Game sold decently. It is not just going to disappear. Maybe it won't last forever, but who cares? I have 20 hours into it already. That's 2 bucks an hour. Money well spent.The internet seems so focused on disliking things that it makes me wonder if anyone actually likes anything. I, personally, don't tend to dwell on things I dislike.
Same with me. Some do, however!
>coming to a mongolian beef frying forum for validation
I've played it and have come to the conclusion that I don't like it (independently from the fact that's it's almost certainly a commercial failure).I'm just sad that creative vision was wasted on a fucking extraction shooter.
>>735127396Does it justify Sony buying bungie for $3.5 billion though?
>>735127396I think people forget the upcoming holiday bump. With its garish colors, Marathon is a perfect match for Easter and Bungie surly has some timed events planned (egg hunts, bunny shooting).
>>73512739620 hours in a multiplayer live service game is doomed flop tier
>Game sold decentlyHow many times do I have to tell you I have no financial vestment in this or its competitors.
>>735127396no it didn'tyes it willnot much longerno you don'tno it wouldn't bekill yourself
>>735127739Holy seethe lol
>>735127739>rent?free>buck?broken>op's point?proven
>>735127789sorry troonathon lost :)
>>735127843okay okay don't shoot up any hockey games over it MegaMa'am XY
>>735127894>implying im some tranny freakyou should look in a mirror dudetime to shave some of that stubble and dilate more
>>735127846>>735127894The seethe continues
>>735127396HOLY DAMAGE CONTROL!see you at 30k next week, rajesh.
>>735127396Don't care, fuck Bungie. I'll never touch their products after the destruction of Destiny 2. Literally the Daisy's destruction of video games.
i am getting bootyblasted on outpost
>>735127981Yeah of course you're someone who knows what that is.
>>735127396> "I am having a blast"
>>735127981found the seething destiny 2 tranny
>>735128023>OP doesn't say blast>you post it anywayAbsolutely mindbroken by the word "blast" of all things
>>735127739You faggots went from, in order:>It will be dead on arrival! Concord 3!>It will be dead after the first week!>It won't last three months!>Okay, it won't last six months!No matter how many times you move the goalpost your doomposting will just keep failing. Fuck off and go play video games, faggot.
>>735127680Most live service games don't have a $40 buy-in
>It sold decentlySony doesn't want decentlyEnjoy your layoffs nigger!
>>735127996bring a shotgun and stay indoors
>>735128178if they have to pare down a studio from a thousand employees it's not so bad
>>735128042
>>735127396>Game sold decently. It is not just going to disappear.I'm sure that's exactly what the Sony shareholder will be wanting to hear.How much money did they spend buying Bungle, again?
>>735128205Hard when the contract has me doing laps across the map
>>735128393>>735127636What do you care? Do you own stock in Sony?
>>735128493Personally I just think it is funny.
>>735128406know your routes and use smoke/invisluckily assassin has both
>>735128592Well it's a good thing Sony doesn't give a shit about what you think is funny.
>>735128639They do give a shit about money, and Marathon isn't making enough.Which is funny!
>>735128613I prefer vandal
>>735127396Even flopguard had a higher peak
>>735129432And yet, Highguard has already shut down and Marathon hasn't. Almost as if the numbers are fine and Highguard only shut down because its main backer panicked and abandoned it. Marathon is funded by people with an actual backbone.
>>73512943253k 24hrs peak, it's over blastbruhs
>>735127636I don't really care as long as the servers keep running and the game gets updates.
>>735129586It's been less than 2 weeks, give it time
>>735127928>>735127929womp womp you lost troon
>>735128639Unfortunately the shareholders will not think it is funny.
>>735127396>It is not just going to disappear.who's gonna tell him.
>>735132329You realize it's still here, right?
>>735132350for now.
>>735132383I will bet you a thousand dollars that the AI service that was used to make that garbage you just posted will run out of money before Marathon does.
>>7351296642 more weeks
>>735127396Wow 20 hours, so you've completed 3 fetch quests in 2 successful extractions and shot 5 people for the 30 of them that have violated your asshole while you looked into a storage locker for garbage?
>>735132441kinda silly, same energy as picrel.
>>735132467Have you even played the game? The quests are very short
>>735132441>I will bet you a thousand dollars that the AI service that was used to make that garbage you just posted will run out of money before Marathon does
>>735132609No sorry I don't play grooming games enjoy your transtrender propaganda
>>735127396There's the expected drop off, but Marathon is maintaining steady numbers.
I need to stop being a pussy and go to Pinwheel for some loot, what's the strategy?>grab my best vault loadout and my poop sock neet 100 hour friend and try to do a proper run>spam solo Rook and put my cock in a cheese grater until I luck out a good gun
>>735132681Oh so you just made some shit up to pretend you had played the game and then backpedaled when you were called out, bravo. This is why you have failed to make the game flop, you are an incompetent buffoon.
>>735132681Groomathon is probably going down as the last big attempt at pushing this sick shit on kids, thank god.
>>735132681What the fuck are you talking about schizo
Hogwarts Legacy is more fun than this shit. Sad that your thread spam isn't increasing the numbers for Maratroon though. Skill issues I guess.
>>735132759You have no idea the tsunami of backlash you are going to unleash by being so obnoxious about this shit that you bring it up in places where it is completely irrelevant. You've become exactly what you claim to be against. So I'm not going to tell you to shut the fuck up, quite the contrary. Please keep going with it. You're only digging yourself deeper.
>>735132730Europeans don't give a fuck about Marathon lmao
>>735132730problem is it's just not an impressive number
>>735132441>run out of money before Marathon does.Marathon started off in a negative, it has no money to run out of, it has to break even first you fucking idiot.
>>735132871>you where just like me.>people hated it and reacted.>this'll come back to haunt you.Kind of a self-own.
>>735132979Really? It's consistently been in top 60 most played games on Steam. ALL of Steam. If that's not impressive, what is?
>>735129432Seeing /v/ dunk on Marathon by comparing it to Arc Raiders is funny considering Arc Raiders is the one that literally has a rainbow flag in its logo LMAO
>>735133062For a game with atleast 250 million dollar budget? No. For an indie game? Yes.
>>735127396
The reason I know didnt flop was because people here had to keep repeating it over and over again as opposed to highguard or concord where everyone naturally understood what it was and didnt have to argue about playercountsThe reason I know it’s not a success is because no one has announced any milestones meanwhile RE9 and Pokemon Animal Crossing announced numbersYou guys were not ready for a “mid/eh/alright” performance
>>735132740Go solo and go ham. Memorize code locations, if you're feeling lucky try and get 2 master codes + one supply code for the pinnacle room. Otherwise either run around looking for the conveyance request or speedrun 2 access codes. Hint: Most buildings (dorms, flight control, processing, etc) have at least 2 access codes and up to 2 supply codes.Watch out for shotguns.
>>735127739sorry too busy having a BLAST in Sony's hit new game Marathon™
>>735133119How do you even know what the budget is? I feel like you're just pulling that out of your ass to downplay Bungie's success
>>735127508It's weird how aggressive they are when we didn't do anything.
>>735133145I kinda was ready, nobody had even heard of the old Marathon games from the 90s until this game got announced. It certainly wasn't a recognizable name like Halo. And yet they still made three Marathon games.
>encounter a guy with a blue shield indoors>start shooting at him with my burst rifle>don't even take his shield off before he instantly downs me with two heavy knife attackswhy would they make the knife that strong holy fuck
>>735133198Disprove me right now with a different number then.
>>735133273Melee is strong i think they're gonna nerf it
>>735127396Nah yesterday on prime time EU there was like 1 post an hour in the lfg channel and queue times were awful. Also getting matched with free loadouts when I'm full purple is just bullshit
>>735133286One dollar
>>735127396it's a huge flop you retarded turd/v/ won
>>735133145I blame social media for this. Everything has to be either the biggest thing ever top of pop culture discussed everywhere online, or a catastrophic failure that becomes a spectacle. The idea that a videogame exists for its own audience in its corner and is neither is antithetical to this, so they have to do their hardest to spin a nice little discourse cycle out of everything, keeps the youtube and xitter money flowing. It isn't about videogames, it's about the discourse.I can tell this shit originates from social media addicts because no "concerned Steam charts poster" ever talked about Europa Universalis 5, which after a few months has fallen below its 13 year old ancestor, because Paradox cut corners for DLC and released it unfinished and hinged it all on the 1.1 update. And now they're scrambling to fundamentally change core gameplay design because their "general audience" preferred board game abstraction over simulation.
