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Why is Genshin still more popular than WuWa?
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>>735262136
Without saying “that it’s a better game?”
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I saw a video today of some elf girl from wuwa wearing high heels and vigorously thrusting her heel in and out of some guys urethra while standing on his testicles with her other foot until they splattered everywhere
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Genshit was basically the first gacha that was a game instead of a 2D autobattler as a free anime clone of BotW (which was still very popular at the time) that could run on phones during the dead of coof. It was also pretty accessible since the first region is just fantasy germany with a very light story, not too many technical terms and the objective is established immediately within the opening cutscene.
WuWa came later as a clone of it when the market was already competitive and was distinctly not during the coof. The visuals are arguably not as appealing since it has a more grey look and was more overtly chinese which is decidedly less popular with more international audiences of this type, especially with the story. It begins with something about how you lost your memory and there was a fight or something, I don't even remember, and then you're immediately handheld around by NPCs throwing all these xiao hong xhu words at you that you're expected to just retain.
I do think the character models in WuWa look much better though, even if I don't care much for the designs in either game.
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>>735262136
gachashit is not vidya
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>>735262779
her?
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>>735262136
Ignoring quality entirely for a second. Genshin was first to market and caters more to normalfags. Better or worse, it's just gonna be more popular off that alone.
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>>735262136
wuwa designs are fucking trash
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>>735262505
genshin isn't better than anything sorry to say
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>>735262136
Because it came first, it was the first gacha that had AAA production levels, and it also had the incredible luck of COVID happening so it attracted a huge audience of people that would've otherwise never touched an anime game.
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>>735262136
because SHiN is such an obnoxious cunt that him leacing genshin for wuwa made it fail
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>735262136
Wuwa is Genshin if Ubishit made it.

It lacks any of the artistic flair, charming stories, lore environment, charm, soul, world design, and so on. The Remuria world quest in Genshin hits higher highs than any Wuwa main quest. https://youtu.be/qbKPbXf4m4I Traveler playing the final bittersweet encore of a long dead civilization has more heart in it than any game soundtrack, let alone gacha ones from the past ten years at least.

It lacks a standout artstyle, compelling open world, meaningful lore, or really anything you can call personality. Hell, they really lost any kind of commitment to calling the open world a selling point. Its pretty much not incentivized at all.

Hoyo as a whole set the music bar really high, I can't blame Wuwa for not even scratching the surface of what Hoyomix has been able to crank out. This area song from the last desert update took me all the way back to when I was a kid playing KotOR 2 on my og Xbox https://youtu.be/M_1gGEQxVfg
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>>735263406
Elemental reaction framework is infinitely more complex than wuwa dodgeslop.

An unspoken part of selling a gacha is 1. Is your gameplay worth playing every day? Obviously not EVERY day for most people, especially with short daily completion skips like condensing resin in Genshin or just doing the scratcher and shit in ZZZ, but is it good enough to not be a chore to do daily if you have to?

And 2. Can your gameplay be achieved better elsewhere? Part of why I'm a ZZZ casual, and why I decided not to play GFL2 is because of this. If I really wanted some tight action gameplay, I could just boot up DMC. If I really wanted refined turn based arena combat, I could boot up XCOM.

Genshin having a unique or at least very uncommon elemental system that allows for flexible teambuilding and a variety of playstyles within it makes the game still standout.
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>>735262136
Put on the trip shin
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>>735264589
You haven't played the game if you honestly believe this.
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>>735262136
Too much ching ching and trannies latches so hard onto wuwa they unironically killed the fandom
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>>735265178
If he was wrong more people besides Shin would have played it
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>>735265076
>Elemental reaction framework is infinitely more complex
It's literally just a damage multiplier or flat damage added to an attack. If you think basic multiplication and addition are complex concepts you're an absolute retard.
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>>735265178
aranara wq better than wuwa main quest desu
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>>735265348
>int and fth are the same bro, you're still just throwing projectiles

