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Call me crazy but I think this is pretty cool actually.
To be clear, the implementation in these first several games is AWFUL.
But imagine the potential of something made from the ground up with this in mind, using an updated version of this thing 10 years in the future. Could genuinely be amazing for something like a VR game, maybe the basis for photorealism and FDVR.

I don't think this is good for most types of games. But for some it might be a game changer. And I have to say, seeing this tech run in real-time on a GPU is very impressive.

I think people's reaction to this is too emotional and lacking in foresight. Keep in mind that you don't need to turn on this feature in games today. Though I do concede there is a concerning possibility that devs get lazy and don't make the regular raster version look good enough, and just tell you to turn on the AI filter (lol). Such devs should obviously be criticized.
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it's mindblowing how epsteinlike that one guy is
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I don't know what DLSS is.
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>inb4 shill
I'd never use this in games today and think it should have stayed in development for several years longer. And that it shouldn't just be put on top of existing games, Jesus Christ.
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>trying to generate AI shit for both eyes in VR with full consistency
you'll be waiting a long fucking time
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>Call me crazy but I think this is pretty cool actually.
>To be clear, the implementation in these first several games is AWFUL.
>But imagine the potential of something made from the ground up with this in mind, using an updated version of this thing 10 years in the future. Could genuinely be amazing for something like a VR game, maybe the basis for photorealism and FDVR.
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>I don't think this is good for most types of games. But for some it might be a game changer. And I have to say, seeing this tech run in real-time on a GPU is very impressive.
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>I think people's reaction to this is too emotional and lacking in foresight. Keep in mind that you don't need to turn on this feature in games today. Though I do concede there is a concerning possibility that devs get lazy and don't make the regular raster version look good enough, and just tell you to turn on the AI filter (lol). Such devs should obviously be criticized.
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>>735143540
"new" technology that is being shoehorned in nvidia graphics cards to increase their price. The only thing it does is that it runs the game through a AI filter to "improve graphics" by making everything into AIslop
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Could it work for remaking the original half-life 1?
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>>735143461
So you just want photorealistic graphics?
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>>735143602
I'm poortuguese not indian :(
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>>735143626
>>So you just want photorealistic graphics?
no
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>>735143461
What we're seeing is a coordinated attack by paid AMD shills.
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>>735143626
For VR yes
For regular games no
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I agree with you OP, but people are stupid.
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>>735143671
I understand the backlash tbqh
I don't understand what was going through Nvidia's mind to show it in this state and on those games
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>>735143671
+0.5 Nvidia credits have been added to your account.
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As long as there's an option to not use those default AI slop faces it could have a lot of potential.
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>>735143671
Jensen pls
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Slice pajeet throats with a dull knife.
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Customizing filters will give marketing departments more control than artists. In the case of Capcom, with it's proudly tranny first policies, this means the company will almost certainly be broke by the end of 2027.
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>>735143743
>>735143782
>>735143792
>AMD does something..
1 or 2 threads in a day , none ever reaching thread limit
>Nvidia does something..
10 threads at once. Same comments. same repeating images, same seething, all day every day
It happens every time Nvidia does something. 4090 , 5090 release, DLSS release , Ray tracing release etc.
It certainly isn't organic
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>>735144529
>AMD is 2% of the market
maybe that's why
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>>735143461

Contrarians saw everyone hating it and are working full time to make sure everyone knows they totally like the ai slop filter
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>>735144673
AMD is the poorfag market. This is the perfect place for them
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>>735143461
>the potential
There's that word again
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>>735145027
poorfags buy last gen/used RTX
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>>735143461
The biggest problem is that it changes already established characters. Like with Grace for example if the "DLSS version" was just the character from the start there wouldn't be a problem but it becomes a problem because suddenly she isn't the same person any more.
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>>735143461
You're not crazy, you're progressive
You're a person who believe in science and logic over superstition
Ai is not our enemy, it will help us achieve immortality and eternal peace
Have fate in ai and the people who're working so hard to make it better
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>>735143461
>something made from the ground up with this in mind
sorry, this game requires DLSS5 so you can see the graphics. this will cost you 2 GPUs or a Cloud Gaming subscription thank you very much goyim
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>>735143461
>But imagine the potential of something made from the ground up with this in mind, using an updated version of this thing 10 years in the future.
You don't have to imagine.
DLSS 1 through 4 = devs have disregarded optimisation.
DLSS 5 = devs will disregard optimisation AND art direction.
This crap is running on 2 RTX 5090. Do you honestly think it will be optimised when it will run on your 5060/5070?
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>>735143461
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>>735146530
Which one would you rather have in your porn game?
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>>735143461
>people's reaction to this is too emotional and lacking in foresight
The rising price of ram isn't emotional or lack of foresight. It's pure and simple math.
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>>735143540
Neither does Nvidia. It is now a catchall marketing term for anything they want to sell you
Reminder they aren't trying to sell this because they think you want it. They're trying to sell this because the US government already funded it as an AI development initiative. They are committed to this development path, it is already paid for and now they HAVE to force it into your games, even though they know it looks shit, even though they know you don't want it
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>>735143461
It's promising in that now retarded upper management can lower the cost of development while middle management can stop overhiring pajeet who under delivered everything. Just white men and women having the best time of their life developing a game.
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>>735146851
crying about it is
you already have ram, why are you sperging out
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>>735145480
>progressive
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>>735143461
good morning saar
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>>735145328
Uglified/homely/desexualized/scanfaced "characters" have no identity worth preserving
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>>735143461
this looks like shit nigger
nvidia is either demented or being held at gunpoint for even having the courage to post this publicly
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>>735145328
>she isn't the same person any more
literally the same number of polygons and same textures. you're mentally ill from being terminally online for so long, incel. you don't know how lighting works because you're in your basement all day.
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>>735149087
polygons and textures are not part of the input sent to the AI slopifier, according to Nvidia's own explanation
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>>735147679
This jeet doesn't have the foresight for simple economy.
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>>735146530
Grace hit the wall
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>>735143461
You might just be a facist bro. I'm not saying this as an insult but people with facist leanings don't really understand art and in videogames often fall for the realism meme because of how their brain is wired.

This stuff all looks objectively bad by every rule of art theory and at worst looks like ai porn models. There is no ma, no mise-en-scene, no care or intent. Its spackle filling up the cracks where humanity should be. Its asbestos for the soul and a boot on the throat of human spirit and should be destroyed and forgotten. You might not understand why but the things you enjoy will get actively worse because it teaches the people making it not to think which is even worse than the current risk evasion already making it hard for fresh ideas to get any shots at going into production.
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>>735150440
>people with facist leanings don't really understand art
good bait
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I just don't like AI.
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>>735143461
I don't call you crazy because it's already fucking good. Grace's face under dlss 5 is better by far.
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>>735150239
damn brat...!!!!
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>>735143461
I agree, I just don't understand why Nvidia would showcase this in its current form. If generative AI ever climbs its way out of the uncanny valley, this tech will be the future. Right now it's prototypical AI slop.
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>>735143461
I'll admit I can tolerate it for most western games for example because the characters in those games already look generic and soulless already, you have no attachment to their design especially when they're random NPCs, so making them higher fidelity didn't hurt. It's when they completely change the appearance of characters people fell in love with like Leon and Grace, and essentially had AI decide what they look like rather than the artist, is what's disgusting.
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>>735143461
All it's doing is making games more photorealistic, at the cost of the entire economy apparently. I'm not buying another Nvidia product.
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>>735143540
Was previously used to enhance graphic fidelity with less resources by casting an illusion, but now also puts a soulless AI filter over characters' faces and makes them look completely different for the sake of supposed realistic lightning.
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>>735143621
kek
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>>735143461
Reminder that nvidia has a history of paying individuals to shill and astroturf their shit in online forums.
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>>735151651
source?
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>>735143461
I'm indian as well and I agree.
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>>735151765
They have been doing it for decades now, they contract marketing firms that subcontract individuals to promote their products in online communities.
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>>735143621
wtf, why would they make Leon look like a 17 year old boy with the filter on? He's supposed to be an older man here. Clearly Nvidia doesn't give a single fuck about artistic integrity of the source material
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GOOD MORNING SAARS
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>>735143461
if this was a mod for skyrim I would think it was cool
the fact this will be industry standard for AAA slop is what fills me with a renewed sense of apathy towards AAA slop
I suppose at the end of the day, I really don't care very much, it won't hugely affect me.
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>>735144529
Maybe Nvidia should stop doing stupid shit.
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>>735143671
>AMD shills
I see way more Nvidia shills than I ever do AMD.
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>>735153174
>I like something. I don't care if you use it or don't like it.
>You dislike something. You want to stop me from using it.
See the difference. Crying fuck
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>>735143461
Why does it make the football players darker? Do you think they don’t show animation for more than 1s because of hallucinations?
https://youtu.be/S0X4-1eQ55Q
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Fix this please
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>>735150712
I mean it’s true. Even Hitler didn’t understand basic perspective.
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>>735147354
what's this from?
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>>735153702
Nazi aesthetics were extremely impactful, to deny that is insane.
And that isn't even getting into fascist Italy
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>>735143461
>I think people's reaction to this is too emotional and lacking in foresight
It doesn't look better, it's being sold to me as if it looks better
Nothing is getting more affordable
And I don't like being told what photorealistic is
And I don't prefer photorealistic graphics and never will
Not that these over exaggerated shadows are "photorealistic" anyways

