>have a very fun deck>game throws you that one boss that counters your strategy and kills youThis happens way too often to be a coincidence. What's up with that?
Don't make a shitty deck that can get countered
>he commits to a one trick deck
Made this Silent fanart https://files.catbox.moe/gpl89n.png
This was the easiest A10 run I've ever had. Silver Crucible and 5 (five) campfires in the first act, early frost orbs and 3 Defrags just made everything a cakewalk
So, for those who played the first game, what's the deal with the architect? Is he something that'll eventually become a proper boss during early access or what?
>>735144587He'll probably be the act 4 boss like the Heart was in StS 1
>>735144628So architect wasn't a boss in sts1? Kinda got that vibe from the dialogue between him and some of the characters.
>>735144483Silver Crucible is easily the best starting option for me. I've never lost a run where I had it offered.
Had a really fun Osty run with Necro. Neow's transform gave me 2 Reanimates which made Act 1 so much easier, though it falls apart by mid Act 2 if you don't build upon it. I managed to remove Exhaust from one of the Reanimate and went all in with attacking only with Osty.
>>735145054How does this card scale. Do you get 6 for every individual card you have where osty attacks, or what? How many attacks did you have to get that number?
>>735145120It's basically Perfected Strike but for Osty. I don't think Calcify counts as an Osty attack but it does increase the damage for all Osty attacks including this. Sadly I never ran into Friendship in this run, nor the upgraded version of Necro's personal relic. Osty not getting Weak and Str Down is very nice. I think the baby Byrdonis is the same. It was pretty quirky to do a run where only Necro's summons dealt damage.
I fucking love the necro attack that spreads debuffs between all your enemies. You can ramp up doom stupidly fast playing it a bunch of times.
So you wanted to go for an early Elite...
>>735145671Less bullshit than the statue.Kill off one or two and they're manageable.
>>735145671Bring literally any aoe.
>>735145671Focus the one that buffs first with your biggest attack. Pick another 1 for the rest. Once 2 are down it's easy. Nob was harder.
>>735144170Same shit happened to me in balatro constantly
>>735144696Architect wasn't a boss in StS1 but was namedropped on the flavor text for a few relics. The timeline explains the Architect's absence in StS1 and some of the dialogue
>>735145650It also lets you spread Debilitate, Vulnerable, and Weak. Insane shit.
>>735145836*very situational shiti've been playing necro for a while and most decks barely have any weak / vulnerable let alone enough care about spreading it to pick up anotherwise useless card.
>>735144170The silent feels completely fucked at a10. Her bad base decks makes act 1 absolute suffering, and some of the a1 bosses and elites feel unwinnable. The hermit crab guy being a huge DPS check is a massive fuck you in particular, since she needs to get really lucky to deal that much damage even if you all-in on offense.
>>735145926What do you mean barely any Weak when Defy is literally one of the most insane cards in the game and that shit is common? So is the Vulnerable version though it's definitely nowhere near as good.
I get it now. Just get a child of stars and comet and then just condense your deck down with charge.Comet will debuff, block and do damage all in one. Glow of course, too. Comet and charge and block plan even have substitues as well. You can also loop something like bulwark and finish with blade. As both damage and block plan. I'd be surprised if you can't do this in 90% of runs.
>>735146036a9+ fucks pretty much everyone equally. you learn the hard way to skip elite encounters and to reduce your hallway fights.
>>735146087>have to draw both misery and defy simultaneously>have to be an aoe fightdoom already has access to plenty of aoe, it doesn't need misery. it's just not a very good card.
>>735145926>defy a useless cardwhat the fuck, what kinda tard calls 6 block and a weakness useless?
Does 'playing it automatically' also consume energy? Like let's say I put it on royal gamble but start with only 3 stars. Does it do nothing or does it give me 9 stars for free?
>>735146137Sometimes elites are unavoidable. The silent having the worst starting deck feels like it hurts her more than the rest, since act 1 is BULLSHIT. I almost feel like I need hallway fights, because several bosses are DPS checks and her starting DPS is so fucking bad you autolose without several good attack additions.
>>735144628today I finished my first StS run and it ended at the heart, do I have to accumulate enough damage throughout several runs to unlock act 4 or what?
>>735146249we're talking about misery here, not defy.
Is the game bugging or am I missing something? why the fuck isn't miniature tent doing nothing? fuck my life, 200 golds down the shitter.
>>735146294After you beat the normal boss on each character, you unlock the optiok to take key pieces instead of relics, effectively making the run harder due to not taking the relics, but if you get all 3, you can fight the hidden boss.
>>735146267it gives you 9 stars. certainly not for free though, there's a very big opportunity cost.
>>735146414Have you tried clicking your buttons sir?
>>735146414no wait, I'm retarded, apparently you can just pick every option one after the other. I though it added more options to the menu. So I am retarded. Pretty sweet tho, seems busted as fuck if you get more rest site relics.
>>735144170What's the point of a deckbuilder that deletes your deck every time you play? People are so stupid
>>735146524It’s just funslop. People only like it because it’s fun.
Changed the fps from 60 to 144 and got stuck on this screen. Exited, booting up the game and it's stuck on a black screen. So my save file is bricked as wellVERY COOL
Had a really fun co-op run last night where I was the silent and my friend played the regent. Silent is usually a huge damage dealer but I played her as this kind of support character where I would stack up debuffs on the enemy and use multiplayer cards to have my friend do huge damage with his sovereign blade.
>>735146524>play deckbuilding game>everybody netdecks and play the same deckin slay the spire, every run is unique because it pushes you towards picking cards that you wouldn't otherwise.
>>735146423thanks, damn I bet it'll take me a long time to get there, this run didn't feel too hard and yet without some of the resources I found I would have been completely helpless
Come try Slay the Spire retarded editionsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243054191629/76561199498658249
>>735146574Why does this sound so homoerotic?
>>7351467402/4, starting in 5 minutes
>>735144857Scroll Boxes comes close sometimes but Silver Crucible is probably the best starting option on average for all characters
>>7351469292 transforms though.
Finally completed Silent A10! Beat it with a shiv deck too. Now onto Regent.
I can't win without infiniteslop... I'm a fraud!
Yeah dude it's ok I didn't want any good relics anyway.
>>735147503whispering earrings is great is you're high T
>>735146452You are funny
>>735147503parasol or no balls.
I really dislike the current balance. Elites chunking all your hp and the disensentive to fight them feels really bad. Hallway fights are also a bitch. It feels like if you have to do a hard pool fight before the first Act I elite, often times it takes away enough of your health that you'll just die to the elite.The Act II worm elite is my most hated enemy. If you dont have overwhelming AoE, he'll chunk most of your hp. Just okay AoE is not good enough.
>5 years in development>most non-elites are harder than eliteswhat did megacrit mean by this
>>735147556Based high T anonI'll have the first turn on your girl
>>735148016sharing is caring.
i'm on a 7 rotating winstreak now on a10makes me wonder if I should stream my runs somewhere just in case since I seem to be doing better than some of these "expert" ecelebs currently
>i'm on a 7 rotating winstreak now on a10>makes me wonder if I should stream my runs somewhere just in case since I seem to be doing better than some of these "expert" ecelebs currently
Has anyone ever gotten potion belt, alchemical coffer, and delicate frond?
>>735148562silent is just the latest win though
>>735147620>15 relics after it
>>735147937>mostnigger please. There are some overtuned hallway fights but certain act 1 and 2 elites hard counter some builds. I'm looking at you bee nigger.
>>735148125NOOO STOP USING D TIER CARDS THAT'S NOT ALLOWED STOP STOP STOP
>first time playing regent>get the godrun with op as fuck relics>clear everything easily>think im the regent god>play for hours last night>only beat the act 1 boss once
is Parry the worst card in the game
>You can fight the Fake Merchant if you throw a Foul potion at himHOLY SHIT
>>735147827NOOOOOO I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE CARDS AND FIGHTS I PICK AND I JUST CANT RUN INTO EVERYTHING I HATE THINKING
>>735149248you don't have any arms to open your pepsi max
>>735149248what a funny lil guy
Anybody up for one? Can host soon
>>735149997Yes.
>>735150113I am finally cooking up my blackberry and berry protein powder cookies so I need to wait those out first, but then I will post when I host
This was the Platonic ideal of a "vanilla" Ironclad run>only exhaust was true grit and the +40 block cards>no exhaust synergies>no expect a fight+>only card draw was pommel strike, shrug it off, vicious, and offering+>never found a single body slam card despite having barricade and 2 impervious+>most generic relics imaginable>act 1 was all about perfected strike>act 2 enchanted my starting strikes>act 3 enchanted my pommel strikesStrike, strike, and strike some more. Offering+ was the only dishonest thing about this run.