>>735133327Devil's Proof
>>735133145it is a flop you retard
>>735133223Ironic post to reply to considering if you "didn't do anything" you wouldn't have needed to post at all. Your actions would have stood on their own. But you too are looking for validation. That's why you say "we" instead of "I", you want to feel like you're part of a movement and not acting alone.Well congratulations, you got some attention. But since I just singlehandedly dismantled your entire worldview it's probably not the kind of attention you wanted.
>>735133346it is a flop you retard cope harder
>>735133378pulverized that freak
>>735133198Number of employees worked on the game (300) multiplied by the average annual salary for developers in Seattle (~$150,000) multiplied once more by how many years it took to develop the game (5-7) = $225,000,000-$315,000,000 budget
>>735133347You were going to reply with that no matter what was said huh? The burden of proof is on you to provide evidence of a 250 million dollar budget. "Probably" is not going to cut it. The game is not going to shut down if you have no evicence.
Why did they steal Mirror's Edge artstyle? Why didn't they make it a singleplayer experience?
>>735133346Nice bait, but sadly I could not be fucked to read all that, do have a pleasant day tho.
>>735133328>>735133401>IT'S A FLOP! IT'S A FLOP! PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT IT IT'S A FLOP! WHY IS EVERYONE IGNORING ME AAAAAAAARGH
It is a massive flop when they release a video like this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9N0IMV8Qv8Marathon Reviews | Official Accolades TrailerSo cope harder you fucking retards. It's literally Highguard's lightning in a bottle shit.
>>735133435See >>735133417
>>735133476Yeah I'm not reading all that.
>>735133459yes it's a flop you retarded turd
>>735133476Yeah I'm reading all that.
>>735133469Lmao now that video is full on cope.
>>735133469>It is a massive flop when they release a video like this...an accolades trailer?Like Expedition 33?Or Elden Ring?Or Dead Cells?Or Arc Raiders?Or Silent Hill F?And those are just from the top of my head, it's standard marketing fare.
>>735127739based
>>735133469https://youtu.be/Ghw6d8OkphwREDEEM BIG FLOP SAAR
>Please wait a month with the reviews.>OH NO game is a huge flop!>Quick release the shill reviews!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q39hl9hngRI
It's a flop cause I say so OK!
>>735133576>>735133537they begged people to delay reviews you retarded shills
>>735133437this garbage has nothing on ME
>>735133626I thought journo reviews didn't matter and the actual players and streamers are actually honest?
They have to be mega desperate when they have Shroud and Peanut in the video. Literal paid shills.LMAOThis is a flop of massive proportions.
>>735133437It's more like WipeOut if it had an affair with SOMA
>>735133653Yeah, Marathon wishes it looked this good. Instead it just looks like if they dipped cp_orange in diarrhea and vegan branding.
>>735133301i've started going in with free loadouts because i just get annihilated by an MLG team no matter what i bring in with me so why bother
>>735133346To be fair a game like EU5 doesn't reply on online matchmaking or servers like Marathon does so it actually could bounce back from a rough launch and continue to make money years down the line in sales. I get why chartposters would find Marathon a more viable target than something like that. But I agree with the overall sentiment that it's not organic and comes from social media hysteria, because there absolutely are other online games that don't get nearly this much attention from social media despite similar performance.
>>735133663>and the actual players and streamers are actually honestand they say it's shit
>>735133580>seething this hard at a game getting good reviews
>Ninja Quit Marathon After Just One Hourhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwoEbIRI9GsWhen it's so bad your biggest shill quits after 1 hour.
What's the point of delaying reviews anywayIt isn't like your average review site would grind the levels + gear + key + a premade trio to play Cryo Archives
>>735133756why did you beg to delay reviews then you retarded turd?
>>735127396No, I regret buying this game and I want my 40$ back. Too bad I'm over the refund window, fuck. I wish I listened to /v/. And I'm not gonna pretend I like it, fuck you shills who said it was good genuinely fuck you. I could've bought something better with the 40 bucks I spent on this crap. Genuinely fuck you and I hope your company burns to the ground and gets assfucked by Sony for creating this slop.
>>735133740Very positive on Steam thougheverbeitedlyalbeitough
>>735133768>What's the point of delaying reviews anywaybecause it was released unfinished with no content. that will be $40.>>735133814you are a retard
>>735133653>>735133720>people are now fondly reminiscing about Catalyst which was shit on in 2016 for being inferior to the original METhis is such a typical gaming cycle, in ten years the exact same people will be talking about what an overlooked gem Marathon was and how all the new games in 2036 suck, they don't make good games like they used to back in the good old days of 2026.
>>735133437because it isn't 2005
>>735133814you exposed yourself retarded shill for never using steam
>>735133831>noo reviews from people that play the game don't countgo leave a 0 on Metacritic and take a shower faggot
>>735133720>Marathon wishes it looked this good
>>735133792Cryo Archives wasn't out yet.If you actually played the game instead of shitposting on /v/ all day you'd know that Cryo Archives is out now. And now the reviews are out. But you didn't know that so you think it's a sinister scheme.
>>735133878cope you retardmake more lightning in a bottle videos retard
>>735133796Why didn't you just listen to the other people
>>735133860it is inferior to the original, it's still beautiful
>>735133346Nah, it's people like you who seem incapable of understanding that 250 million american funbucks for a game with 14k average players is considered a flop. For comparison Destiny 2 pulled in 60-100k average in 2019-2024Sure if we look at Marathon playerbase with other extraction shooters then its doing well. Sure having 15k average users is enough to keep a game runningBut thats ignoring the fact that Sony bought Bungie for 3.6 billion and the dev cost for Marathon was 250 mil. Pretending that these facts dont exist makes you a retard
>>735133860Marathon's servers are gonna go offline in about a year
>>735133831>because it was released unfinished with no content.why do people lie on the internet? i've been playing fairly consistently since it released and only recently got access to Outpost, the last area that the game launched with, and now the endgame area is releasing soon. they planned it purposefully to space out the content and not have streamers who play 8hrs a day run though the entire game and spoil the surprise for everyone else.
>>735133908Proving my point, thanks sister.
>Cryo Archives wasn't out yet.Why does it matter when people can't even access it?https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/03/16/you-probably-dont-meet-the--marathon-cryo-archive-access-requirements/
>>735133814A shill isa person who acts as an enthusiastic, seemingly independent customer to trick others into buying a product, investing, or participating in a scheme, while secretly working for the seller. They are used to create fake credibility or demand, common in scams, auctions, and online reviews. Usage Examples: Online/Social Media: "That influencer is just a shill for a scam crypto project". Auctions/Gambling: "The casino used shills to make the gambling table look popular". General Sales: "He's just shilling for a shady company, pretending he's a satisfied customer". Politics: "Critics accused the pundit of being a shill for the political party". Synonyms & Related Terms: Plant: Someone secretly placed in an audience to encourage participation. Stooge: Someone used to carry out a trick or routine. Decoy: A person used to lure others into a trap. Accomplice/Associate: Someone who helps the main operator. Mouthpiece: One who speaks for another, often in a biased way. Shills are generally considered unethical, as they use deceit to manipulate public opinion or interest.
>>735133954Destiny only has 8k players right now and it's still around. So what the fuck makes you think they'd shut down marathon which has 5 times that?
I will now play your game.
>>735133814>Very positive on Steamvery positive on steam pretty much means it's shit you retard
>>735134060You like Paul Tassi articles huh? Here's a good one for you.https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/03/15/why-are-people-hating-marathon-as-a-sport/
>>735134124destiny launched to huge numbers and kept selling full price expansions for yearsit doesn't matter that player numbers are dropping now they made the money and just need to keep the lights on for the few remaining whales.
>>735134163So what you're saying is when Marathon gets an expansion you'll consider it a success?
>>735134124Look at the peaks of Destiny and the peaks of Marathon, sis. Hope this helps~
>>735134218Europeans don't give a fuck about this slop
>>735133919>Cryo Archives is out now.strange how I can't find any info about it. are you lying to me shill?
>>735134292Play the game retard
>>735134157>>735134310where are those cryo archives shill?https://steamdb.info/app/3065800/charts/
>>735127396Right but you buying the game once and not spending money on mtx is the problem
Why is it going down..? Did the gamers finish the main quest ad got bored?
