Fromsoft and Miyazaki have hired you to come up with the final boss of ELDEN RING®: NIGHTREIGN™ 2
>>735151003No they haven't. Who the fuck told you this, and why would you even believe them?
>>735151003Zanzibart, the Forgiven
>>735151003Nigerian prince tier thread
>>735151328Kino
Nightreign is overly designed slop“We can do cool cosmic-y backgrounds too you know!”Yeah well at least Miyazaki knew that less is more
>>735151003The Maiden. Then I defeat her and she says "Truly you are maidenless"
>>735151584It’s a good thing that Nightreign isn’t canon!
>>735151003I'd create the souls equivalent of the true final boss from saidaioujou. Everything we had so far is too easy. We need a boss to show the scrubs their places.
>>735151003Literally just Guts from berserk in full armor name him "Crimson The Black Knight" and youre good to go
>>735151003Saarzibart, the Redeemed
>>735151672NR is actually completely canon, it's just that it's story takes place in a timeloop/time crisis that then resolves itself as if it never happened. But it did happen. It's just that as a result of us winning against the Nightlord that the timeline where we fought him got pruned.
>>735151003make it one shot the player every single time and then reveal in an interview how it's a metaphor telling of the insurmountable odds of beating depressionfromslop & dark slop retards will gobble it up, I guarantee it
>>735151584Kill yourself
>>7351510032 pre-nerf Malenias just like God intended.
>>735152458Nope. Wrong. Cope.
>>735152541Malenia was never nerfed
>>735152504That isn’t Nightreign idiot
>>735152570It's not a cope. We see the Lands Between as they were in the main game reappear after we send the Nightlord packing. NR is canon, it's just not part of the main Elden Ring timeline and exists as a branch that self-pruned.
>>735152672> NR is canonNope.
>>735152576She was. The timings for a bunch of her attacks were nerfed to make them easier to dodge and the tracking of waterfowl was nerfed so it couldn't turn on a dime anymore. Also, the healing when she hits you got nerfed a ton.I beat hear both in 1.0 and after the nerf and the difference is pretty big. 1.0 was much more oppressive and tbf pretty cancerous with half of the weapons, but with longer weapons like halbers, she was much more fun to fight than the current version.
>>735152672>literally inconsequential to the actual gameSo, not canon with extra steps?
>>735152627That's my point dipshit
>>735152714You can stomp your feet and whine all you want but it 100% is canon. >BUT THE DARK SOULS CROSSOVERSYeah, you're not ready for Quella the God of Dreams and his Spirit Tree. Fromsoft's fantasy games are connected via a multiversal dream situation. The Dark Souls guys appearing when the universe started to literally MELT in the Night Rains ties into that. >>735152823No it's canon, it just doesn't affect anything about the game. The Nightlords all exist and so do the Nightfarers. Their lore is real.
>>735152840The point is that Nightreign is a lot more obnoxious than Miyazaki. Miyazaki had subtlety and tact.
what if they added an enemy that never stopped attacking with a screenwide one shot movedamn they'll call us geniuses again
>>735151003>reject offer
>>735151003I'm not buying the DLC and I have about 2 hours of game time in the base game from when it first came out.Has the game been balanced for solo play, or am I fucked if I try it again?Also, if I queue up with other people, would there even be anyone playing at my level?
>>735152902The creators even said it’s not canon :^)
I finally reinstalled Nightreign this week after basically playing on launch day and thinking it sucked. I'm doing solo runs, Duchess player, and I'm enjoying it now that I have the hang of it, but the world basically being the exact same shit with just shuffled bases is a fucking joke. I read that the DLC had a new map or something but I still need to beat the centaur nigger and the night lord.This game seems like once I beat all the bosses one time I'm not sure what's the reason to keep playing.Also the shifting world events are fucking awesome and should happen more often and there should be even more of them.
>>735152994Pictured: SUBTLETY
>>735153041They nerfed the fuck out of soloing so you'll find it much easier. >If I queueYou'll find plenty of people on your level. The sweatlords are off in the ranked mode grinding their ranks. >>735153054Yeah and then they released a game that quite clearly weaves itself into the canon with no contradictions and a tidy "time travel self-retcon" type device to grease it up.
>>735153135Better than Nightreign
>>735153135Kek to be fair that dlc is the end of a 3 games saga and it is supposed to be a pretty bombastic end of the world
>>735153150> with no contradictionsLMAO cope more retard
Grimgar the Accursed
>>735151003Soldier of Godrick
What ruined the lore of ER more? Shadow of the Erdtree or Nightreign?
>>735151003(You), the Player
>>735152902> Fromsoft's fantasy games are connected via a multiversal dream situationNo they aren’t you huge retard
>>735151003Just go full hollow knight and make the player have to beat every boss of the entire fromsoftverse back to back with the final boss being a 3d render of miyazaki that shoots lasers at you
>>735151003Radahn again
>>735153231It doesn't do anything to break canon>Reality starts melting in the Night>History and the Future are collapsing as the world gets erased by the manifestation of a true "void">A few mighty beings find an affinity for the Night and become chosen avatars of the Night>Marika had a plan for this all along>A team of heroes from across history assembles to fight them>Marika grants them the assistance of her Grace to help them fight back endlessly>Eventually after infinite battles in a world with broken time/space the Nightfarers repel the Aspect of Night>The world is repaired and the Nightlord gets repelled by Marika>None of it ever happenedIt's completely compatible with canon.
>>735153317Elden Ring itself.The lore of ER past the inital shattering premise is just a bunch of shit with impressive sounding names pointing to other impressive sounding shit that is never expanded on or clarified it is fromsoft vague storytelling at its most autistic.You'd need like 3 games to properly make sense out of the bullshit.
