So this thing has a Kart. It has a Kirby, a Donkey Kong and now a Pokémon.But it still has no Mario. 2D or 3D. That's fucking crazy. Mario is the reason you buy a Nintendo.
>>735066532Hopefully they're busy taking the mechanics of Bowser's Fury and turning it into a full-fledged game. My dream has always been a 3D Mario with SMB3-style power ups and the explorable stages of Sunshine, which it was the closest thing to delivering yet.
Look, Fire Emblemfags have already caved and bought a Switch 2. And now Pokéfags caved too. But I will not cave until we get a new Mario game though I will accept a new Paper Mario also
>>735066532Odyssey/bananza felt like the perfect ending to the IP. I felt the same way with botw/totk.
That hasn't been true since SNES. Get with the times. Nintendo has multiple system selling blockbuster franchises. I wish mariosnoys would finally get that.
Fastest selling system of all time and still no Mario, that's crazy
>>735066645If it had to end it should've ended with Galaxy 2 and BOTW.
Mario and Link were the faces of the switch 1, but Kirby and DK are the faces of the switch 2. Expect much more from them.
>>735066532I like mario but Ive never been super into the main mario games. I didnt play 64, sunshine or galaxy. I do have that collection with all 3 on it but I havent played though it >>735066623>Fire Emblemfags have already caved and bought a Switch 2not yet im waiting for fortunes weave to actually come out
>>735066645Eh, the devs have hinted if they were ever going to make a "final" Mario game, it'd be something like Mario Maker where the players could continue the cycle by making their own content.
>>735066532Mario is so Nortubel tier anyway
>nooo my bing bing wahoosThey would just be raping it's corpse anyway like all the others you listed.
>>735066532>Mario is the reason you buy a NintendoPeople buy for Pokemon and Mario Kart, not main series Mario.
>>735066532if you're gonna count kirby air riders you might as well count mario tennis
>Nintendo console comes out>It has MarioIT ALWAYS HAS MARIO WTF??? WHERE ARE MY OTHER GAMES>Nintendo console comes out>It has no MarioWHERE IS MY MARIO GAME NINTENDO YOU FAGGOTS?You cant win
Mario looks good in a suit.
Still buying a Switch 2
mario tennis fever you fucking retardeveryone is playing it
>>735066532It doesn't have a Kirby. It has an Air Ride, which is very cool don't get me wrong, but it's not a 3D Kirby like Forgotten land and it's not a 2D Kirby like every mainline Kirby game in existence before that. It also doesn't really have a Donkey Kong. At least, not a traditional 2D Donkey Kong. It also doesn't have a Pokemon. It has a couple of spinoffs, one with realtime battling and one AC/Builders Omegaforce game. But Wiwa is going to be the first mainline pokemon and it's got delayed so it's not even coming out this year. If you count all those things then you might as well count Mario Kart and Mario Tennis as Mario games. We both know those aren't Mario games, those are spinoffs. Lets just be honest with ourselves here. So let's recap, it has:a Mario Kartan Air Ridea 3D DKa 3D MetroidTwo Pokemon Spinoffsa Mario Tennisa Zelda MusouDoesn't have:No 3D MarioNo 2D MarioNo 2D Donkey KongNo 2D MetroidNo Mainline PokmeonNo 3D KirbyNo 2D KirbyNo 3D ZeldaNo 2D Zelda
>>735070778Ultimate proof that a system doesn't need games to sell. It would explain how the PS5 is going to blow past 100m units without a single game.
>>735071085yeah, gaming has gotten big enough and people have gotten rich enough that they'll buy consoles even without any exclusives or games to play on themit's a rising tide lifting all boats situation I think. Real median income after tax in the US has risen 1.5x from about 30k in 1985 when the NES released to 45k today, in 2022 dollars. Everyone just has way more money to spend on stupid shit like videogames than they used to when everyone was way, way poorer
>>735071272>>735071085not to mention population sizes have changed a lot too. In 1985 when the NES came out the US only had 230M people. today it's 345M people. There are just way more people around to buy shit, and all of those people are at least 1.5x richer too!Similarly Globally there were only 4.8B people when the NES came out, compared to 8.4B today. And back in 1985 global GDP per capita was $2500, wheras now it's $14000. Everyone is so much richer it's ridiculous.From that perspective the numbers of units sold by modern consoles is actually really fucking pathetic when you think about it. 120M gameboys in 1989 when you consider the denominator of the amount of people they had to sell to and how much money those people had to spend? That's like selling 900M units today. Modern console sales are actually really fucking sad
>>735070778>not even in it's second yearThe only thing it's really missing is a direct and some new game announcements.
