what went wrong?
>>735135132Feminism finally got to Japan. It's joever
where's cia?
There's too many cutscenes breaking up my mindless killing
>hole in the four-by-five character select screen where Sonia would be>you can see her as a CPU in the early missions and even do Sync Strikes with her>second bow character when the game only has one>never added through updates, total roster stuck at 19My only gripe, everything else is pure kino.
No one boughted
The generics are better than the main cast, except for Robit Link and Calamo, who are kino (along with Quino).
>The whole point of TOTK is Ganondorf returning (with a great new design at that) >Musou based on TOTK >Ganondorf isn't playable????? Literally what the fuck were they thinking? Were they DLC baiting and then got support funding rugpulled post release? There is simply no reasonable explanation for Ganondorf not being playable.
>>735135132botw fatigue
I bought the BOTW hyrule warriors the day it came out and still haven't even turned it on once because game of the decade came out the same week
>>735138028>Ganondorf is completely absent aftet he kills Sonia until the end of the game
>>735135132>Make an entire spinoff to unfuck the dogshit nonsensical plot you wrote for your main game>Write a plot were nothing happens except for a bunch of literally whos flopping about ineffectively for hours on endThe actual game was also much worse than than AoC, it was more polished but the appeal to AoC was how creative they got with the various characters. In this game, everyone just kinda felt the same, which is to say like a worse version of the not-Link robot, who was insanely flexible and broken.In the end the only good thing about this was Mineru getting more screentime.
>>735135132i have chronic breath of the wild fatiguenobody cares about any of these nothing characters
>Main issue with TOTK is it's shit story and how bad Ganondorf is compared to the other games>Fix none of that but instead make the lore worst >Totk still have a shit cast so there's no character you want to play outside of Zelda and Rauru (and Sonia but she isn't playable lol)Even OG Hyrule Warriors had a Ganondorf side story.
>ZELDA AVENGERS, ASSMEBLE!cringe
>>735140334Ganondorf section is the best part too.>subjecting monsters and treacherous ass subordinates>beating the Triforce of Power out of Lana>kicking Link and Zeldas asses
>>735135132Female Gerudo hero wasn't goonable enough.
>>735135253How so? Zelda gets a magic wand/sword to kick evil butt, but she gets less story focus than the king and Robo-Link.
>>735142851What about the two Gerudo commoners?
>>735135132>Make a story where nothing happens other than kill enemies in one area, repeat>Market Zelda as the main character for the trannies that have been begging for it>You can bench her for the whole game because this game is actually about Rauru, Construct Link and Calamo thankfully.>Still nothing really happens other than kill enemies in one area, repeat>Make TOTK about Ganondorf, who sat in a cave the whole game of TOTK, yes AOI, time for more ganondorf>Made it about Ganondorf sitting in a castle for the whole game, gets like 5 minutes of screentime and a goofy ass line about him bunking with his buddies Rauru for 6 months that you see nothing of.>Add all of these new oc characters, couldn't bother to give them scenes to make you even care a little.>Maps are uninspired and saving on cost, the music for the main maps are literally battle for the Forest, Volcano, Wetlands, etc. AOC had awesome maps based on actual structures and towns.AOC was fucking awesome from start to end and I really wanted a follow up on that timeline, not this gay story without Link or the Champions. Knight Construct and Calamo were the only redeeming factors, they even got the final boss which is hilarious and rightfully shits on lame ass Zelda, but makes ganondorf even lamer unfortunately.
>>735138028Playing through the game myself, I came up with a hypothesis: his personality doesn't mesh with the "character sync" gimmick. Someone on the game probably couldn't imagine Ganondorf clapping hands or bumping fists with his enemies for greater power, even while pretending to be their pal. I imagine that once syncing was set in stone, he was never going to be playable.Unless someone sees that'd be an incredibly silly reason to keep him an NPC and let him play like any other character, he'd either have to get solo DLC missions where he can't sync with anyone, or a unique gameplay gimmick in place of syncing.
>>735135132>hey remember that Zelda musou with a whole shitload of characters and that sexy brown villain chick>now you can play it with a bunch of nobodies that you don't care aboutI wonder what could have possibly gone wrong.
>>735143565AoC was fucking garbage and a huge step down from HW before it.
>>735135132People are fucking sick of this iteration of Hyrule, and they certainly weren’t going to fix those sentiments with a Musou full of glup shittos no one cares about.
>>735143817Sync Strikes between Dorf and regular monsters/minibosses. Imagine a Bokoblin Captain doing an attack with Ganondorf, it would make his day.
the story in totk is not interesting so any sort of lore expansion is just boring
>>735135132It wasn't Hyrule Warriors 2. Literally just make the first game with more shit and less unpleasant bosses. That's all anyone wants.