>>735146740Speedster with Dirge was really fun, thanks for hosting
>>735146740My deck was shit but it was fun.Vakuu played Bullet Time, no draw and then stoked my entire hand kek
>>735150883>>735150925I had armor for my part, thanks for joining
I feel like I should just give up if I have to rest a few times.
>>735144170>after many attempts, manage to have an infinite build>game gives me the exact 1/50 draw that makes me loseThis keeps happening
>>735150996that was slay the spire 1. right now the meta is to beeline for bosses and skip encounters as much as possible.
>>735150996Resting is good in this game
>good players make the nuanced decision to skip some elites based on their deck being bad or skip act 3 because their build is done>retarded anon: THIS MEANS I SHOULD SKIP EVERY COMBAT AND NEVER BUILD MY DECK
>>735145671The eels aren't that bad.Better them than the statue or the asshole millipede
Alright, I'm starting to warm up to Vaaku a bit. He just let me salvage my "claw" run (one single copy of upgraded claw, no Feral) with the Music Box. I had no other real way to scale aside from my maxed Girya, and this singular relic basically dug me out of the hole by letting me generate extra Claws, Beam Cells, and Go For The Eyes.
>Silver Crucible combos with the cheese event to give you two upgraded cards for just one procAs if I needed more reasons to love it.
>>735144170The RNG in this game has got to be wired to fuck you in certain ways. The amount of times that my uproars would seek out the singular strike I hadn't removed yet is astronomical.
>>735151640Post retarded takes you see every thread >"I HAVE 1000 HOURS IN STS1 A20 [citation needed]">*faceslams into bee fag using shivs with no alternate wincon*>"WTF THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO FUCK RNG THIS GAME IS BULLSHIT ELITES ARE OVERPOWERED THIS IS HARDER THAN A93 ON STS1, WAITING FOR BALANCE CHANGES"
Just got a clear on the first game should I bother with act 4 or can I move onto 2 now?
>>735152456act 4 is pretty short and not exactly fair. i guess it's worth a go for completion, but it's perfectly skippable.
>>735152456Heart kill on every character.
>>735152456As of today, StS1 is a more compact, polished and finished product than 2, by the simple nature of StS2 being on early access. Here are the following reasons to play StS2 over 1 today.>you've played the first one for 500+ hours and want something new>you want to be part of the long-game experience and balance rollercoaster that's going to be the early access process>you want to enjoy the new graphics and artstyle (understanding that the game is not finished, still has a lot of placeholder art, unfinished enemies and lacks overall visual and sound polish)>you want to play some of the new characters>you want to play multiplayer natively>you want to be IN and play THE NEW THINGIf any of those reasons are so important that you feel the need to play 2 over 1, come over. Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with exploring 1 for a while longer before jumping over.I spent the first two months of 2026 honing my A20H skills until I was satisfied to prepare for the launch and it was a delightful process.
>>735152456A20 heart kill on every character, you filthy casual.
>>735148125Bro this is like a A15 (at best) heart run difficulty wise
>WarriorJugg + Blockade or bust>SilentOne hundred... MILLION ShivsSimple as
Regent is the hardest act 1
>>735153509yes but silent, despite being op at low ascensions, suffers a lot in act 2
>>735153509the silent act 1 is pretty fucking bad
What compelled them to make a skeleton so sexy?
>>735153857to make you want to bone
>>735153719I think the silent suffers more in act 1 than in 2.
>>735150113HOSTING NOWsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243066677407/76561198043831607
>>735144313Cute Silent, thanks anon
Does this card have synergy with anything?
>>735154412misery? you can also remove the exhaust with that event which is fun.
>>735154412osty attacks and doom skills
seems kind of useless unless im not understanding something
>>735154412if you deal damage with anything that arent cards I guess or if you plan on getting giga-strength anyways
>>735154412Yeah, with blocking
>>735154507gets rid of junk cards, a lot of cheap block and colorless synergy.it's a good card.
>>7351543501 more needed
>>735154507shrinking deck = goodremoving statuses = goodarmor = good
>>735146486it's even better in co-op
>>735144170RNG is fucking rigged, just like in the first one.
How do you play ironclad hp loss I got a bunch of good hp loss cards but even when I rest at every campfire and aim for them I end up losing too much health by the time I get to an elite/boss
I love 50 damage shanks
>>735152950Alright fine jeez! I'm orb maxxing as we speak
>>735154507block fiend fire is goodeven better when you choose which cards exhaust and not blindly hitting your full hand
>>735154507gets rid of your garbage strikes and defends, trasnforms them into immediate value and thins your deckit's difficult to design a more powerful card that doesn't say "win the game"
>>735154350Might be better for me to sit this one out. Somethings going on with my network.
>>735154634nah it's fine getting ricochet every single card reward.
>>735154808Okay then anon. I will kill the lobby and rehoststeam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243067530960/76561198043831607
>>735154412sleight of flesh does 9 damage whenever you apply a debuff. in a way this card is also like +dexterity and it exhausts so not terrible on its own although its only to one enemy unless you also happen to have the card that spreads it to all.
>>735154881Up. 5 minutes for 1 more to show up then we begin
>>735154949NVM WE HAVE ALL 4 GO GO GO
you have an entire act to adapt your deck
>>735155079sez who
>>735154645Atta boy.
I love ancient dialog
>>735153038so what? i don't know how many people have 7+ rotating yet.
>>735154412It's doesn't need synergy because it just does something strong by itself
>>735155787>saizamn
>>735147226But enough about EDH
>>735154507This card is insane btw
>>735154507>posts one of the best cards in the gameHurr guys this seems bad and useless? Can someone "explain" as it were?
>>735154507It's second wind but you get to pick the targets
>>735155787I’ve never found the tri boomerang. What does instinct do?
>>735148125proud of u sis
>>735156335I don't remember
>>735156335Flat -1 energy costIt's insane if you've got the right attacks for it
>anon was saying ironclad sucks>I just always draft a bunch of exhaust cards and high damage attack and I've already beat ascension 4
>>735156505I think it'd be worth it even if it only enchanted two attacks. Hell, sometimes even just one.
>>735144170silent suffers this the most imo
ATTENTION:>ATTENTION:ATTENTION:>ATTENTION:ATTENTION:i love feral. Thank you for reading!
>get a random Riddle With Holes and offered Phantasmal Killer later>fuck it, might as well go for it>every other turn looks like this
>one card off going infiniteFUCKING WORM
>>735156813am I the only one who preferred silent totally wrapped in her cloak? made her look a lot more threatening
What's the point of Snakebite? Why do I care about paying 1 mana more for what's essentialy deadly poison with retain?
>>735156924The point is that it's a shit card
>>735156924>>735156813
>>735156924it's there as a prank
>>735156924Due to the way poison works, it's a lot more damage than it looks like. 5 poison damage is 15 total while 7 is 28 total damage, so it's still pretty efficient if you ignore how fucking slow 7 turns is. As for the retain part, the main combos would be something like pounce or bullet time to discount it. Or just waiting until the enemy isn't attacking to play it.It's absolutely a terrible card you never pick but I can kind of see what the devs were going for. Obviously compared to bouncing flask it's going to be maybe better in multi enemy fights and worse in single target fights.
>>735156876you are not, the generic double-knives-in-hands pose is far more boring. NGL visually the game is pretty underwhelming imo, the new character selection screens are a big downgrade for example (hopefully they'll be replaced eventually)
Does the Regent have ANY good means of generating block? I'm stuck taking fires to upgrade my Defends just to not die to chip damage.
>>735157496I like the necrobinder one
>>735157496For me it's just the silent in game. Select screens are a lateral move and I really like the animations for almost anything, but silent being totally wrapped in her cloak gaver her a mysterious and threatening appearance, like a snake coiled up to strike. Regardless I'm sure a ton of this stuff will be changed over time
>>735157580bro your bulwark? your child of t he stars? your photon shield? your reflect? your cloak of stars? your gather light?
