To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Mewgenics. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head.
>>735109505>>735109753You need like four good stats and good luck (real), it’s not happening without some god cats.Did I mention you need TWO critical successes to get the unique reward?
I just beat C-1000 on my second try after wiping out to him and I'm not gonna lie, I got really fucking lucky.The only reason I didn't lose is because the AI is stupid and it decided to spam "Increase Gravity" instead of just casting "Become Entropy".I had a tank whose only moves were "Push Attack", "Play Dead", "Body Guard+", "Bowl Over" and "Nudge". I built him from the ground up to be the counter to C-1000, so that he would clone him and be useless. Turns out that plan wasn't very good when C-1000 has 5 turns a round and he can just straight up kill you too. Fucking hell.This is the scariest boss in this game so far. Easily.I captured the whole fight, so I'm gonna post some mistakes I made.
>>735110431I'm currently building an army of suicide cats to cheese him for attempt #3.
>>735110431literally all you need is a random shitter with bloodzerki had one turn up the day before the fight>copied him, bloodzerked, dropped to 1 hp, instantly got molested
>jester cap>multiplier>mega alien blaster>caveman mustache>bark skin+With this combo I was firing the blaster 4x each turn. Does 68 damage on turn 1, potential damage increases by 160 each turn for as long as you have enough HP to tank the blaster self-damage.
First up, I made a very big mistake nudging the motherfucker. In trying to maximize my chances to hit him and trying to delay the inevitable cloning, I made it so that he started dealing big damage immediately.
I looted throbbys corpse and he ate my cat, does the cutscene imply this always happens or can I get something good if I keep chewing
>>735108963>>735108821WHAT THE FUCK, mom's knife was one of the first items I ever got and lost when I started the game
>>735110915It's a 50/50 to get a legendary item or lose a cat
I was scared shitless of him getting either my Becoming Entropy Psychic (Which he did but fortunately he was too stupid to use him) or Luffy cause of webm related. If he had grabbed Luffy, it would have actually been 100% GG right there.Anyways, I was so scared that I started doing nothing just hoping I'd be able to outlast him via tanking and long ranged combat. Big mistake. This cunt won't go down that easily.>>735110536Brilliant. But I'd love to know how Steakmund intended this boss to be beat in a non cheesy way.
>>735110915it's a base 50/50 odds of getting killed or getting a good item (higher luck makes it more successful too)it's also much harder on harder and harder difficulties so it's only worth going for the items on normalbut yes the final act bosses all have this gimmick and the stuff they drop IS usually great IF you can get it
>>735111030>thief in e>jester in s
>>735111008Also, I didn't know if C-1000 still did the "Move when you move" gimmick, so yeah, I was scared shitless.>>735110943I am 99% sure you can get Mom's Knife again after you unlock it. I am pretty sure I got it again.
>>735111030We hunterCHADS do not claim you
>>735110092i'm gonna be honest bros mewgenics restored my faith in video gamesin a world filled with regurgitated corporate games (+ ai) and uninspired indie slop, i'm so happy that something like mewgenics exists it could never win goty, but it's goty for me
How many generations of seperation is needed for cats to remain not inbred? Since I am trying to remain not inbred since I assume that is the right call?
>>735111204I'm mad at this game for getting me into the genre when probably nothing else compares
>just built the nuke>still haven't gotten the Junji Ito eventbugged luck mechanics
hitler 3 is lagging my 9070xt and 5800x3d. what the fuck
>>735110092
>>735111257Johnsy (red cat at the bottom) is heavily inbredA random stray and the Regis offspring at the very bottom is not inbred at all
Alright, you know what? This wasn't a mistake on my part. This is just actual bullshit. Fuck you, Steakmund.
>>735111030>Psychic not in F tier
>>735111312LESS IS MORELESS IS MORELESS IS MORELESS IS MORE
>>735111383It's always intriguing to test immobilize on bosses and see whether it works or if there's been a developer oversight
>>735111383wew
>>735111376I mean like would like two cats with the same grandparent would be considered inbred more generations would be needed?
>>735111309I had seen the hole in the wall event several times but no cat had ever rolled a success. Until this morning, on my second save file, I've already beaten the game/nuked the creator. But the event occurred right before the caves boss and here I am assuming I won't see my cleric again but he actually appeared at the start of the fight, completely transformed into what you see now.All in all these mutations are an insane gold mine of positives that you can potentially get nearly at the start of your save. So it's worth it.
>>735111383you can press 1 to move 2 for weapon 3 for trinketand QWERTY for the skills underneaththere's a keybinding for ending turns too if you look in settings i rebound mine to M4
>>735111383https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5dRfOWmnvw
>>735111383you're now officially allowed to savescum
EVERY SECOND FUCKING ADVENTURE I GET BLOOD FRENZY.FUCKING STOP!>But muh it works good if the stars align just right broFUCK YOU I DONT CARE, I'M SICK OF IT, GIVE ME SOMETHING ELSE COCKSUCKER.
>>735111564stupidly didn't include the screenshot
>>735111549From my experience shared-grandparent is enough to get you into Slightly Inbred at least.Which isn’t bad but you don’t want to keep doing it.
>>735111502>developer oversight15 years of development should not have oversights.
>>735110431I didn't get him on my first try, BUT I figured out/remembered you could spam Toss without him retaliating with an action, so I kept throwing him around in a circle, stacking him with bruise debuffs (my tank had an armor piece for it) and was able to get him on my second attempt. Most satisfying win in the game for me so far
>>735111615Meanwhile I have over 300 hours (I might have been asleep some of those hours since I am sick), and I haven't gotten blood frenzy once. I almost got 80% of achievements if that is a better indicator
Edmund needs to be arrested
>>735110431C-1000 is nothing compared to god's good cats on hard or higher. That thing you're scared of (getting an OP cat copied)? Now it happens to all four of your cats guaranteed. And they'll either win the speed tie or have an elite buff that guarantees they move first.You have to be very delicate to sabotage your own run *just enough* to survive to turn 1 without losing all the gas you need to actually beat god.C-1000 is like a little baby.
I love this hat, thanks for the free win, I just hope the first phase of god don't ruin me and my fist of fate aim to my copy
>>735111768Just bring a persuasion device every run :^)
>>735111768I fought hard mode god once and my fighter kind of just fist of fated everything to death(now he's in a jar so I can summon him to basically win every battle and repair shit)
>>735111630I’ve only seen it one time and I’m guessing you need a crit success for them to get in the hole (and come back allied) which I didn’t get.So it’s not exactly reliable.
>ruins your catYOU FUCKER THE EVENT WAS BRIGHT GREEN
>>735111824The clone will spawn with haste as it's elite buff, calling it now.
>>735112075Nyoom~
I sent my mage into the volcano because I thought I had to do that to get into the infinite (I put the last thingamabobber on the Rift boss), but it turns out you just get the option to teleport there with the time machineHe didn't deserve that at all. I'm sad
>>735111926>now he's in a jar so I can summon him to basically win every battle and repair shiti got an irradiated object that apparently does thisso what's the strategy? you breed an extremely strong cat with repair, give him the item, kill him and summon him whenever you want?
>>735112117>elite buffI'm still not playing in hard mode, still trying to get all the regular unlocks in the other classes before moving to the next level, this one is for the necromancer and thief
Necromancer happened to be a huge plus in this fight. Turns out that when you are a body that is constantly healing and also gives the enemy fear, you're just free damage. She didn't use either of these abilities a single time in her actual run but they were clutch here. Maybe familiars would be good in this fight too.
>>735112075I judge events by what's less risky in context, never by what's green or red or doodoo. Like the mousetrap event. My stat for activating the trap is almost always higher, but I've always got past it without harm by leaving it alone even if that stat is doodoo low.
>>735112183Pretty much. Repair removes the Worn status.
i've beaten man in the moon and spewer 2 times in a row each, i am god now>>735110915try getting higher luck stat, i've literally succeeded so many more events by putting points in it
>>735112196>Maybe familiars would be good in this fight too.They are indeed. He can only copy cats, so keep him busy with small fries.
>spider boss (hard)>summons 5 champions>each one has Protected buff (holy shield each turn)I literally cannot fucking move, stacks of webs on all allies. This is fucking miserable what am I supposed to even do here? Just lose?