>>735134310where are those cryo archives shill?https://steamdb.info/app/3065800/patchnotes/>Play the gameyou are exposing yourself shill
>>735133145Mid in this day and age eventually turns into a flop when it comes to live service games
>>735134328You lost.
>>735134310shill, why can't I find any info on cryo being released?>>735134461you lost you retarded turd. you exposed yourselves you retarded turd./v/ WON
>>735134461>>735134310you fucked up you retarded turd. steam forums say cryo releases tomorrow.
>>735134491You are not /v/. You are one person, melting down spamming posts on cooldown because you lost.
>>735134410Why is it going down..? Did the gamers finish the main quest ad got bored?
>>735134538you lost you retarded turd
>>735134187When it pulls Destiny / Destiny 2 numbersWhich it wont, they spent 250 million on a nieche gerne and are now paying the price for it.Again, Bungie cost 3.6 billion for Sony, Marathon cost 250 mil, 14k average players are nowhere near enough for this to be considered a success>but Destiny has shit umbes now.If we take the average players for Destiny over the years and the same for Marathon currently then Maraton would need to chug along for 10 years to match how much time (money in the microtransaction landscape) players spent in 1 year on Destiny 2.50 years of keeping Marathon up to even start competing with Destiny 2, its a floo and Sony will force it f2p with a skeleton crew soon, cope harder
>>735134574cope you retarded turdyou lost
>>735134579You are weak. You have no power. All you can do is cry impotently. It was all you. And YOU lost.
>>735134574Yeah, it's a single player game with dead servers.. but wait.. Marathon is a multiplayer game first and foremost and came out in this month? And ME Catalyst is like 10 years old??? Whaaat? That's insane!!!
>>735127396>remove the Broken Wing entrance to Pinwheel>now Outpost is just a shitshow of Rooks doing naked suicide runs for the RNG keys and getting intl retard slapfights with their shit guns well done bungalow
>>735134616you lost you retarded turd/v/ won by doing nothing
>retarded shill tells people to play the game>turns out retarded shill doesn't play the game
>>735134339Games shouldn't rely on mtx to succeed. That single purchase should be enough to keep the game afloat for years. If they're going to put in mtx at all, it should be optional for dedicated players to show their support, not something that decides the fate of the game.
>>735134616Play the game retard
It's such a massive flop they have to use quotes from Shroud and Peanut literal paid shills.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9N0IMV8Qv8
>>735134695That's not how live service games work.
Shill got BTFO really badly.
Thread immediately dead once the shill leaves.Pretty obvious it was being botted.
>why do you want this GaaS to fail?
>schizo talking to himselfGood grief.
>>735133346i blame bad games for this, they wouldn't be doing this if they had a game to play. it's your fault btw.
>>735134695Mtx is a perfectly viable business model and you can easily develop around the idea especially for multiplayer games that are meant to stick around for years, the key factor (that Marathon and most concord-likes) lack is a solid playerbase.You can dislike microtransactions as much as you want, but saying that League is not earning Riot money or that it would have earned as much if it was a normal release is pants on head tier stupidity
>>735135082Play the game retard
>>735135173>Mtx is a perfectly viable business modelAHAHAHAHAHA
Why aren't euros playing did fag simulator 69 come out?
>>735135082where is cryo archives retard?
>>735127396kek
>>735127396Why the fuck are you allowed to carry two loaded shotguns? That's some prime bullshit. Sidearm slot should be pistol only, maybe one of the small SMGs.
>>735135248League, Apex, Overwatch, Dota, TF2, Valorant, Destiny 2, litterally any sportsball or gacha gameI could go on, but you are clearly too stupid to see the differnece between what is a non viable business model vs shit product that nobody would play even if it was free, cope harder, Riot wont make any less money for it.
>>735135425you literally listed the reasons why MTX isn't viable you retard
>I ENJOY half baked, unfinished crap, actuallyim very proud of you anon
>>735135425>League, Apex, Overwatch, Dota, TF2, Valorant, Destiny 2these are literally the reasons why mtx isn't viable
>>735135474>list games that are extremely profitable while using microtransactions as their source of revenue>no those dont countOk tard, whatever helps you sleep at night
>>735127396Who gives a shit? check this 5!
>>735135585>no those dont countexactly retard, they are the very rare exceptions
>>735133401I don’t think you know how to articulate a game’s performance other than hyperbolic success or failure.You could actually be agreeing with me, but because you only know how to say “flop”, I don’t actually understand you. Try responding using captcha symbols, that’s a pretty universal system that I see way too fucking often
>>735135630U fail
>>735135734didn't read it's a massive flop cope hard
>>735133653This is neat, but I like Marathon's art direction more.
>>735135758Which Lego game is this?
>>735127396Instead of typing out all that cope you could have been having a blast in Floppathon or done your daily dilation.What gives?
Cute girls are spending dozens of hours making hand-made cosplays of the girls and you're doomposting?
>>735135758I want snow maps, they'd look greatPlease do the needful bungie
>>735127396>I have 20 hours into it already. That's 2 bucks an hour.This sort of mentality is what's ruining videogames nowadays, btw
>>735133626Probably because of the Cryo Vault ARG.
>>735127619Seriously, the marathon IP had so much potential, reviving it just to fucking bury it with this absolute disgrace of an extraction shooter was the worst possible decision. Not that it matters, not like any of the fucking zoomers here ever played the original Marathon games.
>Concord 3! Dead on arrival>U-uh t-two more weeks! it'll be dead soon!>THERE IS NO WAY IT'LL SURVIVE BY THE END OF THE YEARLmao the goal post shift has been crazy
>>735135669Yes, successful pooular online games are the exception rather than the rule. Them being microtransaction games or single purchase games is mostly irrelevant though.What point are you failing to make here?You can run a game off of microtransactions (gatcha being by far the best example, League for a more classical game, Apex / Fortnite / Valorant if you want a shooter) just because a titan exists in the genre doesnt mean a new game cant catch on, just that it needs to be better than the titan already out there.Valorant is a very direct example, noone was competing with Counter Strike and everyone was failing at making Overwatch cloes, but a good (personally I hate it but we are taking about all consumers not our personal preferences here) game made a spot for itself and is now printing money.
>>735136084it's a flop cope harder retard
>>735136084im not doing anything.
>>735136050That's just most old IPs, Dungeon Keeper wasn't an outlier, it was a start
lowkey concord wasn't even that bad
>>735135912she has the unfocussed gaze of a woman that hates every second of her life.
>>735135974Seriously, pricing your time is what you do for work, not for things you ostensibly enjoy doing. I don't buy a fucking game thinking>Okay, if I price my time at $1 an hour I have to play this game for at least 40 hours to get my money's worth.Only faggots do this shit, it's so retarded.
>>735136170Absolutely, but pointing it out makes you a "chud" as the hordes of men that don't know what pornhub is will lose their fap material
>>735134157It is pretty good, actually. It does good job explaining the reason behind Marathon's hate bandwagon.
>>735136226I've had a ton of fun with games that took me a few hours to beat and cost me a tenner or so, games that I've sunk thousands of hours into that cost me like fourty bucks or games that were literally free like Voices of the Void that I've played for days on endSo what do I benchmark against? Even if you tried to justify the logic somehow, it just doesn't work, that's not how it works at all.
imagine being a shill and seething all day because you are so powerless against /v/ knowing you can't win against /v/ doing nothing and still wins
If you have to desperately try to convince everyone it was a flop, then it wasn't a flop >ctrl+f: "retarded turd">3 resultsLol
>>735136170>>735136234Projection + cope
>>735136280>doing nothingThis is what the modern capitalist fears the mostBeing content with what you have and living life at your own pace is poison to the biggest companies in the world. Just doing nothing RUINS them
>>735136293If you have to desperately try to convince everyone it was not a flop, then it was a flop you lost you retarded turd
There are bald fat guys literally streaming the chart to like 15 viewers LMFAO these are the people spamming /v/
>>735134157Never having played Halo or Destiny and enjoying Marathon is a soul healing experience.
>>735136293We're not convincing anyone, we're pointing and laughing, chuddy
This thread is full of severe mental illness.