>>735157580He has 5 common block cards and you can justify picking any of them (and cloak of stars, cosmic indifference and gather light are outright good)
>>735157613it's my favourite one as well
>bring two explosive vials from act 1 into act 2 for the beetles or centipede>run into neitherOh well, at least it deleted those book cunts
>>735156924It's not a very good card but it's not as bad as people thinkRetain is very valuable, deadly poison costing one less doesn't help it if you aren't playing it because you need to block the turn you draw it, and it makes it easier to line up with her cards that let you play stuff for free like Pounce or the one that adds Sly, or with Burst etc. I think it just needs a simple number buff to be good, if it did 9/12 poison it would be quite solid.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOINGGAME IS HARD
>>735154881brightest flame op, gg bros
Funny infinite ironchad meme thereRehosting A5 nowsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243072943358/76561198043831607last one from me I NEED to pry myself away from this
Is the Hearthstone expansion out yet? I'm tired of this dogshit game
>>735158265>trades one pile of dogshit for another
>>735158135snakebite is overhated by people that never played itit's not great, but it's far from the worst thing ever created
i thought a single hidden daggers, phantom blades and skewer+ would be enough for the act 2 sand worm boss but I bottom decked hidden daggers AND took it out of the reshuffle like three times, died to the struggle timer and was 6 hp away from killing. can't even be mad just sad
>>735158382well it has retain and unplayable so it's just -1 hand space. not the worst as far as curses go
>>735158143lol dogshit
>>735158450it's not unplayablei cleared my a8 run last night and it began with a floor 1 snakebite pick
>>735158581>a8
oh yeah too bad I didn't A10 regent in time but he's just fucking dogshit
>>735158581you're being kind of pedantic. people meme on it but obviously it's not literally unplayable. it IS pretty much the last card you'd want as silent, however.
>>735158659Sorry I don't have infinite time to nolife and have to take things more slowly>>735158704>What's the point of this card?>Discuss it>Umm you're being le pedantic it's a meme!okay
>>735158581It's pretty hard to see a situation where you take a floor 1 snakebite. Maybe if you have a forced early elite and neither other card does damage but you probably shouldn't be on that path in the first place. If anything what makes more sense is getting toward the end of the act with no way to kill the first boss so you take it out of desperation.
Finally got the copy option from the clay dragon, is there any card here worth copying?
>>735158874you clearly have just a touch of tism so I'll leave you be. snakebite remains objectively a shit card
>>735158945after image and get shivs
>>735158874I just don't understand the point of defending a dogshit card>It's not as bad as people think!Yes it is. it's pretty much as bad as it gets without being unplayable. All you're saying is that you can technically click the card earlygame without losing on the spot which isn't high praise.
>>735158135I've had some success with having it as my one poison option in an otherwise finished deck running some other build. Since snecko skull is still in the game, bouncing flask can really outdo it. Maybe it should be 7 poison + 1 weak (upgrade increases poison, but maybe not weak?) with retain, would make it a lot more workable for its cost. Now it serves as a retained damage mitigator on top of poison, and fits thematically.
How the fuck did they think Souls were okay. This is fucking retarded
>>735159143perhaps increase the poison value by 1(2 upgraded) every turn it's retained?
>>735158991>No uI accept your concession>>735158938The act 1 boss was lagavulin and you usually have a lot of time to set up your first few turns. The other picks were not only not damage, but options that scaled very poorly with his debuffs.And yes, I upgraded it through the run and worked well enough during acts 1 and 2, by the time act 3 rolled the deck was so powerful it didn't need it so I obviously didn't play it much.The easiest way to slot it on a turn is defending with untouchable for 1 mana (you can either acrobatics into it, or prepared into it, or survivor if the draw order is lenient, all of which are commons so it's not unlikely to happen) and it works.>>735159059The point is that the card is not great and the numbers could be higher, but there's situations where picking it is the best possible option and using the best available means to mitigate RNG in order to win is a skill necessary to be good at this game.And instead of saying "ayy lol what a shit card who'd ever pick that" and autoskipping when it's offered recognizing where you're on a situation that can take advantage of it as the the best option instead of being fucking decimated by the boss lifting your arms and saying I GOT NO GOOD OPTIONS FUCKING RNG is part of the game. It was the first step towards a poison build that won me the game as posion is better the more cards you have. Two rooms before the boss I got offered a deadly poison. If I just had a deadly poison because I skipped the snakebite, killing the boss by posion would've been impossible. Since I have two cards that added poison that I could play, I won.
>>735158704Retarded, it does shit on its own so it's going to be better than like 30% of her cards in a lot of situations just off that. If you don't already have poison it's way better than Accelerant or Bubble Bubble, of you don't have shivs it's better than any of the shiv synergies that don't make their own, if you need scaling to kill a boss it's better than any of her shitty attacks like Slice or Memento Mori with no discard etc>>735159059You seem emotionally invested in it being bad for some reason. It isn't good, but it can do stuff you need, if you refuse to take it in any situation you're going to lose more runs than if you recognize when it fills a niche that can save a key matchup or add just enough output to win the race against a boss. Even if other cards would be better anyone can win the runs where they get offered all the good cards they want, you have to know how and when to use the other cards if you want to win the runs that aren't free too.
>>735159374Just because a card is shit doesn't mean you never click it. I click shit cards when I have no other option. That doesn't make them good
>>735159374>but there's situations where picking it is the best possible optionthat's true of virtually every single card, snakebite has arguably the least number of scenarios where picking it is the best. you have no capacity for social cues, when people say "this is the worst day ever" they don't mean that no day in history has ever been worse. Exaggeration is common and accepted in discussion.
>>735159474I never said it was good, I said it was overhated.>>735159518I accept your second concession
>>735159443>it does shit on its ownafter spending 2 energy to play it. In nearly ever situation you'd rather use that 2 energy on something else. If you don't already have poison, you don't pick snakebite at all because you're not building poison already and snakebite is a dogshit card to begin doing so with. If you've reached a boss and haven't started making ANY build yet, your run is already awful. Snakebite being the best choice at hand should've made that clear.
>>735159059it's less defending and more explaining. it's not that it's a good card you're just not using it right. even when you use it right, it's still not very good. but it really isn't as bad as you think. for example you should never actually "play" it. if you're using mana on it then you're using it wrong.
>>735159582I don't think it is overhated though. people rate it appropriately by saying it's a very bad card. Unless you want everyone to preface their criticism with "but I would pick this card if I had literally no other source of damage whatsoever" when they shit on a damage card.
Snakebite is obviously the worst card in the game. The nature of the game just makes it such that even the worst card in the game can still be used. It'll be buffed showing even the devs acknowledge how bad it is.
>>735159183Necro in general is massively overtuned. I understand it's a new character and early access and there's years of balance patches to come but how do you spend that many years developing STS1 and look at Necro and go "yeah that seems balanced"
>>735159664>for example you should never actually "play" itI'll keep this in mind when I click it on floor 1 like the other guy apparently did. I'm sure I'll have plenty of hand tricks and pounces to enable it then!
>>735159374even into laga boss I would take a cloak and dagger over a snakebite. You have an entire act to find a better way to deal damage than that.
>>735159664>but it really isn't as bad as you thinkWhich cards are worse and why? If snakebite is one of the worst cards in the game, then using powerful language while criticizing it is totally appropriate.
>>735159609It does 2 less poison than bouncing flask and isn't shit in multi enemy fights, you're massively overstating how bad it is
>>735159443>it's normal to have zero deck synergies by the time you reach a bosssnakebite's most powerful defender
>>735144170I want to buttfuck this card
>>735159041>Got Venerable tea set right afterThanks for the tip, I literally cant lose now.
>>735159819It actually is shit in multi enemy fights thoughI would never want this in my hand against the parasite or the centipedeOr any multi enemy fight in act 2. or any act 1 advanced hallway. in fact I struggle to think of a fight where I would ever think "hmm I wish I had a snakebite here"
>>735144170the game is literally 0 or 1, you either lose or win, there's 0 planning involved because you don't actually get to choose what shows up other than simply choosing a routealso the game is the worst card game i've ever played, it's just damage, it's all just damage and nothing elseunironically hellcard has been more entertaining than this
Tried a Silent shiv deck for the first time holy shit this card fucks
>>735159819An expensive card that deals damage very slowly to one enemy and provides no defense is awful in multi enemy fights, which are about mitigating damage while removing at least one threat ASAP, or building up a game state where you'll nullify the threats of everything or wipe everything once you reach a certain point. A similar card being slightly worse in this scenario where both cards are terrible is no defense of snakebite, which remains one of if not the worst cards in the game.
>>735159771every card is good or bad in the context of your deck. accuracy is the worst card in the game if you don't have any cards that create shivs.reflex and tactician are the worst cards in the game is you have no discard.speedster is the worst card in the game if you don't have cards that draw. actually speedster might just be the worst.
>>735159357That too would be cool.
>>735159930yw broski, one after image is fine, any additional ones are busted. Luv me silent>>735159968I was thrilled when I first found it.
I shouldn't have underestimated all for one.
>>735151684>>735145718I've literally never lost to the statue, but these fucking eels have ended multiple runs.
>>735159987It's not even the worst card in silent's pool. That would be Grand Finale.
>>735160163um akshually grand finale is great when i have runic pyramid and a bunch of acrobatics and prepared and reflex or whatever so you can't criticize it, you're just using it wrong
>>735160163>grand finaleWhat's even the point without gamba.