>>735112196Necromancer can kinda "solo" that fight if they have blood geyser. Boss copies it and uses it twice, dies.Sure two of your cats will 100% become injured but who cares. Use shield if you care I guess.
>>735112402should have planned ahead
Scattershot is retarded skill I don't think anything even comes close on how good that skill is. The only time hunter is not godtier is in the Future and even there he has his use if he has at least one trap skill.
>>735112456how the hell was I supposed to know there'd be 5 of these fucks each with holy shield buff?
>>735112468shit misses like half the time, i prefer heavy shot and never missing
how do i know which cats i should isolate so they don't breed now that i have the chastity shrinebesides the gay and retarded onesseems like everyone always has some stat i should be trying to reproduce. there's no clear cut stinkers with like, 7 4's
>>735112402If you’re going for Hard+ Spinnerette you NEED AoE.
>>735112468Scattershot and Squirrel Form are the most overpowered-out-the-box skills in the game IMO.Scattershot with rubber projectiles is just ridiculous.
>>735112539Right, hunter also has some of the best passives in the game. 100% more crit damage and stun chance and there is plenty of ways to just get never miss too, item or psychic.
>>735112468Meteor Shot is better really, it just shuts down bosses with stun
>>735112543I use the chastity idol to keep good cats from falling in love with their siblings and getting inbred to hell while I try to pair them off in another room.
>>735112639mark is the best source of never missing since it also makes you always crit and ignore shield as wellprobably the most op debuff in the game imo
So this thing only has 10 damage at a time and then blows up? That seems pretty hard to do most of the time but maybe its easy? I guess 10 damage isn't that hard to do but I'm usually one shotting a lot of enemies. I guess I can bring an item that spawns a familiar to kill
I think part of the reason why I think this fight is just kind of weird is because of the weird way the stats interact.He has a 20% miss chance with 8 stat ups but he can only move one square in the water cause of slow, also? It's just so odd the way the mechanics stack on top of each other. And none of the information is conveyed well, which is always a problem but becomes huge when you have nail biting enemies like this dude.Anyways, I don't know what the right play was. I don't know if me trying to shoot the sniper when he was at only 20% miss chance was good. I think I skipped turns when I shouldn't have skipped and acted when I shouldn't have a million times during the fight.
having robo-morgana show up so late in the robo-cat fight when there's probably a cat or two downed is fucking brutal, fuck you edmund.
>>735112713It's appropriately hard to use against bosses, though, since it loses a stack for every boss turn.
>>735112795>letting your cats get downedskill issue
>>735112740Slow is basically "you can only move two tiles no matter how fast you are". It's very good.And water tiles cost two tiles.
this should be great with stunning beard / joker cap / stomach right?>>735112739this was very easy using a thief
>>735112740>He has a 20% miss chance with 8 stat ups but he can only move one square in the water cause of slow, also?Dear anon.Slow makes max moves be 2. It doesn't reduce by 2. It doesn't lower it by an amount, it sets a max of 2.Moving through water takes double movement.
>>735112183don't waste it, thats one of the most coveted items in the game (only cat rib irradiated object is comparable)FIRST, make some copies using a careful+ joker card cat. If you can't do this, your next best bet is to get a standard soul jar with Repair and use the tinkerer skill Fabricate to gift it to your subject.The irradiated jar allows you to save a cat with a trinket instead of a weapon. Since trinkets are often better, you've got unlimited possibilities.Some of the better strats involve Careful+ Dealer users. For example, the Steven item that upgrades all your cats' skills.>>735112183don't waste it, thats one of the most coveted items in the game (only cat rib irradiated object is comparable)FIRST, make some copies using a careful+ joker card cat. If you can't do this, your next best bet is to get a standard soul jar with Repair and use the tinkerer skill Fabricate to gift it to your subject.The irradiated jar allows you to save a cat with a trinket instead of a weapon. Since trinkets are often better, you've got unlimited possibilities.Some of the better strats involve Careful+ Dealer users. For example, the Steven item that upgrades your cats' skills.There may be a way to use it to dupe furniture boxes, but so far we haven't found it.
hundred hand slap and bruising kinda goes crazy
But yeah, like I said, barely managed to scrape out at the end. If he had one more turn, he would have insta killed someone with the sniper rifle and possibly beaten me after.This was too stressful. I'm glad I may never ever do this fight again. And even if I do, it's months or years away. I'm sick of charm/clone type enemies.
>>735112931>>735112740I used Force Feed on a miniboss to tank their speed. Looks like they always have a minimum tile movement of 2
>>735112934yes
>>735112402nevermind I savescummed the fight and now spinnerette has electricity instead and it's absolutely trivial by comparison.
>>735112931>>735112956Oh wow, ok. I misread that severely the entire time. Slow is insane, then. Glad I had it. Actually, the fight would have been way easier if I realized that, then.
>>735112962based luffy
>>735111309I've gotten the Junji Ito event 3 times, twice my cat was too fat to enter, and the third time, my other cats pulled her away to safety from the hole. I never thought that could happen. I just want longcat...
>>735111383lmao
>>735112543You don't need to isolate or anything.I got to max stats with just pruning. If you got a few cats with 7's you can start pruning the ones that dont, throw in any cats with a stat you're missing. Throw the rejects in a high mutation room to get more stats before you send them on adventures. And if they get good stuff you can throw em back in which will bring the average base stats down again but its a good way to mix some mutations into your main breeding pit.Eventually just through pruning the cats that don't inheret the highest of every stat you'll naturally start to max out.Once you max out you can throw in strays to avoid inbreeding but will need to toss every cat that inherits the bad stats.later on when you get more rooms you can pair them in one room and then put monogamous couples in the other and you wont (usually) need to worry about them mixing. Me personally I'm doing crazy difficulty now and I still mostly just inbreed max and toss anything that isnt good. Once you max out on cat stats you can just draft from your habsburg rejects in the mutation room.
>>735111727Ackshually, it's only 6. And besides, it'd take you a hundred years playtesting all these combos.
Wait a fucking minute, I just got that cloak from that Tracy event where you can give her 25, she give me the hood, the tattoo and the cloak, completing the whole thief set, I just beat god and the game told me that I unlocked the cloak and give it to me, this means that tracy even can give you items you still don't unlock it?
>>735113476yes
I think I misunderstood Soul Jar. My Druid doesn't come with a crow. I should have given it summon crow skill or summon apprentice from Monk. Guess I got to farm a new Soul Jar. Gonna be annoying to breed the perfect Druid again.
>>735111728based
>>735111564i hate that it is near the start because now you're in a rush to pass them down with no furniturewhy does every cat that succeeds it the first time per save file seem to have the exact same mutations? the long face and limbs, like a cat-equivalent of the amigara fault being referenced/
>>735111768>>735111926I had a tief who had an extra turn passive which seems to get priority. Killed the Creator in two turns with an the tief marked passive+ for extra crit damage and then just nuked his ass
>>735113939extra turns don't give you priority over the clones, you just got lucky and won the speed tie (and no cat or god had hasty, depressing...etc). Your clones also get an extra turn when you do.
160 hours later I've unlocked the infinite and managed to beat the creator. My first fight was against a handful of cherubs and this was the first time I've met Steven in the game because what in the FUCK was that shit.Tell me straight, how long will it take to unlock the final credits? The doctor gave me one more quest item that I need to take to the king.
>>735114208>onehahahahahahahahaha
>>735114067Damm well thats even better to know I got lucky. Is it possible to just soul link your cat and enemies and then just use cat roulette? I would try it but I didn't have a cat with that skill in a long time
>>735114208how the fuck did you make it to the infinite but haven't done throbbing king quests? or are you talking about blue quest items?
>>735114309after you kill creator beanies tells you to get blood from king to make a nuke and then another quest...and then another quest...and then another quest...
>>735111578My brother in christ, he's playing at 1 speed in Act 3. Not a single finger is ever touching that keyboard.
