It’s crazy to think this game came out 17 years ago
>>735128904Too bad it fucking sucked.
what's crazy about it? it's a jpg background
>>735128904Crazy to think you used a 1280x800 screenshot of it. I barely played this shitball.
>>735129262It’s a ‘eck screenshot
It really just shows how far games have regressed.
What game
>>735128904Lack of cohesion between the art team and the writers.It happened in many game, especially recently.One example would be Mass Effect Andromeda, visually good, dogshit writing.
>>735129720>visually goodWe've gone too far with the accessibility settings in vidya, now even actual BLIND people can play them.
>>735129628Moms Are Tough 2
>>735128904literally just a corridor
>>735130932When you go into a museum do you complain all the rooms are rectangles? When you read a book do you complain you turn from page 1 to 2?
XIII trilogy is still a FAR superior Final Fantasy experience than any of the slop Squeernix has pushed out since then.
>>735131983Funny how this foliage not only looks better than FF7 Rebirth's, but ALL of the recent games.
>>735132618Because it's green.When's the last time you saw a rich green for foliage?For me it was KDC2 which incidentally has some really nice looking plantlife.
>>735132670When they actually cared about making believable worlds, and not just generate one out of their sloppa engines with same colors and textures
>>735129243..but enough about FF7 (2020)
>Hey Michael>yeah?>Try to go right>I ca- I can't go right>hey Michael>yeah>try to go left>I....can't go left
>>735132727>FFXIII>Believable worldwhat are you smoking?FFXIII is not believable, it's incredibly fantastical. That's got nothing to do with why it still looks good.
>>735130025And sexy.
>>735132795Right, "good looking fantastical worlds" wouldve been better
>can't switch characters in battle>tutorial is hours long>no MP>STR and MAG are the only statsThis game felt like it could be an IOS game at the time.
>>735128904Pic related also came out 17 years ago.
I'm so tired of seeing posts like "omg how did this game come out in (insert year here)", do people think people in the past didn't know how to make things look good? I see the same shit applied to animation, can't wait to see posts like "omg how does this movie made in 2020 look so good"
>>735133501>do people think people in the past didn't know how to make things look good?They don't.Remember:kids born in 2007 are now 18 years old. They were born surrounded by slop like Minecraft, Fortnite, and now the Unreal 5 slop that requires Ryzen 9x3D + RTX 5080 to run at 1080p 60fps, native, all while having all sorts of bloom + blur + noise artifacts.In general, younger folks of any era have hard time swallowing the idea that some things might've been honestly BETTER before their time. Nobody wants to live in the end of Roman Empire times, but be the gold-standard pinnacle.
>>735133501It's because we still use past graphics advancement as the standard like the jump from the PS1 through PS3but game graphics obviously aren't advancing that rapidly anymore so it's a surprise when a 10+ year old game looks so good. Like MGS5 is 10 years old but MGS1 was 10 years old when 4 came out
>>735133764>>735133802People have bizarre logic though by which they'd be baffled at the existence of Renassaince paintings
>>735128904it's music is probably the best in the series, about the only redeeming quality and i suppose the graphics are good
>>735133928idk if it's logic as much as they've literally just never encountered anything better than the dominant current year low quality
>>735128904that's a pre-rendered background, you're not fooling anyone
Yeah...
>>735133928It's not the same thing dumbo
hallway simulator?
>>735134149Yeah it is when they don't distinguish between technology and art
>>735128904Too bad the real level is a straight line
17 years and they've only managed to push out three more numbered FF games. Insane to think about
>>735133501The point isn't that they're impressed by older games' visuals (though they are) but that the standards have been intentionally degraded so that games look worse despite being less performant on stronger hardware with larger budgets. They're trying to push standards back up.
>>735134090You're telling me prerendered backgrounds good?
Why cant we get an FF mmo with graphics like the modern mainline games? FFXIV looks so horseshit. Surely technology has advanced enough for at least FFXIII grafix
Is this Claire thread?
>>735136297Yes. 40gb of cutscenes not so much.
>>735128904Polished turd is still a turd
>>735136256Nah, I'm talking about the general idea that people find it impossible that something from the past could look better than something newer
>>735136406Filling this eclair with cream
>>735136516They don't, autistic retard
>>735128904Not really. They made plenty of gay shit for autistic manchildren back then too.
