I cant be this old right
typical middleman, no im not old yet, consoles are still cool, and i can still run some meters without getting tired
The 7th generation is when consoles decided to try to become PCs, even Nintendo. The PS2 and Gamecube are the last consoles that can truly be called retro.
>>735153039congrats youre over the age 18
>>735153039The Xbox 360 is only 2 generations ahead of the SNES and people were calling that retro in 2006. We're 2 generations ahead of the 360 so it's retro.
>>735153303>7th gen>tried to be PCs???
>>735153039How is it that the ps1 already felt retro 10 years after launch but the ps3 20 years later still feels modern?
>>735155438im in my 29s and yeah congrats for me, i still live with my parents got not an stable job or a family :D but got my ps5
>came out when I was 20>turn 40 this yearEnjoy your youth, it goes very fast.
The 360 came out nearly 21 years ago. It's pretty funny how the Wii U came out in the 2010s and is considered retro. One of those things are NOT like the other.
>>735155707perception i guess...i owned the ps1 but played very few gess, around then at the begininng of the 2000s got the ps2 and later the psp, i never touched the ps3 even if i knew it was there out, all my friends and i got PS2s none own a ps3... to me the ps3 gens feels like the lost gen for Sony, dont have any meaning... ps3 era was just the extension of the PS2 era
>>735155707stuck culture and diminishing returns on leaps in fidelity
>wii u wait a sec
>>735153039>Wii U is considered retroBreath of the Wild is my favorite retro game.
>>735156192The Wii was leapfrogged. Its sad. I was in line for the Wii launch!
>>735153039Retro is a timeframe, things cannot became retro post factum
>>735155707Honestly because I think some 7th Gen games have aged very well since their debuts.Games like God of War 3, Halo Reach and Sonic Unleashed come to mind.
>>735153039bruh I love retro games, GTA V and Minecraft were straight fire fr fr
In my opinion any console that is no longer supported in any official capacity should be considered retro. Another way to look at it is, a console is either modern or retro and if it isn't modern, it's retro. This currently includes the 360, the PS3, the WiiU, the Vita and the 3DS.Ultimately - ask yourself; what is the purpose of the retro moniker? To me, it represents a class of platforms for which the center of discussion is the question, "How do I best enjoy this older platform and it's software?". And in an absence of official support, this question and resulting discussion certainly applies to this list of consoles. That's just my two cents.
>>735153303fucking retarded post, kill yourself you retard.
This is like the fourth year in a row niggers that don't play videogames are fucking befuddled by the concept that gen 7 design sensibilities are completely anachronistic now.
>>735156053you're just retarded, it was the last classic sony console but it absolutely had its own identity.
>>735156834shit hasn't changed whatsoever since 7th gen and that's why it doesn't feel retro. If anything video games regressed in some ways.
>>735153039Sounds about right. I was talking to a teenager a couple years ago and he mentioned he was playing the original Assassin's Creed. I said that was cool, and he said>Yeah, I really like those old classic games.I died inside.
>>735153039>Just two generations awayI get the PS1 being retro, PS2 is pushing it, but PS3 being considered retro is stupid, wait till 2035 at least
>>735156921Oh yes because as we all know when fucking Tony Hawk's American Wasteland and Little Big Planet came out it had a battle pass and the entire game's design revolved around making clips on twitch to farm money out of advertisers.Shut the fuck up retard.
>>735153039Nah. It's technology. It gets outdated kinda' fast, so it's not surprising that it's considered retro now. Man. Really sucks that those days are gone and not coming back, though. The 360 was magical and I got mine at a great time in life. Homeschooled and all I had to do was study for a bit and then jump on and play all fucking day.
>>735156834It's the however many thousandth year in a row people are blindsided by the endless passage of time.
>>735155707Stagnation. Games used to improve by leaps and bounds every generation and the gap between two generations was immeasurable.Compare GTA 2 and GTA IV, those games had 2 generations and 9 years between them. And then look at GTA V, which has been released on 3 different console generations because it's still the newest entry in the series after almost 13 years, and still (sadly) the pinnacle of open-world games. Since then, all improvements in gaming have been minor and incremental, there hasn't been any new groundbreaking innovations in any field besides monetization.
>>735157113shut the fuck you stupid niggerfaggot. Anyone that isn't a drooling mongoloid like yourself considers 7th gen to be when modern video games took shape. The fact you have to bring up battle passes to try and force 7th gen to be retro is pathetic, stupid faggot. That's the exact regression I mentioned. Gameplay hasn't meaningfully changed since 7th gen. The majority of genres haven't meaningfully changed. GTA V is a 7th game, you subhuman. Kill yourself.
>>735156751>Ultimately - ask yourself; what is the purpose of the retro moniker?an absolutly not... the solely purpose of etiqueting something retro is to resell it 10x times higher the rices, just because its retro
ps3 and 360 are definitely retro. their gpus are dx9 based. dx9 is legacy and retro too. wii u is kinda hard to call it retro but since the offline is down it may as well be.
>>735157385online*
>>735157356>Gameplay hasn't meaningfully changed since 7th gen.NIGGER LITERALLY EVERY GAME FUCKING SUCKS NOW BECAUSE IT'S ADVERTISING FARMING FOR STREAMING AND ESPORTS SHIT.YES, IT MEANINGFULLY CHANGED.THERE'S A REASON IT'S BEEN 15 FUCKING YEARS AND NIGGAS ARE STILL PLAYING TERRARIA YOU RETARDED MOTHER FUCKER.