>>735114309this game has metroidvania like progression. on my first file i beat throbbing king several times because i've beaten guillotina 1-3 with thieves but i've never even seen the fakeout credits because i only made it up to bunker and didnt go to crater, meanwhile now ive beaten moon but havent done any house bosses despite unlocking 3 of them at once
>trinketi've actually wonhahahahaha
>>735110092I'm 100 hours in, nearly at the ending I'm assuming I just have to put the final thing at the end in the future and maybe fight another house boss to get the ending.I'm so ready for it to be over desu, the game wastes so much of your time and its just full of frankly annoying situations and pitfalls. My tipping point is Arthur, I just wanted to take 4 all-7's cats on a simple run through alley (normal) to get frank progress and that faggot just spammed metronome 3 times a turn and melted them before they could even get over there. Why the fuck does he spawn on the first level? Why does he get a tile full of tall grass and water to make him harder to reach? Why does he spawn around a longass corner so you can barely get LOS on him in 2 turns nevermind getting over there in time?I want to like it a lot more, but it gets tiresome following the exact same paths every time and being essentially forced to eat shit from events too.>go to desert with strong druid in group>LOL ALL BIRDS ARE AGGRESSIVE NOW>run lost because now I have to kill my druid since I spawn faceplanting into an all stats up 2 aggro crow every battle
>>735114487would the cleric double trinket passive let you cast them twice per turn?
>>735114557mayhaps
>>735114550>assuming I just have to put the final thing at the end in the future and maybe fight another house boss to get the ending.hahahahaha...
My thoughts 94% in. Most of these are ranked on how reliable they are in completing battles first round.
>>735114273most of the time it isn't possible to take *any* action at all, you just wipe before turn 1 because they go first. If you get the chance to move, your odds of survival are a lot higher.On the bright side, you can freely savescum the first turn if you get wiped without taking any actions, so you have a ton of chances to tweak your gear.
>>735113394i have so many cats they all have a 7 somewhere i needi have a problem
>>735114616>Mage in AWhat's with all these bait lists
>>735114616I mostly agree but would swap Fighter and Monk, since Monk needs a few skills and synergies before they start doing it.
>>735114616why druid though
>>735114779Mage is good for utility, AoE or positioning enemies in my experience. Way better than the Clerics that have slow movement and only have healing abilities
class quality is measured based upon how useful they are with an incomplete or sub-optimal buildif you disagree, you don't know SHIT about video games
>>735114803Familiars are already strong and they have busted Crows and Squirrels they're able to buff. The animals from tree ability basically has a chance at summoning another party member
>>735114616I would say fighter definitely should be higher. Figher has way more synergies that help with attack refreshing or extra turns. >>735114770As long as not every single cat with a 7 is with a cat of the same 7 youll eventually get cats with two 7's and then just take those and put it in a room with a third 7 and from there you can just start pruning every cat that dosent have 2 or 3 7's and then 3 or 4, then 4 or 5 etc.Afaik stim helps but its mostly a coinflip between each parent in each stat so you're basically flipping 7 coins. Once your cats have more 7's than not youll only be flipping a few coins each time.
>>735114791Tier is biased as I have a lot of backstab passives passed down so a class that attacks twice by default is really good
>>735115156Fair, but I feel like if you factor in multiclassing then fighter wins out thanks to being a better statstick as a base.
>>735114981>and only have healing abilities
>Loner + Carefulwhy wouldn't this work
Is there any events in Act 2 that randomly give you a fucking disorder without warning or messages?I guess I'm killing this fucker ASAP.
my illusory waggler turned the mech into a giga-nigga waggler
>>735115357Loner ignores damage negation.
>>735114770by hardy-weinberg principle, as long as you have more than 0 stim and all of the 7-stats are represented in complimentary stats, the population WILL eventually fixate on a perfect cat**assuming you don't completely lose all your cats with a 7-stat from death
>>735115374you casted a forbidden spell, retard
What would you do with this cat?
>>735115374I see a Forbidden spell in your skills, and Psychosis is part of the Forbidden spell illnesses. So put 1 and 1 together.
>>735115492all collarless run
zoomies is fucking awfulstraight up bricked one of my cats into total uselessness
>>735115554With no substantial guaranteed abilities/passives?
So how do you know if your cat's are home boss material?
>>735115619Depends on the boss but usually>do they do the big damage>if not, are they good at supporting someone who does the big damage
>>735115603>ranged attack + ranged armor>good statsdo it faggot
>>735115374How did you get to act 2 without knowing what a forbidden spell does
>>735115754by never using them ever for any reason>there will be consequencesWHAT CONSEQUENCESI DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT
>>735115439But how was he suppose to know???
>>735115439>>735115754I didn't even unlock it until the last battle, it was a blank necro spell.Blood Frenzy was a random event, that much I know.
>>735115754I personally have never cast one but Arthur spams forbidden flood too much for my liking
>>735112957uhhh so basically, i'll just keep it stored for the time being
easiest way to beat the lab for the first time? my cats are still not good and i get rolled, i just want to unlock the monk and then grind acts 1 and 2
>>735115374>Killed him first turn during Cerberus.>Get this stray soon afterGood god.
>>735115754no one uses mage, anon
>>735116154i've beaten lab twice with tinkerer (and druid)
>spawn AI mini me>it destroys its father's corpseFuck off Steven.
>>735116154- hunter (just good at everything)- druid (good support, free disposable familiar that can go in for a deep assault, tanking hits that would give your cats space aids)- butcher(melee cat that starts out with a versatile tool that allows it to pick its fights without exposing itself)- free slot to compensate for whatever your weaknesses as a player, equipment, or stats arethe lab is when having cats with middling stats really starts becoming noticeable, you can make up for it by bringing a shit-ton of equipment in the short-term but its something you'll want to get sorted out before your house starts looking dire
>>735115754Events kind of teach players that if something is just said that will be bad(without specifying), it's better off not botheringHell they teach players that just going "fuck off" and leaving at events in general is a better choice if available
>>735116154Keep at it. There are some easy combinations of enemies if you go the easy path. Not EVERY room is bullshit and difficult. Just quite a few of them.You should be able to brute force through in fairly short order.Stacy is way easier than Spewer. If you want I can give you tips on what to pick for her before the boss fight.Actually, if you really just want to power through once and don't care about the long term implications of the cats you send through the lab, then I suggest you go "No thanks" on everything but the last, where you pick "Double Head". Makes her really easy.
>>735116154Because of enemies that can inflict injuries, don't try it until your kittens are more than 7+ with mutations in at least a few stats.
First time I've beaten this boss before it has hit Phase 2.
>>735116662Nonsense. He can beat the lab once to unlock Monk before that point. You don't need to make the game even grindier than it already is.
If I'm just doing a run to level kitties for a house boss is it worth doing the Throbbing Domain?It would be my first time going into it, opened with the Guillotina quests but didn't really bother before
>>735116789Going through all the hard paths and into the throbbing domain is the only way to have 4 cats that have plused passives.So sooner or later you'd like to understand Throbbing Domain as well as you do the other areas in Act 1, yes.
>>735116154Make sure you atleast have multiple decent ranged damage sources and if you take melee make sure it has a way to get out of range. Butcher is also pretty good on labs since you can pull in the various enemies and gang up on em which is especially important in an act that has infested, gamytes, half cats, and mutants and shit that just wastes your time like dittos.Also DRUID is god tier in labs because the crow can trade into all the shit that inflicts debuffs for free. Don't put druid on a low strength cat, put it on your highest strength cat for the crow to inherit and let the crow flutter forward and take out stuff so you dont expose your cats.The bosses are mostly a damage check and punish you for grouping up where they can start stacking up debuffs that roll into a team wipe. If you split up and they can only hurt one cat at a time they're arguably less scary than most minibosses because the actual point by point damage they do is very minimal.>>735116789Most house bosses boil down to getting one exceptional can opener supported 3 half-decent cats. So at the very least you should be trying to squeeze every level onto the can opener you can.
>>735116154Get ready to learn to hate Spewer, brother. Worst boss in the game.
spewer comes from another edmund game?
>>735111383protip: slow DOES slowi also lost to this bullshit btw
>>735117094The way I feel about Spewer must be how other people feel about The End. I didn't even know what TEIN was before Mewgenics, but you better believe I soijakked when I saw Spewer.