>>735160039All of those cards synergize well with the mechanic they're associated with. Snakebite is outclassed in almost every scenario by every other poison card. You're making a meaningless statement, "every card is bad in some situations!" Snakebite is bad in more situations than almost (maybe entirely) every other card. If you lean into draw, speedster will do far more damage than snakebite. If you lean into poison, snakebite is outclassed by other options. So I ask again, which cards are worse and why? I'm not asking which cards are worse without any synergizing cards because that's a retarded question and no one is going to pick cards without synergy in mind. Do you think that, in general, accuracy, reflex, and tactician are worse than snakebite?
>>735160163retardfinale isn't even hard to set up with all of silent's draw tools, which you always want to be picking up anyways. It's enough damage to make it your end game damage plan by itself.
>>735159947>in fact I struggle to think of a fight where I would ever think "hmm I wish I had a snakebite here"your fletchettes+ with tiny cannon?your pounce and hand trick with sneko skull?your bullet time?the beauty of these types of games is piecing together things that work with each other. individually very few cards are good enough on their own. it's building the deck and having those "oh i have this so this would be good" moments.
>>735160163You're right, snakebite jockeys for position with grand finale for worst and second worst. A magnificent step up in its standing, to be sure.
>>735160275>All of those cards synergize well with the mechanic they're associated with>>735159738>I'm sure I'll have plenty of hand tricks and pounces to enable it then!just fuck off at this point. you're being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. you understand that some cards are situational and need other cards to be good. so you're technically capable of understanding that in some scenarios, snakebite can be good if you have the other cards that make it good.
>>735159759Why would I pick a card that doesn't attack or defend enough and leans into the worst archetype for the act 1 boss... instead of the card that leans into the best archetype for the act 1 boss?Nigga you don't deckbuild to "prove a point" or anything like that. You build a deck to win. The lagavulin is easier to beat when you use poison, that was true in StS1 and is true here. I got a posion card. The others were not damage or low damage. I picked the poison card and tried to pick cards that allowed me to play it. I did. And I won. That's all there is to it.Would I have picked a posion flask instead of snakebite if they were offered together? Yeah no fucking shit of course I would've, posion flask is much better. But I got two unpickable cards and bad playable one and I took the playable one.Looking at this shit through the lens of tiered lists is why so many players struggle with this game.
>>735160302>flechettesdoesn't do anything any other skill doesn't do>pounce and hand trickflask is better and other poison cards are only marginally worse>bullet timethis is its single best use and it doesn't stand out compared to other poison cards because its effect is not notably stronger than almost any of them.Slay the spire is great because every card CAN be used, snakebite just has the fewest situations where using it is a good idea.
>>735160302>your pounce and hand trick with sneko skullwhy would I even want snakebite if i have snecko skull? that's one situation where the gap between bouncing and snakebite becomes even greateryou're cherry picking obscure interactions and even in those interactions snakebite wouldn't be my first choice, it's still mediocre at best. I would never add it to my deck if I'm already dealing damage with flechettes+ and tiny cannon, I would look for skills that actually improve my deck in a meaningful way
>>735160425>you understand that some cards are situational and need other cards to be goodand that snakebite has fewer situations than nearly every other card. If you disagree with that, fine. If you want to remain smug and attacking the strawman that is "this card can NEVER EVER be used EVER!" then keep jacking yourself off, retard.
>>735160462>doesn't do anything any other skill doesn't doit doesn't? how many other silent skills have retain?>flask is better and other poison cards are only marginally worseand what happens if you don't draw flask on the same hand as pounce?you are intentionally ignoring how useful having retain is. that's why there are other powers/skills/upgrades/potions/relics that the only thing they even do is let you retain
>>735160425>you understand that some cards are situationalnearly every card in the game is situational. you aren't actually saying anything here, you're saying the bad card is actually okay because there are rare situations where it isn't so bad. and btw it's still shit if I have pounce and hand trick, I would much rather enable good cards instead of fucking snakebite even then.
>>735160440We have two arguments that are irrelevant to each other colliding here. One person is saying "x is one of the worst options available to y," and another is saying "x is the best option available to y sometimes." Both of these can be true but the second as a response to the first is pointless.
>>735144170So your complaint is that the game tries to challenge you rather than allow you t win? Why are you even playing?
>>735160496>I would never add it to my deck if I'm already dealing damage with flechettes+ and tiny cannonthen i take back what i said about you being able to understand things. you obviously can't.if you draw 5 cards, would you rather have 4 skills and fletchettes, or 4 skills and fletchettes plus another skill that you retained from earlier? what's more damage between 10x4 and 10x5?
>>735160059Lmao now I got Throwing Axe. 5 is better than 4 I guess.
>>735160440>Why would I pick a card that doesn't attack or defend enough and leans into the worst archetype for the act 1 boss... instead of the card that leans into the best archetype for the act 1 boss?because you have an entire act to play through before that boss, and cloak and dagger will be more useful for the act than snakebite. You're often going to take chip damage in hallways trying to play snakebite while cloak and dagger is going to prevent it. Don't get me wrong I'm certainly not happy to have to pick any of those cards floor 1 but it's going to be better in the short term over snakebite.
>>735160591decks that build retain are usually going for draw and discard and pounce remains an uncommon pick for such a deck. Snakebite has use, which has been said by nearly every critic of it in this thread, its uses are just few and far between compared to most other options. I just think it needs a small buff, a very small numerical change is often the difference between a card being shit and that same card moving up to perfectly fine/borderline too powerful.
>>735160601>you're saying the bad card is actually okay because there are rare situations where it isn't so badbrother that's every card in the game. if snakebite is bad because it's not good in every situation every time then tactician is bad because it's not good in every situation? wtf you mean i have to spend 3 mana just to get 1 mana back? that's literally the worst card in the game. and i'm ignoring every interaction it has with any other cards and if you tell me what those interactions are then i'll dismiss them because i'm emotionally invested in it being bad and refuse to listen to logic
>>735160719Why would I want to add a brick to my deck just to deal slightly more damage with flechettes?
>>735160880>brother that's every card in the game.Do you think that every card in the game is as situational as snakebite, or do you finally realize that people are criticizing snakebite because its useful situations are less common?
>>735154412Clone event. -48 strenght on Queen easy game
>>735160794>its uses are just few and far between compared to most other options.and that's okay. not every card can be the best card in the game. some have to be worse than others. the game would be no fun if you just started with a single card that killed every enemy. if there's 2 cards, one of them has to be the worst. but being the worst doesn't mean useless.
>>735161045>some have to be worse than othersCorrect, with most cards in the game being the "others" compared to snakebite.
>>735160880You're deliberately missing the point now right? Tactician is the best card you could possibly have in certain situations, and it is commonly good in the vast majority of situations because discard is good in generalSnakebite is usually dogshit because there are better options available. You pick it when you find literally nothing else. Do these cards sound similar?
>>735160619This was the original post>What's the point of Snakebite? Why do I care about paying 1 mana more for what's essentialy deadly poison with retain?Every single post I made has been a reply to that question.I don't care about mathetically proving whether or not something is the objectively worst part of a charcter's kit, if that's what you wanted to argue, go off, I don't care about that conversation.>>735160756If you're interested about the stats, since (as you can tell) my start was pretty bad I took an easy 4 fights (3 easy fights and 1 hard fight) into a couple of events and elites. I suffered a whole 3 HP of chip damage on my hallway fights. Then I did 3 elites and lost 22HP, most of which was to the fucking sulking colony nigger faggot. I fought all three elites.>Sulking colony: 11 HP>Terror eel: 9HP >Gardners: 2HPI healed to full once with an event (lucky, since I took damage to remove a strike and a defend floor 1) and didn't heal again in the whole act.
whats "greater rewards"?
>>735161045I love how hard the goalposts have shifted. Inital argument: snakebite is actually good and people are dumb for criticizing itFinal argument after backpedaling: snakebite is fine because not every card can be the best or even good, and that's fineI love contrarians who argue just for the sake of it
>>735160286This anon >>735160220already preempted you
>>735161192>snakebite is actually good and people are dumb for criticizing itfor the record i never once said it was good. my first post was "even when you use it right, it's still not very good"i had only hoped to help people understand the times when it can be useful but i guess it's more important to believe that it's useless than it is to understand the cases in which it can be useful
>>735161192really seems like one dude saying stupid shit to bait and a lot of people taking said bait, what can you do
>>735158143Be proud you're not some faggot looking up how to easily beat the game and are instead learning it as you go.
>>735161116>i don't care about the conversation being had, but i'm going to continuously interject in itcool
>>735161192We've had a couple of anons like that hereThere was a guy a couple nights ago who insisted on trying to force Astral Pulse vs Seven Stars as an argument
>>735161516lmao, move the threads to /vg/ already. the personalities have begun making themselves known.