>>735136293why is bungie in need to convince me it's not a flop you retarded turd?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9N0IMV8Qv8
>>735134157The real reason is that the internet has killed the critic, this is in some ways good and in some ways bad, as now you have a horde of uninformed retards directed by some of the most crass, unproductive members of our society. Discourse about anything, video games included, is a nonstop exercise in is/ought where people constantly attach normative subjective assertions to explicative or factual observations about things. Marathon is a really good example of this.
>>735136280>>735136320>"doing nothing">he has has he spams literally non-stop for weeksIf you were actually doing nothing you would be off playing a game or something, not posting here about how little you're doing
>>735136170Lmao you're so desperate for some kind of win
>>735136365>severe mental illness.Enter: https://files.catbox.moe/qr5s4y.mp4
>>735136348you mean like you retard are spamming /v/ how it's definitely not a flop with 60k people?look at yourself you pathetic retard>>735136380/v/ won
>>735136276It's an evolution of this always hustle mindset that's infected the zoomer brain. Everything you do has to be priced in, ever minute must be accounted for on the balance sheet of your life. No fucking wonder they're all miserable and do nothing but watch their favorite eceleb complain about the newest dramaslop or whatever.
>>735136380The guy that replied to you had been doing this for weeks too lol
>>735136430You lost.
>>735134590>14k average playersThe average is 30-something thousand. Marathon never even dipped below 15k except for server maintenance. What are you talking about?
>>735136416holyyyyyyyyy shitok this is actual mental ill, good god
>>735136380he wouldn't be doing that if had a game to play.
>>735136457>It's an evolution of this always hustle mindset that's infected the zoomer brain.People have been making the retarded "Movies cost X but are only 2 hours long ergo The Order 1866 is worth the money" argument for forever, stop assuming everything retarded is on the zoomers you absolute brainlet.
>>735136509okay, it still needs millions to break even
>>735135974Why? It's a good mentality to know that you're getting good value out of your money
>>735136416>Chile
>>735136416So this is what chuds mean by uh "doing nothing" huh
>>735136681A lot of the seethe over Marathon comes down to third worlders being mad it's not f2p
>>735127396The game sold decently for a mid-budget AA title. I'm sure that devs for some throwaway licensed Namco game would be planning the sequel already.For a big budget Bungie title, it sold like shit. Especially considering that it's cannibalizing Destiny 2 (which did WAY better and is still considered a failure by Sony).
>>735136609Do you ever get tired of building strawmen when you could better spend this time playing the games you pretend to enjoy?I never claimed that Zoomers invented the phenomenon, you dumb fuck. It's rather empirically correct observation that Zoomers as an aggregate tend to apply a hyper-transactional mindset to leisure and treat their own free time like billable hours.
>>735136683sakura cutekero cool
>>735136315>>735136398yea..... a "win"
>>735127396Yeah well you're fucking GAY
>>735136509Wow, so your saying it will reach a combined playtime of Destiny 2 year 1 in 5 years instead of 10, amazing.Which is stil wrong, D2 lauched to 160k average, then hovered between 50-100k (depending on how the latest expansion landed) for the next 5 years. Marathon on launch is struggeling to hold the player numbers Destiny had between expansions.>why do you keep comparing it to DestinyBecause Sony bought Bungie to get their own Destiny>>735136761>It's rather empirically correct observation that Zoomers as an aggregate tend to apply a hyper-transactional mindset to leisure and treat their own free time like billable hours.You absolute fucking brainlet, fit this through your thick skull, people have always done this.
>>735133378>do nothing>say you did nothing>HAAAAA YOU SID SOMETHING AFTER ALL *twirls pubes mustache* YOU POSTED haaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAretard
>>735136829I just corrected the wrong number. What did you type all that out for?
>>735127396>"WHERE'S THE FUCKING MONEY SHITHEAD??!!"It doesn't matter what I think about this game. What matters is what Sony thinks.
>cat-cat-turning-head.gif>quickly googling cat gifs in between posts because you decided posting cat gifs was your "thing" for this thread Please get a life
>Bungie definitely expected a hardcore extraction shooter where you die in 1-2 seconds and lose gear to have as big of numbers as a casual MMO-esque looter shooterWhen you realize steamcharter's only crutch is that they're convinced they know the exact budge and goals for the game when in reality is just made up to make them feel better
>>735136829I never said that they didn't, the current zeitgeist and the advent and full proliferation of the internet has made it's impact on the Zoomer generation far worse than it has ever been before, any generation would have ended up the same under these conditions. Are you fucking retarded or are you just pretending not to understand. Really take your time and synthesize the information this time, don't just let it pass right through your empty eyes through the back of your skull.
>>735137001You know, I bet that they wouldn't be thinking about it very much if they were actually really enjoying the videogames. They were willing to drop full price on Resident Evil, which is a short game. I think that the most relevant things with price are P2W (not relevant to this discussion) and "I'd barely even want to try this for free; why would I ever want to pay $40 to try it" (the one that matters here).You just want to control the flow of information so that you can convince them that they're alone in feeling like games have turned to shit and the industry doesn't know what it's doing.
>>735136380>If you were actually doing nothing you would be off playing a game or somethingI just got off a Skyrim to Rimworld back to back gaming session and am about to head to sleep with some /v/ shitposting to bring about great naps, you do realize that posting here isn't some intense high-stress activity that requires hours of intense focus, right anon?
>>735137001>the current zeitgeist and the advent and full proliferation of the internet has made it's impact on the Zoomer generation far worse than it has ever been before,No. Take your meds, the Zoomers are nothing special and you are seeing things where there are none and looking back through nostalgia goggles.I sat through countless hours of>MW2 is a bad game because the campaign is 3 hours long, Skyrim is a good game because I played it for 100 hoursshitposting, stop trying to rewrite history, nothing has changed, people have always valued time and retarded comparisons between average RPG lenght vs any other non-multiplayer genre has existed since videogames became even remotely popular.Seriously, stop making everything about Zoomers, they are not that important or relevant
>>735136663Fucking is it though? Do you go to a nice dinner with friends and think "hrm, 20 bucks for this full meal plus drinks for only.. FOUR HOURS? HORRIBLE VALUE!!"You're obsessing over shit that doesn't matterYou should be asking these two questions: Did you have fun and does it feel worth the money spent to you (with a bonus of "can I really afford this")Videogames aren't some mathematical equation to solve, they're entertainment. They're made to make you FEEL GOOD. You don't justify FEELINGS with CALCULATIONS, you absolute fucking mongrel.
>>735137432Never said it was but it is in fact doing something
>>735137537If you think ten minutes of 4chan shitposting is more than "doing little to nothing" then I can't help you, sorry chud.
>>735137565Nice goalpost shift, original claim was "doing nothing" not "doing little to nothing" lmfao
How did the right lose the culture war?
>>735137653>about how little you're doingOnly mirroring your rhetoric, chuddy
>>735137870Cope, original post of the chain literally says "doing nothing">>735136280>doing nothing
>>735137971To do nothing is impossible, fuck back off to Reddit if you wanna go "heh, erm, ackshually you're shifting goalposts..."
>>735137863By doing nothing
>>735127396Why do you feel the need to tell us you like eating shit? Just eat quite and fuck off, nobody asked.
>>735138007>I-I was only pretending to be retarded, I dont actually mean what I sayLmfao cope harder man, no one is buying it.
>>735138127>yes, I AM illiterateJust say that, it's way easier
>>735134617Even back when Catalyst servers were alive its all time peak was 1446. Next to that Marathon looks great.
>>735136293yunodustborn!?
>>735138271You can't really compare it to Marathon because it came out on Steam only 4 years later and it's not solely multiplayer
>>735138330Unless there's a singleplayer Marathon mode without any online connectivity, please correct me if that's the case
i see we moved on from it will be a smashing success to it sold just ok
>>735127396>alright, ill give marathon a try>play a game>guys>all the character animations are copy pasted from Destiny 2>the climbing, jumping, vaulting, reloading animations - they are all 100% copy pasted from Destiny 2>guys>the NPC enemies are just Red Legion models repainted in bright pastel colours>literally the same jetpack jump animation>i cant do this guys, sorryalt f4 + uninstall.bungie wants 40$ for this.
>>735138478>guys>the big NPC enemy with the shield>is just the Red Legion soldier>he even has the same weak spot
>>735138442You can't argue with shills, it's that shrimple. They know that their game will just slowly bleed out and only live a year at max unless Sony pulls the plug on it sooner. For it to be a profit it'd need 200-300k players on all platforms 24h peak but it can't even do that
>>735138539>pay 40$ to run around as shopping mall manequins dressed in clown clothing and 3 maps that look like assets didnt load properly (huge grey blocks with numbers on them).who is supposed to be the target audience for this?
