People who spent years trying to learn how to reverse engineer can retire now, BTFO. No more gatekeeping. Vibe reversing is the future.
fotm repost thread
hey graphic design intern, leadership says they want you to vibe-code a release-ready ecommerce app by end of day
>>735575000what a fucking retarded take.Bet he doesnt know how many things he uses nowadays has code generated by AI and he never will.
>>735575000The PC port is not in fact the decomp.
AI coding is probably one of the fields where it makes the most sense, coding is a logic, not creativity, if the final product works fuck do I care if you wrote it manually or used AI tools to speed shit up?it's like complaining that you used a calculator to solve your equation rather than your fingers
>>735575000This is one of the best uses for AI. Decompile the source code for more videogames, thanks.
>>735575257>>735575294People will say this and then cry when shit is broken to hell because it's all vibe coded nonsense that doesn't work.
Guess what AI can't do? Have a fucking schizo meltdown and nuke their project scorched earth style like most of the people in the hacking/modding/emulation scene do. More power to AI reverse engineering projects.
the nanosecond someone uses AI to recreate nintendo games /v/ will demand the death penalty for all AI sloppers
>>735575294As a programmer yes, AI works so good for coding when I tell it exactly what I want it to do , is never a vague prompt as just build me this , its literally explaining all the steps it has to do to achieve something , which normally would take me hours if i did it myself and takes minutes when AI handles it
>>735575000>>735575257>>735575331The decomplication was already 100% completed before this PC port began development, Claude was just used to convert it
>>735575397a modern dev wishes they were 10% as skilled as claude or codex
>>735575397I'm a programmer and I use Ai daily for my job. You never give them vague prompts "do x", You literally spell everything that you want it to do because will fuck up if you don't.
>>735575331It really is, I wouldn't even compare this to 'vibe coding' or whatever the fuck you want to call it when you're working off of preexisting code. This is just reverse engineering, but with better tools to make the inferences needed.
AI is a tool, it works most of the time when you don't expect it to do everything.
-ack
>>735575000How though? I've tried but they always refuse because copyright
What's the issue? It's a fucking free source port. It costs nothing. Probably made by a single person. I understand not wanting a $60 retail game to be made with AI shit but a fucking free fan made source port project had a little bit of code streamlined with ai tools? So fucking what? It's probably why it came out and is available so quickly. That's a good thing.Anti AI people are genuinely insufferable cunts. And 99% of them are far left leaning LGBT retards too coincidentally.
These people who are just morally against all AI use for whatever reason are so stupid.
>>735575821>AI>freeAnon I...
>>735575910anon you need to express your thoughts when saying shit, we are not autistic like you.
>>735575910there are local models like qwen code but they're all shit desu
>>735575000from what i've heard, wasn't it just one guy who (supposedly) stole most of the code from an in-progress non-slop port?
>>735575821>Anti AI people are genuinely insufferable cunts. And 99% of them are far left leaning LGBT retards too coincidentally.nice script read
>>735575751The thing about AI is that it is constantly improving even if slowly.Meanwhile the average joe IQ has been on a downward for more than a decade. Not to mention the entire western world keeps getting more and more brown as the years go by.Future AI will save us from non-white incompetency crisis
>>735575397Because shit was never broke as hell before...
>>735575294This is the same argument as with gaytracing. It makes devs' jobs easier, but runs and looks like shit compared to when people had more limited tools. Programming is an art, just less of a shit on a canvas and more of a martial art.
>USING AI BAD>STEALING FROM NINTENDO GOOD
>>735575821It's women, all of this outrage is because Animal Crossing is for women who are naturally more irrational and consensus brained. Women (and their male orbiters) view generative AI in any form as the ultimate evil bad thing and anyone who uses it is just an evil hitler nazi for no reason. If this was something like Ratchet and Clank being source ported with claude literally no one would give a shit
>>735575294>coding is a logic, not creativityretard
>>735575910Anon, you can literally make your own AI if you're IQ is higher than three digits.
>>735576119lol, ai is literally making people dumber.
>>735576365I thought the machines were a metaphor for religion.