>>735128904crazy to think about how fucking bad it is
>>735128904>17 years later and i still dont understand what cocoon wasIm not the only one after all these years that thinks the scale is completely off right? If its big enough to be a mini planet, why does it look like its inside Pulse's atmosphere?
>>735136626Very far away
>>735128904Good looking game but that's about it. Looking back, this is the moment when FF lost all of its relevancy.
>>735136626Great, I'm not the only one wondering how the fuck things were connected in there
>>735136297The problem with prerendered backgrounds is they're made for specific resolutions, and not very futureproof. Even with static camera angles, a modern game should have fully 3D environments to avoid it looking super janky like Square or Capcom games of the PSX era.>>735136626Cocoon was a really awesome movie with Wilford Brimley.
>>735137259Just play in the native resolution?
>>735136693>when FF lost all of its relevancy.That was FF15. FF13 was a Star Wars prequel situation where everybody thought "Okay, maybe they can rebound on the next one. We can forgive them this time", but then FF15 killed all interest. It's actually an incredible achievement to burn out goodwill in a series like Final Fantasy.
Hope won...
>>735137415>Okay, maybe they can rebound on the next one. We can forgive them this timeReally? My thoughts were: if this is the type of game Square Enix is making these days then they're not making games for me.As a life-long final fantasy fan until that point, I swore to never play another Final Fantasy game again and never did.Can't say it is objectively the worst game I've ever played, because the graphical fidelity is impressive and the setting is interesting (it's the story, characters and gameplay which are the problems), but it is my least favourite game of all time and I imagine always shall be.Horrible, horrible game.
>>735128904Bad games come out every year. I don't care to remember them all
>>735137492You bet he did
>>735131983XIII was the start of the slop era. I'm not gonna let you rewrite history, this game was and is total ass and everyone knew it.
Is that a... FUCKING DATALOG ENTRY?
>>735128987fpbpthe only good thing to come out of it was Lightning getting Toblerone'd
>>735128904I don't understand why the writers felt compelled to write a plot about a self-righteous terrorist destroying a fantastical city. There's already been several games where that was a plot point.
>>735137597Art direction wise it was still kino. Still incredible looking at the time and still to this day 17 years later.
>>735137551Everybody thought FF13 was bad, but there was enough goodwill banked to hope they could redeem themselves. Little did people know that Square Peenix are spearheaded by out of touch waterhead boomer nips who think changing the beloved formula into DMCslop is what all the kids want (despite Persona selling millions with each release and keeping to the turn based formula).
>>735137659They actually force themselves to save said fantastical city despite their Gods ordering them to destroy it.
I just got the 4GB patch and installed FF13-2. Wish me luck.Finished 13 recently and it was okay. Didn't do the final half dozen C'ieth missions because the grind was mind numbing and it didn't open any new combat options anyway.Surprised it was a way harder game than usual for FF. Some bosses defeated me here and there.Also the crafting system is needlessly convoluted. Maybe to pad play time since the game ir more or less linear, despite having a somewhat long main campaign.It's kind trivial with guides, yes, but the grind of Gil and buying stuff is still excessive.
>>735137317The native resolution will still be scaled on any non-CRT monitor.>just use a CRTNo thanks. Modern games don't need prerendered backgrounds anymore. They were a crutch to show more detail than was possible in the 90s.
>>735136626It was a Dyson Sphere. More or less a space colony but the "surface" is turned inwards while its light source is at the center.
>>735128904and mogs modern crap games
>>735137893Are clouds/skyboxes supposed to look so ass in FF16 even on PS5? I thought mine were like that because of poor hardware.Also Sera makes my penis very hard, they tailor-made that body, god bless NTR-addict Toriyama.
>>735137882I get that, but it looks like its the size of a moon but yet still inside of pusles atmosphere? Our moon couldnt fit inside our atmosphere.
is this another one of those 12 fps PS3 games? it looks kinda cool
>>735137724Did you ask everybody their opinion of 13 on launch?
>>735136641Very far away but seems to be visibly in front of the cloud cover with minimal desaturation
>>735136406god damn uncropped source?!
>>735138460it's Al...
>>735137998>our atmosphereFF doesn't take place on Earth.
>>735138580Laws of physics seem the same as ours
>>735137998I bet you could find better info on that in some Ultimania guide. They used those all the time to clarify and even retcon FF info.All I can say is Cocoon is close enough to Pulse so Ragnarok-VanilleFang can create that crystal pillar we see in the logo and prevent its fall.
