SF6 killed fighting games. There's nothing positive about this game.
>>735064893Fighting games won’t ever be killed because +R and 3S exist
>>735064938No company support behind the game = small playerbase = dead game
>>735064893idk the custom characters are lulzworthy
>>735064982Chartfags get the rope
>>735065019>Games allow you to customize characters>Women spend hours making the ultimate beauty>Men just make shit like thisThis NEVER happens!
>>735065065fighting games need a playerbase doe
when you guys made a career out of pretending to play the "good" games that's when the supposed bad games took overit's really your fault in the endnow go and pose with that turd strike cred or whatever snk game you pretend to play
>>735065252Well SF6 got your playerbase covered, I hope that was worth it
>>735065386Retard
>>735065386>pretending to playgood morning sar. newfag sar hello
>>735064893I'm only upset about how the most popular fighting game is also the ugliest of them.
>>735065252Not really. Been playing super turbo on GGPO/Fightcade for almost two decades now.
>>735065602I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people praise the visuals in that piece of shit.I know there will always be people with shit taste but holy fuck.
>>735065671Capcom has a paid shill department. This is not an exaggeration.
>>735064938>white guy votes for biden
>>735064893i wonder how much more successful the game would've been if they didn't force everyone to listen to an obnoxious remix of the TMNT theme on loop in the multiplayer lobby for several months shortly after launch
>>735064893trvth nvke
>>735064893
>>735065928Its bunch of Indians posting to the tune of $0.05cents.
>>735065928Japanese games behind an american brand like SONY and requiem had shill campaigns behind them.These games are also dead as fuck in the west. Only gullible people fall for it ((((((((((((((gullible people)))))))))))))))))) niggers
>>735064893I called a lot of this before the game came out. The writing was all over the wall when they hid the monetization scheme and the fact that 4 of the leaked characters were being held back to sell as DLC until like 3 weeks before launch. They astroturfed the shit outta this game to sell microtransactions and now that those are slowing down they're trying to monetize other shit, like making Capcom Cup a PPV event. They just keep wringing these suckers tighter and tighter trying to get the last drops of cash outta them.
>>735066078I believe it.Indians made a lot of the shitty models in the game, didn't they? Makes sense they would get angry when you criticize them.
>>735066182>They just keep wringing these suckers tighter and tighter trying to get the last drops of cash outta them.Black people are not people.
>>735065928the NowIHateCapcom threads were fun
>>735065586"pretending to play" is not incorrect grammar at alli know it's weird when it's given complexity by using a gerund phrase, something you should have learned in your middle school english class, but i guess you either skipped it or didn't get there yet
>>735066383>sar thinks i'm talking about grammarrofl you have no idea how dead the sf6 community (fgc in general) is you stupid dumbfuck jeetSf6 feels performative at this point "yeah bruh i totally fucking play fighitn games bruh". We had tournaments of 100+ people for SFIV and constant weekly under night / melty threads. Go away, kill yourself and never come back.
>>735066427>rofl you have no idea how dead the sf6 community (fgc in general) is you stupid dumbfuck jeetohi never even quantified the degree of how alive the sf6 community (fgc in general, allegedly) isi just said that you posers caused the initial mess, and i stand by that statement
>>735066182>ban all the fun commentators>ban all thuggery>ban infiltration>all in on esports>all in on men in dragnever a more deserved fate. what a raped franchise
>>735066508The only posers are sf6 shit eaters.
>>735066565lol why, because they pretend to play fighting games? oh wait, i thought that community was supposedly dead, so i guess sf6 is like, schrodinger fighter 6guess you can still pose in the grave like the undercarder mmmm pure green slimes
genuinely never seen a SF game create this little buzz.nobody making content for it anymore. basically no community highlights.nobody even talking about capcom cup because they raped it with the ppv.big patch tomorrow but nobody seems to care because nothing will change.everybody was told to hold back criticism when it launched and this is the result. people just stop giving a shit.
>>735066628Yeah sf6 players are mostly performative. They don't like fighting games, they can't play fighting games they are only able to somehow manage with the dumbest most casual one that's basically a coinflip. They don't like fighting games, they don't like street fighter, they just like sf6.It's like those niggers that keep fifa afloat because they buy the new slop cards and players every single year. The dumbest most performative gorillas to ever live.
>>735066715so they're pretty much in line with the posers i talked about with other gamesso i'm not even that far off, but you're just angry about sf6 taking the spotlightsour grapes aren't just a shoe factory in brazil
>>735064893Get fucked boomers, I'm having a blast
It's not the game in itself, it's the fact that it is the best game out right now. Now that is a grim prospect.
>>735064893Ryu looks like a Nortubel character
>>735066647The game is performative. You can't really talk about the games because they are so linear it's always the same. >>735066765Like this indian. Notice how it's cpu vs cpu
>>735066782>it is the best game out right nowLMAO
>>735066647>they raped it with the ppvcrapcom is completely out of touch with their western audiencejaps are cattle so them being fleeced is a complete given, but the people who watch fighting games here weren't even willing to shell out $8.95 for Canada Cup
>>735066810That is very literally not even his screenshot, it's from... Gamespot? Not sure what that G stands for.
>>735066820Tekken 8 is the sameGrandblue is the sameStrive is the sameCity of Wolves is the sameAll of them are extremely aggressive, easy to play with baby combos that do 50%-70% coin flip games. SF6 is the best modern fighting game but it doesn't mean anything.
>>735066647>basically no community highlightsWhat is there to highlight when all of the gameplay is driverush and throw loops? SF6 removes all neutral to simplify the game down to a tree diagram of coin flips, making it the most accessible, most successful and least interesting fighting game of all time
>>735066905>[Modern Fighting Games] all suffer from the same cancerous design failingWell done anon you've cracked the code. Less so for CotW though, that deserves more credit
>>735064893The drive gauge mechanic genuinely killed anything fun there was about street fighter. Every SF6 game plays out the same way. It's a damn snoozefest.
>>735066961>Less so for CotW>chain 4 ex moves>50% of your life is now gone
>>735067007The only people who complain more about how combos are structured than how neutral and oki are structured are training room 'players'. I bet you complained about "medium medium special" too
>>735067062I like fighting games with execution and i'm not a training room player. Problem? It gives them flavor.The only ones that cry bitch and moan about fighting games having mechanics are retards that can't play them.
>>735066905Literally every single game you mentioned is better than Dix. Having actual music and non vomit inducing visuals alone makes them all better.
>>735066203Same shit happens to snoyfag games which are made for Chinese audience by Chinese (Exp 33 even though they literally stole assets and used AI slop to make the game and tried to call it peak in an uninspired way of paid advertisement trolling etc.) Or Wukong; Its just more blatant for some games especially if China is involved directly. Neo-Cons and Cultural Imperialism is boring af.
>>735067142>the not-vomit inducing musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leLHAnDuOVsjust kidding i love tekken music, 10/10 ost every single time
Tekken 8 season 3 will save fighting games.
>>735067343if the genre needs to be saved with every single game that comes out, maybe it deserves to die
>>735064982how do you think games got players before the ps4 released dumbass. >>735064938true. but would rather smear shit in my sanwas than play 3s or groomer gear. >>735065656>2x my nigga.
>>735067430it needs to be torched to the ground first.Im convinced thats the only way forward.
>>735067529Faggot
>>735067569you are either a pedo or a zoomer depending what part of that got you mad. either way fuck off.
>>735064893the ugly artstyle and the safehorny shit killed it
>>735067667OK faggot
>>735067343No the fuck it won't. Tekken is for the niggers now. Harada sold out to the kikes on 7, you think tek 8 is anything but goy slop? Get your head back in the trough goy cattle and keep consuming. Opinions are for us non niggers
>>735067884This was pretty good but I think you can fit even more buzzwords in there if you try. Give it another shot.
>>735067884>Harada sold out He wanted to leave the company and the project since Tekken 7 for a reason, Harada is a samurai not a kike dicksucker.
>>735065671The game can look good in certain stages with certain lighting. Plus the animation is mostly solid so it sells the visuals, helps when playing not just watching videos
>>735067959Your kike worshipper harada bent the knee to the shareholders causing dogshit predatory monetization starting at t7 and getting worse in t8. Your fucking "Samurai" is a hack. T8 dlc is mostly characters they didn't port in from t7 and resold to your ass. Does the goy rebuy characters while sucking off his samurai?
>>735064893>everyone plays it>they kinda like it>nobody really loves itWhat causes this.
>>735067343Kinda agree.
>>73506792ill do better next time
>>735068361many are just attached to their scenes/the franchise.it was hard for me to give up on street fighter too as I was doing community work like commentary but 6 is just too ass.>>735068208I think the animations are abysmal. Both just stylistically but also when it comes to readability.
>>735068304He said it back in the Tekken Tag 2 days "if i was given the choice of including paid DLC or quit Namco, i would maybe quit"https://www.eurogamer.net/mr-tekken-behind-the-shades-of-the-franchise-chiefAnd guess who wasn't the head director of tekken 7? Dude wanted out, probably wasn't able to quit until they found another director for Tekken but he kept his promise. Don't mix him with the Capcom/Sony/BAMCO kike dicksuckers. My man is a samurai just like his bro Cookieman
>>735068361Bandwagoning and brand loyalty. No one actually likes it.