>>735161171the best spit roast of your life
I just don't like how everything is a damage race.
>>735161171>greater rewards>look inside>random relic plus regular rewardsI guess they are technically correct
>>735161636play necro. You can spam your OP block cards for a long time before most enemies out scale you.
>>735161668Hey, pocket watch is goated so congrats.
>>735161636then do a block build, everyone has at least one. ironclad has body slam, defect has ice, necro has doom, regent probably has the hardest time focusing it, silent has blue with poison or draw/discard.
Why would someone even care to climb the spire?Why would someone want to kill the spire?Why are the ancients in the spire?
>>735161668pranked
>>735161728>block buildThe two times I've tried it on Ironclad I got fucked because I got the sandworm and couldn't kill him fast enoughOn silent it works because of sly and 0 cost cards. On defect it also works But it's not a foolproof end-all solution.
>>735161668I wouldn't be surprised if it changes the relic and makes it always rare if you take the fight (since this is clearly a double orb walker reference) while the top option is actually just a random relic.
>>735161737>Why would someone even care to climb the spire?>Why would someone want to kill the spire?ironclad's demon is making him, silent likes to hunt and is now poisoned, defect woke up there, watcher is le curious, regent is le bored, necro woke up there>Why are the ancients in the spire?they're weirdos
why does the story say necrobinder is pregnant and at least one or two months so because she knows shes pregnant but shes running around playing adventurer around the dangerous spire pouring out monsters and then decides to go up it because some random guy said trust me
GGs. This card is insane in multiplayer. The upgrade was useless though
>>735161849yeah most builds have someone that fucks with em. Only a couple of builds are currently overtuned such that they're "foolproof end-all solutions." That's what playtesting is for.
GG guys. I couldn't do much thought. Silent running Poison when Catalyst is removed>>735161889Isn't that supposed to be her parents?
Need a normal dude character.Just a human dude.Without special powers or demonic pacts or what else.Reason to climb the spire? Dude is in debt and must climb the spire for gold and relics to sell.
>>735161889that's necro's parents, they fell in love in the spire. the party they entered with died over the course of what seems like years
>>735161963I was just over here playing Huddle Up+ so the rest of you get a free Draw 3 while I turtle with double Afterimage and a lot of dex keeping me blocking everything and do no damage because poison is BAD without Catalyst existing
>>735161963>>735161991Nice game, nice game, now let me not play any cards for my turn...HOWEVER extra turn
>>735162018>just a normal dudeand why wouldn't he get his shit pushed in?
>>735149551it wouldve been so good (but still not broken) if it was gain block when you forge
>>735162041still doesn't answer how a pregnant human woman is fit to be anywhere near the spire and it sounds like the spire is big and you can spend a long time in there so in a couple months time shed be totally unfit to survive in there
>>735162331it used to be a forge card itself of unknown value and block for 10 (13) when playing the sword and I think that's enough to make it bad but maybe sort of playable maybe. Really what it needs is a way to upgrade the sword reliably other than the one tooth relic that upgrades it when played, then the concept of putting it back on top of the deck and playing it every turn actually works.
>>735162407the meta answer is because the devs wanted necro to have been born in the spire. the story answer is because the party that went in were supposed to be supreme badasses. also the spire had places that were relatively normal, remember act 2 in the first game was "the city", and the people who went in were going in to learn about the spire not necessarily attack it, so maybe the mom chilled for a while during the worst of the pregnancy.
>>735162407Reminder that apparently The Boss went into combat while pregnant before the events of MGS3, and had to give birth through a very fucked c-section on the battle field. The snake shaped scar on her tummy is supposed to be the c-section, but it's nowhere where a c-section scar should be
Hearthstone is down and I got a win. First time I was offered Sealed Throne and it giga carried. What a poorly balanced game haha!
Well, that was the easiest run by far.Clone is way too busted, I think I only took damage 2 times.
>>735144313I'm never going to think of Shrink the same way again.
>>735162554i expect dumb shit from kojima
Alignment should be 1 star and exhaust
Please someone leak the brat Regent mod!
>>735145671Astral Pulse is so good for any multi-enemy encounter. Love using it on these guys.
>>735161963Strength down is amazing in multiplayer. It's always great having a Silent that took Piercing Wail and Malaise, or a Regent that took Crush Under and Resonance.
bitch
royal gamble is the best card art in the game
>>735163242Clash is legitimately a good early game card before you add ascender's bane to your deck. You removed a defend already so it's literally never unplayable.
>>735163389I know but funny meme
>>735144313Underrated art
>>735145718statue fucks up my runs out of nowhere
>>735162871I do not respect beggars, so no.
first time clearing with necro, Discovery is a fun card
>>735163521I finished Fist of the North Star but I didn't finish this despite really enjoying it. I dunno, it was a very thinly veiled excuse for more Kenshiro.
Anyone know a great link/site for doing tier lists on slay the spire 2 cards for streaming/recording?
>>735164407Is this a botpost
i literally cant win a10 defect and the more i play this game the less i understand and enjoy it
Take a fucking guess what he average cost of this was on my run go ahead. Motherfucking dogshit piece of shit mega crit.
>>735165264...1?
>>735162018https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1783016812
>>735164794I'm watching people streak to see what I'm doing wrong. There's still a lot I'm doing wrong.
Prolong+ is my favorite card. It saves me so much. Also, can you play multiplayer pirated? I want to play with someone, but I'm 75% sure they won't like the game and don't want to spend $25 figuring it out.
>>735144170i finally won with regentthis build was nearly infinite
>>735165490only if both copies are pirated, it's on onlinefix
I'd play multiplayer but I'm not touching any steam socials. If only there was in-game lobby instead.
i guess squeeze existing and fetch only being bad on the bee guy is supposed to be an incentive to just take osty attacks when the come up because theres a chance you end up pulling the exact right cards for a rattle/sic'em build or you just pull squeeze. i think its hard to scale either of these to beat end game but for better or for worse, souls patch up your block and attack.
Yeah, I'm thinking it's based.
has anyone shared the regent loli mod yet?
>>735166208kill youself trany
This is such bullshitYou cant enchant cards from other classes?
>>735166208there are numerous places where it would be far more fruitful to ask this, so you're surely begging here multiple times per thread to annoy people.
>>735166447Corrected pic
I love being an Ironchad
Am I willing to throw the whole run for the memes?Ye
>>735166513>choose a skill
>>735166564yeah I remembered that after postingits been a long day man Im tired.
>>735166547yes
>>735166547post deck size at end of run pls
>>735166623>>735166630There's three shops in the way mind you
10 hours of playtime20 runs2 winsYeah, I'm basically god.
>>735166661
>>735144170You're just really bad at the game https://youtu.be/c9St3dlV0_8
First A10 win, and surprisingly Regent did it, also surprisingly the MVP card was Metamorphosis.
I swear they changed the map generation algorithm, the shop is NEVER where you fucking need it.Always somewhere near the end on a path with no elites.
>>735166661We're waiting for the deck size screenshots.
>>735167019Wait I still have one shop left
>>735167056
>>735167056Merchant gonna jump out the screen and strangle you boy, boo-wee.
>>735166895elites are overrated, I would rather save my hp and upgrade a card in addition to looking for a card that I like and removing a block in the shop
Free cast potion is fun lol
>>735167097>>735167227I somehow made it to the final boss but I'm not feeling my chances bros. I had to fight three fucking elites with this dogshit poopoo deck to go through all three shops.
>>735167564just b urself
>>735167564>71 cardsBeautiful.
>>735167564Press that Panic Button. Nothing will go wrong.
>>735156505Holy shit. Imagine 3 pommel strikes.
incoming damage is just way too fucking much
A9 onwards is just misery jesus fuck, any tips?
>>735167991Just kill them before they can do any damage
>>735167991get more block duh
>>735167991your "weak" cards?
I'm completely hard stuck in ascension 10This feels impossible
>>735166174>Mayhem>Voidform>triple cast mayhem>next turn, mayhem casts void form and immediately ends my turn>elite fucking oneshots me
>Blocks your pathno but seriously why is act 3 bosses so fucking EASY?
>>735167606>>735167654>>735167767I don't even know how to describe what's going on here, sorry for taking so long but this is some insane fucking crazy shit
>>735168413Holy fucking finally. Jesus take the wheel.
>>735167991typically I try to either:>kill them>block themThat usually works
Best card in the game. It just auto wins the run.
>>735168376these niggers are either cleared ez in 3 turns or are a guaranteed 10 turn death sentence for me
>do very easily in multiplayer, stress free fun time>try to solo play>fail repeatedlyam I washedam I just badI had all the energy but ZERO DRAW
>>735168327>get History Course>play Shadowstep without triggering Sly on any other cards>eat shit next turnMistakes were made.
