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The great debate.
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>>735069597
debate over. Academy wins when outcast features level design like this dogshit
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>>735069597
Hard to decide desu, but overall I go Outcast because it feels like a continuous game with longer levels and more competent enemy AI, also a better story with more kino scenes and voice acting.
>>735069761
Skill issue.
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Outcast for single player, Academy for multiplayer.
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>>735070029
>u have lightsaber
>enemy has effectively a sniper
>terrain EXTREMELY HEAVILY favors ranged weapons
>no cover
really the only option is to balls to the walls rush through it. Its easily the worst level in the game.
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>>735070210
This
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>>735070225
I haven't played this game in 30 years, what's stopping you from just whipping out your blaster rifle?
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>>735069597
I love academy alot and probably played it the most but some people say that light saber stances were more simplified in it compared to outcast. Playing either online back in the day was incredible though
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>>735070225
Tough level but honestly it's just a get good or save scum moment
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>>735069761
Can you not deflect bowcaster shots? And if not, why the hell not?
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>>735069597
the first one because who doesn't want to be a pew pew rouge character and slowly become a jedi then who doesn't want to duel wield lightsabers and shit also push heavy strike pussy sith all day
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>>735070210
never had the opportunity to play academy online, but multiplayer outcast was absolute kino
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Does the Steam version of Outcast have the thing where a single lightsaber hit kills all enemies?
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>>735070568
iirc that's just a console command
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>>735070703
It used to be part of the uncensor/blood patch in Germany
I dunno what the experience was like for people in real countries
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>>735070729
>blood patch
what?
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>>735070770
https://www.moddb.com/games/star-wars-jedi-knight-ii/downloads/ksemods-star-wars-jk-ii-dismemberment-patch
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kek found some sketchy torrents for this
>run the install.bat file to install it
fuck that kek but found a gog version so its all sweet, thanks for the thread I needed something to play tonight
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>>735070964
Have fun
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>>735069761
It almost filtered me. Yavin's enemies being immune to force powers while in water was also annoying.
>>735070503
There's a bunch of enemies with disruptors (sniper rifles) which you can't deflect. You either rush and probably get shot or counter snipe them, which is makes the level a slog.
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>>735069597
jk2
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>First playthrough
Outcast
>All other Playthroughs
Academy, not even close. On of the most fun and replayable games ever
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>>735069597
Never cared for Academy much, mostly because of the story I guess. JK2 for me.
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>>735069761
Honestly, the levels in Outcast are well-designed in terms of challenge and enemy placement, but in terms of variety and visual design they're boring as sin and that's why Academy wins overall.
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>>735070503
>>735071613
Don't forget those fuckers who hide around corners in the stairwells armed with thermal detonators. The entire level is designed to punish you for over-relying on your saber and it's kind of genius, in an assholish way.
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>>735069597
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>>735076154
it really is impressive how much better balanced outcast is compared to academy. i barely ever used anything but the saber in the latter while every weapon in outcast manages to be distinctly useful.

academy is the overall better game though but i do wish it weren't as easy and simple



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