Are deserts inherently a bad game setting
>>735162246>EarthBoundThe most boring stretch by a mile is when you’re solo Jeff in Winters for about an hour
>>735162246No
>>735162246retarded take kys
Act 2 of Diablo 2 is great, though.
I never understood the visceral hatred people have for desert levels.
>>735162404Actually it’s the cave with the 5 moles, which while technically in a desert is more a cave/maze level
>>735162246gobi valley is better than bubblegloop
>>735162246The desert level in super Mario 64 was pretty good
>>735162246No.
>>735162246Quite a lot of FFXII is desert and it's fucking awesome.
>>735162246Bottom middle isn't even a level. It's a three minute snowboarding minigame.
>>735162246https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yak_KtjMr4
>>735162246I enjoyed Ever Oasis. A desert region in a game is only bland when the devs choose to make it that way. They don't have to just be real life deserts but converted to game formats. Sandblasted cliffs that hide treasure filled caves, oases that swap the yellow for nice contrasting stuff, giant temples and ruins, something that emerges hidden from under the sand, blue moonlight changing the yellows and golds for blue and green contrasts, etc.
>>735162246Mazuri was the hardest Day S-Rank in Unleashed and I liked grinding it for awhile, so I will respectfully disagree.
>>735162551Forests and mountains are just better than deserts.
It's the yellow. Yellow is an "eh" color.
>>735162879I never finished Ever Oasis but it was nice for a while. Is it worth going back to or not?
>>735162246I miss when games had an obligatory Egypt level.
>>735162246Kinda just like that naturally what can really do with a desert setting
>>735162246no
>>735162616To this day I still don't know which of those fuckers was the actual third strongest
>>735162246They are shit irl
This thread is hilarious, people keep trying to post "owns" and then post the most boring dogshit imagineable.
>>735162246You're a bad game setting
>>735162246I liked it in uncharted with how he was lost and dying in the desert after the plane crash.
>>735162246That SA1 level is short and fun. Could have used the one from S3&K
deserts are my favorite maps in most games because I like sand and warm colorsgood thing that some of the best games ever have desert maps, like fallout 1 and age of empires
>>735162246Zeldas desert themes are always fun
Oh yeah, what about desert ladies?
>>735163967To add your posts, there are plenty of cool settings you can work with desertsIt can be post-apocalyptic, it can set in somewhere in Middle East like Egypt, it can set in the Wild West or it can be set somewhere in other planets if you're into sci-fiDeserts are surprisingly flexible as a setting Also desert themes are cool and they often have a specific vibehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNJVqALvWms
>>735162246I love exploring deserts in games for some reason. I know they tend to just be big flat empty planes and dunes of sand, but I've always enjoyed exploring them. Games that slow you down or don't give you some form of mobility in them can go to hell however.
>>735162246Bet he hates water levels too.Tasteless dregs.
>>735162246I like deserts. Tatooine in Kotor 1 is one of the better levels. Is this some new meme now like people gating on water in gen3 pokemon? Those people are dumb, too.
>>735162516bugman detected
>>735162246Deserts are literally the most untapped level design in the history of video games. Do you know what you can do with a desert if you design a whole game around it? everything. Egypt is one of the most historically well known cultures in literal history. Everything has happened there. It's also just one location in Africa, where there's ALSO the Sahara desert too.
>>735162246Based all deserts are shit
Tostarena and the Sand Kingdom is only the third place you visit in Super Mario Odyssey and it's superb
>>735162246No. One tweet does not indicate a consensus.
>>735162246Yes except for when they are crimson
>>735162246could have chosen a better example for the Metroid pic
>>735162246No but sewer levels suck 99% of the time>>735163796I was going to post this lol replaying tfe right now
>>735164860>Egyptbasically a top 10 KINO location no matter the genre>ancient aliens>occult magic>skellingtons and mummies>weird, cool looking font>one of the best god-king ruler aesthetics humanity ever came up withonly maya and aztecs can vaguely compare
>>735162246I like desert + arabic lute comboI'm a simple man
>>735162246tatooine was the best planet in star wars galaxies
>>735164860>desert level>lute music startsyup, it's gaming time
>>735162246N64 desert was kino as fuck but you would have to be unc like me to get it
>>735166536>arabic lute>dinn dinn dunn du dann deeewwwwn >arabic woman starts singing long notes>"War... has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity."
>enter desert level>scholastic utopia music starts playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_HpQdS0Ru8
only thing missing is civilians mixed into the villagesand being able to setup a personal camp site
>>735162246sneaky OP wanted us to post our favorite desert levels
nier automata desert is cool
>>735162246No, but ice deserts seem to be because I can't think of a good one.
