Believe it or not, this is a cat
STOP RIGHT THERE.Would you like to make a deal?
>>735083481no, fuck off
>>735083481No, you're gonna jew me out of good shit.
Shimmer is a meme.Meteor shower is the best option because everything dies to fire in the crater.
zodiac is sexy
on a scale from 1 to chungus, how reddit is this game?
rollin'...
>>7350836133it's not reddit, it's newgrounds, but reddit stole a few things from NG so there's some things that you'll think are reddit
>>735083613It's edgy chungus. Hitler comes at you! But your cats smash his head, piss on the mess and have sex with it while Hitler wimpers!
I really really dislike the Impossible difficulty, especially the house fights.I get it, it's there to challenge people, add something and whatnot... but it's so tedious and the rewards are so not worth it.I wish there were more impossible rewards tied with each class, rather than just a generic "finish all impossible/crazy/hard modes of all zones with all classes".
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>735083968At least I don't live in a box, nigger
>Finally donate 100 cats to the Organ Grinder>Ok donate 150no fuck offsave editor time
>>735084151C H E W
>creator charms youok fuck you you cheap BITCHbringe cleanse and tinfoil hats next time...
>>735084151I did it legit but I honestly don't look down on people that use a save editor for it.250 dead cats is just retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrLuZ-ctH5M
>>735083481p-pwomise not to laugh at me uwu
>>735084805START DOING THIS!
>>735085127>screencapping his own post>phone posterdo marshmallowfags really?
>>735083563Shimmer is for getting mutations.Meteor shower is when you want an easy time.
a face only a mother could love
steven makes you wade through a pool of half shit to get the vurp god item at the very end
I really don't like the Creator mechanic where he copies your cats. It is basically a matter who goes first.You need some powerful cats to make it there and then you are getting punished for it. I want more inventory space though.
>>735085497does it actually work? there's a number of consumables that don't
how TUFF do you feel today on a scale of unga to bunga /v/
>>735085460I like her smug attitude
>>735085658Wait till you fight him on higher difficulties where he also copies your cats items and they have elite buffs. Good luck if you rely on projectiles because almost guaranteed one of them will have projectile reflect.
>>735085793yeah to be honest not gonna do thatI'm just going for 100% which hopefully doesn't include that.
>>735085787>I REALLY shouldn't fuck my grandson and pass on these defects>HOWEVER
>>735085658just don't build cats who can kill themselves in one turn?
>>735085658And yeah he just wiped my team who could take multiple turns and a scattershot bounce ranger.I got raped by my own team.
So how are you supposed to grind furniture besides just downloading a mod?I'm at 160 hours, nuked the creator but I'm still only at 20 Stimulation in my breeding room and the best cats in there only have two 7s.
>>735085915that sounds boring
>>735085884kek
>>735086000instantly bulldozing every encounter is boring
>>735085787Very based, thanks anonShe came from a very good mage so I still enjoy her and she will do very dirty things with her fellow teach siblings
>>735085658I've found it pretty reasonable the times I've been there.The AI doesn't really know which cats are high value targets, so I usually have my fastest cat hammer my slowest cat, so it doesn't even get a turn. Once the battle is 4 on 3 you can play a lot more loose.
>>735085665i'd have to actually get a vurp butcher first but i'll let you know when i eventually do
>>735086080na those grinding days are behind meI bred and fought for powerful cats so I want to live that power fantasyActually thats not even entirely too because I try to finish bosses with classes I haven't it down yes, so teams are less powerful than when I finished act3 for the first time(s)Still got graped
WhoopsieThis Hunter probably deserved this for making the Jurassic an absolute jokeBut do they really expect you to pull out a magnifying glass to see how many stacks the child has on its buff?
>>735083968>C:\Users\faggot\AppData\Roaming\Glaiel Games\Mewgenics\...\saves
>>735086345yeah like first few times it worked out very well for methis time not at all and my ranger survived with 1 hp just to be instantly killed by phase 2
>Lmao! 2gun!>2gun!!!
>>735086415Glad I'm not the only one who thought this.First time fighting him I just ignored the number entirely due to endorphins and not being able to see shit. I wasn't sure if it was my monitor or I'm just getting old but seriously I get wanting to have a big epic moment but I want to be able to effectively play the game.
Found the rare item that has no purpose. Alleged DLC bait.
>>735083481I've played for 150 hours and this man has not paid out once.Same with the genie event.I have only had one Puzzle Box success and it forces you into a fucking mini-boss fight
>>735083592Nah
>>735083690
>>735085960I gotta ask what you’re doing because I’ve had the occasional straight 7s since I was halfway through Act 2.
>>735086509Dual wielding
>>735086645That's just a free level-up for one of your cats. It's basically the best possible event in the game. As long as you don't get it while you're already struggling.
>Barely make it out of Pyrophina vs Zaratana after savescumming twiceJesus Christ I should have brought a Cleanse cleric. Lost two cats too, almost lost a third but he was just downed not pulverized. I wouldn't have savescummed if the fight wasn't time-gated. I already fucked up progression once by advancing to the Kaijus before Guillotina 3
>>735086883i am going to use a save editor to make him and give him eternal youth so he can hang around in my house
>>735086509>>735086883I still don't get why Gun exists and why you can control him
What's the fucking point why would I ever want to use this other than mini-mes or summon apprentice
>>735086987Chaos™
>>735086638Maybe there's a use for it in The End. Since in The End is Nigh you collect cartridges and use them on Ash's console.
>>735085960Stimulation matters less than you think. The most important part is gradually climbing yourself to more and more 7s. If you have the third house unlock, that makes a great targeted breeding room. It's much faster than putting all your good gened cats in one room and praying for the best.
>>735086996That is exactly why you would use it.
>>735086638>>735086996why are most of the "very rare" items complete garbage?
>>735086996necro gets a few different abilities that summon temp copies of itself
>>735083825Oh no not the poor heckin hitlerino
>>735084151It feels like the game was designed with the idea that each run would take as long as an Isaac one, when in reality even at fastest speed you're looking at an hour+. I'm on track to beat the game and I'm only at 17/50 for Frank's counter for the third house upgrade.
>>735087104They’re often gimmicky.You don’t want gimmicks to be in the common pool.
>>735087206I’m at like 87/100 and I haven’t been to the Future yet.But I do a whoooole lot of fucking around.
>GreatHunter and Cleric are top tier. Crazy damage. Amazing side-grades, great sustain. Hunter can do a Cleric jobs better since Cleric usually is bad against final boss.>GoodPsychic and Thief is situational and requires a team for support but is strong with a good team. Theif is good at critical damage, Psychic is great at debuffs and area denialFighter, Tank and Butcher are usually strong but require support when up against counters. Any Instant-Kill enemies will make them useless unless roided up.>EhTinkerer and Necromancer is too situational. Good for if you have armor or items to enable their playstyle but you're better off breeding their abilities onto another unit.Jester I feel is underrated, but its all RNG. You can get a god run or you can get garbage. Stick reroll mutations and items on them to build a fucking god cat.>BadMage is bad. The elemental match-ups are nice but it falls off extremely quick.>DunnoMonk is the only class i've not really played much with. They've got alot of good abilities but the armor gimmick is hit or miss.
Now I see the way of the mage
>Tinkerer passes Repair skill to his kittens>They have high luck and speed stats>Turn one of them into a thief and give it a shotgun>Learns the "teleport behind random enemies" skill and has two turns in round 1Jesus Christ that was a ridiculous run. It was almost a shame to waste it on Throbbing King Hard instead of Act 2 or 3.
>>735083513>>735083550Enjoy your next event with that cat being a "Tragedy"
>>735087384>Psychic with Soi Milk, Beckon, and Telekinesis I decide where everyone stands.Add Gravity Well for extra fun.
I can't believe Edmund Fucking McMillen has put a racial slur in my cat videogame.
>>735087504Tragedies are usually who-fuckin-cares.In related news No Thanks is the only correct answer for Itchies and Wheezies.
