He's crying because steam called his revenue gross
>nearly 3k refundsdamn
Funny.
>>735332226you are a disgusting retarded subhuman turd
>>735332226IS HE HAPPY OR SAD I DON'T GET IT
>>735332226I'm lost. Is he happy that he made about a year's worth of rent, or sad that he only made back a fraction of his budget?
>>735332226demagogy isn't funny
>>735332226For all those aspiring game devs out there, he only got these sales after Moist Critical played his game on stream. If you don't get majorly lucky like that you'll earn close to zero, and that's what happens 99.9% of the time.
he's sad because he just entered a new tax bracket
>>735332472>those are supposed to be good salesgrim
>>735332226Wow so brave
>>735332472what game?
>>735332569Tangy TD
>>735332226it's over
>>735332262lol
>>735332226Good for him. That's a decent down-payment on a house. He's lucky to have such a supportive wife too. This man is winning at life.
>>735332226>crying like that in front of his womanhe doesn't know it yet, but it's over for him
>>735332226I dont see a single tear though his eyes arent even red also lol this face
>>735332569I think it's https://store.steampowered.com/app/1922940/Respawn/ Given it says "The Respawn" on the screen.
>>735332262this post is too smart for /v/
Isn't posting your gross profit in public retarded since taxman will be breathing down on your neck?
>>735332638>posts game that isn't even out the stupidity of the average vee user is astounding
>>735332638>This game is not yet available on Steam>Coming soondamn imagine the money he'll make when it's actually available to buy
>>735332330>median time 59 minutesThat's pretty bad...
>>735332638
>>735332604>First review mentions this very video>and also had a blastI'll never understand autism games like Bloons but I admit swapping dirty monkeys for little girls is a good idea
>only 8 levelsOh no no noTo be fair, I can't get past the ice level, any tips guys? The boss just has too much hp
>>735332226zero tearsshitty actor
>>735332262kekfippy bippy
>>735332630exactly.
>>735332630As if the wife laughing at him was not enough to notice the fraud
new crying like a bitch meta just dropped lfg
>>735332226>wife>homeprivileged white boi crying he made some money on his own woopdidoo
>>735332226Some context missing from this is a few days prior he went viral on reddit for a video of him reacting similarly to $30,000 on launch day. The comments are full of people saying they’re not even interested in the game but they bought it to support the guy because they like him and his emotional response. Must be a weird feeling knowing a large portion of your sales are essentially charity and not out of any genuine interest or appreciation for the game.
>>735332932Most people have homes, wives, jobs, etc...I'm sorry you were born a minority, truly I am.
>>735332424>>735332409based autism chads
>>735332226>$245Smaller than corpowagies, but atleas its a honest work
so whats the game
>245KDamn thats just enough to become middleclass in a rural town, congrats to him!
>>735333127>only 14% unemployment Bros...
>makes a mid tower defense>goes viral for crying >gets more sales>makes another cry video for more salesI can't even be mad, this is a good grift
>>735332262heh
>>735332226Why his mom kissing him like that?
>>735332409Holy shit, my exact reaction, lmao. $200k is kinda not bad, right? IIRC he is from Germany, so that's like 3 years worth of median senior dev salary? Not sure how much taxes he has to pay (probably a lot like 30-50%, lol).
>>735332226Me when I'm constipated
>little bro makes a game with his friends>game goes viral on (legacy)media>?????>only made $200 profitIt would probably had done better if mainstream media hate it.
>>735332226Doesn't Steam ban showing your sale figures? Looks like he's going to cry again
>>735332226Holy shit, decades of work for just chump changesAnd /v/ said I should start making my own game
>>735332696He's german. The taxman gets notified every time your bank receives a transfer of more than 10k €.
>>735333684No, wtf
>>735332226Why is this guy so fucking shilled everywhere for weeks nowDid he pay a marketing firm?
>>735332226Wait, 600 reviews is 250k+ territory? I thought it'd be a tenth of that. Why am I not working on my game?
>>735332696Nowadays, tax office knows when you take a shit, they were notified long before he even knew
>>735332226>wife seeing him cryShe's going to divorce him
>>735333784Why is anyone buying this horse shit?Is it 3rd worlders? For the price of this you could get something good
>>735333946>tower defense>cute pixel art witch girlsWhat's wrong with it?
>>735333946it's 8 dollars you're brown if you think that's expensive
>>735333495I'm in a different tax class but my taxes and duties are about 40%...
>>735333946Third worldwers are the ones who give a shit about dropping 12 bucks. I literally make that in fifteen minutes at work. I've wasted more money than that on a vending machine before
>>735332262LLMAOOOOO
>>735333993For his asking price you could get 2 or even 3 better games which arent shit or made by a cuckHeroine anthem zero 1/2 Arcana heart 3Spirit of the samuraiBlazing chromeWhy waste money on garbage when good stuff is available
>>735332226This is so hecking wholesomrinokinopinobuying 20 thousand copies STAT, THIS IS A FACT!!!!All I hear is this faggot crying and not a single thing about the game, he made some pedo dogwhiste game? he should be investigated, seize his PC
The game is fucking shit though, I regret pirating it.
>>735333784there's cunny? I will now buy your game.
>>735332226White men are so fragile lmao
>>735332226Is that his wife? She's never going to see him as a man again. You can't even mourn your own mother in front of them.
>spend 4 years making a game engine and a game>stream the process every day on Twitch/Youtube>make a Youtube channel with videos/shorts on you reacting to things and giving game dev advice>make a Discord channel, build a community around your game>your community buys the game on launch just to support you, game goes to "new & trending" on Steam front page>email spam over 300 streamers/Youtubers to play your game>some big eceleb streamers play your game on stream>game goes viral>make quarter of a millionHe got lucky, your game will never make back the 100 dollarinos it costs to put it on Steam, don't leave your dayjob.
>>735334209There isnt. The retard is just screaming at his own delusion.
HUGE CUNCUNGAWDS W
>>735332708heh
>>735332226Look at the beak on that woman, she is even aware of it and tries to cover it up near the end of the video kek.
>>735334285i'll be the next tony fox
Looks like a cool game, cheap and has cunny too but>only 8 levelsNahWhy buy this when Bloons TD 6 has way more content and there isn't that much price difference?
>>735332472>>735334285People like to shit on aspiring indie devs saying "you'll never make money" but the answer is to just not make a shit indie game. Other youtubers have done this analysis but actually go and look at steam and try and find a diamond in the rough. They don't exist. For the most part games get the sale they deserve outside of legit 1 hit wonders like Lethal Company. Take Hollow Knight for example, people might say they got lucky to hit the zeitgeist but the game was quite clearly the best produced metroidvania on the market at the time and had mass appeal due to artstyle and ease of play early on.I challenge any anon to go out and find a goated game out there that simply didn't sell. It doesn't exist.
>>735334559>Looks like a cool game, cheap and has cunny too but>>only 8 levels>Nah>Why buy this when Bloons TD 6 has way more content and there isn't that much price difference?ibid.
>>735334563People always say this and then they play games called "Hot Dog Simulator" and "Alligatorman 3" because their favorite streamer played them ironically. Truth is that you could make the greatest game ever and no one would give a shit.
