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I'm tired of the dual wield rogue and either sword and board or twohander warrior cliches.
What games let you either play a single blade duellist or give you build-defining advantages if you leave your off-hand empty?
Examples of what I'm talking about:
Dishonored - a short sword in your hand, gadget or a spell in the other.
Skyrim - same as the above, sword-dagger in one hand, spell in the other.
DOS 2 (but not 1) - leaving your off-hand empty lets you take the ambidextrous talent that reduces ap cost of all your scrolls, it's a niche playstyle, but very powerful.
Kotor 2 (but not 1) - single saber Shien duellist is a top 3 strongest build because of the way the game scales strength and crit multipliers.
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Rogue is a class with a heavily-ingrained kind of cliche and stereotype within the class fantasy.
You could try some sort of multiclassing like a Fighter leaning a little into the Rogue side. This really depends on the system and game, it's hard to pinpoint an universal answer.
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>>735140552
nice chocolate slut
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>>735140552
I'm pretty sure NWN 1-2 let you do something about it, other D&D CRPGs would, most likely, too.
In Grim Dawn you can take melee weapon in main hand and caster off-hand (book, runebone etc) - all combat will be handled by main hand weapon, off-hand appliance wlll just give you stats/skillpoints/damage conversion (and nobody prevents you to, say, take a flashbang grenade skill on your second class (or just use a skill from enchant upgrade item) to larp as spellblade extraordinare.
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>>735140969
I forgot about Grim Dawn caster off-hands, played it many years ago, good idea, thanks.
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I remember Pathfinder had an archetype for one-handed / empty off-hand duelists, not sure if that was included in Kingmaker/WotW.

>>735140760
Thanks ChatGPT.
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>>735141162
Duelist is a advanced class iirc, meaning you have to take specific feats and levels of another class first before you can level into it but yeah it exist in WotR
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>>735141162
>>735141201
Duelist is a prestige class but you already have a Fighter archetype that already plays very similar to it, although it's tied to using one specific type of weapon. Somethingsomething Defender IIRC.
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bg3 has a fighting style and a few weapons that support a duelist type character.
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>>735140552
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Duellist's_Prerogative
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>>735141648
>>735141802
Haven't had time to get around to BG3 yet and this is perfect, thanks.
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That’s like asking why action-based RPGs don’t have dedicated crossbow classes like they do for regular bows. You’re looking for a style of combat that had very situational uses and wasn’t suited for all-purpose warfare.
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>>735142059
Know any games that let you play with rapier and dagger?
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>>735140552
Anon you are my brother
The only games I've found thus far are the pathfinder ones and a few VR games.
A lot of action RPGs are playable even if you leave your shield slot empty but that's not what you asked I suppose.
Oh wait! In Astlibra your shield counts towards your weight total, which reduces your attack speed. I beat that game without using one.
I'll be monitoring this thread.
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>>735140552
>I'm tired of the dual wield rogue and either sword and board or twohander warrior cliches.
I'm not.
Now what?
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>>735144350
now we duel to the death
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I just like the idea of a class that's a guy with a knife, that isn't focused around sneaking or stealth or whatever but just likes stabbing a lot.
In morrowind I make a class that specs into hand to hand + short blades, then I punch enemies until they fall down, then I stab them until they don't get up.



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