Why did game devs focus on making Concord-likes? Why focus on pre-made, voice-acted, characters? Why not just let players create their own characters and abilities if the gameplay is just going to be an FPS, similar to Halo?
>>735124085They must think the Overwatch/Esports shit is giga profitable.
>>735124085probably because hr only hires the same people over and over, so you get the same stuff over and over
>be Team Fortress 2>Character driven game, iconic designs>The first knock offs were some Battlefield slop and Overwatch>More people get into overwatch because it's backed by normalfag marketing and is on consoles>That gives the cue that Gaymers are willing to put up with microtransaction slop>So you make the game and just make revenue from digital shit>Chinkoids get a sniff of this>Gacha apocalypse>Third parties get a sniff of this>Concordlikes>You are here>Nintendo detonates a nuke in India
>>735124175My guess is they started development on them when Overwatch was at its peak, then had to stall or slow down devwork during covid, and they are just now finally ready to release something "playable". This is kinda what happened when league of legends hit its popularity spike in the early 2010s, where every studio started making mobas and killed them shortly after launch. The only difference here is that hero shooters take a lot more dev-time to make than a run-of-the-mill MOBA.
concord chads we eating good this year
>>735124375This. The real question is why are dev studios so fucking incompetent that they need 10 fucking years to make a game?
>>735124175Which is ironic because Blizzard killed off the OWL because it wasn't profitable.
>>735124085>Look at these awesome animations!>Do you know what would look even better? If these characters were using MTX skins while doing these animations!I can already tell this game is going to have a really aggressive MTX system.
It plays like third-person Battlefield with heroes. So doesn't look like it's competing in the hero shooter genre.
>>735124085Like communism, a true Concord has just never been tried before.
>the character intros are beautiful!!!when are video game producers going to realism a video game needs good gameplay in order to appeal to video game players.>but it's prettyIs it fun? Cause I have to play the game and not just watch your clip. Like more than once too.
>>735124085eh the stilt monkey and the blob guy are kinda neat
>>735124085You can't just put a guy in bog standard samurai armor and call it character design. What the fuck?
Is hero shooter a really popular genre among developers or investors or something?
Niggas really just stole Viscous from Deadlock.
>>735124085>conventionally attractive half naked womenI thought you guys said concord and highguard wouldn't flop if it did this? What changed?
>>735124785no one said that
Why are they so taken by this cosplayers with bits and bobs of high tech gear aesthetic?
>>735124085Character creators are evil because players would create cool white guys or cute girls. Larry fink can't have you get it.
>>735124085I think the hero shooter genre is dead; but those designs are way better than Concorde. The girls are at least cute and the guys don't look like pussies.Devs are going to have to commit to giving these games at least a year of server support though or consumers won't take a chance on the genre again.
>>735124438I think it's because they get paid salaries. So as long as you show up to work you get paid. Meaning you can goof off all day doing the Gen Z latte meme shit and still get paid. I think that's why there's so much crunch time for nearly every big AAA dev. Nobody really has the passion like in the old days where a small team wanted to bring the game out as fast as possible to beat the market to a new idea or sequel.
>>735124085Remember all these games over the past couple years were funded during the peak covid 2020-2022 era of exteme money printing. Investors thought people would be stuck inside playing overwatchlikes forever because they have to foresight of a stickbug
>>735124785>3D scanned humans with retarded scifi armor made by someone who hates scifi
>>735124865Well yeah, because they just copied other successful games. None of these characters look unique.
>>735124745They thought it was going to be all the rage. So they all jumped into making their own thinking nobody else had the idea. Meanwhile 50 different studios apparently had the idea. Now they're all realizing they're releasing into an already flooded market with gay ass designs. At no point did they stop and rethink, they just kept going. Straight up tunnel vision. We got Concord 9, 10 and 11 on the way
>>735124085They're getting closer and closer to getting it with these character designs tbdesu. Highguard realized that you shouldn't be actively unappealing, but failed to realize that you need to be actively appealing.This one realizes that you need to be appealing, but doesn't realize that you also need to be interesting.I wonder if one day one of these random hero shooters that aren't attached to something like valve or marvel will actually take off desukek no
>>735124785theres only 1 half naked woman and shes brown so it doesnt count. its also not clear if she has her feet out.
>>735124901>We got Concord 9, 10 and 11 on the wayConcord steam charts bros we eating good
>>735124175Esports has never been profitable though
>>735124085Isn't the green guy just Flubber?
>>735124935>its also not clear if she has her feet out.Freeze frame at 2 seconds.
>>735124745Multiplayer shooters have the widest potential audience. So if you're gambling on a wild success, you might as well gamble for the highest return if you do manage to be successful.That's all any of this is: Gambling.
unreal engine was a mistake
>>735124438That's just the standard AAA dev cycle now because everyone thinks they are rockstar. Hell the whole reason concord got greenlit with the absurd budget was because one exec jew'd sony into thinking it would be their fortnite. He got promoted and got a ton of money and later on was one of the main people involved in giving the game no marketing and letting it out to die.
>>735124085https://youtu.be/JEugYe4JeHQoh right, it's this slop. already forgotten about it
>>735124785Sex appeal is a multiplier, it makes something that's already good better.
>>735124979isnt that jeffs new game the leggend of california
>>735124820Plenty of you said that
>>735124085Still a bit generic but at least they're trying with the chimp man and the goo man. Astronaut chick looks like the first surfer chick took the green goo mans bukkake.
>>735124438It is fucking outrageous that it takes these studios so fucking long to shit out a dozen mediocre character models and half a dozen mediocre maps for their dogshit shooter. There's fucking nothing going on in terms of assets, narrative, scripting or anything. These are absolute bare minimum products how is it taking more than an entire console generation to shit them out?
>>735124085I kind of like the slime fella.
>>735124785It's good for getting your game to not flop on release, but the designs themselves tell us it's a corposlop shooter like Concord, so it will bleed players quickly.
>>735124085>sexless nicki minaj>literal pride parade>the most generic chinese woman ever >zesty samurai>a literal chimpanzee>a transsexual octopus>the most racist man alive's fapping hand>sir fortnitesalot>literal Flubber>Asmongold>Danica Patrick>Anonymouswhat were they thinking?
>>735125085>what were they thinking?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>>735124963>>735124770I think he used to look more like Daw in last year's trailer.
>>735124997>monkey guy throws a banana cluster bomb straight from worms
Are hero shooters any fun to play? Anytime I've looked up gameplay of Overwatch it was just a bunch of visual effects everywhere. I couldn't tell what the fuck was going on.
>>735124085Because men with no actual enthusiasm for vidya want to have invested early in the next big fortnite money maker. It means literally nothing to them if they have to put a few million in to killing some game studios by forcing them to make flops. 1 fortnite will pay for the flops.Yes that relies on the logic that gamers will just switch to a new game at some point if you put enough alternatives to a game they like out there. Yes I know that isn't borne out by evidence. No they do not understand this. These people are more suit than man.
>>735124438When Pirate_Software was ousted as a lazy nepotism hire by an ex-Blizzard ev, another ex-Blizzard dev confessed a lot of team members were just as lazy. Watching Netflix on the 2nd screen during working hours so their effective working hours a day were 2 at most.
>>735124889>None of these characters look unique.Yeah, this dude in particular looks almost exactly like the protag from Bionic Commando.>>735124882That's still an improvement over the gender bending weirdness of Concord.
>>735125040You have it backwards.Attractive characters are not a sign of a good game.Characters that are so unattractive that it can have only happened on purpose are signs of a bad game.
>>735124997I hate that the Time Takers logo is not that far off from Overwatch and Highguard
>>735124875>Nobody really has the passion like in the old days Would YOU have passion if you were working in some huge corporation on some soulless hero shooter meant to cash in on the latest trend?
>>735124085Because the industry is financed by out of touch investors who never had a single creative thought in their entire lives, and all these people want, is their own Fortnite/Overwatch to print money for them
>>735124714Ah but you see he works as a mascot at a Japanese themed amusement park named Shogunville to pay off his student loans.
>>735125130>Are hero shooters any fun to play?They're class-based shooters but without any vehicles or weapon loadouts and teams are very small instead of big battles. Hero shooters are a downgrade of what we used to have.
>>735124745if you are being paid to feature certain types of character designs, the easiest way to do that is to make a cast of such characters, and the easiest way to implement that into gameplay is by making each character into a class, which effectively kills 2 birds with 1 stone. your character is given a purpose, and your class has an aesthetic. shooters are the easiest genre to implement out of the box since that's the base case that most engines were designed for, so you get paid for a glorified asset flip. and you make it a multiplayer game because that's what gets the most attention. so, a character based, online, shooter game = overwatch clone.
>>735124882just bite the bullet and make one with Tsutomu Nihei biomechanical armor already.
>>735125167not reallyat least concord had an identity
>>735124085Exactly when did people who didn't grow up playing video games or like video games or really any fiction at all until it became socially acceptable begin making the games?
>>735124375Overwatch was at its peak for a super short time, once PUBG came out in 2017 it was nothing but downhill for Overwatch. By 2019 it should have been obvious that it's all over for Overwatch. So it makes zero sense for Overwatch to have such an influence on the gaming industry. Even ignoring that it should have been obvious to everyone that they need to cancel all their Concordlikes after the failure of Concord.
>>735125223At least that would be a character. Amusement Park worker who went psychotic and whose weapons are improvised from cleaning and gardening tools and tourist merchandise crap.
>>735124085>half the characters are cute girls>nip>no black guys>monky>obvious pedophile blob man>cool looking white guywhy would this one flop? it doesn't look like concord 3
>>735125189Entirely self-inflicted. If they're not passionate about video games then they should change careers, and it sounds like they should have never been in the industry in the first place. But that's the thing. We have tens of thousands of game developers who are now deeply embedded in the industry simply because they need a job, and they will continue to get jobs because of their resume. This is it. It's this, forever.
>>735124963looks like child molester flubber
>>735124980>concord died due to no marketinglmao, no it died because it's shittier overwatch with ugly characters
>>735124542>It plays like third-person Battlefield with heroesSo...Battlefield Heroes?
>>735125348I was just trying to think of a way to somehow make "guy in samurai gear" in to shitty gen x quip man.
>>735125359It doesn't look like it's trying to be ugly on purpose like concord, but it's still a complete failure in terms of looking attractive.
>>735124085ZHE CONCORDLIKES VILL CONTINUE UNTIL ZHE MORALE IMPROVES!
>>735124085>swimsuit woman with some sort of board/glider?>looks like they rolled through a bunch of paintcans woman with a disco ball gun of some sort>generic asian lady>literally just a samurai>monkey>Star Wars alien>the guy with what is probably the lamest looking power gauntlet in all fiction>Star Wars soldier with shield>Flubber Man>Not Keanu Reeves>pink astronaut with mascot alien pet>Dubstep DJThe Flubberman is the most unique and memorable design here. The Chimp would've scored more points if Overwatch didn't already have Winston. Rest feel either generic/inoffensive or Concord-like. Primarily discoball lady, the guy with the plastic looking power gauntlet, and the Glider Woman.
>>735125409No one is passionate about all types of video games. Everyone has tastes and genres they love and genres they hate. If you want devs to be passionate then make interesting games not shooter slop.