>>735068506he's been talking about quitting around T7 too.
>>735064893It's fun even if I suckAlso many of the characters make my dick hard
>>735068551He was already off-hands with the tekken 7 project. The oldguard will never be friends of the jew.
>>735064893Not street fighters fault Tekken kicked itself in its own nuts
>>735066647it is a spiritually dead game in the west
4 year of seething
>>735068496>>735068208There's a weird group of normies who get upset when they see held poses or hitstop and their idea of "good animation work" is just continuous movement of any kind. They have no eye for stylised body positions or the sense of weight and impact they just want things to keep flailing around. These are the people who buy mortal kombat.A lot of SF6's animation work just looks like shitty western mocap
JAB JAB JAB _____ _____
>>735068879...wok bak?
>>735068813they are the same type of subhumans who will watch 60fps AI upscales of anime and think thats better.
>>735068813jeet hands made this game
you know a game is good when it mindbreaks people like this
>>735068813jeet hands made this game bruh
>>735064893I don't understand why everyone got so mad at the top tiers in this game, they aren't even that far ahead of the mid-tiers.
>>735069025>>735069107Excuse me? They are NIHONJIN and we will die for japan.
>>735068813annoys me greatly that they changed blanka from beast man to literally just a gorilla.
>>735068496>I think the animations are abysmal. Both just stylistically but also when it comes to readability.You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Not really a fan of realistic graphics that SF6 is trying to go for. Ryu, Mai and Cammy look great in it though.But I prefer a more anime artstyle, similar to how Arcsystem do it.
>>735069331lol
>>735068813>nigger intentionally leaving out this is Blanka's burnout walking animation, all of which look awkward on purposeThis is why nobody engages you and your shitty threads. Everyone can tell you're disingenuous faggot.
He looks shit so the fuck is your point?
Niggas here are scrubs and hide behind the screen.Fightcade is right there.
>>735064893fighting games has always been nigger slop
>>735069450I dont think you are qualified to talk about this topic.The animation style does not change in burnout.
on the topic of burnout:that shit looks fucking terrible too. making it so that characters loser their color for a significant chunk of every round just looks terrible.game is an aesthetic nightmare.
>>735069501i look like that and i say that but i'm a purple parrot
>>735064893Nah it's the gamers themselves. FGC is the whiniest, most autistic fanbase and they took over SF because Capcom allows them to min-max the game through buffs and nerfs.
>>735069450>>735069331Say the line Sajam
>>735069508Okay, so what are your credentials? Please post them.
>>735069635for one I can tell that the animation pacing is exactly the same in burnout as with a full drive bar.
OP is an actual jobless schizo who has to be driven out of EU hubs regularly.Don't make me doxxx you.
>>735069501>games where dp motions actually expect you to do end on df instead of the shortcutmiserable experience.
>>735069535They could've just the stance and the sparkles around the characters but nope, need one more unnecessary visual of an obvious and easy to see state.
Marvel vs. Capcom 4 waiting room.Pick up your tickets.
>>735069730>miserable experience.This is why SF6 players are just performative retards. They don't want to play fighting games, they want to pretend that they are playing fighting games, they are so "hardcore" and totally playing fighting games, that's why they need easy input commands and macros in babby fighter 6
You shouldn't have accepted sfvShouldn't have acted like the game was fixed in 2018Now the whole genre is fucked
Avatar and Invincible are the only hope left if Mori isn't making BlazBlue 6.
>>735069851>t. hasn't played a fighting game seriously since SFIV but pretends he could totally beat everyone at EVO but chooses not to
>>735069706meds
>>735069882you retard SF6 is specifically the opposite of SFV.people right now wish the game was being handled like 5. but you are getting fuck all instead.
>>735069915Capcom finest warrior
>>735069775*picked*
>>735069882you should have PLAYED SFVyou were too easily influenced by scrub youtube essayists and didn't invest in the best fighting game in decadesyou should have acknowledged the objective superiority of SFV's gameplay patches which fixed every problem that the genre now suffers fromyour arrogance led to Strive, your arrogance led to SF6, you have doomed us all
What bothers me about the FGC is that it has given rise to chronically online, mentally ill retards who do nothing but hurl shit at current day fighting games. These people don't play anything, they don't have passion for anything other than posturing.
>>735069995Try that in English, ESL.
Build a time machine and stop pic from happening
>>735070706Why do they have such terrible taste? Japs are such fucking sheep. Just because it's a japanese game, they flock around to suck it.
>>735070706It started when japan lost the world war II and got two cities nuked. They obey Israel (america), Their children were indoctrinated and they now hold positions of power, they constantly try to erase what the old guard did (replacing chun and ryu with chimperly and jamie) and they love gaijins.Enjoy your indian fighter 6, retard.>>735070162You are using ChatGPT aren't you pajeet?
hop on fightcade right nowi will rape you niggaz
>>735064893>Top selling, critically acclaimed fighting game killed fighting gamesNo you just have a good product for the first time in three decades and don't know what to do with it.Or you just don't like the system. And that's fine.
>>735067007man in newer games whiffing a throw is a guaranteed fuck you jej,in older games like 3s specially in some matchups, like yang vs urien, for urien whiffing a throw can also be a trap, because of how big his throw range is, my friend would whiff a throw and do an os parry, the if i fail to react on time he gets parry and i get reverse fucked,also another thing when playing new fatal fury was, how even the far reaching normals are cancelable in, in old games like kof 2002, thats one of the big problem, no far reaching normals are cancellable and all cancellable normals have shit range, so combos are general full punish stray hits/whiff punishes hardly lead to anything,in old garou too, when pressuring your opponent one thing is always on your mind is, if you short hop put you in appropriate distance for hitting cancellable normal, and if not what should you do, etc, that thing is not even a concern in new fatal fury, at least the chars i tried like terry, vox
>>735070131SF6 is dogshit
>>735070131They got into SF4, watched a bunch of YouTube content on it. Decided 3rd strike is their favourite game but never play it. Now they just shit up this board. All the while 15/16 year olds who are younger than SF4 are coming up in the pro scene and competing for millions. This place is like a depressing retirement home for out of touch millennials when it comes to this.
>>735071149in cotw conversions are mostly still off mostly shorter buttons but its absolutely a modern trend to allow people to access big damage from far options.that has many negative effects on how the games are being played. as an example it devalues pokes that do not lead to combos.then there's shit like massive whiff punish screen freezes that both sf6 and cotw have that let you dash in after and lead into your biggest combo.its part of what makes the genre so stupid now. everything leads to your maximum damage combo.
>>735071380children winning is in fact not a good thing and just a sign of the game being dumbed down.
>>735064893I'm just glad it mindbroke jivers
>>735071437where are all the epic 09ers enjoying it?
how dare you start with 2 , 3 or 4? You only think SF6 is dogshit cause you played the good ones, SF6 is good actually.
>>735071149>also another thing when playing new fatal fury was, how even the far reaching normals are cancelableThis is not as bad as the new industry normal which is for far reaching normals to be cancellable into a dash which leaves you plus point blank, or for far reaching normals to be advancing plus on block moves that leave you in range for mixups
>>735071419Daigo and Justin were prodigies at some point too, you fucking retard.
>>735071584when daigo and justin started fighting games were literally new and there was no legacy competition you disingenuous shiteater.
>>735071623>d-doesnt countFaggot
are sf6 drones trying to hype up the newest prodigy of the week again?fucking lmao.capcom cup was won by some fortnite player who just played fighters for a year. SF6 is a disgrace.
>>735071406this kind of thing is also kind of taking away attention from any anime games too, this thing about leading to big combos from small wins was an anime fighter thing,i can really understand the frustration desu, its not that sf6 is bad,but all games are kind of melty blood type lumina in disguisethere actually is no equivalent of old street fighter,in older fighters whiff punishing too was kind of a character trait, not all chars get anything much from whiff punishing, yet its seen as the most important skill, chars like urien only get like c.mk but they have other fun stuff, like throw leading to ton more dmg and mixups, and there are characters that get lot out of small whiff punishes too like chun/ken yang etc
>>735066820honest questionhow is a top 0.1% player not reacting to a raw DI? isn't that 25 frames?
>>735071584They were prodigies in an era where nobody had decades of experience because the genre hadn't existed for decades. Daigo beating people at 15yo when he has 2 years of experience and his opponent has 2 years of experience is not the same as SF6 kids beating people with 2 years of experience when their opponents have 35 years of experience. In SF6 everybody gets to roll the dice
If a new """""""""""prodigy""""""""" wins a tournament every single time then they are not real prodigies.
>>735071684Stop treating young people like retards. There's nothing stopping a young man to kick everyone's ass at sf2 or 3. The only ones with this cuck mom mentality are sf6 shit eaters that have something to gain from those young retards that unironically believe that they can win a tournament. SF6 is a casino and the house always wins.