>>735168493What a tale.
>>735168528It lost me my run because it wasn't enough draw ;_;
>>735168413>>735168493Kino.
>fighting the waterfall in a dogshit regent run>lolzdps>extremely long battle with it, probably 50+ turns>whittle it down while I'm at like 2 life>its nuke will kill me 30x over>doesn't immediately explode>gives me a turn to smack itget dealt a full fucking hand of block shit, zero draw or any kind of attacks
Here's the final snapshot.Do not do this at home, mayhem playing 4 cards every turn won me the game as easily as it could've lost it. I don't even know how I won. I played the blade at the beginning of the fight and had to cycle through my entire 71 card deck to find it praying that mayhem wouldn't play it on the intangible fucker.Thank fuck it didn't play panic button either.
>3 footworks>2 abrasives>1 mad science>kunaiThe thornes build is real. At that point I only put in 2 shiv cards for kunai and one bouncing flask and the rest was just block.
>>7351466561 key is from the recall option at a campfire. That will force you to skip 1 rest or upgrade. Another is from a regular chest and if you take it you have to skip the relic inside. And the last piece is from defeating the burning elite that will keep showing up each act on the map until you take it down. Doesn't matter what order you do them in but waiting until the last campfire to recall is a recipe for forgetting. Nothing sucks more than to have a perfect run and forget to recall at the last node.
>>735168493ive had decks with less cards than you have buffs
>>735168528neurosurge is this but literally better
>>735168609You're not supposed to take every cards lard ass
>can't use potionsI see no downside
>>735168031Climb with others you have at lower ascension and come back when your skill level has improved from doing that. I was never able to beat a20 in sts1 until I got to a20 with everyone first
>>735167790OHHHHH POMMELINGGGG!!!
Regent>>>Silent>Necro>ironchad
why did they make silent uglier in some of the card arts?
>>735169134*zaps you with a lightning orb*
>Did a run where all my attacks were just free super expensive regent/defect card and multihitting cards from silent/defect
>>735169210in my head she is tall and sexy like in the placeholder art
>>735168738What's the biggest deck anyone has won with? That's a huge deck. Mine was like 60 with the relic that duplicates every card you take/buy. If you got that combined with prayer wheel I bet you could break 100 easily. But I was still trying to avoid picking bad cards.
Ok, we'll wait
>>735144170Maybe you just aren't the sharpest tool in the shed
>>735169380>card duplicate relic>deck doubler event150 is doable
>>735169380I've seen a 2k deck from the clone relic
Fucking hilarious run>Innate 1 cost power that makes all other Powers cost 1 less>Two Afterimage+s (they have Innate)>have multiple copies of all the Poison related Powers>Relic that deals 8 AOE damage whenever a Power is used
>>735144170There are evil gnomes behind your monitor that seek to actively troll you and sandbag your runs. Your success in a run is determined on a whim by them, you'd best hope you catch them in a good mood
>>735169467There's also the relic that gives 15 gold per card added combined with Bing Bong means every card purchased at the merchant gives 30 gold. Add in the courier and you can buy a ton of cards with some being gold positive purchases.
>new patchah nice....>Players, enemies, and pets can no longer have their HP increased above 999,999,999uhhh okay..
How do you fight the fake merchant? I came across him with foul potions and it doesn't let me throw them at him.
>>735168830You can only play neurosurge once.
>Got the History Course from the Key event.>Can't deal 400 dmg with one move because he goes intangible next turn.What a bummer...
>>735170120idk what to tell you, just throw one at him like you would at a regular merchant
>>735144313cute
>>735168971i am at a9+ with everyone anon...
>>735170292I bet it's a bug because I was playing with a controller. Thanks for confirming that's all you gotta do I'll double check and report it next time I come across it. The relic bar and potions are still buggy in general with a controller.
>Innate power to generate 1 star per card played>Black Hole power to deal 3 damage every generation or use of star>Free damage everywhere>Particle WallRegent is so much fun with the right cards.
>>735170227Just get Clone on a Celestial Spear and make 128 copies of it
>>735170460Damn anon I didn't think anyone climbed that high with every character already. Maybe you just need to take your time to win more? I bet your average run time is fast if you are at a9 with everyone.
20 fucking hours and I finally got my first win
>>735170729I have like 75 hours, I don't think it's that impressive.
>>735170739Congratz. Who with?
Just got an a10 win in with a Speedster silent deck. Really dumb card, all you have to do is get 3 acrobatics and you basically just win if you have any decent block at all.
>>735170843defect
>>735170821that means your games are less than an hour a run on average. You are playing super fast
>>735171004It's true that I tend to play on intuition a lot. it works a lot of the time but when it doesn't well I get punished hard on high ascension. Same happened in the first game for me. Guess I need to slow down for some of these decisions perhaps.
>>735171160Makes sense. I haven't played quite as much as you yet because it's mentally exhausting to take it slow try to think hard. I can only play a few hours that way at a time before I fry my brain.
>defect run>transform 2 and -10 max HP>strike and defend into swiping beam and buffer
creative ai my beloved
>>735144170i realize i have slay the spire 1 in my steam library for some reasonshould i pony up the 25 for 2 or just play 1?
>>7351721192 is pretty similar to one. are you not sure whether or not you'll like it? play 1 for a while
>decide to make defect the first I get to A10>9-6 when I get to A9>10-47 to finally win A9can't believe I got this many relics with one elite and especially bless Lost Wisp in my power build runwell time for A10
>>735172285a9 really is a filter. Considering how much this game is about minimizing attrition, the small damage boost fucks a lot of builds before they get off the ground
>>735148906Fuck that bee nigger for real.
>>735148906That faggot counters shivs harder than time eater ever did. It's the kind of mechanic I would expect from an act 3 boss not an elite.
im sure the gameplay is really good but why does the art style look like a 15 year old made it for their newgrounds flash game in 2007? 500k players on steam they couldnt pay an artist to make a cool artstyle?
weak bait
cool game, bro. i guess ill fuck myself.
>>735172817it looks like adventure quest
>>735172442I certainly did learn a lot about deck building over 40 lossesnow to learn some more for 2 bosses because I cut it close with 1 as it is
>>735172782Post some of those games you think look similar. Slay the Spire's art style looks unique to me, and that's what I want. It's not generic like all of the photorealism, anime, or pixel styles.
>>735172829i dont get it man. this game is butt ugly. how is anyone playing this game. no offense to the people enjoying it.
>>735173045i do enjoy the game, but fuck... it do be bullshitty sometimes
>>735173027it looks like this old game i used to play called adventure quest. and i also think the cards weirdly lack fidelity. a game with better looking cards imo is balatro.
>>735173045It looks great
Slay the Spire LOOKS GOOD. They should've went harder and make more enemies even weirder. Too many are too normal.
>>735173149This looks nothing like Slay the Spire.
>>735173149>Balatrokek that looks like shit compared to STS. At least pick something original. Balatro is just generic jester and card suits with a blurry pixel filter. If you really think STS looks like Adventure Quest you are just blind.
>>735173227I miss Deca and Donu
>>735173149It's the two mostly inanimate dudes staring each other down that gives it that Flash game feel.
>>735173149>adventure questman that's a blast from the past
>>735171607>echo form and creative AI and a lot of focus and glacier and some nonsenseUnsurprisingly, I won.
>>735172829>consistently have to go to the bottom of my deck for critical Power cards>always drawing status bullshit on a fresh deckI hate it here.
>>735173149>this actually got replieseven after he gave himself away with the balatro comment?
>entire game is based on "get as little cards in your deck as possible"gets a little old ngl
>>735173860that elite can be either a breeze or a total fucking nightmare.
>>735147503Vakuu's my nigga I trust him with my life
I'm struggling to have fun with Necrobinder.What am I missing?
>>735174224what have you attempted to do?
>>735171338I went a bit more slowly and managed to craft a disgusting infinite silent deck, turns out playing slightly slower and making important decisions slower is beneficial. Thanks!
>>735173956you can do the opposite and overbuild with a fuckload of draw/discard/exhaust technology
>>735174292otsymaxxin and doomstackin
>>735174125true he also looks so suave i'd love to have accompany to the top of the spire him let him do whatever he wants with my deck and me
>>735174224the only time i've had fun with necro was with reaper formthe rest of the runs i've won on her were really boring soul(less) infinites
>>735174224pick the good block cards and tank upsummon both lets you carry extra block over to cover for bad draws and also scales up your unleash damage, so you're actually still progressing even when you just block. Souls are obviously good, and she has a couple of powers that give you decent damage just from spamming blocks and stuff.
