Slay the Spire 2 thread. Which character's backstory appeals to you the most?
The new vulnerability synergies on the ironclad feel underbaked, why did they give all his status cards to the defect?
>>735113921me on the right (im trans)
>>735113921he has more vulnerability play than he did in sts1, and strike and exhaust builds are both stronger. but barricade builds have suffered
>>735113921Regent by such a wide margin. Love this little starnigga like you wouldn’t believe.
>>735113921I find it funny that Silent hunts big things just to get street cred in her coven of swamp murderous bitches.
>>735113921>tried to make friendsnot beating the outwardly mesugaki inwardly soft allegations
>>735114508>returns after centuries mia>sisters just say "that monster looks like it was tiny"brutal
>>735114281>why did they give all his status cards to the defectHe needed the gains to bulk up.Completed my first A10, came to share
The lantern key isn't really worth it
>>735114605She's also dying and they apparently don't give a shitSilent had a hard life.
>>735114778Yes it is retard fuck you
>>735114605Unless the Architect has a JRPG second phase they're probably not going to be impressed this time either.
>>735114605Nah they called it (a piece of A20 Heart) an "ugly pulsating scrap" and said it was a shit trophy. At that point she should have just killed those bitches herself
>>735114640cute lil nigga by your sidecongrats
>>735114778cool take, i bet you also think the anchor also sucks
>>735114778It feels a lot more significant with how rare passive energy generation is now.
>>735114893yeah it sucks and fucks
>>735114912Oh fug I can't read. The lantern key is insane, reverse echo form from the relic you get is fucking gamebreaking.
https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=slay&no=253002&search_head=90&page=1In case anyone wanted it, the instructions on how to install the anime regent mod are here.
>>735114963stupid town is that way, anon. dont miss the bus.
>>735114778The history lesson is amazing. But the fight for the key can be something you find yourself very unprepared for. Knight does like 3 turns of pretty heavy damage to open.
tiny deck = tiny penis
>>735115097i dont have to prove anything
>>735114339I disagree. There's a lot more consistent ways to build up block so that you can actually make use of barricade>goopy defends>vambrace>Immovable >the -1hp +8 block each turn power >calipers replacement way better suited to starting off your block before barricade The only thing you really lost was entrench.
What's the game plan for Ironclad's exhaust build? I tried one run and Fiend Fire and Ashen Strike do good damage but it doesn't feel like it'll scale well into higher ascensions where you might run out of cards to burn.
>>735115237"Keep any remaining block up to 10" is so much insanely better than "lose 15 remaining block every turn" that it's ridiculous
>>735115097I naturally have a big deck, I can't imagine what its like playing with a small deck. What's fun about playing with small decks? I just don't get it.
That energy rebalance was fucking stupid. Snecko eye, nightmare, various powers were all designed with the expectation that the player will see the fourth energy. Now they're basically bricks.
>>735114995Sorry I can't read moonrunes, I'll wait until someone makes a non-ai mod.
>>735114813I feel like you're too fixated on the reward, and missing the fact that you have to take an extra relic less elite fight, then lug a curse around for an act, in order to get the final reward. You're literally trading your strength in one act to get strength in a later act. Lantern key is like a worse risk/reward version of sts1 arena fight.
>>735115345The card illustrations are AI but the sprite mod is made by hand since it'd be hard to get AI to do 3D godot models and animations.
>>735114281it's underbaked because thunderclap, taunt and vicious end up drawing your entire deck.
>>735115283the gameplan is exhausting all the trash in your deck except your really efficient cards until you only draw gas, or infinite combo your enemies
whats the meta thing to do on high asension, I could win easily below like A9 now enemies hit too much and too much health to do my usual tactics.I just die, like I don't know if I should avoid elites or what, are ? good to aim for or?
ngl the game gets boring once you've figured out what works
>>735114870Got him early, carried me hard
>>735115283Make thrash really big or get rid of all your trash to go infinite with bloodletting for energy generation and pommel strikes to draw.
>>735115589It's just time to lock in and try-hard the micro management in the fights to preserve every bit of HP. Also try harder to avoid hard hallway fights, events are good.
What do you guys think of 333 gold and an eternal curse starting option?
>>735115978I hate it
>>735115978it's okay if you have an early shop and then multiple elites to kill with what you get from the shop.
>>735115978It's okay, especially on low ascensions. It's basically just an Ascender's Bane + money.
>>735114640>brought the birb all the way Based. And it even fits the zero cost archetype.
>>735115978I don't like the idea of another eternal curse in a deck that already has ascension's bane but honestly it's probably pretty good still.
>>735115978Absolutely not worth an eternal curse. The effect is especially nasty when you already have ascender's bane, you can draw some absolute bricks in act 1.
>>735116221at least they could make it etherealyou're going to keep drawing that shit all cyclesit's so bad
Is it me or are shops significantly worse in this game. The relic pool is so diluted with borderline useless trash and they're also more expensive now, so going to the shop hoping it will give you a significant power boost is a fantasy. You can have 600 gold and not want to buy anything.
>>735116007>>735116060>>735116158>>735116194>>735116221End of act 1 and I seem to be having an alright time so far, granted its only ascension 2.
>had 3 Calm retains and Ice Cream>ended up with an 8 hit Expunger+
I love playing silent and not getting offered one BLUR or one TACTICIAN or one REFLEX or even one PREPARED (that is a COMMON) and only one acrobatics for the whole game
>>735115237barricade is harder to find and entrench was t he best card with it, and it was itself relatively common. vambrace probably triggers before you have barricade active and goopy is very, very, very rare to come across. Barricade isn't dogshit or anything but it was much much easier to pull off in 1.
Thoughts on this ancient relic?
>>735116936Scales pretty well with any energy card you can retain, decks that have 5 mana every turn, or in 0 cost decks, but is pretty useless otherwise.
Im not gonna lie. The original game was better. By adding more cards they have made it REALLY fucking hard to build a coherent deck in sts2. I really like the mechanic of how you can enchant your cards. I think they need to increase the card rewards you can choose from to 4 by default in the new game that might fix it.
>>735116936Pretty nice bad luck protection in the early-game, if you end up with useless cards for the situation you can potentially salvage something next turn.
>>735116936Only time I picked it so far was when I had that 0 cost give 4 energy card from Defect, that was pretty good.
>>735116936one of the only cool new onesthe other ones all seem like>gives 1 energy after turn 8; rapes youfuckin dodecahedron tier bullshit
>>735117065I mostly agree. Game's too easy and the elites are severely unmemorable; after 40ish hours I can't even tell you what all the Act 3 elites are. It's fun, but hopefully they can bring it to at least parity with 1's tightness over time. Multiplayer is cool at least.
>>735116936a net of -1 energy turn 1 for +1 energy every turn after with the ability to cash in the bonus for another +1 is pretty good. Basically a better bread, and bread is actually pretty strong if you have any way of not eating shit turn 1.
>>735116936Situationally good if you somehow have a bunch of energy generation but no card draw, but 9/10 times I'm picking something else.