>>735071689Would be really good to announce some stuff asap
>>735071529>points out that there are more people>ignores how much the playing field has changed with gaas titles and phone games>ignores the distribution of population changes with it being overwhelmingly people in third world countries where a gaming console costs multiple months worth of paychecks if you are in that countries middle income bracketPathetic.
>>735071775>ignoresliterally posted the US numbers you illiterate loser
>>735071775learn to read
>>735071775Gaming might have gotten bigger, but console gaming seems to have stagnated. Especially compared to 7th gen sales.PS2 still hasn't even been beaten, and it came out 26 years ago. Ridiculous. You would think something would have beaten it by now with how much richer the world is.
Has Mario been forgotten?
Nintendo forgot about Mario... Galaxy HD, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, NSO releases of like half a dozen Mario games, and Wonder's Switch 2 version aren't enough.
>>735071857Nintendo clearly have no intention of prioritizing making Mario games if they're happy to let a decade go by without a new game, at the very least
>>735071859None of those are mainline full Mario attention games. Galaxy is 20 years old, MK is a multiplayer game, Tennis is as well, and NSO is 500 years old, and Wonder is not a 3D mario.
>>735071085There are literally seven games in the post you're responding to.>TH-THOSE DON'T COUNTShut the fuck up you disingenuous faggot.
>>735071951PS5 has Astro Bot and Ghost of Yotei. Is that why it sold 100m units?And by the way, when the Switch 2 became the fastest selling console ever was when it had literally 1 game on it.
>>7350719298 Deluxe has outsold every other Mario game. Mario Kart basically IS the main series at this point.
>>735071997Dude, you know what they mean. When was the last time Mario had a proper platforming 3D entry? Seriously. A racing game doesn't count.
>>735071997In a lot of ways this is true, which is probably why they prioritized getting a Mario Kart out for the console on release but they don't mind letting 3D Mario stagnate without an entry for 9 years
>>735071997okay and CoD and Fifa blow mario out of the water, we should be getting a captain price movie next month but it's just mariowhat an unjust world you must live in where these unpopular shit franchises are being talked about over the ones that sell the most
>>735066532>No 2D MarioThat SMB Wonder Switch 2 Edition that added Slopalina
>>735071889>a decade go byWonder was in what, 2023? I assume you just meant 3D for some reason?
The Switch 2 sure has some games, but they all feel like games you'd get as an extra to play alongside the major game you bought the console for, and nothing quite fills that role of a major game you bought the console for. The first Switch 2 game that might really do it is a fucking Fire Emblem of all things.
>>735066532most buy it for kart.
>>735072271Might as well count Mario Tennis last month if you're gonna count Wonder
>>735071805>>735071838I read it, their analysis is dead wrong because it's completely ignorant of how the market itself has changed, you're not selling 900m gameboys today when $10 smartphones exist with free to play games, the barrier to entry is so stupidly low and it caters far far better to people who see games as only a means to pass 5 minutes at a time.>120M gameboys in 1989In the year it launched? are you fucking serious, fucking hell this analysis is complete retardation.>>735071839Yeah, because there's more avenues for gaming with lower barriers to entry. PS2 was a well maxed product, it's core run was beaten by the NDS and Switch, it finished production in 2013, the same year it's successor's successor launched.
>>735072383why the fuck is it suggesting the market hasn't changed, are you literally fucking retarded? if the market has changed that merely explains why console sales are fucking pathetic now, it doesn't contradict any of the base numbers. jesus christ you're stupid
>>735066532I think you're right, I'll stand by with the good ole d until a Mario&Zelda game are announced, I had enough of open world games tho, I'd really rather an oot, mm or tp.Or ss too what the hell.