>>735070131Completely agreedIt's especially disingenuous when you see the exact same points regurgitated over and overMind you I think SF6 is fucked in several fundamental aspects, but I can voice my own opinion instead of regurgitating what I've heard online
>>735067884gayest post of the daytry fitting in harder
>20 year veteran player wins>LESGOOOO THE GOAT FUCKING APOLOGIZE AND KNEEL!!!!>1 year player came from Valorant wins>Wtf he won? This game's a joke. Fighting games are too fucking easy now.Wew
>>735071757but young people ARE retards
What's this weird idea that "playing random" is something new whatsoever? There have always been characters who rely on mix-ups as well as players who do well by doing unexpected shit. Daigo is famous for his shoryruken reads and I've seen him fuck up just as many as I've seen him land.
>>735071814>1 year player came from Valorant wins>different 1 year player from WoW wins next time>another 1 year player from Wii Sports wins season 3When do you acknowledge that this reflects poorly on the game?
>>735071948I'll think about that once it actually happens, retard.
>>735071991we're already on our fourth (fifth?) teenage "prodigy"
>>735071907No they are not>Able to compete with the veterans in : Csgo, Dota, starcraft, valorant, etc.It's a black retard youth problem , people like punk don't have the intelligence required to play a real fighting games. Sad honestly.
>>735072014Yeah, it's impossible for young players to be actually good. SF6 didn't manage to become popular among a younger crowd - something that hasn't happened since SF2. It is also impossible for skills like reactions or the general ability to learn to carry over. Tourneys should forever be fought among the never-changing pool of 12 players or else the game is trash.
>>735071682Mental stack, Ken has several options to pressure on JP's wakeup, and even in that webm he's still throwing Meaty Fireball to beat Amnesia/SA1Without context it's impossible to know if he used meaty DI previously, so it could be completely unexpectedIt's also not that good of an option, JP can DI back and kill him, or even without drive he can regular Amnesia, so you might think "my opponent is good, there's no way he's going to do something really stupid and scrubby that could get him killed", and that makes it even more unexpectedCompletely personal opinion as well but I think DI is not that clear to make out, it's 26f startup but you probably only start to discern if it's a DI after 10f, the start of the VFX is small and the sound swells up at the startI also think having to counter with a dedicated specific mechanic fucks up some people, I have an easier time reacting with Parry than DI personally
>>735072024>don't have the intelligence required to play a real fighting gamesHighlighted without any additional comment.
>>735072014We're on to pre-teen prodigies now.
>>735071757>it's just random, bro>the same few people just happen to win most tournaments
You know what's funny? FGC is salty at the guy who won $1m on SF6 because he retired. They think it's his duty to keep playing because he got $1m. What a fuck up community. Now they want a more equitable distribution of the prizes.
>>735064893it's also ugly as fucking shit
>>735072097OR the game is so basic that within a couple of years of active play everyone with any potential is on a similar level of play and you're all just fucking gambling, in a genre where this has never traditionally been the case
>>735065019Yeah, if you have the mentality of an 11 year old fucking retard.
>>735072235see >>735072189
>>735072189>>the same few people just happen to win mostThat's not a thing in sf6. That's why they started to do invitationals now.I have no doubts that players like Leshar are actual prodigies that can easily go toe to toe with the oldguard in a real fighting game but 90% of the newfags that play sf6 are shit, legit dogshit players like punk.
>>735072189
>>735072189>the same few people just happen to win most tournamentsfor a spectator you're pretty shit at following a conversation
>>735072235Then why don't you win Capcom Cup next? Surely you wouldn't pass on the chance to win a million bucks at playing such an easy game where casuals can win against pros, right?Or maybe you are not being completely honest here.
>>735072305Genetically inferior men should be barred from achieving anything in life.I do not mean asian men.Manlets and weaklings shouldn't have human rights.
>>735064893>character doesn't appear in sequel>have to customize them into other games
>>735072380low tier god...
>>735072353>Then why don't YOU win at roulette nextI'll get right on it
>>735072380He's not a manlet, he's a child.
>>735072330Right back at you.To be invited to Capcom Cup, you had to accumulate a certain amount of points. Which implies consistency. You also had to go through the elimination process. Which also implies consistency. But that doesn't count, right?
SF6 cant be the face of fighting games when a Fortnite kid who only played for a year wins the most prestigious SF tournament.T8 is going through a crisis right nowMK1 has no worldwide appeal and is ironically harder to play than SF6 but its too causalGGSLGBT+ is too gay and anime
>>735072303>That's not a thing in sf6.It is though.The top players are consistently the ones who win the major tournaments.People say "Who!?!?" when Sahara won UFA, and then people who weren't paying attention to him winning the two largest World Warrior tournaments proceeded to then again go "Who!?!?!" when Sahara won Capcom Cup.Unfortunately old people have dementia, so they can't keep track of the modern scene.If 90 year old potential player doesn't win, then It's not legit.
>>735072428At least roulette doesn't force you to embarrass yourself and perform a DP motion lmao skillet
>>735065068ywnbaw
>>735072527see >>735072525>SF6 cant be the face of fighting games when a Fortnite kid who only played for a year wins the most prestigious SF tournament.
>>735064893Ryu being very attractive is a positive thing
>>735072557It's only a video game. It ain't that deep.
>>735072497Consistent players like UMA
>>735072591UMA ISSA PRODIGY YOU SIMPLY DONT UNDERSTAND SF6
reminder that sf6 players can't do a shoryuken if the input ends in down right or down left.
>>735072671>09er cope
>>735072557He's played for like 3 years, he only started competing professionally the past year, but he's been groomed by Japanese pros for multiple years.He also won three major tournaments the past year, two of them having the largest amount of entrants for a fighting game tournament ever at the time due to how massive this game is in Japan.He was so successful this past season that he cock-blocked multiple Japanese pros from getting into Capcom Cup because he was eating up points he didn't need for Capcom Cup qualification since he had already won a premier.Just because you're uninformed doesn't make it random.Anyone who knew anything knew Sahara had a shot at the milly.
>>735072671Tokido and Daigo can't do a shoryuken input? Interesting.
>>735072671>reminder that sf6 players can't do a shoryuken if the input ends in down right or down left.Considering the input leniency of SF6 actually requires you to end in down right/down left otherwise you'll get a double qcf from crouching, SF6 players should actually be MORE adept at ending in down left or down right.You would know that if you actually played fighting games though.
>>735064893Foot content
>>735072486It's funny how players like Kilzyou and Sahara have more high level consistency than the likes of Momochi or especially Daigo, but the former two playing in Grand Finals means the game's random, but the latter two playing in Grand Finals would mean the game's based.Make it make sense to me.
>>735072823but youtube told me diego's the best player ever so it means the game's broken if he's not the best
>>735064893SF6 is the only good fighting game.
>>735072823its the SF4 dementia, it was indeed fun watching those guys play but they are kinda busted now.
>>735072189>>the same few people just happen to win most tournamentsSF6 tournament results have been much more volatile than previous games.2015 Premiers (last year of SF4)-17 unique players in top 2 out of 32 possible (53%)2019 Premiers (last real year of SF5)-16 unique players in top 2 out of 28 possible (57%)2025 Premiers (SF6)-14 unique players in top 2 out of 18 possible (78%)
>>735072823>>735072912>>735072863Literally no one says that. You are now making shit up to defend random results. Daigo wasn't even the best SFIV player
>>735072912>two new Street Fighter games from now, the same people will be in here, no achievements to show for other than endlessly shilling SFIV and 3S (games they were never even good at), creating AI images as shitposting fuel against the current Street Fighter gameTruly, a fate worse than death.
>>735072823>Kilzyou >high level consistencyhahahaha what??
>>735072912I'd say Momochi and Tokido are still good, just they should always be considered underdogs when it comes to getting top spot, but when they're locked in they're a shoe-in for top 16 of any major.Daigo is of course washed and an alcoholic and 9 times out of 10 will drown in pools.But all the players who consistently actually have a top spot are all below 25 other than Fuudo.He's the only player from that era who is somehow still a real force to be reckoned with.
>>735072978better than a braindead nigger defending a dogshit product.
>>735067343I wish i liked tekken. 3d fighters never clicked with me.
>high level consistency
>>735072945Smaller player pools.
>>735072990>more high level consistency than the likes of Momochi or especially DaigoLearn to fucking read.Here's "The Beast"'s 2025 results btw
>>735072189they arent though
>>735073039>1st place>1st place>top 12>1st place>1st place>top 8>1st place>Not consistent?????????????????????????????????
>>735073015Nobody here mentioned SFV.
Why is the newfag so obsessed with daigo? sf6 babbies actually have SFIV derangement syndrome, that's so fucking cute lmao
>>735073039>mostly in 1st>not consistent Retard bro I..
>>735072197two capcom cup champs back to back retired right after.this is also damning for the game.and the prize money distribution is garbage because capcom are too cheap. they insist on using the million as a marketing tool but half ass everything around that. such spreads are not normal.
>>735073039>>735072990lmao nice self-own
>>735073057Who gives a shit about 2026 Daigo? If you want to know what consistency means look at SF4 Daigo or 2017 Punk. This is the first game in history where winning twice a year makes you a legend.
>>735072353>Then why don't you win Capcom Cup next?same reason I dont play the lottery.
>>735073174You're too poor, got it.
>>735073096>>735073130>>735073162World Warriors are glorified locals, dipshits.
>>735073168Harder gameMore competitionBetter life conditionsDaigo was such a beast that he lives free in the minds of sf6 niggers. NO sf6 player will ever be Daigo, because SF6 is shit, they cucked themselves into mediocrity.