>>735116936sometimes you have no more cards worth playing but still have energy. Its pretty good. But also it enables inadvisable greedy plays if your hoping for a cracked hand next turn
Damn it really is a different game after you reach a9 huh...trying to get my first a10 win and I must have lost 7 honest tries in a row or so as necrobinder. Up to 8 I thought he had the easiest early game by far and thats why i went with him for first char to clear but the new damage numbers combined with the low base max hp which means lower percentage based healing makes it such a struggle. What do you guys think performs the best a9+ on your average run? Got the rest up to 7 and thinking of switching it up
*pollutes your rare pool*
>>735117728I see three good cards bwi
>>735117728brother regent has a grand total of like 6 good rares out of 26
>>735115978It's great if you get an early shop. Biggest secret is you don't actually have to fight elites, and you can get a really good skeleton of a starter deck with 400 gold.Also every class has some form of exhaust or discard you want to click on every run anyway, like Regant's Charge or Minion Block, Necrobinder's Seance, or anything that says "discard" in Silent.
anyone wanna do a coop run? A4, but if you're lower ascension that's fine toosteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243007473617/76561198035299171
Regent best potion is forge potion iykyk
i have 128 max hp but somehow im going into the door maker with only 43im gonna lose
>>7351179953/4 get in here boys
Is the extra damage for cards drawn on murder effected by corrupted -2hp for 50% extra damage enchantment?
>>735118071>went into last rest with less than 20 hp>or super greededbwo... its over
>>735118243Yes.
Do I attack or hold?
>>735118307untouchable neutralize pass
>>735118307you gotta neutralize
>playing Necrobinder>first 3 card rewards are geared toward ethereal>want to try it>game just keeps teasing me with mediocre ethereal cards every time I'm thinking of pivoting>miraculously make it to the end of act 3 with an abortion of a deck that has maybe 1 good ethereal scaling card>last shop has a copy of putrefy, debilitate, and a bury+>last ? room lets me corrupt bury+>these three cards singlehandedly saved my assWhat an insanely fucking scuffed run. These were the last two rooms before the boss camp, too.
>>735118307you are going to kill yourself retard
>>735118307Play if you want to take 40 damage
Neutralize should reduce damage by 9, so it's worth the thorns hit.
>>735115383quadball nigga is 1/3 of an elite and having a single curse card in your deck is not an issue for pretty much anybody, as they all have ways to draw, discard, exhaust, etc. for like half a floor for this minor inconvenience, you get a relic which can double powers, deal a fuckload of damage, heal you, etc. and it does it on every single turn (after the first) unconditionally AND you get to pick what it's doing
>>735118307also a fight where shiv retain power comes in clutch
You walk into the Spire and this guy slaps your ass. What do you do?
>>735113921The fact Regent never had friends on his own planet and had to attempt to make his own is sad in its own way.
She’s so much better than the first silent. I haven’t used poison yet
>>735118519Die.
>>735115978there is not a single thing in the game which is worth taking an eternal curse for, there's a few and they're all so hilariously underpowered for a Curse of the Bell I pray they change every single onegreed, folly and enthralled (especially that one) are so fucking bad it's unreal
>>735118519
>>735118560>I haven’t used poison yetWho's gonna tell him?
>>735118661I find poison and turtling down often viable in this one.
>>735116936definitely a 'win more' relicthe game feels even more designed around 3 energy than 1 did, so having 4 usually just feels like a nice extra, but because of that, you can absolutely leave 1 energy open if you have more than 3 from another sourceon 3 energy, it's kind of rough at least the first time you do it, but if you get an easy first turn then you can have 4 effective energy per turn for the rest of the fight, and 5 in an emergency
>>735118613folly is a net 4 removes how the fuck is that bad? Compare it to empty cage which only gives -2 and is already decent enough to pick.
>>735118613Enthralled is fine, you just exhaust the card.It overperforms for me on Ironclad/Necro
>>735118661tell him what? that accelerant rapes bosses and he should take bubble bubble every time he sees it?
Man, I am having a reeeal tough time with beating the first run with defect. I just can't seem to keep a single orb archetype, I get close to a good deck and then every single card is just other shit.
>>735119002>single orb archetypewhy would you do this?
>>735119071because I'm retarded and just experimenting trying to figure out how the game works.
>>735118280my deck is garbage. i wanted to build into doom but i ended up doing all my damage by very slowly scaling the card that scales with ethereal by one or two on every cycle of my 28 card deck. still won because haunt+souls are op and its door man
should a level 10 grand master casual jump in now or wait until full release?
The more I play this the more I feel like I shouldn't have.
>>735116936It's very goodThe reason for that is simple, you often don't need to play your full hand in fights. If the enemy isn't attacking you'll often play one power or attack and not play your blocks, so this turns into free energyIt becomes significantly better once you have even one energy card such as bloodletting or turbo or anything of the sort. then you'll convert one of the extra energy from that card into +2 energy for every turn after
>>735119271Bro, watch a tutorial or a card tier list.
>>735114995You thought about just ending it all?
>Literally.
Greed is good.
Going from 60 fps to 144 fps is so fucking smooth holy shitDidn't expect that much of a difference from a card game
>>735119423You thought about having another autistic meltdown?
>>735119536You will never fuck a child, muhammad
>>735119330
>>735119575>>735119423
>>735114995He said fatly
its fucking happening
>Infinite abusers will get RAPED and GAPED in the first balance patchkek
>>735114995you will never be a woman
>>735119717>>735119649
>>735114995It's not the sprite mod though. It just links to the locked patreon.
>>735119536You are posting little anime girls on 4chan and you call others autistic?
A2 host lobby, any ascension welcomesteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243009708969/76561197998025205
>>735119770>you are posting anime girls on the anime websitedamn that's crazy bro
>>735119756The sprite mod is done by a different guy but it's still listed there and linked there, you'll have to either pay the $2 or wait for someone to leak it.
>>735119623No but seriously. Read a guide my guy
>>735119696Already beaten the game with all the characters
>>735119836>muh anime websiteYou are even dumber than you sound, also your parents are disappointed in you.
was gonna make an on topic post but i see its a bad time and i will just get ignored while the tranime faggot posts his garbage and everyone replies to it
>>735119770Yes, replying to the same post you hate ten times in a row and sperging out for the better part of a day over anime pictures on a site made for them does make you autistic.
>>7351198162/4
>>735119896This is more attention than his parents have ever given him, be nice
>he's going to samefag and have a melty for 300 posts over one anime picturenot mentally ill behavior btw
>>735119903>replying to the same post twiceHoly fuck you actually are autistic.Also maybe several people are tired of your bullshit. Ever considered that?4chan was inspired by 2chan which was used to discuss anime and video games and other things. That doesn't mean every fucking board is about anime you braindead fucking retard. If that were true, why would they create a board specifically to discuss anime? Lord have mercy on your retarded soul.
>>735120026tired of what? he made one post and you sperged out for 10 posts in a row, when you could have just ignored him
If you '''won''' with a sealed deck you did not, by any conceivable stretch of the imagination '''beat the game.'''
>pretty good run>run into hunter killer for my third combat encounter on my third node in act 2I hate this nigger like you wouldn't believe.
>>735119816waiting on 2 more, pull up
>>735120147The fuck is a sealed deck?
The chinese have pretty good memes actuallyYou don't even need to know Chinese to understand what this guy is trying to say here since these damage limit enemies are really annoying
>>735120181Feels good how Necro basically doesnt give a shit about him
>>735120124I'm not him tho?
>>735120226Custom game option that completely breaks the game.
So, I just got the game, been playing like 20hr the last couple days, it's fun, I beat a couple runs on the rogue, the king guy and the necro.I see there are epochs for beating x bosses and x elites and stuff with the characters, is there a reason I might need to hunt down specific bosses? Like will I eventually get to "have to beat every variant of enemy" to unlock more?
Getting snecko on skelly and just grabbing 2-3 copies each of reap, bury and lethality is funny.
GG nerds. 8=D
>>7351198163/4
>one guy doing a really slow 10 damage-per-hit hellraiser infinite in a co-op run
>>735120464I'm impressed he managed to get it off turn 1, but...
