The Switch era pokemon games were overhated.
Keep sucking their cock mate
>>735091782did you mean overrated? if so, yes i agree
>plays them upscaled on emulator with improved performance>um acktually these are great
>>7350917823DS Pokemon spoiled me, I cannot like Pokemon on Switch until they do something big with it. No Legends ZA doesn't do it for me, I ain't even going to waste money on it.
>>735091782They really lost all the last bits of artistic direction they had after SWSH. Shit literally looks like NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN after Legends Arceus
Why did people hate this piece of lore?
>>735091782Underhated judging from the sales.
Modern Pokémon games suck regardless of the graphics since you can't fill out the whole Pokédex anymore, only the regional dex, and there is always some stupid gimmick that makes some Pokémon grow into some retarded monstrosity.
I, PiKEKchu-sama, mascot of the HIGHEST-GROSSING FRANCHISE and JOBBER of the vidya industry humbly kneel to:Shuntaro Furukawa-sama, former employee of The Pokémon Company, current Nintendo CEO, and my master.TPC-sama, my one and only true love and other master.Atlus-sama, who I shamelessly ripped off via SMT for my gameplay only for them to strike back with CHADsona.PocketPair-sama, who my daddy Furukawa warned me about for they're developing Palworld.Enix-sama, who easily manhandled me with Dragon Quest Monsters.Yugi Muto and Kazuki Takahashi-sama, who anally raped me and first awakened my wish to become a TCG and merchandising franchise first and foremost.Junichi Masuda-sama, who argued with me and his employees at GameFreak so hard, his departure started to cause the quality of my games to decrease and got me attracted to MEN...Squaresoft-sama, whose incomparabily soulful JRPGs in the 90s crushed my ass-womb entirely to the point I STILL cannot SUPRASS them, even 22 years after merging with Enix-sama.Bamco-sama, whose hour-long beatings from the recent Digimon games gave me uncontrollable orgasms so massive even the anal rape from Furukawa-sama can't compare.Itoi-sama, for his Mother Trilogy is the superior JRPG series of my Nintendo MASTERS, and has single-handedly inspired more Indie RPGs than even I have...Level-5-sama, whose power I am scared of (I am glad they stopped making Yokai Watch and didn't kill my beloved masters, as I was too scared to help them…)Sandfall-sama, who revenge-raped and mindbroke me and my fanbase via E33 from the sheer pleasure of being made into an onahole after Legends Z-A FLOPPED in France. (I was so sad about it...)and finally, Monolithsoft-sama, for they will FUCK ME up on the world stage once they release their Legend of Zelda RPG and expose me and GameFreak for the frauds we are. (Arceus I hope so…)
>>735092303its over explaining a game mechanic everyone could happily ignore and not need a canonized reasoning, it also open more question about why mons aren't abusing this power more often. its on par with all the slop lore Disney make for star wars like Han solo getting his name from getting a solo train ticket, no one gives a shit and no one needed to know. it just is how it is and thats enough.
>game is objectively dogshit>pokemon fans a decade later>erm akshually these games are amazing and you're just an entitled chudWhy are they like this? Pokemon games haven't been good for 20 years now.
>>735092935>Han solo getting his name from getting a train ticket
>>735092087Not an argument
>>735091782They were all terrible
>>735091782>>>/vp/
>>735092935>its over explaining a game mechanic everyone could happily ignore and not need a canonized reasoningDoesn't explain why it would make people mad.
I enjoyed arceus a lot
DLSS 5 will fix pokemon graphics
>>735096950Why does this look so bad? I'm playing it right now and it doesn't look anywhere nearly as bad as this.
>>735097481I took it from a...2? 3? week build of arceus when it leaked. Lots of graphical glitches
>>735097008>DLSS 5 will fix pokemon graphics
>>735091782>the gameplay
>>735095916no, that's what you do.
>>735091782sword and shield are shit. Everything else is serviceable
>>735092935Star Wars is a prime example. Every piece of Darth Vader's suit has a model name and lore. Utterly retarded
>>735091782maybe but in the sense that the decline began in the 3DS era with Sun and Moon. I haven't bought a mainline Pokémon game ever since. The new one however looks promising and I might try it.
>>735096120Curious how /v/ only acts like graphics matter only when it's a nintendo game.
>>735091782No, they're underhated. The 3DS games weren't perfect, but if they kept up the momentum and made up for their shortcomings the mainline games could have had extremely strong HD entries. Instead we got the most dumbed down, railroaded, tutorialized, and vapid shit imaginable.