>>735151003>Fromsoft and Miyazaki have hired you to come up with the final boss of ELDEN RING®: NIGHTREIGN™ 2Another trio of players. Make the final boss the only PVP encounter in the game.
>>735153551>Reality starts melting in the NightWRONG right away bucko; it’s the frenzied black hole sun that melts everything NOT the fucking night
>>735151003it's a guy or a girl or you don't really know what gender and they have a sword and you fight them. what do you guys think?
>>735153551>copying the frenzied flame>copying Marika’s plan>copy+pasting the eternal cities Yup. It’s shit. Not canon.
>>735151003a giant head with spider legs that is your father and when he opens his mouth his tongue is your mother
Any mods that port all the assets into base Elden Ring yet?
>>735151003Picrel flanked by your mom and dad
>>735153551That they tried to make it fit into the canon doesn’t actually make it canon. Fan fiction does this all the time. Doesn’t make fan fiction canon.
>>735153204Miazaki has always wanted to do stuff like this. He was previously held back by borderline AA budgets, 7th gen console limitations, and limits of the technical skill of his own team.
Nightreign was made by the Nox fag who vanished (had a huge hissy fit) when he realized the Nox had no presence in SotE
>>735153359They are but it's a very schizo and loosely supported thing. Old Moonlight>The sword is named after moonlight, but it is slightly different than the one fashioned of the paledrake Seath. Perhaps it is rooted in an older memory, from not long after the Beginning. This one alone is a VERY heavyhanded reference to King's Field and the "Place of Beginning" which actually ties into Guyra and Seath [who related to the MLGS]Ethereal Oak Shield>Charbronze shield used by Millwood Knights that slowly regenerates HP. This shield appears to be blessed by a great, if faded, image of the ethereal oakMillwood Set> When the fabled Millwood forest was discovered it was a vacant ruin. The only thing left was the Ethereal Oak, stood rotting. No corpses were discovered, yet their belongings lay neatly on the ground.Grand Spirit Tree Shield>Shield of the blue spirit tree that and is said to possess divine powers. Appears in the allegory of Quella, God of Dream, and can deflect spells by parrying. Once there was a boy who was easily frightened, until the talking tree of dreamworld transformed itself into a shield to protect him.This is more about the spirit tree but it's also kinda suspicious. >>735153779>didn't listen to the intro cutsceneNight Rain literally melts your history and future. >>735153870Frenzied flame is trying to melt everything to return to the One Great. The One Great is the opposite of a "Void"
Crash Bandicoot. That's the boss.
>>735151003Gervo Laquill, Lord Of Darkness.
>>735153317SOTE lore is good outside of a couple of weird niggling details (the Carians predate the extermination of the fire giants? WHAT?). Nightreign lore is fucking schizophrenic, but it KNOWS it is, and actively erases itself from canon as the main premise of the game itself, essentially creating a blank check to write and design whatever stupid crazy bullshit they want without consequence.>>735153610Kill yourself, brainlet
>>735154046Yes. He made the backgrounds work. Something about the backgrounds in Nightreign doesn’t work. >>735154070Miyazaki’s ideas transcend the games. Moonlight swords are a tradition. Wide brimmed hats are a tradition. Magic being ruinous or parasitic is a tradition. Etc.
>>735151003Artorias but instead 20x faster and he's farting every time he jumps and the farts are toxic.
>>735151003A big guy in armor...holding FOUR SWORDS
>>735154070One Great is functionally a void, it's nonexistence, primordial chaos that needed the Greater Will or a Big Bang to make something of it
>>735154070> Frenzied flame is trying to melt everything to return to the One Great. The One Great is the opposite of a "Void"Um. No. It’s just existence as it is. The One Great is the not!big bang. The Greater Will is causality as it is. This includes space and the void. Perhaps you’re thinking of the big freeze, but that might just turn back into a Big Crunch.
>>735153954>kill boss>reward is an eternity of suffering
>>735154070> Night Rain literally melts your history and future.Nope. You didn’t detect the nuance.
>>735154248He's taking frenzied propaganda at face value that tries to imply that there will be something after the frenzied flame ending when the actual point of it is to end existence forever
>>735154070Quella isn’t literally Miquella you huge retard. Miyazaki throws nods to previous games into his games all the time. Not even his games. There’s a fucking Super Mario reference in DS3.
>>735153285>phase transition changes his name to Soldier of God, Rick
>>735154317It's even weirder that anybody buys the Frenzied Flame "start anew" song and dance because the Frenzied Flame demons possessing corpses don't say that either and nothing/nobody says there's going to be anything at all after CHAOS CLAIMS THE WORLD
>>735154142> the Carians predate the extermination of the fire giants? WHAT?They’re an ancient bloodline. I was under the impression that the Carians brought in the troll knights because they were nicer to them than Marika was.
>>735154424They worship the end state of physics. That’s it. Their worship is what’s mad. Similar to primeval sorcerers embracing the ruin of the stars.
>>735154164>Miyazaki’s ideas transcend the gamesBut he didn't work on KF games. >>735154242No, it's a singularity where all things are one and where all things come from. The Greater Will is just another fragment of it. >>735154248Nope. The One Great is what was before the Big Bang. >>735154369>Miquella has a sleep goddess alter-ego>Quella is the god of dreamsIt's not a coincidence.
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>>735154529They don't worship it they practice it, they spread frenzy and burn everything with spirit-fire so potent it can consume things that aren't real or are supposed to be nonconditionally immortal.
>>735154535> The One Great is what was before the Big Bang. Indistinguishable. The One Great Big Bang broke apart into facets. Starting life. The Greater Will is based on the Nous. It’s the cosmic mind. People thought causality was a cosmic mind or plan. A cosmic will, if you will.