>>735071529How much did gas, groceries, and rent go up since 1985 you brainlet? Just because your mom pays for those doesnt mean they dont exist. People are more broke then ever.
>>735072565this is REAL income you fucking retard, that's AFTER ACCOUNTING FOR INFLATIONDo you not have any fucking clue what words mean?
>>735072565It literally already takes into account price changes in those things you stupid motherfucker, that's why it's equalized dollar values
>>735072447If the market was remotely the same your argument would hold but it isn't, it's changed drastically, even if people want video games there are so much more avenues with lower barriers to entry, and even for software itself GAAS titles weren't as well honed at eating up peoples time as they were 20 years ago, the market is just not the same so expecting a 900 mil GB makes zero sense when phones already fulfill that same kind of time taker.I'm just going to have to accept that you simply cannot understand this as a subject and that there is literally no more value in replying to you.
>>735072683It's not a fucking argument, you are literally replying with nonsequiturs like you're saying something relevant to the conversation when the post you were replying to was merely listing out the base numbers by time period. You have no idea how fucking stupid you are that you think you're saying anything at all that's contradicting anything that anyone is saying.
>>735072604>>735072641You can say it accounts for inflation all you want, I don't see it accounting for inflation.If you're using official cooked inflation numbers you're even dumber than I thought.
I chose Nintendo since compared to Sony and Microsoft, they had>Many good exlusives>No paid online>A reasonable priceNow Nintendo has>Few good exlusives>Paid online>Overpriced hardwareBut I am not unreasonable. Tell me why I should continue to support them with my patronage.
>>735072683You are an absolute fucking dunce who has no idea what the fuck is even going on. This is the conversation you just had:Person 1:>hey there are 10 apples sold in 1985 compared to 12 apples sold today, but populations went from 230 to 345 in the same time. That's interestingPerson 2:>OMG PATHETIC DONT YOU KNOW THE MARKET FOR APPLES CHANGED IN THAT TIMEPerson 1:>literally no-one said otherwise, what the actual fuck is wrong with you
>>735072741>i'm replying with non sequitirs>no the market is similar enough that the switch 1 should be able to sell 900 million units worldwide
>>735072812motherfucker have you never heard of ceteris paribus? how ignorant can you be
>>735072806I mean don't. buy the games that exist if you like the look of them, and don't buy the games that don't exist (since you can't anyway)If they want to sell games they'll start making them. It's not your fault if they don't make the games, it's theirs.
>>735072807That's possibly the worst example i've ever seen, the market has changed to the point that you can't expect sales to be remotely similar to historical levels extrapolated, not only marketplace displacement but tastes have changed vastly.Yet again you just don't understand what's happening with videogames if you think that games consoles would magically sell inline with population changes, especially when that distribution is so vastly different across societies/cultures>>735072851Markets are so vastly different you just can't make extrapolations like the one you made, it makes zero sense.
>>735073021MOTHERFUCKER NO-ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING CONTRADICTING ANYTHING YOU'RE SAYINGYOU KEEP REPEATING YOURSELF LIKE YOU'RE ARGUING AGAINST A POINT SOMEONE HAS MADE BUT NOONE MADE THAT POINTFUCKING LEARN TO READ
>>735072025Yeah and Nintendo's only ever made one 3D Mario per console. DK Bananza shares so much DNA with Odyssey that if you played as Mario turning into wacky animals this retard would be completely satisfied. Switch 2 already has a great 3D collectathon, but I guess since it doesn't have a fat Italian man in it it just doesn't count.
>>735073149sales-wise I think it would have performed a lot better as a Plumbergame. For being the Odyssey team sales are kinda muted
>>735073054Oh good, then don't bother replying to me when I was right the first time, dead right in fact.
>>735071996>PS5 has Astro Bot and Ghost of Yotei. Is that why it sold 100m units?This comparison fundamentally doesn't work, PlayStation's business model has been driven by third parties since its inception and (bar Gran Turismo) each of their consoles' best selling games have consistently been majority multiplat. Generally speaking, PlayStation exclusives (even when they had those) observably don't drive hardware sales in to anywhere near the extent that Nintendo's do
>>735073387Yes, who the fuck would think the market hadn't changed? Like literally imagine being so retarded that you think you had a novel thought there. You should reflect on how fucking stupid you are and whether you should ever open your mouth
>>735073387This is a genuine "but what if you hadn't eaten breakfast" tier of inability to understand a counterfactual. It's interesting to see one of you out in the wild.
