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nobody is going to buy a videogame translation of a tabletop wargame are you crazy
>>735068323Its going to suck isn't it?
>>735068398
>>735068323THIS THREAD NOW BELONGZ2 DA ORKZ
>>735068780of course
>>735068323how's gorgutz gonna fight lion
>>735068323>>735068832black-coded btw
>>735068323No Sisters of Battle, no buy
>>735069274wrong, these are black coded
>>735068780has better odds of success than the total war version
>>735069398finally, representation for me
>>735069437Im starting to think total warhammer 40k is a scam, gonna be rug pulled like the CA's troonslop
>>735069437>>735068780At least DOW4 is gonna play like a traditional RTS. No clue what Total War 40k will look like it, and it's going to be on consoles so I wouldn't expect a very micro-heavy game.
>>735068323I love da Orkz so much bros space poorines can suck a green one
>>735068780At the very least it will suck less than total warhammer 40k will
necrons mog greennigs in aesthetics
>>735069274Wrong, they're modeled after white British soccer hooligansor as they call them football hooligans
>>735069651hootball fooligans
>buying models heh couldn't be me
>>735069651I suppose they'd be capable of rape if they were made about the modern Englandistan folk
>>735068780Nah, campaign will be better than in any previous DoW. People will beat campaigns once and then uninstall.
As much as only 4 launch factions sucks I wanna hope they will make it up by giving the DLC factions actual campaigns this timeReally fucking weird not to launch with guard though, surely that makes more sense as a starter thing than mechanicusno chaos at all at the start is fucking weird too, warhammer IS chaos
>>735069398xhe looks like me... I thank you...
>>735069746how the fuck do you have 12 terabytes of 3d models that's stupid
>>735069795>As much as only 4 launch factions sucksbut that's normal in RTS>Really fucking weird not to launch with guard All 3 previous DoW games launched without guard.
>>735069795Total War 40k is launching with guard, and i think thats a fuckiong waste of a space better launch than dlc, i spose
>>735069902>but that's normal in RTSIt's not normal for RTS to be in such a massive franchise, they can justify a bigger budget>All 3 previous DoW games launched without guard.Fair point>>735069937at least total fantasy 1 had 4 actual distinct sides instead of 2 factions being 1 side
>>735069651soccer is a british word
>>735070041>It's not normal for RTS to be in such a massive franchise, they can justify a bigger budgetIt is. That's why it always happened with strategy games. Either they were made with many factions, but mostly reskined ones (AoE, Civ) or had from 2 to 4 actually unique ones (War/Starcraft, DoW, Company of Heroes, Supreme Commander, BFME, Age of Mythology etc).This is because simply making more unique factions is way too expensive to justify putting them into the game at launch.The only actual difference between back then and now is that back then there was no way to properly support game after release and tech changed too quickly to justify sticking with one game. So games were abandoned instead of expanding them to reach their true potential.Now devs can properly expand their games with dlcs and updates over the years to include everything. A much, much better solution than to scrap everything and start again just to again not put everything into the game, because you have to start from scratch to make sequel already. What am utter waste of time, money and resources to reinvent the wheel.Also Chaos is really not important. It wasn't even launch Rogue Trader faction. And with DoW, it was only in base game of a first game. That makes 3 DoW games without Chaos at launch now.
>>735070107No one uses it.
>>735069795I think guard is redundant if you already have the space marinesAnd mechanicus I think were chosen to give the game a unique faction that wasn’t in the previous titles, and to oppose the necrons as another robotic race
>>735069437the total war version will sell more copies without a doubtbut it will probably be an even worse game
>>735068323DoW4 gonna suck, and you are retarded if you are hyped for it
>>735069885it's not
>>73506945940K just turns devs into retards. Fatshark is releasing a helldivers-lite mode in Darktide tomorrow instead of a Chaos wastes port(the thing literally every player has been asking for). Not reinventing the wheel, but poorly copying someone elses wheel. Darktide should have been a slam dunk man. Biggest fumble of the decade.
>>735068323yawn, wake me up when there's chaos or tau
>le red unz goz fasta xDReddit faction.
>>735072120this. fun is peak reddit.
>>735069651This.Orks have always been a stand in for working class English and disgusting Germans (Aka: Working class English)
>>735072120>reddit factionyou're thinking of the ultramarines, or necrons
>>735072362I thought the edgy crusader marines were the germans
>>735069795Chaos has almost always been a DLC faction when it comes to Warhammer games
>>735072532They are based on the Teutonic Knights. Aka: Baltic rapebabies. Prussians are not and never will be German.
>>735070945I wanna see games where guard and marines are the same faction and the marines are there to back up the guard
>>735072415>UltramarinesAre reddit because they are the poster boy. Their actual lore and characters are not.>NecronsYes, but that's just because they are piss easy to play.