>>735116154Don't worry about grinding marks yet that much. I won't spoil it but you will find out not that far into act 3. If you don't care about spoilers, the reason I say this is because there are extra difficulties where you need to get the marks for more achievements and doing it on the harder difficulties counts for the lower difficulties too
>>735116789are you comfortable wit 3 cat runs? try that
>>735116681Also I might be experiencing a bug with Strength In Numbers+, neither my Necro's leeches nor my necro is getting the bonus after upgrading.Fugg.
What's the minimum IQ needed to beat the game?
>>735117094https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/494129
>>735117094:D
>>735117094Edmund has made a lot of games honestly. Fun fact, his first games were those dressup games but with a dead baby (which we now know as Blue Baby In TBoI)
>>735117352>author: blue babywait a minute...
>>735110431yeah I got lucky too and had tall grass proc miss a few times without a build for it
>>735116681I've literally never seen phase 2 even in my collarless runs
>>735111008i think steakmund figured out that C1000 is at a point in the game where you should know how to cheese shit and that's why he's so bullshit and gimmicky
>>7351173430unga bunga can beat 90% of the game's contents
>go to hit heal my dying cat with the cleric>fucking crit it for 30 and dies>turns out rabies removes the cleric healingfuck off steakmund
>oh no my cat is on low health>quick get in the grass for safety>ok cleric come heal him now>miss miss miss miss
>>735117195I am one of 5 people who played TEIN and I did the same. It's cute that Ash serves as the shopkeep for that area.
>>735117094There's even more deeper cuts than that.For example, Host (the enemy in the Junkyard and also the enemy in TBoI) also comes from another Edmund game with the same name.
Is it doable to finish the game without doing the eugenics crap
>>735117524Yeah, the Blue Baby was kind of his persona online, that is why that one time in the milestones for his Isaac Card Game, he made sure to remind people that the Blue Baby icon was based off him when he wanted people to draw R34 of him if I remember correctly. Keep in mind this was over half a decade ago so I might be wrong
>>735115346Yes, why the fuck would I need healing when I'm one round clearing. I said it's based off damage consistency
>>735117682>>735117727Guys... I think Cleric might be shit...
>>735111008>I'd love to know how Steakmund intended this boss to be beat in a non cheesy way.high mobility units to wear out its dodgebait it into the lava for fuckhuge 30+ fire stacksintentionally milquetoast cats for it to copy
>completing all marks + solo runs gets you to 109%steakmund's still seeting all these years later
>>735117781Speaking of, I am honestly surprised of the characters I didn't realized came from other Edmund games like Peashy
>>735117814i'm the second anon you quoted and that's not even cleric's fault i just didn't think ahead
I've played Mewgenics for 55 hours now and I'm still not too sure what's up with cats getting all fat when you rub it on another cat.
>>735117797Why is it so hard for gamers to good cats in the same room with high comfort/simulation? You're playing a strategy game that requires your brain
100 hours in, finished the main quest and i've only finished the boneyard a total of TWO (2) times (i've a 100% win rate against dybbuk)yeah i think it's about time for a moon/rift run
i wish spinerette was actually triachnid
>>735117930MEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWgenics____________________________________________
>>735117797Yeh, but you should atleast do some soft eugenics by tossing cats that are worse than their parents, so your stats naturally go up from artificial selection. Just collect the good ones throw the rest away~ay~ay~
I'm genuinely curious how the music evolved in this game because there's a lot of situations where music was clearly made for area A but ended up being used somewhere else.the crack of doom was 100% written for the end of time area, before it became a reference to the end is nigh and used that game's music.there's also tyler mentioning on youtube how humanicide was written without the nazi/german bits, and was rewritten late into development when the hitler/nazi stuff was added. I'd love to hear that version of the song.
>>735117958I would've soijakked so hard my jaw fell off.
>>735117797just have a room for good cats and a room for shit cats, fill the good cat room with good furniture. the game will autoplay the rest.
>>735117931i just get attached to the veteran suboptimal ones after a new generation with better stats comes in
>>735118009>>735117990SCIENCE IS THE FUTURE,BOYCATS ARE THE WAY~AY~AY
>>735118154I fucking love science!!!!!
do cats actually have sex like that
>>735118125if you play well you can make your veterans live for a very long time and have them mindlessly birth mini-veterans. do hard mode runs and get the cardboard boxes, that's free furniture. good furniture makes your cats fuck more often (comfort) and more efficiently (stimulation), and live longer (health)
>>735118260hard mode is so late game I'd classify that as shit advice.
>>735118217My disgusting mangy creature irl humps fluffy blankets and he does it incredibly fast and unceremonious like bird mating. I do love him though.
>>735117958As an Edmund aficionado, I think it's more interesting when he does new things rather than retreading his old work all the time*cough* tommy refenes *cough*
>>735118319i think he means the hard routes that give you furniture boxes and coin pursesi have trust issues after going through my first lose streaknow i'm just clearing my side quests and avoiding hard. money from side quests pays for furniture anyway
>>735118319i meant the hard path my bad g
What part of the game is the retard filter?
>>735118462correct me if i'm wrong but aren't the bunker and act 1 the only hard paths to offer furniture boxes?
>>735118482desert
>>735118525das future too
I cannot stand ugly cats. I throw away all ugly mutations. I don't care if it makes me less effective. Only beautiful cats in my paradise
>>735118482Desert.
>This cat is considered "Not Inbred"Explain
>>735118482It's multi layered like one of those sand/charcoal mixed filters.It filters different type of retardation as the game goes on.
>>735118583Daww she cute. Yeah I know it's inefficient but I care about looks and sounds. I'm not sure whether to look at it as getting in the way of eugenics, or part of the eugenics.
>>735118595You sure love necromancers
>>735118595Basically anything from the great grandparents and older doesn't matter for inbreeding
>>735118595Lots of genes from that stray who is a grandparent
>>735118525different paths offer different stuff.
>>735118583Im looking forward to seeing people do hard mewgenics for looks.Not just mutations but the random base head shapes and legs and stuff too.
>>735118525For places like Crater and Moon it's replaced with a meteor
Finally beat the game, after 168 hours I can now tell the negative events don't happen as usual as you think they do, it's just that getting a negative sticks with you too much that it feels like they happen extremely often because of how much they can destroy your run. I also preferred the more urban feel the game had in act 1 with the type of levels you explore and guillotina being the boss, I would have preferred if act 2 was the park(or a return to whatever the path was) instead of the desert and then the desert being the alternative option instead of the crater, just add the aliens there like we see in the cutscene
Is Johnny hard? He looks easy, but I've only just reached the bunker. Lenny looks harder than him.
>>735118834johnny is easier than lennyliterally just kill the cultist adds he spawns and he can do literally nothing to you
doing the side quest where you get items instead of active ability upgradesshould i take the cursed sonichu medallion>>735118815they got a bias named after that
>>735118925if you walk away from events, you are a PUSSY and are playing the game wrongsame kind of people who don't immediately scarf down every unknown pill in isaac
>>735118959fuck no
>>735118834johnny is a damage check. if you can reliably put out 20 damager per turn and keep the cultists off of johnny, your cats won't take any damage. the punishment for failing is arena-wide gravity attacks and charming your cats.
>>735118525>Act 1Furniture and/or money>Act 2For Core: Furniture, chance being rare. Also money.For Moon: Meteors that are either trinkets or weapons based on collarless passives and spells. Yes, it can be something like Mini Me or Unrestricted or Skill Share.>Act 3For Lab: Ability Syringe from any collar for any abilityFor End path, it is first rare furniture or item then radiated object, which can be any trinket with some other gimmick.For Jurassic Path, it is bones or item then bones again. First bone is a spell, second is a passive. Can be any passive or spell.
>>735117225Not the same anon, but I went back to do all marks with all classes so I got more time to breed/get some good items for act 3. It has been working for me so I would suggest him to take his time if he was struggling before
>>735115374Just cast the forbidden spell again, it'll overwrite your current disorders with new ones.
>>735118973Just breed superluck onto all your cats.We're playing cain now.
>>735118973I'm a pill taker in Isaac but I walk away from events in Mewgenics when given the option every single time. The downsides from bad pills are negligible (yes, even tears down), the bad outcomes from events can ruin you.