>>735138593the ideologically compromised who feel they have to play it out of tribal loyalty
>>735127396Project Nortubel is more popular.
>>735138593>whoThe modern audienceYou knowThey keep telling us it exists
>>735138442We moved on to reality, yes.
>>735133145I started noticing zoomers doing this with everything but especially anime.Everything is either "goated" or "mid"Nothing can just "exist"
>>735138593dads
>>735138593Twitter retards and troons who think cp_orange/onions packaging is the peak. Weird how actual criticism gets buried and they can't refute it properly. Like how the TTK is too low and that you can just play assassin and play the sitting game all day long and once someone shoots they starts moving. So it's either a camping simulator in solos or premade retards trying to kill everyone with free gear. There's no real substance to this game. It's pure slop. Watch the shills say "git gud" to this, they can't argue against it with any meaningful points. What's worse is that they revived this singleplayer franchise as an extraction shooterslop instead of making something meaningful.
>>735133145>"mid/eh/alright” performancewhich is a flop on 300 million dollar budgetpeople talk about "concordlikes" but concord was the biggest flop of all time, none of the other games even came close, highguard was just some overhyped indie projectthis is the only one with a comparable budget
>>735138652The only ideologically compromised I see are those obsessed about hating a game they don't know shit about.
>>735138593the shareholders
>>735138831It's just money laundering
>>735138829>actually you are the ones in a cultt. cult member
>>735138824>overhyped indie projectYou don't get the most expensive spot in the game awards as some small indie company
>>735138478Never played Destiny. Are there big, non-humanoid enemies? Maybe Bungie should reuse those 2.>>735138593Me. I like how the game looks and plays. I just wish you do custom shells instead of having classes.
>>735138850You're desperate to squeeze a little culture war slop discourse out of stones.
>>735138932it's a disgusting troon game made to disfigure a legendary classic game, nobody can stand looking at it, and the hardcore extraction trend was over years ago already. it cost 300 million and has less players than TF2's rotten corpse.it's the second biggest bomb of all time, well deserved.
>>735127396dont you think its a bad sign if you take the time to quantify "enjoyment per hour" to determine if you spent your time and money effectively?>The internet seems so focused on disliking things that it makes me wonder have you noticed how there is basically no hate around Crimson Desert. And Arc as well, just popped up and was popular without much negativity at all. A different example from an existing game, Hell Divers 2. there is a lot of negativity around it, but its focused on its developers. but because the gameplay is focused on a casual audience it grew and maintains a healthy population despite the mismanagement from its developer. So then we look at Bungie, known for shipping games without a story like in destny 1. Mismanaging destiny 2, nickle and diming its fanbase for years and allowing it to wither and nearly die. a studio that ruined Halo multiplayer with Reach. Made terrible PVP modes in Destiny 1 and 2... then decided to make a non Free to Play live service game that is heavily PVP focused, with a controversial and sloppy art style, late in the life cycle of an already saturated and tired game genre, while making pvp punishing for casual players. Can we consider that some people will like it, but more wont or simply will never care in the first place?And perhaps fans should understand that people not liking something isnt hate, and pretending that it is will only make things worse.
>>735139060>legendary classic gamelet's not go too far
>>735129432I miss Highguard already. Playing a few matches a week was fun. It was never gonna be the massive hit the devs delusionally expected it to be but it wasn't a bad game either. It just feels like a waste to find a game you like and have it die almost immediately. Why spend years making something just to kill it less than two months after releasing it?
>>735139115uncultured troon
>>735139159It's not legendary and it's only pumped up by literal apple troons to begin with, clown.It was a competent shooter on the mac, when they had nothing else. It always paled in comparison to it's contemporaries.
>>735133107Its a reference to a computer from the 80s called the ZX Spectrum.Nothing to with gay.
>>735139223it literally is a game steeped in myth and legend
>>735139159I don't even care about the new Marathon, I like a bit of Marathon 2 and that's it. The game was not legendary not even at the time. I'm fucking tired of this rhetoric about Marathon being some kind of FPS god game or something.
>>735139223and let me also say (in your defense) that the three games were playable for years on Windows, and plenty of Bungie Halo nerds knew about the series (Myth, too)but even then, it remain something less than a cult-classic
Baj
>>735129432>well more people played the free game than the non-free gameYou niggas coming off kinda desperate
>>735139401HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>735138593>pay 40$ to run around as shopping mall manequins dressed in clown clothingextraction shooters in general are just fucking retarded.>collect trash for 30 minutes>camp inside a box at the exit pointthis is the same category of trash as battle royale games.
>>735139501We get it, you're bad at pvp
>>735139501It's even worse than br
>>735139501Get good, lol.
>>735139574>he thinks hiding in a porta potty for 30 minutes is pvpi can 1v1 you in unreal tournament if you want.
>>735139638>heh I just made something up about you, I winlmfao brother if you're getting raped by porta potty campers you got no business in unreal tournament
>>735139587to be honest i dont even see the difference between them. >collect trash>survive at the endits the same game.
>>735139574Extraction shooters are specifically made for people who are dogshit at pvp games.Its why everyone rats and third parties in them.Its encouraged to do so.
>>735139574most people are and they will play something else.
>>735139704TWOMOREWEEKS
>>735139680so you never played an actual pvp shooter, got it.
>>735139701Even if you are literally the best at pvp, your kda won't save you in an extraction shooter. Ofc its encouraged to not pick fair fights when its a lose it all situation.
>>735139726Yeah that sounds about right.
>>735139684Yeah but you can have an advantage from your previous "runs" here so I think it's worse than everyone starting from zero
Me? Personally? Having a blast. Can't wait for Cryro to drop later today.
>>735139840Are you circumcised?
>>735139797Its very good for dunning kreuger type players because if they get a cheeky kill on someone not even looking at them and see they are fucking loaded the positive dopamine rush of "i deserve this, i am good at the game" hits, its like winning at roulette and thinking its because you are intelligent and calculating.
>>735139872You're welcomed to come find out for yourself
>>735139840Having such a blast you need to tell us how much fun you're having instead of having funDon't forget to collect that paycheck!You're not.. you're not shilling for free, are you?
>>735139060Stop hallucinating transexuals you deranged schizophrenic.
>>735138593>Who's the target audienceNot me
>>735129603Anon if the game didn't even make back its production budget where is the money going to come from to continue service?
Bought it for something to do with some buddies. It's completely fine. I agree with everyone on UI stuff, it's pretty fucking bad. They can make it stylized while also making things more intuitive and clear. Standard Bungie gameplay so if you played Destiny it'll feel like that. Biggest problem is them asking $50+ for this. It feels oddly barebones, lacking the turbo-autism of Tarkov while feeling less like a sandbox relative to Ark Raiders. They should have gone with $20 and then made a battle pass that's not utter shit. Definitely more fun to play than to watch and I think if you're bad at FPS games it's going to be miserable. Healing items and ammo are oddly expensive and if you're dying, or even surviving lots of fights, just being able to outfit yourself would get tough quick. I can see why soany people are bouncing off it.
>>735139957The game is moments away from going down for maintenance so yeah I think I'll post on my favorite Japanese imageboard in the meanwhile
>>735140012Oh you know where from
>>735140045>Biggest problem is them asking $50+ for thisUhhh they're not, it's 40$
why are some people saying this game is "hard"?whats "hard" about it?you aim with your mouse and left click to shoot.
>>735140086I'm a leaf, so it cost me more maple bucks.
>>735140050Thief nerfs imminent.
>>735140132and completely deserved they gave her one too many things to do, not sure what they were thinking>Grapple tech gives her better mobility than Vandal>Long lasting drone that can safely scout out/ping enemies and also steal items>Visor that lets her see which chests are worth looking, also see through smoke, ALSO can hack enemy playersRelax bitch, meanwhile Vandal can double jump
Isn't it telling how the Marathon cuckdevs tried so so hard to make all the characters ambiguous unsexy dolls but all people post of the game now is "the sexy one"? Makes you think.