>>735332226Reminded me of this
>>735334682>then they play games called "Hot Dog Simulator" and "Alligatorman 3" because their favorite streamer played them ironicallyThese are the exceptions.>Truth is that you could make the greatest game ever and no one would give a shit.Legit impossible unless you did literally and I mean literally zero marketing, zero next fest, didn't even ask your mum for a review.
>>735334727>>then they play games called "Hot Dog Simulator" and "Alligatorman 3" because their favorite streamer played them ironically>These are the exceptions.there's dozens of these "exceptions"
>>7353345598 levels? that's it? must be a really short game
>>735333783That cuck Moistcritical made a wholesome chungus video playing his friend's game so reddit is wholesome excited to show support for their favourite streamer's friend too.
>>735332226>asian
WOW, 2 YEARS OF MEDIAN INCOME IN A NICE PLACE
>>735332262Lol eeeww lol icky eew
>>735332630Did he get the big succ!?
>>735332472thats why you bribe streamers to play your game
>>735332226>dev cries seeing salesAnother Concord, boys?
>>735334990Probably not because their kid is brown.
>>735334748>Anon has no idea about the quantity of games actually released
The game is calledTangy TD
>>735335051So he got to watch kekA CAUSE OF CELEBRATIONwife gets allowanceKid gets allowance Wife's boyfriend gets allowanceHappy happy joy joy
If I made a game and cried on /v/, would you guys give me pity sales?
>>735332932Why are you antiwhite anon?
>>735334563I think a legit issue is that the bar is increasing considering the sheer amount of releases we're getting all the time. I'm not sure a game like Cave Story would've ever gotten as popular as it did if it released nowadays.
>>735333784Who popularized this "pick 1 out of 3 random upgrades" bullshit again? I'm really tired of seeing it everywhere.
>>735335193only if you can get pokimane to call you her friend
>>735335206I think the bar is actually lowering considering that his game is shit
>>735332472Are you telling me when you're selling a product in a busy marketplace you have to have a bit of luck to get successful? I thought all businesses having giant neon advertisement signs was just them doing it for fun.
>>735332226>spends 3 years on gamedev>makes 3 yrs salary working a restaurant job Sad!
>>735335193If it had sovl, yes
>>735335206>I think a legit issue is that the bar is increasing considering the sheer amount of releases we're getting all the time.True but I also think people release a ton of slop that is just dogshit and subpar production quality has been normalised due to early access and indie titles. I don't think it takes much to rise above the rest in terms of production quality you just have to be willing to either produce your own art or pay a professional, same for music. Either that or have a genuine unique gimmick that you can market e.g. Vampire survivors.
>>735333229Read the fucking thread
>>735332262i chuckled
>>735335264I think it was Vampire Survivors, not sure since I avoid that genre and roguelites like the plague tho.
This is blackpilling for indie game devs, lol. Even if your game is wildly successful, like 1 in 10000 levels of luck, the best you can hope for is to make the same amount of money you'd make in a low level tech job. Grim.
>>735335537I have a dream game I want to make but my salary is 170k/yr and I want to hit retirement level wealth before I do something so financially unwise
>>735335537Good I hope more realize this so they won't release turds and we can finally have some quality again
>>735335537Just make stuff in your own time and actually invest/spend money on it so you get to a decent production level. Make a few releases over a few years so you end up with a nice back catalogue for passive income.
>>735332226When are devs gonna have a sense of dignity and leave the humiliation rituals behind? OP included.
>>735334563>I challenge any anon to go out and find a goated game out there that simply didn't sell.Fight Knight is honestly incredible and yet barely anyone knows about it.Even sadder some fucking Pizza Tower comic dub the dev uploaded on his channel had more views than all promo material for his game combined.Also "In Sound Mind".
>>735335772Is this the game you mean? To me this is a classic case of /v/ loving retro or pure gameplay. This game just doesn't have broad appeal and the artstyle doesn't lend itself to people thinking it's quality.
I'm ready to lie about spending years on making a a.i. gen game that was made on the spot so i can have a shitload of money. sign me up guys.
>>735332226Video games are a highly competitive market.
>>735334563Most legendary games/movies that are remembered fondly 30 years later didn't actually sell when they came out and the companies went bankrupt quickly after. Doing a lottery is a more sure way to get money than making a great film/game, it's all a big gamble.
>>735334563Metal Eden was a gigantic flop when it was a better Doom than the one released the same year and made by people who developed a successful indie game in the past (Ruiner).Ninja Gaiden 4 was a flop and would appeal to a market of "gameplay first" people that bought in mass Nioh 3 that released 6 months later.You never see a "goated" game that didn't sell because no one talks about it, that's it. Quality is a lesser factor for a game's succes compared to good marketing.
>>735333127>2012Unemployment has risen under Trump's second term and is predicted to continue rising.>>735334717>Can't understand the idea of companionshipThis right wing culture of "winning" over more relationships, family and tradition broke your brain huh.
>>735335409>>735335264Slay the spire had you picking 1 of 3 cards to add to your deck, and it was early access in 2017 and released in 2019. I think Nuclear Throne and Downwell from 2015 had pick 1 of 3 upgrades at the end of a level too, anyone know earlier?
>>735335993It's a dungeon crawler with an odd but good combat system and it has enough story bits imo.I don't see why it wouldn't have appeal considering pure gameplay indies also get popular like Pizza Tower, and it is relatively simple so it's not like people would get filtered en masse. Life unfortunately simply isn't as straight forward as good work = success.
>200k+ revenue>badI don't get it, is he happy or whatI might be autistic though>>735332262heh
>>735336404>Most legendary games/movies that are remembered fondly 30 years later didn't actually sell when they came outCite at least 5 examples, more if you can.
>>735336404>Most legendary games/movies that are remembered fondly 30 years later didn't actually sell when they came out and the companies went bankrupt quickly after.This is simply not true, you're just thinking of exceptions. I say this as someone who watches esoteric pretentious shit all the time. Most critically acclaimed films were massive successes for their time.>Doing a lottery is a more sure way to get money than making a great film/game, it's all a big gamble.I agree with this.>>735336592I'll give you Metal Eden, do you have more info about it's release. I have never heard of it so just looking at it now. Only thing I could say to be hypercritical is the artstyle looks 'rounded' compared to something that's grim like DOOM.NG4 is 'character action' and I think it's a limited market most normies only want to play DMC from that genre. Also a reboot in a series where there's a million different versions of the games so new people might not want to get into a series halfway through.Marketing is important but I genuinely don't think you can sell dogshit, it's only the exceptions that get streamer boosted that people remember.https://youtu.be/dOolIKL-pxo?si=YeVdRqZOFv8q9OhTThis vid is pretty deccent, I genuinely think you can make a modest side hustle income by making small scope focused indies and build up a back catalogue to earn you passive income whilst doing your 9-5. I'm still a big believer in quality first. Good look to any devs out there still chugging along with their project.
>>735332226Isn't that really good money though?