>>735174385doomstacking is legit but unless you're used to her it can feel lacking without finding a couple of key cards, especially end of days. Ostymaxxing is hard to make work with good card rewards. You want sick em, you want squeeze, you want sweeping gaze if you can get it. It requires luck. You can go in intending to doomstack and expect to find the cards you need, b ut ostymaxxing generally only works if it happens on accident. You can't really do both. Tried and true method is souls. Souls and doom work really well together. Doom cards often give block, souls let you draw them.
What's your most improved card from 1 to 2, /v/?
>"The first time you gain block from a card, double it">>Two copies doesn't make it 3x or 4x, it just makes it the first two times>"When you draw a card containing 'strike', play it against a random enemy">>Two copies of this does nothing at allHow come Ironclad isn't allowed to have fun
>>735174546I can tell you the biggest downgrade is Electrodynamics being turned into glass orbsAlso I need a Glass Him edit with the Defect now
>millipede tooltip says it will revive in two turns>it actually revives in one turn
>>735174546Claw and it's not even close.
>>735174826was claw even changed? I know it got a shit load of support with feral
>>735174546I've been picking the 0 cost Defect draw 2 card way more often now that he has status support
>>735174934The upgrade makes it scale harder now. Before it was a flat damage bonus.
I think they overcomitted a bit with the status archetype on defect. A couple of status related card and manipulation is nice but it shouldn't be a full archetype.
>>735166547If you've already got a solid deck going, Bing Bong can be insanely good by just picking powers or things like Claw
just got some kind of strange crash when reloading a run. map was completely fucked and wouldnt let me pick a spot to go, after another save and reload the screen was completely black.absolutely no help or information about this only about a black screen crash that happens on game start up, this happen to anyone and you fix it?
>>735144313Cute art anon. Thanks for sharing.
>>735175428Ironclad had the exhaust synergy to go with it, especially stuff like second wind. Defect can't really handle filling his deck with status since recycle is a bit worse now and the only other way he has is rare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUuQWVS3PQ0Made another showcase of how utterly brainless Sly is even when you have a mediocre deck. I honestly feel like it might be impossible to lose on A10 as Silent if you don't make any major mistakes
GLASS ORBS FUCKING SUCK
>>735175729Glass orbs kill the Centipedes and you will love them for it
>>735175592Sorry we don't help cheaters here
>>735175729Glass orbs feel okay.
>>735175710Losing with the silent on a10 is just losing in act 1. If you get out of act 1 you always win.
>>735175592Locking this thread. We don't condone piracy here.Prove you bought the game and we may overturn your ban from this forum.
>>735175729Glass orbs are basically lightning with a stronger passive but a weaker evokeExcept in AoE fights where they're just a straight-up upgrade unless you've gone hard into a lightning-focus build
>>735175592Your save is corrupted, you need to delete it.
>>735161635>Ironchad choosing to get spitroasted by automabrosIronxisters...
>>735175913electrodynamics was better
>>735175913unlike lighting/frost which have a flat bonus glass do 2x their base damage on evoke, so they scale harder with focus than other orbs.
I play a couple of runs every day and I still haven't seen the clone option.
>>735175729just hard cycle them, I feel like glass benefits from less orb slots to evoke faster and scale well with focus
Anybody up for one? HostingWait there's an update?>Added portrait art for the following cards:>Feeding Frenzy>Sloth>Waste AwayI hope we get Knowledge Demon nowsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243102322086/76561198043831607We are A6. I repeat, A6
Hello my deck is 99 cards 64 of which are adrenaline.
>>735176160Yeah hold on for 3 hours and I will join after work.
>>735176303What'n the goddamn....
>>735176303I wonder if I can win this...
>>735176303Did you win?
>>735156505It's basically a guaranteed win if you have 2 graveblasts
How the fuck do I play this dude? Feels rough in coop.
>>735176594Just barely, only thanks to my superior skill and strategy.
>save and quitSurely you don't save scum StS, right, anon? That would be weird if you did.
>>735176901A couple of ways. Block and stack orbs. Or claw. He's my favourite in multiplayer
>>735176901his grey defense cards are amazing. leap and charge battery, good value. After that, choose how you wanna do damage. Lightning spam, feral + claw, or smokestack and statuses.
>>735176905wew, close one.
>>735176914I do confess.Sometimes I do a ordering mistake because of carelessness on the first turn. Then I redo my turn. I never redo more than the first turn though.
Are Elites even worth fighting? Relics don't seem too great in this game.
>>735145671This boss is fucked up in multiplayer.
>>735176914I do it every now and then if I make an egregious missclick. Did rest instead of smith way too often for some reason, so I reload at that point. Other than that I just don't do it, losing makes you play better after because you don't want to lose sick runs
>>735176914when I accidentally misclick with cleanse on turn 2 and exhaust something good instead of enthralled you bet I am going to save and quitThe only time so far I actually used it to redo a fight that went poorly was once, and that was a learning experience since I did nightmare on fumes vs the centipede and lost 50 hp and was sure that there was a better way to play the fight. Also fuck the centipede what the fuck is its problem.
>>735177087They also give higher rarity card chance and more gold. Relics sucking is a bit exaggerated, too.
>>735177087If you ask this question you definitely are not A10 and if you are you are never going to streak ever. This is THE definitive noob opinion.
>>735177087You people are fools.I take 4 elites every chance I get not because of the rewards but because I train myself in hellfire.If elites are truly not worth it, they will buff the rewards and then what? You weenies will not have been hardened enough to take them on.THINK, THINK
>get event fight in underdocks>run is now over when you see the 4th unavoidable hallway fightWhy is fight so fucking insane. Even at the end of the act there's no way this thing isn't at least chipping you for a ton of damage unless you're lucky enough to be able to burst it down. And if you see it this early you just die.
Anyone know this JapExport guy? He claims to be in top 5 Spire 1 players but I've been following the records for a few years and I don't think he held any, and even Baalor who isn't close to the top 5 held a rotating streak record for a good while.
>>735177087no. you have a higher chance of getting a rare card which are most of them are currently completely busted as fuck.
>>735177087It's a balance. If you have high hp and potions and you deck doesn't suck then you should be fighting them to trade up those resources. There are plenty of relics that actually do something. The main things to note is that act 1 is already pretty rough for most characters so it can be hard to fight too many of them, and in act 3 saving your resources for the boss instead is usually better since there's no act 4 or anything after the boss, so there's not much reason to get the long term gain of relics.
>>735177381why would I give a shit about some speedrunning tranny?
>>735177359you pretty much can't afford to attack the summons ever and need to put every bit of damage into the main body. But I do think it'll probably get a big nerf in the upcoming patch if not getting moved up to an elite like repto did.
>>735173045Much better looking than marathon, even with the MS paint art.
who trynna frickin play
>>735177381I saw him yesterday for the first time he was talking about hotkeys so I said: I can't use them because I need other hand to scratch my balls.He made a disgusted face and skipped my message.I don't know what that says about him or me.
>>735173045I think it actually looks worse than the first one, which already was not visually stunning. But there could be zero art whatsoever and I’d still play the shit out of it. It’s a card game.
Someone use one of these AI filters on some spire screenshots so I can see how it will look on DLSS5.
>>735177381He put Tyranny in D tier so I don't respect his opinion
What a concise, compact and deliberate deck.The entire win condition was playing as many sleight of fleshes as possible, then stacking replay on my one (1) copy of fear+ as many times as possible with Transfigure, making it cost 0 with veilpiercer and dealing 200 damage at once.Really strong cycling power.and ability to pivot with utilities discovering random cards.This was on A9.
>>735177665he did not read the card and was thinking it randomly exhausts a card. This is what happens when you rush to make a tier list without actually playing the game much first.Ironclad is similar and after saying how good the character is he goes and streams and spends most of the time dying in act 1, and when he actually gets past it and makes his infinite he still loses in act 3 while claiming it's because he's not paying attention and not seriously trying to win.
I wish Necro had better block cards. What is my Pull Aggro (11 block for 2 energy) going to do when everything hits for 20-30 a turn?
>>735177939shut up, chud
I suck at this game.
>>735144313Too old
>>735177381i just hate how dismissive his attitude towards every decision he makes is like they are all so obvious and don't matter and he could never lose instead of actually providing any meaningful insight but then his rotating pb is currently like 2 or 3 because he loses much more than his attitude would suggest
Ironclad seems kinda IronBAD desu. His Act 1 is so fucking shit and if you do not get Offering/Bloodletting with some other form of card draw you are completely fucked.If you make it through Act 1 while getting lucky with getting those pieces you auto-win. He unironically seems badly designed compared to every other character, ESPECIALLY Necro, Regent and Defect who actually feel like they have multiple functioning deck building choices.