That all said I agree with niche implementations of the technology, I would like if XOR conditions could be applied to render specific things in a specific way
For example if you want aliens or skinwalkers that trigger the uncanny valley response
Or in 40k the eldar have been described as moving in a strange way
Using AI to trigger the uncanny valley response with purpose would be cool
As it stands Nvidia is trying to shill slop like it's high art
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>>735154717
>It doesn't look better,
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>>735154717
>It doesn't look better
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>>735154806
>>735154910
>>735155007
I've always wanted to spend $10,000 on a pc so my games can look like Indian content farm slop.
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>>735155065
>I've always wanted to spend $10,000
That's the issue. It's that you're broke as fuck. It's bad because you don't have easy access to it. You'll never afford to use it until it trickles down to budget GPUs in 10 years.
Keep seething thirdy
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>>735154806
>tech retarded japs and bugthesda need AI for something other devs can do without needing AI
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>>735154806
>>735154910
>>735155007
yes, white people on the street don't look like instagram filtered models
sorry to burst your bubble
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>>735154806
>It looks better.
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>>735145083
The only comment made by a real human
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>>735155160
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>>735155160
oh look, it's the londonjeet
imagine working overtime defending this
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>>735155365
>you disagree with me so my script says to call you brown
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>>735155373
>londonjeet
?
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>>735154806
First of all grace is fine, if you've looked at any of Julia Pratt's model work, Grace's aesthetic quirks all capture hers
At least she doesn't look fucking terrible like Claire
>>735154910
Second of all you can apply anything to star field to make it better, even oblivionifying it to potato it harder so it doesn't look stupid
>>735155065
Imagine that, we don't get to own hardcopies, and soon according to AI fucks, we won't even need modeling departments in games
But games will still cost 70$ and rising
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>>735155505
the miserable nvidia shill from london that cries about everyone that doesn't have a 5090
londonjeet
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>>735155227
Don't they? Women don't wear makeup in your saharan village?
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>>735155160
Trolling belongs on /b/ my guy
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>>735155227
So video games have to be maximally realistic is what you are saying?
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>>735155564
You mean you're in every tech thread crying about things you can't run? Don't you get sick of being a loser?
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>>735154806
>>735154910
>mogged by a random roman character from 13 years ago
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>>735155564
>Nvidia refuses to make new cards for consumers
>People inexplicably upset
We're not upset at the cost explicitly, we're upset that there's a few options and all of them are all in on producing shit for data centers
And at the cost of taxpayers
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did you know that videogames are made out of other things besides faces
crazy I know
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>>735155679
FIRE VOLLEY
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>>735150729
Woah, watch it buddy. Some Indians here might call you poor for saying that.
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>>735155673
do you get paid for all the nvidia cocksucking?
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>>735155227
Grace looks like a clay wax model in the original image so what exactly is your point? If you don't want photo realism fine, just say it. I don't even necessarily want most games to go that photo realistic route but your rational is pretty damn dumb.
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>>735155893
If you think you know me. How come you enter all the threads with a subject you dislike?
I'm not even close to London by the way.
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It fixes Forza.
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>>735153559
>I dislike something. I don't want to be forced to use it

Cease your jewry
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>>735156062
Who is forcing you to use anything?
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>>735143461
>imagine the potential of something made from the ground up with this in mind
yes, imagine making a game with “a coat of AI paint will fix it” in mind as a design goal.
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i dont play any games made after 2000 so its not my problem
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>>735156056
Why did it smear vaseline all over those signs?
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>>735156146
>ai just doesn't improve over time. never has. there's no difference between ai now and ai from 4 years ago
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>>735155679
People shat on this game back then but it was graphically ahead of its time especially when it was on an underpowered PoS xbone.
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>>735155679
>it's bad because this one game from years ago runs on my potato and has nice textures
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>>735156012
why are you in every thread that's shitting on this ai slop then? can't stop sucking cock?
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>>735156197
consistency is never going to happen as AI interpretation varies wildly, leading to players experiencing eldritch horror faces while others get “good” faces in the same game
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>>735156337
>You go in too many threads
>which I also go in
Not the brightest spark are you?
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>>735146530
After looks more attractive to me by virtue of looking like an actual person. I know most of you guys aren't attracted to actual people though you prefer crudely drawn cartoon women with no features and 5 lines for a face recognizable only by their hair color.
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>>735156426
>how dare you notice i'm a soulless shill
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>>735156481
>just let me spend my life crying about new technology which I run
what a poor poorfag you are
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>>735143461
>imagine a slop being built from the ground up to be slop
No thanks. I already thought photorealism in games was boring as fuck and now they are going to look like internet spam.
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>735156474
Your bait sucks. Work harder if you want a (you).
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>>735156542
>just let me spend my life worshipping a corporation that ultimately wants to kill me
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>>735155679
This.
>>735156296
Stop hiring jeets.
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>>735143461
>NEW NEGROTECCH™ FECALOID FILTER MAKES EVERYONE LOOK 400% MORE THIRD WORLD
>"UHM CALL ME CRAZY BUT THIS IS COOL"
Shut the fuck up Jam Boy and go guzzle jew cock some more.
Now watch this drive.
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>>735156672
>they want to kill me
that's understandable. Useless idiots should be irradicated
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>>735156056
By changing the time of day and shitting street lights all over it?
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>>735156734
eradicated

typo
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>>735143461
Defend this. *uncorks cloaca*
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>>735156734
yes, they want you kill you
not a hard stretch, you're spending your free time defending soulless ai filters, you don't have any worthwhile skills
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>>735155382
kek
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>>735143461
yeah jeet, looks sick! Especially with the context this was demo'd on a PC setup with two 5090s!

