Why is it so unfun compared to 1?
they made two of the returning characters black and one of the new ones is trans
>>7355530701 wasn't fun either
>>735553070They're both fun
>>735553070Because it's just more of the same shit.
>>735553271really?
>>735553070I'm having super fun
>>735553271nigging Silent was vile
>>735553070Not possible. 2nd has regent and first game doesn't.
>>735553707Regent has exactly one viable strategy.
>>735553070>the first game just better>unfunYou're crazy
>>73555386396.45% vs 76.00%>inb4 muh player count the first one has 209k reviews
>>735553753Regent has fun strategies.
I probably had a few dozens of hours on the first game, but I remember having a bad experience with The Silent, so I never played her much.Holy shit, she is so busted.
>>735553698>>735553271Nigga what? Silent was always brown
>>735553698All those warts don't do her any favors, either.They should have stuck with vague waifu looks.
>>735554289It was ambiguous and mysterious. Like darkened males in netorare, because it is a mysterious ninja shaman character. Now she's just a nig.
co-op makes it more fun but also punishes singleplayer by making cards that are only good in co-op.good riddance though because sts1 sucked.
>>735554005Because chinese retards threw a tantrum about nerfs in a beta build of an actively in development game, even in early access it's better than the first
>>735553070I'm yet to start the ascension and unlock all cards but>There are more broken combos (albeit not infinite)>High synergy between cards makes so build variety suffers (Key missing cards can be offset by other cards, bloated engines)>Most bosses are easy or not unique enough (Elites seem OK so far but it's a mixed bag)>Relics are handed like candy, ancient cards are good but most boss relics are comparatively uncommon tier, some are even detrimental >Events are mostly positive and non challengingIt's slightly watered down compared to StS1 difficulty wise, you got no good tier 2/3 bosses that punish stalling or strats (Time Eater and Awakened)Game is fun tho it just need a balance patch
I don't fucking understand Defect. Sometimes it's like all you do is play orbs and you win then sometimes it's like you do fucking nothing. Mixing is also a huge fucking bad idea with Defect.
>>735553070is there any point in buying 1 now that 2 is out?
>>735554420Anon you're just a gigantic giga faggot.Actually neck yourself.
>>735554826Mods, that's bout it
>>735554826Only if you can't wait until 2 is out of early access.
>>735554826It's a finished and more challenging/refined experience.Just glet the bundle anon.
>>735554826Gitting good at 1 so that you're good by the time 2 is more finished.
I liked Balatro. Redpill me on sts
>>735554642>There are more broken combosTrue perhaps, but almost none are broken enough to carry you. You need to block 30+ every turn or you're dead. If your broken combo requires you to get 2/3 powers online you're dead. If it requires you to use a 3 mana card you're dead. If your broken defense doesn't work every single turn you're dead. If it takes too long to work or doesn't have any AoE you're dead. You'll bleed out before finishing act 2. I feel like StS1 had more buff turns to allow you to breathe, enemies were more gimmicky and could be beaten using strategy even if your deck wasn't godly, StS is a constant block/damage race.
>>735553070I havent played 2 but how the fuck did people get endless enjoyment and replay value out of 1?maybe there are a lot of builds to try but the enemy variety is not special or difficult
>>735555314>maybe there are a lot of builds to try but the enemy variety is not special or difficultplay on maxx difficulty and you'll see
>>735555274It's the same as StS1, the game let's you scale damage better than block and having lethal is better than blocking.The rest comes down to deck building ... most enemies dont even deal more than 20/30 dmg and don't have dangerous gimmicks
>>735555075slay the spire has more variety in builds. 4 characters to choose from who all play different. outside of that i like balatro more. its just quicker to get runs going
>>735553070Because it's too easy. Once they nerf more stuff and add act 4 it will be better than the original. Especially if they add alternate act 2 and 3 for more variety like act 1.
>>735555928that would make the game worse lmao
>>7355548261 is fully finished and a better game overall currently. Even if 2 is better when it's finished 1 will still have it's own unique enemies, cards, relics, and bosses. They are different games.
They removed the extreme ends of both player power and game difficulty and flattened the curve.So the enemies are easier and more even throughout the run, but your cards are weak and boring.
>>735556079How would balancing broken stuff, adding act 4, or more alternate acts make the game worse? STS1 is in a lot better state than when it first released after going through balancing and getting act 4.
>>735553070Got to agree with this anon. I played an assload of STS1 but only got to ascension 5 in STS2 and dont think im gonna touch it ever again.
>>735553070It isn’t but so far it’s really Slay the Spire 1.5. I had the same feeling when Bioshock 2 came out. It was mechanically a better game but really more of an expansion pack than a true evolution of the series so I quickly burnt out. Of course, Infinite, a much more apparent sequel graphically and mechanically, ended up beingcomplete ass. The point is: sequels require maintaining a tricky balance.
>>735556226if you want more cbt just mod your sts1.there are already too many filler cards and relics in the game no reason to make more.another act would be cool but getting the acts they already have in a better state would be preferable since more time will statistically be spent in those than in a final act
Its act 3. You are starving for energy. No orbit or Alignment in sight and you are presented with this. Do you leave a negative review?
>>735554420>Every picture of her shows her with brown skin>"ambiguous and mysterious"
Game has a lot more variance to it now. More mechanics, more punishes. More obscene spikes, more brutal punishes. Ancients giving relics is pretty swingy. You can either get good shit that single-handedly saves a run or dogshit that is actively harmful for your deck. Cards aren't balanced properly, there's a lot of stuff that feels weird/ half baked (regent colorless generation, ironclad vuln, necrobinder doom)
>>735556430You mean you got bad rng in a deck builder roguelite? Yeah, damn, go get em, king.
what do we think of the balance changes?
>>735556430I forget what whistle does off the top of my head, but it'd be that or feedback because the other two are very niche and unpleasant.i could not be assed to go change my review later, so personally wouldnt do it yet.
>>735556392I never said to add more cards or relics. I just want a true act 4 mostly. I assume multiple acts for each was always the plan eventually for STS2 though. They definitely need to heavily buff most of the bosses but also nerf a lot of the elites. It's too good currently to just skip most elite fights.
>>735556430Get zero cost cards or fucking energy gen cards/relics... Maybe don't click on every 3 energy card?
>>735554824you just spam the claw card, don't bother with orbs
i just did like 8 ironclad a10 runs and i didnt win a single one
>>735556430You should have taken a card solution for energy from a shop or something by now. Did you really never get offered anything? Iron club is pretty good once you have some kind of energy card.
>>735556764Winning without frost orbs is literally impossible even on A0.
>>735554420I think you might be a bit dumb.
>>735556813Post pic of a run history for one of your failed runs so i can criticize your choices if you want
>>735556739Shut the fuck up, idiot. Sometimes it turns out that way, that you are simply never, ever offered energy. Is it really so unbelievable that it happens?
>>735556130Lack of limit break AND reaper really rustles my jimmies.
>>735556951Not that guy but I will do the same if I lose with regent tonight. I'm sick and fucking tired of not being able to put shit together
>>735554420niggerness is not just the color of the skin
>>735556731nerfing cards makes more filler cards.
>>735553698she was always brown/black tho, not sure what youre on about
>>735553698They made her objectively hotter.
>be defect>play 20 cards a turn gaining and spending energy, ending up with 30 block in the process>play regent>1 attack and 1 skill, maybe 2 if I'm pushing itidk how to play this class
>>735556951>get an early inflame>take strength scaling cards>die
>>735557089They want you to use janky shit like "Photon cut" and "put a card on the top of your deck" with kingly punch hitting for 12 instead of something with some heft, like glow glow radiate
>>735554420Made me chuckle, thank you for being born retarded
>>735556974>reaperI had forgotten about that one. Yeah not being able to heal more than 6 per turn without winning the relic lottery is a big deal given that self-harm is one of two viable strategies.
>>735556859go a bit of frost orbs then spam claw build
>>735556706It adds a 3 cost damaging card that stuns an enemy with exhaust to your deck. It's fine, but underwhelming for an ancient. Pretty good against bosses that aren't queen though
>>735557161What were the other neow options?Were there no paths with more events in between the easy pool fights or something like 3 fights something something and a fire with better pivot points?Also sword boomerang is kind of ass and the game has a lot of multiple enemy encounters nowI think ironclad is dogshit right now and the underdock can go fuck itself but those are my thoughts
>>735557154Stars
>>735557146Come the fuck on.
>>735557345Is the whole forge mechanic a big meme? It's so much build up for like one hit
>>735553070most of the game is missing
>>735556969Yeah, that often happens now, so you shouldn’t be stuffing your deck full of expensive cards. Oh this game that has hardly any energy relics? Time to stuff my deck full of 4 cost cards!
>>735557154Defect can only do that because of plasma and the crazy energy card for 1 cost. The other card that doubles energy is better when upgraded, but it's still not that great without the +6 energy.