>>735333784That vid was from when he had around 300-ish reviews, which is about 1 review to 90 or 100 sales which is a figure that gets mentioned typically for steam games. Also, that money figure is before Valve takes their cut and before taxes. The net is just subtracting refunds.
>>735335663are those bots? why are they all talking like that?
>>735332226That woman is going to spend all the money in a month.
>>735337282At least you have more nuance than /v/aggots that will go "quality = sales".But if you start adding factors like "appeal", "genre", or "how to get into the series", then we lost the "just not make a shit [indie] game" point. The real issue isn't that making money with a bad game is guaranteed if the marketing is good, it's that you can make a good game and still fail.That's not even going into a ratio of "quality vs. sales" because then, a game like MO: Astray would have sold as much as Celeste, and Rabi-Ribi would crush Blasphemous numbers.>Marketing is important but I genuinely don't think you can sell dogshit, it's only the exceptions that get streamer boosted that people remember.I think so too, but success is an exception. Compare the number of video games released a year and look at how many sold gangbusters, we're at less than 1%. Supermarket Simulator has 79k reviews on Steam, how many good games released in 2025 have that much? It's not just exceptional in terms of "bad game that miraculously sold more than it should", it's exceptional in general.
>>735338142I've gotta go bro but nice chat. I do think that quality does include appeal, genre and production quality though, and for that reason I don't think Rabi-Ribi would ever do Blasphemous numbers. Blasphemous' aesthetic appeal is just too great.
>>735332226What an absolute faggot>>735332330I would also refund if I found out the dev was a total crybaby FAGGOT
>Spend 4 years making a game>Earn $250k from itSo he earned what he would have just working a normal job for four years
>>735338315Personally I'd be really happy to just make normal job money from a video game. Who the fuck gets into games thinking they're going to produce the next billion dollar indie title.
>>735332226>4 years of work for 50k/y revenue (before local taxes)>would have been way lower if it wasn't for ecelebs playing your gamewewlad. why would you even start working on indie games? If you're the 1% you'll earn about as much as your average eastern euro it workerFor the 0.0001% chance of your game being the next minecraft? Might as well go gambling
>>735337282>>735337208>Most critically acclaimed films were massive successes for their time.The Shawshank Redemption, Blade Runner, The Thing, Fight Club and Big Trouble in Little China were massive flops when they came out. Look at Troika's games, they didn't make any money when they came out, now they are classic RPGs that everyone loves. You can Google all of this you know.
>>735338381>tfw spaniard>earn 19k€/y before taxesjust fucking kill me
>>735336592Metal eden flopped because they charged 40$ for a 6 hour game while releasing the same week as silksong. NG4 flopped because it released on gamepass and charged 70$(DLC not included btw). Ultimately, price is the biggest factor for good games floppong, not "marketing"
>>735338445>The Shawshank Redemption, Blade Runner, The Thing, Fight Club and Big Trouble in Little China were massive flopsand i'm sure hollywood accounting played no role in that whatsoever
>>735338512It used to be fine since we didn't have blacks in europe but now its unjustifiable
>>735332262
>>735332226Why are women like this?
Man you guys are some bitter bitches. I cry from seeing beautiful things all the time. It would definitely be moving to know my art connected with other people like that. I'm happy for him even if I'll never play his game. It's not about the money, it's about seeing your work pay off and making something others appreciate
>>735332472All I have to do is make a good game and shill it on 4chan. If it's good it'll spread around, if it's bad I'll learn from my mistakes and try again.
>>735332262dude ok you know what
>>735338271I'm buying three copies just to spite you.
>>735335051>>735335124>ESLs have to fantasise about a perfectly happy white couple having a brown kid (which they don't) because their lives are that fucked up having to live in countries that are filled with no drinkable running water and people who shit on the street.
>>735339126>Hey lil donnie, guess what? I wasted some of my own money! How do you like them apples, huh!? Bet you feel really spited now!
>Crying on cameraDo americans really?
>>735338315and? What's wrong with that? Not every game needs to be a big hit that lets you run away with millions of dollars. He did something he actually enjoys an owns himself and built a living off of it.
>>735334563Path of Exile 1 took SEVERAL years to become popular. It's genre-defining now, but back in the day it was considered some "random" game compared to D3.
>>735334563>WorldsOne of ny favourite games. It has just now been picked up by some ecelebs, which has gotten it a few sales, but it sat on 10~ reviews for many years.
>>735339243he's german
>>735339197Oh no the trumpanzee is having a meltie/ Hahaha.
>>735334563among us is a classic example of a dead game suddenly becoming insanely popular only thanks to circumstance and streamers. but thinking cream rises to the top is a bit like assuming the president will be the smartest, best person in the country. it might happen, but quality is only one attribute of many.
>>735339243its becoming an increasingly common marketing tactic, posting the sad dude in his empty shop or the lady with no one going to her book signing. its extremely effective on normies
>>735339194>perfectly happy white couple having a brown kid (which they don't)Zoey can be seen on his stream occasionally, she is definitely brownish, just like his wife. His wife seems to speak fluent germany but I don't know where she originates from.
>>735335193are you cute in a dress?
>>735332396>you are a disgusting retarded subhuman turd???what did Op do to trigger him?
>>735339442So he's only getting $20k of that $250k then. Gotta pay the Government Goons for the privilege of making money, after all.
>>735337132He's happy
>>735340357That money belongs to Israel.And the Syrians with fours wives and rapists sons.He's happy to pay.
That'll be 60% tax thank you.
>>735332226What's the game? If it's some 30 minute walking sim, then it shouldn't be surprising.>>735332262#SHOTSFIRED
>>73534075730% steam tax30% USA tax40% EU taxhe should get around 30 cents on the dollar in his bank account
>>735340116Whythefuckdoyoucare
>>735340357Those muslims and african rapist "refugees" aren't going to pay for themselves, of course.
>>735340860Literally the 13th post in the thread
>>735332409>>735332424I don't get it either, I'm inclined to think he's happy if he's an indie dev.200k is good fucking money if it's just a hobby project that you spend like a year of your spare time on.
>>735332226It's got to be very cathartic seeing an idea you had come together into reality, and then see financial success. Good for him. Hopefully I have similar fortune. Be inspired, don't be a bucket crab.
>recent breakout indie hits are vibe coded vampire survivors and vibe coded kingdom rushsoftware is genuinely dead, its happening in SaaS as well, teams of indians cloning existing products and undercutting
>>735338381Hater bitch.
>>735341248200K for ~4 years of full-time work is minimum wage
>>735332472You make games because you love making games. If you're only in it for the money you're in the wrong "business" and are ngmi.
>>735341248except he spent 4 years on this. 50k/y ain't much unless your alternative is minimum wage slopjobs
>>735333784only 3-5% of users write reviews, it's like that with every game, unless you have seething gooks that have their bug feelings hurt
>>735341380Plenty of people out there would kill to make that kind of money, let alone doing a job working at home, doing something that they're passionate about. Fulfilling, and makes a living from it. Every party has a pooper, dude, and that's you.