Dyslexia is a cool idea but it's so fucking confusing>steven's gristle (+1 damage per kill)>45 -> 47 -> 30 -> 31 -> 32 -> 35 -> 34 -> 33 -> 39 -> 37 -> 38 -> 36 -> 90 (???)I think it tracks the true number internally, but I still can't reconcile that with the numbers on the screen.
>Edmund is sending love letters to retarded fishtank girlsI guess that means no update for the next month at least while he is consumed by fishtank
>>735117958Triachnid is a guy though, the music wouldn't fit him.
>>735119654oh wait I'm fucking retarded.90 is 6036 is 5938 is 58 ...etc
Ah yes, the next step in cat evolutionBackpacks.
>>735119989what's that do
>steam playtime is 90 hours>save playtime is 108 hourshuhwhah
>>735120134Seems fun.
>>735120134gives you stuff after battles iirc
>>735120161I think Steam doesn't keep count if you play it offline, so maybe it's that?
>>735120217i've never been offline playing this
>>735120161Apparently speeding it up can do that
>>735120272oh i exclusively play on 4x maybe that's why
>>735120202>>735120216This looks HORRIBLENot because it's bad, it's probably OP.But more inventory management? Instant pipe for me.
>>735120289Just sort by rarity
>>735120310Most rare items are shitter than less rare...
>>73512041395% of the consumables you find will be common.
>waste a shitload of time getting 4 cats with suicide abilities for c-1000>doesn't work
>>735110431i havent played the game in a week and this house boss is coming up.im afraid that next time i play the game hes gonna destroy me. from what i heard having marked status is very important anything else to know?
>>735120798BLOODZERK NIGGAIT DROPS HIM TO 1 HPHE USES IT
>>735120912see >>735121042>get shitter bloodzerker>walk him towards c1000>c1000 clones this shit cat and uses bloodzerk>c1000 now has 1 hp>walk around til his dodge is gone then attack once
>>735121042I tried getting that, never came up.
I LOVE EATING ROCKS
>>735121120>Rocky McRockersonhe was born to do this
>>735121120All of my nightsI’m eatin' rocks
So is necromancer dogshit or what
>>735121619it's bottom 5 class at least
>cleric got the zoomiesnah it's fine you're a dispenser now, you don't move and we'll all come to you
>>735121619I like it because it's above average in it's solo run potential I had one run where I was spamming the shit out of the mass leech ability and just raped everything (including my teammate but that's besides the point)
finally i got rare furniturewhy does this game have gachaanyway i cleared coven in 2 turns he didn't even get to transform
>>735121619>soul link on everyone>downed>spam random downed boosted skillsgoated i'm afraid
Huh, I am replaying Spewer and honestly there is a scientist that looks a lot like Dr. Beanies in there. I guess that puts even more detail into the callback of Spewer. Kinda makes me curious what other experiements Dr. Beanies did. I didn't get all the donation dialogue for some of the characters yet so I could possibly have not seen it yet
>>735114421I refuse to use hotkeys when I could potentially hit the wrong key and instantly use a forbidden spell
fuck this board holy shit, id rather deal with cherubim
>Finish a run with a cat that got good stuff>Dies in one day from a fightthis game is gay
>>735122086How are angelic cats not the easiest enemy there?I feel blessed when I see them show up as the champion enemies, everything else is a fucking nightmare
Oh? What is it? I'm used to turtles and squirrels and shit.
>>735122509Lame
>>735121760NEED A DISPENSER HERE
>>735122495i played my entire run well and then i get to these niggers and suddenly im in an unwinnable rng fuckfest. i dont even get to play the game anymore because my nuke exploded 3 times and i had to quit out
did you guys notice that individual cats prefer to be picked up with either your left or right handi cant show you because i dont know how to take a screenshot including my cursor
>>735121839Is there a character named Ms. Peptone in it? Beanies mentions this when you enter the Infinite.
>breed the best cat for a solo run>give it blood frenzy from birth so I can't get fucked>first event turns me into a kittenedmund mcfucking kill yourself
>>735122690>i have to redo the entire nuke quest over this shitim going to fucking kill myself
>>735121839that's Dr. Cool, he's Dr. Beanies' father. Dr. Beanies is the one with cancer at the end.
>>735122890so what happens if you're solo and a kitten?
>>735122857I didn't play the whole thing. I kind of got filtered by it since I am not good at physics platformers.
>>735122795Just search for "take a screenshot including my cursor".
i just realized you can use DUMP to protect yourself in adjacent spacesi thought it was just a gag
>>735122467>Dies in one day from a fightup your comfort
>>735122795What do you mean left or right hand?
>>735122795use sharex, you can crop images from your screen with your cursor inif you're in the middle of the game it will appear frozen while you're taking a snap
>>735120798getting a death's scythe is both faster and easier for cheesing the c-1000 btw
>>735123019you can only level up via rare candy and all your stats get reduced to 2 or 3
>>735123112How do I get it? Is it just a random drop?
>>735123146however, they don't get retired so if you do manage to escape you have an EXTRA powerful cat for a future run
>>735123174yeah, i just got it as a random drop but its also a drop from the death event
I cats with all but one 7 state, but they're all related.Man, I don't know how to improve this at this point. Diluting with what little ISN'T related at this point is just going to worsen stats.
>>735123259I have cats with all but one 7 stat*What the fuck is wrong with me.
nah fuck you game. I've tried looting both chaos and king around 5 times each and failed every onewere the odds of this shit ever datamined
>>735123330it's literally a 50/50 coin flip and every point of luck above 5 tips it in your favour and it's also harder and harder in hard+ difficulties to pass the check
>>735123330Fun fact I discovered, you can save scum to avoid the death. If the cat that that retrieves the gear has the gear on during the cutscene, you got the item. If the cat doesn't have gear on, it will die so you could quit before the cutscene is over to save the cat.
>>735123259Don't even try to breed pure bloodlines. Just try to cultivate relatively benign birth defects (especially the ones that multiclass) and rush to get 10 mutations ASAP.Eventually you'll always get cats with 2 birth defects and 10 mutations, but you can throw them in a high birth defect room to cure bad birth defects or just ignore mediocre ones.I haven't taken in a stray in over 500 ingame days.
>>735113476>nicksmith
Huh, didn't know elite buffs stacked like that.I guess that means quadruple depression is possible. I don't like that.
>>735123103thanks anon :)>>735123096the cursor sprite shows either your left or right hand and it seems to be consistent for each cat
>>735123330I've done it like 10 times, only ever died once to Chaos and once to the King.
>>735123330the only retarded thing is that looting chance goes DOWN as you play higher difficulties instead of up.
>>735112962First time blind wiped me because I used a cleric/tank/butcher/fighter team under the assumption I could just shrug off his damage (I had over 100hp on two of them).So the second round I sent in a scat-eating IBS mage with only the +magic damage and utility spells as my damage source, two clerics with passives, and a hunter to sit in the back and lay traps/spawn minions for THOU SHALL NOT KILL+. The enemy AI would clone the mage, waste his movement eating shit, and deal no damage or kill a grub and get stunned.
>>735123730the nanosecond i see a "harder difficulties increase boss loot rate (because you should be rewarded not punished for playing on higher difficulties)" mod i am installing it and never uninstalling
-2 movement for -1 mana collarless spells.Egh. Hrmm.
>>735123330The game will see that you have been clearing round 1 and will ensure this is a 100% death even if you pulled with superluck
>>735123795Minus speed is a fucker of a drawback though
storage locker sidequest tech goes crazy>just go back after the sewers who cares>get insanely good items>bring tinkerer with repair to use it infinitelyI'm trying to get the soul jar but this is getting my good items until then I guess.
>>735123795it's insanely broken for collarless runs you must preserve it at all costs
Act 4 DLC boss just leaked
>>735123872just dont make the same mistake I did >>735113767currently rerunning over and over for another soul jar while breeding a new cat. also pump that motherfucker full of speed because at some point even if I summon from soul jar they don't get a turn to repair unless I pass turns to them
>>735123942I want to say "this isn't really funny" but I know if I say that I'll be called some boomer unc or some flavor of Nazi. It's just trying too hard.