>>735087104"complete garbage"they're mostly gimmick items that are either worthless OR they let you pull off utterly insane gamebreaking shit
>>735087213>>735087839name 3 (THREE) actually useful very rare items
i opened a save editor because i already beat all the home defenses on impossible and did you know your profile cat has a name? mine is Freddy Jeff apparently
>>735087206i'm at like 90% in game, just beat the act 3 "true" final boss i exclusively play on 4x speed though my runs take like 30-60 minutes i'm at 17/100 for the last frank upgrade but i've never gone out of my farm to farm alley runs for him or anything
>>735087665Im kind of a retired myself
People who say tinker is shit don't play necro. Tinker has multiple one-hit wonder abilities/passives that are good on their own, necro literally does nothing without synergy.
>>735087384monk is the slut class to pass down passivesjester is feast or faminecollarless is surprisingly potentially amazing if you get shit like skill share + a cracked passive
>>735087950Rocket LauncherCap and BellsTrash Can
>>735087950bless halobloody razorcap and bellsclown makeupdybbuks ribeye of godflesh kidgolden pickaxeninny stickrevolverrufflesoul jarstarseveral steven items"stunning" items
>>735087950Bull skull gives any cat the tank attack, great for collarless.
>>735088263>Rocket Launcher5 uses, only 10 dmg. Mediocre unless you get it as a Tinkerer or have a means to repair it>Cap and Bellsyeah it's pretty good tbf>Trash Canhaven't had this yet
>>735087992This, at least the Tinkerers stupid shit is fun to fuck around with, the Necro on a dead roll just walks forward 6 tiles and maybe shoots out a shitty 3 damage basic
>>735083419Which one is better to farm rare furniture? I heard going Act2 bunker give you a rare furniture piece but not always, it the future a better place? These ones are supposed to always be a rare furniture
>>735088491Yeah, I combined the RL with Tinker Tools and caveman eyebrows to have a Collarless cat who carried the whole run.
>>735088549>what's better, 50% or 100%?gee anon
>>735088549Correct.But the best way to farm is technically getting 500 injured cats and throwing them at Jack, so his shop starts selling ~3/week. Must faster than a two-zone run for one.
>Harpoon + Sniper Rifle + Metal Coat>Harpoon causes Sniper Rifle to trigger any time anything moves>Metal Coat means infinite Sniper rounds>Effortlessly killing everything that moves>Bosses easily out ranged and taken care of>The Creator copies move first, killing all my catsIts like even when I win, I lose...
>>735087965Is Frank the only pure good npc?>Butch trains cats to rob old people>Tink is a petty bitch who took a shit on his neighbors place because he was angry at him>Jack is a sadistic gremlin>Tracy happily takes donations and speaks propaganda for a corporation that turns cats into mystery meat>Dr. BeaniesFeels like hes the only one who hasnt done anything morally questionable
>>735088740He does puppet around corpses, but they’re already dead so…
>>735087104They're designed to work with one specific mechanic or interaction. In this case, Edmund realized that you sometimes have disposable clones of your cats who have worse stats. So he designed an item that exists solely to be a payoff if you're clever enough to realize certain builds can get 100 free damage on bosses.Except it doesn't really work, because it's almost always better to use the extra movement and attack turns on your duplicate cats instead of wasting them to deal damage once.Edmund designs and balances his games around individual interactions he thinks are fun. Second order interactions and consistency play almost no role. Those second order interactions Isaac and Mewgenics are known for only come about because playtesting leads to "Shouldn't it work this way?" situations that only get addressed as a matter of polish. Flash Isaac almost never worked that way.Pyromaniac in Isaac was added mostly to make Kamikaze and other bomb items "broken." The idea was that you'd get both on a run, because Pyromaniac is rare, and Kamikaze is extremely common, and use them together to be functionally invincible while you kill everything with infinite bombs.But no one ever picked up Kamikaze, it'd show up on early floors, they'd pick it up and put it down so it'd get out of the pool, and if they found Pyromaniac later, it didn't matter, because bomb damage is underwhelming compared to an effective build.
>>735088696I would have guessed the AI cats would move first and then die to the reactive shot. Good on them.Also Harpooner actions don't exhaust rounds so you didn't need the coat :^)
I've gotten fuckall mutation furniture. The only way is if I'm lucky with an event, or specifically go to the crater to force shimmer.
>>735087950Child of the Glowing One teaches you how to play the game (Going in and then moving out)
>>735088968Finish the game my dude.
>>735086564cats arent real
>>735088696I'm pretty sure auto shooting from harpoon doesn't use ammoAlso in that fight I think you are double fucked since they count as bosses and you do not, should have took off the ordinance
>fighter running around bitchslapping things for 60 damage with basic attacks, repositioning with berserk>hunter that got charmed and killed my druid and necro>druid that applied random debuffs with attacks and buff minions>necro that spawned minions basically fighter hard carried this annoying fight>sub 1%people are struggling this much to beat the game?
>>735089026i realized what you meant like 2 seconds after sending. oopsie
>>735088740I'm pretty sure nobody is "good" in this game. Frank seems like a kind soul but bad in the head. It wouldn't be surprising to learn that he probably does bad things without self-awareness.
Shout out to the pick axe that can destroy Hitler 2's dead body in a single hit and can also destroy the bloat's eyes.
>>735089084Anon the game takes forever to beatThe act 3 stretch if you are managing a lot of cats takes a fucking long time
>>735089141i'm pretty sure the worst thing i've read frank do is "chase around cats" but it was framed in a way that sounded like they were playing so at worst he was just annoying them like a kid wouldalso in the final scene of the game rats mourn him when he "dies", which could imply animals have a fondness for him which implies he's prolly not bad
>edmund says Deja Vu is fine because you have full control over it (aka savescum)>random even>oopsie woopsie your cat got Deja Vu!LIES IT'S ALL LIES
>>73508908487% of players have cleared Alley
>>735089141>>735089374He does some things that would be considered gross, though they don’t harm anyone. Except maybe himself.He’s easily the nicest character and he’s also not a human. Funny how that works.>>735089280I really gotta stop doing runs every in-game day but I have TOO MANY CATS MAN.
>>735089387>13% of mewgenicists can't get past the alleyeh
This the game with the rape cat? How much of it is there? I'm thinking of getting the game soon.
>>735087384Cleric is only good, the only other Great class is druid
>>735089452People buy games. That doesn't mean they play them right away
>>735086645that's kind of the whole point of the "don't do deals with the devil" thing
>>735086869I think I'm just pretty good at the strategy RPG part(hundreds of hours in Disgaea and a decent understanding of MTG combos) and too lazy when it comes to the breeding part.When breeding I put the good kittens back in the orgy room and I play the game with the ones that aren't completely horrible. I think a lot of people on here just trash any cats that aren't adequate and play using the good ones but I enjoy playing the game without complete optimization. >>735087042Yeah, I've got that room. I guess I should get a stack of food and try to micromanage it a bit instead of just using the orgy room. Probably been about 50 hours since I last did that to get this mutation on all of my cats.
>>735089428>and he’s also not a human. Funny how that works.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU8coyQaGT8&t=3572s
>1.8%Explain yourselves.
>>735083419Are there any people working on a mod for this game to make it look like not complete ass?I get intentionally going for an "ugly" style but this game just goes about it so lazily and half-assed.
>>735087504Oh no!My cat will either>cry about his mother>get an injury>get scared>some other bullshitOr alternatively>lose HP>fucking die>get some bullshit cursesI'll take the tragedy.
>>735089578corpses from my fight pit have got to go somewherei'd much rather grind them down and turn them into food for my other cats instead
>>735089506Half the Druid's abilities and passives are megaduds. I don’t understand what people see in them for consistency.Usually just ends up being a birdbot.
>>735089578Farming corpses is piss easy.
>>735089578When you play the game, you sometimes wipe and the cats get sent to the mystery man. Your cats don't live forever and if one has mutations/abilities you want to maximize for offspring to get, you don't donate the cat but instead squeeze last bit of kittens it can produce even when it has grown old. Also you have the fighting room that procs fights. Winner of the fights get stat ups and might earn a place in expedition, the loser either suffers injury (donate to the furniture kid) or dies (donate to mystery man)Cats dying is natural part of the game
>>735089591I thought the same when Isaac released and years later there isn't any solution unless you consider the titty mod to be a solution.I just got desensitized to it cause the gameplay was so good. Still feels awkward trying to show the game to anyone though.