>>735332262:(
>>735341359>>735341380well no one told him to quit his job, he could and should have worked on it in his spare time.or just get on neetbux while you work. I'm a neet and I only get 18k a year from the gubment so an additional 50k would be tremendous. too bad I'm an unproductive bum lol
>>735341248>>735341359>>735341380That's not bad at all considering the game will continue to sell for years. And now he can create a fanbase and create sequels.
>>735333784>$250k>VAT/Sales Tax: -50k>Valve cut: -60k>Income tax + payroll etc: -60k>Remaining: $80kFor 4 years of work.If you ever wonder why game developers will use AI, this is why.
>>735341629>Plenty of people out there would kill to make that kind of moneyoutside the 1st world, probably>let alone doing a job working at homewhere have you been the last 6 years? Pretty much all jobs were you spend 99% of the time in front of a laptop screen are WFH now exclusively.>doing something that they're passionate about.This is more of a personal preference, but I'd rather keep my passions for my free time. I want work to be something I can detach from and just do without worry
Kill all normalniggers, and women too.
>>735341359It's 6 or 7 years of decent pay, 13 years of minimum wage
>>735339392Because it was some random game, it took them years of polishing the turd for people to start appreciate it.In fact just few years before POE2 was announced people were still recommending Grim Dawn over it and that game is just mid.
>>735332626Underappreciated post
>>735335772Fight knight was unfortunately sabotaged out the starting gate by crazy bitch dramaI played it enough to fi ish new game plus
>>735332226his discord astroturfed reddit and i wish to learn the technique
>>735333717>germanoof, that's 50% gone at baseline
>>735338315What job do you think nets you 60k a year?
>>735342060I was going to say programmer, but im pretty sure even IT help desk can clear 60k
>>735339243Old sociopath manipulation getting revivedAverage modern normalfag has an overly active sense of empathy and no wit to even think that someone is faking shit. There is no pause for thought its just instant emotional reaction
The funniest thing is, since his income is all technically in one year he's going to hit the highest tax bracket even though on a yearly basis it would be much lower
>>735341090Why wouldn't I care?
>>735334682shit games may sell more than they deserve, good games usually sell what they deserve
>>735339243Hey as long as it works.
>>735339652>but thinking cream rises to the top is a bit like assuming the president will be the smartest, best person in the countryNot quite, buying something has the restriction that only people with money can do it and at a minimum any sight or review will tell its true character. Elected officials are retarded because universal suffrage is retarded since most people are fucking retarded with zero interest in preserving the nation.
>>735332226>Median time played 59 minutes
>>735332409Happy. In the full video he's amazed and his wife/gf hugs and congratulates him.
>>735332626girls genuinely like nerds that cry. It's only when manly men cry that they feel disgusted.It's because manly men are 99/100 times a projection of what they were forced to be, and these are the same people that treat weak men as well as women like shit. So when a woman marries that kind of man, it's because they are there for the idea, not the man. With weak men, they know who they are from the beginning and only need just enough charm not to be sickened.
>>735335772>>735335993over 1000 reviews, it got the audience it deserved. it is not hollow knight or undertale
>>735332330yeah a 10% refund rate is pretty bad.
>>73534240910% is average
>>735342195Now, as a germ especially, do you think he'd actually get it instead of whatever local brownoid flavor for 35k a year? He could just as easily get stuck in some shitty, dead end, minimum wage trap that would take a decade to make that
>>735332472or you learn how to market a game or pay for it to be marketed. product creation is only one part of any business. a steam page is worthless if no one knows. you don't get lucky, you get good at business.
>>735332226Gay. Indie devs deserve to suffer.
>>735334563You're right, bit missing the point. The problem is GOAT games do sell, when they're good and polished. There ARE fun games out there that by virtue of being original, poorly advertised or lacking in just ONE regard (like graphical polish) are ignored and buried in sales despite getting a small loyal following. The lesson is your game needs polish more than ever. It being fun isn't enough. Not only that, it needs a marketing hook too. You can't ever focus on gameplay as a dev
>>735335264Yeah, it's a shitty trend. You feel the game is undercutting you and gating your builds to rng. Roguelites do this. Even mewgenics. I don't play these games anymore, they're addiction machines. I will play 10 times to get 1 great playthrough, mehhh
>>735342603lmao
>>735341759This is why as solo dev you should start a small company and pay yourself a salary, the money earned are company assets, so you can instantly reinvest them and on paper you're still losing money, now instead paying taxes you get a tax break. If you fuck up bankrupting a company is also better path than losing your own financial stability and banks are more lenient toward company credit because your loan is backed by company's assets.You also have a chink model where earning $100k allow you to take a 1mln loan, then the company pay their contractor and fill for bankruptcy, the contractor now have 1mln worth of assets they use to take 10mln loan and make a A-AA title, every chink game you hear off was kickstarted like this.
>>735334563The Astlibra dev didn't make enough to leave his salaryman job.
>>735333784>little girlWell there you go.
>>735335115>>735332604Ok i need Tangy porn now
>>735333784This. >>735343071
>>735336404It's not a lottery if you know what you're doing, which most devs don't. Selling a game is like selling dish soap in a world with plenty of dish soaps. You think YOUR dish soap is special, but to a housewife strapped for time, it needs to glow like it's radioactive and be on discount to even register among the rest. But you think that it cleaning grease 10% better when you clean under natural daylight is a great feature... That only 5 people will ever care about. It's why games always try to get a "wider audience" and fail too. They obsess with marketing and make a dish soap diluted, expensive, and ugly-looking because the ad people are now making product design decisions and trying to stand out first, when there's nothing outstanding in the actual game.So as an indie dev you're fighting against all sort of complex dynamics in your own brain and the audience, so success send lighting in a bottle. It's not, learn from people who consistently delivery successes. They figured it out.
Lotta jews ITT
>>735343164Sold over a million a good while ago. It's no wonder the japanese are throwing themselves onto steam.
>>735332226I want to feel bad for him but>He's probably a woke retard>He decided to put it all on shitting on a pile of shit (releasing an indie game on fucking steam, an oversaturated market)
>>735343243bait or retarded?
>>735343242Yeah they have to make as much money as possible before the payment processors ban the entire country
>>735332604ohi was going to get this because it looked cute and funny but now i dont want to
>>735343164POWER OF LOLI
>>735333495I'm in goymany and barely make 30k a year
>>735332262You're too good for this board.
>>735333717Can't you make a company in those tax haven and then pay yourself a salary with your game earnings so you stay in a lower tax bracket or is that illegal
>>735333717This is where you transfer funds slowly so the taxmen never notice
>>735334285>this amount of cocksucking for 25k salesI'd rather make my game free
>>735334093But none of those are tower defense games with cute little girls, and I've already played through Relic Guardian.
>>735344318most do actuallyitch.io and stuff like Helltaker
>>735332472yup.This goes with everything. app development, web app development, physical product business.You have to get carried or get wildly lucky.
That game? Euro bottlecap simulator 2026
>>735344147The bigger the money the less illegal it is.