>>735556969>No Energy relicsYeah happens>No Energy gen. cards Likely >No Energy gen. potions Unlikely >No zero cost cards or synergies BullshitJust don't force your builds and learn to play with 3 energy
>>735557331i cant remember what the map looked like, i wish they would show the path you took.
>>735557404yes its meme, once you go star with void power you get to play 2(3) cards on every turn free. So you can play 30-40 damage cards without cost, its op more than forge by a long shot
>>735557404I like to have at least one forge card as a damage supplemental cause the sword retains and you can just keep it around to use on a turn where it will have lethal or your hand is a brick cause you drew 5 defends.
Why the fuck am I so bad at the game?What do you generally do? Thin your deck? Upgrade your deck? Take as many cards as possible?I have a feeling regardless of what I do, I get fucked by the end boss because I don't have enough block
>>735556430"starving for energy" how are you even A10 with this attitude? embarrassing the game is clearly way too easy.
>>735557404its a meme to stack a bunch for forge cards in 1 deck but as a one off damage card they arent bad. bulwark and summon forth are good
>>735557573Prioritize new cards and upgrading in Act 1. Be wary of elites unless you get a godroll card setup.
>>735557431People say this shit while simultaneously lambasting players for putting "garbage" in their deck
>>735557465It's cool bro, there's a lot going on in the game.I would've taken pearl if you had an easier path, 150 gold does nothing and you're hitting the first hard pool encounter before the shop, that's kind of asking to get your ass raped and gaped in a way. I don't know what the map looked like but you strolled through fucking israel over there.I'm a scroll boxes enjoyer, the spike in power your deck can get is more than worth the 99 gold but then you don't go into a shop obviously. It depends on the character, I haven't played too much ironclad since clearing A10 and hitting the wall trying to get a streak beacuse I hate his current state, but I can imagine it being really good overall.
>>735557573I unironically find thinner decks better, but it’s not about thin or thick. It’s about draw power and exhaust power. As long as you can scale and attack while blocking every other turn. You win.
>>7355574043 energy deal 10, does that sound like a good card?
>>735557573It depends on the situation for me. Having a thin deck is generally better than a thick deck, and you want to take only syngeristic cards at some point to avoid bloating it. But at the start, you’re very weak and should just take what you can get and then build for synergy later, even if what you’re taking is mediocre. You just gotta take some attacks to kill things in a reasonable time.
>>735556706>replacing upto 6 cards with maul is badwhat the fuck are you on about, i pick it up almost everytime. gets rid of strikes, curses, hell even defends because in act 3 5 block won't do jack shit.
>>735557404forge was really fun in co-op because I would give people who actually had good energy a big ass sword with the sharing power. also i like building up for a big execute in general.
>>735557161Too many fights. Try to path for more events after the first 3 fights. Some of the later fights in act 1 are almost as punishing as just taking an elite fight but with way less payoff. Slow the fuck down you must be taking extra HP loss where you could micro manage better if you are spending less than 30 seconds per floor. Instead of doing 8 super fast runs try 4 runs where you slow down some or whatever. It really makes a difference to save tiny slivers of HP if it keeps you alive until the next campfire or high roll moment.
>>735557404its good as fuck, you play bulwark twice and have a 30 damage for 2 card retained in your hand (on a character with 0 energy vuln in starting deck). and it keeps getting bigger.
>>735557404It doesn't work on its own, you can't really build a deck around forge unless you get energy relics because the sword is 2 cost. If you want to play more than 3 cards per turn you better have stars, and playing stars means you aren't forging. Plus building your deck around a card that you have to cycle your entire deck for or fish for that one card that puts a card from your discard to the top of your deck feels really unreliable.
>>735553070way too hard, some of the fights feel like elitest. a20 pro from sts 1
>>735557781i usually have trimmed my deck to my liking by that point and would prefer to stick to my build.
also this one>perfected strike deck>easily clearing room after room>decide to duplicate my deck in the event that gives you the bad luck curse card>immediately diemy perfected strikes did a shit ton of damage, but damn the draw order just completely fucked me over. i'm starting to believe that event is bait.
>tfw double meteor strikes and 13+ energy a turn but nothing to spend it onShould've taken the tempest+ on the first floor.
>>735557787in coop it feels a little better, cuz your team can help where it struggles to kill enemies like the bugs and bosses in coop are so tanky that slowly ramping up to deal a billion damage is more justified
The wiki sucks major ass. Wtf is this pajeet web 4.09 shit. https://slaythespire2.gg/enemies/hunter-killerCompare to https://slay-the-spire.fandom.com/wiki/Gremlin_Nob
>>735553070its not, just take more events they are OP in this game
>>735558058I am not clicking fandom shit, sorry.Also who the fuck needs a wiki for a game with a compendium?
>>735557876Duplicating your deck is a great way to double the odds that rng fucks you by putting everything you need deeper inside your colossal deck, the curse doesn't even matter because most of the time it's a drop in the bucket in your 50+ card deck
>>735557573Thin your deck of useless cards.Take only the cards you need (Do I need defense ASAP? Pick cards with block)Use potions even on hallways (sometimes you can save like 20hp or more which means another upgrade or card reward)Pick Key cards or useful cards for the next Boss encounter, remember you need to "balance" your deck between damage/block but damage is more important
>>735557623Regent is the one character that pretty much requires a 4th energy, especially on high ascensions
>>735557873>doesn't have 6 strikes/defend at the start of act 3that almost never happens unless you're aggressively looking for card removal which you should not be doing. anyways slay the spire is all about adapting to what you find, and maul is an excellent wincon if you have decent block.
>>735558058They're both disgusting.
>>735557867this game is so much easier than StS1 its not even a comparison. really exposes how many sweat frauds there were playing StS1 for 3000 hours and learning nothing.
>>735558058Anything is better than fandom
>>735558058the price of letting nonwhites and women control your games communitiessecond link looks so soulful
>>735557404There's like two good forge cards and two playable forge cards (big bang doesn't count because the card would still be S tier even if it didn't forge and you only forge 5 once with it).And the best cards are only good because one blocks and the other one is a power that passively forges. The rest are quite fucking bad, low numbers or do nothing cards. The gameplan requires a high investment for low scaling, and you don't even have the time to replay the sword over and over anyway. If you can afford it then you could be raping with stars and scaling many times as quickly because stars are a resource you can spend on a variety of cards instead of putting all the eggs in one basket.Is it awesome? Yeah. But it's rarely the only thing your run should be doing in order to win.>>735557876>i'm starting to believe that event is bait.It absolutely is.
>>735554890>>735556490>>735556927>>735557204No matter how much you seethe over it, he's right, this is ambiguousAll the cards have ambiguous lighting which are open to interpretationThe sprite itself makes her look black IMO but he's not retarded for saying it's ambiguous, because it is
>>735558149orbit is great for starless decks.
>735558163b8
>>735558149that makes zero sense and fourth energy is very rare in this game.
>>735557876>20 minutesYou are already like 10 times better than me at this game you are just going way too fast for a higher winrate consistency. Pretty impressive to play that fast and make it to floor 40 on a10 with so many elite fights.
>>735558141>the curse doesn't even matter because most of the time it's a drop in the bucket in your 50+ card decksure but when you draw it it's a mandatory 13hp loss. unless your deck is very consistent in being able to transform/discard/exhaust cards every turn, which most arent.
>>735556690>goodInfinite nerfs. Dirge nerfs.Eels and decimilipedes.Regent buffs>badSkulking colony's new moveset.Doormaker's gimmickPrepared getting fucking removed.Defy getting thrown in the shitterByrdonnis buff.
>>735558285Just don't draw it, dummy.
>>735556430Am I chinese? If so, having had a hard time winning, I will leave a scathing review.
>>735554420thank god i'm not this retard
>>735557161str is a good thing to build for but you'll bleed out to attrition, as you saw, without something early to bolster your defense.
>>735558238>fourth energy is very rare in this gameWhich is what makes playing him so obnoxious, also Parry needs to give block at the end of every turn for keeping Blade in hand instead of just once when you play it.
>>735557876>Literally no Draw sans pommel >Doubles the card count anyway I mean... you need like 4 battle trance or something to offset that.
>>735558289defy+ was a crutch broken common with a boring effect. Why would this be good to have in the game?
why do you guys think you should have 80% winrates at A10? the game is brand new and you are retards. you shouldnt be winning at all. current balance state has zero longevity it is a disposable game when its this unimpressive to win.
>>735558207>posts a picture of black skin>"It's ambiguous".She doesn't have to be a north american pavement ape because it's a fantasy world but she is unambiguously black or dark brown.