Ironchud players making everyone sit on the bench with their damn hellraiser builds
>>735120464>>735120495>>735120501I-i-i'm sorry... ;-;
>really terrible starting hand on arena event first fight>smoke bomb>Well done! Want to try the next fight?>sure, why not>kill it in two turns
>>735120543yer good lol, gg
>>735120543S'ok, my build was ass. GG all
BrosI love claw builds
NEVER PLAYING THIS SHIT HALF ASSED CHARACTER EVER AGAIN HOLY FUCKI beat act 3 first try with Ironclad, Defect and Silent
>>735120335I don't think there is anything that specific to unlock epochs. Most of it is accumulated score, beating ascensions and killing X number of elites or bosses.
>>735120464>one guy uses Fight Me on the Beefucker Turn 1
>>735117728there are tons of cards that deal damage and this also scales with the card that gives you strength when you take damage on your turn
>>735117728>>735120686are hp loss builds even good?i guess they will be better once they fix the ez infinite
How do we fix Regent?
>>735120850multihit lowered a tiercards get more modifiers on them instead of them aLL being fucking powers
>>735120808I've had far more success with ultra offense. Remove all skills and use expect a fight and Pillage to draw and play your whole deck>>735120850Forge cards need to be buffed.
>>735120850Instead of nerfing stars, just make his other options better
>>735120850>change parry to give block whenever you forge>make parry a common so you actually fucking see the card>all the cards that generate colorless crap are free the turn you generate themHe's only bad because you're forced to tunnel stars and the only card that's good outside of star cards is bulwark.
>>735120850At least make sovereign blade 1 cost
>>735120850Start with 5 stars by default would go a long way desu. And change prophesize to 1 coast, draw 4/6
>>735120850Buff forgeStars are probably fine since it's inconsistent as fuck anyway and every other class can win if they get their one perfect build since the game is currently extremely inbalanced in general.
>>735120850When you play a minion card it summons a minion that gives you 1 plate and hangs out with youAdd powers that give the minions bonus effects that synergize with other builds (forge 1 per turn per summoned minion, add 1 star at end of turn per minion, add 1 strength to minion attack cards per minion, sacrifice all summoned minions to block next attack, etc.)Add back in that Watcher card that makes retained cards cost 1 less per turnThat's it, he's fixed
>>735121020That sounds like it would be really busted, it makes every single facet of his builds viable, at the same time.
>>735120850Buff Forge and Colorless Creation
>>735120808Isn't the HP loss build the only other method of generating fucktons of strength (via Rupture) that isn't the Dominate method; which is alright for boomeran/whirlwind/tear asunder and generates decent block via Bloodwall/Crimson Mantle.
>>735120850Just give him a way to lower the cost of sovereign blade to 1
I am... forgotten....
>>735121098You make the powers that make the minions actually do stuff expensive and it'll even out.
>>735121174There's a mod that ports watcher to STS2
>>735121174I havent forgotten PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>735121165>>735121009Instructions unclear, raised cost of sovereign blade to 3.
Regent is fun, hope they give his other packages a little more love because right now you just want to do star shenanigans with a thin deck.Yet again, another deck that could conceivably go infinite but doesn't need to.
>>735120590>not censoring the namesNice job Self Taught Sure Retard
>>735113921Never noticed before now the minion on the right had the yams out>>735116709It's not you
>>735121331>he is actually GujinRetard
>>735121259This will go wonderful unguarded against the boss's 60 atk ass rape move
>>735121331jokes on you i'm chinese
>>735121331>steam doxxing me and you're not even complaining about the right guy
>>735120621Reagent really does suck.
>>735121375Yeah all the forge shit is so bad since the enemies rape you while you're busy trying to ramp up and you get utterly fucked vs the damage limit bosses.
that's it?
>>735121375The enemy cannot do a 60 atk ass rape move if you disable his existence
>>735121481>ooooo im xummming inswide you hubby@@@
Lost 2 runs against test subject's intangible bullshit haha
>Regent is badddd waaaahjust get lucky retards. You are a Gamblechad, right?
>>735115283I got a relic that made all my strikes and defends ethereal. Pretty much annihilated stuff with Ashen Strike after.
>>735115978it's shit and i stopped taking it
>>735121645Regent is great if you get the star package but shitty otherwise since forge is fucked and you fizzle out if you don't draw the key cards that allow you to deal damage or block like Particle Wall, Stardust, Radiate, Reflect, etc.Feels like the problem with this character is that it has a ton of awfully bad cards but the good cards are very good at least.
>>735115978shops are worse and thin decks are better, seems pretty bad desu
>>735121564Should have gotten better defensive tools.
there's a few good forge cards, Bulwark in particular is very solidForge currently has its use, but you shouldn't be taking more than 1 to 3 forge cards, and they have to do useful shit other than forging when you play them. Forging when the sword isn't in your hand is just terrible value, the ideal package is like Bulwark, Summon Forth and if you end up relying on the sword a lot /maybe/ a Seeking Edge if you need aoe or Conqueror or something just to kill a boss. Wrought in War is great early act 1 but falls off a cliff.And if that's all you put in your deck it's decent.
Why do I keep dealing 1488 damage to the Architect? What is the game trying to tell me?
what is it with asians and anthropomorphising creatures and characters into little girls, like they literally never turn them into adult women. what gives?
>>735121840I like taking The Smith if I'm building stars too
>>735121873Pedophiles inherently have tiny penises therefor are undesirable to adult women, so they try to compensate.
>>735121861It just happens on A2 I believe. Something with the way score is calculated. seems like an oversight lolol
>>735121795>>735121019>>735120094>>735119330why does everyone make him a woman/little girl?
>>735121873culture too obsessed with porn instead of going out and having real sex. same trajectory the west is on.
>>735121873I prefer to anthropomorphize them into grown women but still as creatures
>>735121923I'm waiting for the eventual schizo to claim the devs are intentionally putting out a dogwhistle.
>>735122046casey and anthony are asian and it*lian so I don't think it would have legs
>>735121969Everyone seems united in wanting regent mesugaki since the character is perfect for it.>Always sitting on throne>Complains about being bored and wanting excitement>Total goofball in the Epiphany text and even the Architect calls them a fool
>>735121873somehow it would be weirder if they turned them into little boys. I don't have a justification, it just is.
>>735119696Oh shit, I better break into A10 with broken shit before it all gets nerfed.
>>735120245>draws into end of daysez game
>>735122076>casey and anthony are asianWhat kind of Asian?>Italian Anon...
>>735121905I almost mentioned it because its number is so big that it kinda just does enough even though all it does is forge, but if you've got good star gen going on you'd probably rather be spending 5 stars on other things most of the time than making your 2 cost attack better, like you can spend 5 stars and 1 energy to then spend 2 energy to do 40 damage, or you can just play Comet for 5 stars and 0 energy. Its just competing with much better options for the resource it spends.But if you get the star gen before the payoffs and no star spenders but it it does make the sword a lot bigger and can definitely win fights
>>735122082That's not an explanation. He is a male alien, not in the slightest human>>735119696How do you know it's about infinites?
so how will they nerf hellraiser?
>>735122158Based dyslexic anon can't read the word and
>>735122192https://www.reddit.com/r/slaythespire/comments/1rvg4ki/hot_take_going_infinite_is_generally_not_fun_nor/
Everyone is expecting nerf but I feel like they will just buff a few cards and maybe nerf some elites on a0 because everyone is complaining about them
>>735122204Plenty of ways to do it.
>>735122261I have enough cancer from being on this site I don't need AIDS too
defect status spam is so consistent all the cards you use for it are commons you have tons of rare options you can use for your damage, trash to treasure, compact +anything, smoke stack, flak cannon it just works
>>735114281Vulnerability is kind of shit inherently cause stacking it does nothing but feed itself to enable the archetype, unlike weak which has a real benefit beyond stacking a 2
>>735122204Applies a stacking buff, 6 free Strikes each turn per Hellraiser played..