>>735344603HANS, GET THE STEAM CARDWE MUST PLAY, JA
>>735342603Based Russnigger doing God's work
>>735332226At those figures? He should just respawn in real life. AHAHAHAHAHAHA~
>>735332226>most people play for an hourwhat slop game is it
>crying over moneyI hate normalfag so fucking much
>>735345138Tower Defense roguelike choose 1 / 3 upgrades per level up slop :)
>>735345250I guess sub 10 dollars is the sweet spot for people to not mass refund your bad game if they can last more than 5 minutes but not more than 60
>>735341759or maybe don't live in a country where you're constantly being raped by taxes?
>>735332226Good for that dev but I wish this was a shit game with 2 sales or something. This is a happy video and I am not entertained. I need to see cope posts like the ones from reddit devs during the steam next fest
I'm going to poke toads instead, tired of this shit.
>>735332226after tax there is what, like 130k left?Possibly have to pay for assets, engine and other tools and be generous, say 100k. Like 2 years worth of income (1 if you live in california)If he is a full time dev he has to recreate this success every 1-2 years
THE Lesson IS CUTE GIRLS SELL
>>735345742its only been out for a few days. probably be respectable passive income for a long time
>>735345742yeah but it’s better than making just 30 dollars.
>>735345725is this a Vampire survivor td?
>>735332226Why do people put personal moments like this online
>>735346427for attention and cloutalso his games will sell more
>>735332226one of the selling point of this game was that he wrote his own engine in c++ and twitter brogrammers bought this game en-masse, and one of the guys who kind of made it popular was primeagen, and generally lot of popular programming influencers were shilling it,its kind of a new thing and a new market of sort usually people pick established streamers who are already popular in game space but the thing is those streamers have become too popular with all of the indie devs, they themselves recommend like 100 games and their audience is usually left to choose by themselves again, he as a clever marketing tactic chose streamers with as big audience but usually those who don't recommend game at all, so a huge part of those streamer audience (the programmer, and other computer development related streamers) bought it since it was cheap anyway,
>>735346427it's literal marketing
>>735332626Brutal trvke
>>735345451name 1
>>735346427oh you sweet summer child...you call it a "personal moment" when in reality that guy is a psychopath and it's all theater for clout
>>735345725doesn't look too bad, i wonder if any of the sprites are ai generated albeit
>>735338381at least he's getting payed for something he's passionate about instead of some soul sucking wagie office job.
>>735346976ireland, georgia, uae
>>735347019Considering the characters and ability icons look one way, I feel like the environments are asset pack/ai
>>735332472Dman so he only got rich after a man with millions of loyal fans decided to put it on his platform.
>>735345725why can't anyone make real tds like back in wc3there isn't a single fucking good standalone td
Sometimes there’ll be a thread that reminds me how much of this website is actually autistic.
>>735332226Faggot is literally crying to beg for pity sales. People that fall for this disingenuous manipulative bullshit deserve it. Fuck this guy.
>>735332226> crying like a humongous faggot> on stream no less, for all the world to seeHis wife is soon gonna divorce his ass and take half his shit.
>>735347707fr frnot tiktok posers hereonly actual irl autism
>>735342603:(
>>735332472>For all those aspiring game devs out there, he only got these sales after Moist Critical played his game on stream. If you don't get majorly lucky like that you'll earn close to zero, and that's what happens 99.9% of the time.>>735334285>He got lucky, your game will never make back the 100 dollarinos it costs to put it on Steam, don't leave your dayjob>>735335537>This is blackpilling for indie game devs, lol. Even if your game is wildly successful, like 1 in 10000 levels of luck, the best you can hope for is to make the same amount of money you'd make in a low level tech job. Grim.>>735336404>Doing a lottery is a more sure way to get money than making a great film/game, it's all a big gamble.>>735338315>So he earned what he would have just working a normal job for four years
>Indie sloplol die
>>735348143There are over 100 games released on steam everyday.
>>735334995Most Devs do this now and it doesn't work most of the time.
only a fucking /v/tard steamie could still say "good games always sell and rise to the top" in a thread about a shitty tower defense game that got popular thanks to going viral on social media
>>735348943game looks good tho
>>735334995>bribeit's called marketing sweatie
>>735334563That's absolute nonsense. most people just follow the herd and buy whatever's trendy and popular at the moment. A game's quality is not what decides its market performance. There's a reason devs spend just as much on marketing as actual development, sometimes more on marketing than dev time/resources.>I challenge any anon to go out and find a goated game out there that simply didn't sell. It doesn't exist.You would just say it sucks. You are wrong and I will break your fucking legs if you open your mouth again.
>>735333784Rule of media engagement is 2%, so his review count is just above the average judging by the sales numbers in his crying video.
>>735343165>learn from people who consistently delivery successesI don't think people like that exist.
>>735345250>>735345725What's wrong with "choose 1/3 items"? I'm making one right now and I'm genuinely confused.
>>735349465>toby fox
>>735332226His game looks like an asset swap, also 4 years to do some what looks like a basic tower defense is a lot of time. He should be happy with his $200.000+ in revenue. His mistake was not releasing a game a year instead of waiting 4 years. Basic egg basket situation.
>>735332409He's sad that it doesn't even cover his student loans.
>>735349751>student loans
>>735332262fpbp
>>735349673What is there to learn from Toby Fox? If you make pretentious games with quirky Reddit humor you'll become a millionare?
>>735341359minimum wage is fine by me if I'm not actually "working"He's making a video game, I imagine one he's passionate about. Not flipping burgers.That is to say he'd be at home making the game regardless if he had the option, but in this case he gets a wage for it.Not a bad scenario to be in at all in my opinion. I would rather be in that position myself than my own.
>>735332262Best post in the entire board
>>735349793I can smell the seething jealousy pouring out of you.
>>735333784The majority of the internet and world is silent the majority of the time.
>>735349891You didn't answer the question.
>>735349793yesok i was obviously baiting, but edmund is a good examplethat guy's been making video games since the early 2000, and even after isaac, some like the nigh is end and the legend of bumbo weren't exactly hits
>>735349793Yes, unironically.
>>735334285being born in the right place at the right time is luck, doing all that bullshit and then succeeding isn't luckthere's a bunch of devs who skip every single one of those steps, release their game on steam with no marketing and then cry to reddit that their game got buried by 100+ games that released the same day
>>735349985>pretentious games with quirky Reddit humorDisingenuous cunt, SEETHE, SEETHE
>>735332472It's still cool to make something by yourself and if it's something you're passionate about, then the reward is the personal achievement and fact that you made something that will outlive you. I understand browns have no concept of time or achievement, but it's pretty cool to leave a lasting impact on the earth, even in a small way.
>>735350072Which part of that was disingenuous? You still didn't answer my question.
>>7353322626/10 brown joke
>>735350157>dis nigga still responding
>>735350219Shut the fuck up, you worthless sub-human nigger.
>>735332226Whats was his game? i bet it was some shitty metroidvania or dark souls clone. Perhaps even a roguelite Although that's usually guaranteed money so it must have been shit on top of not being original.
He is live right now:https://www.twitch.tv/cakez77
Why? He got 250k$, thats a solid income even for california, and he is not a wagie as a bonus.