>>735089653>I don’t understand what people see in them for consistency.6 mana instant killshalf the map wide aoe basic attacks applying soul link and other debuffs to enemiesslutmaxxxing to pass down wolf form to monks
Is this game worth the stupid steaknigger price tag
>baby rat event>10 strength>OH NO YOUR CAT LOST 99% of its HPBullshit, am I going insane or does this game fucks you up for no reason if you finish fights too fast too often? Because I was doing amazing ending fights in 1 turn or even 0 turns thanks to ambushes.
>>735089653Druid is balanced because of the crow, to be honest.You get a free strong summon that has its own mana pool and takes hits for you.The fact most of druid abilities are kind of shit balances it out... but then again, you have shit like heavy metal and wolf form, so it can actually work out.
>>735089761>>735089769that doesn't explain why it's at 1.8%
>>735089653It's only like a quarter bad skills, while the rest of their skills are run-carrying with minimal synergy.>birdbotThat's a funny way of saying "it comes with a free Tank that has innate hardy, toad style, a ranged repositioning skill and a mobility skill, is immune to injuries and can happily distract insta-kill enemies for 0 downside".
>>735089845I have 160 hours and it haunts my dreams when I'm not playing it. So maybe.Pirate it and find out.
>>735089856Yes. If you're doing well, the events get stacked against you. If you're struggling, the events get stacked in your favor.
>>735089845I have 400h in Mewgenics. I have 3000h in Isaac
>>735089856Should have took the devil deal
>>735089918I don't understand if you're saying it's too low or too high.
>>735089578>>735089918No idea whether you're saying this is a high percentage or a low percentage. Normal people aren't getting this.Shit players might get this.100%fags with a fight pit are getting this.
>>735089818>>735089864Well maybe if I ever saw those I might have a different view of them, but every time it’s >spawn grass>spawn flowers>push everyone 1 tile>plant a mushroom with 1 HP that gives units near it 1 mana per round>Form of the Not Squirrel/Wolf>kill one of your familiars to make some tile hazards
In the bunker(way down in the bunker)
>>735089918Some players want to maximize donations, some people aboid cats dying. Some people have enough time to do 5 runs a day, some people only get to play once or twice a week
holy shit, luck might be overpowered, free crits and better events, I had a few cats under 5 luck but each level up I got luck and it was night and day
>>735089794Thing is with Isaac it wasn't nearly that bad. All the different things you could get there mostly fit and didn't look terribly out of place.With Mewgenics it feels like Edmund just gave up and just lets the game slap together random shapes and call it a day.
>>735090131>run 4 druids through the alley>keep the ones with good skills for breeding>pipe the rest>your kittens now have the good druid skills from the get go and druids are now unbrickedevery single complaint and problem people have in this game is solved by having your cats fuck and culling undesirablesit's called mewgenics, the eugenics is core gameplay
>>735089591What's ugly about it?
>>735090183Yep, luck is excellent. Never dump luck.
>>735090186Mewgenics backgrounds and boss animations shits all over Isaac's.
>>735089653the crow is exactly why it's so consistenthaving a strong familiar that can just absorb damage for you, whp deals good damage and comes with a good movement and knockback ability as baseline is insanely strong, i would argue that it's the best class at level 1 with no abilities besides butcher
>>735090243To be fair, have you seen some of the monstrosities people call cats in these threads?
>>735090001>and it haunts my dreams when I'm not playing it.yeah, me too. i'm having dreams about the fights and hearing Eating Rats on repeat, they're not even interesting dreams i just see my cats punching glass spitters or chub or something
>>735090131The fucking mushroom manI took it and I was offended >1 tile deploy>1 mana>1 turnIt has to be the weakest ability in the game
>>735090330I mean I can just bring a mage to do the same thing as the crow.Nope, just kidding not even I believe that hahahahaha.
>>735089578feels good being part of the 98%
>>735090369It’s funny because the Druid has another ability that costs the same amount of mana and just GIVES 5 mana to allies in a small area.Like cmon man.
>>735090336That's one tiny aspect of the game and only happens if you minmax the mutations. Anon said the game looked, and I quote, "complete ass".
>>735090243The cat sprites.>>735090312I'd be surprised and insulted if it didn't. He's had over 10 years of experience working since then and is charging more for this game too.
>collarless cat>once per battle 10 damage at 7 mana, infinite range>cool>passive collarless ability, every once per battle is once per turn now>holy>upgrade the spell, not it's 10 damage at 0 mana, every turnIt wasn't broken or anything but helped end fights or deal with annoying enemies. Pretty fun.
>>735090593Oh I see, so it's just the player cats you're anal about and not the entire game like you implied.
>>735090569It does.
>>735090696this looks totally fine to meyou what game actually looks like complete ass? cruelty squad
>>735090696That looks fine. Better than any screen you can in Isaac that's for sure.
Necromancer needs a buff. It has some good highrolls but its basekit and spells are too anti-synergistic (Why does this class have zombie generation, leech and selfdown archetypes?)Every other class is fine.
>>735090593how dare you call my cats ugly
>>735089856If you playing in higher difficulties, you have harsher odds in events so it might be that
only post the cutest cats!
>>735090760which cats are girls, I'll draw gijinka of them
>>735090848lucy, maisie, marshmallow, moana, lucy
>>735089856Rng runs seed logic sometimes you will just get fails or successes no matter the stat because the rng number was a highroll
>>735090803we do not want drawfagging here cuz that ruined isaac threads
>>735090634Collarless has some of the best passives around. It’s just hard to get them in the right place at the right time.>Fast Footsies>Mini Me>Unscarred>Skill Share
>>735090848>>735090912>Forgetting Alice
>>735090760Honest to God, i have never met the Fighter one in 128 hours, what does it do?
>>735090940shut up
>>735090970chain dash
>>735090970he has dashing chain attacks like the lab rats
>>735090940No, schizos ruined isaac threads.
>>735090940Tranny apologists ruined Isaac threads, not drawfags.
>>735090968i accidentally said lucy twice instead of alice
>>735090940I don't tink we gor any tranny OCs like Isaac so far
>>735090741>cruelty squadNot a fair comparison. Cruelty Squad has logic and effort put into its design.
>>735091025that's what I said cuz that one boss got so much attention and it was gooner ass drawings of that
>>735091084and it looks fucking fucking dogshit assit's offensive to my eyesit looks hideous it is visually unappealing meanwhile mewgenics looks fineno complaints with it
>>735086987gun is what chaos is shooting bullets at you withthe bullets are maggots
>>735091168One of these is trying to look like that though. The other just does it incidentally.
Never go through the caves on a Collarless run, understood.
>>735090940Fine, I'll scratch my drawing of Zodiac getting it on with Marshmallow
>>735090829mine are all chimeric freaks at this point but i'm still trying to preserve their charm somewhat
>>735084710>Stop playing!>No you're playing wrong!I haven't played his game, why is stayvun so anti-gamer?
>>735091428he's an annoying little cunt
>>735086996>Why would I ever want to use this other than [reasons to use it]?
>>735089591Funny, I'm asking the same thing about slay the spire
>>735091305>he doesn't want free split the atomLuck issue.
>all those events you can actually locked yourself forever for making ONE bad choice ONCEHahahaha but it's like old neckbeard mtg, just chew the steak
>>735091501Yeah after free disorders maybe.
>>735089084I only bumped up the combat speed to 2 at 80 hours in, and now 3 at 130still haven't unlocked the infinite because I flubbed the first c-10000 encounter and started summoning act 1 hard/crazy bosses instead of waiting to rematch
>>735091305It's funny because the boneyard unlock is fucking nuts
Butcher's bowling ability is so fucking fun to use. I wish I got that every run.
>>735091623just breed into your genepool
>Start a run last night with the intent on either doing Act 1 hard mode Throbbing King or Act 3 Prehistoric - but quit in the item selection because sleepy>load it up and outfit my cats today.>For some reason just click Act 2Fuck my motherfucking life. I’ve already done full chaos here FUCK. What a fucking waste of good items and cats FUCK AAAAAAAAAA
>>735089525it only counts against the total if they launch the game first, so they launched the game but quit before beating the alley
>>735083825>>735083613>on a scale from 1 to chungus>It's edgy chungus.The game is like a giant gross-out cartoon mixed with ugly cute Sanrio knock-offs. You guys can be a little more descriptive beyond chungus, c'mon.
