Now that the dust has settled, what did we think of it?
It's ok
Elden Mid.
0/10Anon
>>735077560greatest game of all time, a classic that people will play and look back to for dacades to come; it defined the peak of Fromsoftware's formula to the point that no one expects them to repeat it and try to improve on ER
>>735077560npc game
>>735077560Good game. Overrated
Okay game, worse than DS3 and maybe proof that open world games don't always improve games.
Worst game Fromsoft has ever created, even Ninja Blade and Eternal RIng are vastly better than it
>>735077560Base game, great.DLC, disappointment.
>>735077560>rollslop
>>735078317I raise you by saying the open world significantly diminishes the merits of the basic design of these games.
>>735077560It's hard to deny that it's the best AAA game of the last few years. I hated it at first, and I still think it has huge flaws.>level scaling is all over the place which trivializes early areas if you don't do everything in the secret intended order>open world has too much filler when it could have had more atmospheric emptiness instead (SOTE solved this)>can't respec weapons so upgrading them is practically putting a wedding ring on them etc
3/10
>>735077560It's a good game
solid 7/10
Retrogressive UI design, gives the player zero direction. Their UX team either needs to take classes or hire new people, because it's so blatant it's insulting to the industry in 2022.
>>735077560Dragon's Dogma at home
>>735077560classic overrated miyahacki slop
>>735078502>sote solved thisOh boy I sure do love exploring this giant empty area! There's so much to find! Look! Fly Mold!
>>735078502You can't respec weapons but short of the final upgrade, every upgrade material is limitless, either through farming or buying them with bell bearingsAnd including DLC, there are 21 ancient dragon stones in the game, when have you ever used 21 different weapons in a playthrough?
Dusty old bones full of green dust!
>>735078502>atmospheric emptinessBullshit cope.>it's okay that the Abyssal Woods is a massive empty area you have to traverse by foot, it's all for the sake of atmosphere! >said atmosphere is nothing but a bunch of goats and rats with glowing eyes and the shittiest implementation of a stealth gimmick I have ever seen
Quit the game after being unable to beat this.Enjoyed the 60 hours I spent on ER
>>735077560One of the rare games that actually deserves the 10/10 label.
>>735078317>>735078462Elden Ring is DS3 but better in every single regard. Even soundtrack, now that the DLC is out
>>735080212I don't remember the detail, but I think he dies if you hit him.
It's the best game in any of its genres.
I wish I could play it again for the first time.I've tried every build and replayed it so much I'm sick of it.When is Fromsoft going to serve me more slop?I'm starving here.
>>735080207you should play Shadow of the Colossus
>>735077560Most fun I have had with a game since MegaMan Legends.Fuck hipster contrarians.
>>735078502It's a AA game that thinks it's a AAA.
It's a legit masterpiece. That doesn't mean it's without flaw, but it represents a high watermark that most developers can only dream of. The DLC was a little disappointing though and now that I'm on the other side I have open world fatigue.
>>735080319After duskbloods its either new IP or standalone expansion to armored core
>>735077560It’s good but I still do not like open world games
>>7350775607/10
>>735077560It was great. Then I did a second run and realized it was meh at best. Least favorite of all their games from DeS onward
im kinda bitter game reviewers dont collective remove points for glaring omissions like >game explains its mechanics so the player can make informed decisions and enjoy the game>the game that has quests makes good quests and has a quest log so you can quest>the game with characters writers interesting characters and doesnt randomly kill them off in a pool of zanzibar Nor that the entire game is just a killing npc simulator that goes on for way too long.
>>735077560>journalists loved itautomatically shit game
>>735077560It's the fantasy GOAT of the 2020sIts success and quality gives all the right people ass cancer
>>735077560the greatest game ever made, and the best proof of this is the tortranic shazamsissies that are still completely mindbroken about it to this day
>>735077560Chronically overrated, bloated mess. Could easily cut 2/3 of the "content" and you'd still get repeat encounters.
>>735080846>Complains about the quality of writing in one of the best written games in years>Can't type a sentence to save his lifelmao. Go back to Skyrim, you subhuman trash
>>735077560it was aight but the main reason I play these games which is the pvp fucking sucks here so it automatically sucks
>>735081108I assume this is some AI shitpost bot
>>735081223Sadly you are correct, PvP was pure garbage.