I dunno jeet, consider suicide for being this stupid. I hear your local trains are pretty good at that.
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>>735156765
You lost!
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>>735155916
>People with smooth features and normalized lighting (it's overcast and most of the light is bouncing off of the concrete or matched by the grey sky
Look waxy
It doesn't help that the dlss off in the image looks like shit
Also They applied frame generation so everything looks creamy for no reason??
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>>735145083
kek this looks like a /dbs/ or shonenshitter meme
Good job
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>>735156296
>Missing the point that a well lit and well assembled game beats adding unnecessary details
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There's just no way that we could ever create realistic looking characters. We need AI, we do.
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>>735156474
>Real people are more attractive than fictional people
What the fuck? Do you know where you are?
And even if you dont, history is plagued with idealism vs realism
Realism is not better than idealism, it's not even worse, but if YOU prefer it just remember where you are
In fact just go to /s/
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Realistic graphics are simply impossible to create, think of all the big dogs like Bethesda and Square Enix who constantly pushed graphics to new heights, they're falling behind, AI is inevitable.
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I like how none of the people whining are posting Leon images anywhere.
Because they know it looks better.
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i dont want realistic looking humans in my video games
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>>735157334
looks like he's about to cry
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>>735157334
nah it added the same shitty studio lighting to him, just like for all the other characters.
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>>735157380
dont play games that focus on photorealism then.
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>>735157334
You've posted this on /g/ like 5 times now. It looks as shitty as everything else they showed off.
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>>735143461
>But imagine the potential of something made from the ground up with this in mind
That's the problem, you halfwit. Devs are already relying on DLSS to get around their dogshit optimization and fucking over gamers who can't afford top tier graphics cards. We're going to get even lazier, more broken, unoptimized slop because "it's ok just turn on DLSS5 with your two 5090s, bro"
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>>735157524
No its not, it looks good and people should be aware that it can look good
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Games looked photorealistic 12 years ago, why do we need AI filters now?
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>>735157532
Actually, $1,000 cards requiring fake frames and ai upscaling to reach 60fps is a GOOD thing. And if you disagree, then it means you're poor.
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>>735157647
why are you driving like a granny
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>>735157278
They're worse than impossible
They're unnecessary
FEAR runs on a potato but it has well thought out set pieces and lighting
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So let me get this straight, NVIDIA needed two 5090s to achieve Crysis 3 (2013) graphics?
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>>735157278
lmao when has bethesda ever been a pioneer in graphics development
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>>735157759
Why are you raceist?
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>>735157902
Crysis 3, Battlefield 1, NFS, SWBF2, all amazing looking without gaytracing, and ran smooth at the time too.
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>>735157647
line must go up
these forests ain't gonna burn themselves
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>>735157334
Does look pretty good to be fair. The only thing that might be questionable is the lighting relative to the scene. It looks like a spotlight or some car headlights are shining in his face which if there is it's fine but I don't think there is in actuality. Lighting in general seems to be a problem for it. Not that it's bad lighting, but it's often simply the wrong lighting.
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>>735158336
Forgot comparison pic
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>>735158336
>I agree with you. But because I'm a nit-picking twat I have to find something to complain about
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>>735157902
SAAR PLS DELIT
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>>735158427
>Stop pointing out the artefacts and just pretend it's perfect already!
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At some point, these threads are only fooling Nvidia's management and the people cutting checks to these engagement farms. Go get em tigers, keep up the good work
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>>735157902
11 years ago.
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>>735158605
DELIT THIS NOW SAAR TRUST THE AI!
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>>735158605
Did you enjoy shooting the tree?
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>>735158387
Who is the guy on the right
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>>735158705
Leon under questionable lighting.
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>>735143461
>Could genuinely be amazing for something like a VR game
That's the first use I thought of. Anyone who has played a recent AAA game with a VR mod knows how amazing it is. Realistic graphics make all the difference.
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>>735158760
Why is his face different, he looks Italian
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>>735154806
You’re like boomers with motion smoothing on their tvs saying either that they can’t tell the difference or that they prefer it.
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>>735158387
I love how it just blows up all the faces, 100% trained on shitty photos taken by phones.
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>>735158849
Looks believably close enough to me.
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We need AI for realism because... we just do okay???
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>>735156403
>consistency is never going to happen as AI interpretation varies wildly, leading to players experiencing eldritch horror faces while others get “good” faces in the same game
Have you never used AI gen before? You can use seeds, like with Minecraft world generation, to get the same result every time. AI has its issues but what you described is not one of them.
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>>735144529
>>AMD does something..
lol
lmao even
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>>735156128
nvidia, you fucking ape
if they didn't promote raytracing and upscaling they wouldn't be enforced and encouraged
look at requiem's raster settings and compare it to raster from 10 years ago
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>>735143461
>Call me crazy
Okay, you're crazy
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>To be clear, the implementation in these first several games is AWFUL.
based on what?
it's literally an objective visual upgrade. it makes every model look significantly more detailed and realistic while retaining the overall shape and appearance
why are pissbabies whinging about this again?
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>>735159265
>30₹ has been awarded to your nvidia account
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>>735154363
Ragnarok The Animation
Her story is fucked up all the way to the end, I believe. Actually, now that I think about it, this show was pretty dark.
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>>735143461
I'm sorry but the entire idea is fundamentally flawed. It takes even more control and intentionality away from devs and artists for something that will always look incredibly uncanny.
We really, genuinely, do NOT need hyper realism in gaming, and this ML stuff gets us absolutely no closer to better general solutions for lighting behaviors.
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>>735157212
I'm not arguing that AI nonsense is better than graphical authorship, I'm responding specifically to the taste some people have that less detail equals more attractive. Realism and idealism are not opposites by the way, you can have realistic representation of idealist subject matter. The after shot still represents a quite beautiful woman. Yes I know where I am I've been on this web site for 20 years and I still haven't been assimilated into the hivemind since I have the capacity for individual thought.
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>>735158605
how am I supposed to see anything on a 500kb 1080p jpeg?
it looks oversharpened and flat though
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>>735159265
>retaining
SAAAR
kindly
i know white people might look alike to you but that's not the word you should be using to describe it
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>>735143540
The original idea was to render something at a super low resolution and then have the GPU reconstruct the image at a high resolution.
This meant using less resources for comparable image quality. You know, cheaper for everyone in every sense, so a good thing.

DLSS 5 is an abomination that not even Nvidia knows who it is meant for.
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>>735158885
I'm sure it does Ranjesh
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>>735159360
>beloved korean MMO grindfest aimed at teens
>lets make a dark aniime with child molestation
what were they thinking
>>735159265
exaggerated lines and wrinkles isnt more detailed or realistic
its exagerrated
>while retaining the overall shape and appearance
appearance no, but at least in grace's case it makes her look more gaunt when she has kinda rounded cheeks
Or are you going to tell me the shadows are mysteriously a result of her non-round cheeks
which by the way isnt realistic
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>>735159583
Grace does look like a different person but Leon is far closer.
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>>735143540
It stands for Deep Learning Super Sampling and it's part of a family of upscaling techniques.
In a nutshell the idea for DLSS/FSR is that you can show a neutral network a game being run at two different resolutions and eventually it will be pretty good at building a quality high resolution image from a low resolution one. This lets you run a game at 1080 but render it at 4k with (hopefully) minimal loss in quality from native 4k.

DLSS 5 doesn't seem to be supersampling, though, it's some kind of fucked up transformer that takes in an image and some lighting cues from the engine and spits out a totally new frame.
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>>735158387
he looks emasculated lmao
i guess that's what you get when you train it on all the søyboys and metrosexual influencers
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>>735159628
Weird way to find out about your face blindness but better late than never, eh
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>>735159651
ok but why isnt it being used on shit that needs it
like PS1 games
I think RE9 looks great, why the fuck does it need crispier graphics
not that the previews are crispier because it just looks like the objects are more undistinct
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>everyone is talking about the faces
the background changes are what caught my eye
foliage actually has proper shadows and subsurface scattering
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>>735157334
>>735158336
>>735158387
it's not even the same person
you fags have to be trolling
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>>735159885
Why did we push pathtracing for half a decade then?
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>>735159921
The only difference is the lighting.
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>>735158387
>adds a pointless white hazy glow around him
Close enough, welcome back dall-e
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>>735159969
its literally AI anon
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>>735159921
the leon one is quite similar
the real problem is...why the fuck is this a feature that justifies completely shifting all production into AI development and upcharging [the cost of an entire consumer grade PC for]
it simply does not justify its cost or in the case of the fuckheads working on it, their paycheck
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>>735159470
is this meant to look bad?
>>735159621
she's an old woman, old woman have a lot of wrinkles
faces don't look like perfectly smooth blocks with 3 polygons in real life actually
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>>735159265
every single issue mentioned in this thread can be easily fixed
the main reason is because they needed two 5090s to run it

basically, sour grapes
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>>735159982
Now that you point it out he does have a halo. It's most obvious around the fur on his hood.
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>>735159942
Gaytracing hype has died down, need new thing to sell.
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Well shit. Is it too late to trade my 9070XT for a 5070?
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>>735160038
>grace is an old woman
???
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>>735156925
>even changed the street light from sodium to LED
pass
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>>735143461
TL;DR: SAAAR
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>>735159782
Do you mean DLSS or this new filter thing they're calling DLSS 5?
If the former you can absolutely use DLSS or FSR on old games but the point is typically to reduce system requirements so there's little point.
If you mean DLSS 5 it's because it's a fucked up AI filter that was trained for "realistic" graphics and would make a PS1 game look like a fucking nightmare
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>>735159942
because it was better than baked lighting?
you'll still need some sort of bounced lighting to feed the AI proper data, but it doesn't have to be as aggressive for realism anymore.
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>>735160038
it's meant to show there's no fucking consistency
those are supposed to be THE SAME PERSON you jeet
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>>735158605
It's never been as impressive as you fags think.
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>>735143461
Interesting input, time to ramp RAM prices
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>>735159265
>pissbabies
Back to bluesky you NIGGERFAGGOTKIKE!
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>>735160041
no, people are making fun of it because it looks like shit
it's as simple as that
sorry you're blind and/or have low IQ
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>>735144673
>"You have so much freedom on a PC"
>choses to whale the worst monopolies possible, ruining the whole industry
I have PoserCommunity fatigue.
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>>735159470
It's really funny when a random bit of an image winds up causing some weird fucking cascade in the model that makes it just reproduce a piece of training data
The first thing I said when I saw the thumbnail on YouTube was "why the fuck did it make her Aubrey Plaza"
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>>735160187
>If the former you can absolutely use DLSS or FSR on old games but the point is typically to reduce system requirements so there's little point.
meh i dont really care anymore
a good company can make a good game run well
bad comapnies peddle UE5 slop
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>>735160364
yes I'm sure those grapes are really sour, Mr. Fox
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>>735143461
This should not be advertised as DLSS or "the future of gaming". It's more adequate as an RTX Remix feature for old games.