>>735097894For me it was Black/White. Everything about it was so bad I think I stopped before the 4th or 5th gym. Never even considered buying a 3DS let alone any Pokemon game since.
>>735092303I hope they made minimize teachable to all mons after this
>>735092205pokemon models in swsh looked like it was painted on.
>>735098252sun and moon were tutorial cancer incarnate, retard
>>735097737SV was worse
>>735091782I really liked the artstyle for SwSh (outside of the wild areas that look terrible), but the game sucked.
>>735097916>best selling media franchise of all time>can't fix a simple graphical mistake that would take 0 time
>>735098417What put you off about it exactly? If you played and liked gen 4 it was an even smaller leap than from 3 to 4
>>735092087>mateYou got a loicense to be here?
>>735092303Remember the part where he said if you fail you'll be kicked out of the village and likely die?
>>735091782>Sword/ShieldWild area was ugly shit, rest of the game was kinda meh but overall not terrible>Scarlet/VioletExceedingly ugly to look at in every way, game itself was okay but not great>BDSPNever played, battles look fine, everything else looks bad>PLALots of cool details with how Pokemon behave, but the game itself falls flat. Catching Bidoof 50 times isn't interesting and that's all the game has to offer, feels like they were just trying to capitalize on BotW's popularity. Isn't offensively ugly like S/V and ZA but still looks really bad in a lot of areas>ZARepetitive, kinda boring, extremely ugly in every way, lots of tutorials for the first few hours
>>735099502>graphics matter only when it's nintendo because it just does okayShut the fuck up.
>>735091782Broadly agree, but Sword/Shield were absolute dog shit
>>735098945Looks like reading comprehension isn't your strong point! I said they were perfect, but stated that if they made up for their shortcomings the followup games could have been better.Their tutorializion isn't even close to as bad as SwSh btw, which has a world that's literally a straight line.
>>735101345>Weren't perfect Lmao, opposite of what I wanted to say. I didn't expect SwSh to double down on the weakest parts of the 3DS games.
>>735092935The thing is that this piece of lore has publicly existed since at least 1996, and even exists in concept art dating back to the early 90s, and has been mentioned before in Japanese and utilized in Pokémon Special and various pieces of merchandise. The problem is that Pokémon's brand image in the west was based heavily on the anime which functioned by its own set of rules. You'll still have people argue that a Trainer being under 10 years old is an oversight by the developers when that was never ever a rule in the games, it was only ever made for the anime. Even the original Gen I manuals say your character is 11.So when they include the line that Pokémon shrink in Platinum, not even the localizers understand what's being said by "become smaller" (ちいさくなる; the Japanese move name for Minimize), they adjust the line to "curl into a ball" which itself would be まるくなる, which would correspond to the Japanese move name for Defense Curl. Why doesn't every Pokémon learn Minimize? Why doesn't every Pokémon with teeth learn Bite? Pikachu's Pokédex entry for Yellow says it'll bite you if you try to yank its tail, yet Pikachu has never, ever had Bite among the moves it can learn.It's just so silly to me that this is where people draw the line when this is the game where a child single-handedly stops evil organizations bent on ending the world while catching legendary Pokémon and becoming a regional Champion and winning practically every battle and getting infinite free health care.
>>735092641Still posting this flawed pasta I see.Making one these memes, but starting off with "HIGHEST-GROSSING FRANCHISE", goes against the whole point of the format. And the rest of your lines aren't that good. Pokémon's "competitors" (if they can even be called that) are other monster franchises. Your other lines is just relying on the shock/joke value of the format. Then there's using the real-life people who work on Pokémon which is just a non-argument.It's totally possible to make one of these memes properly for Pokémon as there some notable issues with Pokémon, the very games shown in OP's image have issues. Yet you keep posting this stupidly bad copypasta, making a fool of yourself in the process. In fact, the opposite format to this would be much easier for Pokémon, as the issues Pokémon does have are more specific to itself. Remember all that the next you post this pasta, because I just know you will post again.
switch pokemon games are insanely uglythe framerate on scarlet/violet gave me headaches
>>735102014>switch pokemon games are insanely uglyThey looked soulful
>>735092303You do realise that "shrink" can both refer to them having their bodies literally physically uniformly shrinking and also them having their bodies compressed to a concentrated mass, right? The latter makes way more sense, is a more consistent and logical interpretation.Pic related.