>>735123786it's double retarded because harder difficulties massively improve your loot drops, it's just this one thing that gets worse instead of better
>>735123942As long as it comes with the George Floyd past boss toobalance is key afterall
>>735124319i guess kyle rittenhaus is already a boss as the gunslingeraltho i don't have a problem with his actions, just him as a person
>>735120912you either need a cracked hunter with the never miss perk to kill him in one turn or intentionally give him a shitty cat to copy
>99 cats at home>comfiest room's comfort is in the negativesyou know I think I'll just let them kill each othersort themselves out
quit looking at me with them big ol eyes
>1-3 - Act 1 item/furniture hard mode run>4-6 - Act 2 shimmer/potentially hard mode completion run>7-9 - Act 3 completion marker run>0 - skip final day and just fight the damn house bossDon't ban me janny faggots, its a personal roll.
I cackle every single time Hitler 2 shoots one of his own units. Such a funny boss.
The Creator revives your kitties holy kino
>>735124497>+23 luckhow
>>735124529>furniture hard mode runwait, the furniture you get in hard mode on act 1 is better than a normal run in act 3 to get the guaranteed rare furniture from the future?
BUT MAN DO I SMELL
>>735124497I wish there was a way to guarantee mutations on a certain body part, even if it was run specific like "go to the Moon on Tuesdays for a guaranteed eye mutation." I'm missing so many eyes
>>735124585Superluck passiveaka didn't beat the game
>>735111409>Psychic literally solos the game with Mimic+ and a newborn with split the atom
>>735124625That I don't know, but you do get better rolls on items. Maybe it's the same for furniture.Either way I'm going to go get concussions from Bunga instead.
>your basic attack has a chance to apply a random debufffucking lmao
>>735111030Monk is busted as shit dudeDruid is hot dogshit however
I have 3 cat ribs. I really should start taking one, but I don't really have a cat I'm sending out into the field that I'd want totally save yet ACK.
>>735124724druid is one of the best classes in the game you baiter
GUYS THIS IS NOT A DRILLIHAVE UNLOCKED A NEW SECRET CLASSTHE TRINKET>And yes, I first cleared the rift and only my mage made it out alive, even tho I came in with 5 cats
this game needs item booster packs like isaac
>>735124836There should be an item that lets you escape a run if it's going back and the ability to undo one turn per fight, they could both be unlockables
>>735124779at sucking cocks
>4 PsychicWhat am I in for.
Should I give this Mickey Mouse lookin' ass a .22 rifle OR a shotgun? He has decent movement, but I don't have any items to increase it even more.
>>735125129That sounds kinda faggyI can only see it making it into the game if it replaces all the cats meows with "faggot!" and puts a pink bow on them
I got a skill syringe with a skill one of my cats had and I tried giving it to the cat to see if it got upgraded but it didn't, what the hell mcchudden
>>735125172Just don't go anywhere where magic immunity is a thing and you should be gucchi
>>735125172fat ugly chud cats
>>735125210Why would it upgrade?
>>735125210I expected this when they gave me a wrestle Tank that rolled throw, I just had 2 throws and it was not a good Tank
>>735125513>Can reposition 2 enemies so the suplex always does double damage or x4 if it critsHow is that bad?
>>735125565Yeah but throw comes standard with the wrestlemania passive, it's not a one time use thing
>>735124790tweet jason schrier
>use sniper rifle against enemy with mirror buff>it kills me
>>735125183give him a nuke and the peace amulet that nullifies friendly fire
>>735125713>I already calculated the trajectory of the bullet... Hm, maybe some more spin next time just a reflect and the enemy wont reflect a second time
>>735125713It's pretty funny 95% of the 'champion' buffs are +2 stat, immune to x, or other nothingburgers...And then there's fucking MIRROR SHINE. Hope you aren't relying on projectiles, buddy!
why the fuck is carnibulb allowed what the FUCKthis is not fucking fair you FUCKER
Off to kill our lord and saviour, super meat ball.Here's hoping crazy difficulty is kind to me today.I'll go for dybbuk if I get the right skills.
>>735125890>that adventure linenot a good omen
>>735125890Look at those techy nerds
>RNGslop
>>735125869Carnibulbs always est my fucking tank despite him being like 9 tiles away something always fucking happens
>Give Psychic a fishhook (item that converts knockback into damage)Good god this shit is nuts.
>>735125965Better than poke/kirby/gachaslop like the other threads are
>>735125965>gigachad.pngYes I love RNGslop. How could you tell?
>>735124779the crow is one of the best classes in the game.Druid only has like 3 good spells. The rest are "place flowers in 1 tile" for 6 mana
>>735126000I'm doing solo runs postgame. I have a team of genetically freakgineered hyperniggers and an inventory full of endgame bullshit.I have never actually seen what happens when a carnibulb takes a turn until now and I am SO FUCKING MAD
>>735126180It's hard to think of a bad music spell
>>735112468Butcher and Hunter are arguably too busted or all the other classes need to be buffed to their level. They cover nearly everything important in the game with only weakness being low movespeed, which the game guarantees you have an answer for.Necromancer needs a buff as too many of its kit are anti-synergistic.
>Get Blacksmith on a cat as his first passive>Decide to give him a grenade>It doesn't give it more use like gunsGOD FUCKING DAMNIT
a true critty kat
>>735126515
>>7351263671 use items don't work with hone because they vanish at 0 uses. You need metal coat.
fighter is better than butcherno I will not elaborate
im slowwhat is this "didn't beat the game" thing people keep saying
>>735126670residual soulslike meme about OP strategies not counting as beating the game
>>735122795>>735123596I think it's based on which direction the cat is facing when you pick them up.
Shill all you want, but I will not be putting money in a literal rapist's hands by purchasing this game. Not even worth a pirate.
i've literally been stockholmed into liking the future meets the past
NOOOOOOOOOO
>>735126670fromslop brain damage is contagious
Am i just getting super unlucky or is super luck not transferrableon the beta branch
>>735126896Come on /v/ is still on this? Vinny is innocent.
>>735126896There is no evidence that Chris raped Barb. Incest, yes, but not rape.
>the game itself knows mage is fucking worthless
I'm glad to support rapists and the games that feature them as I am pro-rape, thank you for bringing this game to my attention.
>>735126180no, you're just shit. give a druid a dead bird head and see what happens
why the fuck is hitler singing about hulk hogan
>>735126670if you need to use the things the devs put into the game themselves for you to use to beat the game, you did not beat the game
>>735127058what's the problem
>>735127284>Ed puts this in and still rates the class highly
I got kitten called Laharl with Soul Link on area spell
>>735127592>raging homosexualyeah that checks out
>>735127626
>>735126670Summoning (co-op) trivializes souls games to a hilarious degree. Souls is relatively challenging when played solo so it created a butthurt divide that became a meme.
God trying to take a Mage or Psychic through DAS FUTURE is so shitty.Almost all of these make them useless.
>>735126642The only mewgenics player with a brain
>>735127760become entropy just fucking works on anything
roast me
>>735127760Oh you should try Tinkerer thereNot fucking fun
>>735127835yep, if something doesn't have a symbol for an element or damage type, then enemies who are "immune" to it can still be hit by it even if it doesn't make sense
dreadnoughtus is pretty flexible
>>735127890the fuck are you doing with all the cats in the attack
>>735127901Tinker is a blast there, it's core that fucking sucks
>>735127890everyone laugh at anon's little tree! it's so small!
>>735112468It's the only skill where I can't think of a situation where you wouldn't pick it. Even a familiar build would want that as an emergency button. Yeah the Future exists but scattershot is extremely useful in The End so even in future runs it's worth taking.
>true endingan attempt was made
>>735127962bigger than your tree faggot
>>735127939Other then bombs and RPG he's fine thereEvery tech level can make something electric and I really fucking don't want that in the future
>>735127926Most milquetoast boss in the game. They really shoulda went the flintstones angle and put the cavemen there, make ice age something else
>>735127939*powers up your groyperbots* heh, just a little present from me, the humble catbot.
>>735127890Other then food this is fineJust hurry up and turn that empty room into a fight pit
>>735127939>most of tinker's damage is projectiles, electricity, and magicnot really seeing the vision here bwo
>>735128105what is the benefit of a fight pit? i've seen a bunch of anons have a dedicated room for cat fights but i don't get why, is it to farm dead cats or what?