Desert sucks in open world games (and some 3d games) since for them to feel like a desert they inherently need to have long stretches of fucking nothing but sand dunes.They are fine for 2d levels since these kind of games just use the vast sand ocean as a backdrop while you traverse either a very lively part of the desert if not only its main interest point (temple, city, cave, pyramid, village, oasis, etc...)
>>735162246Yes.You have to actually WORK to make them a good setting, because deserts are typically boring as fuck.That is why whenever we want to say there is a severe lack of something fun or good we call it some variant of X Desert.Like a Content Desert.And because modern game devs can't even work on basic game development things such as optimization and memory-space efficiency, or character design, they certainly can't tackle the hardest setting to make fun.It can be done. But not by the majority of game devs.
Any games that do something like the hanging gardens?
>>735167230>deserts are nothing but sand dunesholy retard
>>735167478Its in the name fag, if its empty then its not a desert.
Gobi's valley is a great level
>>735166914And being able to kill the civilian women and children like a real soldier
>>735163429>>735162616>To this day I still don't know which of those fuckers was the actual third strongest
>>735162246>shitting on gobi's valleywhat a faggot
>sa1 desert levelit's a thirty second not-snow boarding levelthe one from sonic and knuckles is the one everybody complains about
>>735162246>Hating on borderlands desertsPlease, road rage battles with your friends were fucking hilarious..
>>735167710AMAZING, mission complete! That right there is why you're the best, Boss - the one and only.
>>735162246i'm a strong diablo 2 act 2 enjoyer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vlw9Ulzm74
>>735167319That's a damn good question, I can't think of even one off the top of my head.
>>735167253>That is why whenever we want to say there is a severe lack of something fun or good we call it some variant of X Desert.>Like a Content Desert.retard, it's a content vacuum
>>735162246Yes because that’s where Muslims are from.
>>735162246Love deserts in games.
>>735162246what’s the functional difference between a desert level and a game like god of war that plays itself
>>735162476is that zeldaslop?
>>735162246>he says while posting Chapter 2, one of the best chapters in the original Paper MarioThe shit that you read on the internet man.
>>735166242Odyssey is the rare exception that based its desert section on mesoamerica rather than egypt.It's not overplayed, makes a world of difference.
>>735167319
vanilla tanaris is one of my favorite zones.
>>735168763Pretty good, I like the addition of water irrigation systems. Gerudo Town in BOTW had that too.
someone post the SMT and Nier deserts
>>735165986Act 2 is in a strange boat of having far and away the best ambience yet nearly the worst actual gameplay. Act 3 jungles are slightly more annoying to navigate but don't have the fucking scarabs.I think Arcane sanctuary is a perfect example, one of the coolest designs of any level in a early 2000s game, with 3 fucking dead ends and bugged enemies that mixed up their "per second" damage with "per frame" and horrible drop rates. Act 2 is great to think about but shit to play.
>>735162246The only good desert in this screenshot is Gobi's Valley. Mario Odyssey's desert is second place. There is not a third because these are the only fun desert areas in video games.
>>735162551i don't get water level hate they're not that bad yes even oot's
>>735162618bubblegloop is the worst level im the n64 titles. Mr. Vile is the worst Banjo character.
>>735162246Dry Dry Desert was fine, unraveling a desert mystery can be fun.I haven't played Metroid Fusion in over a decade so I can't remember that sectionidk what that isGobi's Valley was fine and not even the worst BK WorldI don't rememebr that section of Sonic Adventure being difficult or boringEarthbound is full of long treks, Dungeon Man wasn't even that bad.
>>735162769This is the worst one
>>735162246>Are deserts inherently a bad game settingyes.
No.
>>735170542>empty>barren>looks boring as shitWhat's the appeal?
>>735162791Especially the Ogir-Yensa and Nam-Yensa Sandseas. I don't think I've seen an ocean of quicksand in a game before and since FFXII.
>>735170659the moving castle
>>735162246Just give desert settings music that isn't dreary, and you immediately improve them by 1000%.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu_pNnEymLY
>>735162246>Twitter screenshot shitImagibe being so fucking low iq retard you cannot form your own opinions.Like seriously think about it. And I'm not talking about being informed, but just copy-pasting other people's opinions and arguments while never, NEVER, having any kind of input on anything. OP doesn't even participate in the discussion or expresd his opinions or views or have any takes of his own, he NEEDS someone else to think for him.Is OP even human? Why are lowest quality social media and news site ragebait article screenshots even allowed when OP offers literally nothing to thread? It has to be a bot-post. It has to be. Humans like to express themselves and their opinions when they get a chance.
>>735170061I think the main issue people had was with early 3D games, when camera controls were either garbage or non-existent. This made the levels disorienting. Besides that, here are a few buzzwords usually found in water levels: claustrophobic, labyrynthian, stressful (oxygen) and scary.
>>735162246this line of thought is how you get the luncheon kingdom btw
>>735170847So it's not the desert then.