>anons SEXOing fenrir as soon as someone implies they might have eyelashes (therefore female) in last threadwould you fucks lust over trampy if they were a girl, too
>DERP
>>735091496>slay the spireYes. Second game does look better though.
>>735091770based retard
>>735091225>the other just does it incidentallyEdmund's art is all intentionally crude. It's his style. He's the newgrounds dead baby dress up guy, Mewgenics isn't trying to be pristine. TBoI wasn't a game that accidentally had gore & piss & shit everywhere, these are all intentional design decisions because it's what the guy likes
>>735091692I’ve loaded backups over this.>have a team ready for a side quest >forget to actually equip the damn side quest item
>>735083613it's quirky but not quirk chungusif you don't understand the difference you're probably too immersed in the culture to even perceive it
>>735091770Wait, you can get different descriptions based on attributes?
>>735091623Every single time I try it out the way the cats spawn make it useless during turn 1 and Butcher moves last so it would only be useful near the end of turn 2(the fight should already be close to over by then)
>>735091770I once got a cat that had -8 int from a brain eating amoeba.He won the run and lived a happy life where he eventually died of old age surrounded by his loved ones.
>>735091767Where are these anons you speak of?
>>735091767>female trampyimagine the SMELL
>>735091767>trampy if they were a girlI got news to you anon... 3-color cats are always girls.
>>735091692just do a quick lil' Crater run for Shimmer, or a Bunker + Core run for rare furniture
>>735091894Just Int. If it’s at 0 or less you get bunga text.
>>735091857>>735091920It actually has Brain Dead, he was really Tardmaxxing and hitting like a truck
>>735091767>trampy if she girlhell yeah i would
>>735091985I still have not once been offered Shimmer.
>>735091992tardmaxxed fighter is beyond basedmy downies always get selected as the fighting GOD
>>735091767>he doesn't know people on the internet love stinky girlfailures
>>735092098There are 6 options in the pool, it's a 50/50 chanceAlso on a related note, whatever you pick gets unlocked as a weather option that can appear randomly in any runs, if you don't ever pick alien eggs, you will never see them
>>735091647>just sneed it into your chuckpoolnot everyone here has 100 stim buddy
>>735091962Trampy seems like he'd be the super rare exception to this because he's such a spectacular failure of a cat
>Sentry Mode ability is amazing>Tower Defense passive is dogshit that will make life harder for you countless times
>>735091962Isn't Fenrir tricolor (all greens)
>>735092402tower defense + turns it from 1 damage into your "basic attack" so it's effectively sentry mode + for free and always active
>>735091962>alwaysErm ACTUALLY very very rarely they can be males, owning to a genetic disorder.Which would mean Trampy has genetic problems and is sterile
trampy deserves petting and a can of tuna and a __bath__
>>735090940speak for yourself nigger
>random event gives this to my clericfuck off Edmund
>>735091962I thought he was only one color and everything else was just dirt, grime and muck
>>735092793Get cleanse+ and that’s a free win
>>735092481Yeah but you’re usually not getting that until the very end of an Act 4 run unless you’re packing a neverstone.And its un-upgraded form will be annoying you constantly up to that point.
>>735092481the only time the passive gave me issue was when I also had the wizard electricity passive for hitler 3needless to say I died
>>735092793I got this when I was doing a Cap And Bells + Tool Box Revolver run on my Thief. I still won but fuck, it's annoying
>>735092793I don't think I have ever seen it give it or similar things to a damage cat, your slight upside is also a downside have fun
>>735090848>gijinka>what if x was an anime bitch with huge balloon tits like a sexdoll!this type of fanart sucks ass
>>735092474Fenrir being a qt girl is already common sense
>>735092793>>735092931I got something like that on my Druid once.So of course I just murdered the druid and did the run with three cats.
>>735093138my cute dumb survivalist cat(she keeps walking into her own traps)
>>735093134no it's great
>>735093134>>735093138fenrir as a hot soldier girl a la metal slug would be tits
>>735093306
>>735093306>>735093450
>>735093450Just take Tricky Traps+ already you dummy.
OK but for what reason do Fenrir's traps become invisible
>>735093630because your traps are technically invisible to enemies
>>735093630All enemy traps do because fuck you. Enemies will still path around yours if they can though.t. had my Hunter get charmed
>>735093709They are not. Enemies path like your units do, i.e. they will avoid your traps unless they cannot make it to their intended destination without going through them.
>>735091952WHERE'S THAT SMELL COMING FROM?
>>735087384tinkerer is better than necro. make tech 1 the base level and he's good.
>>735093197druid's autoattack is busted for applying debuffs retard, it's one of the strongest builds for it.
Should I send him in?
>>735093913Cumbucket Kitty
>>735092172A troon typed this post.
>>735091767It's not that different
see drawfags and gooners ruin everything, gatekeep
>>735094341No you think a "troon" did because you're brainrotted by /pol/ and think everyone you don't like is a tranny.
>>735083419I love getting the mutation house items, it makes it more fun when they all start mutating out of control
>>735094421Jack won't give me jackshit for mutations
>>735094280Yeah. If you have Versatile Vocalist.
>>735094398Only trannies use the word girlfailure dude. You think actual girls do that and act like that?
>Fog event in future>Hitler misses himself and instantly explodesnice...
>>735094421>4 mutations all negativeOof.
>>735094551i'm a man thoughi have a penis that i was born with"girlfailure" is just a trope archetype>just say neet or x other word not that same
>>735094391gooner CHADS only improve anything they touch
>>735094551its a character archetype you autistits like saying anyone who likes tsunderes is a tranny because they don't really existthe train of logic is totally busted
>>735091767I mean in the trailer Butch throws one of her/his bastards at Tina. The main cat itself might not be an option but the daughters are waiting in trash cans
>>735083896>"Challenge" in a turn-based rpgIt's just a numbers game where the only skill you need is the patience to build numbers that work in your favor and maybe some luck
>>735083690what's his end game bros?
>eternal youth>but it's a baby so it can't be used for breedingThat's stupid, it could've been a fun reward for a very unlikely event.
>>735094894>LETS GO GAMBLINGThat’s it
Need console release nyaow
>>735094929Sorry bucko, can't be having rewards be too good
>>735083690>0worse than useless
>>735094929It’s the rare "bad" outcome.They provide house stats though.
>>735094929It's a space-free furniture bro.
>>735094929>cant take on adventures>cant breedis the cat just bricked?
>>735094894getting three sixs in a row and showing his real form
>>735089084Post game hours you fucking retardThat's literally the only metric you can judge anyone on in a spreadsheet simulator as long as they have normal IQ
>>735094894considering he's such a fat fuck probably just getting another can of tuna
>>735095139
I'm afraid to start the game because it seems like a really long commitment
>>735092402>get party detonator quest to go to the graveyard, the only area where you are required to down a cat pretty much>have to down the one with the party detonator Fuck my nigger life
Post things that game throws at you when it feels like you're chewing the steak a little too fast.
>>735095315>you have blood frenzy now lmao
>>735095230If you can pick up an old retired cat to fight house bosses, then you can close the game during a run and come back later to finish it.It's the same thing as catching up with whatever the cats have and playing with them.
>>735089560I just one shot my first Act 1 hard mode on a whim using substandard cats and a few low rarity items with tinkerer, psychic, thief, and jester taking them through the graveyard for their marks Granted it took over 3 hours because I'm very careful, but you really don't need autistically bred cats to be successful for most of this game.People over here with 200+ hours acting like they are geniuses at punching in numbers on a spreadsheet
Rate my steak
>>735089918Because most people are playing the game organically and not like some turbo autistThat's a lot of failed runs for even below average players in such a short amount of time
>>735094280>autoattackI want league players to leave.
>>735095580What next, you'll say most people haven't beaten act 3 yet either? Please
I can't take the transmitter antenna to the End. I just can't do it. Fantastic game but I'm too stupid for this. My cats have innate multihit and still can barely survive against The End, I always lose a cat to the Bloat, and then I don't have enough DPS for Mother because I'm spending my turns wrestling out of her grip because my Ranger or Monk just got poked to death and can't help me free my cats.>skill issueYes.