>>735157440>still doesn't get itYou stupid fucking nigger. 7th gen will never be retro. Not until full dive VR comes out. You can shit your pants about it all you like.
>>735157440This. So much this. It's not about fun, creativity or actually allowing the player to play in ways they haven't before. It's not about being able to get on your chosen your machine and just melt into a whole world of cool gaming stuff to have amazing experiences. It's all just a big pipeline of shit meant to drain your wallet with casino tactics while trying to hit big. Once upon a time I would say games are art and defend that position, but I can't these days. These are products. Straight up.
>>735157492>Had to specify full dive because VR IS out right now and is currently getting buttfucked by modern day design trends
>>735157663>This. So much this.
>>735155875>turn 40 this yearDAMN!
>>735157385no, we cant attach something is retro because of hardware, to me is more about it belongs to a generation of people that grows in as specific cultural ecosystem... like if you would tell me from the begining of the 2000s to probably mids 2010s got its own identity, not 100% time online, downloads with usb cables or memories the norm, queus for entering the game stores, the consoles also being used as multimidia platforms and so on... to me this is what it makes a console retro, and yes i think ps3 and its relative contenders fall here, but not because of hardware but its own legacy
>>735153039>big corpo reminds you they're retarded to stay relevant for 5 more minuteswho caresgamestop is dead
>>735155875I agree. I'm 50 myself. Where has the time gone?
>>735157739
>>735153039""They"" want us to keep us reminded our time is constantly running out and let our funny self destructive thoughts run loose by forcing us to work the lines up and die for their butt buddy of a country If they want us to feel mercy with the absolute freak show the world has been the past 15 years they should let their AI faggotry make anti aging shit and no one would absolutely fucking care about highly manufactured ewaste being ""retro""
>>735155707Diminishing returns on graphical advancements. Graphics aren't important anymore. We peaked out 20 years ago on PC's, and have been held back by consoles since then because they pay developers to gimp games for their shitty outdated laptop hardware.
>>735153039shut up unc
>>735157871nigger consoles are based. FUCK your stupid graphics whoring, this is exactly why video games became bloated projects that take forever to develop. Maybe back in the PS360 days you had an argument, but now with these hardware prices for PC and the absolute lack of optimization? I'd quite literally be completely fine with PS4 level graphics so long as we got more than 1 good game a decade.
>>735156851its own indentity which was technical problems, hard to crack and deveped games for, beside of not leading and being produced in parallel with the past ps2 and psp...ps3 the lost generation of Sony that they want to pretend it did not happen
>>735157808the launch model 360s didnt even have hdmi ports. i call that retro.
>>735153039Unc, they're 20 years old
>>735158021The PS3 quite literally outsold the 360, which was considered the leader for half the gen. The fat PS3 also had no technical issues that were apparent when it was most used, those started dying years later, unlike the OG 360 systems. The slim units are rock solid. It's not a "lost" generation, but it had a rocky start and Sony had to fight for their place again which made us get some great exclusives back to back. It's hilarious that Sony at their worst still beat Microsoft at their best.
>>735153039Seventh gen doesn't feel old because the 8th and 9th gens are incremental improvements rather than inventing the UI from scratch. There also hasn't been as big a leap as the one from 4:3 480p to widescreen HD.
>>735157871it's not just graphics, almost all new AAA releases are derivates of PS360 era games just with even worse monetization
>>735157896What's wrong, Anon? You've barely touched your Product™.
>>735157113yeah exactly, core game design hasn't changed or evolved outside of even more microtransactions
>>735158275yeah i agreed, most changes have been the online adoption and the policies as well,
>>735158563If you unironically think this and aren't just trying to make yourself look cool online (which is retarded to do on an anonymous image board), you don't play videogames.
>>735153039>Wii UI never even bothered with that console. Didn't that shit barely last? Like 4 years or something?
>>735158458man i love flute, i still remember when my wife and i played it in our wedding
>>735158783Nta, you're just a dumb monkey. Game design hasn't meaningfully evolved.
>>735158907It was a fairly substantial marketing failure, but the last two generations of nintendo systems relaunched all their games so it's hard to really say the system itself was a failure.
It makes no sense to consider retro anything older than 20 years. Lumping together NES, Play 2 and XBOX 360 undermines the meaning of the word. Retro should be gen 6 and below, period. Or if anything, use the 2000s as a cut-off.
>>735158602Pretty fuckin' much. Constant BR slop barrage from everybody trying to replicate Fortnite's success, plus having Warzone shoved in our faces from every streamer and sad, pathetic loser trying to make a career out of gaming instead of getting a real job. Truth be told, I think that's where it may have gone wrong. People think gaming is some gateway to being an esports fag or streamer and games aren't games anymore. They're applications for too many players. All these faggots who are part of the marketing arm of these games constantly trying to demand changes and shit to make their jobs easier. Stupid people following along like sheep as of they even play the game the same way. Games need to go back to being games.
if current day normalfags can pick up and play it without crying then its not retro
>>735158997they need to sell hardware, so they are desperatly call for the old fags that dont play any more to sell their consoles, and then gamespot resell the hardware x10 the prices because of the retro speculatives
>>735158964>Game design hasn't meaningfully evolved.Ah yes because game design has to magically reach some totally arbitrary standard you have before anyone else is allowed to say that the manner in which people made games 20 years ago is different to how they made them now in a noticable way.
>>735153039/vr/ gonna have a meltdown once the senior care attendant wheels in the pcs for this months postathon
>>735158997>Play 2First time I've seen it called that lol. But I agree. >>735159054Especially when it comes to tank controls. If you don't like tank controls you're a dirty normalnigger.