I somehow made it but this shitty ass iron club griefed me more than it helped. It literally took a miracle Jackpot to not die to the last door and it all comes down to no energy generation offered
>>735558517>str is a good thing to build fori dont think i've won a single str build to be fair. spire 2 just lacks a ton of strength enabling cards from the first game. exhaust decks are also hard to get rolling without corruption in the normal pool. big large hitting attacks has worked the best for me.
Tear Asunder is fucking nuts. It scales well with so many build types, even incidentally, and can work fine on its own in many fights as enemy hits count as well.
>>735558717The str build isn't just multi hit cards, it's energy generation and whirlwind.
am i the only one who never remember the names of the cards so i'm completely lost whenever they are discussed without an image? i have 1000 hours of sts1 but couldnt tell you what 70% of the cards are called
>>735558682>win run>whine that game is too hard and unfairi dont understand this mentality
dis gon b gud
>>735558545Necro doesn't have much efficient block commons. Not very exciting or playable uncommons either Nerfing a character's "acrobatics" type card feels bad See also: "glow"
>>735558673yellow lighting
>>735558682Sounds like Iron Club let you limp to victory anon
I know we used to bitch about bad boss relics but the ancient rewards are so much worse.
>>735558905getting offered literal dogshit for act relics is something THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN and when it does its a sign of bad game design simple as
how does this nigga draw the perfect amount of block ever turn while simultaneously doing tons of damage? it's like we're playing completely different games
>>735558920glow made venerate worse just by existing.this is why card games nerf good cards instead of buffing bad cards. by nerfing the good shit you make all the bad shit indirectly better.
>>735559002the ancient rewards are by far the best thing about spire 2
>>735559013you are an absolute plebeian, why are you even playing on A10? nobody is impressed no one cares just play a baby game you'll actually enjoy
>>735558897you learn the names by discussing the game here or by watching streamers which I suspect most tryhards who do well at the game do
I am guilty of literally never taking block cards and removing all the starter blocks from my deck. I do this constantly and will never learn from my mistakes.
>>735558920the game is out 2 weeks and apparently glow and defy were foundational parts of the characters' identity, not just overtuned crutch commons.
>>735558962deranged cope. didn't change the color of the blades, hair, skull, or cloak.
>>7355530702 is nothing but a fucking cash grab. It should've just been a DLC.
>>735558962im too intelligent to be able to see it as black and blue. simple as
>>735559139it's a legitimate strategy on ironclad, but every other character needs block to avoid chip damage.
>>735559139i miss her like you wouldn't believe
>>735559195Ironclad resonates with my soul. Blocking is for pussies.
>>735559002I find them consistently more powerful than sts1 boss relics.
>>735559102cope more cunt. This dogshit balanced game you seem to blindly love so much is literally nothing but rng mixed with terrible balancing. At least the Chinese have a high enough iq to realise they are served dogcrap on a platter
Is this normal? First time playing a deckbuilding game
>>735559257yes, the balance IS dogshit, a drooling retard like yourself shouldnt be winning it is far too easy right now.
>>735559301It's okay anon, that's how I did with defect in this game
>>7355530701 was dogshit toomost pretentious new age millenial reddit games are lol i miss pre 2012 gaming manrealistically pre 2008shit is for fucking weirdos now
>>735559465you are an absolute loser my god.
>>735559420>>735559508go back to twitch
>>735559465yjk this loser owns a switch
>>735558682Those are some of my favorite wins. Always satisfying to just barely survive. Iron club can be really good for some runs don't write it off entirely. The counter persists between floors so you can set yourself up to draw extra on the first card you play and then again on the 5th.
>>735559508And this is over a run he won. Imagine the fit he'd be throwing if he actually lost.
How do I git gud?>avoid act 1 elites like the plague>focus on rest sites and ?s>draft good cards>focus on good block cards>remove strikes whenever able to>pivot into top archetype if offered good shit (hellraiser, voltaic, etc)Is that it?
games were better when I was younger and a happier person
>>735559595>avoid elites when they matter the mostthis is why you aren't goodtake every elite fight you can if you genuinely want to get good
>>735558673>>posts a picture of black skinWhether it's black or not depends entirely on the lighting, like every other depiction of her in the first StS. It's ambiguous.
>>735559034Pay attention to everything he does and say before drawing perfectly
>>735557404Its really good in co-op since you can sit and forge while your buddies do more work. There's even a card that gives the sword to the other players.
>>735559034Literally thinking several turns ahead with regards to what is the probability you will draw what you need weighed against your overall deck size i.e a 20 card deck will require 4 turns to draw through completely not accounting for cards that draw more when you play them. Why do you think he's constantly glancing at the draw pile as he plays?
>>735559693false. you fight one elite near the end of act 1, then avoid hard normal pools at all costs for the rest of the game (which usually means fighting elites). early A1 elites are way too dangerous unless you know you're ready.
>>735559693t. ascensionlet
>>735557220It makes rupture a lot less attractive to me. The scaling no longer wows me enough without being able to leverage it with reaper to really care for self damage as a build. As card choices sure, Bloodletting is always good to have, crimson mantle is amazing and blood wall is solid but that's not really a build so much as a set of good cards.
>>735559063Any vulnerable card vs bash Any lightning orb generator vs zapVenerate is bad because falling star is good. >>735559156>crutch common Basically staple cards that are always good to pick because they fill holes and counter threats Should Not Be in game? Why even print them? I guess you were mad ball lightning existed in sts1 because it was an insta pick in act 1? Delusional take. Discourse in general lacks all nuance in these threads. If you have ANY issue, complaint or thought about balance you are a trash player. Because this game is perfect, even though it is EA and is currently being in a balancing process. You are either For or Against. Peak gay internet
>>735559739I hate niggers because I do not hide from obvious reality. They're violent low iq criminals and everywhere there is a population of them sucks dick. For the very same reason I hate niggers, I hate YOU because you deny the very obvious reality that silent, a fictional video game character in a fantasy world, has dark skin. Get over it you spiritual NIGGER.
>>735559457is silent just bad or was I lucky winning my first game?
Skulking colony is broken. Thoughts?
>>735559837i'm a20 on every sts1 hero and am around 10 on 3
>>735559905Zap isn't that bad since it upgrades to a 0 cost
>>735559905at common? obviously not. notice how you had to qualify "in act 1" with ball lightning because it falls off later in the game while defy was a crutch every fight of every act. at common.
>paying to beta test Did they at least give you fags a discount?
>>735560051I've 6-streaked A20H ironclad so my cock is bigger than yours
>>735559993Silent is very strong. Just do sly cards with acrobatics or cloak and dagger and knife trap and you will be fine
>>735560139cope you're a pussy for not taking a1 elites
>>735560042Fucking hurts but he was essentially a free relic before the buffs so I don't mind so much.
>>735559256This. And there's a lot less poisoned apples to boot. I groan whenever I see the purple merchant guy trying to hawk me a "gain 1 energy, you must now accept anal fisting every turn" relic from the first game.
>>735560162I didn't understand half of that but ok
>>735560042is that the bee one? he's easyhunter killer is a normal that should be an elite lol
>>735560228Sly is a keyword for cards that play when discarded, acrobatics draws 3 then discards 1, easy combo. Cloak and dagger gives 6 block and a shiv, 2 if upgraded, knife trap replays every shiv you've played that fight. It's a rare card but also usually the best pick if you have any cards that make shivs
>Fiddle: At the start of each turn, draw 2 additional cards. You may not draw cards during your turn. Is this the most dogshit ancient option available? Why would anyone ever take this with how vital draw is as a mechanic?
>>735559984I already said her sprite makes it look like she's probably black, albeit only from carefully examining the tiny bit of hand that's poking out.But in every other depiction the ambiguous lighting means ambiguous skin color, hence that anon is right.And was so CONSISTENTLY ambiguous until now that I can only assume it was intended to be so. If she was supposed to be unambiguously black, then I would say that it's the developers who are retarded, because they did a terrible job of conveying it.
>>735560435if you have zero draw in your deck its insane. you have to look at where you're at.
>>735560498you remind me of the faggots that were assblasted when they realized the diablo 2 paladin was black. why do you care so much about the skin color of a character?
>>735560319This is the one that can only take a certain amount of damage per turn.
>>735560319sunken colony is ugly coralman in act1 docks that was buffed very hard on beta branch.
>>735560661>defending wokeslop
>>735560042I don't like him.
>>735560787man amigara fault got popular. mewgenics and sts2 both have references to it.
>>735560435It still works with other effects that trigger at the start of the turn for card draw.You can also put cards into your hand or create cards.I'm not saying it's great but that faggot has many trap options. Hate to see him.
>>735560661>you remind me of the faggots that were assblasted when they realized the diablo 2 paladin was blackNot comparable at all, that was obvious and I strongly suspect you're inventing people who were "assblasted" about it.>why do you care so much about the skin color of a character?I don't, I care about being accurate and it's accurate to say her skin color is (or at least was) ambiguous.The people who are denying that it was ambiguous for the entirety of the first StS are the ones who care about her skin color, they're fixated on their own interpretation of it. It's like that stupid fucking blue/black or white/gold dress
>>735560776>anything i don't like is wokefind me a game without any black characters, i'll wait.