>>735095580>Because most people are playing the game organically and not like some turbo autistBeing a turbo autist IS organic for me
>>735095824I was like you. Convinced I couldn't do it. But I did it.
>>735095183Congrats I guess you are good at spreadsheetin
>>735095824>monkMonk relies on combos, don't use them.You either use characters with high INT so they can spam random spells or characters with strong basic attacks(fighter/butcher/ranger/druid)
>have a few runs in a row that I need to end early because of terrible synergy>finally get an awesome run going>next two events are parasite that gives 99 confusion and blood frenzyt-thanks ed
>>735095230You have Dead God in Isaac, right?
>>735095062>>735095117>get one>put it in my best room for free stats>it gets healed and removes the traitThank you Steakmund
>>735096110This is such a different game on the fundamental level people really need to stop comparing them other than the lore
>>735096082I got a blood frenzied Fighter on a recent side quest and still managed to pull it off.And now I have a blood frenzy cat for breeding to get up to no good with!
>>735095994How?>>735096065I tried Monk since a lot of my cats have the 100% hit/25% crit Hunter passive and he already comes with multihit, to help me sweep up the Future. That was easy. But it fails miserably against Mother. My ranger was even more useless.
>>735096193How much Health did that room have?It seems like disorders never get cured until a certain threshold.
Moon isn't that hard of a stage, but that singular fight with shitload of different alien enemies and two stars at the middle of map makes me hate it as much as Crater and *almost* as much as the Lab.One with a bunch of flying saucers is kinda bullshit too, but at least you can knock them into one another.
>repair+>states that it repairs ALL uses>only increases feather darts by 10steakmund, where the sauce
I got Barbed Necklace and Barbed MaskI assume there's a Barbed HatDoes anything happen if I have all 3?
>>735096223Sit down. Play the game.Not that different.
>>735096478yes
>>735096371I was having my pigmy cats getting healed with above 10 health, after suggestion of some anons I got health under 10 and ended up not having anymore healings.So I'm guessing 10 or close to it.
got blood frenzy on the guy with the tinfoil hat, ama
>Mutation: Basic attack is gravity element>Wither: Gravity element ABILITIES inflict a random negative status when used on enemiesErm, actually, why does this work? My basic attack isn't an ability... it's a basic attack
>>735096548Neat, is there any indication of this in game?
>>735096478Yes, there are equipment sets that give set bonuses if you wearing 3 or more pieces of the set and there's passive that gives set bonus for 2 pieces
>>735096565Sounds about what I’ve seen/heard, guess I’ll be treating 10 as the magic number until I see otherwise.
>>735096647There’s some items/passives that directly call out the existence of set bonuses.Nothing really tells you what is in sets except for experimenting. The Item Proxy+ passive will tell you all sets an item is in (because you’ll qualify for all applicable sets with 1 item)
>>735096570What's the best flavor of ice cream?
>>735096647nope! fuck you!download ze mods to fix it https://www.nexusmods.com/mewgenics/mods/44?tab=posts
>>735096586Gravity element is gravity element. If your attacks has gravity, it gets the bonus tied to using gravity. Same with bleed and other status effects. If you ger bonus on bleed and your badic attack has bleed, your basic atack gets the bonus.Basic attacks -> Spells. Both attack and spells are abilities
>>735096647Yes when you wear 3 pieces of set the equipment squares get graohical effect and when you hover the mouse on them they tell you the set bonus
>>735096932The tooltip says ABILITY though, there is a distinction between abilities, spells, and basics.
>>735097035I'm already bored with you
>Fist of Fate+>Super Luck+Literally ruined the game for myself I finish every fight in 1 turn.
>>735096917banana
>>735097137there are counters to this towards the end, have fun
>>735097351Literally the only thing that counters me is creator on hard mode+ because he copies my cats and their gear, there's nothing else that I can't kill in 1 turn.
>>735089150holy fuck now I know what to save for those annoying future runs
>>735097446The biblical angels that bail to sky after one instance of damage?
>>735097626nta but if those are hit with fists of fate it defaults to the southern most tilethey will then all crash on the same spot... so you just fist them first and then walk away from the spot
>>735097626Marked bypasses holy shields.
>>735097845I thought we were talking about Fist of Fate
epic
Psychics are fucking impossible to solo with
>>735098138>become entropy and 15 int>wingg ez
>>735098138your ping/6+???
>>735098073I know it sounds like it goes away forever in 3 uses, but it's eternal
>>735098138If you are new, refrain from making statements. Ask questions and learn but don't declare anything.
The dumb thing about the Coven is that it’s easier to take them out than the candles if you don’t have any wind/water abilities.Sure I could make a panicked race to do 50 damage, to each of five VERY spread out objects, that don’t trigger on-kill effects.Or I could do slightly more damage to a single big immobile retard in front of me, on whom I can stack status effects like there’s no tomorrow, and as a bonus I get to skip the phase that has a massive instakill attack.
>>735098138works on my computer
>>735097626If you have a double hit like Wolf Form or Butcher's Spin they can't survive and there are passives that let you ignore shields but I did forget about Zapphauser so I suppose there is one thing that FoF Super Luck cats can't kill in one turn (although if I stunned him first I suppose I could).Anyway here's a FoF Super Luck Necromancer (not even good for it because I'd need to end the turn to proc the leeches) killing hard mode mother in 2 button presses.
>>735098346I have 300 hours and several of these catsI didn't give him any items, and he got wrecked on Alley normal. Which means the cat stats don't matter as much as items do
>>735098393That's a bird
>>73509848515 int and entropy as a starting abilitythat's all you need
>>735098485>Which means the cat stats don't matter as much as items doAnd bird goes "tweet". I'm happy you learned something new after 300h
>>735098346>>735098639what's your problem dude
>>735098565Yes but it illustrates the quality of being dumb.
>>735098695The og dude learned items matter more than straight 7 stats after 300h of playing and he declared solo Psychic impossible
>>735098810are you autistic?
just killed chaos only with feather darts
>>735098485why would you do an itemless solo
>>735098965Because I'm saving the good shit for Act 2 solo
>>735098862>make dumb statement>reveal you had spent 300h banking on all 7 stats carrying you>get surprised your ignorance gets ridiculed
>>735099038I'm not the original poster
I hate whenever I have a good team I get wary of going to the boneyard because of this fuckface and go to the caves instead
>>735099010This nigger just keeps giving>>735099067What's your take on doing itemless solo runs?
jelly cats
>>735099132What? Act 2 and 3 has a bigger difficulty spike than Act 1. I'm not going to drop a 500 armor Callus on some shitty nigger
>>735099164>the cat's name
>>735099254Im sorry to hear your inventory consists solely of single 500 armor Callus
>>735099132>>735099337why are you like this?take a break from /v/ you insufferable nigger
>>735099095At this point if I’m planning to head in that direction I’m picking classes already thinking about who I’m gonna have be the patsy. He’s uniquely challenging.Which means they must have some movement or attack ability to actually land it.
>>735099314Boykisser?
>>735099574That is also a possible name in this game, yeah.
>>735094894shitting himself
ZAMN
>>735099412>300h in>need to do solo Psychic run>send it naked because can't afford to give it equipment>get destroyed despite having straight all 7 stats cat>come to Mewgenics thread to tell solo Psychic is literally impossible
I beat Act 1!
FUCK HAVING TO USE UGLY CATSUSE WHAT THE HEART WANTS
>>735099756Throbbing King or just Boneyard?
>>735085658>>735085954You experienced the game from the POV of everyone you've killed
>>735099719>ESL>acts like a dick towards everyone>wonders why he's so detested
>>735099574Minos Purrime is 99,9% likely referencing to Minos Prime who is a boss in Ultrakill.
>>735099886Aaww, are /v/ threads your only social circle? Cute!
>>735100040>>735099412
>>735099934Yes but the attached image was shaped like boykisser
>>735100207Or was it shaped like Minos Prime?