>>735124714>>735125348The premise is that people are pulled across history at the moment they died into a big tournament to compete for a do-over. He's a real samurai but he got scifi armor because the tournament is in the future.
>>735124882Very bold of them to choose Nerf as their primary design inspiration.
Easier to monetize a set cast with costumes/abilities and you can write nonsensical backgrounds to check boxes.
>>735124085>realism of the people clashed against the stylization of the outfitswhen will they learn that this shit looks weird?you can't make hyper realistic cartoon characters
>>735124085Isn't the entire point of Concord that the characters were ugly DEI?
>>735125605>If you want devs to be passionate then make interesting gamesThe devs are the ones making the games, what the fuck are you even talking about? Devs not being passionate about the shit they're making is literally not my problem whatsoever.
>>735124085dlss5 will fix it
These designs wouldn't be awful if the art was stylized instead of generic unrealslop.
>>735124085Those characters look so goddamn bland.Fucking hell, they even do that kind of animated shit like korean and chinese MMOs. And they fucking sucks.
>>735125626An actual nerf branded shooter would be funny if they just went all in.Like just made quake 3 arena but it is a futuristic nerf marketing streaming show where after taking enough hits you just get teleporting out of the arena and everything is extreme and radical and covered in marketing slogans.
Are the characters ugly? No.Are they boring? Yes.A good setting and atmosphere is just as important as character designs. You can get away with a lot of mundane character designs if the setting supports it. The game has no literal setting, so all the characters just feel out of place in their own game. Sure, it's "on purpose" because of their time travel shit, but that doesn't make the setting and the characters not clash.
>>735124085>only one brown character and a whole bunch of whites/asianswhy are you seething about thisyou should support games that are less woke
>>735124865>I think the hero shooter genre is dead;I wouldn't call it dead, but it's probably saturated.
>>735125614Genuinely might make it even worse because now they're relying on the world's most generic backstory to justify a lack of character design. Someone got paid to take a generic samurai asset from the store.
>>735124085>ChatGPT, generate me a cast for my game. Be extremely creative. The theme of the game is something related to time so make all of them themed after some random age. Maybe put in some alien or something too. Come up with a quirky design for all of them
>>735124979I wasn't expecting that>Make futuristic-looking characters>Put them in a generic european medieval fort under UE5 sloppa prepared for mobile phones (meaning, shitty looks and shitty performance)What the fuck.
>>735125740>You should support this woke game because it's not as woke as the other woke gameNo.
>>735125738>An actual nerf branded shooter would be funny if they just went all inMultiple ones already exist, they're all fucking terrible.https://youtu.be/PzInIECDPgM?si=k38KekAY0nAOHHFWWe're long past the days of Chex Quest and Cool Spot.
>>735125614are they fighting for the holy grail?
>>735125813If you look at the level design they're definitely pulling 90% of their assets from the store. You don't need an artstyle or any consistency when you can handwave everything with time travel.
>>735124085this is that throw the same thing at the wall until it sticks
>>735124085>>735125104Wait, I saw that fat guy with another skin. Like here>>735125112
>>735125740Ehh, it looks boring.It's not even over-the-top sexy like The First Descendant, it just looks like UE5 Game™
>>735125189"Passion? Bro I get PAID to make games and I get to tell people I work at EA!!"
>>735124085>gay Storm>gayer Zarya>thin Mei>samurai man>monkey>squid guy>Temu Bionic Commando>robot? man in space armor? can't really tell>Flubber Man>Wish.com Johnny Silverhand>neon pink generic spacesuit girl>Tracer but what if Legion from DBDweird list of characters
>>735124785Their designs are ugly even if sexier, that chick half-naked has no sex appeal, looks like a regular girl in a swimsuit.Blue Archive has characters covered from head to toe and people draw them being railed the moment they get announced.The key is a good design, no one is looking at these characters and saying "I wish they were in a better game"
>>735125740Why would I support something this bland-looking? Every guy looks beta as fuck. And I bet that the only cute girl (the asian one) is a "OMG kawaii yuri ;;))"
>>735124901And I for one can't wait to see the pileup. This trash genre deserves nothing more.
>>735125884Reminds me of that Nexon MOBA from like a decade ago that died almost immediately; Ascendant One.
>>735125614Isn't that just the plot of Soul Edge?
>>735125813This. Sounds worse than what I imagine.
>>735125759It has been for a while, it's the same shit MMOs, MOBAs, and military shooters went through
>>735125614Given how often you see cyber samurai in animu its baffling how they managed to make him look so generic.
How the fuck is Valve the only one that knows how to design characters?
>>735125967Never heard of itStill, it lasted jack shit, huh
>>735125813Well at least they won't have to deal with anyone complaining about lore breaking skins.
>heh, remember concord? well we made another soulless hero shooter but with soulless HOT characters therefore won't be another concordThey really don't get it and neither do the niggers here who think this won't flop because they have bland ass asian girls
>>735125884Yuna is cute but it really doesn’t scream “hero shooter”. A big problem with the designs of Concord and Highguard is that there’s no indication from the character alone what their gameplay will be like.
>>735124375>where every studio started making mobas and killed them shortly after launch.DOTA 2 launched 4 years after LoL and is still going strong. Honor of Kings launched 6 years after LoL and is bigger than LoL overall. There are always a few winners. That's all that matters.
>>735124085https://youtu.be/_ChQK8j6so8
>>735126043They have good designers and good creative directors.And have a fuckton of playtests.
>>735126043Cause they still stylize things instead of going for stock realism
>>735126072honor of kings doesn't count, mobile game for third worlders
>>735124085It's....it's Concordathon
>>735125605I couldn't agree more but they keep making heroslop shooterslop liveserviceslop anyway.
>>735126017>It has been for a whileI mean, Marvel Rivals launched 16 months ago. It had big launch numbers and held on to them for a while. Deadlock also did well for an invite-only early access game. Two new hero shooters launching in the past 2 years and gaining success means that the hero shooter genre was not saturated when they entered it.
I think the problem with a lot of these is they're trying to have the quirks, and uniqueness of anime characters, while using western designs. It feels insincere. Like, if you described these characters in writing, you'd probably envision some anime, or JRPG character, but these western studios slather their half measure, semi-cartoony, semi-realistic visuals over everything, and it just gives everyone the ick.
>>735126043Valve has a bad habit of making gold then ruining it later with a redesign
>>735126104Stylized art direction + actual optimization is going to be the only way modern devs can weather the storm of the current gaming market, given what’s happening with RAM
Concord, Highguard and this garbage all look like they're the same fucking game and I wouldn't be surprised if they all shared the same designers with how incestuous the business became.
>>735126260this one's chinese or korean or some shit
>>735126260Concord is in its own tier of shit. Highguard and this game look like it can be the same game, though.
>>735124085why the fuck are they so obsessed with making more and more concords, holy fucking shit, the niggers in charge of these westoidal tranny devs are deranged kikes, no one wants this gay ass nigger looter shooter bullshit, fuck off
>>735126241>it just gives everyone the ick.Not really because Square Enix and Riot do it and everyone raves about those. As always it’s about execution rather than the idea/style itself.
>>735126293i would legit be surprised if that was the case cuz the asian chick looks way too generic everyday girl to be made by koreans or chinese gooners
@grok generate me another soulless hero slop but with hot girls and manly men unlike concord, also make sure it has 0 identity
>>735126208Valve have the market advantage of a customer base who will try things on the basis of it being a valve game. That's just not something devs lie whatever the fuck the concord or highguard devs were called.Aside from that, uhh, one incident valve also have a pretty good track record of actually supporting games, so I think people are willing to overlook something like deadlock not being finished yet in a way they wouldn't for other devs.
>>735124085>Highguard DLCWhy?!
>>735126339ncsoftkoreans make a lot of soulless shit
>>735126323>and everyone raves about those.Huh?Both of those companies have had very recent flops.Squeenix even put out their own live service PVP hero shooter recently and it also flopped.Not to mention their recent gay Among Us thing that looked like shit.
>>735125614isn't that just the plot of eternal champions?
>>735126323>Square Enix and RiotWhat does Square do? And Riot very much stylizes their art in a way people find appealing. Look at all the fucking LoL porn.
>>735125884why is tekken 7 yoshimitsu iin there
>>735126260They should merge them all together and call it Conguard Takers. They all exist in the same universe where Concord cast is a bunch of hipsters working at garbage recycling facility, Highguard are basically hillbillies from a corner of the galaxy and Timetakers are from an arena bloodsport.
>>735124745investors want unlimited MTX potential with a GAASthey also are more attracted to something they kind of understand "oh, so each player players a character, makes them stronger and can even build out a roster? so just like sports ball!"hero shooters offer both
The primary audience for this game is probably the same people who think DLSS5 looks great.
>>735124785gameplay is all that matters, none of these concordlikes have good gameplay nor do they bring anything innovative to the table
>>735124085The industry got mindbroken by League of Legends. You guys call them Concord-likes now and wouldn't think of this but nobody actually cares about the gameplay, what they look at is how the characters are treated like actors/celebrities with a lot of glitter. They try to pursue this angle no matter what.
>>735126442If this is just 3rd person Battlefield, then I can see it being a fun time. I played Wild Assault for a little bit and that's just furry 3rd person Battlefield, although that game just completely died.
>>735124785they still look bad, for oneand two, not deliberately uglifying your characters is only the first, lowest hurdle to a successful gamethe game itself still has to have quality
>>735126420Man I prag to whatever fucking god is up there that one of these games becomes successful and adds in the cast of concord, hyenas, highguard, and whatever else as collab DLCs.
>>735125759>I wouldn't call it dead, but it's probably saturated.Fair enough; but I think the other conclusion here is that unless there is guaranteed server support for a while no one is going to take a risk on a new hero shooter.Like if I was going to get into one then I'd pick one that's already successful, that has a good player base and that isn't going to have the plug pulled on it any time soon. I think without at least some guarantee that the server support will be around for a while then the only chance a new Hero shooter has is if its a hit right out of the gate like Marvel Rivals was.
>>735126452>the characters are treated like actors/celebrities with a lot of glitterI hate this shit
>>735124875we pretend to work and they pretend to pay
>>735125130>Are hero shooters any fun to play?hero fpses* and no
>>735125130Overwatch was at the startbut they balanced the fun right out of the game
>>735126043I mean 99% of Dota 2's cast is unpleasant to look at so they don't have a perfect record
>>735126452wrong, i care about the gameplay, so does everyone else whether they admit it or not, gameplay is all that matters, everything else is tertiary to gameplay, and anyone claiming otherwise doesnt fucking play videogames, they just coom to retarded niggershit
>>735126043>How the fuck is Valve the only one that knows how to design characters?>Proceeds to make mid tier RIOT inspired slop charactersFuck off
>>735126653>gameplay is all that mattersexplain how literal movie games sell tho?
>>735126371>ncshitguaranteed to be shit gameplay then, pure soulless cashgrab shit made by nepobaby retarded niggers
>>735126043All of those look like shit.
>>735126648No, but they fit into their world just fine. If you have a strong setting. This game has no setting so the characters just kind of exist in a vacuum, which makes them worse.
>>735124175Investors probably think gachas and battle pass-likes are the same thing.