>>735159223Pretty sure they were forward with the standards that they wanted to have (gen 5 and older) rather than this retarded game we play every year where retarded motherfuckers want people to think they're cool for saying a console that existed before they were cum is not retro
They're just doing this so they have an excuse to destroy excess amounts of hardware and games they have.
>>735153039theyre just doing this to jack up the price lolwall street is after all the cheap used goods that are a threat to their godtanic shit on the floor profitsthey wont winbut it might be a good idea to scoop up cheap ass hardware that is old if you dont already own working hardware
>>7351593207th gen will never be retro, no matter how much you seethe.
>>735153039
>>735153039I declare gamestop irrelevant
guy who thinks call of duty 4 resembles a ps1 game more than call of duty 23
>>735159410The fact that you are whining about how cool it makes you to ignore design trends proves you don't know a single thing you're talking about or even the website you're on.
>tfw just picked up this bad boygonna be worth thousands one day, mark my words....
>>735155707Everything past Resident Evil 4 should be considered non-retro
>>735158190it outsold the 360 because sony sent it to a bunch of thirdy countries in the early/mid 2010s, throughout the entirety of 2005-2011 it was the 360s gen lol. zoomers are so funny man
what does retro even mean at this point
>>735159491The fact you're a retarded zoom zoom who cannot come to terms with the fact your arguments are wrong is hilarious. Sorry faggy, 7th gen is not and will not be retro for a long time to come. You can still play and enjoy those games. They just won't be retro.
Flash "died" few years ago and now those same fucking games are coming back -but with microtransactions
>>735159586>The fact you're a retarded zoom zoom who cannot come to terms with the fact your arguments are wrong is hilarious.You're projecting.
>>735159547Nigger zoomie, people bought the 360 multiple times over because it kept dying. Not only that, but the PS3 was outselling the 360 globally from the very beginning, it was only Anglo countries where the 360 had a big lead. Europe and Japan rejected the hexbox. And by 2013 the PS3 had outsold the 360 completely. Again, this is with the absolutely atrocious 50% and over failure rate of the OG 360. By 2009 the 360 was faltering and then the Kinect came out and it was all over because MS decided to be even bigger retards and stopped releasing exclusives. Zoom zoom.
>>735159865You're projecting shit from your ass as you cry and can't come to terms your favorite generation isn't retro and cannot be retro. Too bad, so sad.
>>735155610>The seventh gen is 2 generations ahead of the fourth gen
>>735159547the things 360fags tell themselves, KEK. Xbox raped and got shitted on by the ChadStation. Xbox is dead and didn't win a single gen AAHAHAHAHA.
>>735159491>The fact that you are whining about how cool it makes you to ignore design trendsIgnoring design trends is exactly what makes people think 7th gen is retro.
>>735160052Saying "no u" doesn't really apply here.
>>735153303True only zoomerturds would say otherwise. Also any console with HDMI, online play with shop and docs can't be a very considered retro. Those games ar still getting remastered to this day
>>735153039nothing to do with age, 7th gen never ended, only wii is honorary retro
>>735155707industry went to shit and people ended up still playing games that originally released on the ps3 and 360 to this day.
>>735159585corpros wanting you to move on to the next hot liquid shit they made and ignore the past
>>735153039does that make gtav and the last of us retro games now? they came out the same year as the ps4, so is the ps4 retro now? does that make the last of us 2 retro? but that came out the same year as the ps5, so is that retro? is everything retro? where do we draw the line?
>>735153039You're old, yes. You get old as time passes. Consoles? Time doesn't mean they become retro unless you're mindless cattle.
>>735155638Thank Xbox for that.>>735155707Gen 7 killed gaming, it's damned to be stagnant aping PS2's era game design only adding shitty practices and trends onto the games. Enjoy!
>>735161000this is why it's so hard to call the 7th gen retro, because then suddenly you have to say these are retrogames when no one really feels that way about them
What are some Xbox 360 games anyway? Been thinking about buying one.>Gaylo>Ass Effect>Red Dead>I think the 7th gen ports of Diablo 3 aren't always-online so maybe that>Viva PinataI can think of a bunch of multiplats that are either better optimized on the 360 by comparison, or aren't DRMed out the ass on console by comparison, but what else is must play on this thing?
>>735157385>this is retro because I want to but this doesn't because I don't wannaNothing since the year 2000 is retro, it's just old shit. And old shit is always better than current, newly made shit. Now more than ever.>>735159223They're going to ignore it just like they did with gen 6. Only mods thought gen 6 was retro.
>>735161408crackdown
>>735161345when I'm in the mood for a bit of hardcore retro gaming I play Persona 5 on my PS3. the kids these days just don't get old school game design sensibilities
>>735161408Lost OdysseyBlue DragonHalo 3Halo Reach or ODST depending your approach to Halo if liked 3 or the seriesHalo Wars (competent RTS on console)Dorito's crash courseNinja Gaiden 2The functional version of Fallout NV if you squintKameoHexic HDDreamcast collectionPerfect Dark HDAll those Japanese shmup/bullet hell like Espgaluda 2 and MushishihimeBanjo duology HDNuts and BoltsBayonetta's releaseAlso, the superior version of GTAV5 for some reason thanks to lighting effects and ingame world detailsPay attention if the Xbone hack takes off if you want to keep a console to play gen 8 releases.
>>735153039Retro era is 2600 to Dreamcast.