This shit probably is pretty cool for older games like GTA 4, Fall Out New Vegas, Oblivion etc
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>>735160041
>can be fixed
Ah yes the Step 2 of AIslop: bring in an actual human with actual skills to fix whatever the fuck the AI hallucinated, which takes both more time and effort than doing the thing yourself
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>>735143461
Imagine a brutal fps with this technology. In VR.
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>>735160506
>This shit probably is pretty cool for older games like GTA 4, Fall Out New Vegas, Oblivion etc
It only works in any capacity because these games already have very high fidelity, the oblivion remake with 5 on is fucking hideous and I don't want to see what abominations this model would make of older games.
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>>735160639
Will it run Doom I wonder.
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>>735154806
so is she a blonde or a brunette with blonde highlights? fuck consistency I guess
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>>735143461
I'm so glad I've detached myself from all of this garbage, and I couldn't give less of a fuck about all of this triple A trash, UE 5 slop and AI sludge. been having fun with old games, indie games and AA stuff for years now and my backlog is getting bigger and bigger with them. fuck off forever
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>DUDE REALISM I LOVE REALISM
go outside you nigger
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>>735143461
Literally "fixed" meme.
Pretty based.
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>>735160621
VR is going to be so fucking good in a decade. And all the poors will still be seething.
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>>735160506
>RTX Remix feature for old games
Yeah, I think people's reaction wouldn't have been as negative if they admitted it completely changes the image and called it something new.
I fail to see how this is supposed to be a new iteration of DLSS when the philosophy is completely at odds with the original intent.
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>>735160108
I just assumed you were talking about harry potter
there's no way you're sperging about wrinkles over this
she's not a 12 year old child you fucking pedo gooner, what wrinkles are you even fucking talking about? normal human facelines?
>>735160205
and it looks like the same fucking person in different lighting
>>735159770
im actually laughing that you think the left looks better with its glitched eyes, shitty hair and decades old lighting
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>>735160856
>how the fuck is VR going to be improved by AI
theres only so many pixels on VR goggles last i checked
like congrats lol you upscaled twin 360p goggles up to... 1240p goggles
congrats!
we need a fluid, non pixel type screen or something and that might be the next big breaktrhough, is quantum/non discrete rendering
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>>735161004
>and it looks like the same fucking person in different lighting
lol
white people have no problem telling white people apart based on the most minor of characteristics
this was made for nonwhites
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>>735161004
everything from wrinkles to overly gaunt cheeks yes, i was talking about the entire video.
grace doesnt have sharp facial features, she doesnt need harsher shadows
thematically as well the lighting is rather drab and monotone because the game is supposed to start in a mundane way
you know, because the game is telling a story nad not trying to push some generic UE5 particle and lighting showcase

but even then i reiterate grace doesnt have sharp features
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>>735161010
In VR you get really up close to the textures, so even 4-8k textures can look quite bad. Plus we have headsets with 4k per eye now.
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>>735161004
>and it looks like the same fucking person in different lighting
bro
you're just having a laugh, right?
there's no way you truly think this
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>>735161246
you think they're kidding?
human facial recognition works best on people from your own race
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>>735161004
>and it looks like the same fucking person in different lighting
You are brown, you are a jeet, your whole family tree has eaten poop before.
Don't talk about white people looking the same ever again you dirty filthy smelly shit-colored face.
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>>735157775
>Graphics peaked with PS4
>PC has thrown away the console optimisation that used to move us forward
>Sony making FPS service sloppa day and date for PCs just resulted in Concord
Goldface WHIRR posters where right about everything. I kneel, send me up the butt.
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>>735161246
nope, he actually is unable to see the obvious difference because he's from a 3rd world country and isn't used to seeing white people
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>>735161079
youd think white people, with the most visually clear features, would be the easiest to distinguish namely as in DLSS 5's case, when you add previously nonexistent fucking lines/bags under the eyes
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>>735156056
kek it turned the other blue cars around so that theyre driving the wrong way and added in some garbage in the background, anyone who defends this shit is irredeemable
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>>735159470
Baby lips
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>>735161240
well i can see it working somewhat well for VR
but i dont and have never seen the need for upscaling
IIRC the most competitive players have extremely normalized and specific parameters for running their games
hell even melee (inb4 lmao groomers) pros play on classic CRTs
to which I say i genuinely dont see all this graphics fidelity being marketed to anyone but the kind of person who enjoys Horizon zero dawn or The Last of Us
which is to say people who rebuy games over and over simply because it supposedly looks better, all while not giving a rats ass about playing the damn game
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>>735161594
it's eye liner anon. Don't have a stroke.
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>>735161597
that's not even a real image you moron
holy shit the IQ on this website has dropped over the years.
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>>735161764
>eyeliner
>on the cheek
if you dont know what the fuck youre talking about why do you keep talking with so much confidence
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>>735161763
You sound bitter because other people enjoy different things and have different priorities.
They aren't removing anything from you. Why are you bothered so much by it?
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>>735161859
>shadow
Do you ever go outside or see other real people?
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>>735155007
Literally looks like a badly done head swap in photoshop
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>>735160198
Great so we can all have Starfield graphics soon unless we turn on the AI filter?
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>>735160038
>she's an old woman, old woman have a lot of wrinkles
she doesn't look like someone you would realistically see from that angle and distance. you just don't see detail on skin like this, real life has built on blur
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>>735161834
the problem here isn't about it being real or not, it's about the AI in question being the most soulless shit ever, you retarded AInigger-kun
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>>735161960
>we
No. You need a 5090.
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>>735162023
lol it's obvious you genuinely believed that was a DLSS 5 comparison
honestly I would die of embarrassment if I were you
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>>735161917
NTA but he is correct. She has dark rings around her eyes that she doesn't otherwise have which makes her look a lot older and her lips are different. She's also no longer a natural blonde and has black eyebrows.
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They really messed up showing RE:Requiem with DLSS5. I was going to buy it this week but now I'll hold off until I get to play with the new graphics.
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>>735162029
>reading comprehension
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>>735162198
yeah?
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>>735162261
The fact that she looks different again in this scene is also an issue. Doesn't have consistency.
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>>735161867
>You sound bitter because other people enjoy different things and have different priorities
considering im replying to the people who say
>i dont see the issue
way to move the goalposts when you actually get told how blind you are
>They aren't removing anything from you. Why are you bothered so much by it?
I think i have a computer that suits my needs at the moment
Im glad to have money i can spend on other things
but say I have to get replacement parts? I would prefer to not have a future that pushes overpriced crap
And I certainly dont need some skinwalkers telling me something is better when its not
You seriously mean to tell me that some pointdexter can spend his entire career teaching AI to be more than incompetent, and just because he made a few breaktrhoughs that I dont care about, suddenly my graphics card has to go from rendering shit, to including features that I dont want to pay for, but that I also have no say in paying for?
fuck that dude
If i want a manual drive car I dont want some fucking automatic driving prick telling me his option is better
when I want an axe, i dont want some chainsaw wielding prick telling me why his chian saw is better
except in those industries their alternative is an actual alternative

in the PC industry its "you HAVE to buy this shit because... its been paid for by US taxpayers and circular lobbying so you just have to!

and all so at the end of the day retards like you can move goalposts and pretend you arent faceblind as well
fuck all that, you cant pretend to be excited about details while not giving a shit about them
>inb4 mad
yeah im fucking mad, but at least im not stupid like you
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SAAAARS REALISTIC GRAPHICS JUST NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT AI OKAY SAARS DO THE NEEDFUL AND DEAL WITH IT OKAY ITS THE FUTURE SAAAR NO GAME CAN LOOK REALISTIC WITHOUT BLOODY AI OKAY
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>>735143461
If it's possible that this filter is something that can happen locally AND be designed in a custom way where the character, say, looks like it would on "Ultra" mode with optimal lighting, but is rendered at a lower resolution and "upscaled" to that higher fidelity, then it might work
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>>735143461
tiktok filters we had years ago is cool?
how?

kys you easily impressed brownoid. no wonder the brits conquered you when all they had to do was jingle keys in front of your face
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>>735162139
DLSS 5 is AI slop, lil jeet. don't bother replying to me
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>>735159405
The idealism argument is about much more than authorship. You ever use your imagination?
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>>735162305
>we don't need AI, just cover everything with anti soul gas so you can't see anything
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>>735162295
ha ha Just say you're poor.
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>>735162198
She's also kinda fucked up from the trauma of her mom getting murdered.
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>>735162381
you don't need AI to get an ugly reshade filter that turns up saturation either. fucking mongoloids and children have been doing it for years
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>>735162261
>DLSS 5 on
>lets just turn grace into slightly chubbier cheeked arya stark
cmon man they COULD just train her on a fucking face model
actually make that a feature, if Im willing to collect a bunch of julia pratt pictures I should be able to have the AI machine mold me a julia pratt interpretation
>>735162436
>watch me move my goalposts mom!
>>/b/ is where you go if you want to troll
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>>735162381
>muh AI fixes anti soul gas
is this going to be the pathetic cope from now on?
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>>735162295
based post. I hate that some stinking shit eater will try to shame you for being a human. nuke india
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>>735162294
lol she has black bags under her eyes in the game without DLSS5.
You people will cry over the most pointless stupid shit.
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>>735162541
no I've simply noticed a pattern where people praising older games post screenshots with harsh and dark lighting with lots of fog
probably because older games look like dogshit otherwise
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>>735162381
Very true saaar, only possible with AI!
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>>735162489
oh god what are you complaining about now?>>735146786
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>>735162705
RDR2 looked good for its time, but it's already dated now.
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>>735160856
I've read this exact same post back in 2015.
We're 10 years later now, how good is VR again?
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>>735162675
>pointing out black bags when anon is referring to an image without black bags under the eyes

if you're faceblind, maybe you should stop talking about faces
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>>735162675
No it's different to shadows. It's actually darker skin.
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>>735162675
Anon I've played the game without any sort of upscaler. She does not look like that at all.
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>>735162773
>We're 10 years later now, how good is VR again?
if you have the money it's pretty jaw dropping
the modding scene has brought a lot of PC games to VR
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>>735162778
>look it has black bags under her eyes
>so has the version without DLSS5
>but the image in the game doesn't match
well maybe the AI version is the one which is more consistent.
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>>735162849
>You just made that image up
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>>735162798
>it's not shadows
>>735162849
>they are shadows but they aren't really there
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WHen i look at all this AI stuff I think back to my time as a long time enjoyer of skyrim