>>735342603wew lad
>>735350365it's a pixel tower defense game >>735333784
>>735334951Heh thanks
>>735334563Redline Crooks was my goty of 2024 but hardly anyone knew it existed and within its target demographic (Vlambeer enjoyers) there was never any "influencer" who was still around 10 years later that would have made it reach outside of its small bubble.Same dev's next game was based on an existing IP (2hu) and it found significantly more success in the span of a week.Getting picked up by the internet common concisousness is a fucking gamble and an original IP lives and dies by how visually appealing its characters/setting are. Look at something like Pseudoregalia that got attention in a fairly crowded genre by combining movement tech and thick thighs.
>>735332604Oh wtf, I randomly bought this because steam had their td sale, and I was in the mood for a chill td.
>>735350556>pixelshitOh that's classic it already meets the generic checkboxes on that field alone for trend chasing poser indie devs. Tower defense is also pretty by the numbers and playing it close to your chest too. Nothing really risky.
>>735350667>vlambeerthat the nuclear throne guy?
>>735342376Or perhaps there are some women that are kind and good and have a soul and aren't evil whores
Total Indie DEATH
Characters as towers is a kino TD tropeThis was my jam back when it was a flash game:https://store.steampowered.com/app/218410/Defenders_Quest_Valley_of_the_Forgotten_DX_edition/
>>735341759How about having an actual plan and make something that is fun to play instead of wasting a lot of money in trash just because you have an ego like most game developers. AI is not magic...
>>735332604Oh I had that wishlisted. Maybe me buy.
>>735350759>pixelshit>trend chasingretard, pixels is just easiest to make with one person
>>735350868>Look, Tomar, it's you
>>735350469After the reaction webm I wanted to hate this nigga but watching 5 minutes of his twitch stream he seems like an alright bloke.
>>735332262Fippy bippy
>>735332226>No tears>Eyes perfectly fineFake fucker
>>735350846
>>735333784>Tuoohwer Defense
>>735350846yes, that was my mommy ;)
>>735334563Correct. Hidden gems don't exist on Steam.
>>735351006Game developers used to build their own whole goddamn engines and programmers not even experienced in the field of modeling would be forced to model their own assets too on shoestring budgets back in the pre early access scam crowdfunding projects released onto the steam store days. Like back in 2000-2008-09Today the modern indie developer is a hack job. Every single indie dev is a poor excuse of a game developer and there are no exceptions to this rule. Pixelshitters are lazy incompetent buffoon. The lowest of the low. Especially for exploiting faux/pseudo nostalgia.
>>735334563Wild 9 was a flop and it still fucking rocks. Only people weebs with shit taste dislike it.
>>735334563NOOOOO MY GAME IS PERFECT, THE PEOPLE ARE WROOONG NOT MEE
>>735350769Vlambeer made more than just Nuclear Throne but they had disbanded. Only recently did Vlambeer emerge from the grave as just JW without Rami.RC was influenced by Vlambeer's body of work (not just NT). But not a single Nuclear Throne streamer/youtuber covered it. And its not like the dev was some literal noname, he was one of the guys helming the thronebutt daily leaderboard for NT.I love the game to death and think it deserved more recognition at least within that sphere of NT fans, but I am still immensely satisfied that I found a game that feels tailor made for me specifically since it checks a lot of my boxes for what I personally enjoy.
>>735332330>buy unity game on steam>refund it>move the install folder>play it for free
>>735332262silly! funny! fpbp
>>735351525>We used to sharpen rocks into spearsShut up, grandad. Not everyone has to go through the same hardships as the past.
>>735334563>hollow knight is good>just a shitty Newgrounds flash tier game like Alien Hominid repackaged for home consolesYou will never be real developers. Bingbing side scroll slop was supposed to end after the mid 90s when technological breakthroughs were happening. The fact that you're fixated on it as a development model is proof that you could never go toe to toe with the real gaming industry.
>>735352190>he can't make a stone spearNGMI
>>735352684poor quality bait0/10, apply yourself
>>735333784literally less than 3% of people that buy a game leave a review, in a lot of cases it's even less than 1%.only time there's an exception is when the game gets review bombed.
>>735352897>baitI'm dead serious. You make shockwave player games. The quality is on par with Newgrounds. Not to ever be taken seriously.
>245k dollariduses from a side pet projectIs this supposed to be bad? Is this bait?
>>735353048>not baitthen you're retarded.I don't even like hollow knight, silksong absolutely mogged 95% of AAA releases
>>735353089those are tears of joy and relief anon...are you autistic?
>>735332262Good post.
>>735335193no because you post anime shit so you're likely an extremely ugly overweight smelly oily balding loser with terrible tastes in mostly everything
>>735342383It is much better than any of the fotm dogshit that gets peddled here.
>>735353227>are you autistic?Many such cases
>>735350517I was confused too then I realized we're autistic and couldn't figure out he was happy
>>735335264gypsy ladies at carnivals
>>735332226Why did he film this? To get internet pity points? Like? Why film this otherwise?
>>735353145>mogged 95% of AAA releasesIn your delusional mind perhaps flash tier games are revitalizing the game industry. But in fact they are just a festering wound on it's rotting corpse.Hollow Knight is certainly bad but it only looks good in perspective because the industry is in such a poor state and not a healthy organism as it stands.
>>735350881noooooooooo I NEED to spend 14 years making another cookie cutter game with the exact same mechanics that 9953895238952 other games already provide to their players and then I'll cry on camera when my unbelievably mediocre game doesn't pull huge numbers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11indie devs really think they can make a living making art while having 0 talent or cretivityimagine an artist just copying someone elses painting but at an 7th grader level and then expecting big bucks from itindie devs, man... they're hilarious
>>735332226Brother made a rancid game. I'll make on too but I try not to cry when it flippedy flops.
>>735353645>Why did he film this?See >>735342296and read the reviews.
>>735341908>Because it was some random game, it took them years of polishing the turd for people to start appreciate it.That's not true though. If you go back to the very early days of PoE 1 you'll find people like TotalBiscuit glazing it. You'll also find that the top D3 player (Kripp) was glazing it too and playing it nonstop.Yeah, there were problems with the game (mainly desync), but the roots were the same as they are now. The game became popular well before the more modern changes were made to the game.>In fact just few years before POE2 was announced people were still recommending Grim Dawn over it and that game is just mid.PoE 1 hasn't changed much since Grim Dawn released.
>>735341359That's assuming the game doesn't sell any more copies.
>>735353646poor quality bait0/10, apply yourself
unironically if i dont make a quarter mil on my game (havent started yet!) im shooting myself
>>735346427He streams.
>>735350881When a game like PoE 1 takes over 5 years before people notice it (and continued playing D3 instead) it's obvious that making a good game doesn't matter. You've got to get lucky and get noticed to have any chance of success. This means that the name of the game is to cut costs as much as you can.PoE1 was a better game than D4 even, yet D4 still blew up in popularity.
>>735332604This looks pretty sick for a TD.
>>735354013It literally started it's life as a Newgrounds game and you're pretending that I'm wrong that it wasn't the shockwave garbage i played in my high school computer labs. The kind of shit i forgot about after graduation. Hollow Knight/Silksong is fucking TERRIBLE and you are not real game developers, just hackjob flash devs.