>stumbled on youtube streamers still playing SF2 Champion Edition I enjoy watching them more than SF6. These are my people (~40-year-olds).
>>735072823>kilzyou>high level consistencyLMAO
>>735073214>09ers hold the belief that SF6 is a random game where anyone could beat Daigo and that no SF6 player could ever beat Daigo simultaneouslySF6 derangement syndrome
>>735073206Cope
>>735073168Much easier to be consistent when you have less competition.Street Fighter has never seen this much competition before, ever.Sahara is consistently winning a tournament in which there are 1000+ entrants and the format is FT2That is EXTREMELY high levels of consistency. In Daigo and Punk's prime they might be able to do it, but they themselves would readily admit that's EXTREMELY difficult to do given how inherently volatile FT2s are.>>735073206Japan's world warriors get literally thousands of entrants and Japan's scene is the most stacked in the world, hence why they had the most Capcom Cup reps in top 16
>>735073202why yes, its why the lottery is commonly referred to as the "rich tax".
>>735066970Don't pretend you play against JP/Ryu/Deejay/Mai/Gief/Honda the same way.
>>735073287quote a single person, autistic retard.
modern fighting games are so shit.
>>735073297>Street Fighter has never seen this much competition before, ever.Wrong. Fighting Games are borderline dead with the only active one being sf6 in japan. Even sf2 had more competition that sf6.
>>735073310you do though. they literally all turn green.
>>735073351>Even sf2 had more competition that sf6.Lmao retard
>>735073316I did quote an autistic retard (You).
literal who fortnite players are stealing capcom cup wins in the welfare cup while capcom directly shits into fans mouths by charging money for it and you still have actual subhumans here defending it.
capcultists are insane, everything associated with SF6 is a net negative
>>735073351>Even sf2 had more competition that sf6.My man lives in a different plane of reality.
>>735068378>>735067343>beautiful in official artwork and renders outside of game>in-game model always off and weird in some wayhow do they mess her up every time for 20 years
>>735073365It did.
>>735073419Prove it.
>>735073419Sold more =/= more competition.
>>735073438It came to me in a dream.
>>735073223This and the Chinese and Mexican players still streaming old KOF games will keep fighting games alive
>>735073438https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J0lDzqLeaMArena Kokugikana full capacity of 11,000 to 13,000 people>>735073450Oh yeah it also sold a shit ton more than shit 6.Truth hurts. Can't wait to see how you fit Daigo into this argument retard.
>>735073297More entrants doesn't mean randos win tournaments, if anything it should mean the randos get filtered better. How many random unknowns win major tournaments in LoL or Valorant and then immediately fall off the map?
>>735073501That's a single tournament. How many were actually attending? How many were participating regularly? What is the median?
So uhh for those who aren't in a dooming phase, anyone waiting for alex tomorrow? Can't wait to go back to world tour which I acutally play to play alex's mission. After world tour imma do combo trials and then go ranked for placement rank :)
>>735073520>daigo is the best player ever according to youtube>daigo can't win a round in valorant >this means valorant is bad
it gave me my new main.but modern control users (or miggers as I like to call them) can go fuck themselves
>>735073501That says nothing about participation.SFV had the Mandalay Bay packed for events, does that mean SFV is the most competitive Street Fighter of all-time?
It really is incredible how bad SF6 feels and how hideously ugly it is.We really thought we had it bad with SF5We were so naive
>>735073620SFV is an infinitely uglier game than SF6, both visually and mechanically.
>>735073558>IT DOESN'T COUNTsf6 evo can barely fit 1/4th of the Arena that they rent in las vegas. SF6 brought more youtube viewers though, the numbers that it constantly gets are extremely fucking high and extremely sus. SF6 is the online warrior youtube game of preference, not IV, not 3s not II.
>>735073297>Japan's world warriors 34 different people out of 40 total possible got a top 8 in a japanese world warrior.Name literally any other game, fighting or otherwise, where you could run 5 tournaments in the same year with the same player field and have that happen.
>>735073620counterpoint: sf6's crouching mk can actually hit things instead of constantly whiffing.
>>735073603Actually it says 7000 entries 24 seconds in
>>735073520The point is more randos means more volatility which means more potential for you to drown earlier on.Being able to weather a 2000+ entrant tournament that's FT2 and do it multiple times is insanely consistent.
>>735073726>7000 entriesKeyword entries, not registered online numbers..
>>735073567I wasn't really looking forwards to Alex but the rework made me curious enoughI think he'll probably be mediocre thoughAlso the patch leaks seem kinda underwhelming, the only cool thing for me is Aki getting 2LP into 5LP chain cancels
>>735073646Sure, if you lack eyes and ears.SFV had ugly ape models but SF6 has slick and slimy ape models with a thousand years of dust wafting off every pore every second they move
>>735073410Japanese SF2 tournaments in the 90s had an order of magnitude more participants than the biggest SF6 tournaments. Comparing SF6 to SF2 is like comparing it to CS2. In fact SF2 was as far beyond CS2 as CS2 is beyond SF6.
>>735073748>Being able to weather a 2000+ entrant tournament that's FT2 and do it multiple times is insanely consistent.Yeah because SFIV/3S players were that good and the games had a high skill-ceiling. Shame that the same can't be said about 6
>>735073690it literally doesn't count because it doesn't address the point of SF2 being more competitive. Being able to cram in more people inside an arena doesn't tell us how many people actually competed, how many actually stuck with the game for a longer period of time. You know, actual metrics how to measure competition.I take it that's all you have?
>>735065928Cap+cuck is still spam filtered showing they pay to shill here
>>7350737823D SF was always ugly as fuck, SF4 with those big ass foots and hands was ugly too, just the face was better since it was more cartoony.
>>735073704>Name literally any other game, fighting or otherwise, where you could run 5 tournaments in the same year with the same player field and have that happen.Name literally any other fighting game that has 1000+ entrants every time it runs a tournament.Your uninformed ass also missed Kincho/Kintyo.He changed his name, which if you knew shit about SF6's competitive scene and weren't spouting at the mouth you'd know.Virtually all of those names are known quantities, which speaks to how you can be consistent in this game.
>>735073803>Yeah because SFIV/3S players were that good and the games had a high skill-ceiling3S DEFINITELY didn't have 2000+ entrant tournaments, nor did SF4Nice try though.
>>735073748>more randos means more volatility@grok how many thousands of times more tennis players are there in the world than SF6 players?
>>735073581>valorant is badI agree
>>735073818>SF6 good cause it lets shitters like me compete with older chadsSF2 is when everyone started>ACTUALLY IT HHJAS MORE NUMBERS!!!A sf2 tournament had 7000 participants>ERM UH IT DOESNT CAUNT BECAUSIE?!??!! ITS NOT COMPETITIVE ENOUGH OK!>!>!>Embarrassing. You've been proven wrong both statistically and visually. SF6 is a dogshit game and people only watch it on youtube cause it's being for something that might be illegal, no way in hell 400k viewers are watching those garbage games.
>>735073885>Can't compare your favorite fighting game to SF6 so you cope by running to real sportsAlmost like they're two completely different things.
>>735072097Jive had a bunch of new players that are actually good, and recurring, unlike dix with some new literally who “prodigy” winning every big tournament
>>735073916Called it, that's all you have. Now sit down and let actual hair-havers talk.
just updated thanks for the alex reminder. can't wait to find out he has some shit gimmick that makes him unplayable and I go back to learning jamie ed and sneed or whoever the poison lady is
>>735073885real sports is money gated, any nerd can lock himself for 12 hours daily playing SF.
>>735073853>Your uninformed ass also missed Kincho/Kintyo.>He changed his name, which if you knew shit about SF6's competitive scene and weren't spouting at the mouth you'd know.Yeah my bad for not keeping up to date on the username changes of *this* absolute god.
>>735073838You're not wrong, but there are degrees.SF4 looked fine. Yes the feet and hands were goofy in screenshots but it looked fine and cartoony in motion.5 and 6 both pushed for "realism" while keeping the fucked up proportions so now everything is heavily uncanny even before you add in the billions of hideous pointless particle effects
>>735067007>put yourself in burnout>nooooooooooo why can he spam attack me>>735070061>SF5 memeSF5 was turbo trash compared to SF4. People unironically defending fight coins and netcode so bad fucking skullgirls made a meme mode to emulate equivalent input lag for it need to get the rope. In fact the netcode alone made SF5 irredeemable trash and 6 is better solely from functioning netcode alone
>>735073919>every single sport, e-sport have constant results>SF6 doesn't>this means that the sports and the e-sports are wrong and SF6 is notYou autistic but in the retarded way, the shitty low IQ way where your mom struggles with you while she tries not to kill herself.
my mods better not stop working after this patch
>>735064893SF5 killed fighting games. SF6 simply failed to resuscitate them.
>>735073971sf2 had more competition, you are arguing against numbers.
>>735073438It sold a fuck load more and was played all over the world. You can see steam charts for 6 where it craters after japan/China time
>>735073919So how does the "more entrants = more randos winning" law apply to *only* street fighter and not any other video game or form of competition?>>735073987A tennis racket's cheaper than a copy of SF6 + DLC and any decent park has tennis courts.