>>735560714>>735560764oh ya i hate him but the 4 wrigglers with 6 shield are worse
>>735560931>I strongly suspect you're inventing people who were "assblasted" about it.there were a lot of people upset when d2r came out because they finally had to acknowledge the 4 face pixels in diablo 2 were actually depicting a black character.
>>735560070> Because necrobinder card pool is shallow as fuck and there's no good block options. Backflip is played throughout the game for a reason. I guess that needs to be nerfed as well. You're still lacking in nuance. Do you have a single thought about this game that isn't outright worship?
>>735560927>It still works with other effects that trigger at the start of the turn for card draw.Does that mean it would work with something like machine learning or the regent cards that draws extra on your next turn? That might make it a smidge more usable, still can't see myself ever willingly taking it.
>>735561052Then you're free to call those people retards, because it was always entirely obvious and there was zero room for ambiguity, unlike in this case.
w-what happens if you exhaust your entire deck?I'm on a A6 run and i'm scared
>>735561052In D2R he looked like an actual nigger, as in facial features. Dumb retards keep going on about skin color as if that's the only factor.
>>735561206It worked with machine learning but I don't know if it's a bug or a feature.I also don't know if it would work with Hellraiser + pommel strike for example.
>>735560498>the ambiguous lightning that didn't change the color of her hair, cloak, knives, or bandages definitely could've changed the color of her skinYou're a stupid nigger. It was never ambiguous.>that anonOkay, sure.
>>735561085I think Necrobinder needs a lot of work but if you think the class with death's door has no good defend options and that the class with debelitate should get infinite weak for free you just suck.
>>735561285You won't have any cards to play.
>>735561285you end turn
>>735561085> there's no good block options. Without rares, no upgrades, not to mention the summon mechanic:Death's Door, 3x6 block (if you applied doom)Negative Pulse 5 block 7 doom to ALL enemies (no reason to ever not play it)Grave Warden 8 block, adds Soul
>>735561285Then you click end turn until you die
>>735561285did something lead you to believe that that would be a good idea
>>735561407>conditional card >uncommon Not pickable. High chance you won't even see it, even when playing doom and actively looking for it. You're just a dishonest contrarian. You will never, ever concede a point on territory you have claimed- in this case Sts2 being a Perfect Game
>>735561570>>735561508I thought i would maybe get a rare but shitty desperation move card to add to the collection, like maybe a lose 2hp but deal 3 damage card
>>735561628Yes its contrarian to think the defy nerf is good. not like you with the bold chinabug hivemind take.
>>735561480What are you even talking about? Did you not follow the conversation? How are those cards existing equal Defy being a "crutch common" that is too good to stay untouched?
>>735561817You're a faggot too. Reddit normie racism won't make you fit in.
>>735560997AoE feels a lot more mandatory in this game compared to the first.In the first there were a lot of encounters where it was "nice to have" but it wasn't a run ender if you didn't as long as the rest of your build was solid.STS2 has like a dozen encounters whose entire design philosophy seems to be "didn't bring any AoE? Prepare your anus bitch".
Am I doing good as Ironclad?
>>735561902You're asking, how does listing necrobinder's good block options address the claim that necrobinder has no good block options?
>>735561329>the ambiguous lightning that didn't change the color of her hair, cloak, knives, or bandages definitely could've changed the color of her skinLol the shade of green on her cloak varies wildly with lighting and the shape of the knives isn't even consistent. Unless you're trying to argue that because those lighting shifts didn't magically turn her cloak bright yellow, the obvious ambiguity of her skin in different levels of poorly-defined lighting doesn't count? You've lost this one.But I'll throw you a bone: The card for dash makes it look like her sole has a different skin tone than her foot, so that's a fairly reliable indication of dark skin. One point against ambiguity.But also, the heel is basically white. Funny how lighting can completely change the perception of a person's skin, huh? But I guess that little detail is completely inexplicable to a person so ridiculously invested in denying the impact of lighting. In your mind, she must have just brushed up against a freshly-painted wall, right?>Okay, sure.shrug
>>735561962you're right, I'm nothing like you. scum.
>>735554420She was ambiguous but also anime brown, like dusky They made her into a tumblr potato for StS 2 though
>>735562294>Lol the shade of green on her cloak varies wildly with lightingshow me. Or show me a single card with any of these lightnings showing any skin of silent's that isn't brown. Nigger.
>>735562294>>735561329>>735560498>>735559984>>735559739she isn't black, she's like native or something, you guys are faggots, especially the one saying "albeit"all shartyfags should be banned on sight
the silent is hot
>>735562294>the heel is basically white>the part with bright light, including the bandage above it, is brighterWow so ambiguous
>Trying A9.>Keep dying to Elites>Ignore them.>Win.I don't think they're worth it, especially in act 2.
X2 Afterimage + Juggernaut is FUN
>>735562524the only place you see her face is in the timeline, once per playthrough for maybe 5 seconds while you aggressively click to skip.
>>735562858Every elite you kill in the second half of act 2 is a hallway fight with hunter killer that you avoided
>>735562889>34 max hp did the books fuck you up or did you spam upgrade your deck with that event at the start?
>>735562737Is this black?
>>735562294Didn't read. I want to lick this foot
>>735563017its the daily run. Every floor you climb you lose 1 max hp among other things
>>735562858this, but act 1.
>>735562294>The card for dash makes it look like her sole has a different skin tone than her foot, so that's a fairly reliable indication of dark skinYes, but the better indication of dark skin is the fact that HER FOOT IS CLEARLY DARK SKINNED IN THAT PICTURE YOU BRAINDEAD FAGGOT.Just admit that you lost the argument dude, this is fucking embarassing.
>>735562854>>the part with bright lightThat's the part I meant, I mistakenly called it the heel.But the point that you're ignoring (because you know you lost) is how white her skin looks under that light.Almost like brown skin can look white under bright light, and white skin can look brown under dark light, if you don't have adequate environmental cues to form a basis for comparison.Which is the entire point I was making, but you're the sort of retard who thinks your inability to understand something means it doesn't exist.>>735562746albeit
>>735560198Runic dome being gone is such a blessing
>>735563367>skin and the bandage above it are totally washed out by bright light>actual skin and bandage color are clearly visible on the part not harshly illuminated>"How can we possibly know what she looks like with such ambiguity?"
>>735563460is that the one that hides intent
>>735563337
>>735553070both games suck ass if you have agood run RNG will still ruin it.
>>735563595>namefag is a shittershocked
>>735563595you can win every time if you git gud enough
New Doormaker damage scales too much in multiplayer. Anyone feel the same?
>>735563696lol
>>735563519Yes and technically it's not a downside if you memorize every single enemy pattern but in practice it means being a giga autist or playing with the wiki open
>>735562338Tell me a single critique you have of this marvelous game. Can you even concede one thing being bad? Or is everyone else just wrong and bad and trash
>>735563714bosses that scale off of player action are way, way harder in multiplayer. if you can't wipe phase one experiment early, skill use will have the same effect as card draw vs. the doormaker. Enemies have increases to hp and shield generation in multiplayer, but not damage, for a reason.
>>735562737Large variations in cloak and skin tone. The hand in "Cloak and Dagger" easily passes as white.>>735563337>he still doesn't understand lightingYou're all unfamiliar with how white skin can look under dark lighting conditions, and that realization is hilarious
>>735557404Bulwark and Beat into Shape are goodThe sword itself is kinda bad is the problem. Decent enough to end a fight with but basing your whole deck around it blows most of the time.
>>735563802The biggest problem with the game is that events are way too good which makes the game much easier and act 2/3 pathing is entirely reduced to dodging hard pool fights, which are just much worse than everything. Card pool balance is far too complicated to make conclusions about but silent is slop and feels like a parody of spire1 silent.
>>735564105>bright green in bright light>dark green in shadowy lightThe hand in cloak and dagger doesn't easily pass as white, you're simply a blind nigger. She's brown in every card you posted. Thanks for putting together an image that disproves your own argument.
>>735563475>actual skin and bandage colorAccording to your perception in this lighting.
>>735564254That image isn't in a vacuum, the brown skin and light bandage color are consistent with the rest of her depictions.
pomf! what are we going to do on the regal pillow?
>nuked defy>nuked borrowed time>Pull Aggro is still 2 cost for some reason>exhaust on fucking dirge Meanwhile in Megacrit HQ
She's brown.
>>735564370+15 hp
How the fuck do you play ironclad in this game? I win like 80% of my runs with every other character, but whenever I play ironclad I either die act 1, or die on the act 3 boss because he doesn't scale like any of the other characters can.