>>735070107Huh, so it is
>>735071580I remember thinking from the early trailers that game seemed too melee
ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ (SHADDUP LADS) ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ
>>735072870WAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
>>735068780almost certainly, but I'd like to believe the devs looked at all the negative feedback on DoW3 and are taking notesit's a completely different dev team so I have some hopeit seems like the less involved with previous warhammer games a team is, the better a game they produce (Vermintide, Space Marine 1, Mechanicus, TWW1, etc.) and these guys have no previous WH titles
>>73506974617tb of stls and not a single painted model, classic
>>735072813That's kind of the draw for the tide games.
>>735072958Wasn't Necromunda a better game than Deathwing though
>>735073303better than deathwing isnt a high standard
>>735073303they both suck, EYE is the only interesting game those frogs have ever made and it's still not great, just interestingarguably, my point still stands since EYE has so many WH inspirations
Man it's shocking that DoW had one good game and everything after it was bad to shit
>>735073421CoH killed DoW
>>735073421Both DoW1 and DoW2 and its xpac are great.
>>735073932dow2 was shit and completly missed what made the first one good by being a skirmish simulator with assfaggot heroes
>>735073984DoW2 was a better game with better mechanics than 1. The only flaw is not having a functional skirmish mode.
>>735073984No you faggot, DoW2 is definitely better than DoW1 in a lot of areas. Just because it doesn't allow you to relive your Red Alert 2 childhood does not mean it is bad.>Better physics>Better terrain mechanic>More involved squad fights>Better emphasis on unit preservation>Veterancy sytem>Better Commander system>Arguably better wargears
>>735073585This but unironicallyDoW2 is literally just CoH in 40k with DOTA heroes, and that's one of the major reasons it sucks ass
>>735069746>I don't have a problem, I swear
>>735073421DoW II shit the bed at compstomp skirmishes but everything else is alright. Other than having the community pick up the slack with the competitive details, but the original game's balance became way more flimsy across expansions. Fucking CSM LOST options in Winter Assault.
>>735074415>DoW II shit the bed at compstomp skirmishes but everything else is alright.m8, it has no base building, do you recall how many RTT games that have good compstomp skirmishes? Das rite.Still, 4v4 skirmishes is still better gameplay-wise compared to DoW1.
>>735068323>GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDE GREEN TIDEYou mean this green chud?
>>735074630>buh base building1 INT reply.DoW2's skirmishes are bad because Relic didn't feel the need to develop an AI that knew how to do anything other than cap points, use their infinite vision to avoid your troops to ninja cap points, and sacrifice troops trying and failing to cap points under fire. The AI literally doesn't even try to fight you or otherwise play the game.
>>735074415>DoW II shit the bed at compstomp skirmisheswhich is probably the biggest thing people do in multiplayer RTS, right after playing with/against their friends. Competetive play is a tiny niche that every RTS develops caters to in the hope of becoming the next starcraft.
>>735068323why are Orc factions way more common than goblins, trolls, gremlin, gnoll etc outside of singular enemies
>>735074689No, this green tide
>>735074896>develop an AIThere's your problem. You're trying to do a DoW1 skirmish (which also suffers from the same braindead AI problem) with DoW2 when both have literally fundamental gameplay difference. Just download the Elite mod and just compstomp from there.
>>735070041>justify a bigger budgetnothing justifies a bigger budget until rts achieves it Fortnite moment entering a renaissance.
>>735069274Shut the fuck up nigger.
>>735072958I'm playing through DoW3 at the moment for the first time. It's... fine. I don't like the base building bullshit but the heroes are fun enough. Chaos Rising is the best the series has been.
>>735075084>You're trying to do a DoW1 skirmish (which also suffers from the same braindead AI problem)the DoW1 AI is at least capable of putting on a fight and contesting the map, DoW2 AI is just a endless carousel of ninja capping and getting ninja capped
>>735075082wannabe doomguy shit *gag*
>>735075084>You're trying to do a DoW1 skirmish (which also suffers from the same braindead AI problem) with DoW2 when both have literally fundamental gameplay difference.What the fuck are you even talking about? DoW2 isn't a game of literally just merry go round capping, and expecting the enemy to actually fight you isn't "trying to play like DoW1".>Just download the Elite mod and just compstomp from there.Does elite mod fix the AI? That's actually news to me.
>>735075301I haven't seen this one in a long time, good shit
DAKKA BOYZ IZ DA BESTGET KRUMPED
>>735076265*shoots you from the other side of the map*nothing personell, greenskin
>>735068832The Ork Stronghold is oddly more difficult than the IG or Chaos stronghold missions in Dark Crusade. I suppose it has everything to do with there being a near constant stream of Orks barreling towards your location. Though FUCK the Eldar stronghold. Get up to the 3 strategic points after fighting tooth and nail and dealing with near constant harassment...and the fuckers are holed up in a nigh impenetrable fortress with 6+ Fire Prisms so I have to do the stupid 10 minute wait. Fuck Space Elves, fuck them so hard.
>>735074215Dawn of war is a good RTSdawn of war 2 is a bad company of herosI would love to see dawn of war 1 combined with the cover stuff of dawn of war 2 though
>>735076852shut up and get krumped blueberry
>>735074630I remember DoW2 had a really good campaign, but the skirmish mode AI was retarded as fuck unless you were doing team games. Even then it was still fairly stupid.