A bunch of remarkably deluded people who are new to the game
>what game
i dunno, playing games
looking at women, you name it

and I think two things
>its all horrible
>it all looks the same
>billionaires are trying to push their crap so hard we're moving towards a direction with no alternatives
i dont want this
no one should want this
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>>735162849
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>>735143461
Ok, you're crazy
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>>735162969
I'm referring to how black bags under your eyes work. It's actual discolouration a bit like a black eye when you get punched.
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>>735163018
No. You're being a pissy whining fuck over nothing.
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>>735161152
well thats how people look in real life. they dont have overly smooth babyfaces. faces have contour and texture
I mean I understand people who have grown up and are obsessed with the game or franchise but the feature is optional. if you dont like things more realistic then dont use it
>>735161079
nothing like being called brown by a bunch of mexicans who can't even afford a GPU
>>735161859
what the fuck are you even circling lmao, a shadow?
this is proof you retards will literally cry about anything
>>735162005
>real life has blur
nigga buy some glasses
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>>735162772
So true saaar, it bloody needs AI filter quickely!
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>>735143461
>dude it would be good if the graphics of every game were just photorealistic
Tales of the abyss looks leagues better than any of the shitposts images spammed in these shitpost threads
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>>735163051
Seems that a lot of people agree with me so it's clearly jarringly wrong for a lot of us.
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>>735163065
ironically, this image is using DLSS
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>>735163056
they don't look like the same people
and the fact that you deny this shows you're fucking brown as you're not attuned to facial features of whites
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>>735163102
>well we're a large group of pissy whining fucks so we're right.
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>>735162874
>If you have the money
NTA but that's the thing that's just gonna keep VR perpetually niche
Nobody wants to spend thousands of dollars on a handful of experiences
The only thing sustaining VR is social-interaction at this point
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>>735163148
>you're brown
post hand now
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>>735163130
>DLSS4.5 is the same as DLSS5
Kill yourself stat
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>>735163161
For a technology that is going to come as standard on a graphics card and may just become standard in games it looking wrong to most people is a problem.
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>>735163201
i don't have to, you're face blind to white people, you're confirmed inferior
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>>735163003
you know what she looks like in all 3? wet
why the fuck is the DLSS off so dry and waxy
>>735163056
>what the fuck are you even circling lmao
if you genuinely dont see the obvious crease where there shouldnt be dont be surprised when I think you're beyond explaining
the only fucking person in all gaming that has a more obvious line right there is solid fucking snake
im not even highlighting like a subtle change in shading you stupid, blind, motherfucker, holy fuck at least AI can be trained, but if you cant see OBVIOUS THINGS thats not my problem
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>>735163218
It's not for you. You can't run it.
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>>735163210
kek you are very retarded
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This technology is a Rorschach test, reactions to which reveal who possesses a soul and who does not.
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>>735163243
Post hand mumbai boy
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>>735163056
>well thats how people look in real life. they dont have overly smooth babyfaces. faces have contour and texture
>>735156981
ella freya with studio lighting is baby faced
also "well in real life people look a way"
yes they do, you should go outside and meet real people before you go telling me what real life looks like
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>>735163250
It's a shadow. See >>735163275
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>>735163314
projection
you're defending ai and now confirmed you can't tell white people apart
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>>735163267
>This graphics card I bought was made for me personally at the exclusion of everyone else!
How to sell no graphics cards.
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>>735163356
post your hand. what are you afraid of?
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fucking bloody benchod bastards just buy 5090 are you prostitute? noooooooooooooooooo saaaar dont look at 2016 game that look the same as ai filter noooooo just buy 5090 benchoooood
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>>735163386
you're not worth the effort, i'm not dick measuring against a confirmed brown
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>>735163385
>I would buy a 5090 but now I'm not going to
sure anon. I believe you
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It's trying desperately to make grace look like scarlet johanson.
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>>735163437
>brownie confirmed.
Thanks for playing Mr Mohamad Mohamed Iqbal
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>>735160378
The world runs on lies and larps unfortunately. Things wouldn't be so fucked up if everyone knew what we knew.
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>>735163458
Sorry anon, but "who cares? I like it" is not a business strategy.
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>>735163351
harsh vivid shadows indicate harsh contrasts in surfaces, which was the original intent of my post>>735161594

again, if you dont understand lighting
and you dont understand reference material
and you dont understand facial features
why on gods name do you feel at liberty to tell me what does or doesnt look off or what does or doesnt look better
and worse, why you think its OBJECTIVELY better and justifies an industry wide push towards hotter PCs, lazier game devs, and stagnant or skyrocketing costs

Ill gladly pay more for good shit, but dont upcharge me for shit shit
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>>735163540
It's not for you. You can't even afford the PSU required to run it.
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>>735163197
>Nobody wants to spend thousands of dollars on a handful of experiences
I feel like my VR headset was a better investment than spending it on a week vacation. It really feels like you step into another world.
and it's just going to get more cheaper/accessible from now on
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>>735163515
there is literally zero freedom to be had on consoles, aquajeet
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>>735156925
Holy shit it actually butchered like 70% of the signs in the image.
Even resized and deleted a few of them.
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>>735161594
>posts images not in game.
wow , that's a good point. I've posted images from in game which show lines under her eyes. Retard
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>>735163615
>I made a product that only appeals to a small minority of people
You don't sound like you make lots of money.
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>>735163670
I didn't make a product. Do you think I'm Nvidia?
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>>735163721
It's basic business sense.
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>>735163752
What is?
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>>735163148
they look like the exact same people in different lighting and with different facial expressions
go look how lighting works because it completely changes how someone looks
>>735163250
you're sperging out over nothing bro
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the only thing i can conceivably justify DLSS 5 for is
>making ugly ass gene wilder looking ass characters like mary jane less gene wilder looking
can someone with generative AI beautify her for me for instance
Actually its the first game that has a gene wilder-looking ass MJ, but still
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>>735163764
That for what you sell to be most successful it needs to be popular.
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>>735163669
you could just do it yourself
the fact that I used
>2 reference materials
gave it even MORE of a chance
but even the fucking DLSS OFF shit inexplicably exaggerates and adds details which again, dont exist in the reference material
you fetal alcohol fuck
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>>735163813
I'm not Nvidia. What are you talking about you weird cunt
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>>735163843
nVidia are though and they're making DLSS5.
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>>735163835
she has shadows under her eyes on your own image you fucking knob
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>>735163862
nvidia are what?
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>>735163912
A business that sells products.
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>>735163630
Shut the fuck up steam toddler. I was hunting ducks at SNES before your ugly father fucked your drunk mom for the first time.
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>>735163932
And those products aren't for you.
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>>735163981
As I said, you lack business sense and so likely don't make much money.
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>>735163769
>different lighting shows different features
>which is why its okay for DLSS to just inexplicably change the lighting
okay now youre straight up effortlessly trolling
i say effortlessly because i know youarent trying to troll, youre just that stupid
Again this is the problem with people who push AI
>I dont care about details becasue the AI will fill them in
>I dont have any knowledge about lighting and rendering
completely ignoring the fact that the game relies heavily on lighting to push you to take risks or turn on the damn lights to see things
or completely ignoring the fact that lighting and shadows is why FEAR manages to look great in spite of low res textures
If I can cite specific sources and take the time to explain the reasons you're wrong and all you can do is be reductive and you cant explain why your AI slop DOES look better, dont be surprised when your inability to be convincing or reasonable is called out as both stupid and unreasonable
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>>735164016
I don't need to make money.
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>>735163976
yes aquajeet, i know that you think it's okay when nintendo does it
not having freedom is fine when it's meant to protect your tiny little brain
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>>735164049
Sure thing Anon we believe you.
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>>735164042
NTA but you're a fucking retard
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>>735164042
>inexplicably
realistically
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>>735163875
the fact that i didnt circle the "shadows under her eyes" but instead the big obvious shiny crease indicated harsh, defined, aging lines, tells me all i need to know
take you and your low quality posts to a generative ai thread or something
you know, on /b/ where trolling is allowed
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saaaaaaaaaars only AI can do this trust jensen he is great amazing immaculate man buy for him
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>>735164080
>We
who? you're a nobody on the internet crying about things you can't afford.
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>>735164078
You think you are free for taking the side of industry shills and defending nvidia, valve online?
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>>735164126
See >>735164112
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>>735143461
I made an uh oh poopiez stinky in your thread!!! Hahaha :D uh ohhhhh
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>>735164173
All us in this thread believe that you are rich as fuck and don't need to make money. We are sure that's not a larp at all.
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>>735160118
Nobody has ever refuted this.
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>>735164189
but i'm not, aquajeet
you meanwhile are trying to shit on anyone else's freedom while you're in a position where you have none
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>>735150239
kek
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>>735143461
The real problem i see is that every single character in OPs picture looks like theyre from the exact same game.
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>>735143461
There is no defense.
Return to proper AA, you lazy fucking bums.
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>>735163619
Headsets are as cheap as they'll ever be with the Quest 3s being $300, you can get even cheaper with secondhand Quest 2's, PSVR2, even old Windows headsets if you want to tinker with it a bit
There is no barrier for people to try out VR, you're just shit out of luck if you want something more than social interaction
The only advancements made for VR are high end +$800 headsets with better resolutions/lenses/smaller form factors, and it doesn't look like it'll trickle down to an affordable level at this point
Even the ancient Valve index for as outdated as it is, is STILL being sold +$500 second hand for specs worse than a Quest 2
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>>735164225
heres the real problem
its people without skin in the game that think they can peddle this shit
As if anyone whos consumed an activision/microsoft/EA game in the past decade isnt already used to being marketed the crap that appeals to shareholders instead of the people buying this stuff
shareholders and AI stans dont care about anything
not about people, art, society
they dont care about shit but their bottom line
they are soulless
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>>735164225
I'm not rich as fuck. I don't need to work though. I don't need to "make money" to afford things.
I'm not here screeching about GPU or memory prices and throwing wobblers over GPU tech which I can't afford to run.
Keep coping.
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>>735164286
so its the UE5ening but now its an unavoidable hardware feature
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>>735164286
Yes. photo realistic people tend to look similar.
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>>735164267
drop the aquajeet crap or im raping you sir
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>>735164389
>i dont have a horse in this race
>i dont care about anything
>but i can muster the courage to troll people who do care about some aspect of something
>lmoa cope
thats a lot of words to say "im just trolling you lmao"
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>>735164525
You're putting words into my mouth, things I've not said, intentions I've not made.
You're upset you have to work your little tits off all year to afford your low end PC while I sit on my arse all day playing video games and can just buy a new PC whenever without much of a care.
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>>735164459
Horizon, Death Stranding, Alan Wake, Uncharted, Hellblade, Resident Evil 9 all have photorealistic characters but you can still tell all of them apart.
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>>735164726
no they don't
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>>735143461
>10 years in the future.
This shit as of right now can't be use in modern day consumer's machine, that's why we estimate it for the next 10 FUCKING years in the future.