>>735138074What game is this?
>>735144585The original HW had the best character of the entire Legend of Zelda series playable. Everything else would always be a step down.
>>735145013It's a tough ask to care about the sages when they don't even have names or faces in TotK.
>>735143565That final battle against the evil construct was massively DIMES and I popped during the finale when the main Zelda theme comes in as Robot Link deals the final blow.Their entire arc was cinema. It had more catharsis than the "main" characters and I genuinely felt sad for Calamo losing his bud.
>>735145363Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin
>>735138698not-Kotake and Koume also vanish for the rest of the game after Linkbot saves the other Gerudo from them. They don't even return for the big clash of the armies at the end.
>>735145302Aonuma would rather see the Zelda series crash and burn than stop forcing BotW down everyone's throats. He finally got to make his own mark on the series after just being Miyamoto's gopher for almost two decades, he's not going to let that go. That said mark is a shitstain is inconsequential to him, or rather, he's too deluded to acknowledge it.
>>735145673*Fujibayashi
>>735145404Yeah, it's a shame she'll never come back for another game. Goddamn, Cia really is the best character in the entire Legend of Zelda series.
>>735145732This makes no sense btw. Calamo roots himself on the spot where their fight ended, which was in the burnt remains of the korok forest. Then the ending shows a timelapse as the forest regrows around him.
wait this game is out already?
>>735145732>>735145568>You were the best friend a guy could ask for, bud>It's time we end our journey... together
>>735145959Something related to Tears of the Kingdom doesn’t make sense? That’s a real surprise.
>>7351351322 HW games were enough for me to grew tired of musouslop
>>735145959The Ancient Sump location matches the end very well. The side of Death Mountain we see, other peaks in the distance are angled as if you're looking from southwest of the Ancient Tree stump. The battle definitely isn't in the charred remains of Deku Forest, but a rocky area on the outskirts of Hyrule field.
>>735145568If you think about it, the last boss was basically Robot Dark Link.That and the things you mentioned made the Wild era feel like old-school Zelda again.
>>735135132I actually hate how stunted the AI is in this game. You can tell they tried to make this game more casual for people who wanted a canon playable zelda game. You boot up the first mission on AOC on Very Hard or Apoc, you will fucking die at least once or twice. The damage output in this game is so low from enemies and their AI is retarded, the Chu Chu boss in AOI vs the one in AOC is a fucking laugh. You would get dogpiled in AOC on harder difficulties, but they took out that edge and it's all been smoothed out and casual to the point where when there is more than one boss enemy, they will target other allies instead of 1v3ing you like AOC.
>>735138074shit, that made me smile
>>735135132I liked the game fine, but I hate that they did the "mainline game has barebones story that only gets expanded on in the Warriors game, go buy that if you want more story" and I've been sick of the BOTW era for a couple years now
>>735146317It’s easy to lose track of where they are because all the flight transitions means the battle is happening across all of Hyrule They started near korok forest they didn’t end up there
I just want more ruto
I think the big problem is the past segments in TOTK don't actually leave a lot of room for additional shit. So most people aren't even curious about this.
>>735145460They also share 90% of their voiced lines in the scenes they do appear in in TOTK, so they are barely even separate characters.
>>735151778I did think it was neat to have to such that while the sages are having their final battle all the other ocs are holding the line so that his army doesn’t interfere
>>735151558I always felt like the fight ended on that little "island" northeast of Hyrule Field and directly east of where Hyrule Castle ought to be, but screenshots comparing the ancient stump and AoI's ending seem to line up.
>>735135132Tears of the kingdom wouldve been way more interesting if it was Link being sent to the past instead of Zelda.
>>735135132man i want to be zelda
>>735135132Terrible roster
Why is there no adventure map like in hyrule warriors
>>735159006Replaced with the soulless, sterile side missions.
>>735138074>Men only want one thing and it's disgusting
>>735135132is this game actually canon or is it an age of calamity situation
>>735162732Yeah, it’s canon, things play out exactly as you expect and everyone agrees its safer for the world if they just don’t record any evidence that the original characters ever existed into the history books.
>>735162732What does Canon even mean for Zelda, totk and botw are two different origin stories that also aren't the skyward sword origin story
>>735163280Not AoC’s divergent everyone lives because of time travel timeline
the game is fine, it has a lot of qol changes from AoC but the characters play styles are a lot less interesting. i don't care about the story. the combat is much easier in AoI than AoC due to how broken zonai devices are, they are still both better than the original HW in terms of actual gameplay though. if AoC had a 60fps patch it would be far and away the best game in the series and a top 5 musou of all time
>>735162732TotK isn't even canon to BotW, who fucking cares
I have 100% in DE, but haven't bothered with the other two. Are they worth it?