>>735126698>it's another episode of the "sales = good game" fallacymoviegames sell BECAUSE they don't have any gameplay you retarded pillowbiting nigger, they're games for retarded niggers like you who hate videogames and especially hate actually PLAYING videogames, try growing a fucking brain for once, you intellectual protozoa
>>735126510>>735126442>the game itself still has to have quality>gameplay is all that mattersThen explain why dogshit like marvel rivals is successful
>>735126442Highguard had decent gunplay but then everything else was simultaneously overdesigned and underdesigned like the whole game was designed by ChatGPT. Lets have resource gathering phase but because theres plenty of resources for everyone and team bases are too far away, theres no tension, stakes or strategy to it, its just busywork for the sake of busywork.Lets have loot gathering phase but the chests are everywhere so theres no competition between teams on who gets to loot them. All the loot is just the same few guns with damage number tweaks.Lets have CTF phase that is over quickly because teams are too small. The flag is actually this magic sword but you actually can't use the sword, its just a key.Lets have assaulting phase where you use the flag to summon a siege machine you can't actually drive or go inside in and is just a glorified door opening animation.Lets give both teams similar amount of life tickets so attacking is actually a bad decision and its always safer to just skip attacking entirely and camp in your base. The team who does the objectives is at severe disadvantage.
>>735126653>so does everyone else whether they admit it or not,If this were true /v/ wouldn't be clamoring for Marathon's failure or the failure of many other games just from a glance of their aesthetic over the actual substance of the game
>>735126858Having decent gunplay for a first-person shooter is like saying the house has a decent foundation. Like, no shit, that's the baseline.
>>735125130only vanilla tf2
>>735126846marvel rivals has gameplay that the faggots who play it like, retard
I am genuinely interested in trying this. As long as there isn't invasive anticheat.The concept reminds me of Timesplitters. Not as well executed, but serviceable as a reason for throwing lots of characters from different time periods together.
>>735125359Concord being "woke" wasn't the sole thing that killed it. What killed it was trying to cram itself into an overcrowded (and mostly F2P) genre while being a shit game that cost money while also having a cash shop and shit characters nobody wants to play as and/or look at.
>>735126858>Highguard had decent gunplayno it didn't and so-called "decent gunplay" does not make good gameplay, highguard's gameplay sucked ass
All those studios are sleeping on a Mahou Shoujo themed game.
>>735126375>>735126390https://youtu.be/e3D7Fj1PsWk?si=avZDcX7Wx8YkFrgv>90 million views
>>735126958And what makes you think these concordlikes don't?
>>735126906concordathon has shit gameplay. and bungie are niggers for ruining destiny 2. end of.
>>735126980It was also the gameplay. Movement speed was super sluggish for no good reason and to compensate for that every character was made tanky. The only character who felt did any real damage was the asian chick with the wrist bow.
>>735127032because no one plays them. if they did then people would be playing them, and buying all the cashgrab microtransaction shits, and dogging their retarded nigger friends to play it with them
okay, its very very obvious all the devs working and can read the room, dont stop because they want to stretch the paycheck until the project dies on releaseits not like execs actually check or now and care about to stop the project some how?
>>735124979God damn I bet if I went on the UE5 asset store I could find all of these
>>735126442>gameplay is all that matterspeople won't play your ugly game with your ugly tranny characters if the characters are ugly>>735126980>>735127071marvel rivels did fine. it's literally because the characters were ugly fat trannies
>>735124085Its just woke corporate investors trying to push an ideology and not knowing how the video game industry works. They think its like the movie industry where no-one has a choice other than to eat up their woke slop. Reality is if a game is shit, overpriced, buggy or woke ppl will just buy the next Lethal Company or Hearts of Iron 4 instead.
>>735127020This feels disingenuous. League, overall, has a stylized art style. Imagine the character designs in OP's webm, but in more a visual style similar to this, and they'd almost make sense. It's this creepy "real person wearing anime cosplay" style that's turning a lot of people off.
>>735124248It's this>probably because hr only hires the same people over and over, so you get the same stuff over and overPlus almost all game studios nowadays are owned by investors from the moment they register the LLC, so every studio from day 1 is focused on increasing the ROI for their owners, which naturally results in studios chasing slop over and over and over and over again. Money comes first, then followed by a means to get the most money. Gaming is essentially dead as a medium for creating culture. You're gonna get the same slop, forever, as long as the money flows from the pockets of normalfag troglodytes to the portfolios of investors. The only place you're gonna find actual content now is occasionally from Japan, and from obscure indie titles on Steam with around 1000 reviews or less. Even "indie" devs and studios ar primarily in it for the money now.
>>735124980>one exec jew'd sony into thinking it would be their fortniteCorrection: he jew'd them into thinking it would be a massive multimedia property. "The biggest thing since Star Wars."
>>735125614then they should have stuck with him as a regular ass samurai instead of stapling future armor to him. samurai jack was literally a time traveller and he was almost never seen without his gi and straw hat in the regular series
>>735124085Not as disgusting as the designs from Concord itself but still. This shit is fucking grim.
>>735124085Why do I even bother coming here
>>735127123>people won't play your ugly game with your ugly tranny characters if the characters are uglythey will if the gameplay is good, but trannpid westoidal californoidal nigger "devs" are incapable of game design, as they fundamentally do not understand the rules of game design, so it never happens that way
>why yes, the cute little asian girl IS the Punisher equivalent. her design clearly conveys that.
>>735127161>It's this creepy "real person wearing anime cosplay" style that's turning a lot of people off.Clearly not because league does that and gets hundreds of millions of views and square enix has been doing that for 25 years with little issue
What is going on? I thought Concord flopped, yet they keep trying to make it again and again.
>>735124085Shit like overwatch and Apex made a lot of money, so just the fact alone that a game of this type could make a fortune makes suits greenlight anything that has the same broad strokes without taking into consideration other factors like market saturation or how devoid of charisma the characters are.
>>735127220>Clearly not because league does thatWhat? Are you telling me this shit is "realistic," and not stylized? And what has Square been doing that's realistic? Further, what has Square been doing that's SUCCESSFUL? Just fucking Final Fantasy 14, I guess?
>>735127020Ok, now post 2HKO, which launched and was such a wet fart that they laid off half the studio immediately after.
>>735125827it's a game based on time travel, there's a future city map as well.
why are hero shooters coming out in 2026 and not 2016
>>735127323Does 2HKO look like the cinematic I posted?>>735127291Does Arcane look like the cinematic I posted?>Further, what has Square been doing that's SUCCESSFUL?What does that have to do with anything?Squares failures aren’t because of their visual design, given they’ve had pretty much the same attitude for their major releases since 1999.
>>735127135>They think its like the movie industry where no-one has a choice other than to eat up their woke slop.hollywood had 2 of the lowest grossing months in like 30 years last year even if you don't account for inflation. the hollywood sloppa is so fucking bad they brought scrubs back because no one wants to watch their film or tv slop movies made 20% less money in 2025 than in 2019 and it was the lowest gross since 1997 and 2 of the "top" films at the oscars, One battle after another and sinners didn't make money>>735127218they won't. if all the characters are fat brown trannies the game is dead on arrival no matter what
>>735126973it's made by chink-adjacent creatures so of course there's going to be invasive software involved
>>735127382because companies are letting devs take a decade to put out sloppa
>>735125614>we have quake 3 arena at home>that home is Californiaok.
>>735127406>Does Arcane look like the cinematic I posted?You posted one cinematic, while ignoring 20 years of the game having an appealing stylized art style. Oh, let me guess, Warcraft is totally realistic, because higher budget cinematics lean closer to realism? Why am I even bothering talking to you, by the way. You know exactly what I'm getting at, and are purposefully choosing to be ignorant for a reason I cannot genuinely understand.
>>735124085because they all came from the same area and school. so they all have the same background. who knows how many years until the fad passes. its much like all the calart bullshit that game out in /tv/.
>>735127512We are talking about art styles, not games. Since clearly nobody has a problem with the artstyle of league cinematics given that they have a combined total of a billion views at this point, it’s fair to say my initial point was correct in that it’s more about execution than the idea being inherently off putting to people.
>>735124085>we want to hit the live-service lottery jackpot>but, also, our game's visual design philosophy must set a better example than our main competitors
>>735124085They're not ugly, the design choices are gaudy/excessive but each character is "Attractive"The goo guy is fun.
>>735124085We'd be in a much better place if gamers understood that this is all clueless investors and MBAs checking the boxes of what they think would maximize return on investment rather than some nefarious plot for social engineering.
>>735127597?? You don't play the art style in the League cinematics. You play this. A colorful stylized game. It is literally the same as Warcraft. When they release high budget cinematics, they sometimes skew towards realism more, but not even always that. Often still being stylized, and cartoony. See for instance Arcane.
>>735127703Oh I forgot to add, they're INCREDIBLY safe/boring otherwise. They're "Attractive default" overall. It's way better than the deliberately ugly, but it's also incoherent and bad design.
>>735127707Any social engineering is part of the project to make maximum returns.
>>735125653The term already lost all meaning when it was applied to Highguard, where only 2 of the characters were ugly and then the rest were just kinda generic "Wandered Off the Set of Paragon" kinds of designs.Now it literally just means "hero shooter," although there's an added layer that it's specifically being used by twitter tourists that are trying to farm content here by making threads and then play the algorithm back on their home site by using it as a unified term
>>735127219This is the most infuriating shit, TF2 laid out the perfect blueprints 20 years ago. There's no excuse for this.
>>735127412they will, league of legends already proved that over a decade ago, dumb nigger
Honest question, do people still play overwatch? I played until like 2017 but it was starting to get old and I hated the political aspect of it. It was even taking a while to get a match back then
>>735127738Ok. Good thing I didn’t post any of that and posted the cinematic instead.You might want to consider reading a reply chain before responding to it.
>>735127854Blizzdrones fell for a re-brand and a de-re-brand, never underestimate their stupidity.
>>735125596>The Flubberman is the most unique and memorable design here.This is Viscous from Valve's game Deadlock. TBF this Viscous is a placeholder model but seems a lil sus
>>735127809they won't you retarded faggot
>>735127707>stop noticing, investors just really, really, really like losing money for 15 years in a rowNo.
>>735127885And why do people care about the League cinematics? Because they play the cartoony stylized game. When you buy skins in League, are you buying realistic looking designs from those cinematics, or variants of the already stylized, colorful characters?May I ask what is genuinely wrong with you? Why are you doing this. This is a very easy to understand thing, but you are purposefully choosing to be ignorant for some personal and bizarre reason.
>>735124085You could tell me these are AI designed (derogatory) and I'd believe you
>>735127973they already didandnthey did with wow before thatyou're just a dumb coomer nigger who doesn't know shit about fuckall
>>735124085we are still getting george floyd core games
>>735127994Why post the spambot image? Now I’m starting to think you are a troll of some kind.And why do you struggle to understand my simple point?You claim this style of design is inherently off putting. You are just objectively wrong. It is all about execution. People will enjoy anything if it’s executed well enough.It’s also funny how you ignored Square Enix doing this since Final Fantasy VIII and the vast majority love it.Again, I REALLY recommend reading a reply chain before replying if you want people to take you seriously.