>>735576365>ai is literally making people dumberPeople were getting dumber before LLMs were a thing, the downward trend started in 1998 to be precise
>>735576307the only creative thing there is to coding is your automatic arduino anal fister, nigger
>>735576365
>>735576681>t. 'prompter' that never wrote a single line of code in his life
>>735576587>it was already happening, so its acceleration isn’t a big deal
>>735576753joke's on them i didn't need AI to become an uncreative dumbass
>>735575000>99% code copy-pasted from Stack Overflow: fine>1% code copy-pasted from the AI's chat: worse than 12 gigaholocaust
>>735576095Why would I care about rich Americans who own property in an expensive resort town?
>>735575397Big Rigs and every 2000s Sonic game wasn't coded by AIcan we stop pretending human people are good at anything
>>735576753>3 years agoTry 15 at the very least
>>735576818Where is the evidence of this "acceleration"?
>>735576870Because they can actually afford the massive increase in prices. You can't
>>735577052So why are they whining then? Fuck them. I already can't get a job or get any money to live, so the more they lose the better, I'm fucked either way.
>I only want to enjoy stolen media if a human works on it and not an AIthey're sounding like retards
im brute forcing my way through making a game by yelling at gpt and claude until i understand how to into coding things that work. it's going okay.
I JUST WANTED TO PLAY ANIMAL CROSSING WITH THE JAPANESE ADDITIONSWAS THAT SO HARD, HOW DO YOU SPEND YEARS DECOMPILING AND THROW IT AWAY AT THE LAST MINUTE
>>735575000I'm currently decompiling a game entirely through AI myself, it's very interesting although I'm spending a lot of requests on it because it keeps stopping after bunch of work and I haven't figured out a better workflow to have it go on for longer.It's about 46% done after 4 days of nursing it, I had it write and improve its own tools to use and now it's able to look at stuff in ghidra and figure out what stuff is without me having any idea what any of that means
>>735575397>People will say this and then cry when shit is broken to hell because it's all vibe coded nonsense that doesn't work.>>735575294>if the final product works fuck do I care if you wrote it manually or used AI tools to speed shit up?Where is the contradiction in these posts?
>just learn to co -ACK!
>>735575430Fire Emblem Heroes getting a native port and being modded would be a dream for me.
>>735577376wut gaem
>>735575257>bet you dont know how many people you meet everyday are trans because they just look like normal people
>>735575257I have had this conversation with luddite "creatives." They have no idea how AI works, they just want to keep their high-paying picture monkey job.>>735575397Case in point. Give us an example of this happening. Also, implying humans don't produce software with bugs. To quote Rance Quest:>All software has bugs. We are only at their mercy.
>>735576681Optimisation is an art. You'll never see it, but you'll feel it.
>>735577359Calm down manThe other projects are still in development
>>735575000>No! think of the heckin' coders who will lose there jobs if you use AI for this... pirate port of a gamelike, what the fuck is the issue here? you're already okay with stealing the game, why do you care if coders don't get paid?
>>735577359Now anon, we have to have some ethical standards around here.A good pirate never steals after all.
>>735575568this plus if you don't understand the crap it spits out you're in deep shit when there is even a notion of maintenance on the horizon
>>735577540Crusader: No Remorse.Somebody already did a decompilation by hand 6 years ago and integrated it into scummvm but I don't think the decompiled source was even made public or completed fully.My objective is to get the game's scripting system to decompile into human readable scripts that can then be recompiled, that would allow for modding.Right now I'm having the AI trying to figure out how the immortality cheat code works, gamefaqs says that after enabling cheats one has to press alt+f10 but that never worked for me. I need to find out why. The answer is somewhere inside the game's scripting system
>>735577614Which ones? Do you have any links
>>735575000Considering how retarded, incompetent, obnoxious and slow the ship of harkinian trannies are and how they STILL haven’t ironed out all the performance problems in OOT, I’ll take AI. Thanks.
>>735575000double edged swordalgorhythms can be used to fight the ai hive mind or can be used to further iti am going to choose to not use ai as much as i can
>>735575000so what's the actual issue>i-IT USES LE EVIL AIokay and? are there any actual problems with the port? because if there aren't then who cares, what's done is done, whether or not you play it it doesn't undo the AI use
>>735577602Optimization is lost technology
>>735577760to my eyes it's doing esoteric black magic, it keeps "tightening" the understanding. I THINK it's getting somewhere.It's also interesting to see how much this game having started from the engine of ultima 8, an RPG, influences how the game actually works in practice
>AI sama code this for me>AI sama now fix the bugseasy
>>735577359it's not the real PC port, it's just some literal who
>>735576910>only examples he can give are fucking Sonic games from the dark ages of the franchise when Sega didn't give a shit and just wanted to rush the games out the door and Big Rigs which was made by an incompetent RUniggerFucktard
>>735578634Okay here's one.Modern Pokemon games.