>Could genuinely be amazing for something like a VR game
This technology is in a different direction on what could directly improve VR.
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>>735164459
>all photographs of people look the same because they are photographs
this is where the Indian retard brigade is currently at for the shill campaign. do you rike it?
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>>735164647
>londonjeet is an unemployed leech
surprising absolutely no one here
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>>735164647
im not putting words into your mouth
if youre in a situation where cost of living isnt an issue, and youre mocking someone for whom it is
that doesnt mean they arent begrudgingly consuming the product
No one should have to mindlessly consume a product
which, as you've so non-literally, but heavily implied, you are doing because again, you plainly stated you dont care and are just here to mock people for at worst, being poor, or at best, whinging about their purchase that they paid for with the money they worked for which again, you plainly stated are not sensibilities you have
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>>735164802
Are you the retard who thinks a 5070 is high end?
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>>735143461
gonna buy 6090 for every family member!
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>>735164343
>There is no barrier for people to try out VR
Quest 3s and Quest 2 are bulky and have shitty fresnel. You also still need a high tier gaming PC, which 80% of people don't, and definitely not the kind of people who would buy a used Quest 2.
>you're just shit out of luck if you want something more than social interaction
Not really. VR not having games is old news. Any new game is quick to get a VR mod. VRchat is just very popular for obvious reasons.
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>>735165020
High fidelity VR chat is for the exceptionally rich
maybe epstein island was a simulation, not a real place
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>>735164928
you don't understand the value of money because you leech off the taxpayer
figures you have nothing else to do but shill for nvidia, you don't leave your house and have no friends so nvidia is a substitute for that
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>>735164917
I've told you twice that the product isn't for you.
You moved on to saying that I don't make any money. I've told you I don't have to.
I'm not mocking you. I'm being straight with you. You hate something because you don't have access to it. It's that simple. You're here being upset because something is out of your reach. In 4 months time I'll be posting pictures of games looking amazing and you'll be seething over your DF videos looking for errors so you can feel good about not having it. Pathetic
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>>735143621
HL1 will be one of the first things it's put on, just like RTX.
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>a decade ago everyone would agree it looks great
>now nitpicky fags will tell you it's the worst thing ever
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>>735164753
retard
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>>735165120
damn you should buy a bad dragon dildo and shove it deep into your faggot asshole. why not? too poor for a nice dildo? little baby can't afford the ass splitter 9001? that's what I thought you're just jealous that you don't have access to the sphincter stretcher line of products
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Just a bunch of luddite redditors crying because their bullshit job is over soon.
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>>735165120
once again, youre assuming anon is whining that the cost is too great
And im going to restate plainly that that doesn't mean he didnt consume the product
I dont buy a fucking movie ticket praying the movie is good, and I dont lie to myself that i watched a good movie if it is in fact bad

so to reiterate
>If youre' unwilling to discuss cost
>youre unwilling to acknowledge that some people dont like having to pay for features they dont care about (again, in a market which previously had options)
Then you have nothing to discuss and you're just here to laugh at people for being have-not's
GETTING CALLED OUT FOR IT
and then backpedaling, which is on you for
>speaking vaguely
>tersely with heavily condescending implications
and then backpedaling some more
at least troll more subtly or double down so I can stop pretending you aren't some glow up operation, because you've been anything but reasonable
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>>735165265
Why don't you start your dragon dildo thread to be a pissy little retard in. I might join you to laugh at you coping there too
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>>735165329
>once again, youre assuming anon is whining that the cost is too great
He is. Prove me wrong.
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>>735165373
why don't you understand that people choose not to purchase things for reasons beyond affordability? now buy the dildo, poorboy
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>>735165431
If this was a dildo thread you'd be correct. This is a DLSS5 thread which has a 5090 cost of entry.
Where's your 5090?
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>>735143461
The objective of photorealistic graphics is guess what? Photorealistic graphics. Yes, games will all look the same, but that's mainly down to the fact that devs have been pushing this realistic graphics style for decades.
If you want your game to look different, come up with new artstyles.
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>>735152425
It's because the face model they were working with was very youthful looking, so the model ends up undercompensating.
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>>735165494
I didn't purchase it for the same reasons you didn't purchase the dildo
it doesn't offer features that I want
maybe next time.
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>>735165417
>He is. Prove me wrong.
too great is implying he doesnt have it
whereas he could have just as well have bought one at scalper's prices and be unimpressed at the product he ended up with

Regardless at best (when juding you) he has a product that he thinks sucks, wasnt worth the cost, and is unsatisfied with the continuing AI push
AT worst (when judging you) you're acting like anon is just some 3rd worlder or someone who's poor

and in my opinion youre either shitting on him for thinking his new part is garbage (which is his right as a consumer) or annoyed that PC parts replacement is growing more and more difficult (which is still reasonable as a consumer) or that he's poor (in which you're making fun of someone in an entertainment sector that was affordable 5 years ago)