>>735122204Exhaust the cards it plays
>>735122304I don't like the status shit, are you playing on A10? For me on high ascension it feels very inconsistent and not worth picking
>>735122162Yeah but you don't always get Comet, Gamma Blast or the other better cards so The Smith can be a "good enough" card until you can get the better cards. It's not a bad card to play if you don't have better cards to play on your turn too since you sometimes can do silly shit with it but yeah, forge in general just really needs a buff to make it worth playing or not make you die horribly in higher ascensions since the monsters will just murder you while you're busy trying to ramp up your sword.
>>735122346This one feels likely
>>735122204Cap how many cards it can play. Though honestly it doesn't get really fucking retarded until you start getting a lot of individual pieces like pendulum or the soldier potion.
>>735122276the discourse around infinites is enough to get them nerfed. its a huge talking point and it puts people off of the game when all the good players are saying its braindead and boring constantly. probably only small changes at first and if i had to guess i think the devs like infinites being in the game and its just a matter of how often/easy do they occur.
>>735122436Infinites should stay in the game but it should be very rare to get one going. Not pick Hellraiser with a bunch of pommel strikes and go infinite immediately.
>>735122204Change "Pommel Strike" to "Pommel Bash"Disregard how many other things this would incidentally nerf
Anybody up for a round? A3steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243012636477/76561198043831607I want to climb the multiplayer ascension and make it to A10 eventually
>>735121174>draws 5 retain stance cards turn 1>dies
>>735122485yeah idk what they were thinking with clad. theres no way they accidentally gave him a dozen different infinites and a lot of the cards you need for it are commons
>>735121174good riddance, shit character
>people bitching about infinitesdid none of u play spire 1 leli imagine they will fix or nerf the very easy to do ones tho
This regent card is also extremely good. It's super expensive to get it off but if you do then you get to negate the star cost and energy cost of 3 cards per turn which is insane.
>>735122623>use this>get smacked for 30 dmg in act 3
>>735122623My problem with cards like these is I always end up with a deck filled with mostly 1 cost cards.
>>735122650If I use it then it'll be in combination with something else that gives me energy or particle wall that can give me block at 0-cost and keep me safe while I play Void Form. Or just luck out and have it on hand while the boss is doing a debuff/buff.
>>735122661consider that even if you only use it on one cost cards it means that instead of playing 3 cards per turn you can play 6
>>735122720You get to negate the cost of expensive star cards too like Comet, Decisions or Royal Gambit which is huge.
>>735115978I would not in a million years take it on Silent but I have taken it on defect and it's been pretty good to be honest.
RIPI'm gonna go take a shit
>>735122623I don't like these 3 cost cards that ramp. Like Demon Form. Feels like its just gonna fuck you.
dc? beginning of act 3steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243013119414/76561197998025205
>>735122929it doesn't ramp, it's immediately at full power the turn after you play it
>>735122929I've started realizing there is such a thing as too many Powers in a deck and once you hit there it's sort of like adding curses to your deck. At least you can play them eventually.
First time I run with a group and someone disconnects. Did the entire run brick because of that or is there a way to get back into it?
>>735122895What have you been eating that's so big your shits are causing rips?
>>735122984should be fine if the guy just rejoins. if not then yeah we can't continue
>>735122929health is a resource. On hallways fights it's probably not worth playing them but in elites and bosses getting hit can be worth the value they give and save hp overall. Regent notably has 0 cost star cards that make it easy to play his, and he doesn't even need the stars anymore after he plays it because he can play his star cards for free.
>>735123035Hopefully he's not the shit anon. He did mention it at the start of the run too...>>735122895
>>735122929demon form is kinda bad because there's no big strength synergies on ironclad any more, particularly Reaper which let him regain the health he lost playing it. You can take it if you desperately need scaling to kill a boss but it's usually pretty roughmost of the others are good though and easily worth playing in the right fights even if you have to trade some damage for it
feels like every run is lost long before i actually fail and reset
Finally won with a Forge deck on A6 but it was very close and it's half a stars deck too. Queen is definitely the hardest Act 3 boss right now since it has a gimmick you actually have to respect while the other two allow you to go crazy with damage. Radiate and Beat into Shape is a great combo.
>>735122623Demon form is only worth it if you have found no other method of scaling in your entire run. The other form cards are always an instant pick (serpent form is debatable)
Sorry anon with jap name, I couldn't survive. I didn't have enough block. Not used to STS2 Defect and what he can do just yet.Rehosting A3steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243014017380/76561198043831607
>another le epic pommel strike infinite so nobody else can play in co-opcya
>>735122529My block cards were all at the bottom of my deck several encounters in a row, ggs I guess
>>735123705You can rejoin if you want. Let's wait for others first though>>735123698I'm hosting >>735123689
>>735123413Dog is actually kind of threatening on a10 when you have less resources to work with. Phase one is nob and it can be hard to pull out the 113 damage to kill phase one without it scaling too high and smacking you, and phase 3 has 5x burn attack that can mess up small decks pretty bad. Phase 2 usually isn't bad but sometimes you pick up a wound or two into phase 3.I'd say it's probably still below queen but noticeably harder than doormaker who actually does nothing.
>>735123698dude took 3 times as long as everyone else to play every single turn and then he pulls this shit in act 3 lol
>>735123698>>735123757rip... im going to sleep now
>>735123757I wasn't in that game, but I notice that I personally take some seconds longer with my turns or when moving to the next room. I'm simply a slow person at times. I just want to process things and decide properly, maybe
>>735122929Demon Form's 3 Strength is pure ass compared to generate shitting out 4+ energy/stars worth of value per turn, which also helps out defensively
>>7351236892/4 in, need 2 moreI don't feel that bad about hosting now because I have tomorrow off
I don't get it, is there some sort of unspoken "etiquette" to not building infinite combos in teamplay? Isn't being optimal the point to a deckbuilder?
>unbricks your run
>>735123898NEVERMIND 3/4ONE MORE NEEDED>>735123909I think you just gotta let other people play?
>howl from beyond>forgotten ritual>but no exhaust cards
>I don't get it, does it make co-op unfun if I go infinite turn 1 and my teammates can't participate in the game in any meaningful way? I am very intelligent
>>735123909>I don't get it, why are people picking the team play only cardsA mystery for the ages.
>Playing a claw deck>Nonu gives me the boon that makes all my card rewards have Replay>Get a replay Hologram+ and Feral+ on top of my regular feral.I raped Queen before her simp could out-dps me.
Need 1 more, join up
>feel like I'm doing good with regent>get to act 3>that fucking lagvulin pair>draw a bunch of useless cards on the stat stealing turn>dieI hate these stat stealing motherfuckers.
Optimally its ideal gameplay, but in multiplayer I'm not going to sit there and watch you do that for ten minutes on every floor. Save that shit for the final boss if you don't have shuriken or something
>>735122973It does ramp, though. The amount of energy/stars discounted goes up as you play more turns
>>735115237barricade build is less consistent in sts2 and also enemy design changed, a lot of enemies just won't give you time to set up barricade
Not gonna bother handing out free (You)'s, but I thought the point to playing a game was to win? This is like the whole commander bullshit in MTG all over again.
>>735124073then literally every power in the game is "ramp" and the term is meaningless
>>735124092>anon continues to be surprised people don't want to play games with him despite not changing his behavior
>>735123909>Man, I can't wait for my next turn to kick in! I have a bunch of good shit lined up!>Just gotta wait for another 10 minutes for Silent to stop fucking cycling through her deckIt's not a MOBA with loot at the end of a raid. People play coop for fun.