>>735073387>AH HA SEE I WAS RIGHT, I ACTUALLY DID EAT BREAKFAST TODAY!
>>735073401so 1 game on nintendos system made it the fastest selling of all time then?
>>735073656It launched with more than one game, but yes that wouldn't be an unreasonable suggestion given that the game in question is Mario Kart
>>735073439>>735073532>>735073601No need to gaslight me, we've already established that consoles sales can't be called pathetic given the context of the way that they market has changed.
>>735073764What else did it launch with? People had to wait a month for Bananza
>>735073862jesus christ NO you stupid motherfucker, the market changing EXPLAINS why the console sales are pathetic. Noone in the fucking world thinks the market hasn't changed. We all know you ate breakfast today you thick motherfucker, we are talking about ceteris paribus, we are looking at how the numbers look if we pretend you DIDN'T EAT BREAKFASTYou should fucking ask yourself why you think you're so fucking stupid that you think you were the only person in the world to notice that the market for games might have changed in 40 years
>>735073876welcome tour of course, everyone's favourite new Nintendo IP
>>735070778It has 8 more years to get these games. You'd have to be retarded to expect all of that on launch day.>No Mainline PokmeonI know you are just dumb and mean a new gen, but Legends Z-A is mainline.
>>735066532kill yourself nin10doland. you're a faggot
>>735074105Mainline pokemon games have 2 versions. Pokemon XD is closer to being a mainline pokemon game, at least it actually has pokemon gameplay unlike the spinoff action combat in Z-A. If Z-A is mainline then fucking Mystery Dungeon is mainline too
>>735074105retard
>>735066532If there is no Mario, this shit ain't Nintendo!
>>735073876On launch day, not counting specific versions of already existing older games which are or were exclusive to it, it had four exclusives which I'll pre-emptively grant are very small potatoes next to MK:>Mario Kart World>Fast Fusion>Survival Kids>Welcome Tourbut this is really besides the main point, which is that dismissing a launch with "one game" is a little silly when the one game is a follow up to the ~5th or 6th most popular game ever
>>735074207Not him but both Legends games are officially described as mainline by Gamefreak iirc
>>735066532mario kart 8 sold twice as many copies as mario odyssey
>>735074105>>735074393They might be mainline, but the Switch 2 doesn't have a true Switch 2 Pokemon yet. ZA is a Switch 1 game.
>>735074393yeah that's why it has its own special "Legends" subseries title, because it's a normal mainline pokemon game
>>735074461Take it up with the guys who made it anon not me
>>735074520I'm just pointing out that we all have eyes
>>735066532Mario Karts sell more than 3D Mario games, tho
>>735066532>Mario is the reason you buy a Nintendo.Mario hasn't been a draw for a long time. Zelda has a far better track record as the two consoles that launched with Zelda were massive successes while its rarely the case for Mario.>SNES was struggling against the Genesis in the US until DKC>N64 had Mario 64 and lost to the Playstation>Gamecube had Luigi and it did worse>DS had Mario 64 and was initially losing to the PSP. It was Nintendogs that saved it>3DS had 2D, 3D and Mario Kart and was still Nintendo's worst selling handheld>Wii U had a NSMB which sold 30M on Wii. Flop so big they had to kill their handheld line.The GBA is the only system I can think that was a success with Mario games but thats also when Nintendo had a monopoly on handhelds. If anything, Mario is a crutch. His games sell well but they rarely move a console. Nintendo either needs to get a Zelda game out or get a New IP that will get people interest.
>>735073956No need to change your mind in agreeing with me, we already know I'm right, a doubling of world population is irrelevant when most people still don't have the resources to come near a games console but do have the resources to access phone games, and with the way that most people interface with games and the value that they extract from them you just can't expect console sales to magically grow proportionally wit population increases even in western markets where they are considered affordable by most households, that's like arguing that a sequel to a niche games sales are bad because it only increase by 33% when the platform it's on quadrupled it's player base, it's a niche it doesn't expand proportionally, never has never will.