>>735177939>has the best common block in the game>has baseline barricade
>>735177381He claims to have the second spot on sts1 Defect streak but I couldn't find the leaderboard he screenshotted to verify it so it could be a con for all I know.I've seen his tierlists and I don't like them because he spends 90 minutes jerking off about infinites without bothering to evaluate the rest of the cardpool and I just think having such a black and white mindset to evaluate cards on a game of this type is absolutely the wrong thing to do.
>>735177939start taking defy. its incredible. grave warden is also like 8 block no upgrade and helps you do soul stuff
>>735177939are you fucking retarded? necro is prolly second best blocker in the game after Defect
>>735178025I'm just wondering what data led him to the conclusion that he's one of the 5 best Spire players in the world.
>>735178101to be fair he pushed out those tierlists on like day 1 and its hard to have nuanced opinions on how good everything is besides the infinites when half his runs in that short time are carried by infinites or really good relics and card pulls.
>>735177939You have the card that applies weaken and the one that generates souls hell even the one that generates a nice chunk of doom too.Necro has some amazing block cardsNecro has good block cards
>>735178101Everytime I've seen this guy, it's about muh infinites and how supposedly it's easy to force them every run. I hate this guy because of retarded anons here parroting this retarded shit, they probably don't even have the game installed. A lot of winning decks I've made look like absolute shit with retarded cards and yet they work somehow. That's the magic of this game and fags like this dude ruin it for me. Fuck this dude and any retard here posting his tweets.
>>735177939what the fuck are you talking about? Even her starter bodyguard is a defend but with barricade built it.
>>735178397>soulsthey're getting nerfed bwo
>>735177939Necrobinder has an insane amount of good blocking cards man.>Bone shards blocks>Death's door if you apply doom (protip: borrowed time triggers it)>Defy>Enfeebling touch>Grave warden>Undeath>Shroud (whenever you apply doom, block)>Spirit of ash (whenever you play an ethereal card, block>Sacrifice+ cashes on your osty summon to blockPull aggro is not that bad, upgraded it's 14 block, and summon is inherently better than blocking.Negative pulse is a bit low blocking value but it combos well with death's door.Worst case scenario you can even upgrade bodyguard and that will go a long way to carry your act 1.
Weird run. This deck did not do anything very well in particular. I guess the Stone Sword and Apotheosis made all my attacks way above rate and thus good enough to clear the last bosses.
>>735178507Yeah, Apotheosis is usually enough to carry a run.
how the fuck do I heal the stupid hand
>>735176372Okay will wait 2 hr
>Fixed Hand Drill relic applying Vulnerable to the player if Burn card breaks their blocklmao that would have been the funniest way to lose a run
>>735178467>Negative pulse is a bit low blocking value but it combos well with death's door.It also combos with killing your enemy, especially in aoe fights. Having a basic defend that also puts out a big aoe is just a nice multi purpose card>>735178532there's only a single card that does it, spur. You instead just give it even more max hp.
>>735176160good run, necro more survivable than it seems, had crap luck in early cards but still made it work, souls were clutch it seems
>>735176914I savescum every run.
>>735178592>You instead just give it even more max hp.impossible to do when it dies in one fucking hit
>>735178413sorry but you're actually the retard here
>Splash gives a card from another character>Get Glass orbs right as these things appear.It's a really fun card.
>>735178656Did you miss the part where she has the best block cards? Your hand should not be dying like that.
>>735178613Your souls helped me so much because each one fuels me by giving me 2 strength per Arsenal+. Minion Strikes off of CHARGE!!! also count as colorless for purposes of Arsenal, and they of course count as created cards for Pillar of Creation. You saw me stacking strength and spamming skills to use Lunar Blast to secure the wins. But despite all that you saw me taking more damage than you every time because I had barely any real block pages besides 2 Gather Light+ and Cosmic Indifference
>>735178705sure bro lemme just restart 50 times until I get a good one early xD
>>735178101xecnar also shows up in his chat and they seem buddy buddy and they probably wouldn't be like that if this guy was just flat out lying in every bio and video intro about his record
>>735178689The card it makes being free makes it like an attack potion you have in your deck. It's actually a very strong card.
>>735169420lmoa
>>735178658>no argumentyou're probably the faggot himselfface it my dude infinites really aren't that big of a deal in this game once you are on A10
>>735178392That's why you take it easy, wait to play around with the cards long enough, discuss them online, and even wait for balance changes before rushing content. He's just spamming "top player" on every fucking video for views, and the worst part about it is that it worked becuase cattleniggas are retarded and will do the worst thing you could possibly do in this game: look at a tier list instead of thinking about the cards.And it's especially jarring when other accomplished players are either not posting tier lists, waiting, or when they get asked about it they still say that it's too soon to tell or that tier lists are nonsense becuase the game is on early access. Xecnar briefly showed a regent one that he made on stream with his thoughts and still said that it's not worth sharing them because the game is on early access. While this fag just keeps sperging about infinites and not reading any non-infinite card.
>>735178715yeah you were stacking 50-70 damage multi-hits regularly, well done, i'm realizing that osty builds aren't that fun but they're survivable
>>735178413he's right about some stuff altho he definitely underrates some cardsclasses like ironclad and silent have some major design flaws right now
Is there some tips for deck building etiquette when playing with randoms? I don't want to knuckle drag and contribute nothing but I also don't want to be that guy who turn 1 infinites every fight by act 3.
>>735178705eh you still have to pull the cards good to consistently grow osty by just blocking. osty dies all the time and its why bone shards and melancholy are good for a lot of decks. early game you have to get all the really good block cards and late game you have to be doing soul or dirge stuff to keep him growing, maybe sic em if you're also really lucky.
DORO!POMMERU SUTORAIKU!DORO!POMMERU SUTORAIKU!DORO!POMMERU SUTORAIKU!DORO!POMMERU SUTORAIKU!DORO!
>>735178613And here's the deck I hadGolden Axe was a mistake because I wasn't using enough cards even though I was doing a lot with what I hadImpatience became a liability because I had too many unnecessary attacks like Solar Strike+ or even that Knockout Blow occupying space in my hands and preventing me from using ImpatienceCrush Under was huge value in the early-mid game thanks to the strength loss on the mobs. We'd get wrecked by the multihits and stuff if I hadn't had that to tide us through Act 1 and most of Act 2. Resonance I got later but I don't think it mattered much compared to the MVP of 2 Arsenal+ fuelling strength into Lunar Blast+Gather Light I honestly only had for the block, and all the stars mattered for was spending on Alignment and the occasional Falling Star for Weak+Vuln which got less and less important as the run went on as you saw.Royalties I only got at the start of Act 3 so I could get a few gold on the way to the shop, that's it. Too late to honestly matter for anything>>735178878Yeah it wasn't a star abuse run with Radiance. It wasn't a Forge run. It wasn't a strictly exhaust card run. It wasn't a multihit abuse with Seven Stars or even Stardust run either. This was simply colorless gen with 2 Arsenal+ and spamming enough skills to make Lunar Blast delete things
>>735178853>While this fag just keeps sperging about infinites and not reading any non-infinite card.this is just false tho. he doesn't say just skip everything thats not infinite and does talk about the other cards and even says to skip the infinite pieces sometimes if it will make you lose your more immediate fights by being useless.
>>735178853other streamers are retarded, they should be pumping out misinfo day 1 while the game's still hot and milking those views
Don't care I will still fall asleep to baalor runs
>>735179553you don't create a following and reputation by spreading retarded opinions, especially not in the STS community who is particularly autistic about this shitMost people are bad though so it might work out
sort of hot take but i don't think people should be mad at japaneseexport for trying to get the content creation grift going with some very early tier lists. he absolutely did the tier list format and did it so early because it gets the most clicks. at the same time he also says these probably will change in just a few days because its so early. for the people who can recognize that it just serves as a starting point for some discussion and isn't really so evil. its really hard to financially support investing time into being good at this game and to grow interest around high level play. if someone near that level can start growing that whole content creation scene its great for everyone in the end. the alternative is there is very little interest in high level play and we get less competitors and less content about how to play at high level.inb4 someone calls me japaneseexport and tells me to start my stream already
>>735177939Necrobinder is obscenely broken, she literally has infinites off of just 2 uncommon cards.
>>735179780You're allowed to grift but i'm also allowed to call you a retard. if being a clown is your job then laughing at you for your stupid opinion is a thing i can do
>>735179780Sorry Japaneseexport I couldn't read your post, too busy scratching my balls.
>>735179852Necrobinder is the strongest character by far. Has the easiest Act 1 and easily snowballs into immortality pretty soon after.I feel like currentlyNecro > Defect > Regent > Silent >>>>> Ironclad