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>735099164OH SHIT THIS CAT'S WATER EYES HEAL PLANTS AAAA
>>735083968nuh uh
I don't care that Steven has a bad event but the fact that it gives you the exact same effect as save scumming is kind of bullshit. Deja Vu is wholly negative because it's a punishment for shitters, disorders in every other context should have silver linings.
>>735083968And you're black, Steven
>>735088491>only 10 dmgfuck you mean "only," it's a huge AOE
>>735101238i fucking hate edmund
>>735101326>Edmund didn't even know that this could happen in his own game
>>735094534Just dont use it on your own cats idiot.
>>735084151>just unlocked the box>still haven't gotten the 75 dead cats unlockon the one hand that's gonna be quite an annoying grind but on the other it's a bit of an ego boost
What are the most broken classes?For me it's>butcher>druid>ranger>depending on the path, tank or rogueTinkerer is absolutely useless, fighter is okay but gets mogged by butcher and tank.Necro can be okay, still haven't figured out psychic but see niggas creaming themselves over it in these threads.Cleric is just good for desert and removing buffs as far as I know.Haven't gotten monk yet.
>>735084151This isn't really that bad when you have a proper death room with the violence idol. I get 4-6 dead cats every day.
>>735101576>quite an annoying grindi have a fight pit where like 5-10 cats a night die thanks to the fight idolthe most annoying part is piping the fuckers
>>735101670>Cleric is just good for desert and removing buffs as far as I know.thou shall not kill - enemy takes 10 damage and is stunned (if upgraded) for killing one of your alliesyour allies include all the 1 hp literal garbage flies you can summon ectflood the map with spiders, the enemy kills 7 of them with aoe and gets slapped for 70 damage
>>735101706you can just click the pipe icon in the info screen
>>735095824Trying it again with Fighter, Butcher, Necro, Ranger. Not one single death and I just beat Bloat. God if this isn't the run I'm dropping this game
>>735101238There should be a slightly good version of it>10% chance for action to fail>10% dodge >10% chance for each attack/ability to never miss
>>735101780i know>click the pipe button>brings up the fucking map>have to manually select the guy>close the map animation>repeat for gorillions of cats the annoyance adds up
Feline Invader INSTRUMENTAL > Feilne Invader (with lyrics).holy fuck.
>>735102059Both are good but I agree. In fact I prefer the instrumentals for most of the songs in the soundtrack but I'm also autistic if that means anything
>>735095824the trick is to get high char/int cats with low-cost spells and just spam them
>>735101770The only good synergy I had that made both cleric and tinkerer good was the one that made enemies spawn pickups when damaged.Basically had sniper rifle first turn 50% of the time, a bazooka or a very big stick.I realized I forgot mages exist, literally had only one good one with base attack magic missile, mana regen on kills and doubling a cast spell. No idea how to use mages.
Is lab just stat check or why I get just randomly assraped in the very start? Like I get these bouncing cats that come right after you and when you hit them they trample jump forward. And behind them there's some police robots that shoot if ally gets hit and they're immune from front like it's just fucked up.
>>735101524>healing the poison stacks off the enemy while giving them damage+Wow so much value
>>735101420you're kidding rightI thought he plays his games
>>735101670in my experience clerics are never broken but they're also never bad. also cleanse is unironically one of the best spells in the game.
>>735102194>>735101770I saw a funny YT short the other day, the guy had those roomba summons that pick up items and give it to every ally, but he summoned like 12 of them.For every coin he picked up, each roomba added one to its inventory, and when it died, it dropped a stack of like 10 coins, which then get added to each one's inventory. I saw like a dozen popups of +102 coins
>where do you study>at the fight pitjesus christ this cat is a genius
>>735094643>>735094683Trope that troons love, so yeah.
*hard counters Fenrir*
>>735101670Butcher is fighter +diagonal hit -skills of any value.
>>735102194>No idea how to use mages.mobile support and forbidden spells. some of the spells look kinda shit but then you remember mage can cast it like 6 times.
>>735102354you know you can just melee the traps, right?
>>735101420He said meows aren't passed down through breeding and enough people believed it to call people liars for complaining that their houses are full of annoying voice actors
>>735102251The cleric can be broken too. Better question is which class is most consistent to get strong with. And if you just ask 1 person then you never get the answer because there's too much luck involved and you'd need to run like AI simulation to get the answer.
>>735102248He thought Deja Vu was strictly tied to save-scumming and forgot about the bad Steven fetus event outcome.
>>735102378>-skills of any value.delusional, a lot of their skills are very goodvurp+ is INSANE for exampletheir hook is quite handy too
>>735102059Feline Invader (Cat Singing)
>>735102348There is at least one tranny on Earth who likes and does literally everything you do.
>>735102378>can drag enemies or drag yourself to something>spawn food>heal when getting a kill>inflict bleed, poison and bruises>spin to win>can literally eat units>bowling ball and cannon ball>high hp and high damageName one thing fighters do better than butchers.
I was thinking about how nifty disorder syringes would be, pre-planning would make some disorders pretty damn good....only to find out Organ Grinder gives them to you, but only after donating FOUR FUCKING HUNDRED DEAD CATS total. I haven't even unlocked the fucker on my second save and I'm into act 3.
>>735102378Disagree. The butcher skills are pretty good. Fighter can be insane, but in practice I usually have a good butcher moreso than a fighter.
>>735102610nta, probably brace and single target burst. Like the one fighter attack that stacks bruises and does damage for 2-3 mana
Are Snakes Decent summons? I could use some extra summon options for my druid and my two options I got left are form of the Squirrel and Summon Snake
>>735102434…No, I didn’t.
>>735102434To be fair, it was added later.
What build do YOU make Stacy in the Lab?Obviously changes based on cat abilities but I usually go for>Holy Shield>Fire>Damage up, Health Down>Double Head
>>735102743eh, they deal low damage and add 1 poison. probably one of the worst summons, honestly.
>>735102879same exact set up as you except i go for thorns if i have ranged units on the team
>>735102610>Merciless>Bruise>lots of multi-hits>just walk across the entire map>lots of movement in general>not having a speed penalty>a surprising number of crowd control abilities for anything they can’t kill outright>a usable weapon slot
IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING
>>735102743They auto attack. That's basically their only good schtick.
>>735102490>172 hp>123 mana>39 attack damage>228 actual damage>no marked, not a backstab, just the holy fire passive or whatever it's called>cat looks like a cat>on guillotina 3 of all thingsI feel like I'm not playing the same game as most anons, I'm three days away from Zaratana and only now started breeding the jump mutation and the +1 range into most of my cats.
>>735102968So form of the Squirrel it is
>>735102879I didn't know what I was choosing the things for and I tried to ignore it and I think the machine took away my druids eyes
>>735102743All Druid familiars besides the Crow are shit. You take Empty Vessels and put it on the other summoner classes
>>735103165I like frog summons. They can be used to do chip damage, pull shit and run away.
>>735103005Guess I'll have to give fighters another try, I felt like they were mogged by tanks during act one and served no purpose, so switched to butchers as they're just a better tank and DPS.The base stats of cats being higher really changes the game by a lot, just 4 extra HP is enough to make me turn a beefy boy into a rogue instead of a a big fuck off butcher.
>>735103165squirrels can be really good
>>735103293Whenever I get the frog summon I recall a fight a few days ago where I used its attack without thinking and moved Crater Maker right into position to eat my tank on his next turn and watched as he was vored I'm a very good player
>>735102743you get them for the upgraded version. 66% dodge chance turns them into a damage soak
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>>735103306I mean I also like butchers you can tell because I have way too many weapons in storage, but it really feels like unless they pull slice and dice or something they’re stuck being a one-kill-per-turn class. They’re rare to really pop off.Meanwhile my fighters (now that they actually have some good mana pools) can get themselves in and start clearing out several enemies per turn.Also I’m a Jitte addict.
>>735103474Posted this last thread, druid is absolutely fucking broken, the sparrow alone is weirdly overpowered.I got endless squirrels, stacked damage and heals on everyone, raped meat man with squirrels alone, they dealt more damage than my actual cats.I regret not going for the Moon with this team.
>>735103059The game is just luck, or maybe you're not considering the combos. Here is another funny with a 5 stat average cat and no mutations. And I killed Zaratana with hunter who had 40 attack actions in 1 turn from projectile catch abuse.