in all cases you're a dick
my proof:
i assumed nothing and your argument only assumes narrowly he doesnt own the card, rather than broadly that "graphics cards cost way more than they need to and GFX companies are shiilling bullshit features that anon doesnt see the value in"
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>>735143461
>imagine a game made from the ground up to have it's artstyle dictated by whatever the AI makes up that second
I'm sure this will make games look great
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>>735165686
>I entered a thread to talk about a GPU feature which I don't like on a GPU I don't want.
I don't believe you anon.
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>>735165737
>i assumed nothing and your argument only assumes narrowly he doesnt own the card,
He doesn't own the card.
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you niggers would defend anthrax if it meant you got a chance to be contrarian
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>>735166010
You faggots would be complaining that the box it came in was the wrong size
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>>735165801
>here's our new feature announcement
>hmm that doesn't look very appealing
>NOOO YOU CANT SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO BUY IT
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>>735166057
>I don't have a 5090 by choice
>so I bought a poorfag GPU
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Can you feel it? An entire burgeoning industry positioned themselves around not having to think or care about the work they produce. What if nobody buys in? Do you feel the fear setting in?
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>>735155274
what the FUCK is happening here
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>>735166176
frame gen interpolation
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>>735166036
yeah i would be as nobody in their right mind WANTS FUCKING ANTHRAX
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>>735166176
Virgil van Dijk in orange Netherlands kit (number 4), powerfully striking a football mid-action on a packed stadium pitch. DLSS 5 "On" overlay visible. NVIDIA GeForce promo screenshot for EA Sports FC with DLSS 5 reveal.
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>>735166267
kek
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>>735165801
>POSITIVE OPINIONS ONLY SAAAAR
do you think this is reddit?
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>>735164042
so you're pissing and moaning because realistic lighting changes how textures look. yes thats literally how lighting works
thats not a problem with the tech, it's a problem with you clinging to an idealized and inferior version of the game
DLSS does an extremely good job of making the visuals more realistic while retaining the style and shape of the original
>certain game elements wont be the same
you don't keep things in the past because of niche and obscure visual bugs which can be easily fixed
its like you think developers can't control DLSS implementation or develop with it in mind or that it can't be turned off
just a dumb argument all around
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>>735145480
You fell for it
This thing slapping airbrushed looking faces over video game models is not an AI in the sense of Ava from Ex Machina, it's an algorithm that recognizes spatial relations between different shades of pixel. They're just calling it AI cause they know we've watched a lot of science fiction movies and we're stupid enough to fall for it
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>>735143461
>But imagine the potential of something made from the ground up with this in mind, using an updated version of this thing 10 years in the future.
It's always the same shit with AIfags I fucking swear.
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>>735167659
>>735152128
Now imagine what they could do with LLMs on anonymous forums where there's no need for "character" consistency across several months of posts...
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dlss5 looks bad but it doesn't look worse than the original images so it's ok
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>>735157054
Yeah I mean with two entire motherfucking 5090's you could just render Blur Studios style cinematics in real time couldn't you
This whole DLSS 5 thing is just like me throwing some shit together at the last moment for a high school project I was supposed to be working on for the last two weeks
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>>735167883
Imagine what they could do to automated trading algorithms. Imagine this crock of shit being the hill they decide to die on
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>>735143461
@grok replace Debra Wilson with Debra Wilson.
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>>735163148
They don't look like the same person in Grace's case because she barely looks like a person. I mean she looks representative of a person in form, but lacking significant facial detail, contouring, and lighting, basically a cartoon face made 3D. Not mappable to real human features.
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Let me explain what these AI tools are really for:
>generating content for personal use
That's it.

The idea of taking content created by artists and running it through AI to "improve" it is appalling. Only complete troglodytes would accept such nonsense.
If you have to spend money to have your computer "fix" a game's art, then that art wasn't worth consuming in the first place, so the whole endeavor is pointless. You're spending time and money to do something that makes no sense in a game you shouldn't be playing...

Now it's a totally different thing to have a tool where you can place mannequins in different poses, and then write: "the mannequin on the left is Emma Watson, she's in a bikini, wet, and with her nipples hard and visible." The AI will generate that and you'll masturbate. That's what AI is for. It's for you to generate things for your own personal use, period.
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>>735158387
>unironically looks like the 17yr old model
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>>735168324
Normies don't understand how dramatically lighting can change a picture/video. This is a great example. Also the size of the lens and aperture matters a ton.
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>>735168660
>Very good Grok, now give her a massive and throbbing bulge.
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whats the point of the spam images that change the models
dlss5 uses the original geometry and shades things to be more appealing on top of it
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>>735168660
The future is now.
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Unpopular opinion: DLSS 5 looks bad because the games aren't made with it in mind.
It will look amazing in interactive-story games like Heavy Rain, and games that are actually made with DLSS 5.
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>>735168828
It takes one to know one.
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>>735168324
>this shill is literally going between multiple threads to use his newly issues talking point
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>>735169050
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>>735146530
After looks okay but the lighting on her face is fucked. It’s like Nvidia forgot what they’ve been doing this past decade which is to simulate light as realistic as possible.
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>>735167782
it's funny how during american hours we have 10:1 AI haters vs AI enjoers, while during chinese hours it's literally the opposite. americans might have strong frontier AI labs but in the long run they're not going to make it with their population of decels. LMAO
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>>735169735
So this is your new narrative?
"You need to love everything getting worse because if you don't, then CHINA will rule over everything getting worse!". They pay you too much.
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>>735168660
>>735168784
How do I use Grok? I wanna see this now.
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>>735169875
I speak about facts, you speak about your feelings. we are not the same.
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>>735169959
u must redeem the twitter subscription saar. support king elon
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>>735168828
>>735169050
Soldiers with outstanding tastes are rare in this day and age. May we meet again under a huge futanari bulge someday
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Unlike the actual DLSS 4.5 upscaling we know and love which works based on subpixel jitter process meaning all the reconstructed details ARE actually real, they're just found at low res through the jitter and temporal accumulation..
..this is ACTUALLY hallucinating pixels/fake lightning/stuff that's just not there and won't be consistent from scene to scene and camera angles, you can already see this in the footage.
To make this actually work they need to turn the intensity or denoising WAY down. It's gonna be rtx 6000 exclusive anyway and those card will suck though so who cares.
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>>735169993
You speak about shareholder value, I laugh at you. We are not the same.
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>>735170194
china will be the last one laughing.
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>>735170258
Only if they figure out how to make it useful first. Let them spend the trillions to train it. Right now they just get everything from spying on us.
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>>735143540
Dick Licky Sucky Slurpy
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>>735170376
>Right now they just get everything from spying on us.
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>>735143461
>Though I do concede there is a concerning possibility that devs get lazy and don't make the regular raster version look good enough
A concerning possibility? More like an inevitability.
What happened with raytracing, framegen and DLSS? The devs stopped caring about lighting and optimization.
As soon as there is a shortcut, it's going to be taken.
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>>735169998
Shit, I thought you only need Twitter or something. Oh well, I was going to bother and make an account but not this. Thanks bro.
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>>735170645
Oh an ACTUAL china shill, that's adorable. AI shill AND china shill, I hope that counts as two jobs.
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>>735170728
well jensen has to sell you new cards somehow. if devs kept optimizing, we would still be on 1080s.
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I love Grace
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>>735170042
God willing
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>>735143461
>another "ok it looks like shit but JUST YOU WAIT" AI post
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>>735143461
>But imagine the potential
this is all I ever hear from AI faggots
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>>735150239
NVIDIA should make this instead of the Instagram makeup filter version.
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>>735173643
funny, considering people here say they're buying gaming PCs to future proof to last for years.
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>>735173934
What's funny? All I ever hear is "just wait, it will be amazing soon" on a loop while it continues to look hideous.
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>>735173992
Which part of it isn't impressing you?
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>>735157647
Graphics peaked in like 2015 with Arkham Knight and DICE's Battlefront, since then games have only managed to both look worse and be harder to run.
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>>735173934
>i overspec so I don't have to rebuy as games get more intensive
Is not the same as
>in the future, everything that looks like shit will be good, trust me
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>>735168874
>This looks bad because the game wasn't made to be completely replaced by an AI slop machine which gives every single thing in the scene 3 point studio lighting and shiny highlights
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>>735174378
but it already looks better than anything you can run on your pc
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>>735174641
Anon, I can generate shitty looking AI porn on my computer as it stands, it's really pretty easy.
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>>735143461
The only use case I can see is making a multiplayer horror game that simulates madness and schizophrenia.
>Have AI filter disabled at max sanity
>sanity degrades the AI filter gets enabled
>The influence of the filter starts out minimal
>But the further your sanity goes down the more the AI filter influences the game
>All until the AI filter is fully enabled and you whatever the filter and it's hallucinations show
Every schizophrenic experience in this horror game would be personalized.
But what type of horror game would it be gameplay wise that would suite it best?
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>>735174738
It isn't generated video. It's video game graphics which you can control in real time.
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I need to see this in Morrowind for rage bait
Years ago they showed some bullshit like this that replaced assets with Skyrim assets
https://youtu.be/R37VjsMgWP8?si=Mr--ftRINhqqzZNf
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>>735174791
It's generated over the top of the video game, it's literally just applying a real time instragram filter.
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>>735174203
The end result.
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>>735143461
I wouldn't mind it if it only scaled up environments and clothing and left faces alone.
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>>735174959
and it looks better than any game running on your PC
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>>735174976
Show me something which has impressed you recently
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>>735174985
why do you hate subsurface scattering
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>just turn it off if it bothers you bro

Fags missing the point that devs will no doubt rely on this shit to make their games look "pretty", Todd Howard is already salivating at the idea that they can just slap an AI filter to their outdated engine and dogshit optimization. Nvidia is already partnering with companies and we've seen games like Doom DA having RT baked into it, which means anyone who doesn't own the brand or the models that use said technology are gonna get fucked with missing effects, lighting and even worse performance.