>>735152458The effect of that timeloop is like a grindstone on wheat creating the grace Marika uses in ER proper to guide people with. The levels of selfless hero going on in NR is bonkers.
>>735154317>He's taking frenzied propaganda at face value that tries to imply that there will be something after the frenzied flame ending when the actual point of it is to end existence foreverBy becoming the one great again. A singularity where we're all one and there's no disparity or suffering or delineations. >ITS PROPAGANDAAnon, the Fundamentalists also agree. The law of regression is their acknowledgement of the primordial oneness of all things and their deeply felt desire to return and regress back into the One Great. >The fundamentalists describe the Golden Order through the powers of regression and causality. Regression is the pull of meaning; that all things yearn eternally to converge.And that's the knowledge of people who's basically fucking scientists.
>>735154594> They don't worship it they practice itChristians don’t worship Christ they practice Christianity!They worship it anon. They worship a form of horrible self medication.
>>735151584>well at least Miyazaki knew that less is moreYou're saying that Miyazaki, director of Elden Ring, knew that less is more?
>>735154627No, hugely distinguishable because the RAIN OF THE NIGHT just fucking ERASES you. Frenzy wants to destroy, Night wants to DELETE.
>>735154535> But he didn't work on KF gamesHe worked on the games that actually matter
>>735151003Just Pickle Rick laying in the middle of a field
>>735151584this nigga didn't play shadow of the shittree lmao
>>735154687>By becoming the one great again.The "one great" being a euphemism for a lifeless empty universe. >Anon, the Fundamentalists also agree. No they don't. The fundamentalists believe that because all life on the planet has a shared origin, that they should co-exist through their shared physical and spiritual heritage. Frenzied flame rejects the miracle of birth and existence in favor of oblivion. They could not be more different faiths.
>>735154753You’re being both pedantic and pretentious. The frenzied flame explicitly deletes as well. Can’t come back from it. No way no how.
>>735154714He just tried to go with more once and probably learned his lesson.
>>735154753Multiple things delete you in elden ring. Frenzy flame is one of them. So is Night. You don't need to exist in these extremes thats the actual message the games tell you. Return to quality build.
>>735151003Fight takes place in a Spa. Tank must wear The Mantle of Manager. There is only one mantle. 1 shots anyone not wearing the mantle. She'll select a random target looking at her when she enrages, so non tanks must be facing away when she does.
>>735154814>The "one great" being a euphemism for a lifeless empty universe.No, it's literally just the gnostic concept of the Monad. >They could not be more different faiths.And yet they both see that all things wish to regress and return to the whole. Proving that as a tangible reality of the Elden Ring worls because even opposed beliefs see that truth.
>>735151003The Captain
>>735154687>>735154814You’re both retarded. Life literally clumps back together in this universe. The law of regression isn’t a bad thing or a good thing. Entropy is just like a magnet. The golden order sees the dubious beauty in it, the frenzied flame sees the coping ruin of it.
>>735154251Such is life
>>735154840>The frenzied flame explicitly deletes as wellNope. If you're melted by the Frenzy you still existed. Night makes it so you never were and never will be. >>735154850Nope. Frenzy doesn't erase you within the timeline. It just destroys your body and soul. You still existed.
>>735154948>GO propagandalol no
>>735154912>No, it's literally just the gnostic concept of the Monad.Undoing creation is to kill all that live and prevent anyone else from being born, with the logic being that existence is mostly suffering and not worth the cost. It's gay ass nihilism and you are gay and stupid.>And yet they both see that all things wish to regress and return to the whole. No, the fundamentalists do not want to kill the world. They just want everyone to get along
The night is just another form of the frenzied Eternal darkness is a black hole just like the frenzied flame
>>735154975Nothing 'erases you within the timeline' faggot. Things either kill your body or they kill your body and spirit.
>>735154948The frenzied flame is not the gathering of life, but the total destruction of it. It's a rejection of creation and birth itself.
>>735154975>Nope. If you're melted by the Frenzy you still existedYou no longer exist.> Night makes it so you never were and never will be. Not how time travel or space time works. You wouldn’t even be able to play NR. You can’t actually delete the past.
>>735155059The Night Rain does. >Thus fell upon us the Night.>Now, heavy rains harry the region, threatening to wash away its very history. Nightfarers even have their memories slowly washed away from repeated exposure to it. The Night unmakes things, it doesn't just destroy them. It unravels reality itself.
>>735155068What is life to you? Physics is alive in this universe. The building blocks of physics is alive. > It's a rejection of creation and birth itself.Not necessarily if you buy the idea that the frenzied want life to reset again. Not sure about that.
>>735155101>You no longer exist.Yes but you existed. Not so with the Night.
>>735155154Not how spacetime works. Sorry. You can’t delete the past or remake your past. Going into the past is essentially stepping into an entirely new universe.
>>735155154It doesn't actually do that though play NR. Things washed into the Night simply exist in the Night now. The players kill Night infused Nightlords consumed of Everdark and Nightglow and stop the night and take the grace they made and return it to the lands between.
>>735155220Nope. You definitely existed. You’re not smart enough to understand this paradox.
>>735155183>Physics is alive in this universe. The building blocks of physics is alive. No it isn't. You are fucking stupid. Life, that is living things, with souls, are the creations of a universal God. You would unmake that miracle.>Not necessarily if you buy the idea that the frenzied want life to reset again. We are explicitly told this is not the case and it would also contradict the point. Adherents of frenzy fall into two camps: edgelords who just want to kill the world, and people who have suffered so much that they think life itself is not worth experiencing. If people were eventually born again, what would be the point of the exercise?