>>735064893SF6 is legitimately a great fighting game and almost everything anyone complains about, especially in its current season, is scrub shit.
>>735074076 sf6 is the scrub shit doe
>>735074060You aren't presenting any numbers except for seats inside an arena.
>>735074072>So how does the "more entrants = more randos winning" law apply to *only* street fighter and not any other video game or form of competition?It applies to fighting games.>A tennis racket's cheaper than a copy of SF6 + DLC and any decent park has tennis courts.You're not revealing yourself as being completely disingenuous. Not surprising, but at least you've made that blatantly clear, given you know there's a much higher cost associated with tennis competition.
>>735065602>>735065671It depends. Most of the issue with the game is that it has aggressive LOD issues while in-match. The high-def models and lighting all look gorgeous, but unless you manually set scaling to 200% on PC, the game looks butt ugly
>>735073916>A sf2 tournament had 7000 participantsAnd each of them had to win a local qualifier to even be there. The total number of actual entrants was probably 10x higher.
>>735073997>Cut out Top 16 at Capcom CupRetard.
>>735074062I'm pulling up Steam charts for SF2 and it's not looking good. That means SF2 failed.
>>735066550>>ban all thuggeryDo you guys hate niggers chimping out or not? Make up your fucking mind.
>>735068813>A lot of SF6's animation work just looks like shitty western mocapthis except Mortal Kombat lmfao
>>735074124>It applies to fighting games.So why only fighting games? Surely it couldn't be becaus looking at literally any other example instantly disproves your retarded cope.
>>735074098No anon, participants means players. The arena is made for 11,000-13,000 people. Not only there are more competitors there are also more spectators >>735074148>And each of them had to win a local qualifier to even be there. The total number of actual entrants was probably 10x higher.That's actually crazy, people don't really understand just how big SF2 was in it's early days, numbers are hard to grasp when you have no attention span.
>>735074148>Uh actually we found 7 thousand more entrants under the couch!
>>735073997>MOKA CUP 1st place>5:2 EGUTOMY GOAT
>>735074161Does the fact that he got top 16 at capcup after getting 193rd at evo help or hurt your claim that this game isn't random as hell?
>>735073690I assure you that if Capcom released 3S on Steam it would pull numbers.
>>735074094You don't know what you're talking about. SF6 is one of the first fighting games in a long time that was actually fairly hard owing to its mental stack despite it being "traditional" (ie no airdashes or anime shenanigans from marvel). The only reason salty scrubs think it's scrubby is because they never got over Drive Impact or are traumatized by season 1 throw loops>BUT MUH GRABwhich has been heavily patched despite being a very strong option in this game.
>>735074240That's like saying "Why are we looking at apples to apples rather than apples to oranges? Surely not because oranges disprove your retarded cope."
>>735074247You didn't prove all of them were participants. You posted a single, isolated instance in a selected region which doesn't prove that competition generally was higher. Sorry, you simply can't into science.
>>735074307They did release 3S on Steam. Surprise, nobody plays it.You niggers are just posers.>inb4 "it was the wrong version" or some other cope
>>735074072>A tennis racket's cheaper than a copy of SF6 + DLC and any decent park has tennis courts.nobody would ever agree with this, also, you cant play tennis for 12 hours.
I honestly prefer the more cartoony artstyles of 3rd Strike and 5, but they did a great job with at least 2 skins per character. Most of the classic costumes came out well.
>>735074253https://youtu.be/smQ_yo1DmeA?t=136Could you please stop coping so I can go do something else?
>>735074391>They did release 3S on SteamLet me guess, it's buried in some shitty collection?
>>735064893>gave cammy pantsTrash game for trash people.
>>735074391nta but I just play 3S on fightcade and 6 on steam
>>735074424>more anecdotes
>>735074324>which has been heavily patched despite being a very strong option in this gameI agree with you on SF6 but throw loops are still cancer. Getting 1 drive gauge for teching it isn't good enough when the downside is getting punish countered and losing half your health bar because you got the 50/50 wrong.
>>735074296Daigo drowned in pools multiple times in EVO for SF4.During his most "consistent year" he drowned in pools
>>735074391>Shit netcodeWhy bother when GGPO has been the ideal way to play for years
>>735074424SF2 created the genre and became a global phenomenonSF6 killed the genre and it's dead as fuck with only the same 2 jeets and nigros defending it non-stopTruth hurts
>>735074391yeah because everyone plays it on fightcade.there's no reason to pick the collections over fightcade, maybe if it had the EX games with good netcode ? but even then...I think the real thing that killed fighting games is Strive, it showed everyone that you can take a long standing fighting game franchise, remove everything people liked about them and it would still sell
>>735074337So in literally every other type of popular serious competition anywhere in the world EXCEPT one specific video game - probably even including shit like professional poker - there is high consistency in top level results, but in this ONE video game suddenly it flips on its head and having more participation suddenly means the top 16 of tournaments may as well be drawn out of a hat.Ok.
>>735074439wow i can't believe they added pants to her classic leotard that was there on release. wow so woke>BUT MUH PAYING FOR ITit's literally free if you play the game for 20 minutes
>>735074530>SF6 killed the genre>Most successful Street Fighter since 2???
>>735074550>probably even including shit like professional pokerremove the probably, poker has more consistent results than sf6.
>>735074324>(ie no airdashes or anime shenanigans from marvel).interesting opinion, now hold this parry that lets me sideswap you into an unfuzziable 50/50 that loops into itself
>>735074571Leave him to his cope, anon. He forgot his meds this morning.
>>735074497Are you literally just making shit up now?https://liquipedia.net/fighters/Daigo_Umehara/Results2015: 9th2014: 49th2013: 7th2012: 5th2011: 4th2010: 1st2009: 1st
>>735074562>cammy in a bikini>no leotard tanthey keep fucking it up
>>735074571As a percentage of people who own a system capable of playing the game SF6 is nothing compared to SF2. Literally everyone who owned a SNES had SF2.
>>735074612NTA but 9th and 49th. Mayhaps learn how to count first. Use your fingers bro i don't judge.
what kills fighting games is the amount of insane retards that will spend their time arguing online over retarded shit instead of playing whatever's their favorite fighting game
>>735074672You're so desperate to not be wrong that you're saying 9th place is pools.
>>735074590>sideswap AA itJP is a check against using your drive resources and reacting to the swap. Yes he's very strong right now, no it doesn't make the game anime.
>>73507467249th isn't "drowning in pools"
From this thread I've learned that fighting games just suck in general and the latest ones are ugly as fuck to top it off. SF6 is easily one of the ugliest games I've ever seen, comparable to Starfield, Tekken 8 isn't far behind.
>>735074672Being in top 50 isn't drowning in polls retard-kun
>>735072197You're a fucking faggot dude, maybe a few fucking tards gave a shit but I heard jackshit from the FGC as a whole when kakeru and Uma quit, why do I get the fucking feeling this thread was made by faggots that dont play fighting games and are simply looking to stir shit up?
>>735074736>>735074767>>735074703>Old-heads are this retardedWhat perhaps does this say?
>>735074690Nah it's sf6 being shit and other fighters following sf6 example because they need to sell the games or the kikeoverlods will send them to the japanese gulag
>>735074804Cope harder
>>735064893I had a lot of fun on World Tour but I'm getting completely bodied online because I suck though, Alex looks really cool at least he should keep me going for a while longer.
>>735073161>two capcom cup champs back to back retired right after.No one plays sf6 because it's fun, they play it to roll the dice.
>>735074829LMAOI accept your concession that you're retarded, old man.
>>735074762There is just some autist that has to cling to a game to hate, it's been happening since SF4 to any fighting game you can think of. My favorite was probably the "T7 is a party game for button mashers"
>>735074839Keep at it man rome wasnt built in a Day, as long as you can take your L's gracefully unlike that faggot Darryl (lowtiergod) you'll get your dubs.
>>735074767>>735074736>Been watching fighting games for 20+ years>Don't know what pools is>Getting publicly embarrassed this badlyMore proof that 09ers are usually posers who have never played a fighting game in their life, let alone competed.They just saw a stream or two on justin.tv and think that makes them an authority.
>>735074854>the game is random>but the guy also won consistentlyWhich one is it?
>>735074893More like there's some autist that has to defend SF6 because it's his favorite.The entire community agrees that it's complete fucking dogshit and that it's results are volatile. But this dude straight up ignores numbers and stats, he's like the ultimate nigger dicksucking lips chimp taking care of his Capcom MASSAThese people are why we don't have high trust societies anymore.
>>735074938Try again, esl-kun.
When I look at SFIV EVOs for some reason the "notable entrants" have about as much variety as your typical local tournament -- no international presence whatsoever.Yet I'm supposed to pretend winning this is on the same level as winning Capcom Cup or EVO in SF6?
>>735074971>The entire community agrees that it's complete fucking dogshitYour friends on discord and Titter are not "the community", jeet-kun.
>>735074929>thinks anything worse than 16th place is "drowning in pools"reactionimage.pdf
Three is no actual argument for why sf6 is good. Every defense of the horseshit mechanics and randomness is some ridiculous fallacy or non sequitur because they like the game and think it's good just because of that. You can like what you want but this is the worst mainstream fighting game ever.