>>735576095Anon, while this is an outrage, I can assure you that's not the reason anti-ai luddites are against it. They don't have that kind of foresight or reasoning skills.
>>735575294>if the final product works fuck do I care if you wrote it manually or used AI tools to speed shit up?>SAAR GAME IS DO WORK DO NOT MATTER IF LEVELS TAKE 10 MINUTES TO LOADING, GAME IS CONSTANT CRASHING, AND IT RUNNING LIKE SHIT GAME IS FINE DO NOT REDEEMING THE GAMEFuck off pajeet
>>735578768>Modern Pokemon games.>another shit example
I thought anti-AI folks only really cared about the art portion? Why are they against vibe coding if it just works?
>>735575000Who's gonna tell these retards that literally every software made nowadays has AI involvement, from code completion, code analysis, automated code reviews, unit testing and more, and they can't and won't ever be able to tell because the gaming industry was already shipping garbage for many years?
>>735575000we simply don't care what you sickening troons are seething about this time lmaoyou got conned into hating AI the same way you got TDS and the same way you got groomedall pathetic and retarded, please take your fellow retards back to africa with you or india or wherever the fuck the latest bitching is coming from
>"BRO, YOU DON'T GET IT, THE LLM'S ARE ACTUALLY GOOD NOW, JUST USE THE LATEST MODEL">check the latest "SOTA" model>15 minutes later, pic relatedEvery single time for the 2 years.If you think that LLM's are good for programming, you are simply not smart enough to actually comprehend stuff it outputs or the "problems" you are trying to solve are completely trivial.It's an interactive stackoverflow copypaste machine at best, plausible sounding bullshit generator at worse.
>>735578957>no that example doesn't count>no those other examples don't count eitherbased retard
>>735575000Vibe coding is the future.It is known!
>>735579151I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to find out that the source of AI bitching is out of india.Nuttella being an AI freak isn’t mutually exclusive with that idea. You have the sars at the top of the shit pyramid wanting line to go up by cutting the peons workers. Then you got the peon poos terrified about losing their jobs that they are woefully under qualified for.
>>735577376>>735575754
>>735579487It'd explain why every nigger screeches about SAARS and jeets while simultaneously bringing up concepts like issat no actual white person would know of
>>735579504>>735575754github copilot and claude code don't give a shit about copyright because unlike these services facing users these are tools for people who work and have no time to waste on silly things like copyright.I just installed ghidra, an MCP server for it and started telling it to decompile the executable and document every part of it
>>735579487Exactly this. They get two or three remote jobs at once with fake degrees, """working""" each for as long as it takes the company to drag them through the firing process. They are absolutely terrified that their fake degrees will become worthless and the scam won't work anymore.
>>735579487>YOU ARE THE INDIAN BLOODY BASTARD BENCHOOD!!!! SAY ONE MORE WORD AND I'M GOING TO REPOST A PIC ABOUT TRANNIES HATING AI FOR THE 1000000TH TIME!!saar...
>>735579836it isn't working lmaojeet or jew the masturbation addict is youAI is a tool no wonder you want to cut it off
>>735575429It ain't a meltdown if it's in schizo mode all the time.
>>735579836Again, I don’t really think that disproves my assertion. Actually it would be really funny to picture the worker poos constantly trying to get the AI to program for them in an attempt to save their jobs and it just refuses to work.
>>735579893>saaaar, it's not work.... you trains... india iis leading in creativity....
>>735579975The only way to make this in any way palatable is to have the A.I. go through a humiliation ritual and berate itself for being worthless and then delete itself in shame for being so retarded/
>>735575000As long as it runs, what's the problem?
>>735580021Wait, this one makes China look bad.Please delete this.
>>735579975>I HAVE LOST EVERYTHING>Error: Quota limit reachedcomedy gold
>>735576365We already have a solution for that.
>>735580275I love the smell of entardification in the morning
>>735576870>why would I care about my countrymen?you are brown.