I wanted to buy one of the games but neither S/V nor Sw/Sh look very good. S/V apparently still run like hot garbage and the world sucks and Sw/Sh have no endgame.I almost bought Let's Go Pikachu but it looks really dumbed down too.
>>735091782Even if you agree they're overhated (which is probably true, as hating everything has basically become a personality type now). It doesn't axiomatically follow that they are good. The games are under-budgeted, undercooked, and are weirdly simultaneously devoid of ambition to be more and constantly experimental in the worst possible way. Everyone knows why
>>735091782True. They were caught in the crossfire of the console war due to carrying the sales of a home console instead of a handheld like usual.
>>735091782>LGPEUnwarranted hate. They explicitly said these were games for ubercasuals who were either getting into the franchise because of GO or just wanted to revisit their childhood memories.>SWSHDeserved hate. Rushed kusoge that also started the DLC trend. If it wasn't for ##BBND, #ThankYouGameFreak and that fucking tree, SWSH would have been rightfully torn into for the correct reasons.>BDSPDeserved hate. Not even GameFreak wanted to make this but they had to in case PLA was a critical failure so they didn't have a dead year without a worthy mainline Pokemon title.>PLAUndeserved hate outside of its dogass visuals. It's not the best game, but they actually bothered trying something different for once.>SVNot hated enough. Literally the only good parts of the game are Area Zero (the final area of basegame) and the DLC stories for Ogerpon and Kieran. The rest is either forgettable or utter kusoge. Not to mention the sheer level of technical ineptitude from their unwillingness to adapt the game to Switch hardware, to the point where even to this day Pokemon's drones are still parroting the "THEY WERE EMULATED PRE-RELEASE COPIES" narrative despite the fact most iterations of glitches and anomalies were encountered during multiplayer interactions in the Union Circle, AFTER release, ON official hardware.>LZAGets just the right amount of hate, and it's deservedly so.
>>735093502It's the Pokemon cycle.As newer games continue to nosedive and get worse, it creates a battered wife syndrome response where they look back on their previous, less severe beatings with fondness because they weren't as bad as the current beatings.
>>735091782Arceus is probably the best one of those and didn't look like shit.
https://x.com/tk1189227dhy/status/1579148544111693825
>>735101826The best lore is with the last game zamn, where a kid single handedly stops the end of the world by pairing with a pokemon that the megaevolution carries a cannon that could easily level whole countries by itself and the same kid who is tasked to catch the pokemons that can bring life and death wherever they step foot, basically lore wise a kid having a pokemon which could wipe the life on earth and a pokemon which could destroy countries and armies singlehandedly.
>>735101064Graphics matter because they look fucking garbage, it's okay to have an artstyle, but at least make the damn fucking game look good in that style, and as the other anon said, it's the fucking highest grossing franchise in human history and they can't be arsed to make a game that isn't broken on launch or doesn't look like hot garbage.
>>735092087Hey bruv, you're not allowed to post here without scanning your asshole and ID.
I'm not convinced that BDSP weren't intentionally shit to prevent them from overshadowing PLA
>>735091782Did anything come from the BDSP decompilation project?
>>735107542No, because as it turns out, it's not actually "that easy" to make a game, even if you have a template like BDSP.People would still rather make hacks out of FRLG/Emerald or use Pokemon Essentials for RPG Maker XP.
>>735107728>XPReddit's two blocks down, buddy.
>>735107992You first, seeing as how you still think that meme is funny all these years later.
>>735107061GF definitely sabotaged ILCA so they wouldn’t lose the mainline games. Pokopia is more polished and visually impressive than anything they’ve put out.
>>735108104>no uebin
>>735108282The Teraleak showed that they didn't even WANT to make BDSP, but they did anyway because they were scared of PLA being a bust and then rendering 2021 into a bad year, which wouldn't have looked good reputation-wise between the SWSH shitshows and the inevitable shitshows of SV.
>>735091782>dexit>people still bought them They weren't hated enough.
>>735101064If you're the biggest IP of the planet, graphic matters, yes.No one moans and bitches about mainline Mario, Xenoblade, Kirby...only Pokémon because GF makes them look like garbage.
>>735091782>LGPEClearly a game for beginners, but I'll give it a point for looking nice and having Green in it>SWSHThe people were right>BDSPRight again, BDSP was shit, but base DP weren't fantastic either. Platinum was>PLAPretty fun game that was somewhat novel and solid as a single-player experience>SVGameplay was okay, performance and graphics were very bad and there were bugs all over the place, justified hate but not a 1/10, Area Zero was good >PLZA They had the recipe with PLA and still fucked this one up
>>735091782They all look like garbage, when I played ZA out of curiosity it was fucking garbage too.
