>what if we just rendered every frame like there was a spotlight shining on itSeriously what the fuck is this level of incompetence?
ass
>>735128258Pretty unreal Nvidia actually thought this looked good. Even by AI standards this shit is 2023. Theyve lost their minds
>>735128258>He's so brown he doesn't have the divine light of creation shining from his eyes 24/7I'm sorry, anon
>>735128258Yikes.Isn't it r*cist to whitewash everyone like this?
left looks way better
>>735128258>dlss5 comes out>it turns black characters white >massive outragewould b funni desu
>>735128258>this needs TWO whole 5090s just to function at the speed and fidelity that it doesdoesn't matter because maybe like 10 people will ever get to experience DLSS 5 anyway. glad i'm stuck with a 3000 series card
>>735128609I love it when every character looks like they have a fucking ring light shined in them.This AI filter theyre putting on faces is all trained on fucking studio lighting so it just fucking deletes shadows on faces
>take human art>use $10,000 GPU>turn it into AI sloppified, uncanny, homogeneous abomination >also butcher lighting
>>735128363Maybe in America the left is considered white
>>735128363>>735128643>this is white in Americaand they call Paris brown
>>735128339>Nvidia...Theyve lost their mindsBullseye.Nvidia is pressured to come up with something new for investors.But the fact is that Nvidia is just a bunch of hardware people. Coming up with uses is software devs' jobs. The result is Nvidia coming up with nonsense while trying to pass it off as innovation
Shitty 4k """enhanced""" movies have been doing this recently. Nerrel made a really good video shitting on it and why it's terrible https://youtu.be/BxOqWYytypg
>>735128718They said they'd get it working on one card eventually. Then you'll only need one 5090.
>>735128258>Turns subtle blue glow into bright blue lightEverything this shit does turns anything subtle prominate, ass creed shadows chicks scar was made way deeper
>>735128643What I wanna see is black characters given more realistic large lips
>>735128258>Seriously what the fuck is this level of incompetence?remember all this "reimagined by ai" slop videos? it's only going to get worse.
>>735128258Why does he look like Mike Shinoda out of sudden?
>>735128258das racis
>>735129060wow, only one kidney instead of two. i'd save so much on dialysis costs
Does this work for emulation?
>>735128258So all those REALISTIC GTA5 videos were from nvidia shills?https://youtu.be/bsf8BWvQYbY?si=2lkdp-aR1EloxVkL
>>735128258Please understand we only trained on very well lit images. Underlit and dark images are not good for the training set. I think gamers will just get used to it and learn to like it.You want me to fix it? Hey fuck you man don't you know i put zero effort into making this. It's pretty amazing that even though it's rank dog shit I put zero effort into making it so the value is actually infinite
>>735128339It looks like nvidia completely lost interest in vidiya, so they push any idea from their software engineers. From their standpoint, after upscaling and framegen, ai postprocessing is the next step>>735129546Don't think so, DLSS should be implemented in the emulator first
>>735130937Would you rather Persona 6 be a Half Life 3 situation where it never comes out or be an TES situation where it releases 20 years too late
>>735128339It's doing 60 4k gens per second, that is pretty impressive even on 2 5090s
>>735128339I'm pretty sure they know it looks like shit or else they wouldn't have paid off Digital Foundry to shill it like their life depended on it, I think they slopped this out to try distract from the fact that they're involved with Palantir and the military complex now. Does it sound like an incredibly stupid idea? Yeah, but we've seen a LOT of fucking stupid ideas in the last two weeks.
>>735130937But that's the funny thing, it isn't actually well lit, there is fuck all sun lighting in that, it's like one key light right into his face on a gray cloudy day.
>>735131241>the new sloppification machine is better than previous sloppification machines because it can sloppify at a higher frameratenot exactly a win for them
>>735131465You don't have to like it to understand that it's actually impressive tech.
>>735131446It's lit exactly like a ton of modern movie productions, particularly capeshit and greenscreen stuff. Flat, even, boring, shadows are haram, the million-dollar actors' faces must be clearly visible on every frame, never obscured, and nothing else in the frame must risk taking the focus away.
>>735131515No one cares how technically impressive it might be when all that power is used to make everything look like ass.
>give every game the flickr pesudo-hdr look
>>735131646I care though
>>735131103I want realistic Persona 6 hire that man shit.
>>735128258>falling for the nvidia scam yet againYou brown retards do this every fucking time...>phys x processor>fluid motion>flex>tessellation>hair works>ray tracing>path tracing>DLSS>frame genLiterally non of these things to anything but half your FPS unless you buy the flagship product, then the driver update halves your FPS unless you upgrade to new flagship product
>>735131446well lit in the as in sufficiently litwas not commenting on the artistic value
>>735128258Does DLSS 5 make all blacks zesty as fuck?
