Why is it that video games have no real staying power? A game is played for a month to a couple of years and then disappears from the collective consciousness, while something like chess has a lot of staying power?Games like league of legends are more complex than chess, so don’t bring up complexity as an argument.
>>735077956Chess has cultural appeal. People feel smart when they play it.
Nothing has staying power with the Internet
>>735077956Chess's enduring appeal is in its high skill ceiling. You can play for your whole life and you'll never ever be better than a chess engine, so there's never a shortage of competition. Combine this with the fact that it's almost perfectly balanced, and players will stick with it.Video games like this also get played forever. Starcraft Brood War hasn't had a patch in like 25 years and still has great balance, and the skill ceiling is practically infinite.In fact patches are likely part of the problem, games that receive balance patches forever end up inevitably getting ruined by the developers. Whereas chess can never be ruined by a bad update.
>>735078046>Chess has cultural appeal. People feel smart when they play it.What a pseud thing to say
>>735078206I just understand people. People play chess for the same reason they watch Oscar nominations.
most games are shit, unlike webm related - the chess of videogames that never gets old
>>735077956>staying powerlike mario?
e4 or d4?
chess is dogshit shogi is better
>>735077956shitty bait, people still play tetris, think better next time
>>735077956Someone said chess is to repetitive for mental growth and not tiring enough for a sport
>>735077956>cool people>nycthey’re more tolerable than Californians but not by much
>>735078116The MOBA known as Starcraft is a solved game. Bring up a real RTS like Total Annihilation, built for men with chest hair.
What the fuck are you talking about, people still play games from the 80's & 90's all the time
>>735078251Or watch F1. They like the perception and prestige around it.
>>735078264depends which memorized opening you're tunnel visioning
>>735078258Everybody aimbots. Everybody wallhacks
Most board games also have no staying power. Chess is an exception
>>735078413What? Nobody watches motorsports to feel smart.
>>735078361but do they play them late at night in hipster wine bars?checkmate
>>735078452same thing with online chess
>game is played for a month to a couple of years and then disappears from the collective consciousnessNice bait thread OP. But yeah, nobody on Earth plays any retro games at all. Good call.
>>735078413nobody who likes actual motorsports likes f1 or nascar, it's all a rigged game showreal racist patricians enjoy FIA/IMSA GT racing
This thread is retarded.I'm watching AoE2, a 26 year-old RTS, being played at a high level for an audience of tens of thousands of people right now.
>>735077956Literal definition of Posers and trend chasers.They all decided to collectively play chess like sheep because its what trendy now.
>>735077956>collective consciousnessThere's not that many games that are part of that. I'd love to play go but it isn't part of the western consciousness. Vidya are even less in the collective, with few exceptions like Pong, Pac-Man or Tetris.
for me, it's Whiplash
>>735078450Tell me what happens in this clip>>735078671Rally is the true driving excellency test
>>735077956>no real staying powerThere's people playing Mario 64 to this fucking day
Chess was a nerd game until it got esports-ified and now it's cool
>>735078351i have seen this image more times than i have seen total annihilation gameplay
>>735078351>shit nobody cares about enthusiast
>>735078885>Rally is the true driving excellency testwrongrally involves no racecraft, it's skillful but ultimately just a time trial. rally racers who try to make it in pack racing disciplines always get bodied hard.endurance racing is the pinnacle of motorsport.
>>735077956Just imagine the thousands of other board games, ancient or otherwise, that people have forgotten about. Everyone in that image wouldn't bat an eye if you said you still played Mario 64.
>>735078960i imagine people play Tetris and Pong now adays too but thats kinda obscure
>>735077956Survivorship biasThere's thousands upon thousands of old physical tabletop games you have never and will never ever hear off
>>735079029I honestly think that guy got tanks dropped above his natural on Lost Temple and never recovered.
>>735078885>Tell me what happens in this clipCharlie whips out a strategy he learned from his tutor that was basically, “this is useless in 99.99% of scenarios and is essentially a troll move, because your opponent will assuredly see what you’re doing and counter it immediately unless he’s an absolutely retard.” Even the judges vocalize this.XCQ proceeds to then demonstrate what an absolute retard he is by falling for the trick, because he’s too focused on whatever the fuck he’s trying to set up.Game ends right away.
>>735078258I fucking hate 5vs5. I had the most fun with cs in 16vs16 chaos.
>>735080226>ye olde casuale
>>735077956tetris is timeless.
>>735077956Wu Tang Clan made chess cool and not just a thing nerds doNothing as cool as the Wu Tang Clan has happened to video games
>>735080396I played a wu tang fighting games on the ps1.
i have to say i find chess shallow and pedantic
counter-strike has been a competitive mainstay staying the same in the broad strokes for like 30 years, man
>>735078450that moist dude honestly looks like a midget when he moves from the cameralmao
>>735077956Video games require electricity and a lot of hardware.Simpler board games are directly playable without much effort or setup.
>>735079029Thats because TAfags play springshit these days, and its fucking embarass8ng to look at.
>>735079029it's just a schizo
>>735078046youre not wrong
>>735077956Performative faggots
>>735077956WOAH LITERALLY NO ONE IN NYC PLAYED CHESS BEFORE THIS SO AMAZEBALLS
>>735078258washed out looking garbage
>>735077956bc chess doesn't have gay character designs attached to it
>love strategy games>find chess deeply boringI have no desire to have to try and calculate where all the pieces can move to next turn and beyond, it isn't fun.