>>735124092the point of playing a game is to have fun. i'm not going to sit there and watch you play pommel strike for 30 minutes tranny, sorry!
yeah this is why playing with randoms suckLOL
>>735124045Yeah, that's fair. I pulled it in the 1 fight before the final boss of act 3 before someone pissed their pants.
>>735124083Yeah, Barricade just doesn't feel worth it anymore unless I already have Impervious to immediately make it last.
>>735124098Not Neurosurge.And anyway yes most powers are scaling, which is why they're called scaling cards. It's not meaningless.Also also technically ramp comes from Rampant Growth from MtG which is a card that lets you cheat mana, so if we want to be technical then Adrenaline and Offering are ramp card
>>735124235Shut up pedantic nigger
There should just be turn timer settings similar to a chess clock in multiplayer, decided by the host.
>>735122346This one feels interesting. Like it would also reignite the original exhaust meta.
>>735121174Trust the plan!She's coming back, I can feel it...
>>735124282pedantry is important in a game like this. I remember watching Jorbs play a game where he had singing bowl and was debating buying an orrery, and someone in his chat made the point that it couldn't be worse than a Pear, and Jorbs said, "Oh, I'm sure I could make it worse than a Pear." and it's that kind of mindset that makes a great player. It was like a koan for me.
>>735117728These are literally all good cardsInferno solves aoe encountersBlood wall solves block problem + scales inferno and ruptureTear asunder solves all single target fights, even entomancer
>>735119271Regent clicked for me after realizing that Forge is a meme and you need stars regardless of what you think you're going for.
I don't know if it's because I played so much StS1 but StS2 feels more simple, like more streamlined. The decisions are still there but it feels more railroaded to get there, playing power Defect or orb Defect feels like going through the motions. Same with Silent.
>>735124462radiance and stardust are the only good build
>>735121174what are you talking about? Why do you think necro wears purple?
I fucking love forgone conclusion
Why do people complain about the beegroid?Just spam attacks as fast as possible before he doubles his passive. Even shiv decks will overpower him
Can't wait for DLSS5 on Slay the Spire
>>735121174>comes back>as an Act 4 elite
>>735114995i like this
>>735125150you bought it?
>have you tried turning it off and on again?
>get to the final battle with 23hpfuck it we ball
Is Silent's cock bigger than Ironclad's cock because she's black?
Fuck I don't want any of these
Doom is so FUCKING SLOW FUCK
>>735125472You surely still have some strikes and defends to astrolabe
>>735125508My strikes deal 9 damage thanks to Strike Dummy so even that option kinda sucks
>>735125472Just pretend Astrolabe is removal and it doesn't feel that bad
>>735125472Bell isn't the worst on silence since you can loot away the curse.
>>735125630What does this mean? It's eternal
>>735125416Bigger HP = Bigger Cockdems fax yo
>>735125703It means your daw and discard effects can discard the curse away, it's not as good as abusing Sly but it's not dead like that.
>>735125493bro, your end of days? don't tell me you're so unskilled that you can't even get a simple rare card to drop?
>>735125493I feel your pain, but I have reaper form and no escape and nothing survives past turn 3
>>735125856>bro have you tried to add {absolutely conditional broken card }this is why doom sucks
>>735125856AAAAAAAAI fucked up I know but still fuck this shit mechanic I will stick with souls and osty
NOOOOOO I CANT JUST BUILD THE SAME THING EVERY TIME SO IT SUCKS
>>735126003gotta accept that the spire is in no obligation to give you an obvious build to go rom
I FUCKING LOVE SPAMMING POWERSNEOW TRANSFORMS STRIKE INTO WHITE NOISE START OF RUNAND I GET TO REMOVE THE EXHAUST ON WHITE NOISE+ AT THE END OF THE RUNMAXIMIZING THE POWER OF RAINBOW RING TO BOOTAND THEN GAME GIVES ME MUMMIFIED HAND MID-ACT 2HOLY SHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I had a crazy build get ruined because the boss did 30 to 40dmg per turn on phase 2. And that was with weak applied
>>735126069I FUCKING LOVE POWERS YOU GUYS
>>735125963bro your negative pulse? your death's door? your deathbringer? your shroud?
HOSTING ONE MOREsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243016843285/76561198043831607ASC 4
>>735125856i usually end up feeling bad every time i play end of days unless its one of the few fights where aoe is good. 3 points for 29 damage and no block sucks and i always struggle to cycle back to it
The Architect getti g ass mad that Silent won't let him momologue and just keeps appearing of the blue and attacking him is genuinely hilarious.
>>7351261781 more get in here please
They did an excellent job with Necrobinder. Throughout my A0-9 journey i have won with 7 decks that use different strategies to win with the exception of 2 lethality builds and 2 doom builds. Everything is viable and it feels amasing
>>735126147like i said before, i pick one doom card then i get offered no good doom cards thereafter. its too damn conditional.
Anybody else who likes molesting the cursors of other players while in the lobby?
>>735125630>She used the word "loot" (as in Faithless Looting) instead of discardA MTG player...let us hope you don't post more mtg references lest you meet a sad fate
>>735126329doom doesn't particularly combo with doom other than like 2 or 3 cards. Damage has just as much synergy as more doom does.
Giving it 5 more mins then we start
Game blackscreened on meRehostedsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243017240382/76561198043831607
>>735126529Blackscreened for me too after I tried joining.
I am still blackscreened though I hear the music playing and my cursor is there. Seems that lobby is a cursed one. Abandoning save and rehosting
>>735126610Rehostedsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243017305493/76561198043831607
>>735124543I feel that
>>735118554People from his planet are BORING, thats why.
can I join these co-op lobbies without completely doxxing myself, my steam profile has all my rl friends and they are not as careful as I am with not putting personal info, fucking retards solo is getting boring
>>735126836Im gathering some funny anon data im gonna dump in a sts thread in a week or so
>>735126836what precisely are you worried is going to happen?
>>735126968you couldn't infer anything out of my profile because i'm not a retard, but then you go on any of my friends profile and its>THIS IS WHERE I LIVE AND MY REAL NAME AND WHERE I WENT TO SCHOOLthen youre 1 step away from doxxed
>>735125373What do you use to capture and export webms?
>>7351255461 mana 1 card draw do 9 damage pukingit's labe even though labe sux
thoughts on this card?
>>735126836>>735127110don't listen to anons trying to convince you it's no big deal, security through obscurity is a bad proposition. you might be able to create a burner steam account and add it to your family to share your game library with it and just use that to play multiplayer with anons
>>735127239It's really good and you have lots of ways to cheat it, but if your damage scaling is solved it's not necessary
>>735127239really goodfree damage while you block wins runs
>>735127239its awesome. helps with 3 hit relics and is really good if you still havent found a good way to scale
>>735127239It makes me really wish they made the Minion archetype exhaust instead of transform
souls really is too OPeven if you don't have any cards that directly synergizes with it you can just draw an infinite number of times until you have the card you want on your hand.
>>735127640i think the draw is fine. draw to cycle back to your good cards and tuning your deck size/soul gen for it is synergy and deck building. i think haunt is just what pushes it over the edge. you can get so much effortless damage by just adding that 1 point power on top of anything and make your shitty decks game winning.
I love "played on discard" cards so much lmao. I hope there will be more of them.Where is the save data located? I need to migrate versions
>>735127640Gotta reduce the draw by one honestly, I think that would be fair.
>>735128026then all it does is fatten out your deck and replace itself. There's some other interactions but unless you buff their effects I think dropping it to draw one makes it just a little bit bad instead of very very very good. I think they'll have to come up with something else.