>>735155154You’re hyping up the night way too much.
>>735155347> No it isn't.Yes it is. We all come from stardust, and stardust in this universe is a form of life. Sellen and Ymir discuss this. The One Great’s fracturing caused an explosion of stardust.
>>735151003The final boss will be a PvP boss like Spears of the Church where you'll face off against one, two or thee players depending on the mode you're playing.
>>735155427Not quite.
>>735155347> We are explicitly told this is not the caseNo it is left quite vague. Could go either way, really. > and it would also contradict the point.Not really.
>>735155296No, you're just unable to understand asbtract fantasy concepts. >>735155291No they don't. The Night is a void, the idea of "nothing" made manifest. If we simply let things run their course, reality was going to be unmadeDuchess:>our world will be undone. Not to mention the lore for a couple Nightlords is about that>LibraIs okay with EVERYTHING being deleted because that's "equal">CaligoIs a chronicler of history and wants to watch as it ends.
>>735155347> If people were eventually born again, what would be the point of the exercise?Why do you assume you’d be around for the next existence? Being born again is Marika’s whole allure. And she gave it to the Carians. >>735155476Yes quite. The primeval current is just the galaxy and indeed the current of physics as it is. The law of causality and regression are physics as it is.
>>735155427Life in Elden Ring did not naturally evolve. It was created by a cosmic hyper god. It will not just come back on its own, and the whole point of the frenzied flame is that it regards the actions of the creator as a mistake. >Sellen and Ymir discuss this. Neither of them even touch on the subject.
>>735155540> Is a chronicler of history and wants to watch as it endsNope. It’s an ancient ass ice dragon that once fought the fire giants.
>>735155540>No they don't. The Night is a void, the idea of "nothing" made manifest. If we simply let things run their course, reality was going to be unmadeNot quite. You play a whole game in there. >>735155582>Yes quite. The primeval current is just the galaxy and indeed the current of physics as it is. The law of causality and regression are physics as it is.GO propaganda.
>>735155486>No it is left quite vague.Melina directly warns you what will happen.>Not really.Yes really, you stupid faggot. What would be the point of the frenzied flame if people could just be born again eventually anyway? >>735155582>Why do you assume you’d be around for the next existence? I didn't. Adherents of the frenzied flame thing think that life itself is not worth it, period, not just for themselves.
>>735151003Some kind of super-Phalanx as the final boss of the very last FS souls game would be kino
>>735155540>If we simply let things run their course, reality was going to be unmadeSo just like the frenzied flame. No amount of saying “no it’s worse!” changes that. They’re the same fucking thing.
>>735151003They should do a thing like in bowsers inside story where someone gets vored and fights something inside the boss while the others fight outside
>>735155663That's kinda one of the bosses of the nightreign dlc
>>735155650Sellen and Ymir aren’t GO propagandists.>>735155660Melina doesn’t want the world to end. Anyone left alive to witness a Big Crunch isn’t going to have a fun time.
>>735155773>Melina doesn’t want the world to end.She's already dead. She pleads with you not to end all life forever, which is what the frenzied flame does
>>735155773you talk like one when we are the player and know everyone in the game is wrong. Stop doing that.
>>735155585> Life in Elden Ring did not naturally evolveIt evolves just fine. The Ring enables evolution. The crucible knights are even named after irl eras, the dinosaurs, etc. life away from the Ring runs on reincarnation logic. Astels and fallingstar beasts evolve in the void.
>>735155585> Neither of them even touch on the subject.You didn’t play the game? You should kill yourself. >>735155809Melina isn’t dead she’s just formless. And even then, not really. She can fight and be killed in the fight with Margot.
>>735155809> end all life forever, which is what the frenzied flame doesNo it just puts life back into a singular unit. Complex life no more!
>>735151003Asylum Demon but he has 10 phases and keeps getting more powerful every time he rises again.
>>735155996Life is complex. Undifferentiated matter is not life. That's THE FUCKING POINT. THEY ARE NIHILISTS. THEY THINK LIFE IS BAD
>>735155998a monster that goes through all the different asylum demon from from ds to er in separate phases would be unironically kino
>>735155937>You didn’t play the game?You didn't.>Melina isn’t dead she’s just formless. She's a fucking ghost. Tuned by Marika.
>>735155650>Not quite. You play a whole game in there.In the final remaining shred of reality. Trying to fend off it's influence. >>735155709A singularity where we're all one and suffering and disparity are over, is not the same thing as everything being deleted. > They’re the same fucking thing.No they aren't. Everybody burning to death until the whole world becomes a singularity is not the same as all of reality being deleted as if it never happened.
Unironically add voice coms or other types of communication.
>>735155585— Our powers draw upon the powers embedded in glintstone, but what is the nature of such power? Glintstone is the amber of the cosmos. Golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life and houses its vitality, while Glintstone contains residual life. And thus, the vitality of the stars. It should not be forgotten that glintstone sorcery is the study of the stars and the life therein. -Sellen— I, too, am a glintstone sorcerer. We study the stars, and examine the life therein. Are you familiar with our findings? Long ago, we began as stardust, born of a great rupture far across the skies. We, too, are children of the Greater Will. Is that not divine? Is that not sublime? ...and yet, none can fathom its implications, its utter brilliance! -YmirER is a mix of irl physics logic butting heads with mythological logic.
>>735153551Every time i see someone discussing the nightrein "lore" it sounds like kingdom hearts
>>735156064Nah they are pro life. Just not life sourced to this existence. If the Big Crunch thing is true, then they’re technically trying to plant a new existence altogether, even if they don’t see it that way. They might be so nihilistic that they don’t actually care.