>>735564403That's StS2, not canon
>>735563802It's a personal gripe, but any mechanic that limits how many cards you can play in some way is aids. I get why it's there and what not but i hate it and Queen and her stupid dog. Preventing the player from playing in a PVE game always feels shitty.
>>735564403that means we can end the white race together
>>735564403Maybe she isn’t actually brown but this drawing is done from the perspective of a person with a rare visual impairment that causes light colors to appear murky? I mean, we just can’t know. This is just like my Japanese cuckold pornography.
>>735563794>technically it's not a downside if you memorize every single enemy patternDo you wail on the second turn of the heart fight?
I have refunded the game over 200 times after the beta to counteract the non-refunders.
>>735564403Yoruichi brown. Like in my animesWe've gone over this before >>735564175Alright. I accept that. I can concede i was a little hot headed in there
>>735564175to detail what I mean by slop, acrobatics was maybe the strongest common in the game in spire1 and decks would run fiur to five copies and then they printed ten cards (all the new slys, corrosive wave, speedster) that reward you for playing acrobatics. just bizarre.
>>735564485Think less, unga more
>>735564240>>bright green in bright light>>dark green in shadowy lightYes, that's how lighting works. Congratulations on finally grasping the concept.>The hand in cloak and dagger doesn't easily pass as white, you're simply a blind nigger.You've never seen white skin in shadow and this continues to be hilarious.Aside from the sole color in Dash, Leg sweep is probably the best argument for her being black, since the cloak suggests that the lighting isn't super dark there.But it also reveals that the skin tone is inconsistent across cards even when accounting for lighting, so we're back to it being ambiguous.
>>735564403Anime brown is fine. Blackest gorilla nigger is not.
>>735553070because it's not finished. It took them a long early access process to work on everything, the good thing is that they experiment to work towards a better game and nothing is set in stone until they find the right balance.
>>735564563I get aggro online for fun, I was ofc being terribly excessive at you
both are mid with not as much replay value, unless you are autistic and love to repeat the same things 100s timesand thats exactly the reason new game is rated lower - its too samey, most people wanted truly new game
I want to HAVE SEX with BLACK GORILLA SILENT.
>>735564308> the brown skin and light bandage color are consistent with the rest of her depictions.Except for the ones that look wildly different.
>>735564693You don't. On top of making her black they gave her monkey pox.
what if silent was a lolibaba
>>735564586>s probably the best argument for her being blackis her skin being some shade of brown every single time we see it.>inconsistentit's never non-brown>ambiguousambiguously brown
>>735564808Next game they'll give her a cock and shills will claim it was always supposed to be a tranny.
>>735564847wtf i'm no longer racist
>>735564698>wildly differentEvery depiction of her with visible skin shows that skin as being brown, anon.
>>735564953every depiction shows her in the dark with sharp lighting
>>735564105>her right arm in Piercing Wail looks white, and you think that it's just the palm being a lighter shade but then you look behind her and see the whole arm is lighterHer skin color is totally not ambiguous or inconsistent though
>>735564847This would triple the sales
>>735565045Her skin is either some shade of brown, or completely washed out along with whatever else harsh light is hitting, but the skin that's not totally washed out is brown in every iteration. She was simply always a brown character.
>>735564847I think we should put some pressure on the dev to make it a reality.
>>735565230i don't want your pedobait, thanks.
>>735564664I've been playing a bit of the first one and while it's fun I don't understand how some people have 1000+ hours in it, I'm sure there's good build variety but at its core it's always the same shit, the same enemies, the same simplistic progression
>>735564953It shows skin that looks dark in dark lighting, and even in that darkness the depictions are inconsistent and some of them are borderline white, or at least mediterranean. Without greater context as to lighting, or points of comparison, her real skin tone is difficult to discern from StS1. Hence the ambiguity. Like I said, the different color on the sole is probably the best indicator. But then, it seems that her hands don't follow the same trend.
>>735565391did you beat a20 heart? if not you haven't seen what people like about it. It becomes oddly relaxing, you dive in and see if you can bend the rng into what you need.
>big guys get 10+ winstreaks on A10>I had to fail like 20 times each floor to finally reach A10Am I retarded or these niggas have special gameclients with better RNG?
>>735565491There's no bright lightning where her skin doesn't look brown.
>>735565529After watching some of them play, it seems like the secret is to take 5 minutes on every single turn where you're not guaranteed to end the fight
you can see her face in her standing imageshe is very dark skinned
>>735565503no I haven't gotten that far yet but I see, it becoming the kind of comfort game you do a run in to wind down at the end of the day makes sense if you really like it
>>735559595>avoid act 1 elites like the plagueAnd this is why you suck, among other things.I watched this guide, it's a pretty good breakdown:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCh7P7O6NqM
>>735565645That could just be the lighting, or the shadow from her skull, or from an artistic choice to depict a light-skinned person as darker than they are. We just can’t know.
ironclad is the worst character, I can clear easy with the others
>>735565160>I looked at someone on a pitch black street and he didn't look white so he must have been blackI agree that, even absent StS2, evidence leans towards her being brown, but there's still a lot of ambiguity and inconsistency and pretending there isn't makes you a faggotIf she was supposed to be UNAMBIGUOUSLY brown the developers are retarded for failing to convey it
>>735565529>memorize enemy patterns>check draw pile every single turn>think for 4 minutes before even playing a single card>calculate damage two turns aheadFuck that.
>>735565645>bright eyesUnequivocally not black
>>735565734there's a visible shadow from her skull as well. Are you saying there's two shadows?
>>735565556There is no bright lighting that isn't so harsh as to wash out all detail, but there are instances of dark lighting where her skin looks very light.The depictions were inconsistent, anon.
>>735565789We just can’t be certain.
>>735565645The face means nothing under the shadow of that skull. The bit of hand that you can see makes her seem black though.
>>735565734>the lightningdidn't affect the skull or cloak?>shadowvisibly cuts off just below the eye>artistic choice to depictsilent as brown, yes, the artists devised silent as a brown character and depicted her as such. There's no art that depicts her as anything but brown. You have to be baiting, it's my fault for taking it.
>>735565993>visibly cuts off just below the eyeIt's one shadow that's deeper around the eyes. There's still shadow on the face. A skull helmet like that, at that angle, wouldn't cast a shadow only on the eyes.
Necrobinder is black.
>>735565776she's not a negress she's just dark skinned, a ton of anime characters are like that and it's usually pretty hot
>>735565774>check draw pile>check map>repeat every 10 secondsOne of the reasons I hate watching Jorbs. Jesus fuck man you have 2 cards in your draw pile stop looking at it.
>>735566081im still getting that bonejob
black people can't make their own games without either being sportslop or DEI flops so now they constantly have to claim other game's characters as their own race or have white knights do it for them
>>735566129I think it's muscle memory at this point, I doubt he is even doing it consciously. It's like looking in the mirrors before you change the lane.Or for gayming analogy looking at the minimap and checking worker production in StarCraft every .5s
>>735553070Is it really that bad?
>>735565774you don't really need to be doing all that to just have a 50% win rate while climbing ascensions. except the think about every card thing. you gotta do that and eventually that'll lead you to the other stuff but you're not gonna win if you don't at least start thinking. calculating damage and block for every turn and considering the enemy patterns is for a10 win streaks and you don't have to be anywhere close to that to be better than an abysmal 5% win rate which just suggests you aren't thinking at all about your card picks or pathing or what you play in combat.
StS1 was good largely on accident, it just managed to hit a sweet spot in balance and game design, and the mistake that is watcher only proved this. StS2 is an entire game of people testing out pressure points and scry decks and divinity and omega for a couple months before everyone eventually figures out how to build the wrath deck right.
>>735553070metagamed to fuckstrong builds get nerfed within hours, weak cards stay bad foreverthey obviously balanced it around co-op
i hope she gets ported to 2 when it comes out of early access
>>735566653CUTE
I only now realized that the Silent card Flying Knee has Ironclad in the art.8000 hours in the game btw.
>>735566643>they obviously balanced it around co-opno, they are not. multiplayer is x10 easier if everyone know what they're doing.I've never lost a single run with my friends on discord call, one of them is completely new to a deck building game. we're on A8 right now.
>>735567383Yeah one of my most recent runs was a friend that had like 11 piercing wails on his deck while we bukkakked all over every encounter, it was mental.It's still really fun but the game is super easy on multiplayer, it's for shits and giggles on screaming your lungs out with your pals on voicecall.
>>735567383my first run of this game was also on multiplayer and i've never lost a multiplayer run. some of my friends say multiplayer is harder but they do duo runs a lot more and thats probably harder than normal multiplayer runs.
>>735556130People keep saying this but it seems kinda just blatantly untrue to meNot having act 4 yet is a big difference and Ironclad in particular is in a weird place balance wise but STS2's basic content is definitely harder than 1's and nothing in 1 comes anywhere near putting Clone on an Adrenaline or something and going into the act 3 boss with 70 copies of it in your deck in terms of extreme power level.