>>735161345You know you probably could have done yourself a favor by not putting minecraft on there since nowadays people consider current minecraft and pre-infworld/adventure update minecraft two practically different games
>>735161870/thread
>>735161408The 360 version of Deadly Premonition is still the best version, at least it was the last time I checked. If you like JRPGs I'd also recommend Tales of Vesperia. Dead or Alive 4 is a great fighting game that has a lower barrier to entry and is still a true 360 exclusive. If you want to relive the dude bro era of 7th gen then Gears 2 and 3 are still 360 exclusive. That other anon who replied to you basically recommended everything else I would mention.
>>735153039GameStop is simply wrong. "Seventh Gen" games cannot be "retro," because they principally play exactly the same as current games. This was the point that processing power and GPUs reached the point where games reached the limit of what a human can actually do in-game with a controller or keyboard and mouse (same input devices we use today) in 3D space with effectively realistic graphics. There's been no hardware improvement or breakthrough to update the way humans interface with the games (ignoring "VR" because that was garbo and rightfully died), so all improvement has been polishing what are effectively the same games in largely superficial ways. Having a higher frame rate, or moar pixels, or putting more stuff on-screen or more projectiles for the game to track at once, etc. Which is nice, but not a "generational" leap in any sense.
>>735162000adventure update predates 360 edition
>>735161870Hi Robb
>>735155707>>735162507
>>735156053i felt this way about the PS2 but have been coming around to realize it was a good gen in retrospect. nothing like for the PS3 tho - that whole gen woulda been a complete wash if not for FromSoft.
>>735162680Cool, while you're pretending to know what you're talk about, how was 360 edition when it came out?
>>735163036no clue, i never played it, all i know is it came out after i quit playing minecraft.
>>735162507the generational leap was nintendo with motion controls but devs and audiences chose the superficial path. What else could have been the breakthrough to evolve gaming if not the way in how the player interacts with it? Graphics reached good levels 20 years ago.
Anything 20 to 100 years old is vintage, not retro. Retro does not mean old, but something new inspired by old designs.
>>735163117Maybe you should have considered that before saying something really silly online as an "authority".
>>735163228just pretend i posted roblox or something
>>735155707The modern video game has already been perfected. There is nothing left to improve.
>>735161408Metal Gear Rising (of course you can just play it on PC)Just Cause 2 is pretty fun (currently $1.50 on Steam)The good version of NieR without the faggy teenager (you will have to find a physical copy for this or emulate it)The two good FallOut games, but those are, of course, on Steam, and modding is a significant feature.Burnout: Paradise is an all time "arcade" racing game, but I have no idea if the physical copy is even playable anymore, and the """Remaster""" on Steam is a notorious trashfire.
>>735153039According to some people, Castlevania 2 would not be considered retro when the Angry Videogame Nerd reviewed it.
>>735163464Do you have some kind of learning disability?
>>735163582what's the problem? games people were playing in the 7th gen era are still played today. people have a hard time designating them as retrogames.
>>735162368To whoever else read this post, do not play Tales of Vesperia. Definitely do not give the soulless corrupted monkey cunts at Bandai your money, but also don't even pirate it. The combat is clumsy garbage, and the game itself is so much pointless fucking yammering that 25 hours in, I stopped playing to google when the game actually got good. Responses to several other people asking the same thing generally suggested that was what the game was, it didn't get better, and then I realized I was actually googling when a game became fun 25 fucking hours into it and gave up to do something else with my life.The only even half good Tales game is Tales of Berseria.
>>735163728Tales games are all bootycheeks
>>735163485>There is nothing left to improve.interactivity, artstyle and world building interactions and responses.
>>735163171Motion controls were devolution. In every way, they were inferior to a dualstick controller. Kinda like VR.
>>735153039If you're an adult and you grew up with it it's retro. Blame societies stagnation that shit hasn't advanced since the early 2000s
Someone get /vr/ on the horn.
>>735163849>Motion controls were devolution. In every way, they were inferior to a dualstick controllerFPS and RTS. If you truly think a different control scheme is bad for not being traditional you may have been one of those fat "hardcore" players complaining back then
>>735163728I went into the game with the full understanding that the IP is shounen tier slop and was able to enjoy parts of it with that in mind. maybe I'm just too disrespectful of my own time and far too forgiving for games that don't deserve it. the JRPG home console drought during 7th gen definitely elevated the perception of the game because there wasn't much else to play.
>>735163547>GenXers in the 2000s: yeah the NES and SNES were retro game consoles I mean more than 10 years ago seems pretty old to me and I was young.>Millenials now: NOOOOOO I DONT CARE IF IT HAS BEEN 20 YEARS! IT IS NOT RETRO! I DONT CARE IF IT IS BY ALL DEFINITIONS RETRO IT...IT JUST ISNT OKAY! IM NOT OLD! IM NOT OLD! IM NOT OLD! IM NOT OLD! IM YOUNG AND HIP! IM JUST A KID!once again millenials being escapist faggots who get offended by everything including time.
all retro is old but not all old is retro, I hope that helps
>>735164091it will happen to you
>>735164091only 6 more years until elden ring is a retro game...
>>735153039I am rescinding this declaration
>>735164091>t. zoomer seethenot everyone is a generational fetishist like you, kid.
>>735153039They are 20 years old, Anon. The 360, in particular is 22 years old.Let it go. You're old.