>>735074726holy fucking shit dude you are literally the man who can't imagine a world where you didn't eat breakfast. I can't believe you people are real
It is legit insane that they are approaching the 1 year mark without any flagpole game like 3D Mario, Mainline Pokemon (I dont count Legends crap), Smash Bros... It's all been ports of old stuff or some shitty spin-off
>>735074814Yeah, it seems like a really strange move to not have anything lined up for year 1 or even seemingly year 2. Even one game would have made a big difference compared to 0
>>735074778Look we already agreed, there's no point in this anymore.
>>735074858you're too stupid to even understand what happened in this conversation. God I pity you
>>735074843Its a combination of games taking longer to make and Nintendo being really inefficient. The Switch generation made them think they can just rely on everygreen titles to sell forever but what they were actually doing is eating the seed crop. Now things aren't going well as they are positioned like their old catalog would sustain them.
>>735074843While I don't doubt mario kart will continue to move units its still the party game you play with friends sometimes, not a main course meal. And even for that game they've just been doing silent mini updates instead of any DLC. I guess their new strategy is to starve gamers of exciting content so that they will buy any 6/10 or half-assed switch 2 edition they pump out
>>735075087I'm surprised they're not putting more stuff out to take advantage of the drought. A lot of franchises will get the kind of spotlight they'd never get while bigger titles release around it. This is a big chance to elevate their smaller properties
>>735072319There's a distinct and acknowledged difference between Mario spinoffs and "Super Mario" titles. The latter is the mainline shit.
>>735075251who the fuck was talking about "Super Mario"? go back to jan misali you freak
>>735066532Pokemon Gen 10 will determine whether it's a success or not
>>735075363it's already pretty successful. You can be successful with no games, look at the ps5
Another advertising thread, you guys arguing random schizo shit rock! Keeping the thread bumped 24/7, that's awesome.
>>735075462If only it would help Nintendo make more games
>>735072025They make one or two every console generation, switch 2 have like 6 to 8 lifecycle ahead, there will be one no doubt, bitch about not getting one first year is retarded
>>735075293Someone was whining about "not getting a Mario game in a decade". There hasn't been a 3D game in a decade but Wonder isn't even 3 years old yet. It might not be what you want but it's what you got.
>>735075492It helps sell more console, thanks schizy
>>735075573I'd like 2D games and 3D games at a much higher frequency/cadence than how long it took for Wonder to come out and how long it's taking for a game after Odyssey
>>735075573Now we get wonder sw2 edition with more content.Retards don't get sw2 first years will be backed up with sw2 edition games first
>>735075682>Retards don't get sw2 first years will be backed up with sw2 edition games firstI think everyone realised that very quickly. The problem is that this is fucking LAME
>>735075624consoles consoles everywhere but not a game to play
>>735075662Why? You suffer from zoomer brainroot? It is well know nintendo only make one or two mainline mario games per console generation. Play old games or other games to 100% if you want to play mario, not just because you want dopamine overdose.
>>735075721Lame why? Everyone and their grandmas always wanted a switch "pro" and they gave it to us. Third parties even port good shit now with strong capcom support.
>>735075749>Why?why would I want new games? do you realize how stupid you sound?
>>735070778>but it's not a 3D Kirby like Forgotten landit has an exclusive expansion to Forgotten land anon.
>>735075737Already more exclusives than ps5 and xbox combined lmao>>735075817I already addressed that point, you will get your new one this console generation, why are you throwing a tantrum because it isn't out yet?
>>735075796sure if you treat the switch 2 as a switch pro then it seems a lot less lame. realistically though all you've actually done is massively lowered your expectations. Yes, now the expectations are easier to hit, but it also means that hitting these significantly lower expectations is a lot less interesting or valuable to players.
>>735075878yes, keep telling people they're stupid for wanting to play new games and that they should go play old games instead, that's a really funny bitwhy oh why could anyone want a new game to play when they can just play games from 30 years ago over and over and over instead.
>>735066532I got my first job recently (blue collar) making $28 an hour, I work around 45 hours a week, 5 days a week. I bought a switch 2 with my first pay check (live with parents, no expenses). Playing Mario kart world was fun, might pick up some frogs or fun kusoge. Question to wage slave anons, what do I do with all of this money?