If you're reductive enough with how a game is played, its still all just pressing buttons.
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>>735262136
People don't want to admit it, but these days fandom plays a huge role in a game's growth and popularity. Genshin's fandom is massive and welcomes secondaries who just want to post shipart or goon to the characters. WuWa's fandom, on the other hand, is filled with ML cultivation wish fulfillment fans from countries like India and the Philippines who throw a schizophrenic bitchfit when a girl isn't explicitly for (You) and harass and insult anyone who dares say otherwise.
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>>735265434
>If you're reductive enough with how a game is played
I'm not being reductive at all, that's literally all it is and you're trying to shill it as some amazingly complex system. I swear it feels like 90% of Genshinfags have never played another game in their lives. They'll talk about how beautiful the game looks and then post a screenshot of the most generic, empty grassland you've ever seen. Then they'll see a pink haired anime girl and say she's a ripoff of some Genshin character that looks nothing alike because apparently Genshin invented pink hair.
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>>735265636
Calm down Shin
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>>735262136
Genshin has much better character designs and better lore, two of the most important things when it comes to a gacha game. Yeah, the combat is faster and flashier with Wuwa but that appeal gets old after a few hours.
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>>735266145
90% of Genshin designs look AI generated, the only time Hoyo had good designs was 1.X ZZZ.
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>>735266221
but enough about wuwa
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>>735266221
The designs are really not good. I remember talking about the game before it released and trying to be like "I guess this character looks nice?" but I feel like the only ones that did were Paimon and Mona.
There's been more since I guess but most of them just look like cluttered piles of nothing. They need to take almost every design back to the drawing board and just start erasing because they clearly think slapping random bullshit everywhere to clog up real estate is how you make a design.
HSR is even worse
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>why is WoW still more popular than WoW clone #15
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>>735262136
Genshin captured the market at the opportune moment. Gachas are designed so you're discouraged from playing several at once unless you're SEA
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>>735262136
Completely sincerely, soul vs soulless.
>I'll make Genshin but with LENDARK SOULS combat and KMMO EFFECTS and UNREAL ENGINE GRAPHICS and all the girls will be in your HAREM
I tried it and it has zero artistic intent behind anything, it feels AI generated
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>>735268050
As if Genshin isn't just "BOTW but with ANIME GIRLS and GAMBLING", you people have no self awareness.
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>>735262136
Are people here too young to remember the glut of WOW killers, Halo killers and the like? Games trying to oust the market leader by doing the exact same thing (but with less content and no starting community) are never as successful.
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>>735266221
>1.X ZZZ
You mean pre BKE 3rd. You fags act like hoyo's designs haven't been shit for a long time.
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>>735268201
>BOTW
Now that's some vintage seething, I have to dig my folders for 2020 era copes
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>>735268432
>Knows he can't deny it because it's true
I accept your concession
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Genshin story (area 1)
>have to find sister so go to town to ask around
>attacked by a giant dragon
>have to work alongside the knights and a bard to save the region
>bard is a god
>find out dragon is under curse
>attack dragon and free it from curse
>day gets saved

VS

Wuthering Waves story (area 1)
>your drifting in space for some reason now your awake next to chang chang and chingi
>your special for some reason so the mayor of the city wants to speak with you
>mayor of city isnt there so her secretary hands you random junk and has you go on a scavenger hunt to gather clues to find the mayor because ???
>you ask kids about candy
>you head to a burned village and some scarman asks you to find diary entries so you can find lore about ???, he attacks you anyways
>your now ready to meet the mayor, but first you must enter her secret chamber and go through platforming puzzles with rising water levels and uhhh scarman arrives and fights you but mayor shows up and uhhh teehee all according to plan
>finds some black flower
>have to ask around town about the flowers origins for some fucking reason idk

If you go into both games unbiased and play for 2 hours each, its pretty obvious why people prefer one over the other. I legit gave wuwa a chance and that has to be the worst story ive ever experienced
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>>735268610
>Zelda invented shooting niggers
Why did Miyamoto do it?
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>>735268765
Yeah, the story in the first chapter of WuWa is fucking horrible. Writing gets much, much better by Rinascita though.
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>>735269021
>Genshin blatantly copies BOTW
>Genshinnigger: "Nope, don't see it, there's no similarities there whatsoever"
>Another gacha game has swords as a weapon you can use
>Genshinnigger: "I can't believe they would just rip off Genshin like that, Mihoyo should sue"
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>>735268765
The scarman part of the story was really the only interesting part
Then he gets arrested and castrated then I don't remember what the rest of the story was about
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>>735269191
And Wuwa is a blatant copy of Hoyo with a little Nier and Death Stranding sprinkled in for flavor.
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ultimately it's still just Genshin 1.5
I still enjoy it because it's just more Genshin.
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>>735262136
because in a soul vs graphics battle, the soul will always outlive it



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