>>735140207I think the problem here lies with Vandal, she sucks hard and does nothing. Meanwhile I hear complaints to let Destroyer shoot with his shield up, as if having the best offense and high mobility as the """""tank"""""" class isn't already retarded.Imo buff Vandal's mobility, tone down Destroyer's mobility, reduce Assassin and Thief's HP, and you're golden. Maybe tweak Recon so she isn't worse at pinging than Thief.And don't remove the FPV suicide drone, it's peak entertainment.
>>735140274the entirety of marathon looks like some roblox/lego dogshit, its unplayable for me.
>>735140274Vandal and Thief are very obviously female, and cute.Recon is ever so slightly subtle since she has a helmet on but her hips are obviously female. I'm afraid you just might be autistic.>>735140324I think they expected/maybe still expect Vandal to be the high skill ceiling class that people will master for her to eventually do insane shit with her mobility but the problem is no one sees the point in putting in that effort, especially since the way fights in this game are usually very quick there really isn't much time (or even options if you're in doors) to do flanks or some crazy mobility shit. They need to make her dash slide cancellable and give her some damage mitigation during her ultimate
>>735140418hahahaha what the fuck is that face.
>>735140473It's cute!
>>735127396You are raped but thats okSoon enough bungie will be raped and all will be forgiven
>>735140418>femaleIn the lore they use xhe/xim though?
>>735140668Only brown people from sharty use that shit, I know you're being retarded on purpose but I like the excuse to post more cute Marathon girls
>>735140715>ignoring the loreExpected from marafloppers tbqhI dont blame you personally considering the people who wrote it also made STAR WARS
>>735140207Thief>best mobility>best scouting>best utilityWhat were they thinking.
>>735140668I know you subhumans only have one joke, but everyone is gendered, even the AIs, so I don't know what your deal is.
>>735140324>Meanwhile I hear complaints to let Destroyer shoot with his shield upI hope you are making this shit up. Destroyer definitely does not need buffs like that. If I would want a buff for destroyer, maybe have the shields deploy faster. That is about it.
>>735140828Here's your chance to post proof and own me
>>735140121it could also be a map design problem. Even old bungie only got it right with Halo 2. Halo 3 and Reach suffered from having maps with to much dead space paired with long range weapons. it creates a problem where advancing through the map becomes the difficulty. i used to love using the sniper rifles in those games and it was a tactic of mine to save ammo by watching someone try to advance out of cover and letting them get just far enough way that they couldnt retreat if they got into combat due to the slow movement speed. 1 chest shot with a sniper rifle, 1 br shot to the head. Destiny also had terribley mismatched maps with almost the opposite problem. no lines of sight with huge AOE nukes. A player could play to the strengths of their best weapon and remove the enemies ability to react at all. Bungie has always struggled to find a balance, and now the players are halo slow with fast time to kills, so you are more at the mercy of map design.If anyone has played Swat in Halo, it appears ot have a similar dynamic to marathon. if you are a good shot with good movement instincts, youll do great. if you are lacking in one or both, youre gonna have a bad time, and that is most people.
>>735140889>so I don't know what your deal is.my deal is bungie killed destiny to produce this fucking dogshit that looks like lego had sex with roblox.
Remember 90% of the posts seething about this game are scorned Destinytards, go look at their general they obsessively talk about Marathon more than their own game.
>>735140889My deal is im from 4chan while your bungies top reddit mod so I can see why we have such a conflict
>>735127396Once I see the cost per dollar value cope I know this shit is flopping like a fish
>>735140324The only charge Destroyer needs in a buff to his health (he is wearing armor, come on) and the ability to damage and knock back enemies by dashing into them with your shield up.
>>735140889Forgotten...
>>735140965I'm actually a scorned Halotard, the Desticle children have to get in line, I piss on Bungie's grave first.
>>735140923Post proof? Don't worry im a bungie employee so you can trust what I say
>>735140965Their new update was kicked months down the road specifically to make room for Marathon, what else are they supposed to talk about?
>>735140965Hey bungie when are you gonna make good games again instead of shitting on your primary audience and focusing on a dead competitive audience? Kinda dumb you abandoned us since shadowkeep and continue to slowly push us out
>>735140517You know, instead of trying to convince people that ugly is cute and beautiful, they could just actually make them cute and beautiful and gamer concerns about female designs would totally vanish within seven years. Even the most paranoid people would move on by then.Except for the Karens and cucks, but now we can tell them that they had the most generous chance that anyone has ever been given with essentially bottomless ESG money, the most prestigious brands on the planet, and complete institutional protection and the end result was that the Hollywood machine was brought to the brink (or over the brink) of total collapse.
>>735140971>while your bungies top reddit modI'm actually Sekiguchi Group Co., Ltd.'s strongest bagholder.
>>735141190>your primary audiencelol not anymore little nigga, Bungie belongs to US now.
>>735141042This is the best design in the game, and it would still be the worst in a game that actually had a good lineup of characters.
>>735141240I dont know what that is
>>735141207>gamer concernslol shut the fuck up faggot, I've seen the gachaslop that self proclaimed scorned straight male gamers praise
>>735141207You're a normalfag, your opinion quite literally doesn't matter.
THIS GAME WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD ON ARRIVALYOU TOLD ME IT WAS CONCORD 3 NOW ITS WEEKS LATER AND THEY ARE LAUGHING AT US
>less than 7k players 2 weeks after launchI actually bought it to try it out with the intention of refunding if it didn't click and yeah it's dogshit, it would be fine as a battleroyale rather than an extract shooter because the PvP is decent enough but literally everything else is just pointless baggage sony is definitely going to can this one
>>735141278Sony WISHES that their barrage of flops saw that level of success. Hell, without China's restrictions, they could have shown them how it's done. Gather the best and brightest in Japan/South Korea and put them to work. Instead, they chose Marathon and literally Concord.>>735141282The only people who want to look at this shit is the modern art show audience. Nobody's opinion should matter less.
>>735141345There's currently an update, the lowest peak so far was around 16.5K
>having to emergency update the game too allow duos to que raids because only streamers can get 3 stacks like the game is designed for and randumb trios just instantly wipe to the NPCsLighting status: Unbottled
>>735141345It's server maintenance day
>>735141509>>735141472cope, seethe even
>>735141502>Emergency maint>Players literally had to unlock it with an ARG before they would add the raidright...
>>735141320>Game has been out for 2 weeks>Has already lost 1/3 of its players and is still trending down
>>735141531I'm a professional Bungie hater but I'm not gonna fudge numbers about it
>>735141320It not gonna be the next Concord but it's probably gonna be the next Anthem.
This is a cute female character.
the game was supposed to be eos by now like highguard...I kept posting the steam charts and doing everything right...sisters they're laughing at us
>>735141735Love to see you tortanic troons coping in real time
>>735141320>>735141894I'm sure that you can find someone saying it, but that's not what people in general were saying. A lot of people who were saying "Concord 3" were actually overestimating its launch day and launch weekend.>>734295756 What makes this Concord 3 is that it needs a massive playerbase in order to succeed and should be able to get it with the Bungie name, but can't because of the horrible art and mediocre gameplay, and Sony could pull the plug on Bungie if this fails.
>>735141502It's not an emergency update, it was promised us several days ago. They are raising stack sizes in the vault, and I don't remember what else.
>Scroll through thread >Exact same shill images I've seen every other thread It really is just one jeet doing almost all the heavy lifting himself lmao
>4 billion dollars to sell decently
>ZOMG BUNGIE 8S COOKING WITH THIS UPDATE SO MANY POSITIVE CHANGESHoly fuck it literally is just destiny all over again
>>735141320>>735141894samefagyou know you're still getting laid off, right?
>>735142135This is like saying that a Star Wars movie making $25M on its opening weekend is decent."Decent" is relative here. The Bungie name alone should have made "250k peak concurrents" into a free space, and this was an expensive game.
>>735142280
>>735142302>I as someone who doesnt work for bungie or sony have made up a random goal it should reach, it didnt reach it, so it FAILEDlol
>>735142108i'd bet it's a bungie dev, with their abysmal sales they can't even afford jeet shills anymore lmao
>>735127636What's with this place and larping as hedge fund managers?
>>735127396>I, personally, don't tend to dwell on things I dislikeWhich is why I don't play Marathon
>>7351423924 billion dollars
>>735142392the game they canned to make this one opened with 5x the players in 2024.
>>735133908I'd buy Marathon but the interface is fucking vomit, the game would look so much better with almost no UI. The point of the aesthetic is to be tactile and communicate information without knowing what it is, UI elements should be built-in into the world, not some hideous 2D eyesore overlay.