>>735075363Pokopia already cemented its "Success" status.
>>735075949invest it until you have enough to not work, then you'll have more time to do things you want to do
>>735075880Expectations? Nintendo always do the same, they always produce one or two mario games only for the current console generation, it has been like this for 30 years, actual nintendo owners know the expectations way better than a schizo zoomer who like to be a contrarian for the sake of it.
>>735075949>some frogsGomen, phone posting gomen. *jrpgs*
>>735075980really its always just one mario game. Galaxy 2 was an exception.
>>735066532Donkey Kong and Mario are the same series. Mario literally spawned from Donkey Kong. Bananza is a prequel to Odyssey with the same gameplay by the same dev team. There's your 3D Mario.
>>735076036What part of one or two mainline mario games per console generation you didn't understand?
>>735075980do you not actually know the gaps between 3D mario games then? here I'll list it for you:1996 Mario 642002 Sunshine (6 year gap)2007 Galaxy (5 year gap)2010 Galaxy 2 (3 year gap)2013 3D World (3 year gap)2017 Odyssey (4 year gap)It is now 2026, we are 9 years in with no game, no release date, not even an ANNOUNCEMENTNothing is on the horizon and we are now in the biggest 3D mario drought of all timeReal Mario fans already knew this, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
>>735076106the part that implies the "or two" was a regular part of the equation.
>>735075941There is plenty of new games around and actual non schizo fans know they will get them when they are ready, always been like this.
>>735076126Its about console generation not year of publishing.Nes - Mario 1, 2(spinoff), 3Snes - WorldN64 - Mario 64GCN - Sunshine Wii - Galaxy 1 & 2WiiU - 3D world Switch - Odyssey Counting years gap is retarded when galaxy 2 its literally the same engine as 1, just an expansion not a full fledged new gameplay mechanic.
>>735075662Everything ia taking longer to make now. This is what always pushing for bigger and bigger games looks like in practice. Welcome to the modern game industry where everything fucking sucks, enjoy your stay.
>>735076507Yes and No. Games don't actually need to be bigger and bigger. Games from the past are often much better than modern games that thousands of people spend a decade on. The fact that many devs are getting bogged down in pointless shit that won't affect the end product's quality for years and years on end is a mistake that they could simply choose not to make.
>>735068737Goomba's Fallacy. It's different people mad.
>>735076640That is the common sense viewpoint. That went out the window some 15 years ago.
They thought Mariofags would be satisfy with Donkey Kong
>>735076641nah, there are legitimate disingenuous faggots who post both.
>>735066532It doesn't really have a Pokemon yet, just two spinoffs. WW is when the big sales will happen.
>>735066532Bananza is a 10 times better game Odyssey, crazy how you people care more about the name printed on the box than the actual quality of the game.
>>735076714and they were right, but online shitposters weren't satisfied.
Bananza took the mantle as THE sw2 platformer, I would expect a new mainline Mario game at mid or late lifecycle.
>>735066532>counts air riders as "a kirby">doesn't count mario kart as "a mario"What is wrong with mariofags? Also, the fact that bananza "isn't enough" for them because it does have enough "wahoos" while playing is gay. Who the fuck cares if the character isnt there when the game is similar (and good) in every other way?
>>735076749Pokopia looks like it's gonna be comparable in size to the main series. The long term tail sales look like they're gonna be real shit
>a game console comes out without any movieslop >IT BAAADDDDDDDno one cares switch 2 keeps winning esls keep losing
>>735077415More like>switch 2 hasn't been jailbroken yet>third worlders seethe everywhereThey'll also claim it has no exclusives, then move the goal post to "no exclusives worth playing" when you point out it has more exclusives than PS5+Xbox combined and it hasn't even been out for a year
>>735067206I’m legit super curious about what kirby has in store for switch 2, his 35th anniversary is next year, nate the hate says a planet robobot remaster is happening, and we already got air riders and a switch 2 expansion for forgotten land
>>735078406they're just seething they spent $700 on something with zero games lel
I think nate the hate may know something about a 3d mario https://x.com/NateTheHate2/status/2032966133880328585
>>735077415>pure gameplay bing bing wahoo is "movieslop"you can tell someones an assmad thirdworlder because they use works they don't understand but others have used them negative against shit so they think its just an general insult
>>735070778it got expansions for 2d mario and 3d kirby. as for 3d zelda tbf we havent had a real 3d zelda in nearly 2 decades now
>>735079805I wonder what the takeup is for the expansions. I bought the originals but I have no interest in ever buying DLC for any game
>>735066532mario wonder is on switch 2
>>735074440Four times as many if we count both versions, and if not then just three times as many
>>735080602And Switch 1. I know because I beat it years ago and I ain't got no Switch 2.
