>Name: Starfarer>New classes: Ranger is a physical ranged dps with a crossbow, Bard is being redesigned to decouple it from Archer. Geomancer is a melee healer that uses a bell and its strikes resonate aoe heals from its target>New location: unconnected zones across The Source and three shards>Plot hook: Ysh'tola and Shale discover how to use the key and to avoid the risk of appearing on the ocean floor or something as the shards have had 10k years of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and god knows what magical wars/calimity's the choice is made for the Moon to be the interdimensional hub, but in the core left empty with Zodiarks Demise. The loporrits join us using the tech they used to contact sharlayan to choose locations to drop a teleport site to get from that shards moon to the surface. Halmarut and Calyx be joining the party as uneasy allies as you work together to find ways to reconnect the shards connection to the source that has broken in hydaelyns absence.>There is not one main villain but one enemy faction per shard that risk pulling the party in too many directions at once.
>>735436391>Melee classes are being reworked to replace MP, no info on how DRK is effected>No new race but a major update to character creation with more sliders and more colour options for hair along with new scarring option, purchase of Starfarer naturally grants everyone another fantasia>Expansion is not themed on one FF game but 3. FF8, FF7 and FFX-2 with each shard have themes of each. War, Ecology and Legacy>Limited Job Roulette added to duty finder>Chocobo system has been redesigned using some mechanics from Beastmaster, BST players will be able to do dungeons with their Chocobo>Job quests are returning but only 3 per job>A new disciple of hand/land job is in the works but not coming at release>Starfarer releases in December 2026>Ben Starr is voicing a new character who joins the scions for the initial 8.0 MSQ>Soken now shares the role of lead composer to share the workload with Takafumi Imamura>The lead writer has been changed>Fan fest bonuses: ff7 themed for america, ff8 for europe and ffx-2 for japan
There are no leaks, there are never leaks, you're a retarded tranny cringelord that needs to stay in one of the other two contain threads already up for 14.
>>735436391>>735436425
just make your own game you sissy retards
>>735436391>Bard is being redesigned to decouple it from Archerso they are just gay now
>>735436391BLUfever, my beloved.....
>>735436425buttslider confirmed?
>>735436886>There are no leaks, there are never leaksNewfag.
>>735436391>Geomancer is a melee healerNice try but your bullshit fell apart right here, 6/10.
>>735436391>Bard is being redesigned to decouple it from ArcherAnd just like that I now consider this game to be nothing more than trash.
>people will believe this because the first fanfest will show that the game is FF7 themed but yosneeda will mention how DT's focus on 9 was a detriment to story planning
>>735437569the first fanfest will give us the name won't it?
the most tru thing here is ff7 influence since nanaki minion is in the 7.45 patch files.could just be mogstation slop instead of preorder but its weird and a random choice for a minion instead of barret/yuffie/sephiroth. (cloud tifa and aerith are already minions on mogstation)
>>735436886>There are never leakslol, lmao.
>>735437626should I think first fanfes usually does, albiet sans trailer or anything actually interesting besides the name and maybe some local login art
>>735437693Cashshop or collab.
>>735437640Bro the new ascian is a flower themed ancient who wears western dresses who can "hear the planet" and how nature is dying. There is no way its not an FF7 expansion to tie into FF7R3's release and breaking glass to recover from Dawntrail ala WoW's Legion.
>>735437819Is Calyx our Cait Sith?
>>735437693Oh, it's realhttps://v2.xivapi.com/api/asset?path=ui/icon/068000/068976_hr1.tex&format=png
>>735437734I think part of the Gold Saucer update/collab. They've wanted to do a FF7 collab but wanted to wait for Remake trilogy to finish.
>>735437950Yes.
>>735437819>to recover from Dawntrail ala WoW's Legion.Legion turned out go be a good one. You're thinking of WoD.
>>735436391Ah fake leaks.It's really FFXIV fanfest season.I feel good.
>Get to the end of the new Garlemald dungeon>Beating final boss knocks open a casket>Inside is an early fucked up Emet clone >Voiced by Ben Starrand theres your Vincent Valentine.
>>735437819>To recover from Dawntrail ala WoW's Legion.But legion was good.
>>735437693That's not a leak there's always a FFVII minion for Fanfest
>>735438486>>735438343No Dawntrail was WoD, an FF7 expansion is Legion using Illidan to bring people back.
>>735436391This is all very underwhelming which is how I know it's true.
>>735436391>No full gameplay makeover>No corsairWow look at all this money I wont be spending on this gameLet it go, devs are retarded and out of touch, they made their bed
>>735437308>implying that >>735437693 is a "leak" comparable to the tranny OPs delusional daydreaming.