>>735155707Desperate cope to pretend you aren't getting old. The PS3 generation is actually older now than the NES was when I was a kid, but there are still xoomers and early millenials trying to "gatekeep" the concept of "retro" despite the concept existing long before either gen was born. Those retards get propped up by retards here who don't even play videogames parroting easily disprovable bullshit like >>735156921 and having predictable meltdowns when told otherwise.
>>735164478>They are 20 years old, Anon.
>>735153039>/vr/ still won't let you post themLMAO.
>>735164530>Those retards get propped up by retards here who don't even play videogames parroting easily disprovable bullshit like >>735156921Ok, then; disprove it, should be easy for you.
>>735161345Facts don't care about your feelings.
why are gen z niggers weaponizing time and age as a "own", and you dumb asses are on the way out anyways so dont deny it with the deflections you faggots have been doing these past couple years
>>735164658Another anon already tried, and you had that predictable meltdown as a result. The only answer you'd ever accept is the one that agrees with you even if it means deluding yourself into thinking 2+2=7.
>>735164764>Another anon already triedOK, then; quote it.>and you had that predictable meltdown as a result.No, that's your schizoid brain trying to create a picture of it.>The only answer you'd ever accept is the one that agrees with youStop projecting.
>>735164598It's probably a necessary gatekeeping tactic. If you permit 360 or PS3 posting on that board, suddenly you're going to have people making threads about games like Uncharted 3 or Dead Space 2 on there. At that point the floodgates are basically almost open for anything.
>>735164827>what's 4+4 and don't you dare tell me it's 8!!!!
>>735155707We lived through the most turbulent and progressive time for technology that will be looked back on the same way as the transition to the industrial revolution, and we're now living in the embers of that last hurrah for humanity that will remain unmatched for hundreds of years. We're now in the slow collapse phase where all of us get to suffer because we aren't part of the owner class who gets to control all of this wonderful technology.
>>735164829oh noooo the board for old retro games will have something other than "bing bing wahoo ocarina of time is teh besteststststststst game of all time woo nintendo man fuck those guys actually doing something with the duke nukem forever 2001 leak th-they must be t-t-t-t-t-tjRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNIES" in itthe horror
>>735164829That's the same as gen 6 as moot stated. In the end doesn't matter if the board's nature reject it like it with barely any gen 6 related barely having traction there and gen 6 being recurrent topic on /v/ (about modern gaming). It's that simple but some mods chose to be irresponsible with that move.
So how's the gamestop stock doing nowadays? What's the "buy up all gamestip stocks nao" movement doing nowadays?
>>735164921Quote it, silly. An actual quote (not a pic) and don't even dare to quote to a post seething like your crappy pic, pls.
>>735153039Anon, the ps3 was 20 years agoThink about that
>>735165173>Think about that>20 years>gaming hasn't improved since then>gen 6 and 7 games still are fresh in visuals and gameplay to this day
>>735165006You good my nigga?
i bought a launch ps3 when i was a full ass adult with money i made from working at my fucking job
>>735165249>that time where vidya was trying to implement voice commands into the game>Binary Domain had this as a fun gimmick>leading an army in TC's Endwar>be a little silly and say take that hill niggers!>we don't understand that order sir!kek, sad devs don't try fun shit like this anymore
>>735161814>doritos crash courselolalso I literally had less crashes on the PS3 version of NV, that was funny. Gta V is definitely not superior for the same reason PS3 LA Noire is better. Also, I hope the xbone hack does take off so we can play 360 games offline on it. And games in general. Stupid fucking thing requires an account even if you want to stay offline and play physical discs.
>>735155707unironically the stagnation, death and decay of worldwide culture and arts under the wrath of the internet and sillicon valley
>>735164478>They are 20 years old, Anon. The 360, in particular is 22 years old.oof thank goodness, that makes me just 7 years older than the 360, so i guess i can still play games and enjoy of them
>>735163728>>735163761Wrong. Tales of Eternia is absolute peak kino vidya and full of soul. Best Tales game by far and an amazing game in general.
>>735165635Can you blame them? This chart only goes up to around 2013 too.
>>735165681>also I literally had less crashes on the PS3 version of NV, that was funny.The odds for that are incredibly low for how the game works and affects the PStriple so i must DOUBT.jpg>Gta V is definitely not superiorYou can find a line of videos on yt showing stuff present in gen 7's releases but missing on the later consoles.
>>735165635>Binary Domain had this as a fun gimmick>downgraded into "Hey, Xbox... TV!"Western men in charge of gaming, never ever.
>>735165091Anyone in the know?
7th gen mainline consoles don't feel retro to me at all, but the DS sure does. What do you think of these games anons
>>735165786There's gotta be a collapse habbening soon their budgets are surpassing hollywood and are having even bigger flops. This cannot be sustainable
>>735165993super star saga was peak, all the rest got not idea
>>735166131we need the devs to start fullying the industry with shit, then another ET that sparkle everything, gta VI will be
>>735165868The main issue with NV is the save file bloat. On vanilla NV it progresses far slower and you can easily beat the game even taking your sweet time. I had far more crashes playing the ultimate edition on 360, even after disabling autosaves. Could just be the 360 shitting itself as usual due to being horrendously unreliable but who knows. And yeah, the original GTA V on the PS360 is a better game, I agree. That's not what I was talking about anyway.
>>735165993>but the DS sure does.functional touchscreens are inherently a modern technology's result. It'll neve be retro until holograms
>>735166154superstar saga was a gba game anon
>>735166289functional touchscreens were already a thing in the 80s lol what a dumb take
>>735165993Gen 4 and 5 were peak pokemon
>>735165993I can see the reasoning behind DS potentially being argued as retro given the limited specs of the handheld, although I will still disagree in the end.