Mario is becoming Nintendo's Mickey mouse where he's more of a spokesperson than ah active character.
>>735077415...are you confusing games that have movie adaptations with what people refer to when they call games "movieslop"??
>>735066532>Mario is the reason you buy a Nintendo.The reason I bought a Switch 1 was to play Bravely Default 2.
>>735080932It’s better on steam
>>735077415MP4 just came and went.
>>735067206>Mario and Link were the faces of the switch 1, but Kirby and DK are the faces of the switch 2. Expect much more from them.Said Eric, terrified of the next 3D Mario being announced in the next Nintendo Direct.
>>735066532Donkey IS the "mario". It's a platformer made by the 3D mario dev team. There will never be another Mario solo game, just like there will never be another Link solo game.
>>735074695>Mario hasn't been a draw for a long time>N64 had Mario 64 and lost to the PlaystationRemember that other factors were working against the N64: PS1 had a head start, third-parties were sick of Nintendo's abusive behavior, cartridges were more expensive than CDs. And EVEN SO the N64 managed to sell a very decent 33 million units. Mario 64 was absolutely a big part of that, there was a lot of hype and glowing reviews.
>>735067206I'd not at all be surprised if DK gets a racing spin off based on Rambi Racers from Bananza. It's an incredibly solid base.As for Kirby I could see Hal doing Amazing Mirror but in 3d.>>735068737It's a seething snoy anon, trying to bait people into thinking#nintendooooooomedfor real this time.
>>735071085the ps5 isn't even past 70mil anon, it's lucky to be over 65mil.gonna take off the returned units, the refurbished units, the rentals, counting ps portals as ps5s, etc.Cope more and die in a ditch.SWitch2 has more games than the ps5 after 7 months, and that fact enrages you.
>>735071839the fucking ds beat the ps2's numbers. which is 145mil.Or are you really so retarded as to believe sony randomly updating those numbers by several millions after years of no growth just because a Nintendo system came close?Inbred nigger.>>735071689>not in second yearExactly, year1 doesn't close out until July. And it already has a fuck ton of games.
>>735073179How?It's over 5mil sales anon. The switch is at 18mil or so.That's just about 25% attach rate.Meanwhile odyssey sold what? 25mil? 30mil? vs the switch being 156mil. Bananza has a much higher attach rate/percent. And it'll remain at the 20-25% the entire console's existence.Quit your fucking excuses faggot.
>>735083743dire dire docks
>>735083743Fucking grim
>>735074814>>735074843>banabza doesn't count...BECAUSE SHUT UP REEEE LALALALALA REEEEEE>t..th...things would be better with a 3d m..mario...! please ignore switch2 being the fastest selling console period>please ignore EVERYONE going wild for pokopia, even the more hardline griftersYou lost.You got raped.Eat your crows and dicks faggots.
>>735066532>Mario is the reason you buy a Nintendo.Fastest selling console without next gen mainline Mario. Cope more
>>735084134>>735084172Forgot Yoshi, we are so back
>>735066532Nintendo forgot Mario!
>>735084334trannydachi life comes out next month i think
>>735084362That's a Switch 1 gameIf God of War Ragnarok isn't a PS5 game Tomodachi Life isn't a Switch 2 game
>>735080932yoiu have octopath 0, and bravely default hd. plus some atelier games.