>>735077956if anyone goes into this place and asks them to play checkers before beating them at chess and then asking about checkers again you will see one of the rarest types of seething. you can thank me later.
>>735077956>a month to a couple yearsare you retarded by any chance?this is an obvious troll lolthat's how games were always played since the nintendo days.Only games you end up playing for years nonstop were old school mmorpgs for obvious reasons.
>>735077956I never got the appeal of chess. It always seemed people into chess were more into how smart it made them look, and if you say you don't care for it you might as well admit you suck crayons. The whole chess boxing gimmick is retarded too
>>735078046>People feel smart when they play it.Chess is cerebral and it gets you really high with adrenaline and dopamine.
>>735080226Bobby Fischer quotes are the best, a true american hero
>>735078885It's called a Scholar's Mate, a checkmate that can be done in a minimum of 4 moves, and is slightly more reliable than the basically complicit actions necessary by the opponent for the fastest checkmate.Maybe he had a tutor or some shit like the other anon said, but it's a simple move that one can figure out just by imagining the board for enough time. I personally discovered it on my own while taking a shit in between games in middleschool, then proceeded to use it on my amateur adult teacher opponent who had just recently learned the game and laughed like crazy when it worked.OP is just just some faggot's bot/fleshbot hired jeet, intentionally spamming the board with twittershit, however. The retarded twitternigger threads always stay up because the bots/jeets keep them bumped.
Lady on the left looks just like my dead mom. : (
>>735077956league of legends is checkersdota is chess
>>735077956>weisenthaljew.
>>735081979Same with any competitive game
>>735078258>RNG shooterMight as well go to the casino.
>>735078206He's not wrong. You definitely feel smarter than the dude across the table if you win
>>735077956Caring about whether a game you like is popular enough or not is very lame and gay
>>735078739Beautiful
>>735077956Companies don't give a shit about staying power.The game needs to either sell a bajillion dollar the first week or it's declared a flop and all the people that worked on it will be laid off.Nobody in that production chain gives a single fuck about making it memorable.
>>735077956None of those people look particularly cool.
>>735078258>sit at the best choke point and just gun people downLooks boring/ Needs to be more dynamic.
>>735078345This
>>735077956Because it’s the oldest game that isn’t shit you idiot. It’s like asking why no book in the past thousand years has the staying power of Bible. Chess isn’t even good anymore because every move has been studied to death and given some name by professional chess player. The fact that chess variations with different pieces are not more popular is proof that the only appeal it has is the fact that everyone knows about it, you can play it with old people and it has high skill ceiling.
>>735077956For me its riichi mahjong
>>735077956League of Legends is more popular than chess.
>>735084160league of legends is more popular than pretty much every hobby.
because video games are designed to be curated and guided experiences rather than simply games that are played by people.. notice how chess doesnt have a story or cutscenes or level design or anything. i know thats kind of a funny thing to point out, but what im trying to say is that there is a difference between a game and "a game with a lot of other stuff in it".the only games that really have staying power are the ones designed primarily as games to be played over and over rather than trying to be guided experiences or adventures...i think generally the longest lasting games are ones like solitaire, minesweeper, and also some inherently multiplayer ones. games that are designed to be multiplayer from the start often end up feeling more like actual games, which explains the popularity of esports
>>735077956I've only seen 2 kinds of people play chess or at least pretend to.>actual autists that have PHDs and like to play League of Legends as well on their "free time", meaning 1 hour a week maybe.>complete fucking retards whose personality revolves around the hobby they picked according to the current trends of where they are
>>735077956melee is the chess of vidya
>>735077956chess kinda sucks t b h
>>735077956>cool peoplePerformative males and foids will never be cool.
>>735077956I never think about chess until some pseud mentions it.
>>735077956>2026>not playing the superior form of chess, Shogi
>chess trannies angry for not getting attention
Chess has never recovered from thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RHLtx9r2LA
>>735077956Minecraft is also ethernal game.
>>735085632>chess >:(>chess (japan) :O
>>735085987actually i am pretty sure shogi is chineseNo, I won't fucking google it FUCK YOU
>>735077956>Why is it that video games have no real staying power?Video games are a luxury product. If you compare that to a wooden checkered board and a few wooden pieces, you're starting from the wrong premise altogether. You're also comparing a whole medium to a single game. Chess is just FOTM because another movie or TV show made a character who plays chess look cool or some influencer started playing because they collabed with another influencer whose job is to play games.
>>735085081>doesnt have a storyIt does, two armies fighting each other>level designIt does, it has an 8×8 grid game field
>>735078046Pretty much. Chess is a midwit thing people play to appear intelligent. All the truly smart people that play it are in agony when they do.
>>735085987Being able to redeploy captured pieces significantly increases game complexity. It's not just 1:1 moonrune chess. Not to mention the promotion paths for individual pieces.
>>735077956It's common to replay Cyberpunk for a thousand hours though.
>>735078876i remember getting a premade HP with whiplashshit was awesome
>>735078450That was the moment Nakamura realized what the fuck he really signed up for chasing online clout.
>>735084061>the oldest game that isn’t shit you idiotbackgammon would like a word, anon
>>735077956I hate chess.Stupid fucking game.
>the cool peopleI'm willing to bet they're not actually.cool at all.Going by the picture, it really doesn't look like it.