>>735075092>these people are proving my wrong every time, but I won't accept it because I'm retardedAlso, everyone knows the worst modern fighting game right now is Tekken 8.
>>735074725the sideswap is a guarenteed punish if you're not doing a safejump or a safejab, you're not anti-airing shityou cannot run strike/throw on JP in the corner without the threat of being put in the corner into a mix>no it doesn't make the game anime.fucked up reversals are an anime game classicsame with his level 2 giving him borderline unblockable setups and free 50/50salso Drive Rush is basically just a Roman Cancel
>>735075079>nigger doesn't understand how pools, semifinals and finals work>the usual cut-off is the top 8 (now it's top6)no reaction image required, you are black.
>>735073756>93>online numbers
>>735075042Are you seriously trying to use the "notable entrants" section to make a point? Do you think Mike Ross and Marn were major competitive forces in sf4 or might there be some other reason they're "notable"
>>735073567why would I look forward to alex when his gameplay was entirely raped?
>>735075079>Look mom, I got top 64!Sounds way more impressive when you're some scrub from bumfuck Idaho, but that's not something to be proud of when you're supposed to be the GOAT.
>>735075145Nah man that shit goes to fuckin MK, I cant believe NetherRealm Dropped the fuckin ball so hard that MK is now about to head back where its supposed to be.in the fucking dumpsterbin where it fucking belongs.
>>735075191I'm talking about sf6 evo.
>>735073709literal spacing issue.
>>735074919I love LTG rage videos so I have a great example on how not to act while playing fighting games, I also had a 60 loss streak once because I had to do 60 BH cabinet fights and it wasn't that bad, I only got perfected once or twice and even managed to perfect a Mai but I could never win any rounds because skill issue.
>>735075180You're just confirming you have no idea what "drowning in pools" means but please don't let me stop you from making an idiot of yourself.
>>735075195This one pedophile tried to use the number of available seats in an arena as an argument. We're obviously scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
>>735073998>5>pushed for realismretarded
>>735075195My fault, the full bracket looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much betterMy local is more impressive than this.
>>735074003why wouldnt I defend literal free character unlocks?retarded secondary.
>>735075252Pool winners has a nicer ring but you still drowned in pools.
>>735065019>Can’t fight with custom characters onlineWhat was the point?
>>735074324you write like you havent even reached the piss easy master rank yet.
>>735075145Btw this guy is a schizo from /vg/ who defend SF6 daily for years and thinks Tekken is his demon. You can tell when he posts because be brings up tekken 8 and SF5 out of nowhere but thinks he's making sense
>>735075348Hm? Yes you can, they even give you a fuckton of drive tickets every weekend for doing avatar battles.
>>735071682because the game is reaction check hell.nobody is just reaction to the DI but to all the other possible options which is overwhelming.shitters who repeat "just react to le DI" are clueless, use 100% of their brain power on looking for DIs and then get jumped on without anti airing.
>>735075357>You can tell when he posts because be brings up tekken 8 and SF5 out of nowhere but thinks he's making senseI can't believe kekken 8 won
>>735075357his name is nubi and he isnt from vg per se. he has been shitting up fighting game threads before /vg/ even existed in 2011.
>>735072136>I have an easier time reacting with Parry than DI personallyThat's why most pros parry DI instead.
>>735075348You can you just gotta go to the center ring and wait for a challaneger. Theres always dudes organizing custom character nights and shit usually on the weekends. I hear you can actually make a real good Joe Higashi from KOF in the game but for some reason the games singleplayer never loads up whenever I try to play it.
rollback netcode is shit and it skips the first frames of every move. Even a shitter can react to DI offline.
>>735071682Drive Impact is designed to dumb the game down and make it random. You can't just block it normally, you have to text and play Simon says, so Capcom made it just fast enough that you can miss it if your not paying attention. A of that's not enough, it absorbs two hits to make sure you can't poke it twice as part of a safe string because that wishy be random enough. Also it has high range so it didn't need to be spaced (spacing is for fighting games) and if you DO block it, your character stumbles back ten feet to hit the wall. The entire mechanic and every other sf6 mechanic is designed to let you beat Tokido
What's incredible to me now is how, much like many other forms of entertainment, fighting games started receiving some attention during the pandemic and miraculously became somewhat popular again. I suppose MKX and Injustice were relatively popular prior to that as well, but Tekken for instance was fucking dying before an act of God and bat-eaters caused a bunch of nerds such as myself to become nostalgic thinking about playing 3 in arcades and also found themselves having the time to learn the archaic mechanics of an autistic Japanese game.They then took all of that good will, and it takes a lot of good will to play a game where the tutorial costs 5 American, and not only shat on the players by reducing the game to a casino mash-fest for casuals and spectators, but shat on their humanity itself by selling Nike T-shirts and filling up stages of the games with ads for Chipotle. Shills have to be blamed, it's only because of their performative positivity and optimism that people never stopped to think "Hey! Watching a 5 minute throw animation while seeing a commercial for Air Force Ones in the background is satanic rape!". Every ensouled human I know has stopped playing, but not the albeit decreasing millions of Southerners (be them American or Asian) and transsexuals. Things are so bad in fact that even some shills have stopped shilling, and they've sacrificed their integrity and streaming "careers" for a potential collaboration with companies that clearly don't give a shit about them and are thankfully going under.But it's still shocking how fighting games all collectively decided to die at once. Even MK11 was serviceable, and as though to intentionally self sabotage, decided to once again reboot itself and give us fucking ASSISTS at a time where everybody agrees that games are too complicated (in that they have too much going on). I understand that they thought a free combo breaker or combo extender is appealing to the casual. Post too long, whatever
>>735075503>he has been shitting up fighting game threads before /vg/ even existed in 2011.>SFV and SF6 are so dogshit it made someone go crazy
>>735075615SFV and 6 came out way later.
>>735075550>I hear you can actually make a real good Joe Higashi from KOF in the game but for some reason the games singleplayer never loads up whenever I try to play it.They have Wind Hurricane in the game as one of the extra unlockable moves that came with Mai/Terry in World Tour.They have a couple more Fatal Fury/KoF specials that just aren't accessible (yet), there's this cave in Mai's location you get access to after completely a side quest and in there you have a guy who has Kim Kaphwan's divekick, Ryo Sakazaki's fireball super, and a couple of other mothers I'm forgetting.
>>735075654This is why you always alt f4 after getting throw 5 times, your sanity is on the line every time you open dogshit 6
>>735075565evidently you dont know what you are talking about as the best players in the world get raped by it at offline tournaments all the time.
>>735075702sick maybe I'll uninstall the game today and reinstall it intime for Alex drop. I've really wanted to play the single player for a while now.
SF6 won.
>>735075962only if the patch is good
>>735075962alex sooni believe
shit game
>>735076165Legit looks like 2 retards playing for the first time.
>>735076165burnout should be punishing but desu i absolutely hate block loops in it from characters like ryu and terry
>>735076165fighting games should have mechanic where spamming one move hurts the joint and makes that move deal less damage
>>735076319why
>>735076165>+2 on block 6f medium with low pushbackgenuinely what the fuck were they thinking
>>735076165NGL Higuchi was sleepin at the wheel here.
>>735076298>>735076319>>735076343>>735076431This is what happens when you remove links , execution and everything good about fighting games. It becomes a competition for challenged people.
sf6 has plenty of links meowever
>>735076524chaining sagat's stmp more than twice requires a microwalk where you need to return to neutral otherwise you'll get his slow ass overhead
>>735076656if you can buffer them they are not links, you fucking retard. stick to your modern slop
Fighting games have been shit since COVID, it's like they collectively decided to make all games after that extra casualized party mashers full of GaaS garbage
>>735076524This shit would be just as retarded if you had no buffer to do it
>>735076715>Muh bufferSo every fighting game is garbage
>>735073057Daigo is retired retard
>>735076801Modern fighting games are garbage correct.
>>735076954spoken like a true r/kappa
anyone who actually delights with glee when they drive rush at you, has something wrong with them. This game is 100% for people who HATE fighting games but still want to be known for playing them. Every element of classic and normal fighting games is outright removed in SF6 and you are PUNISHED for trying to play it like them. But if you just mashed and couldn't do hard inputs or combos, SF6 feels like you unlocked your superpowers.
SF6 is too ugly, I will wait SF7
Made OP ragepost cause he sucks.Best game.
>>735077034the playerbase plummets during western hours, no one is playing sf6 except for the japanese bugmen and a couple of low iq retarded niggers.
>>735067343game is so bad harada quit
>>735076715>muh 1f puritygo pay your child support
>>735065671I think its the best sf has looked in 3d. The 2d games mog of course.
>>735077251I despise niggers and i never said it had to be a 1f. 3S links are perfect.
People here say that modern fighting games are ass because of some bullshit about drive and legacy skill but as soon you tell them to hop on Fightcade it's a ghosttown.
of course the people defending dogshit 6 are a crazy nigger and a tranny, How fitting.
/v/ is always embarrassing but seeing them talk about fighting games or other skill intensive genres is always a laugh.