>>735155859>im in my 29skek, dumbass.
>>735166512To me the DS feels retro because of its gameplay ideas. It's very experimental. In fact to me it feels like a successor to the PS1. Japanese devs had a lot of fun trying out wacky stuff on it and it was extremely popular. Been playing that one game where you control various giant robots on it right now, it's so fucking good. Made by the same guys who did EDF.
it's not retro if it has HDMI out
>>735155707Cause you're old bitch
>>735153039xbox 360 came out 21 years ago brosits not just retroits ancient
>>735166308and i played it there anon, i still have those images, was one of the first rpgs i ever beat, was very hard to me as well even to get directions, cause wasnt english my first language so i somehow figured out direction dont know how
>>735166510I still can't believe faggots complained about White/White 2. Absolutely insane. You got a whole entire new dex alongside all the old mons in the post game and everything was still in that peak 2D style but now fully animated and niggers STILL complained. No fucking wonder gamefreak never tried again. I WANT ANOTHER GAME THAT LOOKS LIKE POKEMON WHITE NOWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>735166518ahh why
>>735153039buy an ad
>>735155859same except I just turned 30. Wanna be frens anon
>>735166430>functional touchscreens>80sno lol
>>735167030yes lol
>>735167009i only befriends netpunia girls so, if your
>>735153039It's retro if you can't buy it new
>>735167108Been meaning to play some nep on my triple but I heard those games are not very good. Maybe I'll be a neptunia girl one day.
Are the "number go up" people baiting or what?What's explained to them is so fucking simple and they literally pretend not to comprehend it at all and reply with "number go up"The fact that they literally don't engage with what you're saying to them and just repeat themselves makes me think it's mostly one extremely active asshole like the "Nobody ever called it a PSX" retard
Putting everything under one single "Retro" label once it reaches a certain age is so fucking retarded and I hate that this is what video games decided to do. There is a world of difference between SNES games and Wii U games. Video games need to be split into distinct periods the way music is split by decades for example.
>>735167317They really want their favorite gen to be retro because they think it gives the gen more prestige. That's literally all it is. They're just salty little kids kek.
>>735167260>Maybe I'll be a neptunia girl one day.till then anon, i would like to be one ngl... we are happy tho, we are getting a reboot of the series with new girl consoles
>>735167604did the xbox nep get killed?
>>735167067>no proof
>>735167523It's just crazy because it is in fact true that games used to become "retro" really quicklyBecause an entirely new, undreamt of paradigm is inventedPeople saw Doom or FF7 or GTA3 or Mario 64 and went "Wow, I've never seen a game like that before, this changes the world"And then around the time of Crysis and Halo 3 that just never, ever happens again
>>735165981They're still losing their shirts over delusions that the US gov will give them infinite money. Search "GME Meltdown" if you'd like to see more of it.>>735165993The DS was the last one to have severe limitations on design and imo felt more like a low-spec 3D capable GBA to me. There were plenty of games like Rocket Slime that would have been at home on prior gen systems easily.
>>735153039If it came out when Drake and Josh was still on and this song was all over the radio, it's retro.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7UrFYvl5TE The retro era ended on December 21st 2012 when the 13th baktun of the Mayan calendar ended.
>>735167753>retarded pantshitting zoomie can't googleyour gen isn't retro no matter how much you cry about it
>>735167726dont know, im new in the series so could not say too much, but i dont like xbox so i hope she did
>>735155875>>735157840Stop being virgins and get a wife!
Behold! A retro game.
>>735166430A lot of stuff we associate with the "modern era" started in the 80s or 90s. The first smartphone came out in 1993, and the concept of using a phone to get instant information was already a thing in the 80s with Nintendo Power hotlines. Technology evolves more gradually than people like to pretend it does.
>>735168036I've been married since the late 2000s.
>>735167859Basically. Game design has completely stagnated and we've only seen slight refinements. Until there's an actual revolution in how we play using game hardware things aren't going to change. PS2 is retro because devs were still figuring stuff out. By the PS3 that was over and done with and we've been playing the same things ever since.
>>735165993Amazing, Platinum and BW2 are probably my favorite Pokemon games, best Pokemon spinoffs, best Pokemon remake, best M&L
>>735168062You know it's retro because the game got older!
>>73516354717 year then brought about a paradigm shift in how games were rendered and designed. Now playing a 17 year old game like Dead Space means nothing. It still boots without any additional patches, looks good and doesn't need any gameplay tweaks when "remastered". See the remake.
>>735168212this. but in solo games, the real revolutions since ps3 have been on service mobile games, no im not refering to games with external conections, but the service as a game, that is where devs have been figuring out new things, now it feels like they have reached the peak of what these could give, and every new online game feel like the same skin over and over
>>735167887The DS was very weak hardware and so devs had to really optimize and innovate. It was great. Limitations are necessary for creativity. >>735168239Platinum's Distortion World was so cool. The whole entire game has a great vibe, very comfy to play. B/W are peak pokemon experiences visually. Seething we'll never get anything like them ever again. GOD the 3DS generation sucked apart from ORAS.
You think you got it bad?I am owed mechs and laser guns and power armor
>>735168569>apart from ORAS.ORAS was fucking hyperass. The free Latios/Latias combined with pic rel just made me wish I was playing Emerald instead. What a travesty.
My favorite retro games are GTA5 and Breath of the Wild. I miss them so much bros
>>735168640If you take away ORAS the 3DS has nothing left. I choose to like it because otherwise I'll feel bad for the system.
