>you don’t own your digital gam-ACKKKK
YOU WILL OWN NOTHINGYOU WILL NEVER BE HAPPY
>hack into FBI>make them unzip a zip filled with junk datas the size of zettabyte>FBI's HQ immediately sinks into the ground from the weight
>>735125231These are the people who believe the Wright Brothers are frauds by the way.
All those 0s and 1s weigh something
>>735125231good luck with your thesis mate, I'm sure it's gonna go over well.
>>735125414They are, the aeroplane we know was invented by a Brazilian guy
I mean, he isn't totally wrong.
>>735125231People are discovering how a HARD Disk Drive works?The same phenomenon happens to CDs/BRs.
No shit, you're never going to make a thesis, the only school you'll ever graduate is the university of idiots.
What's the heaviest data type?
>>735126384Probably space simulations.
>>735125231Electrical infeterence
>>735125231>but data does not weigh
>>735126146>a tiny amount you would never be able to measure>provides a measurement that could easily be taken with household equipment
>>735126384bbw porn
>>735126462It's a matter of scale, 1 byte would be less than a picogram on a 1TB drive, but the type of harddrive matters too, modern harddrives don't even use magnetic platters always they sometimes have glass and lasers instead which would probably actually weigh nothing.Also does it actually weigh anything or is the extra magnetic energy in the platter just pulling the scale closer?
>>735126384Dragonforce .flacs
>>735126146>would never be able to measure>14gNigga a drug dealer's $10 chinese kitchen scale could measure that within a hundredth of a decimal point.
>electrons have massALERT THE PRESSES
>>735126758electrons arent real, retard
>>735126792You can't trust electrons, they make up everything.
>>735126645Data does have weight, the calculated mass of all digital data on the planet is less than 2kg though. Not only that but the act of deleting data releases heat energy and reduces local entropy.
>>735126146How does a closed device add weight to itself?
>>735126820Hows it closed if you plug it in and dump electrons into it?
>>735125372Genius.
>>735126146>Something you'll never be able to measure>10-14 gramsBruh. I have a scale at home that will measure down to the hundredth of a gram.
What if there's no type 2 civilizations in space because the second they create ai and harbour any power from the sun they generate so much ai slop that it collapses the local gravity into a black hole.
>>735125231The idea that digitally purchased video games exist as mass you own on your hard drive could actually have massive legal consequences.
>>735126813
>>735125231I don ge eht...
how does flipping a bit on a disc make it weight more?
>>735126813Storage media has weight. Data does not. Data doesn't exist, its only relative to human perception.I bet you retards think a switching transistor is actually creating something more than heat waste.
have you faggots never opened a hard drive before?
If you guys are so smart explain thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83q5dn6uYL4
>>735126462>>735126717>>735126975That's 10-14 not 10-14 you retards
>a hard drive isn't a valid "physical storage" device>whatever is the corporate accepted disc format is thoughconsolefags really think the magic box that they put the magic object in just plays the games and that's it
>>735127237>That's 10-14 not 10-14 you retards
>>735127171Explain OP then, smartypantsOh wait...you can't...lmao
>>735127237Yeah? Tell me more.
>>735127171Data does have weight, electrons have mass even if it's extremely small. The sum total of all data has objective weight, there are already physics experiments that proved this. Also the release of heat energy is measurable and the reduction of entropy can be reasoned that a bunch of 0s in a row has less entropy than the mix of 1 and 0 that we use to represent data. You are a retarded clown.
>>735127237>>735127257>>735127312>can't superscript on this fucking sitebrb killing myself, its 10 to the negative 14th power, that screenshot is ass
>>735127237>it's -4 git's literally impossible. for something to have negative weight you total idiot
>>735127342The absolute pinnacle of midwittery. Data does not exist. Storage media, you retard, is the only thing that has matter here. Change the configuration of the storage media can induce changes in its mass, that is not data having weight. Data. Does. Not. Exist.Graduate your first year CS class before posting again, Rakesh.
>>735126384pictures of your mom. any format
>>735127369What about hot air balloons.
>>735125414The Wright Brothers are frauds.
>>735125231They can't unpirate my games
>>735127416Data does exist and does add weight to storage, this isn't a debate or even outlandish theory, it's a fact of physics. And you aren't even a midwife, you're a smooth brained retard.