>>735354303It looks like what I would expect from a Tower Defense game, but rarely get. For some reason most TD games are just shit.
>>735350846yes. Kind women know not to wed with a man that is a projection of a person. That's why crying nerds win
>everyone saying it's just because Critikal played itThe dude's reaction to his game making like 30k after 24 hours is what made it go viral in the first place. It's why Critikal checked it out.He also launched a tower defense game during Steam's TD Fest so it was featured on there front and center with an eye catching art style (read: cute grill) and a low price so the early success shouldn't be that surprising.So it's not just about getting a streamer to play your game, it's about being a streamer yourself and getting your clips onto LSF.
>>735339473To make an analogy hes mocking you for shitting your pants. Im not that anon before your unwell ass responds.
No one will remember it
>>735347649Because you need to actually balance your game if you want a somewhat linear progression WC3 style TD, and WC3 custom games were already unbalanced as fuck.With roguelite "pick 1 out of 3" shit you can just slap whatever onto your game and call it a day, if the shit doesn't work you call it a bad run, and eventually you get some good cards combination anyway.
>>735354402>>735354013
>>735353145nta but these artsy fartsy flash looking games suck shit and I'll never play them and you're not cool for playing them either. Checkmate.
>>735353089It proves that gaming is a dogshit industry to work in. Spend 4 years making a game then strike the absolute luck of having a famous streamer cover your game only to get a year of rent/food/heating in return. Flipping burgers for minimum wage is better than being an extremely popular indie dev, that's how bad it is.
>>735355363That's great anon, I don't care. They are playing with the big boys (and winning) whether you like them or not.
>>735355480250k is roughly equivalent to 10 years of minimum wage 40hr/week
>I don't like it so it's not a success lmao
I need a hug
>>735332226roastie got herself a rich nerd and gonna waste all that money on Balenciaga and Lui Viton
>>735332424>year's worth of rentIf those are American dollars then he made 10 years worth of rent.No one should be paying more than 2k a month for rent.
372 posts of seethewhy?
>>735354504What game even was it?
>>735356182Tangy TD
>>735332226Good for him, his wife seemed very proud.
>>735332630" I can finally divorce this cuck nerd!"the face says it all...
>>735356182Read the fucking thread
Just wait until this lesbian goddess launches her game.
>>735356372only on 4chan will you see anons instantly think about cucking during moments of joy
>>735356576That just how the female brain works bro...
>>735332262all me btw
>>735356576Yeah that's when you reached enlightenment.
>>735356457no way fag
>>735356526>all this to create a statemachine instead of using bitwise comparisons on a nibble
>>735332262Funny
>>735332630It's crocodile tears for sympathy points to try and scam more fucks out of their money rather than a game being good
>>735332226Are these happy tears or sad tearsI'd be pretty happy if I made that much money from a game
>>735354128Making a fun game does matter a lot, retard. Luck can be a factor if you have a shitty marketing plan but your game being actually enjoyable is something you can rely on when people actually try it so it is really important. You are literally proving the point with PoE btw
>>735356526what language is this?
>>735357808i think it's clojure
>>735357370>You are literally proving the point with PoE btwAnd if the studio didn't have money to keep going for 10 years? They would've stopped and the popular years of the game (or the second one) wouldn't have happened.
>>735356919retard
>>735357340>I'd be pretty happymaybe that's a clue to this mystery
Pain
>>735332472That's enough money for one dev's salary for a year.If he's not releasing new games each year each selling as much he can't stay in the business.
>>735332226I am familiar with the performative crying vids from females on tiktok reacting to depression books and schlic picsThats a dude right?
>>735361298newfag>im familiar with tiktokcringe newfag
steam took 30% cut
>>735361882Gabe needs a new yatch sorry
>>735332226this is why i pirate, so that devs dont get sad seeing the money hit their bank accounts
>>735332262hehe
>>735332262>post snarky middle schooler word play>underages expose themselves instantly
>>735332262Hello based police?Yeah, he's loose again.
>>735362809Underage doesnt understand word play. They are too busy inventing new words. You can susly keep malding ong ong on god bussin.
>>735332226>>735332262L plus bald plus ratio Fpbp
>>735363575Maybe you were home schooled but every fucking stupid kid in my class rooms made jokes like that where they use words in literal way and think they are being smart and funny. Sorry you are socially stunted and retarded enough to be impressed by the word "gross"
>>735332532THE SALES ARE IN THE VID YOU DUMB FUCK. HOW CAN THIS VID MADE HIM THE SALES WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING DUUUUUMBBBB
>>735363756Well, I'm going to SKIP the next nep game. How about that?
>>735334563>I challenge any anon to go out and find a goated game out there that simply didn't sell. It doesn't exist.Didn't Chrono Trigger underperform? And everyone sucks that game's dick.
>>735349751He's German, they don't have student loans.
>>735335993By what measure is broad appeal equivalent to quality?
>>735341707if he worked on it in his spare time it would have taken 20 years
>>735364134NTA but broad appeal indicates that people see value in it even if nobody can put it into words.
>>735361882Before that the government took a 20% cut in VAT. Afterwards the government takes another 40% cut in regular taxes.
>>735364165maybe he should work a little harder
197k (200k) for 4 years of deving on twitch?pretty neat considering he was probably getting a lot of donos at that time too i guess
>>735332262What the fuck man why would Gaben do that?
>>735354567If spending roughly a quarter of $100 is equivalent to pants shitting to you then I feel sorry for you and your cheap ahh pants. Not that other guy either:^)
>>735368647I AM THAT ANON, GO TO THE BATHROOM. NOW.
I can't stand performative performances
>>735332262Good one.
>>735332226Good for him, what game?
>>735336805Yo nigga hook me up with your "companion's" number. I know your cuck ass lets her fuck whoever she wants.
>>735334563I have an example but it's still in early access so I'm not posting it91% positive with 250 reviews
Lol I thought it was going to be a hot asian bitch
>>735349739>4 years to do some what looks like a basic tower defense is a lot of timehe was working a full time job the whole time, plus other life stuffnot everyone has rich parents or a lovely wife paying the bills so they can work on their passion project full time
WHAT FUCKING GAME?!
>>735332472Cope. Streamers barely increase game sales. Stop giving these niggers so much credit.
>>735332262I... I don't get it.
>>735371036Streamers literally dictate what kind of games the vast majority of people consume these days.
>>735372286So delusional.
>>735332226>wahhh I played the lottery and didn't win
>>735371036You're over 30, aren't you? Streamers are zoomers' gods.
>>735338381Truth. At this point the only people who should be indie devs are those that are happy to do it for free as a hobby.
>>735338381Because you were told you can do anything if you put your mind to it and actually believed it so you think your game is gonna be the next Minecraft.
>>735373196The other day some anon developer was comparing about how he wasted money paying streamers. Got 50 thousands views and barely any sales.
>>735373242If you make vidya and cant even enjoy your own work what the fuck are you even doing with your life?It'd be like being a chef but not liking your own food. Getting sick of it is one thing but straight up not enjoying the creative process means its not for you.If you can take pride in your work thats all you really need, but dont quit your dayjob in this economy.