>>735156162> Everybody burning to death until the whole world becomes a singularity is not the same as all of reality being deleted as if it never happened.You’re still under the delusion that the night deletes the past. It doesn’t. If it did, you wouldn’t be able to play NR at all. This is just basic common sense. Timey wimey shit is never done intelligently. You cannot alter the past. Time travel in movies and video games is done wrongly 99.99% of the time.
>>735152902>Quella the God of Dreams and his Spirit TreeThis is the weirdest fucking thing, but it also appears to only exist in English. If you go with the Japanese translation of the Grand Spirit Tree Shield, the name of the God is Nera/Nela>神秘の力を秘めるとされる青い神樹の盾>夢の神ネラの寓話に登場するものパリィによってスペルを弾き返すこともできる>夢の世界にある喋る大樹は自らを盾に変え、臆病な少年に力を与えたThe name Nera/Nela is seen in "ネラ".For some reason this was localized as Quella? I don't know why because ネ for 'ne' isn't easily confused for anything else, and is a straight forwards katakana.
>>735156245Yeah and he doesn’t even realize how cringe it sounds; this is why everyone hates NR fags
“The night is even meltier than the frenzied flame okay!”Jesus Christ can we please kill this dumb ass motherfucker
>>735156292>If the Big Crunch thing is true,It isn't. Life in this universe was created by a god and they want to undo that creation because they see life itself as inherently bad. There will be nothing left, ever, and that is the point.
>>735155650>Not quite. You play a whole game in there.Spending time in the Night is devastating. You can only survive for a little bit before it melts you down.
>>735155291He’s retarded ignore him.>>735155540Undone in the sense that it will be unrecognizable. It’s just another take on the Frenzied Flame.
>>735156498It's the difference between melting the whole earth into slag or deleting earth from space.Yes, everyone dies in both situations. But one of these is a lot more destruction than another. One still has a planet of melted slag, ruined and sterilized as it is.
Literally every single unique boss in Nightreign is better designed than any of the slop that's in Elden Ring (especially the DLC)
>>735156504There’s no way to say if it is or isn’t so, anon. It’s possible that their end goal is counterproductive if it just ends up making another existence for them to hate. How is that not poetic irony? It’s perfect.
>>735156432>>735154070Same for the smaller shield. The name is again, ネラ/Nera/Nela, but is localized as Quella for an inexplicable reason.
>>735151672Nightreign is canon thoughbeit
>>735156507> Spending time in the Night is devastating. You can only survive for a little bit before it melts you down.And yet the big baddies do it just fine >>735156591Are you just ignoring the part about not actually being able to delete the past? The night isn’t more destructive it’s just another fucking melty issue
>>735156498The frenzied flame is just a reset button for the GW, true, the night is worse
>>735156720>And yet the big baddies do it just fineThe Night is infectious. Becoming part of it just means you're part of the problem and you start destroying everything right alongside Heolstor.>Are you just ignoring the part about not actually being able to delete the past?The Night didn't win, so why would you assert that it's not actually able to in the event that it did?
>>735156591> It's the difference between melting the whole earth into slag or deleting earth from space.This sounds like the same thing. It all goes away. You’re reading way too much into it.What you’re doing is essentially a hype situation, like with Radahn. “He can stop the stars!”. If he could stop the stars he would be unbeatable. The stars still align and fallingstar beasts still land. It’s an exaggeration. The night deleting things the way you speak of it, is an exaggeration. We know this for a fact, because you’re already fighting and slaying things consumed by the night.
>>735155245That actually is how space time works retardo, and the only reason you perceive it forward is due to gravity and entropy not because of spacetime.
>>735156806The night isn’t worse. It’s only worse if you assume it deletes more than what it does, which it doesn’t. Anon doesn’t even know how time works. >>735156839Nature as a whole is infectious in this universe. The night isn’t actually unique here. Even the frenzied infects. Everything does.
>>735151584Bloodborne's DLC is the true start of Fromsoft maximalism and they never went back. DS2 already had it pretty well going.
>>735156649>If we just assume that both they and their critics are wrong about their goals, then the effects of the frenzied flame are the opposite of what they are claimed to be!Concession accepted.
>>735156638Heolstor is my favorite souls fight of all time. God I love fighting him so much. When he just starts sliding around slashing wildly it's so fucking radical.
>>735156907Nope. You can’t delete or redo the past. To justify time travel into the past you’d have to assume some sort of multiverse. It’s gay I know.
>>735156841>this sounds like the same thingTo a fucktarded ESL schizophrenic who can’t argue to literally save his life, yeah I guess so. Let’s cut to the chase, you actually think monster hunter wilds isn’t rancid shit
>>735151003Reskin Gwyn and give him a new move or two and the fans will eat it up.
>>735151003>Dude with a sword and a shield on his back>Dude pulls the shield off his back>The shield grows arms/legs, grabs the dude turns the dude into a swordI think I've got it
>>735156987You can't just ascribe metaphysics over the author. The substance of timespace is up to the writer, not interpretation.
>>735156987No, you are flat out wrong. Space time exists as a whole. The future and the past simply exist the same way the literal space next to you does, as stated earlier the reason you perceive time as going forward is a function of gravity and entropy not space-time. You are not educated.
>>735156946I think I just broke your brain. Sad!>>735156995It’s the same because that’s not how it works. Anon assumes the past can be erased. It can’t.
>>735157091Anon. I’m well aware of the concept of past, present and future existing all at once, as this is something Einstein had believed in.The point is, this means you aren’t actually changing the past. You’re simply stepping into a different present.> You are not educated.You’re projecting now because you aren’t as intelligent as you thought you were.