*flips your bit from 1 to 0*
>>735127594If I take paint and put it on a canvas does the resulting picture have more mass than the virgin canvas and unused paint did prior? No. You dumb faggot. I can paint a tree, a person, anything that you would recognize, and this "information" does not add anything to the universe, the mass remains the same.The physical process of the read head switching a bit on a hard drive platter can alter the platter itself, but what is recorded to it is meaningless. Filling a hard drive with pure 1s is more meaningful than a hard drive full of movies encoded as both 1s and 0s. Data. Does. Not. Exist. This isn't a debate, Rakesh, its a foundational principle of the universe.
>>735126685
>>735128235
>>735125779Off by orders of magnitude tho, like a true retard
>>735127694Hawking was so gay for ruining black holes
>>735127761this has to be bait
>>735126384Terraria saves
>>735125231literally just magnets right? put it on a fucking manual scale like the one you have to balance manually with weights
>>735128667what did he do
>>735128697visited epsteins island
Hard drives don't save electrons, they change orientation of small magnets. SSDs trap electrons in NAND gate switches though.
>>735125231Deleting files doesn't get rid of the data, it just deletes the pointers to that data
>>735128731do we know the ratio of black to white holes there
>>735128784well in the recent files dump they mention hunting niggers fairly candidly so it's hard to say
>>735127416>Data does not exist.Holy fuck, stopped reading there.Literally starting laughing out loud.
>>735128927Try harder, RakeshInformation relative to human perception is meaningless to the rest of physical existence. It doesn't have weight just because there is an idea attached to it. I bet you're a drop out
>>735128731They all did.
>>735128823>Ayyleid styled hunts through the forests with flaming targetsMakes you wonder if flesh gardens have been a thing as well.
>>735129039Good morning sir
>>735129039>everyone that I am smarter than is brown
>>735126685You want .mp3s because compression makes them more dense.
>>735127761i get what you're trying to say, but you are an absolutely retarded, nigger brained gorilla.
>>735125231>download a gif of op's mom>hard drive turns into a black hole
>>735126384Ai furry porn
>>735130717What he says is that data is designed, labeled as such by us but the matter we use to transmit said data is indistinguishable from any other therefore data only exists as an intangible human concept.
>>735130717>too stupid to make an argument All of our computers are on, drawing power, displaying information. How much weight are they adding to the universe with all the data those switching transistors create? Thats right, none. You fucking monkey idiot. Abstracts are not real quantities.
>>735125231Didn't Vsauce do a video on this topic 15 years ago?
>>735126384proofs of the yolocaust being fake
yeah but what weights more, a hard drive filled with pictures of steel, or a hard drive filled with pictures of feathers?
>>735131061depends on the color of feathers. black feathers is empty data but colored would be more data so the feathers would probably be heavier data since the steel would be pretty uniform grey
>>735126384my backlog .txt
>>735126717I measure my cat's food every meal, and have gram precision.
>>735131631You'll be spared for the time being.
>>735131776He's old and on prescription kidney food. :(
>>735131809ate too many mices, lay off the rodents you fatso
>>735127346>10^-14(^_-)
>>735125231>t. A. Dońda, professor of Svarnetics
>>735125231another thread, another twitterg
>>735126384README.txt
>>735125414next time fly over the Atlantic, faggot
>>735127416
>>735127416Yeah, this dude is right. A drive full of 0s and a drive full of 1s will weigh differently, neither are data.
did YOU write your thesis about vidya?I did.
>>735133701>Degree is pretty open all things considered so everyone does a range of different things for projects>I get insanely good grades doing mine about vidya because I just riff on about "niche" games no sane normie has heard of like Space Funeral>This goes on throughout my degree. Always try to branch out to other things but keep getting pulled back to vidya because lecturers see my potential>Final thesis project coming up, people get to decide what their project is and work under a third party project lead>Lecturers knew I didn't want to graduate as the game guy but couldn't decide on a project to give me so gave me 5 bite sized ones>Thesis project is split between 2 segments, a planning segment and a final delivery. Each takes 3 months and ends with a presentation at the end of the 3rd month>Get cracking on my projects. 2 people organizing their ends of the projects pulled out instantly, 2 were so early in the idea process they didn't actually have anything for me to do, and 1 gave me a project that I completed in 2 hours because it was easy>Tell lecturers, they don't care>Planning segment presentation comes up and I get a fat 0% because the lecturers "felt like I didn't know what I was supposed to be doing">Brings me after class to a room and says they're gonna make up some game project to give me instead, I say whatever>Everyone is getting their final deliveries ready, meanwhile I'm basically back at square 1. Despite that, I work hard every single day, pumping in hours to get it all done>Hand in final delivery and presentation. Lecturers love it and give me top marks>Pulls me aside and says by the way, because you got 0% on the planning you'll need to redo it and also the highest grade you can get from that is 50% which you'll need to pass>Spend last month of my degree life working harder than ever to get it done. Basically did the same project twice. Lecturers like it. I pass and graduate>Still don't have a job.Never be the game guy anon
1109 - 109 = 100?