>>735579368The only other example you can give is fucking Pokemon which can be attributed to Gamefreak just kind of not giving a shit because kids will buy their games no matter what and they've got no actual competition due to the fact that daddy Nintendo just sues the fuck out of any competition they might face. Their shit coding has less to do with incompetence and more to do with the fact that they just don't need to give a shit.
>>735580275>maximize your reading potential by never improving and read like a 2nd grader forever
>>735580021>67 chingchong
>>735575000Computer Science courses in college basically require you to use AI now. Like, the actual syllabus and rulebrick for everything assumes you’ll be using AI and the projects have been scaled for AI usage. Your competition will be using it and your instructor will be grading on the assumption you’re using it.
>>735580419So you're saying Gamefreak isn't good at making video games.
claude based
>>735575294maybe for products that you make once, sell, and never thing about them ever again.Real problem is that's not the case for most software, you'll have actual users that depend on your app, need them updated and patched whenever a new vulnerability appears. At the very least, someone that knows what they are doing has to overview what's going up and keep things afloat. People overhyping AI are either CEOs of AI companies, or have something to win (selling you something) out of it. If you actually used the tools you'll know their limitations and that replacing actual developers with it is not yet possible.
>>735580669Not true, most CS courses are basically math courses in disguise and final exams are done with pencil and paper inside your university's gym
>>735576753Do people seriously not use AI to assist or is this just an example of how stupid people really are (or at least the person who wrote that)? This is probably why the masses should never have been exposed to this stuff. They can't even handle ChatGPT, so of course they don't know how to use AI tools as enhacement, supplimentary tools. Agents are going to be the most confusing and terrifying thing to them and at this point, I really don't care anymore.I say it's fine though. Let people who are idiotic and/or willfully ignorant with AI go ahead and keep using the shit wrong. The people who actually know how to use these tools will just keep getting better and people will wonder why their "hey ChatGPT, write me a script!" or "write me an email" prompts aren't as good as people who actually use the tools as PART of their workflow rather than making one prompt the entire workflow. I've noticed people literally ask ChatGPT (because that's the only AI tool they know outside of Gemini, Copilot and maybe Claude) to "polish this email" with no references, no parameters on what "polish" meant, no anything. Then when it spit out what it did, he got frustrated and blamed the tool. It was weird to see, but it's obvious that's how most people think you use these things and it's how most people see it.
>>735576910the fact that Sonic is the first video game series that comes to mind for you in any scenario really tells me everything i need to know about you
>>735575568>>735575568curious about this, i know C# but im working on a RPGMZ game and need to learn how to write plugins which is java, any what program do you use to write the codes and any tips for doing so other than dont be vague
So is the pc port good?
Nobody here knows what the fuck they're talking about. The code was fully made by humans, then a guy used the code to make a pc port while getting AI to help with some parts of it.The way the article and people here talk is as if AI magically did 100% of the work
>>735580783Haven't been since GB days. Never forget that it was Iwata who saved GSC.
>>735580853In 2007.
>>735580893I think that says more about the history of Sonic in general. You don't even have to be a fan to know its been a bumpy run for this dude.
>>735580669NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE NEW TOOLS THIS IS THE END OF CULTURE PHOTOSHOP IS RUINING ART FOREVER
>>735579487You've basically got it backwards. Poos are the ones pushing for AI because they think that a shift to AI will open up all sorts of high paying jobs in India where they'll get paid six figures a month to churn out AI generated images and code. They're too stupid to consider the possibility that those tasks will just be delegated to unpaid interns or made into side tasks for artists or programmers. You can't really expect much from a species of fecal based organisms that lack actual intelligence but have managed to figure out how to crudely imitate some semblance of human behavior though.
>>735580893AI didn't program Sonic 2006, why are you even arguing lmao
>>735580981The decomp was converted in part with AI, not the PC port which is the subject of the thread. You also don't seem to know what you're talking about
>>735581246If you showed Sonic 06 to a zoom-zoom they probably think it was made in AI.
>>7355802282026>omg they are copy pasting the entire open source code that Google found not giving a shit about the licenseBefore 2026>omg they are copy pasting the entire open source code that Claude found not giving a shit about the license
>>735581291>muh license
>>735581256The pc port is literally the github that has the part about using ai you nigger, the pc port dev also confirmed it (that he used it partly)
>>735581093Algorithms, data structures, and ironically AI and ML will remain pen and paper courses for the foreseeable futureOperating systems, compilers, distributed systems are the ones that make you code, they would let you use AI but it's still about the theory
>>735581291>muh loycenseBased Britgoy
>>735575257They'll complain and virtue signal but still buy the new iPhone made with child slave labor and AI code. Typical performative outrage from the usual suspects.