>>735128058Ice Age going from unga bunga music featuring warring clans of werecats and cavemen, to Jurassic with actual dinosaurs exhibiting behavior similar to their irl counterparts, is funny.
three completely different bloodlines produced primordial dwarves mere days apart, shit is contagious
>>735128163you don't have to hurry for a fightpit because you might not yet have the idol of chaos which makes fights deadlier, or enough cats to tank deaths. the point of them is that some cats emerge as champions, AKA your previously okay-almost good yet incredibly aggressive age 2 cat now has +1 or even +2 to several stats because he spent all night fighting low tier strays in the pit and winning.
>>735128163Winner of the fights get stat ups and might earn a place in expedition. Loser gets injured (get to donate to the furniture seller kid) or dead (get to donate to the mystery man who collects dead cats)
>>735128163Serves several purposes:>Low comfort means no breeding so your unwanted offspring will stay seperated>You eventually get an idol to double the stat gains from fights at the cost of the other cat being more likely to die>Making the fight pit high mutation can also be used to gain more mutations for stats while also gaining stats from fighting>Fight room effectively helps with overpopulation by churning cats together until you get high quality ones for adventures while cutting a lot of chaff from your breeding pool>Injury production can be used to boost jacks shop rarity.>Good place to jam appeal furniture since you dont need comfort or stim.also on occasion even a bad cat will win a bunch of fights and end up the best thing in your house, especially in a high mutation fight room where theyll be dipping into more stats.and another underrated aspect:>Poor health fight rooms can also be used to draft for diseases and disorders that you might want
>>7351281631.Winning cats will get a stat up, if they keep winning they will be a pretty damn good cat that can probably carry by itself2.Thins out numbers, makes the daily clearance not as painful3.Free bodies/Injuries for Organ grinder/JackJust don't put cats with super good abilities/combos in there until you are pumping them out daily
>>735128123He has multiple abilities like rocket skates and rocket ride that involve shitting out explosive damage at will. He even has a passive where he shits and farts himself into an explosion literally every time he takes damage, which synergizes with his self-harm abilities.
>>735127926Range attacks make the feet move 2 tilesThe feet should apply an injury when they deal damageand an instakill after enough are applied
>>735128385Yeah but it's often a choice to run that and go to the coreYou don't get much say in spawning electric weapons that not only fuck you if you hit most of the enemies, takes TWO FUCKING TURNS to get a new one, at least with bombs you can sling it and make a new weapon right away
>>735127926>>735128058Would the stomps being an instakill make it balanced for where it is or too hard?
>>735128163base stats only go to 7they can go higher via mutations but there is a limit a fight pit is limitless free stat boosts - provided that they stay alive long enoughwith the chaos idol the stat rewards from winning go from +1 to +2 so they quickly start stacking upa broken paw giving -1 str means fuck all if he wins the next fight giving him +2 backeven better if you have health items in there it could even fix the paw so that's a +3and they keep stackingalso lets you farm dead cats and injured cats for house upgrades, stops breeding cuz of the negative comfort and is all in all a great way to solve the exponential exploding kitten populationthrow some mutation items in there as well fuck it, let the freak show truly thrive
>>735128485i expected there to be 3 legs with one spot being a shadow that gets darker and eventually instakills the target since the splash art features dreadnoughtus stepping on a corpse, but he is so kind that he merely shoves my kitties away from his footsteps. easier than act 1 bosses
Oh nooo, ghostly weather proccing fire flies on Fenrir fight. Would be a shame if Fenrir's bush got caught in fire
>>735128593I'd add more knockback so the chances of getting combo'd between legs are higherinstakill is excessive
>>735128603>RanjeetSAAR!
>>735128646He rivals the Coven in terms of pitifulness
>>735127472He got mana meld so he could forcefeed mana to a Wrath of God Cleric to clear up every encounter in a few casts or Chosen Warrior so my fighter could just spam basic attacks on bosses until they died(he also had Charge up which let him cast a spell the next turn if he had 0 mana which had great Mana Meld Synergy but it never became relevant).So he basically carried my run.I apologize mageKINGS.
unga is actually somewhat threatening because of his instakill but dreadnaughtus is a complete and utter fucking chump>do 55 damage twice>great now you have 3 turns to win a dps race where the punishment for failure is having to do 55 damage twice again
>>735128682We have a poster in these threads named Ranjeet funnily enough
>>735128494That's why I don't go all-in on weapons unless I get the make weapon dupe ability or can reliably keep tech up. You can also draft a robot yourself like the turrets or a healer.
>>735128593Give the stomps the same earth damage effect as the attack version, and give it a highly telegraphed instakill like the alien boss'
Dybbuk:>Check out how hard you can pee.
>>735128834>dreadnaughtus is a complete and utter fucking chumpNice normal difficulty run fag.
>>735128939correct normal is how the game is normally meant to be played and is the intended experience the devs wanted their players to have
>>735128935you fucking people are insane i'm just trying to play this game casually after work
>>735128834What if the punishment for the boss geating back up was a roar that pushed you back like throbbing king's ball explosion, except it also gave you an injury
>>735128939he doesn't do anything special in any other difficulty, it is all elite buffs you have been dealing with already before reaching act 3.
>>735128875Yeah same,I've still never seen Blacksmith or Repair and I have finished all areas, my storage is pretty much 33% weapons I have been hoardingI did start taking Uzi+Screwdriver with weapon master Fighters
>>735128935kinoshould be an easy throbbing domain run unless you get a bunch of meat boys
>>735128935Show how he fucked up the other 3
does deploying with an old cat do anything?
>>735129245The game becomes unc slop
>>735129245Exhaustion in 5 turns for him
>>735129245Gets Exhausted at turn 5Only really a factor for the last bosses and house fights
>Opening the rift means losing your KaijuI. Am. PISSED! This ugly chaotic motherfucker did something with my Space Kaiju Cat and she hasn't returned after I wiped the floor with that ugly bastard face. Somebody PLEASE tell me she'll be alright? ZARATANAAAAAAA!
>>735129043It was though even if I ended up against a reflect elite or something my other cat could apply over 60 perma bleed thorns to himself a turn and just pull meat ball into himself, it was glorious. Most of the run was done with mass hysteria culling the chaff.>>735129171I'll get it in a sec if you want but really it's exactly what you think.
>>735127974it one or two shots the Mother at the End, which is always funny.
>>735129489They're not dead, just flailing
>>735129489Her cries of pain as our cats tried to save her made me sad, she just wanted a vacation...
>>735129770she seems...ok?
>>735129675No need to bother, I can imagineI'm glad it doesn't overkill corpses
>zaratana came from the depths of space and wanted to go towards the lowest point of the earth>pyrophina came from the depths of earth and wanted to go highest point of spacebrehs...
>>735129489that is really a plot line thats left open, I really hope a dlc addresses this and you can save Pyrophina.
So what will the DLCs be titled? Can't call them "something"-birth or "re-"something anymore.
>>735129905Mewtations and Mewcleur Warfur
>>735129905Reanimated
>>735129905mewgenics-the neutering
>>735129905Mewgenics - Catastrophe
>>735129905shit n' kaboodle
>>735129935It IS a mask!
>>735129770FUCK! I need to bring her home! She is my cat, not the rifts'.
i got to be tuffthis world is so ruffgot to be tuffgot got got to be tuff
i've heard people have been complaining that the game is uglyis that what you fucking want huh
Man I love the adventure prep screen music.
>>735130374"ugly" is codeword for "i can't beat off to it"
>>735130374LOLWew boy, you know somebody is getting grilled big time for this DLSS Fiasco
>>735130660>he can't jack off to vanilla marshmallow and aliceweakWEAK
>>735130374It's hard to fight back against because Edmund's art is very intentionally ugly due to the subject matter, but with a cute cartoonish, childlike "drawing in the margins of your homework" style. But it's easy to point out cute designs, this fella looks like Kirby, everyone loves Kirby. It's a cohesive looking game, you wouldn't think Tormentor looks out of place next to Zodiac.
>>735130692the jurassic is the most moe area in the game
Alright boys, let's decide what our demands for the DLC are.>Spreadsheet menu to organize and look at cats>More classes and areas (duh)>Option to change the music played in areas>Way to save your kaiju cat>>735130692I'd argue you have it backwards, his style isn't intentionally ugly, it's actually cute. His style though is more about making ugly things cute.
