>all buffs
Eat a bag of dicks Michael Murray
WHERE IS MARDUKPUT MARDUK IN
>BACK TO BASICS>BACK TO BASICS>BACK TO BASICS>BACK TO BASICS>BACK TO BASICS>BACK TO BASICS
just kill the game
>DELIBERATE, REFINED
>>735117868So did they triple down on making the game more retardedly offensive?
>>735118623nerfs are small, some strong characters got mindboggling buffs that make no sense and have no logical throughput for how the developers came up with them, too many compensation buffs, no addressing common complaints like overly long combos
>>735117883I can't believe this potato face is in charge of Tekken now
>>735118712It's literally season 2 2
>>735118712>no addressing common complaints like overly long combosthey did nerf heat dash combos' length. but yeah that not gonna change much, the game is pretty much the same
well atleast theres less turtling and stalling from jack players
>>735117868This is what you faggots want, stop whining. It's like everyone has had collective amnesia about all the bitching that ever happens over nerfs. "Don't bring characters down, lift the rest up". But of course faggot gamers never admit this. This is why power creep and bloat always happens. Because gamers never want to take the bitter pill for long term enjoyment, they'd rather get their feel-good bandaid now and suffer AIDs later, then blame the game devs anyways.TL;DR FUCK niggers (you)
>>735121317tekken players have all actually managed to come together for +6 months to ask for exclusively nerfs across the entire cast, i dont think anyone was asking for a single buff
>>735121317>Give characters buffs not nerfsOnly idiots ever said thisGo all the way back to the fighting game boom of the early '90s and the games which worked best were the ones with characters who had obvious defining weaknesses which required skillful play and optimum use of strengths to protect/hideUnfortunately we live in the Twitter where stupid people have a very large voice and corporations have so much money on the line that they're terrified of not listening to them. When you delete character weaknesses all that's left is a stodgy soup of indiscriminately homogenised OP characters where only fundamentals and systems count for anything. Anyone with any intelligence can plainly see this>>735121460It wasn't that long ago when the Tekkken community was pro-buffs across the board. 7 should have been a warning but sadly it wasn't heeded and so Namco went ahead and built an entire game around making weakness irrelevant
>still playing T8But why?>Gameplay was shit at launch>Added battlepass cancer after launch with insulting rewards>Absolutely retarded heihachi retcon makes the events of T7 pointless and lose all impact>Season 2 patch was legendarily awful>Now you have this patch which is apparently making things even worseExplain yourselves Tekkenfags, how much abuse can you take before you finally drop a fighting game like this?
>>735122143They all suffered through TTT2 with a smile
>>735117868back to basics was a fucking lie, sure, but saying its all buffs is lieing just as much
>>735122143I wanna get my moneysworth>>735122176TTT2 was the last good one
>>735122251Found the Anna player
>>735122143Good thing I played all fighting games and not some single game loyalist fag so nothing is heartbreaking and abusing for me.
>>735122143They don't have anything like Tekken as an escape. VF5Revo constantly has issues and all the other 3D fighters haven't seen a new entry in years.
>>735122143Tekken and SF are big enough that they can make their games as shifty as they want and the fan base will accept it all with a smile because of severe battered wife syndrome. What else are they gonna do, play some unpopular shit like CotW or VF?Also it's surprising that out of the big 3, it was the MKfags that were the ones that were actually capable of being sick of the declining quality of their franchise and dropped it.
>>735122143I swear these Tekkenfags even the youtubers are chronically toxic positive.
how's yoshi
>>735122143They have no other options.
>>735122606I will say the one good thing about Tekken is that I can get games pretty much any time I want. If I wanna play Smash or SF I have to wait for peak hours, and VF is practically a Discord fighter at this point sadly>>735122727Mostly untouched11 no longer launches on counterhit and uf 11 lost a frame, but he has a bunch of hitbox and tracking buffs. He also has a couple of new moves but they're nothing major, mostly just more stance fuckery to mess with people
>>735117868How do you fucking retards get tricked again, what did you expect?
im going back to t7, steve is actually fun there
Can't believe Virtua Fighter won
>>735122143Brand loyalty is a hell of a drug.
>>735122898Why is there no Tekken on fightcade or another alternative? If you don't like SF6 you can play Super Turbo or Alpha or 3S or whatever on that but you are seriously fucked with Tekken.
>>735123092Virtua Fighter is going to come out and die despite (probably, you never know with Sega) being the better game, and most people will stick to T8 while complaining about how shit it is.
>>735123092VF is gonna have a drive rush/heat equivalent and you know it.