>Got a Prep Time at the start which gives +6 damage to the first card each turn.>Got Vaaku's music box, which gives you a copy of the first attack each turn.>Got pic relatedI'll never say your relics are trash again Vaaku.
>>735566643you're supposed to metagame it. thats the point of the game that its still fun and challenging even when you metagame it.
Finally, after all this time losing on defect yesterday, I played a run today with defect on beta A10 that I think was the most broken build I have ever done.>All for one deck with 3 copies of AFO>2 copies of adapted strike enchanted with Draw 3>double energy and Turbo+>Scrawl>Automation>play a million cards on turn 1 and get a million energy>mfw I delete both Act 3 bosses on turn 1 (sorta because doormaker is an asshole)easily my most broken run ever in both games and it happened on this barbed-wire-in-the-ass beta, i am so happy, what a fucking runonly one problem is i forgot to record that shit, that should have made for a sick webm
>>735567591StS2 A10 is much easier than StS1 A20 even ignoring heart. It is 3 weeks post-release and people have 15-streaked, that took years for anyone to do in StS1. You just dont know the meta yet.
Regent mod got updated and now it has animations everywhere including camp
>>735567854did not ask
didn't ask for the opinion of butthurt trannies either
>>735567854my trans friends will LOVE this
>>735567903>>735567976damn sis, you're still seething about coomers? Surprised you haven't killed yourself yet
>>735553070https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17ZQDBTEVVhttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17ZQDBTEVVhttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17ZQDBTEVV
>>735567961>tannifies one of the characters>calls others tranniesWhat causes this?
>>735567832There's a few reasons for that, and the biggest one is just that most characters could just go infinite in act 2 and then take the easiest path to the boss and not risk anything, with infinites largely nerfed in the beta that's much less true. And not having act 4 makes all the other acts way easier because you don't need to take risks to stay above the power curve, once you can beat the act 3 boss(es) you've won the run as long as you can get there, which is why the top players basically only ever lose to extreme low rolls in act 1, there's no reason to take risks you aren't forced into past that. If you compare the fights to each other directly Sts2 definitely seems higher power level on average, it's other influences making the game as a whole easier, including at least outside the beta how insanely easy it is to go infinite or pseudo infinite every run
>>735567854uwu so cute
>>735568203dishonest people always accuse others of what they're guilty of, thus the "the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you" saying. trannies are just porn addicts (can't play a game without something that sexually excites them in it) and addicts are as dishonest as they come.
>>735568203>What causes this?autismI'm pretty sure your autistic rage at the sight of anime girls is a rough case of untreated or undiagnosed autism
>>735567854post link to the mod
>>735568051I still remember those meltdowns from weeks ago. Crazy that the tranny from then is still seething over coomers lmao.
Wake me up when they port the BE/lactation character mod from sts1
>>735568426My autism is diagnosed though
>>735568537It's on the patreon of some dude called anaertailin and costs like $2I'd love to give you a direct link but nobody has leaked it yet though Koreans keep posting about it on almost a daily basis
>>735564847how would her personality even work as a lolibaba you fucking retard
>>735568303has nothing to do with infinites I die in act1 act2 much more in a20 spire than I do in A10 StS2 and I've played that game for seven years.
>>735568719as soon as it gets leaked, pls post it
>>735568303All I see is top players going on really bad loss streaks. Baalor has a few bad losses yesterday on beta patch. Definitely not an easier game with current patch.
>>735568793you think the pedotrannies care at all about the source material when they make their pedo shit?
>>735568846If you want to watch someone play the game well watch NaveGreed everyone else is bumbling around and whining.
>>735568994Fell on his stream the other day and yeah he was crushing his runs. I like his approach to deckbuilding, maybe I leveled up watching him because as I said earlier I was on a massive losing streak then won today. Overall I think the default is to massively struggle though and the game is imo much harder and volatile than the first entry. Didn't see top players lose that often in the first entry compared to this one.
>>735568832>someone advertising their own patreon is definitely going to share leaks!
>>735568057Let's go door dude, the beta one would've lost
>>735553070Was playing with a friend and I'm kinda in the wrong here, but holy fuck. We were in act 1 up against the owlbear enemy, both as the silence. He had 3hp, I had 1 and died turn 1 and he took I think 1 hit, so he had 2hp. I quit, so he got pissed off at me and said he coulda killed it. Nigga it does like 20 damage a turn and he goes up, on top of all the other shit. He had a lot of energy, but even if he popped every defensive card, there's no way he coulda beaten it. Even if he did, we still had the rest of the level. Like I just didn't wanna waste time on a hopeless endeavour.
>>735569191If I was advertising the dudes patreon then I would have linked the payment page directly instead of indirectly suggesting someone leaks it or pirates itIf it gets leaked then I'd definitely post it and share it though because it means /v/ sts threads would have more cute girls and female regent to look at, I'm just letting people know that it exists.
>>735569319act 3, sorry.
>>735568994That guy takes 39 minutes per turn. When he opened the draw pile for the 7th time after a clear case of defeat I screamed I DONT NEED THIS IN MY LIFE and blocked his stream. Cringe inducing.
>>735569157people were SO bad at StS1 pre-Lifecoach. the ironclad streak was 5. collectively we'll never be quite that bad at StS2, but imo game is so new that we should be worse than we are.
>>735569320>this is a black woman according to MegaCrit shills
>>735569068I've seen the follow up image to this one.
>>735569416his StS2 runs are never over an hour, he's a ridiculously fast player, by far the fastest good at the game streamer. he was slow on StS1 recently because he was on a 30-streak rotating there.
>>735569387>i- he's on patreon, here's my- his name.>google doesn't exist so this isn't advertising, because I didn't include my- his link.
>>735569512*tanned
>>735569571So how would someone buy it and leak it for the rest of the thread without knowing where to get it?
>the cumbrain is the one shitposting about silent's skinsimply not surprised
>>735569650watch out here's a feet jumpscareyou're going to need your meds to survive this one
silent is the most whitewashed character of all timeits funny how secretly racist troons are
If you had just hidden the post and continued like normal then anons wouldn't have suddenly started posting anime art just to trigger your autistic assBut I guess it's not easy to do that when you have crippling autism dictating your every action
>>735569814apparently it takes thinking your own gender is ambiguous to consider silent's skin color ambiguous
>>735569874>if someone dislikes my post I will dedicate my morning to reacting to that person. also YOU are autistic
I think Regent might soon pass Silent in terms of art because holy fuck there is SO MUCH art of mesugaki regent
>>735569441I'm not talking about how bad people were at STS1. I just think if you compare the two games, beta A10 is harder than A20H. But yeah it's crazy how much people have improved over the years. I haven't played as much as these people but it's instantly obvious how much better they became. Sometimes I think to myself what would have become of my life if i just became a STS streamer instead of my career kek
>>735569973Like all addicts, porn addicts are extremely egotistical and easily offended. They have entire boards to discuss what they want to jerk off to but one guy expressing a lack of interest in a porn mod set this one off on an enduring melty.
Because you suck at it
>>735570134>beta A10 is harder than A20H."No!"
>>735569320I'd put infinite blades inside her cloak and dagger if you know what I mean
So are you going to samefag yourself for the entire morning and continue sperging out in third person about le porn addicts or are you going to talk about the game?
>>735570445Somehow you get more pathetic with every post you make. Here's another one, necro flavored this time!
>pick card>next combat get same card but upgraded>don't need two copies
>>735570913I actually like that one, the menacing osty point makes me smile.
Well that was fun.
I think the main aspect that made STS1 so deep and replayable was the balancing between taking frontload to not die now and scaling to deal with the lategame bosses. This is gone now because scaling was removed or severely gutted. Now you just have good cards and bad cards and trying to take the former.
>>735568719Why the fuck this dude make a perfectly fine Regent girl, but his Ironclad is just some random ass anime bitch that looks nothing like Ironclad?
>>735571305act 1 is more brutal in sts2 than 1, you still have to take decent commons to keep you alive long enough to get a deck with better, rarer cards online. Some cards are pretty overtuned but that's what early access is for. Did you get into sts1 recently or something?
For me it's>Slay the Spire 1>relics have a punch to them when you can have to risk for them when the opportunity comes up>lucky to get/make a broken build where you just delete enemies halfway through act 2, maybe end of act 1 if lucky>can still get your shit kicked in if order played wrong>Slay the Spire 2>50/50 chance by end of act 1 you get cards to break a build>relics literally everywhere>lots of "enemy is going to just going to sit here next turn kid so sorry you fucked up your last hand try again!"