>>735157098No, it’s not the same. You perceive it as the same because you are functionally a retard and will kill yourself as every social intervention you have is everyone shitting on you
itt anon tries to argue with nightreign's writers about their own metaphysics, receives no response
>>735157159>reddit spacing >Anon.>Einstein >fucking up yellow text Rajeet here thinks he’s acting a brilliant rn
>>735153317COVIDThey really hacked the game's story together at the last minute on par or worse than DS3
>>735156693>>735156432wtf.Very very very interesting. Thanks for sharing.>>735156583>Undone in the sense that it will be unrecognizable. No, undone in the sense that is would "wash away its very history." The universe was being erased. >>735156917You have no support for your claim. Everything we see in NR says that it erases the matter, the history of the matter and everything. The Nightfarers are barely even able to keep a hold on their memories because they keep getting exposed and melted away bit by bit and not even Marika's grace is able to really protect them from it wholly. >>735155245>>735156907>>735156987>>735157091The Nightfarers come from a wide range of periods in history and the Night affected them all. It's happening 4th dimensionally and impacts all of history and the future at once.
>>735157159>the pastDoes not exist within space time, only your perception. You have literally zero understanding of relativity, physics, anything related specifically to Einstein at all. You are a retarded ESL.
>>735157064There are limits to fiction. Fiction actually requires the bare minimum of logic to work, and this includes causality and space and time. You cannot for instance create a fiction where math doesn’t exist. It cannot be done. If an author tries to write otherwise, it’s a case of an illusion enforced by ignorance. An author is freely capable of writing ignorance into their own setting.These games are also medieval. Not in the future. This is why Oolacile in Dark Souls saw time as light. It’s obviously not literally so, but light (its speed/relativity) IS associated with time and space in the real world, nonetheless.
>>735157308That’s not what Einstein said or thought. You should read the letter he wrote to the family of his best friend when he passed away.
>>735157387Saaaaar da Einstein saaaar
Lol now he’s freaking out because his precious night rain doesn’t actually melt the past like he thought it did > No, undone in the sense that is would "wash away its very history." The universe was being erased. Not how space time works
>>735157313>There are limits to fiction.This is not true, there is no “limit” to reality either fyi retardo
>>735157447lmfao you're autistic and stupid.>BUT THAT'S NOT HOW REALITY WORKSIt's fantasy sperg nigger.
>>735157447Oh look it’s a “schizophrenic loser gets so ass blasted he starts vagueposting” episode, jeets like you ingest every fucking thread nowadays, no wonder this site is dying.
>>735157282> The Nightfarers are barely even able to keep a hold on their memories because they keep getting exposed and melted away bit by bitSo it deletes their neurons. And their non deleted neurons can recognize the deletion of their lost neurons.Do you know what this means? You’ve fucked your own argument. If it truly did erase the past then they wouldn’t even be capable of realizing they’ve forgotten anything.God damn Nightreign niggers are dumb.
>>735157046There is precedent. The sword the Elden Beast wields is Radagon/Marika.
>unironically caring about the "lore"
>>735157542Saaaar da neurons saaaar benchod nightfeignLet’s cut to the chase: you’re just mad monster hunter wilds was an atrocious failure
>>735157471I’m serious. Fiction is quite literally a projection of logic. Recognizing our limits and imagining otherwise. All fiction is a form of causality, otherwise it wouldn’t be a narrative at all. Physics IS a story.
>>735157542>unironically failing the “how would you feel if you didn’t have breakfast this morning” question
>>735157313You have a very incapable imagination. Of course you can make such a fiction. Off the cuff I will name Fallen London as a setting where math is an out and out lie woven by godlike beings, and numbers are "treacherous" in the dark. Where it is dark, two plus two will not always equal four. Where it is truly dark, there will not even be twos.
>>735157542me when i argue things not stated anywhere and get all Sheldon about how magic works and what it's capable of in a magic setting where its upper limit isn't specified
>>735157651>I’m serious You’re a retarded and schizophrenic loser who will kill themselves.
>>735157682I accept your concession. You seem to think you would be able to remember your deleted past. Jesus Christ. “How would you feel if you weren’t born?”. LMFAO. The answer in this case would be “but I was born”. For once the retarded black person is correct.
>>735157686> Of course you can make such a fictionNo. You can’t. That you’re even trying to argue otherwise is hilarious. Even in a state of absolute nothingness, a zero becomes a one. A nothing is a something. There is ALWAYS going to be basest logic to whatever fiction. ALL fiction descends from logic. Pretending that “fiction can do anything” is a variant of believing in an omnipotent god—except fictional. Fiction is not omnipotent. Simply because the author isn’t and stems from a quite limited origin point. Stop being religiously minded. Escapism has rotted your brain.
>>735157651>logicYou literally do not know how logic functions. At all. Logic does not end with concrete rationality you retard. Impossible hypotheticals are core to logical proofs that can be used to…as the name suggest…literally prove mathematical and observable phenomenon. The unreal can literally be used to not just inform the real but it prove the existence of it. Read a fucking book on proofs. Or just look at euler’s identity you fucking inbred, third world ingrate.
Goldmask roleplayer and/or AI posts
>>735157710You just got butt fucked by someone more logical than you; hating someone more logical than you (resorting to name calling and making fun of them) implies you can’t keep up with them, and so deflect away. You’ve got nothing else.
>>735157747Bro is concession posting in 2026, biggest self own there is, the only “I got BTFO” flag redder than vagueposting
>>735157864Sorry, I can write a fiction about a triangle with four sides. Your constraint of logic being infallible is easily destroyed by fiction.