>>735125231games confirmed for having a SOVL
>>735125631you mean the guy who didn't fly until a decade after the Wrights? I've heard of this schizo theory before, and every single time the earliest date for his flight you Hues can find is years after 1907. you'd unironically have a better shot of arguing the case for that one New Zealander who anecdotally got aloft in 1906.
>>735129247>he forgot about rotational velocidensityLossy files degrade over time, making the drive lighter in the process. Those .mp3s might be more dense now but after a few years they'll have lost their density advantage compared to .flacs.
>>735134575So you replace them with newer .mp3s. I suggest keeping a single copy of .flak around to keep making denser copies from
>>735125231thermodynamics canceled lol
>>735134352100 + ai = infinity
>>735134771wtf my knee just hit the floor?
>>735125231Wtf no I didn't know about this
>>735127237>>735127257
>>735134352
>>735125231BigDecimal
>>735127761Data does exist, but not as matter or energy. It exists as physically instantiated structure, patterns in matter that can influence outcomes. Is layered on top by interpreters, but the underlying information is still objectively there.
let's be real: data is FUCKING MAGIC
>>735127342You realize data isn’t stored on HDD platters in the form of extra electrons floating around, right? HDD platters encode data via patterns of magnetic particles. One arrangement of dust does not weigh more or less than another arrangement of dust. There is exactly as much “information mass” in the string 00000000 as 01100110.
>>735127342>>735127416Whether or not data has weight depends on the media it is stored. Static data storage like a mechanical switchboard objectively does not possess mass as it's expressed entirely through flipping components around, while something like a water-based storage system obviously does give mass to its data as it intakes liquid to represent bits.Hard drives are the latter where they store data through an additive process, so the electrons that *represent* the data have weight, but said data can theoretically be expressed using a non-additive system and whatever was used to read the media would come up with the same result.
>>735136301>One arrangement of dust does not weigh more or less than another arrangement of dust*makes one arrangement move at the speed of light*gg
>>735136372>Static data storage like a mechanical switchboardBut that's how a hard drive works. the "switches" are tiny magnetic particles that have their polarity flipped one way or another by the write head to encode one bit or the other.
>>735136301If we're talking about magnetic storage medium then sure.For SSD, on the other hand, data does have weight.
>>735136490Isn't the OP talking about the former? He says HDD not SSD.
>>735127761You're a special kind of retard, huh?
>>735136128Its literally a string of 1 and 0 but technology lets them be really tiny
>>735128686I think he was trying to make >>735130949 argument, which it absolutely makes sense, but in it's journey to explain his reasoning he's being overtly pedantic and annoying.I mean, sure, data is a human concept.It doesn't change the fact that those electrons do have mass, wether they can be interpreted as data or not.
>>735126792I am real nigger
>>735126792the electron*there is only one.
>>735125231>tweeter learns how technology works
>>735125414Catapult boys are getting uppity again
>>735126384FLAC, obviously. That's why it's immune to the effects of rotational velocidensity.
>>735127237>gets shrekt by sloppy 10+ year old PHP shitcode designed to pessimize the fuck out of freeform utf8.kek.I know what you mean though. Google fucked up poorly representing that value as well.
>>735140761I hate this shit, 43mb files for a 0.5% improvement
>>735127416jrpg final boss sounding ass
>>735138148Heh, I got that.
>>735140886FLAC has no audible improvement whatsoever over a good quality lossy encode. By design lossy encodes discard inaudible information. FLAC is for archival purposes, keeping lossless master copies of audio for later use (in case it were to be modified, re-encoded, etc), not for consumers. I fucking hate audiophiles so much for memeing it into a listening format.
>>735138148the spaghetti worldline
>>735134474being shot into the air by a catapult doesn't count, next time try flying under your own power.
Steam queens can’t even use a scale rightExplains a lot
>>735127416>The absolute pinnacle of midwittery. Data does not exist.
>>735126685heh
>>735126852but data is not stored as "electrons"
>need to change batteries out of controller>forgot which ones were the old ones>can tell me the weight as the new ones are heavieri know i can tell the difference
>>735141594what's wrong with FLAC as a listening format? it's just a zipped wave for all intents and purposes
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>>735141798Pictured: not flying