>>735436391what is her accent
>>735438690>No full gameplay makeoverThe engine is such a catastrophic mess I doubt they could do any kind of major gameplay rework, they're in the same boat as Jagex, stuck with an MMO full of so much spaghetti code that trying to touch any of it could cause it to fall apart.
>>735438795Southern pre colonial Ireland.
>>735438590So you agree.
>>735436391>a physical ranged dps with a crossbow which Machinist already usesIt HAS to be bullshit, the devs can't be this stupidAlso>healer>uses a bellThis is too retarded even for them
>>735438824And thats why its fucked, the game is never recovering until they redo many aspects but theyre so incompetent and the game is so fucked that theres just no way.Dt kinda exposed the fucked up gameplay loop and if they have any hope of bringing the game back theyd have to fix that
>>735439215MCH doesn't use a crossbow because that's a dps loss.>healer>uses a bell>This is too retarded even for themHello secondary.
>>735439215> healer with a bell is too retarded to doanon I
Do you like midlanders?
>>735439215secondary bro...
>>735439215
>>735439407There is no way to design a bell in a way that is interesting to look at unless you make it's comically big and have it hang on the back (also comical)
>>735439696nigga they already done did it in Final Fantasy.
>>735439696>There is no way to design a paintbrush in a way that is interesting to look at unless you make it's comically big and have it hang on the back (also comical)
>>735439696Friend before you embarass yourself further i should inform you Geomancer using a Bell is an established thing. Its just a clerics mace with a chime inside.
>>735439696yes I'd hate 14 to have any silly weapons that strain credulity.like bowharps
>>735439595Why are we pretending that looks anything like a bell?
>>735439907We have electric guitarbows now.
>>735439937god damn bard is so stupid. imagine wasting archer on this bravely default 2 horseshit.
it's gonna be blitzballer
>>735439919That's a wand, not their bell. The bell is equipped in the ranged weapon slot and used in spellcasting.https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/IdrisYou can see the bell in this webm >>735439645
>>735439937this, as you can see, is a heart-attack serious game for serious gamers.like how ff7 has a giant plushie party member.or ff12 has a playboy bunny.or ff8 has a woman launch her dog for attacks.very serious franchise.
>>735436425>Starfarer releases in December 2026Not happening with the current patch lengths.
>>735440165> one month after jpfesI mean, god bless the dreamers but this shit isn't dropping until at least early march I'd be shocked if it was any earlier.
>>735439696Geomancer's have always used bells.
>>735440263Yoshida has specifically said "it may arrive sooner after jp fanfest than you think". They need it in 2026 for shares financials and december is the end of the line.
>>735440448I would LOVE for this to be the case because god knows 7.55 in june is not gonna carry this shit til q1 2027 but I'm just too cynical to believe it.
>>735440401Not in Tactics which is the first time they appeared in the franchise. FF11 secondaries will seethe at this though
>>735440646>Not in Tactics which is the first time they appeared in the franchise.Who's the secondary again?
>>735440646>Not in Tactics which is the first timeThey first appeared in 3 you retarded tourist.
>>735440646CEASEi am getting embarassed for you!
>>735440165The only way I can see it happening is if it's no longer doing a "10 level" experience with MSQ. Then they could release a smaller MSQ at "launch".
>>735436391>Geomancer is a melee healer0/10. Try harder. We all know healers will only ever adhere to the current design philosophy so anything deviating from that philosophy will never happen. Combined with the devs obvious hatred for the role means there will never be a new healer added to the game unless there is a major shift in design and balance at the top.
>>735441184>im a pissy bitch so my headcanon is realityYour mental health is not your fault, but it is your responsability.
Shut the fuck up and post Gposes. [Hardmode - No modbeasts]
>>735436391I want to cum all over her glasses>>735439547I prefer Femezen, but I'm open to trying anything once
>>735441242I haven't been subbed since late shadowbringers so my mental health doesn't suffer from this game. It's just the reality of the state of the game.
>>735441359>g pose>not straight screenshotslook what they need for a fraction of a bnnuys power.
>>735440690>>735440709>>735440774Are you new to 4chan? How can you get baited this easily?
>>735436391>Three shards with three different conflicts>plus the Source>all in one storyNo way
>>735441758Yeah clearly it was your little brother at the keyboard right bro?
>>735441758Fuck off retard.
>Bard is being redesigned to decouple it from Archer.This is how I know this list is bullshit.