>>735157889If you think math isn’t the basest form of logic, then you don’t exactly know what logic is. Accusing me of not knowing what logic is, implies you yourself do not. Hm. ;^)
>>735154070>>735154242>>735154248The One Great is just the Crucible on Earth. The Greater Will made it splinter from primordial soup into the diverse and disparate life that exists on Earth as it is. Literally just a redo of the First Flame. The Greater Will is just one of many aliens, not some uniquely higher cosmic force. You could call it the strongest of them, but still one of many. The Frenzied Flame is lying by omission, telling truth about what the Greater Will did, but hiding that what it wants.
>>735151584>Nightreign is overly designed slopthis nigga havent seen elder nig lmoa
>>735157864>Even in a state of absolute nothingness, a zero becomes a one. A nothing is a something. Holy ranjesh. You tried to use an old adage but fucked it up lmaoNothingness isn’t “something”. Nothing is “everything”. It’s the summation of all real integers. This is embarrassing
>>735157989Math is an application of logic. Logic exists before math. Math cannot exist without logic, but logic can exist without math.
I have boss fatigue. I want a dark souls without bosses. just give me gimmicky levels
>>735157976> I can write a fiction about a triangle with four sidesYou absolutely can. Except it’s still stupid and would never manifest properly even in fiction. A triangle does not have four sides, otherwise it would not be a triangle. That’s just how it is.
>>735158095>you can but it's stupid :(I accept your concession.
>>735158064>he thinks math is invented rather than found LOL no; prime numbers exist independently of life.> but logic can exist without math.That’s just called math.
>>735157989Math comes after logic, you would know this if you actually had a mathematics major, like I did lmao. It’s commonly combined with set theory.
>>735158162Numbers don't exist at all. You can have an apple, but you can't have a negative apple.
>>735158142You don’t appear to know what shapes are. Can you even write in cursive? How old are you?
>>735158162Math is a subset of logic, not the other way around. You are Indian.
>>735151003A giant penis.
>>735158168Mathematicians think math is so essential to existence that it’s “unreasonably effective” and possibly even proof that God is a mathematician. Look up Eugene Wigner. You have no idea what you’re talking about.>>735158195Numbers go along with existence, silly. If anything exists at all, there will be quantification to it. There is no otherwise.
>>735158195You can in theory have a negative apple, which is actually what clumsy pajeet anon is trying to say that fiction is a subset of math. He’s just insanely retarded and his entire perspective on “math and logic” is no doubt derived from TikToks
>>735158234Nope. I bet you think science is just some one sided method to apply, too. Kek. Not even Einstein saw this. Mathematicians ass math as ever present.Again. Prime numbers exist independently of life. It’s why we’re going to use them to talk to any hypothetically, sufficiently intelligent enough life forms we encounter in space. This is why math is called a universal language. Because it’s there even before we are.
>>735158305[(logic) ∩ (math) ≠O] ∧ [(logic)∖(math) ≠O] ∧ [(math)∖ (logic) ≠OYou are stupid
>>735158317He's being a turbo Redditor on top of fucking with everyone
>>735158317> You can in theory have a negative appleThat actually proves his point. Even a non is a one. This is basic. It’s why binary runs on 0 and 1, not 1 and 2. On and off.
>>735158305>Numbers go along with existence, silly. If anything exists at all, there will be quantification to it. There is no otherwise.Let's skip over the fact that only one thing can ever be proven to exist because solipsism is boring.And into the second: you can quantify all you like, but that is a measurement and an interpretation, an ascribing of qualities, not a verification of them. You say there is one apple, but in truth there's just the probability of a certain amount of energy being in the shape of an apple. At the quantum level numbers do not exist, only probabilistic disturbances of field quanta.
>>735158305You literally do not know what quantification is
>>735158426>act dumb in front of a smart person >call them Redditor to feel safer about yourself lol cute
>>735158381He keeps bringing up prime numbers erroneously because that was what the tiktok was about lmao
>>735158446> At the quantum level numbers do not exist, only probabilistic disturbances of field quanta.lol>>735158496How would you feel if you had two apples instead of one apple, or one apple instead of two apples
>>735158439Peak “think like a brilliant” posting, this one is going in my collection
>>735158561The prime numbers think go back to Carl Sagan and the golden disc. Actually. I’ve never once used TikTok. Assuming I’m a TikToker is another form of projection. You insult any form of lecturing.
>>735158564>lolSorry anon, high school physics lied to you. Electrons don't actually spin around the atom like orbiting a tiny planet. It's all fields of probability, all the way down.
>>735158446At the quantum level binary does in fact apply lol; superposition; spinning one way or the other way
>>735158439>>735158564He keeps fucking up his meme arrows lmao
>>735151003Torrent the Bisexual Horse of Color
>>735158668>Electrons don't actually spin around the atom like orbiting a tiny planet.what the fuck???
>>735158629Tiktoks vulturing sagan, as if it couldn’t go any lower
>>735151003actually give him different attacks per elemental phase instead of the same shit but it does different affinities/status
>>735158668>spin This implies one way or the other; the way a spin goes is very much pivotal and a binary matter; particles don’t predetermined spins but it’s still one or the other once observed
>>735158714You’re starting to sound extremely petty because you got lectured on something.
>>735151584Even Demonic Souls did have those at times, never mind the later Armored cores.Nigger never made it past Undead Burg and wants to tell us what Miyazaki did with his series
>>735151003No brainer
>>735158668For a fundamental quantum particle like an electron, there are two possible, discrete spin directions (or, more precisely, spin projections) that can be measured: spin-up and spin-down relative to a chosen axis.B i n a r y inary
>>735158446>>735158668>probability isn’t math Do you even realize how stupid you look
>>735158853You are the equivalent of a homeless drunk shitting their pants and trying to use your adept ability at getting people to get away from you as proof of your intelligence, you’re a freak
>>735151328>Not the forgiving ffs anon get it together
>>735159042Probability isn't quantifiable. It isn't a true physical quality.