>>735073167but vermintide already exist. everyone thought wh40k would brign something more technological thn just whacking with clubs. distance gameplay was already present heavily in vermintide 2 so it was natural to think darktide would be different and more pew pew based than its fantasy counterpart. otherwise its basically a mod/reskin
This misguided purge of yours must end, captain Thule
>>735077193Somebody should make EDF but 40k, then we could really get our mass slaughter fantasies in
>>735068780I've been following the updates and interviews and while it may not be as good as DoW1, it looks much much better than 3 and better than 2. I remain hopeful it will turn out good even though hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
>>735077250This guy apparently dies at the very start of Soulstorm. He wasn't Sturnn levels of badass, but damn that's less than anyone has gotten for a DoW game.
>>735077418He gets killed in the intro for no fucking reason, but at least that motherfucker Vance with his 100 baneblades is a pretty decent replacement
>>735076972Orkz Stronghold is piss easy with stealth or high end tanks. Just roll through and blast the boss totems while hitting nothing else, the Ork attacks stop and they all kill each other for you. Tau Stealthsuits, Imperial Guard Basilisk heavy shell, Chaos/Loyal predator tanks with Lascannons, Eldar Fire Prisms, Necron heavy destroyers...just fly around the map blowing those few buildings up and they can't kill you before you ruin them.Eldar final defense is annoying but 90% focused on the center critical point. Slap all your heavy guns there, keep a few side forces to the left and right and it's easy. The map even gives you bonus tanks and forces when you clear the Ork and Chaos bases, makes it easy for the final push.But man FUCK the fucking Tau stronghold. Hammerheads and a fucking Greater Gnarloc charging your base every 3 minutes? Fuck me sideways that is too much firepower, and their paths are dotted with stealth suits and endless Kroot forces so you just drown in firepower if you ever leave your base. It takes forever and a day to fight your way through it all, you need to go to such roundabout nonsense to jump/teleport your forces through the arena the take out the buildings that spawn those enemy attack waves. I would fight the Eldar stronghold 3 times over before I have to play the Tau stronghold even once.
>>735077049this pic is my fav WH meme of all time, I must confess
>>735076972I found the ork stronghold to be middle of the road for difficulty, and its super easy to cheese the big totem thingsNecrons are by far the hardest for me because their initial attack wave is absurdly strong, you pretty much need a huge honorguard just to survive the first five minutes
>>735077193I mean you can go full ranged with psyker magic, or certain veteran builds are extremely ammo efficient. Much more freely than in vermintide. Plus with the large amount of ranged enemies you'll either be using ranged way more or rushing them down to melee them. Basically what I'm trying to say is even though melee is the selling point, you will be using guns a lot more than in vermintide.
>>735077531I already beat the game as Necrons, and that was boring as fuck. Infantry and a super heavy that moves slower than most units do while stunned is something that makes what should be a simple thing be incredibly boring. Most of the time my general strategy was waves of Warriors backed by immortals or heavy destroyers with the occasional wraith for detection or for soaking damage with their invulnerability. They made the Tau stronghold easier, simply because no amount of stealth stops the robotic ghost skeleton from ripping your asshole apart. It was also funny as fuck watching 3 wraiths keep the Greater Knarloc busy cycling invul periods so the immortals and H Destroyers could kill it.
>>735068323>ork campaign and ork trailers>"man, look at how cool the space marines are!" - GWIt's all so tiresome
>>735068780Is it relic? if so yes.
>>735077910It isn't Relic.
>>735069437what's it like being so wrong?
>>735068780At least it cant suck more than DoW 2 and 3.
>>735077773spess mehreens have been the protag factions for like a decade by nowyou should be thankful the starting roster isn't just 3 different mehreen chapters and orks
>>735077947ok the odds went up massively
GREEN ISH BESThttps://youtu.be/x5uwihWGu-I
>>735078313It's the devs behind iron harvestwhich if I recall right is a game where tanks were replaced by mechs but everybody said the mechs just felt like tanks, so in this game that will need to have both I hope they do a better job of making the mechs feel mechy
Ever since I started playing table top all these strategy games bore me I want more action based games
>OrksWhat a bunch of pussies
>>735080030>Dies offscreen>His rival is killed by a space marineImperial Guard are just fodder meant to be mowed down before the real heroes arrive.
>>735080030OLD MAN BALE EYE LIVES
>>735080030>kill him>he stays deadMOGGGEDDD Orks pwn that cunt
>>735080137>>735081420>They don't know
>>735068780Not as bad as 3 but yesIron Harvest was all concepts horrible execution down to the core
>>735073984I didn't like DoW2 as much as the first one, but the Ork campaign in Retribution is some of the funniest shit I've played.
>>735073076*printed
>>735076852>lost a spaceport and planet by falling for the ol' damaged cargo ship with malfunctioning comms except it was full of Orks
>>735083923Such is the price of being the only good guys in 40k