>>735142357>that damage controlsadly you're still getting laid off
>>735142392>300+ employees>7 years>west coast costs>major studio (meaning that there are definitely quite a few positions that are highly paid)>probably some consultants, as wellYou don't have to be an insider to know that numbers that you'd expect to see for an AA title are catastrophic.
>>735140965>most of the people hating marathon are destiny playersand? can you honestly blame the destiny fags for seething?i dont.
>>735138656ENOUGH WITH THE NORTUBEL POSTING
>>735136293>3/4 games are a flop>somehow this is a winkek
>Capcom announced RE9 hitting its 6million milestone to investors>Mega Crit celebrates the unexpected success of Slay the Spire 2's EA>Months ago, BG celebrated Tarkov hitting 1 million sales>Bungie puts out an accolades video from journalist and streamers they paid to shill
>>735142302>I do conjecture bean counting for billion-dollar worth companies on random Internet image boards>Well, no, they don't pay me...
>non-buynary
>>735142628>misunderstood the poststupid kobennyposter
>>735142642So do they pay you to defend them?
>>735142628Don't make such abhorrent posts with my wife.
>>735142762That'd not a defense of the game but regardless>Tu quoque
>>735142628It's 4 out of 4
>>735142987>Only I'm allowed to ask a question like that, not youreally activates the almonds
>>735127396>Currently 2k players on steamIt’s so over
>>735143179Servers are probably down>the 2k playersIt's a possibility that they're bots.
It failed anon.
>>735138762skill issue
>>735127396true sister! who needs a big playerbase, all the reviews are glowing. Bungie even put out a accolades trailer to own all the chuds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzG0w-krZLs
>>735143079Nobody is "defending" the game from financial allegations. You're just making shit up. So anyway, why larp as auditor?
>>735143640>i'm not actually defending the gameSo what are you doing?
Tendies have spent an ungodly amount of time doing “nothing” in these threads since the game launched
>>735143179>>735143452yes
>>735143770>Every person that isn't a shill is my imaginary enemy!
>>735142527you mean the free to play New Light version of the sequel to an established ip?
>last week's maintenance: 2.4k players>this week's maintenance: 2.3k playersit is indeed over
>>735143686Asking why so many people larp as auditors on a video game forum. So why do you?
>>735143902tendie cope. How many hours have you spent doing nothing now?
>>735143904no matter what way you want to spin it, marathon is a fraction of the success destiny was
Are you getting paid to defend this game? Or why are you doing it? I don't understand. If you love it why don't you keep playing it until you die?
>>735144054>having a literal autistic melty
>>735144054Half actually like it, and the other half are paid shills. Just like AC Shadows.
>>735127396>have 20 hours into it already. That's 2 bucks an hour.Not only is that really fucking low, 2 bucks an hour for a live service game is really bad.
>>735143770>>735144019>Muh tendie boogeymanSony sure knows their audience wouldn’t let them fail
>>735133223Only in the gaming industry do companies and marketers feel so entitled to their customers money they'll not only make products their customers actively tell them they dislike, but also insult and berate their customers then blame them for the games failure. Complete madness.
>>735144138This doesn't really answer my question though. I'm just curious. If you love this game so much, wouldn't it be better to play it than spend time arguing here with anons? Or are we your "enemies" and the "enemies" need to be beaten? What's the end goal here? For everyone to love Marathon? Global brainwashing psyop? Help me here, anon. What are you actually doing? Why do you keep defending your beloved game, for what purpose? What's your endgame?
I don't think they paid 4 billy for the limp dick numbers Marathon is getting and for Destiny to completely disintegrate at the same time but hey, that's just some napkin math on my part.
>>735134410Can't keep those paid shills playing forever. It gets expensive. If they spent more time making a good game instead of putting it all into marketing and executives maybe they wouldn't be in this mess
>>735127396You do realize that if the game was good you wouldn't have to keep trying to make everyone believe it's good, right? It would happen naturally.. yet here you areBrimstone shill niggerKill yourself
>>735127396faggot
>>735144054why are you taking time out of your day to shit on a game you've never played?
>got home from work>maintenance Guess I'll bait the schizo for an hour until it ends.
>>735144530He's getting paid.
>>735143941>maintenance>still 2.3k players running the game??????????
>>735144305I was giving you the benefit of the doubt assuming it was a bad faith shitpost and not genuine retardation.You can enjoy something and not want to do it literally 24/7, as I'm sure there are games you enjoy and you are not currently playing them and the game is currently down for maintenance. >Why do you keep defending your beloved game, for what purpose? What's your endgame?Same reason you keep attacking it, it's 4chan, the point of social media is to talk about shit, on top of that your side has been obnoxiously spamming for weeks, who wouldn't want to poke fun at you? Why do you believe this site should be a echo chamber and only your opinion can be voiced?
>>735144204How is it bad? Hell, how is it low for a game that just came out last week? Do you not have a fucking job?
>>735128493>Appeal to triviality(you)
>>735144276The Hollywood machine (which covers western AAA) in general is like that.They're so used to being ultra-wealthy and all-powerful that normal business practices have fallen away. And unfortunately (for them as well, in the long run), there's been a bunch of circumstances that have continuously bailed them out at their worst. Infinite ESG money, the rise of China as a new major market inflating their numbers, coasting off of momentum after a pretty decent 30 years, etc.
>>735144530NTA but I've played during the server slam, retard
>>735128639>Only I know what Sony wants or has to care about.You're not fooling anyone.
>>735133378wow talk about a meltygood job giving that guy exactly the attention he "didn't want"
>>735144530>>735144567Why do shills keep on doing this same exact thing time and time again? The hytale shills did this exact "n-nuh uh ur dhe shill istead sarr", new gcj strat or are you all from the same company?
>Game sold decentlyStopped reading there."Decently" is a relative term. In this case relative to how much it costs to make. The development was easily two hundred million so the game not even remotely covering development costs is all but "decent".Get new shill material because that ain't it, chief.
>>735128493why do you care?why come here and post when you obviously don't like it here and don't belong?do YOU have money in sony?earn money from them?
>>735144679If you're trying to shill "I got my money's worth!!!!" then yes, 2 bucks an hour is low.
>>735127508.what a stupid meme, this is literally a videogame image board
>>735128165Most live service games don't cost 200m to make and are tied to a 3.6b studio purchase, either.
I love shitting on Marathon and want it to fail. Why? Cuz fuck Bungie and Sony
>>735144851upvoted!
>>735144773They're stupid and attempting to consensus crack the prevailing opinions on /v/, that being marathon is shit. Also muddying the waters. They'll never actually change anyones minds, but they're at least hoping to give the illusion that there is dissent on how shit the game is. Which isn't helping them anyway since everyone is wise to this shit now for one, and two, this whole thing is so widespread all over the internet there's no fighting it. They even got their main shills like burntpeanut seething and coping about the non-stop attacks, which just invite mockery.
>>735144693The fall will be kino that's for sure. Even if it takes the economy with it.
>>735144921ooh sensitive
>>735127670Are you retarded? You think colors will save this game? Its horrible on every level. It will be dead by December. Once GTA 6 online is released
>>735145059what? I like your edit
>>735133663>the actual playersthe 5 guys playing?>and streamersthe 2 streamers playing?
>>735144964I know all that, but what I don't understand is why they are doing this now when it's been tried before and it didn't accomplish anything at all last time.
>>735145257Suits are retarded and don't have their ear to the ground to know its pointless is my guess, or its an attempt at damage management. To not do it makes the optics of the game look even worse with little to no arguments about it being hot trash. Or if they don't know then maybes its like how the ceo of ubisoft was confused his game failed when it had so many high reviews, despite paying for them. And if they're paying you to shitpost on /v/, I don't think you're gonna argue too hard to lose your job.
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>>735145540Fair enough.
>>735144964>>735145540I have grifter (You) fatigue
No positive reviews get this number of awards lol absolutely 100% paid. Tried adding these 'players' but they wouldn't accept.
>>735144885I want it to fail because it's agressively mid and agressively >it gets good after 250 hoursAnd then they reset your shit completely after a couple of months. There's just too many lazy design decisions that benefit them and not the players
>>735142613________
>>735145785I don't know, it is clearly orchestrated but bungie drones are that pathetic, they are probably doing it for free.