>>735553070exterminate+akabeko was my win condition :Vfelt like playing ww ironchudit was nice to delete corridor niggas in 1 turn
Yes I also thought A0 was easy guysbalance talk is all A10 though
>>735571435>act 1 is more brutal in sts2 than 1Sts2 is just aim for ?'s and you'll get a dozen artifacts or card upgrades without issue
>>735571423idk bro I just know he has a very good regent mod and thats itKoreans have also made an anime art mod that replaces the card art with anime girls but note the huge AI disclaimer on the page since they're not hiding ithttps://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=slay&no=266479&search_head=90&page=1
>>735571564those artifacts are less impactful and ? rooms will give you fewer card choices than fights.
>>735571564>Going for ?tell me you're an A0 shitter without telling me you're one
status defect... good? But all of the pros told me it's bad!
Dipping my toes into StS2 content now that I've hit my arbitrary goal of A8 with every character, and I don't know who to trust>XecnarSeems based, but I can't understand a word this motherfucker says and it looks like he only streams>JapaneseExportIt seems like he confidently over- and underrates some cards, relics, etc., but seems fine.>JorbsSeems like a covert narcissist who huffs his own farts while talking down to his chat.Any recommendations?
all the silent fan art needs to be updated, silent isn't mulatto, she's middle of midnight in the heart of sudan black, she's the darkest corner of the universe black, she's the pigment that light cannot escape vantablack black
>>735572002I did exactly one status Defect run and it was by far the most time I spent on single turns. Just an endless conveyor belt of status cards, draw, and energy all churning out orbs so you don't even need to actually use cards to attack / block.
>>735572040Silent is a pile of shivs that merely pretends to be a woman.
>>735569512>>735572040Why are people even getting assmad? Silent's skin tone isn't even consistent. Her sprite, the memory slides, her cards, and the game's trailer depict in a wide variety of tones. Just pick the one you like best like all the people making fan art are doing and move on.
Lads, how do I regentUnless I the first elites on my way get hard countered by my early rewards, my regent gets fucking floored or health taxed into oblivion
>>735572203i’m horny for especially dark women and want her to be drawn darker to suit my preferences
>>735572203she's the type of black where in the sunlight if certain conditions are right the gleam off her looks purple
>>735572203a reasonable variety of brown tones. off model fanart has always been a thing, who cares that silent is canon brown?
>beat the elephant>rewards>afterimage>tracking>grand finalkewhat's the play here?
>>735572312always afterimage
>>735572006>Seems like a covert narcissist who huffs his own farts while talking down to his chat.LIFEGAWDS WE KEEP OWNING JORBS LMAO
>>735572002Why would you listen to anyone except the heart of the cards?
>>735572342NIGGU I PICKED TRACKINGTYPE FASTER NEXT TIME U DUMB WHORE
Game's in EA and barely a couple weeks out and I'm already dooming because of posts like >>735571453. Aieeeee, someone tell me everything'll be alright.
>>735572442good choice if you can keep the enemy weak constantly
>>735572002>get two compact>status generating cards don't show up for the rest of the runat least I'm not gambling real money, just my youth and life
>>735572460the post you quoted is a retard's take on the current state of the game and is extra retarded for not taking into account that the game will change significantly during ea. take a break nigger, come back later and it'll be different.
>>735572579>Get compact>Status cards never show up in the same drawThat feels even worse.
>>735572674This, how is compact even supposed to work?
>>735572674Umm your Flak Cannon?
>>735571605Trying to use this with all the links he had and read through the shitty firefox page translation. Why are some of my cards black?
Is there a file i can edit or something to unlock a10 on all characters rather than having to grind?
>>735572002The pros say it's bad?? But it's free orbs / damage
>>735572908no ideamodder likely hasn't updated it to latest update is my guess
>>735572994Shame
>>735571663It doesn't matter because with the amount you get can just steamroll any build you want. >>735571715Play the game at least, even watching a few streamers it's not just a me take on that.
>>735571715you are a retard. so many strugglesweats trying to path 3 elites in act 1 and saying game harder than StS1 when it is insanely obvious that one elite act 1 is the correct choice if you look at risk/reward of events vs elites. use your brain you addled out of date metaslave.
>>735572994>[/spoiler]git gud
>>735572937It’s a simple text file in your save
>>735553070Modded STS will be way better than STS 2 for at least a few years
>godly status defect deck, get all of the status deck cards>so high on hubris I decide to flak cannon the dune worm and speedrun the fight>get vored, wasn't even close
>>735572984>Finally, I'm going to finish with the beta art of snake bites, which I'm considering whether to actually apply.>The beta update was faster than I thought, so I ended up finishing what I had created and uploaded it.>I think you’ve made me feel better than expected. Thank you.I'll check non-beta, but considering he said this at the bottom of the page it seems like this was released for the beta...
>>735573147>>735573187yeah im a fucking retardbut the point is regent sucks right now if youre not building stars and i have no desire to play him until they buff him
>>735573187>>735572994>>735573275Yeah just give up on the joke
>>735573197as someone who made mods for sts1 sts2 modding is moving pretty fast and workshop is coming out in a monthit's probably gonna take a while but I'm watching closely
>>735573261idk I'm just giving you my guesswhat normally breaks mods is new updates and beta changed how mods work so it's the most likely thing
>keep forgetting i have pantograph and waste the campfire before the boss>keep forgetting I have orichalcum and keep wasting energy on a defend>keep forgetting about diadem and dying to attacks i would have blocked entirely had i played 1 less card
>>735573116Link me to any streamer that goes for massive ?s path and isn't lose streaking, I fucking dare you>>735573132Going for ? is the best way to fast forward yourself to a loss, retard. It is THE noob take to think paths including a lot of them are good. You will die wondering why you died and why your build didn't come online and that's because you are a noob who is too much of a pussy to even path into hallway fights and too much of a retard to understand the deckbuilding mechanics of this game
>>735573116>get a bunch of relics that are weak or don't benefit your buildi don't think you play sts2 or 1.
>>735572470it's pretty comfy, with
>>735572994Forge is pretty good already if you ignore all the dogshit commonsI don't know how you're supposed to make colorless shit work without highrolling an early discovery though
Are you as good as Reddit?
>>735573398Asmon, RTgame, vinesauce.Seriously we are talking braindead streamers here who misclick and play through basic chat messages rather than reading or thinking and still manage to reach the next ascension.>>735573404sts2 literally has options to pay like 100 gold for 3 relics or lose 30hp for 3 relics. The amount of relics that work together to OP a build by the end of act 1 is insane compared to sts1.In the first one getting relics had a punch and were fewer meaning you had to pay far more attention to deckbuilding and order. Sts2 literally throws you a ton of gibs and allows far more mistakes because your relics and potions are OP as shit for the quantity you stumble across.
>>735554420nigga u is dumb
>>735573116post your victorious high ascension runs
>>735573398you are repeating spire1 nonsense because all you know how to do is take instructions from a youtuber. events afe broken in StS2. They give you relics. they give you cards. they give you upgrades. they give you removes. they give you transforms. try paying attention to what actually happens in your runs some time instead of forcing 3elites or death act1 every run like a monkey.
>>735573567Fake, has almost triple the losses than me in the same playtime
>>735554420i can't believe people spent hours arguing with a guy who gave away he was baiting this early>>735573651post your runs
>>735573187>>735572994
>>735555314Collecting Artifacts and hoping for cool bonuses is somehow very addicting.
>>735573695He's dying earlier, then
>>735573651>that spacingyou know what you must do
>>735572872You take a bunch of card draw to make them line up. Itteration, skim, coolheaded, rocket punch, and stuff like that. And dince you're including that much card draw it naturally pairs well with defect's other 0 cost cards.
>>735572216They've got really good cheap defends like Cloak of Stars/Gather Light/Patter to make due until you find one of their strong uncommon/rare cards. Then you can cycle with Cosmic Indifference/Photon Cut or minions.I haven't really had any luck with the cards that buff colorless, but vigor is kind of underrated with how many of his win condition cards are multi-hits.
>>73557383299% of /v/ are redditors. If all of them went back there would only be racists left that try to turn every thread into /pol/, and only because they got banned from Reddit.
I like that the game is essentially open source
I'm 48 hours in and there's still relics and rare cards I've never even seen.
>>735573918>They've?
>>735572937go to \AppData\Roaming\SlayTheSpire2\steam\<YOUR STEAM ID>\settings.savefind fps_limit and add a line under it that says "full_console": true,open the game and type unlock all
>>735574060You end up unlocking them all at about 100 hours.
>>735573990It's practically the best possible publicity Godot could have gotten.
>>735573567this is not possible
>>735557867This, elites are supposed to push your shit in so that's a given, but normal fights also shred you in STS2. I'd even say I would rather fight certain elites over certain normal encounters. An act 1 normal encounter hitting for 25+ damage in one turn is fucking idiotic.