>>735138520No... NO!!
>>735133764>webmDELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>735137597Nah, It really isn't as bad as people say.Not my favorite or anything, but seriously over-HATED.I personally picked it up for dirt cheap in the early 2010s, despite having heard all sorts of shit about it.The BEGINNING really didn't even try to prove all the bad claims about it wrong, but luckily, to my own surprise as well, the more I played, the more entertaining and hooking it became. It's not GOTYAY or best JRPG ever in any sense, but it's FAR from the "worst crap ever" -category. A solid 7/10 experience IMO.The sequels fixed, expanded and improved many things, especially pacing and gameplay. Up to you whether you like the direction they went with the plot and cast, but they're not hideous either. FF13-2 was simply fun, easily 8/10 at least, and made the OG feel like a tutorial and "chapter 1" of something bigger. However, LR I found to be an absolute BLAST, and easily my 2014's GOTY.
>>735136626>>735137998>why does it look like its inside Pulse's atmosphere?Because it practically IS.No, it's not even the size of a moon. It's literally smaller than the Tokyo city curled into a ball. You can legit SEE the other regions of the Cocoon in its skybox in some of the clearer regions.The Cocoon tribes literally were building a hugeass Machina arm to GRAB the floating ball and drag it down.>>735138086Rock solid 30fps at all times.Easy 60fps on an Intel i7-2600 + GTX 1050ti.
>>735140181It was supposed to be the ultimate JRPG tto define the PS3 era with countless others to follow (like what FF7 did). It flopped hard and it was trash. It literally killed FF. The hate is deserved imo.
>>735140924>It flopped hard and it was trash.Why are you lying on the internet?FF13 was literally the best selling game in the franchise at the time. The only reasons /v/ "hated" it was simply because it didn't follow the Open-World meme trend that Bethesda has started, which in hindsight was just sad.Sure, 13 had a lot of wasted potential, most likely caused by the game being changed from a PS3 exclusive into a multiplat, resulting shittons of content cuts and streamlining to even fit the thing on those 4 HD DVDs on the Xbox. From I can remember, what now is the end of the first game was merely meant to be the first chapter out of three.
>>735141216The first game is really long, though. Even with the long corridors meme, you take quite a while to finish it. There are a lot of cutscenes.13 was made in a time when it was somehow still acceptable to interrupt the gameplay even seconds after the last cutscene.
>>735133764uhhhh nvidia bros?? how could they do this without RTX path tracing???
>>735129262Lebreau...where did you go?
>>735129262lmao this looks like absolute dogshit
>>735128904ikr
>>735145225I see anything Witcher related and I immediately think of banana tiger.
What's crazy is how long the hype cycle was. People thought it was gonna come out *any year now* since 2005, websites would never stop talking about, thinking it was gonna be the next big thing in gaming.It finally drops after two eternities and it was garbage lmfao.
>>735128987
>>735137597You mean X
The hallway simulator makes it so your eyes can appreciate the set design how the developers wanted.
>>735134231The technology here is massively different one is far younger and has been advancing rapidly over the past several decadesIt's not just a matter of art
>>735128904Hope the remaster comes soon.
>saves your series
>make game series>never best your first entryOUCH!
>>735132786Yes, that is a background too. What is your point?
>>735128904That's a skybox. FF13 has very small areas with giant skyboxes. It's not that impressive.
I'm just here for vanille.
>>735128904The death of FF
>>73514121613 has shit characters, story, gameplay, and even music. it was hated for good reason. xbox was getting way better jrpgs than this shit before it even came out
>>735161548>hates FF13 musicI'll fucking kill you.
and its still garbage
>>735128987FPBP.>>735128904>Only there for two hours maximum>Never see Cocoon beyond the opening and closing hours.>90% of the game is on the fucking planet below it which has nothing but monsters on it because of a grand calamity
>>7351379382D hand drawn skyboxes > low res volumetric cloud simSame as it ever was. Volumetric clouds have their uses, obviously. Flight games, fog and so on, but if you're never going to go near them 2D sprites + some particle effects look way better. Current hardware isn't powerful enough to render detailed terrain and high res volumetrics, so when devs need to hit framerate targets volumetric clouds are the first thing to be cut back. How often are you gonna be looking at the sky anyway?Somehow the question of whether the game needs volumetric clouds in the first place never gets asked.