>>735132119fair enough
>>735128258Poor training data and general goal misalignment. They probably got a lot of high fidelity camera shots of real people to achieve this effect, but the thing about high quality photographs is that they tend to be taken with bright studio lights, hence the model's bias towards fully illuminated faces. This in turn produces goal misalignment. In movies, TV, video games, etc the lighting tends to vary over a wide spectrum from "fully bright" to "Extremely dark" but you wouldn't take pictures of people in the dark, what would be the point if you couldn't see them? So the back half of this artistic spectrum has no representation in the data. So the machine basically doesn't know it exists, and overwrites it with what it does know.
>>735128258>comparison where after is on the left and before is on the rightFUCK YOU STOP DOING THISWhy the fuck is this so common these days? Is it some third worlder thing? Or just some shit zoomers are being retarded about? Like how they have no idea how to use pov properly
>>735132404They need to explain goymers, why the same hardware became way more expensive. And they have no idea. I doubt there is any way to make it work, not like snapchat filter. Like, run the game on offline path tracing render for training data?
>>735128258That's what's funny about it. They're marketing it as a "lighting" improvement despite it being an AI slop filter but it makes what they claim it's for, worse.It's so blatantly false advertising, they didn't even try to pretend it was a lighting pass and the AI slop was an artifact that can be tweaked out, they're just straight up lying.
Amd and intel need to get their shit together these guys cannot be the market leader doing shit like this
buy ram for the price of a used car thanks to this shit
>le ultra-realism goodIf I wanted the real world , I wouldn't play games. You play games to escape the world, not watch AI render maws you see everyday to render onto digital characters. I don't want to fucking see Abdul from Work in my game, Jensen you peice of subhuman shit
i don't know how AI does it, but it turns everything into shit
>buldoze rural white people's houses to build AI "factories">finally build nuclear power plants but only for the AI "factories">destroy the personal electronics sector of the economy>anihilate the concept of artstyle across interactive media>boil the lakes away>decimate your FPS>double your input latency>just to make faces uglier than what we had 13 years ago
>>735128258The images they fed for data training have studio lighting. And because this is literally postprocessing, it can't understand the lighting direction, just loosely bright and dark pixel areas.
>>735137687I don't care about any of that because it's not happening to me. I just like putting big tits and asses on video game characters
>>735128258You can tell it's been trained on images and videos that are lit by that influencer halo light they use behind their phones.It's just nasty. What's so bad about using actually directional light? Maybe a character is meant to be more shadowed than lit with shitty flat lighting.
>>735128258God the gaming industry is so fucking shit and who would honestly buy a better graphics card for trash like Starfield the game sucks.
>>735128258Something interesting i noticed about the digital foundry video, whenever they turn on or off DLSS5, the effect propagates outwards from the bottom of the screen. Like a literal spotlight being turned on.I'm starting to think this whole thing is fake and gay. There is no DLSS5.
>>735129379anon?
The 4090 was the last card worth buyingIt's over Nvidiabros...
>>7351388163080*
>all these dlss threadsvery organic
Think of the gooning.My god.
>>735129379>>735138726Twitter was actually offended about something like this in past
>>735128258>people just now seeing why their nvidia teaming was retarded>yet none have the ability to reflect on their past interactions with the brandingthis is a sign that in 3 years, nvidia will have their best customer trust ratings in history
This is bad why? Every single playthrough will now be personalized depending on how the AI hallucinates. Literally infinite vidya
>>735129181these awful videos are why they thought it was a good idea>ppl want to reimagine old games>make a live version of it>okay but how do we use it?>sell it as a per-client feature in new games>so pointless that even your toe suckers won't defend it
>>735129546dlss is proprietary. All you can hope for is AMD/Intel doing the exact same thing but making it open source for METAL to make something with it, so from there, emu devs can re-write it as a plugin to be blocked into their software
>>735131515it's also impressive that the CIA was gutted and replaced with indians
>>735131856yes but,>BOLD ARIEL FONT RTX ONI can recognise something like that
>>735132654it's intentional. it makes you stop to find clarification on how you are interpreting the comparisons, which means more time that you're aware of it.Propaganda tactic #01
>>735139009>memeable vidya related thing happensYeah, people couldn't possibly want to talk about this
>>735137791it is happening to you. For every litre lost, you lose value on all your assets, including your money. This means that every aspect of life becomes harder to access, this means you are physically and mentally weakened, this means you have less will, and all of these means you have less life, especially the ability to engage with it.