>>735124882>>735125626I can't even say this shit looks like a toy. Toys still have to look cool enough to make children want to pester their parents to buy them.
>>735124085Basically they know people were sick and tired of brown and bloom and dingy but at the same time there's a constant push for "realism" and "visual fidelity" by corpos so everything winds up looking like background extras from live action One Piece.
>>735127994>this art style sucks and everyone hates it>a video with this art style got hundreds of million views and great praise for its visuals >UR A LEFTISTwhy is modern /v/ like this?
>>735124283>Nintendo detonates a nuke in IndiaI would buy ten switch 2s
>>735127989You've never seen a gambling addiction?
>>735125884jackson pollock ahh character design
>>735124785>Nigger, chink, mystery meatNot thanks
>>735124283The Battlefield slop was Battlefield Heroes, which was notoriously pay to win to the point you could buy gold ammo for your guns that did more damage.
>>735128115Are you ESL? What is genuinely wrong with you? I have been telling you that realistic designs with bizarre, anime-esque cosplay over them done by westerners is jarring, and off-putting, and that's a lot of the reason why these games fail. League of Legends does not have a realistic art style. The successful Final Fantasy games are not actively realistic either. You mention FF8? This is an anime dude.>>735128196You're double replying now, because you know you're acting retarded. Also, do you think the game in OP's webm looks like a League cinematic?
>>735124085i can't be bothered to give a shit about this one.it's ncsoft so you know from the start that it's gonna be korea slop.who really cares if this fails, honestly.
>>735128067you clearly have a double digit IQ moron. you probably post in the shit eating thread on /b/
>>735125884>white and light blue on everyoneNew pokemon protags have that too despite it looking bad. Is this the new directive?
>>735127707>>735127753>>735128224>>735127989movies are also doing 30 year lows. those retards love burning other people's money >>735127989it's not their money, it's public employee pension funds and retirement accounts. black rock manages retirement acocunts
>>735128252>Also, do you think the game in OP's webm looks like a League cinematicNo, because it’s badly executed.>League of Legends does not have a realistic art styleTheir major cinematics do and they get hundreds of millions of views. If that art style was off putting they wouldn’t spend tens of millions of dollars making it look like that.>The successful Final Fantasy games are not actively realistic eitherFFVII Rebirth follows the design direction of FFXIII, which follows the design direction of FFX, which was a development of what was seen in FFVIII. It’s the origin of depicting anime designs in a realistic manner, and people love it. If you’re saying those games don’t count because they look good, then you have missed the point of the reply chain. It’s why I’ve repeatedly stressed reading a reply chain before replying. It will really help you in your future posting.
>>735124901The sad thing is they could have at least made some money by pivoting into a less crowded subgenre like L4D/Vermintide knockoff. Though I guess Strange Brigade, Back 4 Blood, and Firebreak didn't do too well so maybe not.
at least the characters aren't repulsively hideous in this one
>>735124085these games think>eclectic collection of charactersand throw style completely out the window. disco ball girl? literal chimpanzee and alien? fresh prince of bel-air with a robot arm? retro-futuristic astronaut girl? tacticool samurai LARPer? What do these have to do with each other? It looks like shit.
>>735124085What's up with western devs and their character designs? Why do they just look like lame cosplayers?
>>735125449He's literally me frfr
>>735128224>>735128337>greedy jews just don't care for building up wealth, they'd rather do nothing but gamble on extremely risky, extremely well known unprofitable trends for 15 years in a row, in all entertainment industries simultaneously, don't worry about itNo, I think I will.
>>735128469So that cosplay is easy for people to do. Free advertisement.
>>735124085thanks my flop list has been updatedflops of 2026highguardrelootedkiller inn1348marathonhorizon hunters gathering King of Meatupcoming flops007 first lightSilent hill townfall fairgameDirective 8020the legend of California time takers
>>735124085Sure, let everyone make custom Sonic characters and see how messy it gets
>>735128384>Their major cinematics do and they get hundreds of millions of views.You do not play as that, dude. You do not play the realistic graphics. You play and spend money on the cartoony anime stylized graphics.>FFVII Rebirth follows the design direction of FFXIII, which follows the design direction of FFXAren't the Rebirth games not selling particularly well? lmao. Isn't Square Enix considered a shell of their former sells, almost entirely held up by FF14 cultists? You're crazy dude. Just some retard who had a dumb thought, and won't let go, accepting it was dumb.
>>735124085Looks like they asked chatgpt to make a concordlike but wanted the characters not be ugly, but still lame and gay
Why can't games look like this again?
>>735128504the way blackrock and vanguard and state street work they literally don't care about RoI. Black Rock alone is the asset manager for 1 in 3 public employee pension funds and 1 in 4 workers in the US. They make money off of the fees for managing the accounts. they literally don't give a shit about RoI as long as it's above whatever number they have to hit because it's not their money
>>735126043picture unrelated I imagine
>>735128629Because that never existed
>>735128516>You do not play as that, dude. You do not play the realistic graphics. You play and spend money on the cartoony anime stylized graphics.Good thing I’m just talking about art direction then.Perhaps if I say it in caps you will actually read it this time.YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY READ A REPLY CHAIN BEFORE REPLYING TO IT>Aren't the Rebirth games not selling particularly well?> Isn't Square Enix considered a shell of their former sellsAs I said earlier, that has nothing to do with visual design. Unfortunately you can’t read for some reason so that went completely over your head.Perhaps if I repeat it again in all caps you will definitely get it through your head.YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY READ A REPLY CHAIN BEFORE REPLYING TO IT>dumb thoughtIt’s not a dumb thought, it’s reality.>this style of design is inherently off putting>no that’s wrong, it’s the execution that’s off-putting not the inherent style, to prove my point here’s several examples of this style being done well and it being popular and loved >UMMM UR A LEFTIST/ESL/CRAZY RETARD I DONT HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOUwhich one of us sounds like they know what they’re talking about?
>>735128726>he doesn't know
>>735128629>tranime
>>735128469>>735128505They want women to cosplay the characters. WB/DC pulls in a ton of money each year off of roasties buying Harley Quinn merch even though her movies don't do well and women don't read comics (no one does). because roasties will buy harley shit and dress up as harley. look at how bad that suicide squad film did vs how many roasties dressed like harley for Halloween that year
>>735128752Anon I have pics of her saved as well and no maria is a concept character with no actual media
>>735128629man i miss that game
>>735128505but you need a good or attractive design, 2B is ultra simple and hot, someone smarter than would be able to explain the difference
>>735128770where do you think you are, retardo?>>735128629what game?
I want out of this timeline already.
>>735126043Ivy my beloved.
>>735128297>retarded copmbrained nigger browses /b/ any year beyond 2006>ironically has the audacity to call anyone else double digit iqoh i'm fuckin laffin
>>735127123Marvel Rivals had fun art, fun animations, those eye-catching intro animations that people willingly shared all over social media, a big variety of characters both silly and serious, and the memeability (marketability) of having a doglike shark character named Jeff. Just playing the ideal versions of all these characters presented in a fun way after damn near two decades of superheroes wearing srs tacticool military gear with no color is a huge draw. The game's full of hooks to pull people in, even if it's just curiosity or wanting to play the Lopunny mod.Games need a hook, Concord didn't have one.None of the characters having any appeal just made a dead horse even more dead.Hell, even looking at the long-term plans for Concord, pretty much the only hook they had even planned was "cutscenes for a multiplayer game (eventually)" and "multimedia empire (eventually)", which is barely a hook and leans heavily on the success (haha) of the game funding it.(Also, sorry if this post is a mess, I got distracted a few times while writing it.)
>>735128505No one is ever going to cosplay as these garbage ass designs, lol
>>735128841>what game?maria
>cosplaybaitThat's retarded.>fanartbait That's the real deal, just look at how some pokemon bitches get fanarts that get huge numbers. That's free advertising.
>>735128853How the fuck is Dragon Age a Concordlike? What kind of retard made this list?
>>735128864I don't use /b/, you do, because you enjoy the shit eating threads because eating actual human (and animal) shit is your hobby, retard>>735128871people would have given it a chance if it had good character designs. other marvel games like midnight sons and avengers were DoA whereas rivals did well due to it's better designs
>>735126043You know everyone outside of your deadcuck bubble laughs at those designs, right?
>>735128741>no that’s wrong, it’s the execution that’s off-putting not the inherent styleSo do you believe OP's game has the same "style" as Final Fantasy? As League of Legends? Or are you just some fucking faggot trying to go, "um ackshually, there are no bad ideas, just bad execution." It feels as if you came into this conversation with an agenda I genuinely cannot fathom. What are you trying to get at? What are you trying to argue for? Articulate yourself. Pretend I am a dummy, and simply don't understand your point, and I NEED you to reiterate it in a succinct way.
Korean Blade and Soul and Black Desert had the best character creators ever a decade ago. Now the Black Desert sequel somehow doesn't have a character creator they would have taken no effort to put in? Like how the fuck does that happen?
>>735128920(Good) Fan artists are primary Japanese or SEA and they definitely aren't playing this shit or caring about these DEI characters.
>>735124997this is Quake 3 set up lol
>>735128994Steamchart numbers seem to say otherwise, but I guess (You) want to be contrarian.
>>735128629>againretard
>>735128752>retarded coombrained nigger is so nigger retarded that the thinks OVA vhses are videogames>>>/a/
>>735128979nah nigger, you already admitted to being a subhuman shiteating coombrained retard who browses /b/, can't walk it back now, kill yourself posthaste
>>735125085Half of those could be added to MUGEN(the others are already in), someone get on that.
>>735129249If I can control it with a controller or remote in my hand it's a vidyaI don't make the rules
>>735128995>So do you believe OP's game has the same "style" as Final Fantasy?Perhaps listen to my advice for once and go back and read the original post.It was clearly referring to a specific art style of anime-like designs being rendered realistically as being offputing and a reason why the game will fail. I provided counterexamples of this style being done well.Anyone with basic reading comprehension would understand then that I think the OP webm is badly done. And anyone with a brain could understand my point and argument, as I have stated it succinctly multiple times. But just for you…>no that’s wrong, it’s the execution that’s off-putting not the inherent style, to prove my point here’s several examples of this style being done well and it being popular and loved
>>735124085They missed the peak of hero shooters, and now Marvel Rivals kinda dominates through having good animation and already using popular characters
>>735129294you're the one who has made MULTIPLE posts on /b/ about eating human and animal shit
>>735129443that would make literally anything a video game>I don't make the rulesand i'm glad you don't, dipshit.
>>735129459Your examples were ridiculous and stupid. League of Legends does not look realistic. You kept hammering on about it, and proclaiming youtube views of cinematics as proof of everyone "loving' the art style. Meanwhile, the actual game is incredibly stylized and cartoony. Likewise, the Square games you mentioned aren't even performing particularly well. Many people have a negative reception towards them.What multiplayer game uses this art style template to success? Overwatch looks like a Pixar movie. Marvel Rivals looks like anime without any caveats. League does not use this art style within its actual product.