>>735127640they could have it deal doom to you or something but that doesn't solve turn 1 infinites which are the most degenerate
Finished A10 Necro and Defect, time to slog through Regent.
>>735128750what build worked for defect for you? I've found lightning to be great due to the thunder power and, surprisingly, claw builds are doing well.
>>735128026that would make unupgraded souls totally useless
>>735128054maybe make it draw 2 and discard 1
>>735128880Smokestack/Hailstorm/Iteration/Compact
GG guysDamn, Forge really needs the buffs MegaCritI'm watching my other Regent guy and Necro just cleaning up and there I am quietly forging away and not able to do much even with Sword Sage
>>735129127Iteration is nuts, like single handedly makes status cards viable.
>>735129127how many hailstorms did you have? i've found its damage underwhelming. god I miss blizzard. Smokestack is noice though
>>735127239it should have been a minion meteor
Been struggling with Regent. I'm not good at this game but I've never been this shit on a character.Can't clear A3 in 4 attempts. I'm up to 8 on every other character.
>>735127640They just have to make it so every soul is added at the end of turn, like that it's still an incredibly powerful draw engine that allows you to easily get the cards you want but no longer enables degenerate infinite comboes.
>>735129296I've finished A10 by spamming colourless stuff.If you find Arsenal it's a free win, otherwise you will have to work for it.It's still pretty good though since a lot of the cards you get are on average better than your normal cards.Otherwise any strength card/relic/potion is pretty good on him since you can get big 6+ radiances with low effort.
>>735129214Just one that I got early, before I had the second smokestack.
just ended a game with 160 flashes of steel+lolclone is so crazy, I thought it would only replicate once per rest, not go exponential
>>735129296forge is a trap, colorless generation and minions aren't good. You want star generation with reliable block and void form if you can get it.
>>735129521>forge is a trapjust don't pick the bad cards.
>>735129605>2 energy and no good energy relicsshow me a good card then
>>735129605I guess I should say, focusing on a forge build is a trap. Using a solid defend card and keeping a weak blade in reserve to use during an otherwise dead hand just shows how great bulwark is, it doesn't redeem forge from being shit.
>>735129521>>735129605WHY DOES PARRY GIVE BLOCK WHEN BLADE IS USED? IT SHOULD GIVE BLOCK WHEN FORGING AT ALLYOU CANNOT SPAM BLADE WITH IT BEING 2 COST THE WHOLE TIME AND 3 WITH SWORD SAGE
>>735129721>make parry more expensive>make it gain block when you forge equal to the amount forged
the devs love necrobinder who is piss easy while the sovl character reagent has a horrible time scraping a build together
>>735129605bulwark saved my acsension 3 run so I am ok with it
Does Necro Mastery damage stack? This is important.
>>735129521>forge is a trap
>>735129721Agree Parry is extremely bad to pick up, even in a forge built.
>>735129721And it’s such a middling bitch baby amount of block. >>735129786That sounds better. And once you forge enough, the blade should automatically upgrade and become 1 cost. Is there any way to upgrade it besides a fucking potion?
>>735130061refine blade used to upgrade the blade, it was nerfed recently.
>>735130061there should be a card, maybe the gold one that forges 40, that upgrades sovereign blade. Maybe reduce the forge amount to compensate.>>735130016Build it up all you like, it's energy intensive to do so. Forge can do INCREDIBLE damage and the enemies will wail on you while you assemble it.
>>735130143>and the enemies will wail on you while you assemble it.see >>735129605
>>735130164alright let's see your high ascension forge build wins
Why wouldn't you pick this instantly everytime when you see it
>>735125546Like 99% of upgraded cards are still better than than 9 damage strike. Unless you get actual garbage like Snakebite.
>>735130403
>>735130403sometimes I feel like being an inbred fucking disphit absolute retard, so I don't pick it
>>735130580snakebite is a top tier act 1 card though, it shreds through elites and bosses.
>>735130581He dead.I still genuinely believe the game is worse without him.
>>735130618>snakebite is a top tier
>>735130403>get it on regent thanks to the colored philosophers event >free kingly kicks all day
>>735130403it might be up against a better optionalso if you have too many of them Hunter Killer might be an issuebut otherwise there is no downside
I challenge anyone in this thread to win more slower than me.
>lose my perfect win streak because I had seal of gold and I thought it'd be better to take 2 of these things then pay 150 gold to the spider
>miniature tent and meat cleaver
Prismatic gem is funny.
>have a good defect build, virtually unkillable after a couple turns of setup>still lose because enemies hit for 30 damage on the first 2-3 turns so damage piles up regardlessi fucking hate this game
how to fix forge with one simple change:>remove parry>forging now gives you half the forge value as block
>>735132780sounds like regent
>>735132936it was the defect, one i got my ice orbs rolling i could gain between 50 and 100+ guard per turn but taking damage on the first couple turns is inevitable
>>735132780>virtually unkillable after a couple turns >enemies kill you before thatoutskilled
Rate my infinite.Double played sealed throne with throwing axe. Have a black hole down. Can infinitely play particle wall (2 star cost, 2 star gained from playing a card) does 4 damage per play from black hole. But then also I have radiate and I got it up to like 100+ hits before letting it rip.
>>735133081Oh my Stars/10
>>735133081real Gilgamesh?
Infinites are legitimately too easy in this game. I had played a decent amount of STS, and I don't think I've ever gotten a true infinite (maybe I had on watcher), and I've stumbled into two in a row now (necrobinder, ironclad). It feels like they made energy in cards way too accessible, and they don't exhaust (not counting the event that can remove exhaust now), or have any real cost. Brightest flame is also an insane fucking card. It's way more powerful than any energy relic ever was.
>>735133916You could do infinites with Ironclad and Defect, Ironclad pretty consistently, Defect more rarely.Don't remember Silent or Watcher having infinites, although I rarely played Watcher.
>>735114995oof, the cards are clearly AI art, no thanks
>>735134015Not him but Watcher and Ironclad were the only ones I ever got infinites going on in the original game. Watcher was especially easy. I've only got one infinite going in this game after 100+ runs.
>>735123946>-2 mana do nothing
>snecko eye transfigure bury pen nib lethality deckI cum
>>735132780A9 makes things so scary, my deck can handle a boss okay but on the way I'm getting slapped for 45 by a floating eye if I don't kill it by turn 3 and he has a billion hp, are you serious?
>>735134114You could do an infinite by using Madness to reduce two All for Ones to 0 mana and loop em.Like I said it's pretty inconsistent since you need two of the same rare card and have to hit em both with Madness, but it's doable and how I got my A10 on Defect.
Who thought it was a good idea to name a card Up My Ass?
>>735133081There are way too many infinites and semi-infinites in this game, they're going to fix them all right? I think they absolutely ruin the difficulty once you've got one.
>>735134415Be less greedy and pick more frontload block and damage
hey fellow kids, what ascension are you guys on?
Game is so good I've been recording my runs and will be uploading them to youtube, my era of popularity and fame will start this year even though I'm a complete shitter
>>735127640>Souls draws 1 now and then draws 1 next turn. Souls+ is 2 draws now and then 1 next turn.>Borrowed Time and Borrowed Time+ blocks 1/2 mana gain for the rest of the turn.
Are there actually people out there who ENJOY playing the Ironclad? In both games I have absolutely nothing but terrible builds/runs with him and I'm lucky to make it to the Act 2 boss. I've cleared Act 3 ONCE with him in the first game.At least in 2 I can play with friends to carry my ass while I pretend I have any kind of survivability. It's like I either do a Strength-focused build and get my ass kicked since I'm attacking too much to try and kill things, or I do a Block-focused build and I get my ass kicked because I'm just sitting here playing defense while the enemy gets stronger. And those are his only two playstyles unless you're a sadist who wants to run an Exhaust build, which is just garbage.At least all the other characters have fun gimmicks that make the run interesting, but the Ironclad is just a piece of shit imo who feels really, really bad compared to everyone else.