>>735162246That guy is an idiot
>>735167319>>735168064Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Sky Sanctuary.
>>735167319Final Fantasy XII has Brujherba. I'm not sure if that counts.
luv me some desert
>>735162246They're usually pretty fucking boring if you go the Egypt route; once you've played through one you've mostly played them allI wish more games went with a more American Midwest sort of thing, like Mirage Saloon in Sonic Mania
>>735163084It's not that long, even if you do all the booth quests. I'd say sure if you want a cute action game.
>>735171143Luncheon kingdom is great though?
I noticed fromsoft games have almost every biome besides desert be a proper level, the only two deserts are gael's boss arena and Radahn's boss arena.The Loran chalice dungeons very much feel like crypts inside a desert which is cool.
>>735171312Well, it goes under the desert
deserts are only cool if there's really cool sand physics and particle effects
>>735172705There was supposed to be a desert area in Dark Souls 3 with horse riding that was the original way of getting to Archdragon Peak but it got cut
>>735170697Wild Arms 3 has oceans of sand, which you traverse on a boat which is also used in combat to fight massive monsters.
>>735172705Well the closest thing they had to a desert was DS2 horsefuck valley and it sucked, so I hope they never try.
>>735167319Sonic Riders has Babylon Garden, a pretty overt reference but it counts.I also wish there were more Hanging Gardens.
>>735173158That sounds pretty cool.
>desert has one of the most kino boss fights ever
Deserts are kino.https://youtu.be/fpSF1ofBlwM?t=106
>>735162616FACT but also Jeff's stretch is boring but its only 20 minutes long if not shorter.Metroid Fusion and Earthbound's sand area's are the best.
>>735162246Shifting Sand Land is far from boring.
>>735162246Deserts are in fact my favorite setting.
Every game in this series has a good desert level
>>735166946i need to play kotor again
>>735170697Monster Hunter has a sand sea map separate from the normal desert maps used to fight giant sand whale monsters, the live action movie actually has the beginning happening there
*solves desert music*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1tuD5xsLzo
>Nothing but deserts >Best level design in the seriesIt's not the desert it's how you design it. If the desert is just a big empty room it's boring. If the desert is a twisty mess with secrets everywhere and ruins it's kino.
>>735162246I remember the desert level for DK64 fondly, it went by quickly from what I can recall.
>>735162516>maggot lair>arcane sanctuary>scarabs AOE electricity>poison fucking everywhere>half of the act is purposeful deadends made to waste your time
Deserts are only an issue when they're giant empty shitholes that you require a level-exclusive mobility system to traverse. As such, something like Toastarena, or the MP4 bike desert blow ass.Inclusion of a vehicle to traverse an environment is tacit admission that the level is inherently unfun to play through otherwise, and you need to alleviate it with a high speed method of transportation.
>>735173620For me it's.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80p1ykp9CfM
>>735162246Diablo 2 act 2 is great. especially the music
>>735162246yes, and i'm sick of the US going over to sand land for their wars. Like goddamn, change it up for once and go to war against snowland or back to a jungle. We'll be getting another 40 years of games focusing on sand now because of this.
>>735167319Tactics Ogre's endgame takes place in the Hanging Gardens, a sprawling series of mini-battles where your ability to get through it in a timely manner will depend on your ability to track down hidden doors across the battlefields, since there's tons of different routes to take through the labyrinthine gardens.Of course, since the battlefields are all so high up, you could knock out enemies early with a well-timed crit to drop them into the abyss - but they can just as easily do that to you.
>>735162516>Annoying as fuck electric retaliation scarabs>Annoying as fuck necromancer anubites>Annoying as fuck tomb hopping searching for the right place>Worst end act boss of all time>Bad music compared to act 1Yea, no
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>>735168763>Lasts for exactly 6 minutes before you go fight neanderthals into fucking chinaWhat a HUGE waste.
>>735166834Correction stringed musical instruments were only played christian slave girls that were usually European. Because it was haram for Muslim women to do anything
>>735173609Which Monster Hunter? I've only ever played World.
>>735163796Was going to post this. Luv me sum desert
>>735162516YOU MAY NOT PASS
>>735173609https://youtu.be/R1J1na1_IkQ?si=PiQuzDnN4iDhoGHB
Prince of Persia was a great series
>>735162246Desert courses in Mario Kart are kino thogheverbeit
I like 'em, I think they're neat.
>>735167319FFXI - Ru'Aun Gardens
>>735173340that ring is a huge letdownthere's nothing there of interest the ring is just there to be there
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I actually liked the big desert in Ratchet and Clank 2. These games are all linear and usually very closed in so it's pretty refreshing to experience a level that's just all expansive and open.
That X post was made by someone with pronoun in their bio, wasn't it?
>>735177072The car with the spring jump is so fucking fun to drive