>>735129758>League of Legends does not look realistic.It’s cinematics use the style in discussion, which is why I posted them. >and proclaiming youtube views of cinematics as proof of everyone "loving' the art styleif people did not like the art style, those cinematics would not get hundreds of millions of views and riot would not spend tens of millions of dollars producing them in that way.>Meanwhile, the actual game is incredibly stylized and cartoony.This is irrelevant to my point which is why I didn’t talk about it.>Likewise, the Square games you mentioned aren't even performing particularly wellFinal Fantasy X is the best selling and the most well loved Final Fantasy game.>Many people have a negative reception towards them.What percentage of that negative reception is due to art style?So, no, my examples were not bad, you just have a crippling inability to read or reason. You keep trying to pull the reply chain into a different direction, at this point I’m not sure if it’s malice or retardation.
>>735126043holy shit that looks awful
>>735129957>This is irrelevant to my point which is why I didn’t talk about it.It is entirely relevant to the point! You are a clown, man. Goddamn. People watch those cinematics because they like League. Which is a heavily stylized, and cartoony game. It's literally the same shit as Warcraft and its art style shifts.>Final Fantasy X is the best selling and the most well loved Final Fantasy game.Imagine looking at the various Concord-likes, and saying, "it's just like FFX. :)" There is clearly a very specific stylization going on here that is leagues different from any of those games. There's a cohesive fantasy world, and design, influenced by Southeast Asian, and tropical cultures.
>designs so boring everyone in this board is going off on their own tangents
>>735130145Again, if the style was as offputting as you claim, the cinematics would not get hundreds of millions of views and Riot would not spend tens of millions producing cinematics in that style.> Imagine looking at the various Concord-likes, and saying, "it's just like FFX. :)" the original post (which you still refuse to read for some reason) refers to anime character designs being rendered realistically, which doesn’t really apply to Concord. You are also putting words into my mouth.>There is clearly a very specific stylization going on here that is leagues different from any of those games. There's a cohesive fantasy world, and design, influenced by Southeast Asian, and tropical cultures.So it seems your grand revaluation is “this game looks good, those other games look bad”what a genius you are. At this point it’s clear you are just a troll who never bothered to read the reply chain or any of my posts at all. You are what’s wrong with /v/. I stated my point almost 5 times and you still have no idea what anyone is talking about.Anyway, I accept your concession, because in your bullheadedness you just admitted that FFX has good art design, which is exactly what I was arguing about.I win.
>that one butthurt woke cultist samefag trying to make it look like people think deadlock looks badit looks a lot more appealing than marathon thats for sure lel
>>735127045The reception to it says otherwise though
>>735125884I find it very hard to put into words, but have you ever seen an advertisement about what gamers are supposedly like made by 50 year old corpo slaves? Those designs are exactly that
>>735124283>first clones>overwatchlil zoomie OW(2) was a decade after tf2 releasedyoure forgetting dirty bomb, nosgoth, monday night combat(?), fuckin tribes ascend even went with character classesThey all died horribly.
>>735126043Those characters look terrible what the fuck are you talking about?
>>735130350>Again, if the style was as offputting as you claim, the cinematics would not get hundreds of millions of views and Riot would not spend tens of millions producing cinematics in that style.Why don't they make the game look more like those cinematics, then? It's not just money. You can design things to look more realistic like those cinematics. They don't though. Even in their animated shows, they don't make League look realistic. Could it possibly be that League is inherently a very stylized franchise, and those cinematics exist for very specific dramatic moments, and are done with a noted intent? Nahhhh.>the original post (which you still refuse to read for some reason) refers to anime character designs being rendered realistically, which doesn’t really apply to Concord.I wrote the original post. I am the one who presented this notion in the first place. And I believe it still stands. If you describe a standard Concord-like character, you'd get an anime-esque, or JRPG-esque character, but it then gets filtered through a rotted western visual style, that results in the characters looking like 80-90% "normal" people, but wearing anime cosplay.>“this game looks good, those other games look bad”FFX has a cohesive art style that ultimately is NOT realistic, and merges fantasy, with specific cultural identities to create a functioning whole. Meanwhile, OP's webm looks like I'm watching a bunch of cosplayers at Anime Expo, dressing for half a dozen different franchises.
>>735124085No idea what this is, but it made me think: is there a multiplayer game where it's like traditional samurai vs. WW2 German soldier vs. Gangbanger vs. Ninja vs. Medieval Knight?Like a hero shooter type of roster but everyone is from a different time period so their period accurate designs make them look different enough from the other characters without having to make DEI golems?
>>735124785Vocal minority. Having attractive characters doesn't hurt but it still needs to be a good game.
>>735125884>space biologist
>>735129443no shit you don't make the rules, because you're a fucking retarded coombrained faggot who's posting on the wrong board, i make the fucking rules you dumb nigger and i say you need to FUCK OFF
>>735124085The top 30 games by profitability on earth are all mobile gatcha garbage. That style of game makes TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. They are bigger than GTA could ever dream to be. This is why coke head suits demand a slice of the pie and will keep burning investors money trying to chase that one score they can pretend to be Tony Montana on. This is why small team indie projects are dominating PC offering games that non gambling addicted wastes of oxygen actually want to play
>>735124085the funniest part about that video is that basically everyone's intro is at least somewhat showing off the character's whole deal, but the asian girl just turns around, fixes her hair and smiles
>>735130470cough, the sub-50k average concurrent daily players says otherwise on it having shit gameplay? lol, retard
>>735124085Terrible designs all around.
>>735130657aside from the nazi soldier and the gangbanger, deadliest warrior for xbox360 live has the rest of those and more like pirate and injun warrior and i forget what else, fun as fuck game too, good luck getting to play it though, let alone with anyone else, whoever holds the license to it should really re-release it on steam so that people can actually play it again and it can be on a platform that ISN'T going to sunset on it arbitrarily and suddenly
>>735130735dfo is neither mobile nor a gacha, and it's more profotable than games 2-29 in the list put together, try again retard
>>735127167>every studio from day 1 is focused on increasing the ROI for their owners, which naturally results in studios chasing slop over and over and over and over again. Money comes first, then followed by a means to get the most money.Which is why they keep chasing myths that have over a ten year track record of demonstrating that they destroy the entertainment industry and that the best they can do is parasitize preexisting success with diminishing returns! And why their pipeline is extremely wasteful and actually involves departments who's job is to make the product worse for the average customer! And why they run themselves like adult daycare centers until the money runs out and they suddenly start complaining about crunch! And why they've created an environment of toxic positivity where terrible ideas go unchallenged and no one is held accountable, often resulting in tens of millions of dollars lost! The "wider audience" thing is just a smokescreen to make it sound like they're trying to maximize profits when what's actually going on is that a bunch of narcissists are trying to use the entertainment industry for personal therapy and as a means to chase clout. This is as much the case for the clueless MBAs who won't get out of the way of the real talent as it is for the retarded theater kids and gender studies grads.
>>735125884>Yoshimitsu warframe 7 but bland and boring????
>>735130708How to read this chart: People were extremely interested in the character designs but were put off by the gameplay.The crown of great games with hot girls is on the floor. Whichever group picks it up will rule gaming for the next twenty years.
>>735130885>Deadliest Warrior for Xbox 360If this has local multiplayer I'll pick it up for the novelty.l, thanks for the rec.I just think a game with characters from different time periods and regions would be cool. The absurdity of seeing some modern hoodrat run up and wound a Ninja who disappears in a puff of smoke before throwing a handful of shuriken and then a galloping Knight kills both guys with his lance fascinates me.
>>735126442>none of these concordlikes have good gameplay nor do they bring anything innovative to the tableBut Concord and Highguard did tho.....
>>735124085It seems like the latest trend is to have 1-2 girls and maybe one guy who are somewhat passable (not amazing) and then a bunch of absolute dog shit designs. And we all know that those few okay-ish designs are bait.
>>735130793And is 50k players supposed to be bad? That's perfectly healthy for a game. And its public perception outside of /v/ is positive. I think you might be the retarded one here
>>735124085why are people crying if you been on pc for long enough we always had live service games come out this isnt anything new
>>735125884sardonic smirk? shant buy sorry!
>>735126043Those are ridiculously fucking gay and generic character designs. Even the style is completely devoid of anything unique.
Can we stop with the hero shooters? Hell, just stop making shooters in general. Do something original for fucks sake.
>>735130917>this 20yo game that isnt on any revenue list from the past 10 years is the best>source: my assfuck off loony troon. every single top revenue generator is gatcha garbage and roblox. not even GTA5 comes close to the money child gambling generates
>>7351240851.Generic hot darker skinned woman.2.Non ugly Zarya from Overwatch.3.Cute asian woman, probably the director's OC donut steel.4.The unreleased Highguard samurai.5.Bootleg Optimus/Chimpston.6.The Yoshimitsu from Tekken7.The Blonde guy from Highguard. Slade.8.The white/purple knight from Marathon.9.The green goo with a moustache looks exactly like what you'd see in Deadlock.10.The cyberpunk guy from Cyberpunk7711.Astronaut woman from Fragpunk.12.Smiley XD from either XDefiant or The Finals.It's the same mishmash kitsch as Highguard but more Scifi and with Overwatch/Marathon/Xdefiant/The Finals characters thrown in. It's like they asked some people who don't play video games to design characters. Again, like Highguard, the female characters don't look like they got hit with the ugly shovel on purpose but is that enough to carry a game?The gameplay might be good, who knows?
>>735124085Some of those are hot tho idgi
>>735126779>battle pass-likes
>>735131091I don't know about Concord, but Highguard absolutely did not have good gameplay. The 3v3 with one singular objective just showed a fundamental lack of understanding of how things play out in team PvP shooters, and who the hell wants to be forced to take multiple two minute breaks in the middle of the match to mine and craft? The game loop was exhausting and monotonous. I get that they don't want the first team to break the barrier to win every time, but that's why someone should have spoken up in the planning stages and said that this whole loop was a bad idea. If one guy wound up looking like a complete idiot, oh well.A studio (especially with tens of millions of dollars in funding) should be filled with greater expertise in the genre than a novice player and should have a culture of passion that can sometimes turn into someone getting grilled over the player experience. And I don't mean making sure that some low IQ narcissist who probably won't even play the game feels represented.
>>735125884The designs in these games are so cluttered.
>>735124085>Why focus on pre-made, voice-acted, characters? Because it sells you absolute moron?Concord and Highguard flopped on execution, specifically due to characters looking like shit, not the idea of being a hero-focused game.Ebin food analogy: this is like looking at a pizzeria that sells pizza with rancid vomit on it, and going>wow did they REALLY think we needed another pizzeria? a steakhouse would do OBVIOUSLY much better, I know because I like steak(except a bunch of /pol/tards will also go on a tangent how all pizza is a jewish DEI psyop and whine about italians not being white in the thread.)
>>735131089it did have local multiplayer, i used to play it with my friend way back in the day, and local multiplayer against him was the primary way i played it, i only dabbled in the online multiplayeri don't know how much he played the online multiplayer himself
>>735131238sub-50k, not 50k. and yes even 50k is fucking abysmal for a game that cost 4bill to fucking make, nigger
>>735131495>isnt on (((any revenue list that specifically excludes asian markets)))shalom, kike, dfo has been #1 uncontested and more tha every other game below it combined for the past 20 years unbroken, irregardless of what kikes like you arbitrarily think, money is money and that game makes it in strides where you kikes struggle
>>735125040There are multiple copies of that guy?