>>735081236LLMs are useless dogshit, but usually have no issue writing gramatically correct sentences
>>735077560Short answer: It was fun.Long answer: Fun, but its the near identical iteration theyve been doing for one and a half decade. As I predicted not even From could make an open world fun and offers fast travel and mount within the first hour so you too can speed past the empty fields. Bosses seem difficult, but really its another souls game: summon, magic or just blocking solves everything. My biggest personal gripe is the almost non-existent level design. Very rarely does it offer winding paths or the surprise of finding a shortcut. The snack sized dungeons filled with imps got old fast and remember to have a cradting system since you’re AAA now. Formulaic and nonsensical.
>>735081223>>735081268Elden Ring is the first From souls game to have actually good PVP. The only other one that comes close is DS2
>>735081271It just keeps going4chan needs to implement accs with id verification
>>735077560One of the best games of the last decade
>>735081223>>735081268My main gripe was that it basically didn't exist unless you looked up how to opt in.I played in on launch. I expected to run across random invaders along the way.It never happened because I had to do a thing to even get on the "invasion candidate" list.I don't even remember what it was at the time, I think you needed to have summoned help to be eligible for invasions.
>>735081326Sorry dawg but you are delusional.PvP invasions were dead because red-man-bad so you only faced gank-squads and duels were also pure cancer.
>>735081276>My biggest personal gripe is the almost non-existent level design. Elden Ring's levels are the best in the genre. Even the later chalice dungeons are more interesting than the PS3 games you suck off. MUH FUGGIN PARISH ELEVATOR is not actually that impressive to anyone who isn't 12 years old.
>>735077560open world is shitlegacy dungeons are just okaybase bosses are mostly fine, but a bit spasticDLC is a mess, skibidi fragments are a shitty band-aid for an inherent design flaw caused by the open world levelingDLC bosses are even more spastic, and I'm legitimately concerned about how they can possibly get worse in the next iteration
I enjoy it and it's a lot of fun, but between nightreign and overhaul mods the vanilla game's flaws have become more apparent since launch.
>>735077560really good game for one playthrough
>>735081339Oh, you meant me, not the post asking for a quest log? Kill yourself.
>>735081476Parish elevator from Dark Souls 1 is just a normal elevator in Elden RingSiofra elevator goes way harder
>>735081469Elden Ring is the first From game since DS2 where people actually use the arena. Also while getting rid of solo invasions WAS lame, at least in elden ring, unlike DS3, you have tools strong enough to let you just fucking kill people, rather than having to atrit away their whole estus flask
>>735080525>>735080525>It's a legit masterpiece. >That doesn't mean it's without flawAnon...
>>735081326>no solo host invasions unless they opt in>almost no downscaling on overleveled summons>only 4 people max>no covenantsand that’s just the shit I remember before I quit the game 3 years ago. I can only imagine how much worse it got with the dlc. you are objectively wrong but good effort
>>735081748>masterpiece = no measurable flawsGenuine autism take. You don't even get the fundamentals of human expression.
It kinda feels they did the thing with challenging npc fights in game 1 and they just keep doing same thing over and overWhat was the open world used in ER? To give you the same thing from game 1 except the problems open world creates wasnt solved and it makes the experience less coherent than game 1
>>735081768There is PVP other than invasions>almost no downscaling on overleveled summonsExtremely untrue>no covenantsThey were always shitElden Ring also has something none of the previous games did: it's actually pretty fucking balanced
>>735080846It’s working as intended and all you mentioned is a feature not a flaw.
Good, but also open world slop and I hope they stop doing it.
>>735082241its an intentional 7/10
>>735082401>slopYou are a tranny
>>735081824No, it's called being a consumer with no standards. Else ring is THE mid game.
>>735081997>There is PVP other than invasionsthe arena is boring as fuck why would I ever play there if I wanted a challenge and to use my brain>Extremely untrueso there was a patch released where a level 400 phantom wouldn’t one shot you if you were doing low level invasions?>They were always shitokay so you’re just baiting>Elden Ring also has something none of the previous games did: it's actually pretty fucking balancedunless the patches have magically fixed the huge issues from 3 years ago, all I have to say is lol lmao even
>>735077560Best game of the last 10 years. DLC is sadly underrated due to a influx of casuals.