8 is my first tekken. I'm not yet good enough to determine if when I'm getting mixed by law or hwo if that's a T8 thing or how they always have been
fighting games are in a funny position because the genre is basically dead...but the onset of AI gives dev avenues to a ton of corners everywhere saving a ton of money
>>735123463Law and Hwoarang have always been very strong beginner-friendly characters for as long as they've been around
>>735123463its been always a thing. best you can do is play on defense, read their patterns and counter them until you comfortable poking them at range
>>735117868Yes! No nerfs, only buffs design philosopher retards stay winning!
>>735121943>Unfortunately we live in the TwitterWe live in a society where the youth are brown and black, the most retarded gorilla niggers have an opinion on things.Fighting games and life in general is at it's worst point since the 50s. Zoomers grew up with indian ragebait and now they defend these corporations.
>>735123158You can play 5, 6, and Tag 2 on RPCS3 online
>>735123158>Why is there no Tekken on fightcadeHey that's a good question. I can see Tekken 6 having players.
>>735121317One guy made a video and now its the collective opinion of the entire FGC across multiple franchises.
>>735122898SoulCalibur 6, DOA5 and 6, VF5, Arkadyzja for PS1 fighting games so Bloody Roar and Tekken 3, Tekken 5 and 6 through RPCS3.They have options.
killing this franchise got me back into reading so thanks murray you nigger>>735123463get a refund
>>735123653thanks raj, very cool
>>735122143virtua fighter is scary
>>735128151Boring you mean, boring
>>735121317They wanted defense options and an equality of factors, not "literally make everyone a Lars and no defensive options, one plus hit and you're now eating a combo for the next fifteen seconds every time"
>>735125431My old fucking shit can't run the PS3 emulator, how is the online for those though
>>735122143my mommy anna is so pretty in this game and no one would grind tag 2 ranked...
>>735128474I've only played 5 online but didn't have trouble getting matches the few times I've tried. Felt surprisingly good. Some absolute sharks swimming around though, got my ass handed to me.
>>735123279VF is genuine dogshit, which is why no VF has ever had a playerbase
I do kind of understand their motive. No one would want a patch and it basically read>We gutted everythingfor each individual character. What they should have actually done is keep the individual characters strong (good!) but took a massive sledgehammer to the shitty overarching 2D mechanics that don't belong in Tekken. >Heat>Rage>Anything with an onscreen gauge or counter, leave that shit to anime fighters >And anyone with a weapon aside from Yoshimitsu
>>735121943>Give characters buffs not nerfsThis felt like it was more fitting for anime games or smash bros but retards probably started parroting it without any nuance and now games devolve further and further into looney tunes bullshit because people can't form their own opinions or remember where they got their own.That's the most optimistic view. The realistic view is that people are retarded and ask for things they don't want because it sounds good as a slogan.
>>735117883Look at the screen, Michael.
Welp. Im going back to shit fighter 6. At least that has avatar battles or whatever.
We're so back to the basics! But why are heat and rage still there?
>>735128151It has this reputation for being impenetrable but it's actually one of the easiest 3D fighters to get into
>>735117868meter slop
This update is lame. Lame and bogus.Forgive my swearing.
>>735118712I honestly wouldn't be surprised if modern fighting game developers ask ChatGPT or whatever on what balance changes to make.>Alright, just add more offense! It'll be hype and very Tekken!
>>735122347>play a character for like 25 years>suddenly cancer because Murray is a retardIt's not fair
>>735123403Also an overheat
>>735128151It's literally just rock paper scissors
>>735117868This game will be shit as long as you can still extend combos with heat burst. High damage characters like Jack should not be able to do wall-to-wall combos on medium sized stages.
I think tekken has far too much going on now, I was playing tekken 2 at a friends house on his ps5 and it was a really fun time. I really liked the simplicity and there was no eye rape on the screen it was easy to learn and get a feel for the characters but you could really do a lot with so little. The new games have so much shit and are so adhd and its just not fun
>>735134430I mean I'm a Yoshi main so I'm one of the few chars which actually gets to play defensively but yeah, for most of the cast it's not really Tekken anymore
>>735129873>No one would want a patch and it basically read We gutted everythingI do get it but there's a few ways around this>Announce ahead of time you're planning a full revision/title update that'll address major feedback that can't be done on a random seasonal update^ crossing my fingers they do this in a big apology post this week>Rather than scale back the existing mechanics, push extremities to create a different style of game that works with the current system, rather than having the systems be mounted onto core mechanics that don't mesh well, and end up looping around to a healthy metagame againthis is a pretty extreme solution, but this is basically the state of MH Wilds at the moment, which I'm still not a fan of and I don't find it enjoyable, but a functional game that's unfamiliar is still better than a familiar game getting shitcanned, this would definitely alienate every veteran though since this is basically asking the game to become even more anime>Make a separate PTB and do extreme changes there before rolling them into the main buildthe best solution but they'll never do this