Games take years to make and we're now seeing the covid rush of games all greenlit by retarded investors hoping to get in on something that's already way past
>>735125884>>735124085>Bland designs.>Bland gameplay.What's the hook?
>>735126523yeah, that's the other thing. we've had games like concord and highguard dying in less than a month, completely unplayable now. we've had multiversus dying twice and recently anthem joined the ranks of "can't play it no more".how is anyone gonna trust new releases when there's a high chance it will be completely gone within a year?
>>735124283>Nintendo detonates a nuke in IndiaWTF, I love Nintendo now?
>>735124785Attractive character are a prerequisite but not the only requirement. The rest of the roster needs to look interesting.These characters look like shit.
>>735127325it's a game based on the asset store
>>735124085What type of game is it?
>>735124085Why do they keep making these games?
>>735132885Modders can make passable fixes in their spare time over the course of a month. You're telling me that a studio with tens of millions of dollars can't fix the most glaring red flags over the course of a year and a half since Concord sounded the alarm? And that's assuming that they can't get a delay. Maybe this is their fix, but if they're trying to figure out where the absolute bare minimum is for an industry pivot, they're still not putting the customers first and deserve to pay the price. >They can't fix it BECAUSE they're a studio that's operating off of tens of millions of dollars!Sounds like a self-inflicted problem around the pipeline, who they hired, and company culture to me.
>>735133175what do you think
>>735126161I wouldnt ever call it a good video game, but we are looking at 'completely derivative products that are somehow successful despite having no original or redeeming qualities' which is a category where it absolutely takes the cake.
>>735133184Many of these studios are deep, deep in debt to the point where simply making a wildly successful game that profits tens of millions of dollars wont save them. They spent hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars (per small california studio) in 'free covid money' and now the banks are finally coming up asking about what they have actually been doing with that investment and when they can expect to see returns. The devs are now all putting the house up for collateral and betting it all on green because anything less still shutters their studio.
>>735133278it's a different market that doesn't compete with neitherIncidentally wild rift (lol mobile) is pretty fun and not as p2w as its PC originator
>>735125884I am so sick of "regular ass person but with mismatched football gear" designs
>>735124085>>735125884the problem i keep having with these hero shooters is that the characters look like normal randos plucked from the street. they don't look like "characters".i can't believe highguard did it better, outside of john highguard most of the cast at least looked "videogamey".>>735127757concord is just the new tortanic and like tortanic tourists and newfags are consistently chasing a new high like drug addicts. most of the games that get called concord are just bland, the actual Concord managed to be so awfully uninteresting it wrapped around to be fascinating.sadly, as you pointed it out, now there's also a layer of twitter clout chasing.
>>735127161grrr SEX
>>735128629>>735128752wtf kotor is anime?
>>735124085My guess is that they want established characters to sell and market for when it does take off. Or they design classes as 'characters' so they can make up random shit with no strict coherence to a theme. So you maybe have like three bitches with a vague 'Ranger' motif but they just execute the idea in different ways.Gooks do this all the time, like Black Desert might have a killer character creator tool for its time but they've all got canonical appearances, gender-locking, and later got weapons that were transformative to their core gameplay.
>>735124085Gonna have a blast with this one! Can't wait to play as Man! Also fat blob looks like a character and so does space suit girl
>>735126043unlike other companies if valve has good devs they keep them. they don't have to make the line go up for shekelstein so they won't lay off half the team after a game is done
>>735128928It's a studio-threatening flop.You can't just do okay-ish for a mid-budget game when you're Bioware or Bungie.
>>735133184Investors gambling other peoples' money on design by committee crap trying to hit the "next overwatch" jackpot.
>>735125884@grok generate me 16 stereotypes for each race, and make the black guy a monkey
>>735125614that's one way to justify designing characters by buying assets from the unreal marketplace i suppose
>>735124085That looks like shit, it literally can't be real lmao
>>735125614>America makes a Fate/Stay Night knock off>it's a battle royale with 100% realistic designs but harshly bright coloursFunny.
>>735130708>Warframe but with gook asses didn't retain a playerbase longer than it took them to nutYeah no shit no one sane actually likes playing Warframe either
>>735124085But these girls are actually hot.
>>735133604>"Can't wait to play as Man!">flopslop twitteroids have gone so far down their side of the horseshoe that they're unironically, genuinely trying to use the "it's a generic white guy so it's bad" argumentI'd say I am surprised, but at this point I don't think anything will catch me unawares anymore
>>735133682The thing that completes this puzzle is that the "other people" are actually the taxpayers, who's money has been bounced across proxies (NGOs, contractors, etc.) to carry out agendas that the agencies themselves can't legally carry out. Why don't all of these crumbling businesses and ventures ever hurt the finances of BlackRock, even though they definitely amount to over a trillion in damages? In turn, why aren't the people who invest with them PISSED? Why do they have infinite money? Mystery solved.That's why we're in debt.
Do game companies make these flop-style games to get big HUGE investor money, use less than 50% of it, and pocket the rest?Then oh no the game flops what will the lead dev do?>picrel>move onto next investor steal scheme
>>735125739Even Smash Bros puts in some effort to make characters from a dozen different franchises and companies fit in better with each other. Kinda bizarre this game doesn't even try.
>>735124085Who's the lead character designer for this game?
>>735125614Sounds kinda cool.
>>735134071Wouldn't it make more sense if you spent 50% of it on the game, it saw a 300% return from sales, and nobody even thought about where the other 50% went?Egos are driving the current state of the entertainment industry. Money too, but not in the sense of some grand scheme. It's more like they feel entitled to the money in the same way that they entitled to respect.
>>735133482>tfw TOR is old enough that there are people posting now who aren't aware of its existence or why it was so monumental https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9C9OKMyZngconcord's failure wasn't even half as interesting as TOR, I wish I saved all the autistic TOR forum posts from back then
>>735125316Literally looks like the guy that wraps my sub at subway.
>>735133873Hey I also had a blast playing as Man in Concord, he was a great character
>>735124248This. HR people have always been retarded when it comes to hiring and it's only gotten worse especially since these lazy cunts propably use AI now. Its why the job market is crashing
>>735134751Anne Jacqueline Hathaway, you fucking cunt. It’s all your fault!
>>735133604Reminds me of Miller from MGS
This is concord 6 right? Fairgame$ isn't out yet.
>>735124085
>>735135261That's it, thats the entire cast of every single slop shooter.
>>735125884>battlefield content creatorit's all so tiresome
>>735124085OK the girls are cute so why is this repelling me?
>>735126653>wrong, i care about the gameplay,You aren't the gamedevs nor the publisher or anyone else in this industry. As the original Anon you replied to I will clarify now that the people playing these games are not at all in consideration of anyone I was thinking of when making that statement.
>>735135915its so generic it hurts
>>735124085i just don't get why they think anyone would get excited seeing something this generic and boring? make it make sense
>>735124085What's with this white, shiny oversized plastic shit these days? It's one of the worst aesthetic design possible.
>>735135261Someone hire this man. These characters will definitely be the next big thing.
>>735135710sometimes there's a "freak" character (optional)
>>735124283>Nintendo detonates a nuke in Indiahow do we hurry this last step?
>>735124085They're probably trying to be zany and unique, but it ends up looking very same-y. The main thing is that it's NOT concord because the colors are pretty normal and the character designs themselves aren't offensive. The females are quite feminine and cute, and the guys are actually masculine. Concord is a likely rare once in a lifetime overlap of several trends, like queer and intersectional feminism, plus the most ghastly color palette, costumes, clashing with a realistic art style. the game's characters are actually literally repulsive. As in they repulse people from it.
>>735125321Overwatch had the unfortunate "quality" of attracting gamer gurls, right when being a gamer was beginning to be the hip new personality trait.The rise of E-girls coincided with Overwatch for the perfect storm, they couldn't play CoD or CS because it would just out their lack of skills, but they could put on Overwatch and, even if they were hardstuck bronze, they would still get a million simps because they could cosplay Dva while inting.
>>735124785it should be all the women like that except for one who is even more naked and one that's fully covered up
>>735136278or play mercy and let their boyfriends carry them
>>735133184>Why do they keep making these games?Overwatch got big, and they all want part of that cash flow. It takes 6-8 years for games to come out and COVID did actualyl disrupt game development delaying things. So we're getting these Overwatches that were given the greenlight from 2016-2020. Very big charts were shown to investors how much money this would make and how the stock would go up.
>>735136165WW3 actually starts after India elects an AI generated Mario as president and Japan invades to protect Nintendo's intellectual property rights.
Maybe all these concordlike devs that haven't announced yet should just cancel their game and sell the one good design each game has to epic to be fortnite characters
I don't hate the genre They just need to release a game that doesn't look like 20 other asset flips and promise at least 2 years of server uptime
>>735136278I never played much Overwatch, and hated it from day-1. The thing is that the maps are tiny, and it's just rushing and killing or dying in the same tiny hallwas. It just feels claustrophobic. Might be why I was luke-warm on Counter strike too. I looked up some modern SOCOM 2 gameplay and the maps are HUGE. The players are actually coordinating over coms and trying to do things like flank each other, or force people out of hidey-holes with grenades. But no one, and I mean no one really makes games like this anymore and I can see why. Can you imagine a "gurl gamer" trying to navigate this shit?
>>735124085It has to be a money laundering scheme>Yeah, we invested millions in this dogshit game..Huh, where you ask? Well.. uuuh
>>735135261>woman that ends up being the hottest on the roster solely because her face is always coveredParadox my beloved...
>>735124085I'm a dumb motherfucker but i can't understand some suite with ivy league degree goes yes this shit will slap and bring in Billions!.
>>735124085>Time Takersrhymes with LawBreakers
>>735136501The old model is they made a single player game first to hash out the setting and mechanics, and people found that SO COOL they would then play multi-player with each other to continue playing indefinitely. Crazy right? Half Life -> Half Life Online -> Counter Strike ->So now they just want to skip out the middle part and jump right to when they extract all the money from the players. I'm sure they're trying their hearts out. Some of these series are decades old. But investors and execs don't understand this they just see Overwatch and GTA Online make a billion a year minimum. But even Blizz had to build up a base over 30 decades. GTA built a fanbase since the 90s. What the fuck can these random new games even compete? They don't even have a single player game to draw you in and let you test drive the game?
>>735124085this proves that it's not gamers doing a racism against africans causing shit game aesthetic to fail.
>>735124085So are they from different time periods or something? What's the artstyle or concept supposed to be? It just looks like Fortnite.
>>735136770Yeah, and fortnite makes a billion. It's just mindless soulless trend chasing at this point. And they think the ironic/zany is the main appeal so they copy it. btw, hate chimps, hate monkies. I would have a big smile on my face if it was announced the last chimpanzee had died in captivity. Ugly little hideous monsters.
>>735125198This.