>Cryo is outbye freaks
>>735145785>I tried to add themyou guys are actually fucking mental lol
>2,400 in gameThis is very pathetic.
guys i've found the modern audience.
>>735146251Shut up, I'm exposing the jews here
>>735145835That's retarded, why do they do that?
>>735146606You answered your own question anon.
>>735133378>uhm actually you're now breathing manually
Me? I had a blast with this game!
>>735132730>steadyIt lost 13k in the last 7 days.
>3GBpor que
>>735127396>MaratroonIt's terminal, I give it 6 months to live before the leftoid devs have to come back home
>>735147185>jeetfrog posterwow we really care about your insight, bro
>>735146606"To level le playing field" but I'm guessing the real reason is to reset the matchmaking
Bump.
>>735136378>is a nonstop exercise in is/ought where people constantly attach normative subjective assertions to explicative or factual observations about thingsI don't think I've ever heard someone actually describe the futility of gaming discussions so let me provide an example of my past frustrations:- Factual: Company removes something permanently from the game, fucking people who spent time and effort into getting it and future people from accessing it- Subjective: I say that is bad; someone else says it is okayMy opinion is that the other people who say it is okay are simply shit at the game and have no idea what has been lost. But that opinion aside, if a critic was involved in this discussion they would presumably be an expert with authority who could say whether or not this was a bad thing. And because we no longer have critics but rather grossly incompetent and misinformed streamer figures who rubber stamp every decision by the company we have these streamer authorities validating every stupid subjective idea from every stupid corner of the stupid community.
>>735136378>>735149378Fuck off, both of you.corporations killed critics via bribery ages ago.LONG before you faggots started whining about "the internet" harming critics.Fucking newfags with no memory of gamergate
>>735149794You have no memory of what it was like before gamergate when we could trust some people, including critics. We didn't have embargoes before gamergate like we have today.It's wild how much you people attribute to gamergate, it being a scandal involving a nobody fucking a nobody for access to a product nobody remembers. It's like prosecuting a corrupt mayor of a 100-person village to take down the entire federal government, which sadly, is what you think happened. And because you think it is what happened, you are using it as a pillar from which to destroy everything without any understanding of what is good or bad. People are baffled that gamergate was the beginning of fucking anything given what it was, nothing.
>ctrl+f>retarded turd>12 resultsI am now in favor of mandatory digital id to filter underaged retards
>>735150210Nigger I grew up in those times, shut the fuck up.Back when you got gaming news from magazines and the games journalists were on our side, out to prove games were good, fighting against the likes of the satanic panic/helicopter parents who were terrified of videogames having violence in them like mortal kombat.>gamergate was nothingok so YOU weren't around for ANYTHING.got it.you are a liar who wasn't in the relevant circles AT ALL for ANY of it.thank you for clarifying that you are just a retarded lying shill.You are some outsider that read a fucking wikipedia article that deliberately omits everything except the teeny tiny scope the game journo's focused on to HIDE everything everyone was digging up.Good job outing yourself you stupid fucking newfag shill.
Marathon is far better than I expected, better than everyone told me it would be, and it’s far better than the internet crowd will care to admit. The internet has grown insufferable to the tune of trying to cancel any game they would have never tired to begin with while praising the 95th iteration of the same game they’ve bought every year. Stop listening to these people, try new games, new genres, and most of all, it’s a game, have fun.
>>735150501>dude its a product shut up and buy itno
>>735150501>while praising the 95th iteration of the same game they’ve bought every year.he says, in defence of a game where the vast majority of its content is just something lifted directly from destiny 2 with a roblox facelift
>>735133378I still haven't done anything though. And I will continue to do nothing.
>>735136050i used to play marathon 2 on xbox live shit was so cash
guys, are you HOOKED?!?!? I'm so fr*ckin HOOKED!
>>735150501>CONSOOM THE SLOP GOY
>>735150467I was here when moot exiled those fucking retards who would start 8c.Again, everyone is baffled those people have become players on the national stage. Everyone is baffled we are even talking about gamergate still but it has become such a movement that serious academics have to trace back to it as the beginnings of something that is affecting the whole country. A corrupt video game review just fucking up the whole nation.Like, don't you realize that even invoking gamergate outside an academic space makes you sound like a crazy person? It's like a dogwhistle for stupid people; an alarm for sane people to look away. It makes me sound like a crazy person for talking to you.
The game just genuinely oozes The Sauce.If you are falling for the "Concord 3.0" posts, you are truly missing out.I promise you that! You are legitimately holding yourself back from playing a great game.
>>735150878Blast? That’s unc speech, we guys are now HOOKED
>>735147185>>735127508>>735127739>>735129664>>735146439I'm having a blast.
>>735151406marketers have already caught on, new lingo is "hooked", see >>735150878
>I was here when moot exiled those fucking retards who would start 8c.Again, everyone is baffled those people have become players on the national stage. Everyone is baffled we are even talking about gamergate still but it has become such a movement that serious academics have to trace back to it as the beginnings of something that is affecting the whole country. A corrupt video game review just fucking up the whole nation.Like, don't you realize that even invoking gamergate outside an academic space makes you sound like a crazy person? It's like a dogwhistle for stupid people; an alarm for sane people to look away. It makes me sound like a crazy person for talking to you.
>>735150501i get the argument, this is the third extraction shooter in a genre that is already getting fairly crowded and flooded. which is the main reason people aren't playing this particular iteration there are only so many people around. it's when Mmo's all tried to be the next wow killer, or when you had a bunch of games trying to be the next fortnite killer and so on and so forth.it doesn't help that people on the left see this as the game to validate their ideology, or that people on the right see it as a game that if it fails invalidates the left's ideology.more so than anything, noone is really backing down. which is already a mess, but really to me it's just funny, there's people that are throwing themselves onto a pyre feeding the fire to protect this game, and vice versa. do i like the game? no. the aesthetic is just... hm to be extremely polite not my cup of tea without going to deeply into it. the characters all look odd and off-putting to me. it doesn't help that games like these tend to be funded with tax money in some way so people get angry, as it tends to be a way to slap the right in the face as i am sure people have seen ad nauseum anyone remember dust-born or that latest medieval lesbian knight game? paid for with taxes.
Bump limit.
Arc Raiders, right?
>>735151761>corruption is everywhere>except here, you're crazyaight then
>>735136293>bungie's new multiplayer shooter>can't break 100k players Anon, that's not good.This game was/is never likely to shut down the way concord or marathon did, but it has absolutely underperformed and likely hasn't made back the costs of development and marketing.Sony probably won't kill it. Bungie won't be shut down. But it has not done well.They probably have enough players to milk the tards and whales for a while so they'll inch along for now.>testing duos They wouldn't be "testing" an alternative mode this early in such a way if player numbers or retention were what they wanted. If this game was killing it they would be spending time on the roadmap and cosmetics, not different ways to play it.
>>735146882cunt
I was here when moot exiled those fucking retards who would start 8c.Again, everyone is baffled those people have become players on the national stage. Everyone is baffled we are even talking about gamergate still but it has become such a movement that serious academics have to trace back to it as the beginnings of something that is affecting the whole country. A corrupt video game review just fucking up the whole nation.Like, don't you realize that even invoking gamergate outside an academic space makes you sound like a crazy person? It's like a dogwhistle for stupid people; an alarm for sane people to look away. It makes me sound like a crazy person for talking to you.
>>735127739Based, Sony trannies coping
>>735150945>"dude, the media lied about gamergate so just accept the lies and shut up"yeah no.>gamergate was just ONE lying review guysFuck off, lying retarded newfag.
>>735133145Imagine being a modern bungie fan when they haven't put out a good game in over a decade
>>735133145The game cost over a quarter of a billion fucking dollars to make, "decent" objectively isn't good enough.
I might as well give a QRD on what gamergate really was before thread locks.It wasn't just one bitch fucking reviewers to get reviews.It was hundreds of small, independent "deals" as a common "business practice" to commit fraud.Sometimes between friends and family who were in different-but-touching circles, sometimes to exchange benefits.You would often see a trio of circles between business, reporter, and government oversight.No massive conspiracy, just commonplace and systemic corruption spread like stage 4 cancer.And a number of goverment groups trying to lean on developers via this web of corruption to push some of their ideas forward on how those games would be.We basically caught the edges of a web of influence that Epstein stood in the upper levels of.
>>735138593Trannies
>>735155128Exactly