>>735155707I dont think it does though. I was playing Resident Evil 5 the other day and it feels so old
>>735168632plane in 100 years
>>735168846Super Mystery Dungeon is cool. Fact of the matter is that Pokémon isn't a very good series and the main appeal of the 3DS was other, better JRPGs.
>>735153039Tell that to /vr/.
>>735168632plains in 100 years
>>735155707Because games haven't changed. PS5 games are just PS3 games with better (sometimes) graphics.The actual gameplay? All PS3 era.
>>735168632you'll get drones killing drones and you'll like it
Super Mario Odyssey is older right now than Super Mario Bros was when 64 came out
>>735168906Pokemon was an excellent series before the 3DS though. The were fast paced JRPGs combined with creature collecting autism. I also think the DS mogs the 3DS when it comes to other JRPGs as well. To me the DS has more soul, though the 3DS does have some too. Nintendo taking away themes from us makes me angry to this day.
>>735169048where's the next 3D mahrio game nintendo? And no more waggle shit this time.
>>735168975ace combat 9 is going to be really fucking gay
>>735168954What does /vr/ think?
>>735169173didn't the new ace combat already get pozzed
>>735169245they will gladly agreed
>>735155707Because graphics have plateaued ever since, modern games have higher graphical fidelity but there haven't been any revolutionary leaps and there are late-gen PS3 games that wouldn't look out of place if they released today. Even the underpowered and woefully out of date hardware of the Xbox 360 was managing graphical feats like Halo Reach that still hold up well today towards the end of its life.
>>735169326the power of the cell unironically blew me away. God of War 3 was the first PS3 game I ever played and at the time I couldn't believe the graphics. Shit looked real. And the game is STILL super impressive. The opening with all those titans and you're moving and climbing and fighting on top of them? So good. While the titans had more polygons than entire levels in other games of the time.
>>735169282They sound retarded
>>735169269I don't know I saw the announcement at Geoff's show and didn't bother to look anything else up. Ace combat doesn't really innovate that much .
>>735169326>contradicts himself within the first sentence
>>735169634>being this pettykek
>>735169634"Plateaued" doesn't mean "literally zero progress at all" you tard.
>>735165635Let's not pretend Binary Domain is innovative in any shape or form
>>735169770>redefining the meaning of words so you can avoid being wrong
>>7351698457th gen will never be retro lol
>>735164667The same dictionary also has ancient "of or from a long time ago, having lasted for a very long time". You wouldn't say stuff like "in ancient times, a Kmart was located here" unironically.
>>735169794Nowhere in my post did I say it was, retard.
>>735169845Well the Oxford Dictionary disagrees with your interpretation of the word, faggot.>(the full definition tab is behind a paywall and I'm not doing that for an internet argument)
>>735169770enough definition to look realistic i would say, from there is just a +++ nd more +s
>>735170134You're a blind retard if you genuinely think "little to no" visual fidelity improvements have occurred between 7th gen and now. Even indie asset flips have higher fidelity visuals than that TLOU2 screen you posted, disingenuous cunt.inb4 attempting to compare a direct capture screenshot of a ps3 game to a screenshot of a low res youtube video
>>735162252Came here for this reaction kek.
>>735155707Your age relative to the release.
>>735155638The selling point of consoles was no longer>better games!It was>you can browse the internet, message friends, watch netflix, etc.
Just kill me already. I've lived for far too long. I should've died years ago.
>>735153039GameStop is retro. The only reason to shop at one is sentimental nostalgia.
>>735168036I refuse
>>735168036No
>>735170662This is absolutely wrong, especially given the fact that at the time the 7th gen consoles launched Netflix's streaming service didn't exist and they were still posting DVDs to subscribers.
>>735155707Imo modern games start somewhere around 2010. It's not just graphics but 00s have weird UI, controls and design choices that definitely feel dated. By the 10s most of mainstream genres mostly got set and haven't changed much since.
>>735171009I remember that buying PS3 for the bluray drive was a thing because bluray players were still somewhat uncommon at the time, but I don't think it was a big part of it's marketing at the time and it was sold mostly as a games console. Pretty sure PS2 could play movie DVDs too and it wasn't all that notable either. It was with Xbox one that the push for the "one living room media system" kind of shit started.
>>735171734>etty sure PS2 could play movie DVDs too and it wasn't all that notable either.They literally marketed them on anime DVDs back then.
>>735153039>It's been 15+ yearsHurry up /vr/, time to add PS3, X360, and Wii U as retro consoles.
>>735155707The PS3 doesn't feel modern at all. There's a huge rift between PS4/PS5 era games and PS3.
>>735155707>How is it that the ps1 already felt retro 10 years after launch but the ps3 20 years later still feels modern?People said the same thing about the SNES games being ported to the GBA in the early 2000's.
>>735153039So will those consoles be allowed in /vr/ now?
>>735169326But graphics haven't plateaued. Ray tracing is pretty transformative for graphics and even if you ignore reflections, ray traced shadows and global illumination completely transform a scene compared to rasterized effects.If you compare path traced Cyberpunk to PS3 TLOU, the difference is as big as between PS3 TLOU and late PS2 games.The progress slowed down a bit, taking closer to 1.5 gens now, but it hasn't plateaued at all.
>>735172265That would imply Gamestop's word is taken as gospel.