>>735064938oh yes the games with fans that have never played the game
>>735064893Green slop is just a bad mechanicAt least the other kuso mechanics from previous games like ultra and vtrigger happened only once per round. In 6 it's like every single interaction
>>735076715absolutely fucking retarded secondary
>>735077506sf6 is dogshit
>>735064893SF5 was so bad, anything else looks like a fix by comparison.
>>735077306>modern fighting games are assI agree modern fighting games are ass
>>735077689I'll bet you struggle with shoryuken motions lmao.
>>735077689This
>>735078358nta but shoryus are hard!
platform fighters have never been better, so i'm okay
>>735078358SF6 was made for retards who cant do DP motions, retard.
ITT: fags coping that SF6 killed their favorite game
SF6 killed SF
>Qatar is the new owner of Evo>A shithole of a country where slavery hasn't been abolished>the shithole hmmm....
>>735079051So you should like it then
>>735066182This is entirely the so-called FGC's fault. This and probably that Japs accept whatever corpos say and don't object. But the reality is that the enshitification of the genre only happens, because people complain about new games, but still want new games. When Tekken 8 shit all over itself all of a sudden everyone went back to Tekken 7... For about a week. Fuckers are still playing 8, complaining, hoping for S3, but they aren't going to get what they want. The scheme now is to constantly keep the players engaged by having stuff broken so they hope it gets fixed, but never keeping them satisfied. They'll keep coming back, hoping, buying the season pass etc. The solution is simple and right in front of everyone - play the games that are good. SFfags won't shut up about 3rd Strike being GOAT, how top-tier the sprites were etc, but they aren't playing it. There's a total of 58 people right now on Fcade.Anyway, it's Monday, work is over so it's a perfect time for some boomers to start the week - I'm having friends over, installed Retroarch on my Thinkpad, hooked it to a big TV, did the full config with god-tier CRT-filters and it's going to Tekken 5, VF4Evo and SC2. Another friend is bringing a second arcade stick.Stop listening to tubers, play the games you like, find a community, or make a community, stop following pro-players. In fact disregard the professional scene altogether - they are all shills with a stake in the business.
>>735080763>>735077306I agree with most of what you're saying, but you can't expect people to competitively play and take seriously a game with no support, no rank system, no coherent practice mode etc.If they relaunched Tek 5 or 3rd Strike, with the same quality of life features in practice mode (and free frame data), good netcode and fair matchmaking (maybe some balance changes on infinites but none of this equalizing bullshit where everybody plays the same), no one would touch t8 or sf6 again. Which is why they won't do it, by the way.You can have a fun time with friends casually dicking around but most people won't invest time and effort into a game which requires more 3rd party software to run
>>735080763You made me check fightcade says 400 players. I'm not even sure if not playing or buying them even matters anymore, city of wolves is dead and it keeps getting DLC and tournaments.
>>735080763I tried that 5 times with 5 different games, but people in my region quite simply do not want to play fighting games. The only game I could make them play was MK11 for like 2 hours and that was it. I wish I could make them - I'd gladly take a new person and just teach him the game if I need to. I'd lose 0-100 games against better players if I need to. But the reality is that the majority of people simply do not want to play fighting games and that's the bottom line. So with that in mind your options are either to accept the FGC for what it is and play with it, or just quit on fighting games altogether. I want to play fighting games, so I really only have one option.
>>735081567>accept the FGCThe FGC is dead
>>735081707Street Fighter 6 killed the FGC and the interest in fighting games.
>>735065928Yep. It's pretty apparent whenever there is a new Resident Evil game.
>>735076472Both of them were. Who the fuck wants to play for 3rd place?Higuchi had to go IMMEDIATELY from getting beaten in semi-finals to having no break and playing Blaz when he was already out of contention for top spot.Stupid-ass format.
>>735064893Why does Ryu wear gloves with the Korean-looking writing (I know what it says) before and after SF3
>>735064938I hate Turd Strike and +R(etards) poseurs so much it's unreal, literally the FGC's version of a hipster kid in the 2000's.
>fighting games after 2000???
>>735082215It annoyed the fuck out of me when fgcucks online claimed they only like 3rd strike #R and VF4 "Evo". They're completely different games, you either really like one or none of them
>>7350823102000 +2 don't forget kof 2002
>>735064893So you play old games with your friends. They don't stop existing just because content creators moved on.
>>735081353>you can't expect people to competitively play and take seriously a game with no support, no rank system, no coherent practice mode etc.>competitively playWhat are they competing for? Cause you know, back in the arcade days, or just summer hilidays, a bunch of friends and this one guy had a PSX so we occupied his flat playing Tekken... It was about who's best, who just beat someone that was better etc. Current day FGs competitive play is just to earn fake internet points. You play 3 sets against some random dude, you've never talked to and then he's gone forever. If you win, did you really beat him? What if it was 5 sets, or 10, will you meet him again? Will he come back stronger? Probably not. And if you lost, will you get a second shot next week? At lest on Fightcade, you have a fucking chat, you have regulars etc...I just played some Tekken 8, haven't touched the game in like 8 months and was never even competent at it to begin with. Played some guy, won the first match, lost the second and did won 3 consecutive rounds in the 3rd. Didn't do anything good, just blocked, used jabs, longest combo was like 4 hits and it was accidental. Used heat like 3 times to end the round because it seemed optimal. They guy had twice the points I had, he knew combos and used heat all the time. Clearly a better player. But I don't think he'll learn from his mistakes when we played and nor will I learn from mine. Imagine this was at an arcade. I would get to know him, have a chance to play more. We both could get a feel for what each of us understands about the game and what we don't know. We'd adapt start using tailored strats and actually play the game, instead of trying to pop heat when convenient, land a huge combo and end the match to rack up points and move on. Online is just stupid, what's the point with how the current ranking system is? People think it's going to give them what? A ticket to Evo?
>>735082215Bro you don't understand i gotta fit in with the crowd instead of being genuine with what i like>>735082581I like both +R and 3rd Strike, though I barely play 3rd StrikeBut that's because I like most fighting gamesI completely disagree on the "best game ever, nothing about either of them is bad" sentiment though
>>735073491I finally understand what SNK was going for with that artstyle.It really does look like a sprite, when viewed in miniature. However, when in full resolution it looks weird and low quality.
I prefer the older sprite based games. And even then I don't play them, I just watch TASs and replays off youtube on occasion.
>>735083632>I prefer the older sprite based games.>I don't play themevery single time lmao
>>735076656Why is the torchlight robot in a fighting game?
>>735083316>I finally understand what SNK was going for with that artstyle.NTA, but I get it and you're right. The problem is though, that they had like GOD-tier art with XIII, which apparently was too expensive, so XIV kinda looked like PS2 game. And I actually liked it. KOFXV and COTW don't look bad, but the art gives me SFV banana-hair Ken vibes. I'd prefer if COTW looked like XIV honestly. And I'd prefer, if they didn't do shitty gimmicks like green-slime armored moves and a fucking shield. Still, probably the most enjoyable modern game for me.
>>735064893You fags really like to complain more than actually playing games.
>>735083632Fucking hell.
>>735066025Based
>>735081759you can blame rollbackpeople playing video games interact because they have to, not because they want to
>>735083907>torchlightBlitzcrank came first.
>>735081353They already have 3rd Strike with matchmaking, no one fucking players it.Same with the other Capcom Collection shit. No one plays them.No one wants to touch old-ass games.I don't get why some people like you are so deluded. The masses are indeed blinded by nostalgia, but not in that way, they want NEW old thing, not actual old thing.
>>735076319Smash has that mechanicCertain anime games have Same Move ProrationAnything else?
>>735076715You're a fucking idiot.If it's not a cancel it's a link.Doesn't matter if it's a 1f link or a 100f link.And lemme get this out of the way tooPresence of a buffer doesn't eliminate the presence of 1f links.
>>735081567I fully understand you. Where I'm from, FGs are still considered something like it was in the early 2000s - you had to have at least on in your library in case friends came over, but nobody treated it seriously. Looking for communities online is also a dead end. But, since I'm and oldfag, I still have oldfag friends who remember the olden days and they enjoy coming over for a match in those old games, because nostalgia or whatever. The thing is, they are getting better and without guides and YT. One dude even bought 2 arcade sticks and he's playing his wife on a regular basis, when the kid is asleep.Now, I am not a charismatic person at all, I am a total failure, when it comes to imprinting my passions on other people and I also have a tough task of mostly being around people who are literal fucking NPCs. But without much effort I've made some minimal-fighting-game-impact on the people I interact with. I think it's not only possible, but also necessary, to get back at building grass-roots communities. I don't have a plan on how to do that, but fuck, there's so many charismatic people playing those games, all that needs to be done IMHO, is to take some initiative and start build a community from the ground up. One that is based around the love of FG and playing for fun and not sucking Capcom's or Bamco's dick to have a shot at that tournament cash.It boils down to one thing, companies who make games, should have a clear message that we don't need them, and if they want to sell their product, it better be real good. Step one is voting with your wallet, step two is being vocal about why you're not boughting, step three is still showing up to enjoy the things you like, to announce that you are still a potential customer.
>r/Kappachino niggertrannies in the threadI'm out
>>735064893>make game rap and black ebonic based>destroys entire genremany such cases. sad!
>>735084002yes, not playing is actually better than playing the current raped fighters.
Patch notes doko?