>>735139264>wow the cheek angle that has no definition was different by 2 pixels this time!
>>735139674I really don't. We have none of these AI data centers in my country. It's specifically an American issue, and I genuinely don't care what happens to Americans.
>>735139803An issue that does affect you, however, is having a cocktail shrimp where your dick is supposed to be
>>735131856physx was actually cool
>>735140113>no argument>y-y-you have a little dickI accept your concession.
>>735140573mad and small dickedeasy to upset
>>735128258>>735138712>spotlightI don't think that's it.It's more like sunny overcast everywhere with just luminance and colour corrections applied + 2022 stable diffusion ai slop faces.
>>735128258
>>735128730>I love it when every character looks like they have a fucking ring light shined in them.I do, too, because I actually grew up in the 90s when 3D games didn’t have sophisticated lighting engines to shroud every character in darkness making it obnoxious to see shit. We’re just returning to that era where you can actually fucking look at character details. It’s just a shame that it’s taking them a new kind of snake oil tech to return to the better times.
>>735140731see >>735140573
>>735139803Why do third worlders constantly think we care about their opinions? You are irrelevant to this conversation.
>>735131515In the same way it's really impressive to be able to paint the Mona Lisa perfectly with just your own shit and hand. Cool, glad you could do that, now please dispose of it immediately.
>>735128609Left is essentially a deepfake
>>735128609Maybe because it's a diffusion image and not a video game frame?
>TES VI will just be a.i. generated graphics>you'll need an 800 dollar GPU for it>32gb ram minimumthanks, Todd!
>>735141237they'll optimize their games even less from now on. it is my personal belief that they do this so more diversity hires (indians) can do the work for less
>>735139051>said drama on twitter was maybe 5 posts whining and didn't even reach the rest of the fanbaseTypical PMfaggot trying to insert their gook games into conversations where they aren't relevant in the slightest. That being said, it is true that Twittards have a meltdown if any brown character is drawn with a skin tone one shade too light.
>>735137687yeah but now even a jeet can code a game, the gpu will "handle" everything else.pesky things like "talent" and "paying for talented people" are a thing of the past
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Watch this mentally ill schizo board suddenly start defending star field just to shit on ai and pretend dlss 5 doesn't obviously look way better
>>735128258Left looks better
>>735128258can you please add DLSS5 to your post? my filters don't work otherwise.thanks.
>>735141902here's a revolutionary concept: shartfield and facebook-tier AI both look fucking awful and I don't want to see either one
>>735128803>Art>BetheshitSurely you jest
>>735131241If none of those frames look correct in the first place, it's just accomplished a whole lot of nothing.
>>735140738Yeah but why does it start at the bottom? You have to go frame by frame to see it, but it doesn't just go on and off instantly like you'd expect a post processing filter to do.
>>735129181It's going to be pretty hilarious when they try to implement this shit on actual video games and not just cinematic walking sims and the HUD/minimap just continually morphs into nonsense because the AI is constantly changing what it wants to render it as.
>can prompt all the niggers awaySOLD!
>>735141237>800 dollarNigga 5090 is 3-5k. And skyrim easily eats 18gb of ram already if you get silly with mods.
>>735141981>le both are baad could you be anymore npc?
>>735128339They don’t have a choice. This ai slop garbage is ordained by the global economic system which is in turn ai slop. It’s an artificial industry created to keep the grift going, it’s quite literally fake and gay at every level.
>>735137687It’s really understated just how much energy waste this garbage costs. It’s actually killing the planet but co-opted shills will actually blame regular citizens for not turning off the water while brushing their teeth or some stupid shit. It costs an astronomical amount of energy
>>735128258Retards getting high off their own supply. NVIDIA is the slop provider company, so now they've become convinced that the slop is good actually.
>>735128258>character in a dark, rainy alley>3 point lightingnvidia is retarded
>>735142401>i HAVE to take one of the options offered to me, I cannot choose neither or a third optioncalling others NPCs is ironic
Bummer that's it 50-series only. Would have been really neat otherwise.
>>735142714>imaginary third option that doesn't exist you sound religious
>>735136824Why he so flat
>>735139009Retard. New announcements get lots of new threads. Go back to complaining about pokemon or whatever you fucking freaks are doing all the time.