>>735332226>we started posting tiktok threadsit's as if twitter wasn't bad enough. what's next facebook?
>>735372645who is deciding then? are you searching the internet for unbiased game reviews and content and pretending you aren't being influenced by who you follow on social media whether it be youtube twitch or whatever? ok you are autistic and don't get social norms, but to everybody else, they consume media to get influenced by other people and streamers have proven they are valuable to sales or else after the first few game sponsorships that went bad they would stop paying, but streamers are getting paid to play games to influence sales literally every day
lol what a pussy faggot
Man I feel sad
>>735332262Is the joke that Steam called it gross and it's also gross profit so it's a double entendre? Because if so, I really don't think this is funny enough to warrant all these (You)'s.I guess if you watch the webm it becomes chuckle worthy but the joke in isolation is pretty mediocre.
>>735332226>completely wholesome>autistic retards start screechingthis is almost as funny as those "gamer cringe" threads where you post photos of 7 year olds and their gamer themed birthdays where the dorks come in and get mad at you for making fun of 7 year olds. almost.
>>735334563Stephen's sausage roll.Though I think that's mostly self inflicted given the one statement description.
>>735332424He said 250K after his cut so those are tears of "I no longer need a mortgage"
>>735332262lmoa
I tried and failed miserably. The lesson is: keep trying, the next one will do better
>>735376535>sell game>people buy it>bro you NEED to stream yourself crying on tiktok about this!Fembrained retard.
>>735332626and on camera, not even caught, he's filming himself
>>735335382all replies suck ass
>>735334563Honestly it depends on how well you test it.I’m open to criticism, but only if it serves the purpose of making the game as good as possible.Not “NGMI” garbage that never explains what’s wrong and sets up arbitrary rules.
>>735377058What's your game? Maybe I'll check it out.
>>735332424He is eastern European, so that is like winning 1 million for you Americans
>>735377694It's not visually pleasing, fair warning, my 3d modelling skills aren't there yet. When The Road Darkens, I'm working on 4 new bosses. Also have 2d side project going but my artist collab quit so the demo will be massively delayed, can't find anyone decent wanting to do rev share, which is fair.
>>735357808a pretentious ngmi one
Do you have a better chance of success if you're an artist or musician that has some amount of followers already?
>>735378110Doesn't really look like my cup of tea, but I wish you all the best. I always like seeing anons making their own video games.
>>735364736Not what I asked.
>>735332472Yes, this is what we need. More discouragement from randos on the internet telling indie devs not to even bother trying. Yeah, just completely give up on making the game you want, what's the point anyways? Why even try when you could just give into self doubt and naysayers and fall right back into the crab bucket with all of the people who don't want to see you have any achievements or anything you're proud of?
>>735378761Yes.
>>735332509>solo dev>initial week earnings>will make money continually
>>735361882my gf greeted me in a similar outfit recently when she turned, lets hope i hit the mark need a young mom wife.
>>735332626Deserved. I aint ever seen an incel make it big on indie game dev they all got bitches.
>>735373820>who you follow on social media whether it be youtube twitch lol
>>735334563>They don't exist. For the most part games get the sale they deserve outside of legit 1 hit wonders like Lethal Company. I'd argue that Lethal Company brought what the market needed without realizing it. A lot of people shit on for being a streamer game, but it got so hyped because thats what the market wanted.>modern dungeon crawler>local coop with friends>spooky game that stays spooky after hours of playing it>can play over and over with friends>can join randoms and have funLethal Company was a better dungeon crawler than starflop and BG3. It broke the vampire survivor clone and deck builder slop that was getting old at the time. Unfortunately the dev was a 19 year old furry and didn't keep with it, if he did it would been a giant IP akin to Five Nights at Freddies or Underetale. All that game needed was world building so deviants would create OC and it would became a legend. I think there is a lack of fresh dungeon crawlers, they are all the same but lethal broke that but now it became friendslop. I think that model of dungeon crawling could be huge for a single player game for looting autism.
>>735341759Why are you freaks always obsessed with making a game only to make money and not because you love videogames
>>735378761Seething incel failure
>>735332472The Fate of Games is fickle.A masterpiece like Sektori comes and goes unnoticed when games like Concord part 6 gets millions of replies.
>>735342603I'm sad now
>>735332409Happy because he used all of his savings to keep making the game while supporting his family. Tough years and challenges with a baby. He cried from relief because the child has a better future now.Rather give him the money from the game ten times and a single cent to EA/Blizzard/Activision.
This roastie is gonna take 50% of his earnings Rip….
>>735334563Frebbventure
>>735351716does this actually work?
>>735349751>student loans.Mutt's mind is finna be broken when he finds out about European education system.
>>735332613What does a poorfag indie dev need a house for? What if his next game bombs and he loses the house? What then? Will he make another crying video, or whatever?
>>735342296This thread is also good marketing
>>735334563Well said Sigbreathfloyd
When did you realize indie developers are untalented Newgrounds tier developers? for me it was both Hollow Knight/Silksong and The Binding of Isaac.
>>735332472Fuck off retard, he had to make a game worth playing first, you sour grape faggots are abaolutely, positively NGMI
>>735332472Why don’t you just… kill Moist Critical and replace him with an AI that plays everyone’s games?
>>735332226>The female only cares about the moneySad
>>735332330Because people just refund game after copying the files steam is retarded
>>735332226200k is considered a good gross salary for 1year but what's the long term plan? 120k after tax doesnt go far
gay performative male publicity stunt
>>735332262oh (you)
>>735338315I make 25k a year as a poor minimum wage fag.If I did what he did, worked 4 years making a game, 250k would cover the next 10 years of my life.
>>735377058damn save some for the rest of us
>>735387452im a neet i probably should've been doing this the past 10 years but i havent done shit lol itts too latte now
>>735387582Its never to latte to be grande
>>735387681so troo
>>735341629>a livingAnyone can move to the 3rd world with the money they have and call that a "living" People would also kill you for $10.Your post really ain't doing it.
>>735384412>OP specifically about money>"why do you care about money"based 70 IQ knob licker
>>735386846Still need to unlock the EXE from Steam though.Main thing I'm curious about with Steam refunds is whether or not Steam holds onto payments long enough to offset most of the "buys then refunds within a week" charges that would accumulate.
>>735341943>>735335772Fight Knight sucks ass.Every encounter has a specific set of actions to consistently solve it you figure out after like the second fight, but it spams encounters absurdly often, makiong combat rote and boring rather than engaging, while you try to do puzzles which require tons of movement, leading to even more of the same few fights. Its piss easy and never really fun Its not a surprise it didnt' do well
>>735333818idk lol I havent paid my taxes in 3 years and nothing's happenedI just decided "yeah who cares I just won't send a report and keep my money" and its working. they don't have the time to deal with a poorfag loser
>>735334563>Just world fallacy + implying that popular = goodHoly retaed
>>735357808Cunnilingus
>>735332262lolGood one m8
>>735332409>>735332226he's happy cause he's a small 1 man dude
>>735333784>>735343071>>735343164This for me unironically. If a game features a cute/hot girl, I'm at least like 5x more likely to check it out.
>>735387727the hell is leon doing there