>>735087164nothing will change
>>735087164its usually drops the moment the servers go down
>>735084002That's the problem, we 'do' play other fighting games, but SF6 monopolized the entire genre.
>>735083632Try playing them maybe?
>>735087940Gooooooooooooood I fucking love Mai
Welcome to modern gaming. Play old games or move on with your life. This goes for the majority of genres. Fighting games simply caught up with the rest of the industry.
>>735088132I concur she is attractive somewhat.
>>735087458im tired of this stupid fucking takeits not capcom's fault that MK1 tekken, COTW, and 2XKO dropped the balllike if all it takes is a fighting game being half-way decent to be a """"""""monopoly"""""""" then the entire genre was always doomed to eventually die
>>735084931honestly, considering the FGC at large and what I read from them mostly here and a little bit from twitter, I don't really thing that it's possible. There have been 5 or 6 attempts (from my POV) to gather people from /sfg/ to play any SF from 2 to 6 and apart from two players playing while a third (strike) watches, there have never been really successful attempts. As if normal people wouldn't scoff at fighting game players in general, but they'll cancel you if they find out you lurk an anime image board. In reality nobody knows that SF6 exists, people don't know what a 4chan is, and nobody cares what you do in your free time.
>>735087458That doesn't make any sense. It having the most players doesn't mean it monopolized anything and everything else making shit games/decisions doesn't mean it monopolized anything when those other game are shit for reasons completely unrelated to sf6. Whether it's the Tekken team being retarded enough add chip damage and anime ass universal installs with zero extra defense options to make the game shittier or arcsys doing whatever the fuck they did with boring ass granblue and mediocre ass strive.
>>735088473>somewhat
>>735083009Well, yeah, like I said, it's fine for dicking around with friends at home or at an arcade, then you'd maybe have a guy come over from another town who knew different combos and techs and frame traps and becomes a local legend, and turns out everybody involved sucks at the game because no one has figured out the difference between sidestep or sidewalks, kbds or so on. Myself, I made a very good friend through tekken and eventually started going on /tekgen/ and making tournaments and lobbies and such, and there was always one guy to beat. Ranked was just practice for new the better guys in our group. But there is always an element of improving or "competing" in any multiplayer game, without the expectation of playing in large tournaments, and your nihilism won't do you any good.Tekken 8 sucks and first to 3 is cancer so I won't even address that or ever bother with the game again.>>735084393>They already have 3rd Strike with matchmaking, no one fucking players it.>Same with the other Capcom Collection shit. No one plays them.Hence, proper relaunch. Capcom Collection has shit netcode, no updated balance, no proper practice mode. Tekken 6 and 5:DR are virtually identical (if not better) graphical-wise if you apply some nice shaders and textures which is enough to get people back in. >The masses are indeed blinded by nostalgia, but not in that way, they want NEW old thing, not actual old thing.This much I've admitted from the start, not sure who you're arguing with. Yes, no infinites and QoL features are needed. But I'd even take those over rage and heat and guest characters shooting flames out of their 3 story tall demon sword
>>735089846Granblue's pretty fun tbf
>>735076656>character just dissapearwhat a low budget trash game
>>735069882SFV is better than Dix in LITERALLY every way except Netcode.>>735069959 is absolutely right, Dix is more or less the exact opposite of SFV and that is why it looks and plays like absolute dogshit.
Never thought the Zelda cycle would affect street fighter.
>>735090314It is
>>735090978Zelda cycle got invalidated when BOTW came out and Skyward Sword was even more buried for the piece of shit that it is.The level of contrarianism you need to attain to pretend SS is good is unreal, I think those people are legit forfeiting their sanity to pretend thinking it's good on the internet.
>>735090978Fuck off cuntOnly tasteless retards disliked SFV when it was the current game, and only even MORE tasteless retards like """Street Fighter""" 6
>>735064893I find it so interesting that these popular video game franchises have all conveniently reached the number 6.>GTA>Far Cry>Elder Scrolls>DOOM>Battlefield>Persona>Halo>Street Fighter>Hitman>MGS>Armored Core>Super Smash Bros>Bloons TDAll announcing the mark of the beast. Revelation 13:17-18 KJVAnd that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Honourable mention:>Resident Evil 9 (upside down 6)>Dying Light The Beast>Final Fantasy 16
>>735066836>they raped it with the ppvhi sajam, you can keep saying this but it's not true, you're old and lost ground buddy. bug people have been paying for ppv video games for decades (starcraft 2) stop being poor
>>735090046>nihilismPlease stop using words you don't know the meaning of. You can scoff at the 'local legend' meme all you want but what you're failing to understand is that the purpose of games is to have fun. Whichever approach you take is ok, but fuck anyone telling anyone there's a proper way to enjoy stuff.>Ranked was just practice for new the better guys in our group.>the difference between sidestep or sidewalks, kbds or so on>look at me, I'm in the inner circle of guys-good-at-the-gameHonestly, I'd care, if you lived around and was someone I actually knew and admired or hated. Which brings me to the the point: what exactly are you trying to argue here, aside from disagreeing on principle and taking the proverbial high ground?>But there is always an element of improving or "competing" in any multiplayer game, without the expectation of playing in large tournamentsWhich is exactly what happens when you play with friends and ignore fagots like you.
>>735066647>big patch tomorrow but nobody seems to care because nothing will change.I mean yeah, why the fuck would I get hyped over a SF6 patchThe game's stale, everything's so held up by system mechanics you can't change anything, and capcom's decisions regarding balance are retardedThere's been no communication over the patch, no sneak peaks, or even just announcements in regards to the direction they want to takeLook at how Arcsys communicates on their upcoming patch, they outright said "We're doing a big change, characters will get nerfed and maybe reworked, also these characters are getting new moves"People know what to expect, and they built trust with season 4 patches that were generally very good
>>735064893theres lots positive about it fagDoesn't mean what you're saying isn't true generally, but you are stupid regardless.
>>735093302We can debate philosophy too you stinking fucking faggot, I was being nice to you. I've never even argued that "there's a proper way to enjoy stuff", though clearly there is. If you want to spend money on an arcade cabinet to look at tekken 3 katas, go nuts, I could give a shit. Evidently you'd be retarded to do so though.>Which brings me to the the point: what exactly are you trying to argue hereGo back and read it idiot. I was listing reasons why practice mode and good online are important for fighting game players. Players! you fucking idiot, not drunk boomers who mash Eddie 4s until the opponent figures out a way to deal with them, thus "improving" according to you >inner circle of guys who are good at the game who know what KBD isAh shit my bad. Good trolling
>>735091238I would bet money you shit on 5 when it was out. I liked 4 5 and 6 for the record. But ill probably give it to 6 in the end because some of my characters weren't super fun in 5.
>>735091045i miss when eustace required an actual brain to play
whats with fighting games being so dumbed down now? I play against people who barely know how to play the game sometimes in ranked and they're still a threat to me because they spend 5 mins in training mode and 1 hit leads to 50% of my health gone and instant corner vortex.These players used to just get rolled over by execution neutral play. now this game exhausting to play because you can never just chill. Anyone can easily beat you if you slip up because there's no execution barrier.
>>735096163You would lose that money.I loved SFV from day 1 because Mika was playable from day 1People would complain about the game looking like "m-muh clay" and I called them out for being retarded; the game remains the best looking 3D Street Fighter to date, and seeing how SF7 is guaranteed to be even uglier and more uncanny than Dix, SFV will remain the best looking 3D SF game.
>>735065602>Uncanny Valley 6 or Fourth of July Fireworks Display 8Choose your sloppa
>>735072263>QUIT HAVING FUNNo
>>735064893trvke
>>735082215Those are just the best fighting games
>>735084393>No one wants to touch old-ass games.you should be skinned alive
I went to /sfg/ and it was probably the gayest general I've ever been in
>>735097896why would you do that to yourself
>>735096293When was that?I don't play Eustace
/sfg/ is laughing at us again...
/sfg/ thinks the horrid golems in their shit game look great and that throw loops are hype, who the fuck cares what they say?
>>735091045KURURI~
>>735100093ATARANAI YO
>>735065928Meat Biter 6
>>735098098The original Granblue he was a true zoner and you had to know how his fireball spacetraps and his actual traps work. He was arguably the hardest character to play in the original game, outside of low-tiers like Vaseraga.Now all you have to do is abuse his ultimate skills to force pressure, which doesn't make him strong, but he's accessible enough for brainlets now.
>>735101310Oh, I thought they had changed something about him in Rising but yeah, your answer makes more sense.
>>735065019>>735065068I just made myself 1:1 and tried cool oufits trough the campaign, loved the game and only used chun-li and ken moves
>>735096925Alex came late, so we'll see if 6 Alex mogs before I make up my mind. I don't mind slime rush as much as some people seem to.
>>735101951Oh no, the SF6 attacked Xiaohais brain.
Riddle me this before the thread dies - why did literally every company stopped trying to make the best Fighting Gaem possible and instead made slop for the braindamaged?
>>735102386Because the casual player (most of the sales of any game) isn't experimented enough to understand the intricacies of a well-balanced fighting game.If it's not flashy and looking fun within seconds, they might not consider buying it.
Hmhmhm gud tred
>>735102386because i graduated high school
>>735103412Congratulations!