>>735077560I'm doing a second playthrough right now.I was worried I might have to force myself to do random optional content like the chalice dungeons to stay on level, but just following NPC quests has you hitting pretty much everything major, so I've been pleasantly surprised at how relatively painless it's been.I do still feel like it's obnoxiously overtuned in a lot of places, though. Getting two-tapped by a giant rat because I dared to have only 30 VIG in Caelid is stupid. Some of the cartoonishly spastic combos on random enemies like the avionette soldiers are stupid. Having high poise armor and still getting poked out of attacks by a stiff breeze is stupid. I'm not even into the mountaintops yet so the worst is still yet to come.
>>735081434you can use taunter's tongue to be eligible for solo invasions, but most badredsissies sever out immediately if they know you want a fight
>>735083494Yeah I remembered there was some way, but my main gripe was that it was opt-in to begin with. In all Souls games invaders were just an organic side-thing when you played the game, you didn't have to do anything extra. In ER I felt robbed of it, and I don't accept "you should have read the wiki day 1" as an excuse.
>playing Elden Ring Reforged>Melina says she'll take me to Roundtable Hold but she's just a voice in my head for a minuteKinda poetic actually
>>735077560I'm enjoyed playing it but wouldn't do it again
>>735083705Oh, I agree. I did the same thing as you where I expected random invaders during my journey. After like 40 hours of gameplay with no invasions, I finally looked it up and was very disappointed.
>>735082650>so there was a patch released where a level 400 phantom wouldn’t one shot you if you were doing low level invasions?You can get one shot by a level 20 phantom if you're doing low level invasions and they're specced for it. In fact it's EASIER that way, because a high level phantom has neutered damage>okay so you’re just baitingNo, covenants were always a pointless abstraction to lock a few unlocks behind multiplayer grinding. There was only ever one interesting covenant and it didn't even fucking work >unless the patches have magically fixed the huge issues from 3 years agoThere were never huge issues, but what issues exusted have generally been fixed, yes
it's a great game but something needs to be done on FS next game regarding the iframe galore
>>735077560It is good for making shields actually a net benefit to invest in using.
>>735080270The DLC having a few good tracks doesn't fix that the base game is 100 hours of phoned in musical junk. I have no idea how they dropped the ball so hard on that.
>>735078502>>level scaling is all over the place which trivializes early areas if you don't do everything in the secret intended orderI think the only time I felt this was Morgott. If you beat Radahn and Rykard before him, he just isn't powerful enough for the bossfight to be fun. But the other way, if you rush Morgott, you will be too weak for the Mountaintops, so you'll have to turn back for Radahn and Rykard anyhow.
>>735080846>>game explains its mechanics so the player can make informed decisions and enjoy the gameElden Ring definitely could have used a better tutorial, but its better than previous games in that there's no trick stat that if you invest in you'll waste hours of lifespan for no gain.
>>735077560Me personally? I feel like Souls were never difficult games and always used that as marketing hype. The games were about 'what' you did more so than 'how' you played.Then Elden Ring happened and it was actually hard. But for some reason people didn't care at this point and it sold millions.
>>735081276Level design peaks at the start and the end of the game. Stormveil and the Haligtree are the best parts of the game, in my mind. Honestly I don't like Leyndell that much. Too big for not enough good loot, imo. There's a lot of the area that I just don't have any reason to wander around in, because there's nothing really over there.
>>735077560A contender for game of the decade.
>>735081508The Skibidies are a good idea, but they're too well hidden IMO.
>>735081512Nightreign combat is definitely how Elden Ring combat should have been from the get-go.
She alone made every run worthwhile.
>>735077560Pretty fantastic experiencing it blind at release, and that's enough for it to be worth its price (not that I paid for it). It doesn't hold up very well to scrutiny on replays. Ironically I play Sekiro the most and ER the least even though on paper they should be reversed in terms of replay value.
>>735083221>Getting two-tapped by a giant rat because I dared to have only 30 VIG in Caelid is stupid.Getting two tapped is basically the standard for the entire game. Getting 60VIG for the endgame is just so that you go from losing 70% of your HP to only 40-50%You just have way less HP than earlier Souls games.
>>735083771Do all the added mechanics to Reforged actually change the gameplay enough to matter?Like is it worth playing for a different game experience, or is the META still doing jumping attacks with a colossal or whatever?