>>735134687My opinion is that infinites are fine, and even cool, if you have to really earn them. It's the ease/difficulty of achieving them that should be the issue, rather than eliminating them entirely.
>>735135263Clearing 6 on everyone at the moment, halfway through.
>>735135461I love ironclad in the first game because it sells really well the demonic fighter fantasy and you can do extremely degenerate things or just play big bonks. I also love life stealing in every game. In STS 2 it feels meh but really like cascade
>>735135461I find his infinite (exhaust spam, pommel strike, blood pact, etc...) boring. But I think he's really fun outside of that. Blockade body slam is really fun. Hellraiser mass-draw is really fun, any kind of mass strength build is really fun. I also enjoy how many fights you can take on him due to his healing.
>>735127239I only ever see this thing show up after I have my deck mostly online.
This shit is incredibly broken, far more so than HellraiserWTF?!?!?
>>735127239Only shows up when I'm building Vigor + multihit.
>>735136192Love taking this with a bunch of energy generation to stunlock my friends for like 20 seconds in co-op.
>>735130942what if you had a deck of nothing but escape plans?
>>7351352635 on Silent (Sly is a busted mechanic), 1-3 for everyone else.
>>735136192Had this with Catastrophe, jesus take the wheel type of beat. Easily won by the way, turns out it's easy to win when you play your entire deck in a single turn and your deck contains broken cards.
>>735136192>Playing 4 player with /v/>Get this>Get the ancient relic that automatically plays a card at the start of a fight>Plays half my deck for free before the fight beginsSurprised it's not exhaust.
>>735136532is this usuable without the synergy?
>>735136691This is strong enough that I consider picking this up at shops, yes. This thins your deck most of the time and can represent a shitload of discount amount if you have specific decks, it's definitely a strong setup card.
multiplayer a5 ideallysteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243030656808/76561198149672785
How do I get perfect rng every run? I've been stuck on literal a0 as defect for almost a week now so I checked out other people's gameplay and the main difference is that everyone else is always getting perfect cards and is also drawing them perfectly every fight, as well as getting easiest encounters and most useful events. Any tips?
>>7351368652/4, i'll give it 5 more minutes
>get alchemical coffer for act 2 thinking i whiffed>get delicate frond from act 3
>slay the spire 1>you lose in the first act you get something shitty from neow>slay the spire 2>you lose in the first act you get to remove shitty cards from your deck
So not only is colorless underwhelming on its own, you also gotta deal with it making you cards like this.
>>735137274Frond is fucking absurd. It makes Act 3 a total cakewalk.
>>735137057Defect is easiest and most consistent for me, just take frost orb cards, good powers, and compile driver, sprinkle in random good bullshit
>can do good with anyone>ironclad just filters mewhat the fuck
>>735137057Have you tried going back in time and telling your great-grandparents not to piss off that gypsy?
>>735137378Same, I either get killed before my synergy deck fully works or my good act 1 cards get outclassed in the late game
Who the fuck was it that said Defect is weak combared to Necro? This level of ridiculousness Necro can not achieve
If you transform an enchanted card, does the transformed card keeps the enchantment? What about upgrades?
>>735137636Is all that focus temporary?
>>735137368Oh yeah, I forgot mana cheating, even the shitty one is good
>>735137335Transforming a curse sadly just transform it into a different curse But you can transform the sword into a random neutral in a pinch
>>735137726you can transform a eternal curse into one that can be removed from your deck, the only problem is that like 2/3rds curses are eternal
I dont care what anyone says, I love this card
>>735137451No problem, all he has to do is get sent to a prison camp in the desert, meet the great great grandson, befriend him, escape from the prison with him, get lost in the desert, find a trove of preserved peaches, eat the peaches, and then carry him to the top of a mountain and feed him water. Then the curse will be broken.
>>735137701yea but i cycle it every single turn so its kinda permanent in a weird way. Also hidden gem gives it replay
>>735114995Its not like in 1 if ALL characters are not girls
>>735136865Did you dc? I'll restart
>>735137947steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243032819395/76561198149672785
This shit is very underwhelming, yet, I'm not surprised if it has a very high pick winrate.
>>735137979you still here?
>enter ? room in act 2>hunter killer>first hand is nothing but block and skillsgg literally nothing i could dowhat an absolute fucking nigger of an enemy
>>735138014I won every single time i picked it. Its just good plain and simple
>>735138014Free block before you get your shit online? Yeah man, its good
>>735137871One subroutine is all it takes to make this card immediately worth it, and the fact that you can create additional subroutines makes it even better.
>>735138094Yeah sorry
>>735138157i havent lost to this guy in a billion years. Its just a random bozo but i do remember he was kinda annoying when i had a weak Silent deck
Flame barrier and thorns owns this fag so bad.
>>735137871trash if I have to pay for the cost of powers
Who here is also funmaxing and doesn't read half the boardstate? Im here to play cards, not to remember all my relics or what debuffs I have
>>735138342He shits on any mildly complicated deck because he just shits out damage every single turn while sapping your damage and block for every card played.It seems like high cost cards are the way to deal with him, but the issue with this is that you're still going to take like 21 damage every turn if you can't kill him in 2 turns. He's just overtuned. I think he'd be a better balanced fight if he debuffed you on the second turn rather than the first.
Is removing a strike as opposed to clumsy is better for some decks? Given the curse is ethereal, you just draw it once and it's gone, whereas the strike will keep reappearing.
>>735138902>He's just overtunedfound the silent player. never had any issue with the fucker, stop playing infinite shit and spry.
>>735138958I usually keep the clumsy around for that exact reason, yes
did they remove stardust (I would understand cause that shit it completly broken)? cause I dont see it on my Regent runs anymore
>>735138958clumsy usually comes with a curse for a relic though, doesn't it? the big issue with curses is that they can break your hand, stuff like drafting expensive cards and card draw alleviate the issue.
Why am i so fucking trash at ironclad bros.I can navigate the others no problem but i always struggle with this fucking retard mode char.I can only win when i draw blood wall + insane draw+ the one that gives energy per attack
>>735138902I don't know, I rarely have issues with him.Hell, defect murders him pretty well.
Trying custom lobby with those optionssteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243036980166/76561199498658249
ashen strike is good
>>735139274You think that's bad? I've been trying to clear A2 with Regent for two days straight. At least I managed to get to act 3.
>>735140183Just do this to clear it
Defect's block generation is so fucking bad if you don't go all in on frost>well why don't you go all in on frostI would if the fucking cards dropped and it didn't take multiple turns to get online. I eat unblocked damaged as Defect more than any other character.
This fucking sucks actually.Like overclock but infinitely worse.
Hidden Gem is quickly becoming an auto pick for me. The fact it doesn't exhaust is not going to last long.>15+ star Stardust playing 3 timesDelightful.
>>735140557there's this and cinder.mega crit seems to underestimate just how bad exhausting the top card actually is
>>735140480>glacier>a block card that generates thunder>coolheadI don't know, it's pretty par of the course.
>>735140557>random ExhaustInto the trash it goes. I would maybe consider it with Scry.
>>735140645It would be good if it said "exhaust and play" and cost 1 or 2.Like it is now it always deletes the one card that you need and leaves you with a handful of strikes.
>>735140735even if it said that it would be unpickable in most casesunless your deck is some 50 card abomination you generally want to play a few key cards and exhaust the rest. that makes random exhaust like that always bad and unusable in actual exhaust decks.