>>735102879brace, fire, health down, double head
>>735103730cutie
as far as completion goes i know about the x's and checkmarks and im vaguely aware of the red slash, but what does the tiny little paper tab under the icon represent?
>>735103919hard crazy impossible solo clears iirc
>>735103919That’s where the mono-class/solo marks go for higher difficulties.
what could possibly go wrong
>>735103974>>735104012fuck me, guess i better get cracking
>>735104012>>735103974>>735103919I've done hard for 3 of the areas, which also have the white tape. So if I solo it on hard, then I get a check down there?
>>735103748I'm absolute dogshit at the game but managed to beat Guillotina every time first try, same with Pyrophina.Butcher big, strong and pulls units, therefore butcher based and redpilled.They're even better if they have gore, belly flop and scabs, literally the superior tank/fighter.
When I beat the boneyard and the caves, I didn't interact with the throbbing domain events at the end because I thought it would sacrifice my cats. Was I supposed to interact with them?
>>735104107yes
>>735104146you get a quest after dealing with tina that interacts with the altar and actually properly unlocks the rest of the zone
sad meow
>>735103020I haven't seen vurp once, I need to start spamming solo butcher runs because this star is just rotting in my inventory
>>735103059You can see he has 32 all stat ups, a item that doubles consumable effects and a passive that doubles trinket effectsSo they just ate mushrooms(+2 all stats up x2x2).This made their basic attack very strong, the holy fire passive tripled it, the crit(from the +30 luck) doubled it again.It's all about synergy.
jesus christ these mutations
>edmund mc millen made another poopoo peepee foetus game>ignored internet drama and kept chris chan's meow in>game is as good as isaac and meatboy>absolute garbage humor that's so bad it becomes funnyIs he, dare I say, based?
Heralds are the only enemy that makes my computer slow to a powerpoint presentation. I wonder why. I realize now that the lag wasn't Mother, but when she births her Heralds.Now that I'm forced to not watch the animations fly by, I can hear them gurgle "mama" when dying.
>>735104778Replace the butterfly one with the bat one; it has bruise.
>>735104976>music is god tier despite being composed by ridiculon2026 isn't as bad as it seems.Imagine a Baranowski or Mudeth Meowgenics soundtrack.
>>735105295>despite being composed by ridiculonthey're not bad they were just a terrible pick for isaac. this game was practically made for them
>>735105379Danny must be seething so much
i really wish it was easier to just start up a new playthrough without having jump through a bunch of hoops for basic mechanics and quality of life
idk why people complain about Blood Frenzy. If you have it on a melee cat it is a free round 1 win most of the time, althoughbeit your other cats will be horribly disfigured at the end of your adventure.
thoughts on the maxmofoe catmy fucking butcher is currently this
>>735105487It's really not that bad, if you really wanted to just give yourself 7s right off the bad so it's not painful
>>735104976Jimmy "The Hammer" Valentine is peak humor thoughever
this head mutation is kinda crazy
>>735103062form of the squirrel is literally the most broken druid ability
>>735105379I still play baby peepee poopoo steak game with none of Ridiculon's songs, they're genuinely bad compared to the other two and just don't fit the game.Literally all of the songs are amazing in Mewgenics, even Eatin' Rats.The girls singing Crystalline Dreams, Them Kitty Bones and Feline Invader sound like they're cute
Someone should tell Steakmund about Sleepwalkers. Should make sleepwalkers into a dlc boss or mob.
>>735105726Many mutations are so horribly balanced. Like shouldn't they all be about equal when compared in a vacuum? Like who wouldn't trade 2 bruise for 10+ mana regen lol.
did anyone try it?
druids most broken ability is sing >massive aoe>basic attack so it counts for basic attack modifiers like APPLYING SOUL LINK TO THE ENTIRE MAP AT ONCE
>>735105806Form of the Wolf is really strong on any high strength class, even better with the Feral passive.
>>735105806That's not entangle
>>735106026my favorite is bleed and soullink. once i get more cats to pass this down i am abandoning necromancer
>>735105964There are definitely supposed to be different "tiers" for mutations. Some of them are just straight upgrades over others.
>>735106026I've only had five druid ruins, won four of them, only time I lost was because my necromancer got possessed by the faggot in the bunker and blew up the druid's body.But yes, they're super broken, especially when coupled with a necromancer and a ranger summoning endless fleas, spiderlings and leeches.>mfw feral druid
>>735106026>>735106198I enjoy this, especially if you get a hat, trinket, and mutations that add to it. However, it's unreliable at doing burst. It's really good control. I like using Brambles, myself.Lullaby is great, however
>Ally PeeshaJust got the name is supposed to be alopecia (hair loss)
>put zombie cat staff and death mask on necro>he dies turn 1i don't know what i expected to gain
>>735106026I still don't understand soul link.
Body Guard skill breaks the Lenny fight he can never pick up the cat.
>>735106437inflict soul link on faggot Ainflict soul link on faggot Bdeal damage to faggot Afaggot B takes the same damage
>>735106437enemy a has 30 hp and soul linkenemy b has 30 hp and soul linkyou smack enemy a for 10 damage enemy b takes 10 damage tooyou hit enemy a for 30 damage enemy a and b diesthe entire map has every enemy with soul linkthe highest hp enemy has 90 hp and everything else has 50you deal 90 damage to the 90 hp enemy and the entire map dies
>>735106521Ok. So definitely don't put it on the cats then. Does anyone with the debuff get this damage hit?
>>735105001I finally beat it Jesus Christ. 23 minutes to watc 4 rounds pass by but now it's back to normal. I don't even want to proceed here until someone tells me what this moon is, I am trying to do the Antenna quest and this is my first time beating the End. Is it adjacent to the volcano sacrifice and should I get my cats naked for it? My butcher has the quest item.
>>735105964Bruise is great nigger, I had maggots doing 40 damage per hit to moonman by turn 3 with bruise mutations.
>>735106467I prefer just having goad because if both screws up Lenny and makes Johnny unable to do anything but autistically scream
>>735106594yeah. necro has a spell that soul links every enemy + himself which is good if you have a kys yourself build
>>735106594>so definitely don't put it on the cats then>he doesn't see the value is making a build that self harms itself, such as hitting everything with soul link then instantly downing yourself
>>735106594yesthere is a necro skill that makes it so you apply soul link to all enemies and yourselfpretty great if you have a way of taking no damage (singleton/immortal + leather jacket / star and vurp)
>>735106383>he didn't get matematichka or bratishkangmiNo idea how Edmund let POCCNR memes slip in.
>>735106009It works extremely well but the lack of deeper modding due to >flash limits its usability
>>735106741oh, hope it can be developed further somehow in the future
>>735106727Up and Ratto?
>>735106640you lick ze orb and you CAN get 2 of the most broken mutations for free (extra attack on turn 1 or straight up extra turn 1)or it just vaporizes your cat lmaobut with the antenna quest you can only place the quest item so try it next time
>>735106680>>735106697>>735106724Ok. I had some soul link items I never used because I wasn't sure how goated they were.
>>735106640It's a lmao mutation orb. I've gotten it in a normal ? Node before for some reason.
>>735106650he was talking about the head mutation in the screenshot specifically
>>735106741>>flashExcuse the fuck me? Is this why it takes a solid thirty seconds to two minutes for the game to launch? Is it really all just a bunch jpegs?
>>735106841Thank god. I don't give a fuck about mutations right now. Most cancerous quest ever created. But now I can finally see what is the deal with these angel cats/wheels my psychics have been hallucinating.
>>735106792>joe peach
So is Zapphauser supposed to be like Flushmaster
Pewds played binding of Isaac and not this game lol
>>735106790It's not the map editor that need development, it's perfectly fine, the problem is all the game's maps and art being contained within encrypted flash files that get accessed by the game. You literally can't redo the art or maps right now short of completely decompiling the flash assets
>>735106885The game uses a custom engine designed to use Flash assets natively just because Ed only knows how to use Flash/Animate. IIRC they have some custom tools made so Ed can design levels, they will probably get released when the mod API drops
>>735107001hasn't he stopped doing literally everything after becoming a fulltime normalfag
>>735086928The PvZ fight is so cancer if you don't have an insane amount of movement abilities on all your cats. The Kaijus fearing you and cleansing their status effects every round is cancer and extremely not fun. Cleanse won't even help unless your cleanse cat is faster than all of your other cats. If your cleanse cat is the slowest in the party then your cleanse is useless.