>>735441783>Hydaelyn's death broke the connection to the shards and they are dying.>We go to each shard for two zones>.1 wraps up shard 1>.2 wraps up shard 2>.3 wraps up shard 3>.4 begins story for next expansionIts not that crazy. Shit Dawntrail basically gave us a useless zone in Living Memory. They clearly are trying to mix up the formula.
>>735442032>Shit Dawntrail basically gave us a useless zone in Living Memory.Every zone in XIV is useless, but especially the final zone in each expansion. Azys Lla, the Lochs, Tempest, Ultima Thule, all useless.
>>735441981Why? Summoner used to be a dot class, Machinist used to be a soft pet class, Monk and Dragoon used to be entirely based around directionals. Shit changes all the time unless you are the Red Mage alliance raid retard insurance.
>>735441758Fucking retard
Oyakodon!
>>735436425>December 2026nice fanfic
>>735442102Ays Lla was great for fate farming and the relic was connected to it.Tempest was peak for mat farming from chain kills, Ultima Thule was peak for gatherers with the aether and crystal changes. Lochs and Living Memory were the most pointless but at least Lochs had Ixion and the underwater mining.
>>735442032Living Memory is basically the main hub and the gateway to the Ninth now.It's not useless at all
>>735442163Thank you for the meal.
>>735442127They won't detach it.If they were going to detach jobs, they would have detached summoner or scholar from arcanist already.
>>735442339Decouple is industry term for "changing tone/vibe". It probably means removing some of the focus on certain things that will become Rangers focus. Probably leaning more into buffs with Ranger being more into the debuffs.
>>735436391>Bard decoupled from ArcherCongrats on killing your credibility three sentences in
>>735437308Fucking Tony leak thoughHow the fuck did he know?There was another leak, too, with a popped eardrum. He had to be in on the job.
is wuk a scion yet
>>735444479wuks done, she had her goodbye cutscene in the latest patch, now its all about halibut being an autistic azem stalker.
>>735436391Wow that's really interesting.Anyway, Alisaie bouncing on my WoL's cock.
>>735437398Alphinaud
>>735436391>geomancer is a melee healerIf true they're going to use it as the test run in changing healers. They're really going to give all healers a dps rotation (possibly) since they fucked it up when they gave all the tanks insane self-sustain.
>>735436391>>735436425>thinking they would stray this hard from their typical formulalol, lmaojust stop
>>735445615Gullible.
>>735436391I can see that happening>>735436425Now that's total bullshit
>remove all ogcd heals>reduce duration of all dot spells>add 1-2 more dps spells that aren't gated by another ability or long recastthats all they need to do to fix healers.
So... is the game worth coming back to yet?
>>735449813Wait for fanfest next month and see what happens. As it stands the game has major issues with content design.
>>735436391halmarut's musty unshaven ascian pussy
>>735436391>Bard is being redesigned to decouple it from Archer."CS3 is putting in extra work on something" is the most unrealistic part of this entire thing
>>735449813When did you last play? 7.0 was dogshit and 7.1 was a .1 patch but .2 to now has only gotten better and better.
>new healer: chemist>have to mix potions, think mudras or dancer sort of thing>heals AND buffs>new phys ranged: gunslinger>dual gun job, think merlwyb>shorter range than typical phys range but longer than melee>basically the mnk of phys range in terms of playstyle
There wont be any new jobs, because they had to spend the time "redesigning" old jobs.
>>735452992I wish, but two new job icon slots were already datamined.
>>735436391Keep me updated
>>735444839errr bro, that's alphinaud
>Pistachios, are you a pistachio? I'm so hungry.
>>735443983God. I still remember when this happened, delayed the whole thing like a half hour plus. I tuned in right after landing in NYC in the car ride and it was pouring. And had to leave hotel room asap for a bachelor party so I couldn’t watch this, and they still didn’t start yet because of all the tech difficulties.Just wanted to watch the Raptors game that night too at the strip club. Bouncers didn’t like that because I got comfy and sunk in the seat. I hate normies.
>>735455332>I hate normies.>in a story about going to a bachelor party at a strip club
>>735455432It was for my brother’s wedding. I’m not that socially stunted. Though I did want to talk to the designated stripper to our table about Mario Kart.
>>735455332>>735455523You are the most normalfag goycattle poster itt
>>735455718>>735455432He kinda seems like this guy desu
>>735436391>the choice is made for the Moon to be the interdimensional hub, but in the core left empty with Zodiarks Demise.Isn't that already occupied with the portal to the 13th's moon?