>>735171734the PS3 was sold with blu-ray movies as pack-ins, anonwe memed on it for shipping with dumb shit like Talladega Nightsthey literally used the spiderman movie font for the logothe consoles were sold at a loss, sony tried their hardest to make up some profit on peripherals like the blu-ray remote and licensing fees for blu-ray discs which was proprietary and owned by them
>>735172265No because there's no formal definition of what a retro game is and /vr/ decides what it allows on its own. They'll eventually be allowed there but it's not up to Gamestop.
>>735171734>>735171838The PS2 being a DVD player was a big deal at the time because naturally a DVD player was something that everyone wanted and IIRC the PS2 cost about the same as a decent DVD player at the time while also being a shiny new games console with graphics that blew the previous gen out of the water.The PS3 being a Blu-ray player was much less notable, the PS3 was an expensive bit of kit and the kind of HD TVs that would actually benefit from Blu-ray content were also still fairly expensive and wouldn't be really common until years later, so on the video watching front most people didn't really have an incentive to upgrade from whatever DVD-playing device they already owned.
>>735172307>>735172384Sorry. *kneel* but will /vr/ as a collective decide that or the jannies?
>>735172384idk they just made a post in 2020 saying ps2, gcn, xbox and gba are retrothey probably discussed it on some gay discord or /board/ of theirs ahead of timemaybe a janny can chime in and answer that but that's impossible as that'd require them not being homos
>>735172393This may just be my specific bubble but I feel everyone sort of skipped Blu-ray era in general. At first the players were expensive and uncommon, most people stuck with their old DVD players and next time they got a new TV it was already a smart TV with streaming apps built in so nobody got a dedicated player just for physical media.
>>735173179sorry i'm retarded, i meant >>735172706
It'll be funny seeing oldfag larpers disfigure /vr/ even further once PS3, 360 and Wii are allowed.
>>735165091GME rugged ages ago and is now on life support
>>735173207You're not the only one, my family completely skipped over Blu-ray and apart from one guy who got a PS3 - and didn't have a HD TV at the time anyway - I can't remember any of my friends buying into it either.
>>735166263>The main issue with NV is the save file bloatIt's memory issues slowly crashing the game.
>>735153039Anything post 99 is not retro
>>735168114>A lot of stuff we associate with the "modern era" started in the 80s or 90s.Hence the key word; functional. 80s/90s versions were held back by tech of the time. >>735167963Did the 90s have fully colored touchscreens akin to your phone? It should be easy for you to answer, fake old woman
>>735155707Little to no advancements In the gaming sphere.
>>735170539I was 15 by ps1, it wasn't dated or retro 10 years after eom to me.>>7351711852000, all currently comes from the 6th gen.
>>735176603As much as that is a classic I will never accept a game with RMB for inventory, space to interact, E to jump and diceroll combat in first person as a modern game.Even if you insist Skyrim is a worse game in some way it still feels modern (even if just because they re-released it 5 times and have done nothing else since) while Morrowind is weird and jank.
>>735176965>combat in first person as a modern gameThat's irrelevant, genres can be made at any point in time. last decade had dungeon crawlers just fine.
It’s joever
>>735155707Games take like 10 years to develop now.Several studios release one big game per console generation.
>>735177107You know what I mean.And dungeon crawlers are a retro genre. You can make one as an indie throwback, but selling one as a full priced game would be laughable. The fact legend of grimrock exist doesn't really make it modern. And that one came out like 15 years ago anyhow and I don't think even indies have done anything of note since.
>>735155707Because going from PS1 -> PS2/Xbox -> PS3/Xbox 360 were gigantic generational leaps in graphics in the span of 10-ish years.Nowadays, modern games BARELY look any better than PS4/Xbone games.
>>735177472>And dungeon crawlers are a retro genreYou're thinking in old school.>but selling one as a full priced game would be laughable. Etrian Odyssey did it just fine.
>>735164091Skyrim is retro
>>735153039Autocorrected retard to retro.
>>735176428Why? What makes 1999 so special?
>>735178162The last new Etrian Odyssey released on a retro console (3ds)
>>735155707There has been no appreciable technological improvement in video game technology.Going from 1gb vram to 4 is a bigger leap than 4 to 8. The difference between 1080p and 4k gaming is only 4x more pixels. A big difference would be 30k gaming at 1000hz.VR and real-time AI video to video are the future of gaming.
>>735155707There's two kinds of retro: one is simply age and the other is technology development. GTAV, Gears of War, Resident Evil 5, etc. age-wise are retro but tech-wise feels as modern as games two generations older with relatively minor graphical leaps at best.
>>735177196thousands upon thousands of destroyed game discs because they wanted to stand up the console vertically for photo shoots.
>>735177196>Xbox 360>Infinite Master ChiefFucking hell.
>>735179061Wait, that was something that could happen? I had my 360 vertically for its entire lifetime and never had any problems with it wrecking discs.
>>735179352While it was running, probably.
NOOOOO STOP THE COUNTYOU CANT DO THIS I HAVENT GOTTEN MARRIED YET!!!!
>>735155638You could run Linux on the PS3. Come on now.
>>735155707Someone or many people ITT have said the obvious which is stagnation. Think of the leap to colorized film or even going from silent films to films with sound. Think of people using stop-motion special FX and models for so long and jumping to CGI. There hasn't been anything new or even great from 2005-2006 to now. Were still using even the same smartphones and the internet and everything else largely feels the same. I would even argue were regressing. 2D animation the once grand cornerstone is a dead artform.
>>735179561VR is the next step but adoption is slow and it's still expensive. The software and immersion sides are also lacking.
>>735153039They're retro, because they reminded PC gamers of the visuals they were used to 10 years prior.