To top it off, their solution to people that can't afford a high end GPU is gonna be their shitty cloud service model.
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>>735175181
>devs having tools they can use is bad actually
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You hate it because it makes women look realistic and years of gooning and anime have warped your sense of what normal (even 10/10) women look like
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>>735175181
Yes, and sooner or later the default gaming choice will be a high end PC or console. And off you will go back to console with your tail between your legs.
I can't wait.
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>>735159265
>More detailed and realistic
Not good things for graphics
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>>735174959
It's actually not. It's integrated into the rendering pipeline and applied before the final rendering process.
Not that it makes a difference, but it's how it actually works.
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>>735159651
But then why do you need that for a next-gen graphics card that can run 8k natively?
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>>735175181
Have you ever considered not buying shitty games from shitty companies who consistently do shitty things you hate?
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>>735175236
>>735175302

>Why yes, I will gladly pay 70 bucks for a game with fake frames, fake resolution and now fake graphics
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They should rename this feature. It's no longer just upscaling. The goals are entirely different and it should have a different checkbox I can use to disable it while keeping the upscaling. Call it AI Enhance or some shit.
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>>735175462
Aaargh I hate this game! This company hasn't been good for 15 years!
Oh they released a new game?
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>>735175507
who gives a shit
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Why does this slop appeal so much to low IQ pajeets? Its genuinely fascinating.
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>>735175484
Do you struggle to buy your games?
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>>735175012
It looks like shit, though. Most games look better running on my PC, and I'm working with some pretty outdated hardware.
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>>735175621
post an example or 2
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>>735143461
Fuck off jeet
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>>735175462
>>735175550
>just ignore it bro
>just vote with your wallet
>don't talk about it bro that's cringe
That's how literally every bad thing in this industry started. That's horse armor. That's loot boxes.
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>>735143461
>Call me crazy but I think this is pretty cool actually
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>>735175654
I'm not your slave, faggot. Post your hand first, with timestamp, I'll think about it.
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You're not crazy, you're just a shitskin.
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>>735175679
Yes, microtransactions are an issue because nobody buys them
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>>735143461
Im sure that it is a very impressive piece of technology, but keep it away from my vidya, thank you.
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>>735175732
Just look at the instant knee-jerk reaction when asked to qualify his retarded opinion.
Being left behind in the gaming tech space must really be getting to you.
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>>735175850
>no hand
>no timestamp
Damn, another Ranjeet here shilling for shit he aspires to own. Your wage is a fraction of what I would get at a fast food joint.
>>735175823
Yeah, and ignoring them didn't actually make them go away did it?
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>>735143540
Dick Licking Shit Sucker
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>>735175946
They weren't ignored, that's the whole point. You ignore them? That's great. 6 gorillian other people didn't.
If you are still buying AAA games in current year then you're absolutely the problem.
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>>735175946
>post hand
>jeet
>brown
Still reading from your script I see.
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>>735175946
>Your wage is a fraction of what I would get at a fast food joint.
Your aim is to work at a fast food joint? Aiming high to afford that GPU upgrade. Are you going for the 8gb version or you big spending for the 9gb version?
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>>735176039
Not sure what hand posting even means any more since AI can generate text pretty well or simply change the race of a hand with a single prompt.
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>>735176152
>>735176039
Damn, that must have REALLY hurt. Fuck man, I'm not sorry.
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>>735156981
Kill all women
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>>735176217
>my sperg out after being asked to qualify must have hurt you.
Just knowing you'll soon be completely priced out of PC gaming is enough to bring joy to me.
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>>735156981
>They applied frame generation so everything looks creamy for no reason
This shit can't run without FG
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>>735176445
>the whole thing is a psyop to make people forget about framegen being a mandatory requrement now
Sneaky Taiwan man
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>>735175601
>nah bro, poor performance and a slapped on filter to make up for shit graphics is actually good because I can afford it

I hope you are not one of those who complain about nintendo's pricing and quality of games
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>>735176361
Then we'd be in the same boat, I guess. I hope when the AI bubble pops and you have to go back to the scam call center, the pay's worse than it used to be.
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>>735176740
>the pay's worse than it used to be.
I wouldn't know. But at least your old job is still available.
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>>735176740
>>735176842
You guys understand that when the bubble pops AI isn't going away, it will just be controlled by 3 massive companies.
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>>735176934
it isn't going to pop. It can only improve as tech improves. If it stagnates then tech also stagnates.
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>>735176984
>trust the plan
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>>735146530
It's crazy how the AI made me realize just how shit the models are, I used to think it was good but now it looks like something out of a ps3 game. I'd still pick it over the AI because the AI looks shit too.
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>>735176934
It will literally always be controlled by 3 or fewer massive companies, there's no future where it isn't. Even if it becomes true AGI etc etc and saves us all, it will be controlled by one or two companies.
>>735176984
>tech can only improve
Tech improves in directions, it doesn't mean your direction is profitable retard.
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>>735177094
Not a case of trusting the plan. It's like saying graphics will pop. They won't , they'll continue to advance as usual.
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>>735177138
>Tech improves in directions, it doesn't mean your direction is profitable retard.
ai improves with processor advances and software advances.
Are you expecting processing speeds to stop and software development to stop?
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>>735177162
Anon graphics have been pretty stagnant for a while, and the new garbage can graphical tool isn't advancing them. Your AI will also likely turn stagnant. Hell, they have been telling us that it'll stagnate without trillions of dollars and dozens of nuclear power plants.
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>>735176984
AI zoomers just butthurt that they missed out on buying Apes
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>>735175036
I don't have a picture, but I saw a potted fake plant in my neighborhood recently. It was a handful of crocheted flowers on a porch. It was very neat.
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>>735177221
And if those improvements don't keep up, nobody cares. I don't think you understand what a plateau even is. You look at a 500% rate of improvement falling to a 30% rate of improvement and pretend like it's exactly as promising as it used to be.
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>>735177229
>Anon graphics have been pretty stagnant for a while,
not really.
DLSS upscaling. Ray Tracing. Path Tracing and now AI all in the space of 8 years?
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>>735177368
Yeah yeah, and physX was going to change physics engines everywhere until nobody cared enough.
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>>735177289
>And if those improvements don't keep up,
Don't keep up with what? If it improves then ai improves.
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>>735177417
PhysX is still being used it games? Are you retarded?
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>>735176984
You don't understand what a bubble is.
The current state of the AI market place is there are 1000 companies all run on pure speculation. None of them are profitable. Eventually investors will all withdraw and 99% of those companies will go bankrupt, leaving only the wealthiest, who will make gorillians of dollars.
The tech is never going away.
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>>735146561
There are people here who jerk off to cartoon animals, so it's impossible to tell what answer you're going to get.
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>>735177436
Interest. Investment. Other tech. AI will be consigned to where it's actually good, parsing massive amounts of research data and making it coherent.
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>>735177545
I masturbate to AI generated robots
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How come people were pro-Moguri mod, but suddenly now you are anti-AI? Sounds like more anti-Japanese double standards.
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>>735177510
>You just don't understand
Maybe you just don't understand. Even if AI stopped getting new investors it would still advance with tech and software improvements. It wouldn't regress. What is built wouldn't go backwards. It can only go in a forward direction.
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>>735177627
Nobody is claiming that it will suddenly lose the ability to exist. What I said is that they will no longer be able to pay you, because investment will dry up.
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>>735177627
That's literally what I said in the first place dumb retard. Your instant assumption when a bubble burst was suggested it means that AI will go away. This is where I am telling you that you don't understand, because clearly you fucking don't.
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>>735177678
>Pay you
Why would I require payment?
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>>735177737
Because if you shill this hard for free, it's even more pathetic.
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>>735177710
>just let me tell you something that's pretty fucking obvious, something which nobody even asked about, just so I can act like an authority on it while calling you stupid.
I bet you're a complete unlikable dick in real life
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>>735177761
What am I shilling?
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>>735155007
What's awful about this is the lighting, doesn't look natural at all. The character's face is all light up like a model photoshoot, instead of having a natural soft lighting.
They need to improve on that in the DLSS model, too many stock photos in the training.
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>>735177821
Poor quality AI tools. In this case, a graphical plugin that makes games look worse.
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>>735177802
>completely misunderstand the conversation
>get corrected
>double down
>get called a retard
>n-nobody likes you irl
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>>735177861
I haven't shilled anything. I've disagreed with you and probably laughed at your cope a few times. I've not promoted anything to you. Why would I care if you use fucking ai not? it's not like you're someone important, you probably have goats and chickens walking around in your living room or some shit
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>>735177961
Nobody asked you. Retard
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>>735177589
Probably Robot Wars style ones as well.
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>>735164267
>>735164267
>trying to shit on anyone else's freedom while you're in a position where you have none
Ironic.



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