Once again, unless the combat is being revamped, i don't give a single shit
>>7354363918.0 is Westwolves
>>735456403The combat is fine (minus the netcode which honestly I don't even believe they CAN fix at this point)Its more the general job design.Which again, has good with bad. Job design being as truly balanced as it is, regardless of homogenization of jobs is what allows for the type of end game raids we get. Which like it or not, as someone who shit all over Dawntrail for its story themes, and locals, and characters and writing, the raids have been the best they've ever been. I too would love to see jobs kinda brought back into their own identities more as well. But I think the general "combat" feel is good. Its job identity thats not.They could rectify this with job reworks which apparently are coming.Or they *could* add specs (they won't) or a more unique gear system (they won't). Also Materia is boring. And its annoying they shove that shit in as a reward in every single thing like people even care about Materia at this point.Anyway, there is good and bad with the combat, and the good is that it allows for some great raid fights in the style they do them in, which are very scripted. But it does lower unique feeling job identities, something thats been an issue since ShB and beyond.
>>735456793I guess that's what i meant, every job being the same shit with a different aesthetic needs to go
>>735448193They should do a different thing for each healer so they actually play different in regards to DPS (which is what they do most of the time). Give Scholar back its gorillion DoTs because managing DoTs was its identity. Give White Mage a few direct attacks, some with CDs or maybe comboing off of each other. Have Astrologian have some extra cards stuff so they're often focusing on that but have a simpler DPS rotation. And then give Sage a bunch of stuff that interacts with Kardia and their other unique abilities (i.e. Eukrasia turns some heals into attacks).
>>735456859Completely understandable.I watched Preach talk about his time coming back to FF14 to do savage. As hes mostly a WoW guy, it was interesting to hear comparisons of how things work there.I don't think WoW fights sound nearly as interesting mechanically as 14, which is a lot of the fun, but when shit goes south, a good player who knows their class can pull off some cool shit and save that day. Which doesn't really happen in 14. Things I kind of wish could/would. Or even just small things like Demon Hunters being able to glide around, or the dragon evoker class being able to fly natively. Its neat touches that make them feel unique. That said, I've tried to play WoW multiple times and I just don't like how that game feels to play mechanically. Combat feels strange and weightless (not that MMOs typically have a ton of weight behind their combat but still). But they do have pretty significant differences in their class/job design, which I like.Also theres no Miqo'te and Night Elves and Draenei can't make up for their absence.
>>735448193T. Orange parser pictomancer
>>735457319A lot of FFXIV's job design is to avoid the problems WoW's always had. Blizzard is complete dogshit at balancing any game they've made. WoW frequently has situations where one spec can do multiple times as much DPS as others, or a spec literally cannot be brought because it's functionally worthless and a wasted slot, or the optimal strategy for a fight is to make sure ALL of your DPS are one specific spec because they have this one ability that trivializes the fight. It's a serious problem in WoW. And it's made more retarded in WoW because class is tied to character, you can't swap, and the gear treadmill is WAY more brutal (most fights are specifically designed to be more like gear checks than mechanics checks and aren't meant to be cleared right off the bat without improved gear).FFXIV goes out of its way to solve those problems and has extremely good balance. FFXIV raiders have meltdowns over one job doing 3% less DPS than peers in its role. Which is like a fucking comedy bit when you look at any other game, much less any MMORPG. And being able to swap jobs on your character makes it so that the gearing and balance is less of a concern in the first place. So it leads to this weird situation where FFXIV is willing to butcher its job design for the sake of balance and parity to avoid problems WoW has when it ALREADY solved the issue with class-swapping.I think Squeenix could and should get away with sacrificing a bit of balance to make jobs more unique. HW and SB was fine with balance and job identity, and they also showed that people complaining about balance had no fucking idea what they were talking about (i.e. DRK was said to be in the cuck shed the entire expansion but it racked up a ton of world firsts because its niche was great for progging fights). Squeenix unironically needs to care less about balance and more about fun. They've shown they can make fun jobs in the past.
>>735457991That's me and I say that.
>>735458023>A lot of FFXIV's job design is to avoid the problems WoW's always hadThat I believe. Like I said, I think the job balance / homogenization absolutely has some upsides, but the downside of losing a more unique job feel is pretty significant too. I don't know the answer myself, but hopefully they come up with something cool.>FFXIV raiders have meltdowns over one job doing 3% less DPS than peers in its roleYeah, I'm not world firsty enough to ever care about that sort of thing. I think the only time I made sure to have a single specific job in my groups was actually in this expansion, just because of how strong Picto was. Otherwise, I was pretty open.> And being able to swap jobs on your character makes it so that the gearing and balance is less of a concern in the first place.To an extent anyway. As long as you aren't trying to gear multiple for current end game. But I get what you mean.>I think Squeenix could and should get away with sacrificing a bit of balance to make jobs more uniqueAgreed. >Squeenix unironically needs to care less about balance and more about fun. They've shown they can make fun jobs in the past.I think they are trying to milk the fun from the fights themselves, more than the jobs. Its definitely been good for this expansion at least. Theres been nothing but praise for the raids. And they are great. But yeah I think they need to lean more into pulling fun from the classes specifically.