>>735084247Yes, Bananza doesn't count. It doesn't have even half the appeal of mainline Mario. And Pokopia while popular is not gen 10. You can have all the fastest sales you want but at the end of the day its all spin-offs and not the proper games
>>735084334how is MP4 absent but Pokopia can be gameshared to a switch and is listed
>>735084469Because you can't straight up buy and play Pokopia for Switch 1
>>735084469>No you can play it on Switch, but first you just need to buy a Switch 2
>>735084427Bananza has a higher attachment rate on switch 2 than Odyssey does on Switch 1. That proves it has more appeal
>>735083743Now post the sony version.
>>735067206>Kirby>Not a face of Switch 1You niggers are easily the most insufferable Nintendo fanbase. You got 6 fucking games on Switch 1 and you don't see it as enough and think Kirby should be better-represented on Switch 2.
>>735066532YOU SHOULD GIVE THE UNPOPULAR, UNSUCCESSFUL THINGS THAT DONT SELL A CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHY CANT YOU FAGGOTS LIKE SCRIMBLO BIMBLO MADE BY NINTENDO!?!?!?
>>735084427>Yes, Bananza [seething bitch made snoy tears]concession accepted.Lost. Raped.Enjoy 8 years of impotent shit flinging cuckie.
>>735084553I have to buy a switch 2 to play Metroid also
>>735084427I agreeI hate donkey kong and i will always hate rare
>>735084597It’s still an issue
>>735084427>And Pokopia while popular is not gen 10.That's a good thing.
>>735084635I don't understand OPs argument. Switch 2 is leading with its mid tier performing series like DK, Kirby, Prime, Yoshi and it's the fastest selling console of all time
>>735084597Way to be a dishonest fucking nigger.He never said that.Kirby was not treated as a main/major reason to by a Switch1, more supplemental/strong additional titles, least till Forgotten Land.The faces of the Switcvh were>BotW>Mario Odyssey>Splatoon>Xenoblade2>Smash UltMeanwhile the faces of the switch2 is>Mario Kart World>DK Bananza>Kirby (air riders [given it got 2 directs])>Splatoon Raiders>PokemonWhat decides a consoles main appeall is the attention given to it.DK and Kirby are given spotlight treatment for the console for the first time in years.Obviously Zelda will still be huge, same for Mario. But Nintendo seems to want to really grow their more smaller IPs, especially given Yoshi's new game looks quite good as well.
>Waiting to buy a consoleAre you guys dumb? Consoles only get more expensive nowadays. You should buy NOW!
>>735084903OP is just a buck broken faggot snoy, seething over the success with just the smaller IPs. He in reality does NOT want a 3d mario or mainline Pokemon because he knows Nintendo will decimate the industry with those due to its current momentum.Have you not seen the amount of deranged seethe threads over the last few days?Snoys are shitting themselves over the upcoming direct.
The love for this thing is so forced compared to switch 1
>>735082645>N64 managed to sell a very decent 33 million unitsThe SNES before it sold 49 million units. It was a 33% drop in sales, it was a 16 million drop which was bigger than the drop between the NES and the SNES. >third-parties were sick of Nintendo's abusive behaviorNintendo has had a fuck ton of consoles where third parties either don't make stuff for it or only jump on after it was a success. The Switch launched with 6 games, two of which were Nintendo titles. The fact is Mario doesn't bring people to the console. You can find hundreds of video essays on how revolutionary Mario 64 was but at the end of the day no one was rushing out to get a N64 because of it. And this was the same for the Gamecube, Wii U and 3DS, and was true of the DS and (to a lesser extent) the SNES until a better game came along. The truth is this: the people who care the most about the Mario games will already buy a console. Its why Mario sells well while the console sells like shit. Its also how Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was the best selling game for the Switch but when the Switch 2 comes around it struggles outside of Japan (much like the 3DS which was a Mario/Pokemon machine). Nintendo has to let Mario go and cultivate new IPs that people under 35 might care about. They wont because its easier said than done and Miyamoto will never let someone else be the face of the company.
>>735084721You don't, you can just put it into a Switch 1
>>735084062>And it'll remain at the 20-25% the entire console's existence.Big assumption. I think a Mario game would have had a much higehr attach rate than 20%. That's extremely low in the playground we're talking about
>>735085526it'll feel less forced if it eventually gets some games
>>735085183I can accept console price. But not its library. And especially not Switch 2.