>>735140735it's good as is, just don't play a thin deck.it provides constant exhausts to ramp up ashen strike and gives free card draw.
>>735140871>it's good as isMaybe if you like playing the casino.
>>735140698>I would if the fucking cards droppedThis run is so bad that my best sources of block are a single leap+ card, fisticuffs, and a single copy of cold snap
>>735140331oh wow, so you're telling me that the trick is to get good draws and get to the final boss with a busted set up? amazing, thanks, I was way too retarded to figure that out apparently
>>735140906it just doesn't work well for infinite decks, which everyone and their mother is drafting right now. as long as you don't have a single wincon, it's good. you can control what's on top of your deck and what's in your draw pile in general, there's also ways to retrieve cards from exhaust.
>>735140943Come on, if nothing else, leap shows up in shops A LOT.There's also that innate card with 11-15 block.
>>735141036unless you draw headbutt every turn you can't really control it no. and as far as I know exhume doesn't exist anymoreI'm sure you can still win by using it but why would you? you would have a much easier time if you didn't
>>735141036It doesn't matter if you have a 40 card deck, sometimes it will Exhaust a card you need.>there's also ways to retrieve cards from exhaust.Yes, and getting that is also random. That's like a bare minimum for even considering this card.
>>735141036>there's also ways to retrieve cards from exhaust.You can do that with cards besides Howl From Beyond?
>>735141116I've just been super unlucky, I've checked every shop I could. I just got sturdy clamp and took the 3 ethereal cards from Vakuu, so maybe I have a chance. Maybe.
>>735141215Good luck anon, by last run of THUNDER FOCUSED defect had so much passive block I didn't know what to do with it, I dind't take a single bit of damage after midway act 2.
As bad as this run is, it's at least cursed in an interesting way>go to ? because I don't want to risk combat>it's the knock-off shop>buy pretty much everything because there's no other shop before the boss>go to another ?>it's a shop>no block, even if I had the money to spend
do you think silent has a big cock
>>735141176there was exhume in slay the spire 1, but looks like they didn't port it.
>>735141402Man I love go for the eyes with that power that lets you reuse your first 0 cost attack.
>>735141402Hologram can let you play your best Block card again.
>>735141429she's got a futa BBC
>>735141402Go for the eyes is a mandatory pick whenever I see it as defect, makes it so easy to block everything and it does damage, easily one of his best cards
I've got two accuracy+, would you say three is too much?
First time taking Prismatic Gem, this shit's funny as fuck.
>>735141687Removing a strike and getting another Accuracy sounds fun to me
Letter opener is hilariously busted with necro. Both of my wins so far with her were thanks to it
>be me>ass4>transform 2 cards relic from Neow -> Get shiv storm and knive trap>Lose to knowledge demon despite having 3x Acro, Prepared+ and 2x ReflexFuck my stupid chungus life
>>735141950toxo not even once
>>735141950>get offered shiv stuff>draft sly anywayscan't wait for the nerf.
>>735142032>Draft sly anywaysstorm of shit says discard
>>735142160well but it's shit
i found fiddle is pretty good if you play necro big energy and have perfect fit transfigure to consistently use all the energy and shove 10 energy of osty's punches down the enemy0s throath. ghost seed was the cherry on top
>>735141442>>735141646I already had a copy of go for the eyes and I wanted to keep my deck as thin as possibleManaged to close it out, but that was probably the most precise I've ever had to play a boss fight, and I just barely made it. I random'd this card I'd never seen in the middle of the fight and it saved me by letting me both boost claw's damage 3 times and apply weak to hold off a lethal hit.
>>735142272That's a weird build. i would have assumed fiddle sucked ass on necro the most due to souls being a thing. Also I assume Demesne gets cucked by fiddle too right?
>>735142379
Is he retarded? How the fuck do you even build him
how often do you skip choosing a card?
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So all nuance is gone from the ironclad? The meta is now "get expect a fight and go infinite"?
>>735142651like 2-3 times in a1then at least 50% of the time in a2then like 90% of the time in a3
>>735142651Pretty often, it actively has to make my deck better or have a promise for synergy later
>>735142651I take a lot in act 1, skip only a few. In act 2 I'm skipping probably like half on average. Towards the end of act 2 and in 3 I'll mostly take build defining stuff, card draw and getting picky on unupgraded cards, but of course sometimes it gets all flipped on its head.
This might be the best Defect path I've ever gotten on A10, nearly my entire deck is upgraded, and I have frost orbs and Defrag+
Sex with Defect
>>735142840this jit cracks cores
>>735142651You can skip them?
>>735142713Not exactly. the ironclad has a lot of ways to win. Going infinite is just the most braindead way.
>>735142543hes the easiest character in the game. he has the most exhaust cards that can just delete all the bad cards in your deck so you can get your good cards faster
>>735142543My experience with him has basically been>see literally any card that damages you>take it>winHis bottlenecks seem to be energy economy and draw. Bloodletting solves energy economy, and pommel strike+, shrug it off, and exhaust (including the power that draws a card when you exhaust) solve card draw.He's simple and retarded.
>>735142543You hit hard and get block by exhausting cards
>>735142543Pillage and Expect a Fight are two of his strongest cards that you can commonly see. both of them reward having more attack cards than than skill or power.To utilize this, take a lot of attack cards, remove basic defend, add fat block like Blood wall, Flame barrier, Impervious. only pick skill card that you're sure you really need.From here, you can go Exhaust infinite, Hellraiser or Cascade bullshit, whatever you can get your hand on. That's the new way to play Ironclad in StS2.You can play him like he was in StS1 as well. Pyre, Unmovable, Stampede, Demon Form, a bunch of blocks and some multihit attacks. (literally the style that your first run of this game gave you). Your card rewards before you visit your first shop usually decide which direction the game want you to go.
>>735142543braindead character that can stumble into infinites the moment you get pommel strike
>getting through Act 1 with Escape Plan, Backflip, Prepared, Finisher, Heel Hook, Setup and Deadly PoisonThis game is pretty cool when you know what you're doing.
>>735142651I skip most cards, I always try to keep my deck as close to 20 as possible unless I'm playing a deck with a ton of draw like with Silent.
>>735142651Really depends on my starting relic and the pathing. I always take cards that are block/strike but better to immediately improve my deck in act 1, afterwards it comes down to how my deck is looking and whether or not the rare card from act 1 boss gave me a win condition to build around
>>735142863Yeah, you can just choose not to take a card if it's a card reward from a battle.Events might force you to take a card.
This is a true rogue-like and not a rogue-lite? yes?
>>735143486not technically no.you unlock new events, new cards and new acts.
>>735143486A true roguelike would require the game to be a dungeon crawler, which this is not.
>>735142402Nope, you simply can't draw after your turn started, desmene works fine
>>735143593CDDA isn't a crawler?
>>735143837The environments being dungeons is technically a low value factor if going by the Berlin interpretation. So long there's procedural environment generation, it's turn based, there's permadeath and there's no metaprogression it gets closer and closer to being more in spirit with the original Rogue. The game being grid based is bonus points, I guess.Like, modern indies tend to just take the procedural generation and permadeath parts, while otherwise doing whatever they like. Metaprogression often being the main thing that gets people invested longterm.
>>735143593A spire is a tower which is a dungeon technically
How do I get started with learning to mod? All I want to do is replace character and card textures.
>>735144232Sure, but I imagine the main points old roguelike enjoyes would get hung up on is that you don't have more freeform exploration, and that there's metaprogression. To me, for a true roguelike the game already needs to have everything available from the word go, without needing to unlock things through separate runs.