>>735159124> Probability isn't quantifiableUh. You either step with your right foot, or you don’t step with your right foot. Logic is a form of quantification and vice versa.
>>735158214Uh. This is fucking horrifying. No wonder these threads are so low iq. No wonder these faggots don’t know what math or logic or base quantitation is.
i have never seen anyone actually give nightreign a honest try and hate it. specially not when with any friends whatsoeverthis is one of these games where almost everyone who hates it just hates it on principle/imagination
>ZanzibartIs this real????
>>735159567Yeah it really horrifying that there's a retard dumb enough to fall for that article.
>>735158992Spin isn't actually spin. They're not rotating.
>>735159715> or, more precisely, spin projectionsPlease read
What is this Dualiste knockoff
>>735153150>I know better than the creators! Lil bwo that argument will never work out for you. It's non-canon that could've been canon if they wanted, but it's not.
he's in
>>735159882moot who?
>>735159882Reminder that humanity was always the natural state of being and Gwyn just had a power trip pretending the gods weren’t just humans high on soul power
>>735159825Calling it a projection is still a misnomer. The entire term is a misnomer that would be misleading if you weren't already used to non-descriptive jargon by that point in quantum theory. For something just as bad, look at color charge.
>>735151235I heard it from a trusted source
>>735160080Ringed Knights show that primeval humans were weird and modern humans are almost a different race entirely.
>>735160092> Calling it a projection is still a misnomer.Not really. It’s not an actual rotation as you said. Information is projected in one of two possible ways.
>>735159882He's far too easily forgotten, although they would be based if they did this
>>735160230My ancestor :)
>>735151003Pontiff Sulyvahn with three swords
Melannin, copy of melenia but black and more particle effects and longer combo strings so you can barely see anything.
>>735151003Two Radahns
Why Pygmy though? Was he really a Midget?
>>735160230ringed knights just have a bit more dark soul juice. they burn their dark soul for more power, it might be where gwyn even got the idea from. theoretically the dark soul was equal if not greater in power to gwyn's soul and the furtive pygmy could have competed with him, but the pygmy played the long game instead. it's why the abyss is far below the ground while the sun is in the sky. and why gwyn crafted the dark sign to force humans to burn their fragments of the dark soul. and why gael can summon lightning.
>>735161035The dark soul is the inverse of Gwyn’s soul. It begins small but grows over time. Gwyn’s soul began large but waves over time. This is why Seath’s soul fragment is the same size as Nito’s and the Witch’s. It was massive compared to theirs. The four kings got their fragment a lot later, and this is why it’s smaller than Seath’s.
>>735161368wanes*
Gwyn and Marika are a lot alike. Both took advantage of the natural order and tried reshaping it. Then they desperately tried clinging on to it. Until they said ‘fuck it’ and made a drastic decision. There are still some differences though.
Humanity is cuteCUTE
>>735151003Creatividad, the Randomly Delaying
>>735151003Godwyn the golden>First Phase zombi nigga, use the shadutree flower as basis>Second Phase dude without armor classic 1v1, he uses crucible incants and lightning incants for mix ups.Is it confirmed what weapon he used?If not, give him a halberd>Ultimate Attack in wich he transforms into his dragon form, make it like bales ult where you have to evade in combo fashion and let the attack end with Fortixases Slash
>>735151003Why would I want to do this? I'd just hire the psycho who came up with super libra and have him do it
>>735154046>7th gen consoles prevented Miyazaki from plagiarizing Berserk's Eclipse in every single pre-BB gameI don't think that's true.
>>735151003Fergus from the most acclaimed awards winning game of its era. He summons gloop spawns when his healthbar reaches 50%.
>>735161884>Is it confirmed what weapon he used?Daddy used a great axe, and his follower knights use axes, so probably great axe/halberd like you said.
I would make basically all gestures and mask sayings work while moving at 100% speed if they can, things like kneeling collapse will obviously slow you down. There needs to be better comms then pinging morse code on map.
>>735159882>Pygmy: Remembered
>>735161884>>735162463Do something more creative, like a taking the idea of a double-headed axe, and apply it to a twinblade.
>>735151003Done years ago.
>>735151003the boss holds his arm up for 40.2 seconds, then accelerates for 0.5 sec to rollbait you, his arm becomes static instantly, 0.5 sec later his arm resumes the rocket boost and hits you instantly.this is an instakill unless you didn't get rollbaited and are in iframes on the true attack. he has 100% armor for the whole duration, then his hp becomes 1 with no armor afterwards.
>>735151003Spongebob
>>735153135Imagine if we got the original concept for DS3 before they dialed it back to focus on Elden Ring
>>735156432>>735156693>I don't know why because ネ for 'ne' isn't easily confused for anything else, and is a straight forwards katakana.>for an inexplicable reason.Frognation arbitrarily change names all the time if they don't like how the Japanese sounds or think it'll sound awkward in English>フレイディア = Freja>ヴァンクラッド = Vendrick>デュナシャンドラ = Nashandra>ナメレス = Heolstor>アメンドーズ = Amygdalaetc
>>735167150>ナメレス = HeolstorMan is that supposed to be a really butchered "Nameless" or something like "Nameres"?
>>735168345Its Nameless but they slightly stylized it. Honestly, probably for search engine optimization purposes. ネームレス is the more common katakana (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ネームレス)
>>735168345That question is probably why they decided to change it altogether.
>>735168806Probably part avoiding confusion with the Nameless King, and part just their love of making things sound more "ancient". Like localizing 'kage'/shadow as Scadu when it just led to everyone mispronouncing the name for a week.