>>735097916Graphics didn't matter until Masuda used them as an excuse for Dexit, and people rightfully called him out on it.
>>735091782Legends Arceus was the only good one
>>735109704And you successfully took Masuda's bait. By making everything about dexit and graphics, all valid criticisms about SWSH in other fields were drowned out by the faggot discourse, so all anyone ever saw was the clown brigade and the #ThankYouGameFreak shills.
>>735109167>They had the recipe with PLA and still fucked this one upTurning it into a shitty Xenoblade clone was such a weird direction. Apparently the Galar game is going to be a Pikmin clone so they really are just making shitty versions of other Nintendo games but with Pokemon for the Legends series.
>>735109897Except that didn't happen, either.
>>735110184It did. No one cared that SWSH's story was rushed and unfinished, no one cared that the DLC was just an excuse to sell you overpowered Pokemon, because everyone was still seething over the fucking tree from the Wild Area and the fact they still couldn't use Stantler.
>>735109897>>735110349To me, Dexit was already part of Sun and Moon. There wasn't a National Pokédex, you had to use Bank to get anything for Pokémon outside of the Alola Pokédex. The SM Alolan Pokédex had 302 entries, even though Island Scan would have brought it to 386, but they weren't part of it. 416 Pokémon that are boring transfers from Bank, you're not actually interacting with the game to get them. At the absolute best, you can get a Sun Stone or Moon Stone by showing a guy a Solrock (Sun) or Lunatone (Moon), Rotom is the Pokédex, and Charizard is used in place of Fly. But that's as exciting to me as transferring 180+ Pokémon from later games to Ruby and Sapphire, except at least they had new sprites and Pokédex entries, something to fill out.What's the point of catching every Pokémon if there's nothing to catalogue or fill out? Not being able to use them at all is a step down even from that, but did anyone feel compelled at all to make a living dex or anything like that in Gen VII that WASN'T all on Bank?
>>735091782just salty ff fags that can't get over the fact that pokemon was always better
>>735092303inserting 20 shrunken down gardevoirs into my urethra daily
>>735110349The criticisms you're talking about didn't happen until after the game had come out, and the more notable critics barely acknowledged or outright ignored the dex cut in their reviews.
>>735111503And when they did downplay or ignore dexit, they were called GameFreak drones for acting like it didn't matter, therefore the rest of the critique became irrelevant because it was now yet another battlegrounds for BBND and TYGF.
>>735091782I honestly think SwSh is among the worst possible JRPG experiences you can have without going back to, like, forgotten PC-88 trash.
>>735091782sword is decent but everything else is shit
>>735101896nta but i agree with him
>>735091782No.>SWSH deserved and still deserves every bit of hate it gets. Literally the only good thing it did was the town designs and the DLC.>LGPE is a complete mess of a game that mandates you ignore core features like the candies just to have a normal experience, and then expects you to dump the max amount of candies on each Pokemon (Which makes them twice as strong as Mega Fug) just to beat the mastery challenges. Meltan and Melmetal are also locked behind Pokemon Go to the Polls, and Melmetal literally cannot even be obtained without grinding captures of Meltan in it. The only positives of it are the ride Pokemon and the beautiful art style that I wish future games adopted.>BDSP is a visual downgrade in every way and didn't even bother to try remaking Platinum. It remade Diamond and Pearl despite a literal better version existing.>SV deserved the hate at launch and before the Switch 2 release. It performed horrifically to the point that Casseroya Lake when it was raining dropped to low-to-mid 10 FPS, Tagtree Thicket is 15 FPS until you get to the top-right area with the Mimikyu, and Area Zero drops to like 20 when at the top of it. At launch you fell through the ground, people elongated into stick people, the game crashed an unreal amount of times.Yes, it got better with a lot of the patches as a game, and the Switch 2 version should have been what it was at launch. While I think it's better than gens 6, 7, and 8 it's still unbalanced and not super amazing, but it's a step in the right direction after X&Y, S&M, USUM, and SWSH.PLA only deserves hate for how it structures it overworld areas because there's not that much to explore, but as a game it was a breath of fresh air in the series and one of their best games in generations.Can't speak for PLZ-A since I am not paying $70 for a Pokemon game but everyone has ragged on that game to death compared to PLA and I'm not a huge fan of the Digimon World combat it has.