>>735164183Isn't that like 500 hours
>>735164183AoC is great but only 30fps and barely runs on switch 1. on switch 2 it runs much better but still 30 fps. AoC is the peak of the series in terms of schmovement and combat though, it feels like a dmc game at times
>>735164183You get the Hyrule warriors 1 costume for Link for doing it in AoC, and fire emblem warriors style support convos for doing it in AoI
>>735145302Fucking this
>>735164369yeah, probably more
>>735135132It peaked with the original Hyrule Warriors.I liked BOTW, but I think it's lingering too long. I want a new Zelda with new visuals and characters.
>>735153362A Link to the past you say? That would never work
i think that omega force needs to move onto a different nintendo ip for their next crossover warriors games. calamo felt like them testing out smaller body types in this game so i could see a kirby warriors or something happening
>>735135132No sex with Mineru
>>735165052Understood, please look forward to us announcing a warriors spinoff for Fire Emblem Fortune’s Weave
>>735165052We'd probably never get it, but I think Pokémon Warriors would work very well.
>>735165052kirby does have a lot of weapon users it would probably work really well. meta knight, d3, bandana dee, marx, daroach, susie etc would all be fun af in a musou
>>735165205I really hate that, I want franchise celebrations and not more spin off / sequel / prequels, I would love a FE Heroes Warriors or something like that, a proper FEW 2 but you know they are already making that FW sequel.
>>735135132No Playable Ganondorf, I figured it would be post launch so I held off on buying it but I guess he’s never gonna be on the official roster unlike the last two games.>>735138028Pretty much hit the nail on the head right here, how do you make a musou WITHOUT THE BIG BAD PLAYABLE!?
>>735153362>>735164952>link to the pastdead on arrival
>>735165379i don't mind the spin offs, but i'd like them to alternate between them and the celebration games. sort of like when they used to do warriors orochi games
>>735163689>if AoC had a 60fps patch it would be far and away the best game in the series and a top 5 musou of all timehow do i get into playing aoc?i have it on emulator but it just seems like... 90% of the game is mash attack until generic mob thins out
>>735165625the mob combat is massively de-emphasized in the HW franchise in general, its almost entirely boss fights. its always been easy to clear mobs in these games but with the break system, perfect parries and perfect dodges the boss fights can be really dynamic. in AoI its even further removed to the point where you almost never need to clear waves at all and can just beeline boss enemies.
>>735165765i think it's weird how your finisher is... a block of ice.
>>735165625musou games are all about mindset, its about chasing those rare weapon unlocks and building up your characters with light rpg systems as you progress and they all have lengthy postgames and replayability for the most part. also you should always play on high difficulty settings because it makes the game far less of a steamroll
>>735165625Turn up the difficulty to hard, go up to very hard if your daring, this will incentivize you to build weapons, characters and use weaknesses to your advantage. Just beware divine beast missions are very difficult anything above hard mode. Use Links 3 movesets and build 3 other characters you also like.
>>735145302I want them to make other crossover musous but GOOD (IE don't wank the 2 most recent releases like FEW)kirby musou is a slam dunk for how many copy abilities he has, all the generic mooks and one-time villains-turned-allies
>>735135132I want to fuck that rabbit(?)
>>735167808mineru is a weirdly sexy goat lady who is barefoot the whole game
If I can't pirate it, it doesn't exist.Simple as.
>>735165765>game can fit more enemies on screen than almost any musou ever>you never really get to clear out huge mobssad
>>735170257brown
Wake me when they make the REAL Hyrule Warriors 2
>>735173010ngl another fanservice HW game with the improvements to combat and the single player mode from the Age of games would be excellent
>>735135367Ganondorf not being playable is doubly retarded.
>>735138746>The actual game was also much worse than than AoC, it was more polished but the appeal to AoC was how creative they got with the various characters. In this game, everyone just kinda felt the same, which is to say like a worse version of the not-Link robot, who was insanely flexible and broken.Pretty much my issue, it felt so fucking samey to play as different characters. Like only Mineru scratches the itch AoC character movesets scratched. Also the Sheikah slate counters were far better implemented than the special moves/zonai device system which regularly ended with you having to constantly menu dig to avoid having to fucking fine tune your shortcuts every time you encountered an enemy whose counterable attack wasn't of a type you had on a shortcut. Hell even stasis lock didn't feel as abusable as zonai device spam which is the dullest yet most effective way to play.
>>735173458There’s four kind of counters I just made everyone have the same kind of counter in the same direction universally, with zonai devices to fill in the gaps