>>735130374Not gonna say im not biased, because I've been playing edmunds games since the flash days.But I think the game looks genuinely fantastic and I cannot see why people would think it's ugly.>Pretty fucking smooth animations by edmunds standards, bosses especially are nice and bouncy and expressive.>The desaturation on furniture making them blend perfectly into the rooms>Good direction for the other artists so the painterly shit mixes well with the clean vector graphics>Really clean but stylized menusThe entire game feels like it was made in better times.>>735130692Are people really calling it ugly because its vaguely grotesque? For me when a game is ugly its because its incohesive, unreadible, full of random particle effects and blur etc. The entire game is just so clean. I was worried the other artists would fuck it up but it fits together very nicely.
>>735130803>>735130767You're right but I assume those not familiar with it call it ugly, because this is what people have told me when I show the game to them. Namely the color palette which I personally enjoy, this game would look like shit if it was colorful like a mobile game. The muted palette lets things stand out more, plus it fits the setting. I simply can't separate my bias from how much I already enjoyed Edmund's games.>>735130724Correct.
>>735130753Vast majority of fanart for this game is genuinely repugnant-looking, and not even in the Edmund's quirky way.
>>735130995there's some gems here and there but act 1 having fat women was a mistake
>>735130995I think that’s just sturgeon's law.
what's the best class for on-hit effects? i dont wanna sound like a league of legends player but regular peak hunters are like the equivalent of caitlyn. what class can do a kogmaw?
I think the beef with the game's look is that the cat graphics look utterly incomprehensible in some cases. Add a bunch of equips and they look like a mess of thick lines. I know the game's concept begets making ugly cats but there's probably an expectation of how that should look.
I find it amusing that half of Radical Rat's intro messages are hints to disarm the bombs.Because you just know they’re there because in testing some people were just not fucking reading.
>>735130767For DLC I mostly want to see what we already got expanded. And while we probably shouldnt compare it to isaac too much I think isaac did a ton right in terms of replay value->Boss Variations like in isaac for elite bosses, also a way to expand the boss pool for chapters 2/3/4>Stage Variations with tweaked enemy pools and such, dark side of the moon, stinky sewers, sheol hell etc>More minibosses so it's not bloat every single time>Dead cats can very rarely come back as attic ghosts so we can have a lost equivilant. >Challenge runs that use pre-built Stacy#'s >Optional fights that expand the hard mode routeFor new classes we got butcher(preset weapon), tinkerer(crafts weapons), monk (preset both). So id want a class that crafts consumables like an alchemist or something.
>>735131253Druid gets it in an area, though with the caveat that it becomes hazardous to use on your teammates (and comes with a slight buff for hit enemies)Monk gets multiple attacks per turn by default and needs stuff like this due to lowered base damage.
>>735131285With pictures like this >>735125890 is it really hard to tell that these are 4 characters with items equipped? If you play the game you can recognize items and certain mutations. Line thickness details where each character begins and ends. When it comes to stick legs, yeah it gets hard to tell.
>>735131394To clarify, I should've said that yes, you can recognize them as characters, but the debate is over it looking "good".
>>735131329imagine a priest character who prays hard for your deceased cats for a chance to make a warrior's spirit appear in your attic, a reincarnation of a cat that has 1 HP and 1 holy shield, the joke is that he hates you for being undead and a sin, and is appalled that his prayers are causing blasphemous things to happen, so once your ghost kitty dies, it's exorcised which upgrades him.>challenge runsplaying as enemy cats would be fun but i doubt that would happen. maybe more escort quests.
>>735131253monk is the obvious one, but psychic gets some passives that can let you spam basics or multiply debuffs
Trying to keep producing all 7 cats while keeping your 3 OP mutations and somehow making sure to dilute the inbreeding is a pain in the ass.
>>735131650Inbreeding goes away with a few loads dumped into a stray but it really shouldn't matter unless you keep getting bad defects. All my best cats are inbred.
>>735131503A priest would be fun, especially since its the boonies, fun redneck pastor archetype. That or a conspiricy type who talks about hauntings and shit. I feel like if we got ghost cats they should specifically be ones that died in your house and haunt it.I really would want challenge runs though, it's a good way to show off synergies with prebuilts, and shit like the TMTRAINER challenge in isaac is still worth going back to every now and then for the lulz.>>735131650Inbreeding is just a numbers problem. If you have 60 cats all with the mutations and stats you want producing horrible inbred monsters, you can still take the mountain of kittens and sift through the good ones and throw the rest in the fight/mutation pit unless its the really bad defects like cataracts, blindness or perma slow. I have rerolls and 7's on everything but I leave the rest up to random chance and mutation so I have some variety. Multiclass fur defects are fun ones too.
>>735124319Yeah, and then the third house boss lets you pick a side between them like the kaijus
>>735131253There is a druid ability that makes it so you can't buff the enemy and vice versa for your team, as well as one that refreshes attack when you use a song ability, that plus status on attack is very amusing to pull off especially vs bosses where they take multiple turnsBonus that the crow will also apply that status effect and if it's fire the wind element makes it stack moreThe only caveat is that druid is naturally squishy without a lot of movement abilities so if you do move into range you are getting slapped for it
Man, is it just me or all these Acts final boss soundtracks telling me a story about somebody? I had recently beat The Rift and it lyrics aligns, at some points in the song, to what they say about the Throbbing king.
>>735132189>lyrics about a mad scientist trying to use a time machine to bring back their catI wonder who they could be talking about....surely the throbbing king.....
what rooms should i have?i have >breeding room>fightroom+mutation room>retired cats + no breeding roomI'm not sure if i'm doing it right, also my cats are moderately imbred. I'm not sure if i'm doing it right, like my breeders are gonna get old and die, i'm not sure how to replace them, do i use their kids? do i have to make the offspring fuck another? I'd just get worse and worse imbreeding defects
I want to kill Steven
Don't ever use sparkles on Spewer, worst mistake of my fucking life
>>735132320what happens? does he just get stuck in a vacuum attack loop?
>>735132348yes
>>735132269Inbred isn't always bad unless your positive mutations get outnumbered by birth defects. For instance if this cat fucked her inbred brother there will be a higher chance for the offspring to have new, negative birth defects. If you're pumping out enough kittens then that won't be a problem since you can cull the reject kittens (eugenics) but introducing strays can stifle this. She has a partner though so you'd have to separate them.Be careful, that covid can spread at home.
>>735132320This happened to my mage when I accidentally pathed into creepIs there actually a way to free them? even stuns wont work i'm guessing he still holds onto themKinetic sparkles feel like a detriment most of the time, lots of enemies will react when they take damage
>>735112739As long as you make sure you don't go into the moon boss fight with too many charges, you are pretty much set. It's not a hard quest overall. I never found out what happens when the knife explodes.
>>735132320Don't fear Bunga either, fucking scary shit
>>735132269Have one room for health. It helped me cured so many awful diseases Like Bird Flu and Covid. Downsides is that I had to leave my cat in that room for like 7 to 10 days.
>>735132529if the unit he sucks in has sparkles, you might as well count it as dead, there's no way to free it since when he spits it out, the sparkles just make him suck it back in
>>735132509>>735132509okay so say i introduce a stray, the new kittens wouldn't really have many good stats or the odds of them getting perfect 7s like one of their parent is a gamble even with high stimulation. Do i just get one offspring witth that stray that has good stats and then imbreed it again?
>"Oh, he's the king, Were all expected to kiss the ring">Throbbing king casts KNEEL!I wished more games have moments like this during boss theme songs
How do I breed a Vegeta-cat?
>>735132597It's highly likely the kids won't be pure 7's but this game works on an inbreeding coefficient that exists in real life. You can get a far less inbred cat in about 3 generations as long as you're not making sibling or parent incest too often. This is why you don't trash strays if they aren't perfect, if they have that missing 7 you need it. But again you don't need to run towards a house of no inbred cats.
>>735128935lol
>>735111383>The sudden mouse movementActual kino
>>735132269You just need more cats tbqh. Ditch the fight pit for a few days and make it another room for breeding. Your fight pit should never outnumber your regular cats unless you're at 40+ cats.