>>735573398>Going for ? is the best way to fast forward yourself to a loss, retardDo you not know the vast amount of options they give compared to STS1? They are overly generous to the point of making builds full on cheese.>>735573691>events afe broken in StS2I can't tell if people never played sts1 or just "watched" sts1 and first spire game is 2. When I see shit like, have 5 cards upgraded, oh want no curses? the option is just pay 50 gold kek, how about 999 gold on runs being a common event!
>>735573980i have lived to see the day where /v/ is defending reddit
>>735573463>>735572470free win
>>735574202on the off chance you're not samefagging, a faggy redditor is defending reddit.
>>735571435>act 1 is more brutal in sts2 than 1its really more that act 1 is more solved in sts1. People know exactly which block and attack cards are and arent good in what situations, and that data just isnt there for STS2 yet. If you are defect on floor 2, and you picked ball lightning floor 1, and your second card pool is boost away, charge battery, and leap, which one do you take? which one is better for which elites? in STS1 (lets say steam barrier instead of boost away) its an easy skip, charge battery is the best of the three but it actively harms you in 2/3 elites and in lagovulin it barely helps compared to having orbs. In sts2, I dunno, maybe floor 2 leap is actually correct?
>>735574202/v/ isn't one person and I am not defending them. I am calling you all redditors. Including myself.
>>735574480i do not have a reddit account and have never made one, shit people always rationalize their behavior by assuming others are like them. Go back.
>>735574462It's Charge Battery. Charge Battery is such a comfy act 1 card in sts2, literally never felt bad about taking it.
>>735574131I've played 100 hours and still haven't seen snecko once
>>735573980this isnt fair, if the redditors went back then /pol/ would be usable again instead of the board being filled with entire pages of dozens or more near-identical threads of redditors restating the same headline in cruise control, with attached picture of either a twitter post or a photo of trump looking down captioned "its over", and the people who want to meaningfully talk about racism could be able to do it in peace.
>>735574850bro he's saying "i'm from reddit and my fellow redditors want to /pol/ you he he he!" you're speaking to an obvious falseflag shitposter
>>735572216The star economy is the trickiest thing. I'd start with cards that do two things (attacks and defends that create stars), and try to build a synergy with your best card at any given time.
>>735574189They give you good options, but the options can also brick your run, and more importantly, do fucking nothing which is the average case. The cases where ? are good is if you're on act 2/3 and already cruising because this is when you possibly could make a broken combination with the events. If you go for events early you are a shitter retard and you are not playing on A10.
>>735574739Darv has a lot of relics but seems to offer pyramid over and over. Which you know I cant really complain.
>>735574182yeah lol, hunter killer for example should be an elite, it's harder than most of the elites in that act
>>735573695It's like 15 mins per run. He must be dying to the first elite every time or he's just shitposting. The latter is more likely.>>735574087They really should add kino placeholder art for everything with a toggle like they did in STS1>>735574963>you're speaking to an obvious falseflag shitposterIs this your first day on /v/?
The other two cards offered all suck ass but I feel like this one is a beast considering Im literally playing skills silent.
>>735574739you think thats bad? I have restarted act 1 75 FREAKING TIMES just to get that fucking feeding frenzy event. I gave up i couldnt take it anymore it just never appears EVER
>>735575020act 1 events are a free mr struggles. rickety bridge which is a much better slime goop. remove 1 or upgrade 2 totally for free. go on a "side quest" and gain 150 gold for 15hp. two out of five commons. none of these are highroll events that is a standard assortment of act1 events, and then you get to upgrade at every rest site.
>>735574087I love the way the Regent is characterized
>>735575130Why not just do a custom game?
>>735574739I’ve seen it a lot as Defect.
>>735575207how would that help? its not like i can get it to magically spawn
>>735575087I think I agree. I think swapping Hunter Killer with Infested Prism and tweaking their stats accordingly would be best, because Infested Prism is just a free fight 90% of the time.
I bought golden axe as Necrobinder and tried to build a deck that spammed souls to increase its value, but I got tricked into not using it because is upgrade is retain.>look at golden axe in hand>deals 15 damage>not yet...>deals 27 damage>not yet...>deals 53 damage>okay next turn it one shots>*dies*
>>735575020you are carrying preconceived notions from STS1 where gold is worth a meaningful fraction of a relic or a card remove. in STS2 you will never buy relics and every class is ironclad and doesnt need card removes, shops are worth far less than a floor.
>doesn't need card removeslolwut?
>>735575130It only appears after you have a certain amount of gold I'm pretty sure
>>735575023Darv's dusty tome and his 4 energy relics are weighted to show up half as often as other choices, so you'll see more pyramids than them. Also 2 of his energy relics are act 2 exclusive and the other 2 are act 3 exclusive.
>>735575196>>735575359screenshot of your last run, nowI want the shitters on this fucking thread to LEAVE
>>735575327You can if you used a seed
>>735575494That makes sense! Ty for explaining
>>735575464well it doesnt matter now anyway. Still so annoying that after 120 hours i havent even come close to seeing all the items and events. Look at this shit. How is it possible that i havent seen these relics and keep in mind i go out of my way to pick garbage if its new just to unlock it
Those are some sexy cards
>>735575451NTA but the game allows a lot more free card removal options through the map events and the low amount of drops from events is pretty night and day. In 1 curses cand normality cards can drop like nothing to where they can destroy your run without diving for shops.
>>735575520Why do you think you know anything about anything? like where does this certainty come from? just mindboggling.
>>735575852Now I'm thinking, how brokken would be a momentum make it so card
>>735573327It was the beta. Stupid koreans
>>735554826Its on sale. I bought 1 yesterday and started playing it fir the first time. Pretty fun. Ill get 2 in like 3 years maybe when its on sale
>>735576345Beta changed how mods work and the mod format so the mod developer likely hasn't updated mod to newest formatI believe they posted a way to "fix it yourself" in the same forum under the mods section if you want to look for it since it's not like there's many topics in there
>>735576001>not on beta patchthat's what I thoughtfuck you
In Act 1, if I take the path with the least enemies and elites, I usually win. If I ever try to take an elite before a rest site, it's insta-lose.
Anyone down for a game? Betasteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243804859296/76561199486452220
>>735575852Make it so is the strongest with the "gets 5 attack every time you play this", it basically breaks the card and becomes all the scaling you need to win, so strong.Still, really cool.
>>735556843bro ive been in situation where im desperate for energy and i was up for ANYTHING resembling getting energy and the game simply didnt gave any AT ALL. and yes, i looked at events, i looked at shops, i even looked at ur mom's puss puss and the game simply wouldnt offer me mana and then next run i get offered energy 3 times and no AoEits really fucking annoying
>>735576468Pretty much thisAct 1: get events for relics and upgrades being freeAct 2: upgrade cards/purchase anything lackingAct 3: steamroll it
>>735576468no you have to take 50 damage from phrog parasite asap and be behind the whole act. trust me i know things.
>>735576468average ascension of your runs?
>>7355765652/4
>>735576839I'm only on 5 right now on Silent and Necro. 6 on Defect.
>>735576839lol strugglesweat panicking that he's wasted his life throwing dozens of runs forcing A1 elites in StS2 for no reason. PvE narcissism kino
>>735576893I'll give it 5 minutes for anyone to join then start.
>>735577054i avoid early elites. People who play on low ascensions are simply not qualified to offer advice.
ok, I'm fucking dogshit, I don't think my brain is wired to play these type of games. See you guys playing some braindead gacha or whatever
>>735577153i had so many runs on a10 of killing 2 or 3 elites act 1 and getting trash offered so idk. I think if youre strong and have pots they are worth
>>735577214>See you guys playing some braindead gacha or whateverThere's Chaos Zero Nightmare that is basically the gacha version of this game
>>735553070>make a deck of less than 25 cards matched up by keywordok>then get your enablerwhat if i don't?>heh retard. Game too hard for you?
>>735577279Veronica in slay the spire..... pls....
>>735577324Her tit size will be different in every card art and room you walk into so it stays true to the original
>>735561480tbf grave warden definitely negative pulse are not enough to block act 3 alone without getting chipped for 20-30 in every combatunironically its kinda hard to scale necro's block without defy. souls + devour gives you a tiny bit of block and doom + shroud does too. deaths door and melancholy are kinda unreliable. its so much easier to consistently block everyone with a character like defect. osty blocks for you on your bad turns but you need to have lots of block on some other turns to make him big first.
Just the right amount
why does the goblin elite hit for 25 on turn 1
>>735577798he only attacks every 3rd turn it's only fair that he at least does something turn 1
>>735577798He's gobblin ur nuts
>>735577869he hits on those other turns too in fact he fills half your hand with garbage cards that damage you
>>735577153You can pretty much always beat act I elites if you pick the cards that let you do it. It's very rare that you're actually forced to skip them. Whether that leads to beating Test Subject + Doormaker is a separate question.
>>735577917he doesn't attack on the turn after you you only have 8 incoming damage from burns. That's nothing in act 3.
>>735577279My life improve significantly when I uninstalled that