>>735142789>>imaginary third option that doesn't existi personally recommend the 'neither' option since starfield is so shit, but you can choose mods instead of AI garbage since it's a bethesda game
>>735128258That cant be real. It has to be a shitpost right? There's no way Nvidia actually showcase this. It looks exactly like a snapchat shitpost>>735128609Okay tranny
>>735128258Left looks significantly better as an image, but yeah. If it fucks up the lighting it will probably look like shit in game when moving. Also, i bet you will be able to see the face morphing if you look at it from an angle and slowly move to the front, since what the AI is rendering is not a 3d model, but 2d images created off the 3d model.
>>735128609saar
>>735142894>Okay trannyLmao are you gay for jeets?
>>735142983it's surreal how bad this isit looks like an ai gen with the cfg scale dialed up to 11
>>735128258the armchair software engineer and game dev has spoken
>>735142375If you're not a streamer or some shit, why would you ever buy a 5090?
>>735128258Honestly modern games look like such washed out sludge these days that any filter, even overblown AI ones, would probably improve them
>>735128258Left is better. Right looks like a video game.
It's funny, I'm as anti-AI as they come but I think this technology could be used to achieve amazing looking games >you could have a filter that takes a cel shaded game and flattens it so the colors, poses, and expressions always look like they were designed for the player controller camera angle>this would make it look like a genuine 2D animated game that takes place in 3D and avoids all the ugly 3D stuff that only ArcSys knows how to work around and only with fixed camera angles>you could have games that look like Arcane, TMNT Mutant Mayhem, Loving Vincent, and other animated media that requires a ton of manual adjustments for every frame >you could have games that actually feel moody and atmospheric like old games with pre-rendered backgrounds by creating an always shifting atmosphere that usually gets lost when you rotate a camera and realize it's all just 3D assets >you could have 3D games that look like Amano's or Shinkawa's concept art or other art styles that rely on ethereal qualities that consistent handmade 3D doesn't work well with >you could have the ability to flip a switch and make GTA look like the painted loading screen art Really the sky is the limit if you use it as a tool to finish off a style that was impossible or too much work up until nowAnd of course literally all they use it for is making dogshit HDR grainy photorealism..
>>735143134That just needs Path Tracing, which is more accurate than this image based garbage.
>>735143134Open world games aside who do it to hide the render distance, I don't get why every studio is so obsessed with blurring everything and throwing a brown or gray filter at it. It was the same 15 years ago.
>>735143224Left looks like one of those AI-narrated boomer brainrot videos that plague social media.
>>735143242It does have a lot of potential. The main issue I see is that games would have to be made from the ground up woth dlss in mind, which won't happen for a long time because of poorfags and AMD fags. It will likely take a decade before we start seeing this stuff be used properly in most games.
>>735143242Emphasis on the "could" there.
>>735143439I wonder how much of the current performance load is due to DLSS and how much is due to the game itself, maybe in theory you could make a much simpler looking game like Half-Life 2 tier in terms of polygons, textures, lights etc, to massively save on performance and then have DLSS make something out of it to reduce the hardware requirements Right now they're applying it to games that are already very demanding
>>735143242Imagine if they open sourced the weights and modders could train art styles that you could mod into games.
>>735143605It's not a post-processing filter, it's a pre-processing one. You wouldn't be able to use this to create additional geometry, or the appearance of additional geometry.
>>735142503>killing the planetway ahead of youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxfQVKFBMtM
>>735142983I cannot believe they thought this was acceptable to show, this looks fucking awful.
>>735128258Why are third worlders obsessed with making everything REALISTICdotTrademark?
>>735143134are we gonna look back at this current era of games as "grey & blur" like we do at mid 2000s games as "brown & bloom"?
>>735142401>would you rather be shot or stabbed?what an awful pair of choices>omg centrist ok
Reminder than /v/ is one person, and they are all me.
Motion Blur On >OffBloom On >OffDLSS On >OffRay Tracing >Off, pre rendered shadowsReflections On >OffOverall Graphic Quality >HighAs God intended
>>735144183Nah ray tracing can stay because that's actually based on physics and not VIBES.Bloom on low.Motion blur and depth of field all the way the fuck off because I'm PLAYING a game not FILMING it.
>>735144362we already fucking had ray tracing in games. it was called baked lighting and it looked fine. it just didn't run in real time. the only reason to have real time ray tracing in games is if there's some kind of gameplay mechanic based around manipulating simulated light that would be impossible to do without it. years ago i saw a video of minecraft with raytracing that recreated a camera obscura in real time.
>>735128258They better have an option for DLSS 4 in games because 5 is just a massive downgrade that destroys any art direction a game had. Every DLSS 5 demo looks exactly the same, shits literally an anti soul filter.
>>735143439>games would have to be made from the ground up woth dlss in mindThey already are and things have never been more grim.