Midlander men are incels btw, don't fall for the trap of rolling oneEither roll a male cat for max bishie points or a highlander man to mog and fuck daddy issue women
>>735458023The WoW "problem" you describe is something that only manifests among RWF-level players or the top .1% of M+. It is not real outside of that. Guilds with normal people just bring what they feel like playing and they beat the content if they are good at the game. You can get CE or progress into high-end M+ with whatever spec you want, all it requires is not being bad at the game.Also FF's butchering of its job designs was not done to parsetards. It happened because their job design/balance team is literally 4 dudes and SE refuses to support it properly. They homogenized in order to ease their workload because they realized they were undersized, out of their own depth, and faced with a job that would only become more difficult as jobs get added. Square Enix is a retarded company that cannot manage a studio properly, and that's why FF14 jobs are the way they are.
>>735458796>The WoW "problem" you describe is something that only manifests among RWF-level players or the top .1% of M+.It's the same across every MMO. You'll hear people saying that you HAD to play specific jobs in FFXI and only a certain way and only with the best rare/ex drops because you'd be excluded from groups if you didn't. And it wasn't true unless those groups you were trying to get into were sweatlord HNM shells. My stupid 12 year old ass got invites as a sword wielding RDM/THF with no fucking enhancement magic skill ups, I got to level 60 that way.
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>>735436391>>735436425This is complete fucking bullshit but I like it.
>>735458796>SE refuses to support it properlyAlso true.For a game that is basically carrying Square-Enix on its back, they sure are reluctant to reinvest money into it at all for some reason.I genuinely don't understand this companies current direction at all.
>>735458490>>735459123This thread's a lil gay but this poster is based
https://poal.me/j2jun3https://poal.me/j2jun3https://poal.me/j2jun3https://poal.me/j2jun3
>>735459123Is Ryne relevant again yet?If not then no sub.
>>735459162They need to send us back to the first for some contrived reasons just to check on Ryne.>>735459389Sadly no.
>>735459545They really do hate money.
For me it's blonde Ryne servicing fat men at the Beehive.
>>735459389>>735459576But Sphene is pretty nice. The one good thing from DTs story honestly.
>>735459613The first half of that post is nice anyway.But I think Red Ryne is nice too.
>>735459613Also I don't have much blonde Ryne atm
>>735458490>>735459123Ryne a shit.
>>735460181I have to disagree.
>>735460181boooooo
>>735437693>leak>showing thing already in game files added with last patch
>>735458796>The WoW "problem" you describe is something that only manifests among RWF-level players or the top .1% of M+I know. And the only people that give a shit about balance in XIV are them or people trying to ape them because it makes them seem skilled. The normal player doesn't give a shit about the actual balance and only goes off of vibes. The people that bitch about Spread Balance until Astrologian gets gutted are the raiders.>Guilds with normal people just bring what they feel like playing and they beat the content if they are good at the game.The same would apply to XIV even if the balance was worse, which was my entire point.
niggas are acting like if the balance was as bad as wow's worst eras there wouldn't be jobs blacklisted from PF. You people forget skip soar or disband yet?
>>735462006skip soar didn't require a perfect 8 man setupjust 6
>>735462006Skip soar had nothing to do with party comp. My group skipped it day one, we didn't even know there was anything to skip. We rolled with PLD, MNK, BLM, no AST, no MCH, no DRG. We were as far away from the meta as possible.
>>735462410>>735462309Less to mean that skipping soar needed specific party comp, but that the playerbase's bitchass behavior would absolutely make job balance a PF issue.
>>735462507achieving perfect balance wouldn't matter to those types and they'd still just copy whatever clear videos they watched
>>735438485>>Inside is an early fucked up Emet clone Oh good->>Voiced by Ben StarrFucking dropped.
>>735462710I like Ben Starr desu. I just hope he doesn't get milked by the industry like they did Matt Mercer and Troy Baker.
>>735463001I don't mind Ben Starr, but if they were going to bring back Emet via a clone might as well bring back his voice actor too.
>>735436391>The loporrits join usGOD NO
>>735463215hahaha PUDDING