>>735077560It’s fun but I have zero interest in revisiting it after two play throughs.Not even the DLC got me to come back.
>>735087147Luirnia was the peak>beautiful locale >tons of content >many quests and secrets to discover >ranniEverything after fell flat
>>735088921It was a bit baffling that Hogwarts was almost all rooftops though.
>>735077560Open World ruins it.In pretty much all other aspects, it's better than DS3 in every way. But the Open World is utter dog shit on anything but your 1st playthrough.Of course, both are still shit compared to BB and DS1 who are still the GOATs.
>>735089056rooftops are easy to design
>>735088921I was underwhelmed with how they approached doing a Wizard Academy Map. Felt like there was way more potential to be mined than what we got.
>>735087672Reforged is really improved now. I think it's a great comeback and I'm glad I gave it another chance.Enemies actually cause status effects to you now (shamans put you to sleep with attacks, crabs encumber you with their bubbles, etc.)There are rune seals on each dungeonYou can craft rune arcsFortunesThere's a new boss blocking the Bridge of Sacrifice that I'm not a big fan of, but there's a tip that says you can kill him with a trick but idkI did start with a bad class that had chainmail and an axe which were both such useless gearThere's no new maps that I know of though. So it's more for vanilla players who just want reasons to use all the game mechanics.Mostly it's just a lot harder for me but that's cool I have to navigate the game differently.It's better than Garden of Eyes. Maybe not as good as Convergence but I like map changes.As for which builds are viable in Elden Ring, I think there are a lot. You don't need a Twitch streamer build.
>>735077560Best game ever made, hence why /v/ still has 24/7 seethe threads about it.
>>735077560I enjoyed it. Beat it 3 times got all the achievements.I can see why people dislike it compared to some of the other ones but having gotten max level at 1.5 runs the tough bosses are still tough when you have max hp, stamina and relevant weapon stats.
>>735090485Enemies also backstep the fuck out of your attacks. It's more than just giving them Shabriri's Woe so they're max aggressive but they're smarter. Or at least better at dodging.
>>735077560Wow holy heckerino the journalists said it. 40 different publications can't all be total bullshit.The year is 2026. If you want any more proof that the median age of /v/ is 14 then look no further. Or do and look at 50 other threads.
>>735077560The first problem with this game begins as soon as you leave the cave.I said "the problem". I mean several, and they're all huge problems that fundamentally make no sense and clash with the idea of a "Dark Souls" game.1. You're a nameless warrior who isn't special that no one gives a fuck about, but you're given a magic horse immediately out of the gate for no reason2. It's an open-world game but you immediately have a World of Warcraft mount that can haul ass and jump in mid-air. You can also teleport anywhere because why the fuck not. When you ask "why don't I just go anywhere I want at any time and run past the posses", the answer is that magic fog gates still exist. You also can't take the horse into a cave for no reason. The solution as to why you can't cheesily exploit the environment is giant cliffs that are a mile high wherever they need them3. It's an open world game where both enemies and resources continually respawn, so "healing" is now no longer limited to a bonfire. Your ability to be overpowered is now limited to your willingness to be boredWhen people list the things they like about this game they have a laundry list like "the graphics are nice" or "this one area is cool". The problem begins at concept and continues being a problem throughout the entire game because they literally don't appear to grasp that it's a problem.The most offensive thing a game can ever do is bore me and this game was the equivalent of walking out of a movie.I only have so much time on this planet and it wasn't worth my time to bing-bing wahoo this generic video game Dark Souls-flavored slop.
>>735090485Convergence is getting an update pretty soon by the way. Really big one. Might be worth coming back for.
>>735093840I will. I set up my mod folder so I can switch between each mod on the fly lol
>He's Rolie Polie Olie>He rolls a lot around>and in the land of swords and crowns>he just fucking rolls around>Rolie>Hooray>Polie >Hooray>And in the land of swords and crowns>he just fucking rolls around.
>>735077560great for a playthrough, but once you finish the capital the boss quality takes a fucking nosediveon repeat runs the open world starts hurting it because it just becomes a checklist to run through for whatever build you want
>>735096160Isn't it better because you can run past the enemies instead of having to fight through a corridor of forced encounters?
>>735090485>>735091608The enemy AI upgrades sound tight.
>>735093731Farming in any Souls game is only limited by patience.