>>735131856DLSS gives you more fps and looks better than the stock TAA.>>735144183Better turn video games off too. God didn't intend them. They're just digital slop and there will always be artifacts.
>>735144737Ray tracing stands for using rays outside of your viewport to cast lights. No it wasn't possible before, not without tanking your fps into unplayable numbers.
>>735145545>DLSS gives you more fps and looks better than the stock TAA.Maybe if you're a Pajeet who's too poor to supersample games.
>>735131241>$5000 worth of GPUs>60 fpsThat's how they think video games should be played?
>>735145981DLSS can be used for supersampling too yes. And compared to the native solutions it basically looks like that already without the negatives.
>>735139803I'm not American either. It is still fucking me and I'm as far from USA as you can get
>>735141280AAA will make low poly barely comprehensible assets and turn this shit on as a requirement. It's the ultimate "do no work and infinite profit margin." whilst forcing the AAA consumers into their services
>>735129546The "muh proprietary" guy is a retard who has no idea what he's talking about. It doesn't work for emulation because DLSS works with motion vectors, meaning the game tells DLSS in which direction things are moving. Old console games weren't built with that in mind.
>>735130980>It looks like nvidia completely lost interest in vidiyaThat's dumb. If that were the case they wouldn't be so far ahead of their competition. >b-but they make more money with some other thing A gig-corp can have more than one thing going on at the same time. It's not like the brain of a retard that can only hold one thought at a time.
>>735143242>it's funny, I'm anti-AI>Lists every reason to be anti-AI as a prou-huh
>>735128609Left looks like he'll drive a truck of peace into a Christmas market.
>>735147408Elaborate how, all the things I listed is shit that's either impossible to do by hand or prohibitively expensive, which means it's not replacing human effort or skill
>>735137687>buldoze rural white people's houses to build AI "factories"Anon, there is more than enough space in "rural areas". Tearing down houses would be very inefficient, even if you got those houses for free. >boil the lakes awayThat's not how cooling something works. You're just here to lie, aren't you?>double your input latencyHope you don't have an AMD card, because that way you'll have more input lag without frame-gen than Nvidia does with it on.
>>735143308and far noisier>>735147240you say this as if there are 0 2D arcade games with DLSS. You are wrong. DLSS has features that use motion vectors to increase resolution quality but it is not a requirement and that's why DLSS settings in games now have multiple quality options instead of a render resolution Upscale.
>>735139674Water doesn't magically disappear because it gets warm in a tube.
>>735147667https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/farm-owner-turns-down-staggering-15-million-offer-from-data-center-developer-i-love-this-land/ar-AA1YLFDOTell them that.
>>735147531muh intent
>>735144943I think 5 is an entirely different thing, kinda like how 3 is frame-gen and 1/2/3.5/4 is upscaling.Their naming scheme is fucked.
>>735147747You think that AI farms are buying their water as a recycled resource? You need to look at what the standard is. It's literally locate near water, siphon, dump water, gasses go into the air. It's worse than the smoke stacks that cyberpunk films depicted
>>735145506I mean from the artistic perspective, not the performance perspective. Ofcourse the jeets making the aaa games are going to use any crutch for their jeetcode to seem decent.
>>735128985I like how leatherman progressively lose his confident as he read the text on the prompter during his keynote.
>>735146241Back in the day you had people running quad sli setups to run gta 4 at 60fps in 4k. It's just the modern version of that.
>>735147803The intent is there no different than making pixel art that looks weird raw and relies on an outside layer like CRT displays to "click", the only issue would be the training material
>>735142823He's a flat boye
>>735128258>AI is the future
>>735128985>But the fact is that Nvidia is just a bunch of hardware peopleNvidia has a ton of softwarefags nowadays, but they are the big tech type of softwarefag from places like amazon and google, not game devs or people used to interacting with an artistic medium.
>>735148309Times moved on. We have 4K 240Hz monitors now. Nobody wants to play at 60fps anymore.
>>735149246>Times moved onThat's literally his point. Now you use those ridiculous setups to do something else because you can get 4k60 without them.
>>7351484891. Faangfags are no longer the innovators. The real innovators are at OpenAI, Anthropic, etc now. It's a new game and faang is trying to play catch up (have you heard of Amazon's AI? Ofc you haven't, it sucks) 2. Nvidia has the money to pull in any team.But just because you get 100 people from another company doesn't mean you'll produce the same product. Nvidia's leadership is trying to play catch up just like faang.
>>735147667people buy brand new gpus for thousands of dollars so they can get 100+ ms of input latency on upscaled and generated frames?I don't understand how it's possible for this stuff to be so shit