>>735136649they genuinely do not care, they don't look at these like a person does going "hmm I'd play that" they look at these solely as product to be sold to cattle and make the line go upthe industry is an incestuous shithole filled with trendchasers ready to hop on the dick of the 'next big thing' and pump out a hundred copies of it while at the same time not giving a rat's ass about actual gameplay or art direction or story or setting or anything beyond the fact that it needs to EXIST so you can tell your shareholders you're making a Fortnite that will get you a bazillion dollars, 99 flops are nothing in the face of one massive success and whether they actually make a profit eventually is a problem for next quarter
What ever happened to aesthetic cohesion? The biggest issue I have with all these hero shooters is that none of the characters feel like they belong in the same video game. It's so fucking weird, it feels like you have 20 different character designers or something.At least with something like Overwatch the designs are different but the style fits well enough together (sometimes too much with the amount of same face that game has but whatever). But with these new hero shooter or extraction or whatever the fuck they are, I just don't understand it.Why don't they at least try to make the characters feel like they all come from the same universe?
>>735136818Dude monkeys are so funny though! Look at that funny monke man lol!!!! He's wearing clothes and using tech, you gotta admit that's pretty funny.
>>735136912I despise these little monsters. They remind me of demons and create a guttural reaction to me. At least Gorillas eat plants and have a noble majesty to them.
>>735136818I don't really care about monkeys one way or another but that's a weirdly specific hangup. Do you live in one of those countries with fat tourist-fed monkeys who steal from people or something?
>>735136894they don't careart direction means giving a rat's ass about the thing you're making, nobody cares, make me a fucking Fortnite, line always go up, infinite growth for shareholders, I am smartest suit man ever
>>735136942Nothing wrong with actual monkeys in their natural habitat though
>>735136894>What ever happened to aesthetic cohesion?Died when developers thought ADHD-ridden teens were their target demographic. "Let's make a grabbag of misfits with nothing in common!" said the stuffed shirts in management. Not deferring to a singular artist.
It's time to meditate.
>>735124085i meanat least the Asian girl looks cuteall the girls look attractive when i look a little closerthere's no way i'd play this but at least it's not as aggressively woke coded as Concord and that ex-Respawn dev game with the goblino poster character
>>735137051wait what, marathon released?i thought it was still in beta or something why dont i see anyone talking about it lol
>>735124085lmfaoooooo those designs....
The only Concord game that succeeded
>>735136968They're violent, ugly, demonic, little monsters. Their faces look like skulls, so in my mind they are the walking undead. revived little demons to terrorize humans. They will rip your face/dick off. They will savagely attack you. Chimps are not warm and cuddly, they're monsters.
I fucking hate cooldown shooters. Can devs fucking learn how to make a shooter that utilizes, ammo, different weapons and keep the amount of characters/classes under 10? Are they just too fucking stupid or something?
>>735137192They're clearly working backwards from profitability, rather than going appealing setting --> appealing gameplay --> profit.btw why didn't Stalker go in on multiplayer sessions? That's something I'd actually be interested in trying out.
>>735137192limited ammo creates too much randomness and unpredictability for the esports autist crowd
>>735137247Stalker would be a mess of spaghetti code.
>>735137165I don't live in a country that has to ever deal with them, so I don't spare them a single thought.
>>735124085>Brown and grey games suck, I wish games had more color! >The monkey paw finger curls...
>>735136968>Here's Mr. Bozo, your new hero. He's so wacky and zany! He's got a hat! He's just like us! ;)This is how it comes off to me. Take the most unhinged ghetto schizo with a knife, drop his IQ to like 20, and now you got a chimp. Just all aggression and violence, with the body to back it up. Literal demon spawn.
>>735137268Worked for Fornite, hiding and shit. Made people pogface.
>>735137192THANK you. Fuck "Hero" shooters. I want "class-based" shooters.
>>735124085because a decade ago when they all started it was exceptionally profitable for the two actual competitors in the genre. What you're seeing is the tail end of the 15 car pileup on the freeway.It's insane that the c-suites whipcracking the devs think the iron will still be hot half a fucking lifetime after they see an opening and don't even attempt to pivot but I think you genuinely have to be a narcissistic retard as a requirement to want to steer something like AAA or AA game dev.
Tell me this isn't a demon. You'll never sell me that these hell-spawn are cute and cuddly. Death to every Chimp.
>>735124085It's investment money. Good money being thrown at dumb ideas. Because like it or not Gen Alpha is on the way and they have no taste. They can only taste Fortnite.
>>735137353but muh ults and flash step attacks
>>735130991Is that boss baby?
>>735124085Explain to me why this doomed-to-failure hero shooter is woke
>>735137383They didn't understand or get that game dev time has been increasing, and these games wouldn't see the light of day for 6-9 years in the future. Also should have thought: "huh. If we're thinking like this, wouldn't every company ALSO think this and you end up with 20 clone games at once that can't possibily survive?"Go to linkedin if you want to lose faith in humanity. It's all the dumbest suits all bragging about how dumb they are and how they chase money. All morons the lot of them.
>>735125884it is actually amazing how hyenas, concord, highguard and this all have ultra random designs, like what the fuck is supposed to be the theme or aesthetic of the game, i think even if i tried to make shit as random as possible myself i could not come out with something so tasteless incomprehensibleand even more amazing is that millions of dollars go into this and in the building of like 200 people working it everyone goes "yeah this looks good, everyone will love this" and no one questions it to look less like shit, i am actually flabbergasted
>>735124085Total AAA death. I am so fucking sick of this.
>>735125359mostly because it's a generic looking UE game with poor effectsdoing good stylized work goes a long way
Omg those characters look so wacky and quirky squeeeee literally me loveeeeeeeeeee <3<3<3Still not buying it though lol
>>735124085why was everyone making zombie games 15 years ago?why was everyone making survival crafters 10 years ago?corporations always try to copy the current thing for a crash grab, but thanks to inflated dev times they are late
Where do these slop character deigns with zero direction come from? AI? A dartboard? RNG?
>>735137591The kinds of people who look at a banana taped to a wall and a woman menstruating on a canvas and think that they're looking at art.
>>735124085it's a kinda Concordian, but the girls actually look pretty or hot, which cannot be said for Concord, so at the very least it is one step aboveGameplay looks like generic live service slop so yeah DOA
>>735137505Funny you mention that, since the woke (feminist-sj-race) aspects are pretty minimal if that. Maybe they're hiding a troon in the back but:>characters are clearly male or female>the females are young, fertile, pretty and smile>there are white males >the males are somewhat masculineThis is a very low threshold, for sure, but Concord went out of its way to ensure that no female was "objectified" so that meant they were all old geezers with blob boddies. Queer theory questions whether men and women can even exist and you can immediately spot its influence in game design. Gender binary in game character designs was something Anita Sarkeesian complained about as well. The issues are semingly more trend chasing, generic, and uninspired.
Why are they always so happy and smiley? Aren't they supposed to be shooting each other with guns in a bid for survival?
>>735124085I mean I played it more than HighguardIts not a bad game but if you're not looking to be a shark in a small pond not much point playing it. The mechanics are neat but the movement isn't that fun.
>>735137627Designs look like they follow what feminists and black activists would say are white coded standards of beauty, and none of the ethnics are too ethnic. ie it has some appeal to broad audiences. Again, maybe they are hiding some troons in the back or roll out troons with season two and talk about how they're troon allies. But so far? nothing from what little I've seen.There's a faction that will probably whine about "woke" for everything, but this game is a nice barometer that uh, no people weren't just developing schizophrenia, a lot of games went hard on "woke" (sjw activist rules and suggestions).
>>735125614>>735124882ok how did this guy die then
>>735137591California, in the United States of America
>>735124248
>>735125884I like the Roman guy I dunno why. But I think everyone is sick of LoL game design, Overwatch is LoL translated into a shooter.
>>735137718They're supposed to be positive characters for teenagers and for merchandise. yes, it means they can't have any kind of an edge. A lot of the Concord designs can be fixed if you just make them psycho. Some fo the designs in One Piece or Twisted Metal were goofy, but they work because the characters have an edge and are dangerous. Actually, this makes me realize that the car combat games were the PS1's equivalent of hero shooters.
>>735137591Me. *holds up spork*
>>735137624Those people would actually make something interesting. The characters in the OP were made by people who think good art = photorealism and that beauty if objective
These games should be called Lawbreakers.
>>735137901It's funny how a lack of "edge" has become a clear and immediate indicator of what is the most soulless, corporate approved slop. Even in the 90's, they were smart enough to realize you have to make something a little bit edgy or you may as well be marketing your game to ages 5 and under.
>>735137591Like most of the industry is centered on realism so most of what's available to you as a developer is for that. You can buy really high quality assets for it and fill out a game world fast if you know what you're doing. Stylization means the studio has to design all the characters itself instead of tweaking realistic character assets clothes etc
>>735124980>giving the game no marketing and letting it out to die.
>>735124085at least the females are attractive
>>735137983>no study of color theory>no thought given towards the human condition (what men and women are attracted to, why certain things evoke feelings of comfort, fear, loneliness, etc.)>no attempt to utilize these things to draw people into an experienceThe side that doesn't understand why a banana taped to a wall isn't art and says that you can't have a female character with big tits running around in a bikini because it's unrealistic has full control, and it's produced absolute trash.
>>735138053The bar for “edge” has risen to a level where it gets blocked by tptb I think, the 90s were dominated by Christian soccer moms so something like Mortal Combat was insanely edgy. But violence alone isn’t enough anymore to be edgy you have to do things that are sacrosanct and the current “world religion” is enforced a lot more violently
The fact that incels to this day are still crying about the banana wall piece proves that it is art.
>>735138053Correct. And it's how you make black characters cool. And think logically: these characters are in some kind of a competition of sorts rights? They are NOT going to be all fucking friends and sing Cumbayah! "I want to win, fuck the rest of these cats" should be the default, not the exception. Twisted metal, really was a hero shooter done right. They all have a goal to win the tournament. Cuz there's an actual tournament. And it's all inspired by fighting games. As in there's an end-goal to all of this, they want something, and have some relatable motivation.
These designs look better than the average Concord like, I bet they saw the feedback on those and changed it, those characters were far uglier before.>>735138039The thing about Lawbreakers is that nobody really cared, and it released on 2017, it made sense to release a hero shooter back then, besides that, there were no talks about the budget or expanded universe or cinematics.It was a shit game but that's all it was, Cliffy just wanted to make a game, meanwhile Sony genuinely believed Concord was their next big IP they spend $400 million on it, along with decent cinematics and a episode on that one Amazon show, yet it sold %1 of what they expected, it was the worst flop in vidya history.Not to mention the whole culture war context, the game is filled with shit only leftists enjoy, and they don't buy videogames.
>>735138216>small tits>ugly clothes>only the black woman shows skinSafe horny. They know that they need to make the women attractive, but Karen's insecurities are still their #1 priority, so they're trying to figure out where the bare minimum is.The checklist is obviously in still full effect.
>>735124085i despise this kind of design. not the manbun or anything even, just the fucking muscle arm. is his superpower punching nazis with his robot bodybuilder arm?
>>735124976The stupid thing is, how do they ever expect to make their money back? These sorts of games regularly cost upwards of hundreds of millions of dollars (for some ungodly reason). Do they honestly expect they're going to steal the GTA or Fortnite crowds with this shit, because that's the only way they'd ever make anything close to that amount back.Are publishers signing off on this shit that fucking stupid that they're basically willing to do the equivalent of going into a casino and dropping half a billion dollars on a single number at the roulette table?