>>735107001who the fuck is pewds
>>735107001streamers hate this game because it's not "press one button to win" like isaac
>>735107030>The game uses a custom engine designed to use Flash assetsEdmund it's 2026 and you've been developing the game for 15 years, what the fuck am I even reading?
>>735107001>unc streamers
>>735107030>that boomer who still uses flash
>>735107135if it ain't broke don't fix it
>>735107030what the actual fuck Ed
>>735107001>northernleftist and trannybulliedsauce have played itCan't decide if that's based or cringe.
>>735107082Poodiepie
>>735107131No, they hate it because 1 run takes so long, it's just not good for viewership as a variety streamer.
>>735107135>>735107030Yeah I wanted to do an ultra-basic "part 4 is a full-length chapter" mod and got hit with a complete inability to edit overworld maps.
>>735107258>>735107135>>735107030Yeah but imagine the jank if he had to completely learn a new way to animate, process animation assets, etc, and the scripting in Unreal or Unity or whatever. It'd be another 3 years at least.
>>735107030Wrong guy to direct your ire to
>>735107001didnt he stop playing on video in general since hes got a family and "fuck you" amounts of money
Post the Hitler gif
>>735107135There is unironically no good alternative to adobe flash/animate.
>>735107332fake excuse since the same streamers sink 9 hours into csgo lootbox opening and youtube reacts. watch a big streamer try the game out and witness their brains melt at the inability to understand their own cats are allies
>>735107221>>735107372>>735107395>>735107462In Edmund's case that weirdly enough justifies the "engines" he's using, his games are complicated, but genuinely very good, I'm not even mad, just very surprised, even though I half expected this.
>>735107395I think they're both a little biased given that they've developed mostly in Flash for yearsNonetheless, this is what happen when you rely on proprietary software
>>735107030Surprised they didn't use ruffle instead of all that effort.
>>735107135>>735107258There's nothing wrong with Flash outside of the performance when it comes to games lol as an animation software still great.And the game runs smooth so who gives a shit?
>>735107521>picMarshmallow after I'm done with her
>>735107135IIRC Derek Yu doesn't know how to code either and uses Gamemaker studio's "visual" programming that is just dragging and dropping shit together. TIGsource isn't sending their best....
>>735107012ok that's more disappointing than i thought at first :(
>>735107547Ruffle is a program that just plays .swfs, Mewgenics just has code to display vector graphics from .swfs and is vastly more complicatedAlso Tyler literally contributes to Ruffle
>>735107521Edmund doesn't code.
>>735107520Variety streamers don't play 9 hours of csgo a day. And people who plays csgo play just that.
>>735107687>Gamedevs when they tell steakmund to write his code slower
Edmund is currently watching Fishtank and donating love letters to the Twins lmao
>>735107553>the game runs smoothIt somehow doesn't. It slows down a lot when I'm in the throbbing domain, have to lower the speed from 3 down to 2, no fucking clue why, doesn't happen anywhere else in the game.>>735107610It's all yours my friend, I'm dropping all the cat reaction pics I can in Mewgenic threads.
>>735107135to be fair, ed does VERY LITTLE of the actual work himself. He just likes to review assets in flash, so they have to be .swf files.Mostly he draws on napkins and infodumps massive amounts of ideas for [the programmer aka tyler/florian/whoever] to weed through and attempt to make a game out of. There's a separate team doing the art.
so what's next for edmund?should he found his own video game company and have people work for him instead of "using flash" and release one game every 6 years?
>>735107738Edmund doesnt need to since he just waggles his fingers and programmers show up to make his visionHigh charisma irl
>>7351077973D Isaac 2 when?
>>735107797>so what's next for edmund?Camdrone baybeeeee
>>735107746>It slows down a lot when I'm in the throbbing domainNever happened to me and I'm running an old gpu at the moment, a 1050 ti and I'm sure you probably have a better one.
>>735107797I think he will just retire after mewgenics is finished, this game feels like a "final project".
>>735107750This is false. Edmund did a lot of art for Mewgenics. He's not just le epic ideas guy. He did all the cat, ability, item, furniture, event, and quite a bit of the UI graphics. I imagine he did a lot of the in-game enemy graphics too (just not animating them).>>735107797More Mewgenics DLC, then maybe Camdrome. Aether 2 and Isaac 2 are possible.
>>735107797He seems to have a good deal going already and the games follow his ideas too anyway, why bother with a company?Sounds like more work for little gain in his case
>>735107797he's rich enough to release one game every 10 years
>>7351078673D isaac is going to be like Risk of Rain 2. A stupid idea that is worse than the original and feels empty and pointless. At least Isaac is more interesting than RoR or RoR2.
Oh I'm surprised the Acid Rain weather effect isn't "wet"
>>735107797He has a company, McMillen Games, the people he works with are contractors and the programmer gets 50% of the game's gross revenue.He makes the games he wants to make and that's based.Also he's filthy rich due to Meat Boy, Isaac, merch, and now Mewgenics money, he can do whatever the fuck he wants, he won.
>>735107750nah, he did the majority of the art, hazards like cacti or immovable rocks, the backgrounds, season change cards, ost art, are other people and they've posted their far smaller selection of art they've done
>>735108005>Check weather effect>It's wet
>>735107797It was gonna be a big dlc and call it done but it seems like we might get mini dlcs tpp, since the game did well.He wants to take a break, the man is addicted to his work though.Camdrone and Kill-All-Hitlers seemed to be the games he wanted to make most right now.Me personally? I know the man dosen't like sequels but I wish he'd throw spewer to someone for a remaster. I fucking love 2d liquid physics games and past the flash game era their existence seems to dry up. Atleast get it out of that flash wrapper and upgrade the level editor.
>>735107503How
>>735108487>>735105726
Is there proof about the casette player event being permanently removed from the pool if you bash it? I swear I've bashed it before but I just got it.
>>735108257Kek
>marshmallow charms fighter>ranger shoots her and has the ability that charms enemies on first hit>because she's a charmed ally, my charmed fighter walks behind her and proceeds to fist her anus wide open, one turning herkek
>>735108569you need a critical success after choosing bash, which is (at most) a 50/50 shot at 100 luckFor comparison, mom's knife and the monkey paw are equally unlikely events, so that's how rare it is to break.
>>735107918>1050 tiNiggaI've been basically playing flash games and everything else on low settings my whole life because I don't spend enough time on vidyia and don't feel like buying a new computer every couple of years.
>>735108821I see monkey paw nearly every run, and mom's knife disappears forever once you unlock mom's knife. I don't remember seeing the tape recorder at all, I'm not sure if I already destroyed it or not.
>flashis that why this game fucking crashes on startup if you dare clicking once during the loading screen
>>735083613It's "epic"
>>735108963you've seen it, but how often have you gotten a wish.And actually mom's knife increases with time, so that's a bad example.
>>735108963>mom's knife disappears foreverCan't be true because I've found it twice.
>>735108694All according to her plan
>>735109135The event
>>735108963>still haven't managed to pull it out>still haven't gone down the tomb in the desert>think i got the cassette player once and didn't bash it, but never saw it again (probably did bash it)VGH, Edmund McMillen, the steakmaster.
>go get some bloodok>go get some fleshhow much more shit does he fucking want from me man
>>735108992It doesn't crash, just hangs for a bit.
>>735108992it's sovl
>>735108992>>735107135The game literally just uses .swf to store vector graphics. Which is perfectly valid and not even unusual, just not common in games (because 99.9% of games use rasterized sprites instead of vector graphics, so there's no need for a vector graphics format). .SWF is perfectly fine.
>>735107395>flash is accidentally extremely good for 2D art gamesDamn, I thought that was actually what it was made for
>>735109239>>still haven't gone down the tomb in the desertEverytime I get that event it's a STR roll on my lowest STR cat so I just hit ignore. I have no idea what it does.
>>735109505STR, DEX and END check. Probably won't be able to get it until I have cats with 7 stats all across the board.