>>735125025cannot unsee.thanks for the confirm..
>>735124438HR departments, and inclusion initiatives. Do you really need more than that? The world used to march to the beat of pale-bodied chain smokers. Now the most productive creatures the world have ever seen are shackled, or pushed out entirely.
Design look like from the Universe of Concord but a Chinese team was tasked with revamping faces of the female characters. Basically suits took the feedback from Concord and said "uhhh gamers want woman pretty" but without any actual understanding of Concords failure Corpus are truly subhumans and don't deserve their wealth.Commies were right. Exprioriate them all, they're parasites only subtracting worth from our existance.
>>735125973I think that's the plot of the first Guilty Gear, except the contestants are the ones trying to get resurrected
>>735138317Man, Twisted Metal 3 really went full fucking retard on those endings.To be fair, "hanging with my homies" could have gone worse
>>735138420I can't believe it's a surprise to anyoneThere's no way you think meritocracy is involved in capitalism
>>735138324The thing is that when it released /v/ was mocking the SHIT out of Lawbreakers for being filled with ugly weird designs no one asked for. It tried to be a game that put a lot of ugly blacks and non-feminine women front and center. We didn't know how much worse it woudl get. Cliffy made twitter posts bragging about the unisex bathrooms in the game, showing how progressive it is. Utterly tame shit by today's standards.
>>735128928they retrofitted the core psychology of the game in the one listed from the bygone years into the modern audience standards.
>>735126048>>735126048Some people ripped the models and used for porn at least
>>735136179Maybe but now the failure of concord has made people wary of all these games that are at all like it
>>735138039People fail to realize that Concord is not the first Concord. The first Concord was pic related. I propose Battleborners.
>>735124979The way those huts are just 'there' makes it look like a cheap movie set.
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>>735138324>yet it sold %1 of what they expectedthey expected 20000 copies?
>>735138530How could that shitstain have been part of Gears of War? I know it wasn't perfect, but god damn it was a product of a time that was quite a bit less stupid and gay. (I am not including Gears 4 onwards)
>>735125884Dogshit Concord tier designs with pretty faces are still dogshit concord tier designs.
>>735138675social media, especially xitter, is literal brain poison
>>735138619I agree. We SHOULD all be sharing bathrooms. Fuck women's safety.
>>735124085Everything has to look real, all of the lighting has to use realistic UE filters, all of the animations have to be mocapped, all of the faces have to be scannedBut hero characters aren't supposed to be real, they're supposed to be stylised artistic impressions which are larger than life. When you fail to understand this and try to force them into reality without any of the artistry which made them work the result looks like a load of redditors cosplayingWe can start calling these cosplay shooters
>>735133726FORNITE IF HE REAL
/v/ was saying lawbreakers was ugly in 2017 in both short and longform posts.
>>735137478unironically yes
>>735125614it would be better if they didnt have the futuristic shit, giving them their period accurate gear would make them less samey and be a better concept for a game, having a pirates vs ninjas concept
>>735125884>battlefield content creatorfucking vile, the rest are essentially chinese knockoffs of "thing from successful game you'll probabilistically like", this game has nothing original or meaningful to say
You will see all the US famous streamers being sponsored Americucks are a special kind
>>735138582That game was much better than concord tho.
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>>735138718Photorealism is a big problem. These things live and die by their characters having memorable designs. And I do NOT mean how much goober sci-fi/fantasy overdesigned shit they are wearing like large pauldrons, or glowy bits. If the characters are gonna look like real people, they had better be the most supermodel looking people. God forbid they look average. Stylized is always king.
>>735138619What was the point of putting this in? Did the game have a shitting mechanic?
>>735137813Man you brown tortanic tourists must be fucking illiterate this is not a Californian game the devs are Korean. You couldn't tell by the random hot ultra realistic asian woman? It's the fucking flag of Korean games ffs
>>735125884>Battlefield Content Creator lmfao
>>735138887>obsessively quickscoping for every shot
>>735130708Notice that unlike concord it is still making money of whales.Meaning that sexy sells so much it can keep a bad game alive.
>>735138763>2 off-center holes>buckethuh????
>>735138896Cliffy just wanted to brag and get some good boy points on twitter. Polygon even ran an article on it. Remember, at the time this was a big thing that lefties and feminists were really pushing for. Then they stopped and no one cared. They tend to pick up something to hyper-focus on, then after a year or two just forget as they move onto something else. They're all driven by social media, namely twitter, and it's like a dog with a new ball. They just drop it and find something else. now it's all Israel-Trump-ICE that is dominating things not bathrooms. oh btw, it was troons. We all needed gender-neutral bathrooms for Troons and to remove enforced gender binary in the world.
>>735125614Don't mind me, superior version of this concept coming through.
A chud Concord sounds like such a funny idea. Every character looks uninspired, male characters are boring while female ones are just pornified Asian women for lonely straight men to masturbate I guess Go chud, flop in the mud.
>>735124604Kek
Because something like 250,000 students are going to graduate every single year with degrees like "game developer" or "creative in visual arts" and they need to feel a purpose in lifeSo theyll get employee into these game studios that are set to crash and burn within months of a game release.But financially, the money's all fake so they can get paid or justify the time spent.Oh, yes this is why the world is evil and sucks by the way, people have entitlement about everything
>>735124085These designs look fine, they're pretty much just Concord designs done right. The issue is that they still feel extremely derivative of other works and that they're still just marking checkboxes to hit every demographic, rather than doing something actually unique
>>735124604GEM
>>735127167>occasionally from Japan*China
>>735125359> Tee hee cute girlsssss Are you porn addict troons ok? Why do you talk so infantilised and weird?
>>735126043LOL.
>>735137983>>735138231Samefag here. I'll explain why a banana taped to a wall isn't art. Art is not about self-expression. Self-expression is what your dog does when it barks at the wind. Is that art? Obviously not. Art is a higher level activity. It's about vibing with the audience. You're thinking about how onlookers will view what you're creating and walking them through an experience.A banana taped to a wall isn't taking people through a journey. It's just shoving something nonsensical in front of you and hoping that you're pretentious enough to find meaning in it. Like the Concords.BTW, it's also true that artists generally create their worst work when they're just plugging in what they think people want to see even when they hate it. This is why it's super important to hire people who have good affinity with your target market. If you're creating an anime project for a male demographic, for example, an anime artist/writer who's a part of that core doesn't need to be forced to do anime, because this is naturally what he wants to create. Doing a realistic military shooter? Maybe he's not your best choice. Hire the guy who likes war movies. And that's why Reddit needs to be fired. Not even Reddit connects with Reddit.
>>735139056yesshiny Concord is still a Concord
>>735138995...I'm fucking tired, anon.
>>735125740Chuds are so brainrotten by culture war they'd eat literal shit if a grifter like Asmongold told them it is chud shit
>>735139002To be truly Concordian, it would need to have Concords god-awful intestines and puke light green aestetic. Combined with this very off-putting hyper-realism design. I can already picture it in my mind. Concord creates a real level of disgust in most people. I bet the devs felt it too, but convinced themselves it wasn't real.
>>735135935doesn't matter, i am the arbiter of all things, and thus i decree that all games with shit gameplay will fail, deal with it
>>735126043Valve good. Steam good. Gabe good.
Thank god deadlock is going to save us
>>735139145>AsmongoldHE NAMED OUR KINGHE EXPOSED US
>>735138039What would compell a person to buy this
>>735139143I completely forgot this was even a thing. It's so nonsensical. I think they tried gender neutral bathrooms, then realized women hate being in close proximity to sketchy rapey browns so they dropped it.
>>735139186>Valve good. Steam good. Gabe good.this
>>735137192I read that as "clowndown" shooterssays a lot really
>>735136894Because they're a shitty no name game developer.Blizzard is like 30 years old which in the game industry is kind of like your company idk, being fucking Shell oil or Ford.
>>735136912I guess you're right hehe, he is kinda funny haha, I'll buy the game!
>>735138957You look angry americuck, what happened ?You didn't eat your breakfast burger ?
>>735139149>convinced themselves it wasn't realWorse, they probably convinced themselves it was good. Not good in the sense that it was actually aesthetically pleasing, but good in the sense that it is virtuous to enjoy the unenjoyable. Just like how Seth Rogan convinced himself that it was okay that his car had been robbed multiple times.
>>735136894They're copying Fortnite, which looks exactly like this because of all the skins and guest characters. If you squint it KINDA looks like that game that makes billions every single year. So please invest in our game which will do the same.
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>>735139149The worst of humanity takes comfort in ugliness. There's no accountability attached to it. You don't have to practice personal hygiene. You don't have to clean your living and work spaces. You can just throw garbage on the ground . You don't have to repair your fence or your broken door. You don't have to put the ice cream back in the freezer. You don't need to refuse the meth. You can get the tattoo. You don't have to control your mannerisms. You can just dribble food all over yourself while aping it in a dumpster.The war on beauty is very deliberate. They want to spread the giant dumpster across society like Nurgle so that they aren't judged to be trash.
>>735124882looks AI generated, why the fuck would a soldier wear that shirt?
>>735139652soldier???
>>735139647I do think they have feelings of inferiority, and really like the idea of not having to even try or compete. They ugly-max specifically to say that they're not trying and are "free" from their hangups because they know they can't compete because they have low self worth. They hate themselves, they love themselve,s it's a delicate situation.
For good news: they have finally realized that cute asians are appealing.
>>735139836nodevs are just Asian, that's the default no westoids were converted or changed
>>735139836Does this game not have a big titty white girl? Because that is what sells.
>>735139964pic not related
>>735136894Cohesion comes from an artistic vision. Designs can't fit a particular vision if you don't have a vision. The problem as always is a lack of art and design competence, because the whole point of modern tech and dev pipelines is to try and make things exclusively with hardware and indians without the input of any artist with any kind of idea for a game
>>735140060It sold really well initially. People just found out that the gameplay got old quick.There are a lot of indicators that millions of people are waiting in the wings for high quality games with hot girls. This, Stellar Blade, Monster Hunter Wilds, etc.
>>735140196that's impossible for western studios unless they fire everyone working there now
>>735139748It's the mental paradox of being both incredibly prideful and narcissistic while having a raging inferiority complex.
>>735139836>battlefield content creatorThe fuck is this supposed to be?>hey chat, today- [gets shot]
>>735140450They have plenty of artists who draw hot girls on their own time.They just need to clean out the they/thems, Karens, and beta simps, close any department or position with a name like "sensitivity readers" and lay off the people in those positions, minimize the power of HR as much as legally possible, and let them get to work.
>>735140653you can't open a studio in the west w/o being swamped by DEI shit from top downC'est impossible~!
>>735137809He died of cringe
Stop mixing quirkiness with Sci-Fi, you're not James Gunn, you'll never be James Gunn.
>>735138990Your shithouse doesn't have backup holes?
>>735125614Isn't that the plot of Quake 3?
>>735124085>NCSoft>3v3 survival shooter>called Time Takers because it steals your time by playing this shitty gamebrilliant
>>735124085It's literally got cute girls tho?
>>735127946Looks like a mix of him and Dynamo