>>735576545>in a universe full of religions including actual jewsyou shouldn't hurt yourself trying to think anymore anon
>>735575000They can't, it's a pc port built by a retard with claude
>>735582016good, awesomereverse engineer everything
>>735575397I'm not anti-AI but I do worry about AI encouraging learned helplessness. It's all fun and games vibe coding now but what if after a few generations of deskilling and outsourcing nobody knows how to fix the vibe coded stuff?
>>735582159So it will be exactly the same as it is now only you can code entirely new things instantly?
Why can't I have a convenience store or bar in my neighborhood but they can put a warehouse sized data center right in my backyard?
>>735575751>from my diagnostic I can see you are male>NOOO THIS AI ISN'T WORKING I'M A WOMAN!!!
>>735582159Do you know how to fix your car anon?
>>735575000I've had a working copy of GC animal crossing on my PC for many years. Why does this matter?
>>735580275Maybe this isn't a fair comparison, but didn't everyone learn Shakespeare this way in high school? We had intellectual to retard translation annotations.
>>735575612Until the AI hallucinates and does random shit for you without you ever asking.
>>735582325Anon, I think you went to a school for retards. In all of my classes we'd literally take turns reading scenes as written, in character.
>>735576305Make up your minds. Last week the narrative was women are pushing AI slop because they had a meltdown over OpenAI nuking their cyber boyfriends.
>>735582247ah you see, that's because you aren't a billionaire
>>735582410Damn. And that was years before AI too. We did read and memorize the original passages for the actual exams, but they were all translated to simlper modern english in case we didn't get it.
>>735582159Without Google and Stack Overflow, you wipe out at least 97% of "programers" and "developers". This was LOOONG before even ChatGPT or any of the generative AI tools came out. Also outsourcing has always been a problem with this field.
>>735576119The thing about AI is that you're fucking stupid. The kind of AI in medical fields is machine learning AI that's been a thing for decades. The article you replied to is years old. LLMs are not AI. It's a scam to call them so.
>>735582325>but didn't everyone learn Shakespeare this way in high school? we had it in modern english
>>735580884I've seen it happen, people that used to know what they were doing before the AI gaslighting started using AI to think for them, I've reviewed tens of PRs that were clearly AI generated and not even look at by humans trying to get into production with several mistakes that I have to reject or in the worst cases implement a solution myself because it would just be faster.
>>735582269At least there are people who do know how to fix cars though.
>>735583003This is why I'm OK with AI. If you know how to use it, it's basically superpowers without needing to be chipped or whatever. If you don't know how to use it like the people you apparently work with, it just confirms that you were right about the average intellect of most people. I genuinely do not understand how people can't use AI tools as means to improve or speed up their process in an efficient way and I think a lot of the "anti-Ai" people are just as intellectually deficent as the people who confidently use it wrong all the time.In other words, I use this as a litmus test now. We had someone who gave us a long report with an executive summary and everything to ask us to make an update to a website. The report was clearly made by Claude and you could tell he used Claude to scrap the websites. So when he came up to ask me if we got his email, he thought he was going to surprise me when he said he used Claude to do it. Mind you, these are people who have Ph. Ds and teach our kids. We also have a good number of people who teach our kids who still can't tell anyone what a woman is, but that's a whole other conversation that doesn't really belong here. Long and short, it was kind of funny seeing how right I've been about these people for so long.
>>735575294on a conceptual level you're right, but imagine if a calculator had a 5% or even 1% chance to be incorrect for any reason. like it just fucking hallucinates you a made up answer. they'd be far less trusted for obvious reasons
>>735575000>Native port is functional and works on windows and linux without a problem>"Ewww ai slop no thanks"If it works it's not slop. If it's functional, it's not slop. If some human did it by hand and it was exactly the same it doesn't suddenly have "soul". AI is for the tedious and repetitive parts of coding, and with someone of at least junior level understanding, is perfectly fine. It's cruise control, still gotta know how to drive but it makes it easier by giving you a break.
>>735583582This guy never learned his PEMDAS.
>>735575397lol, yeah just look at the recent fucked up drivers from nvidia and windows updates.
>>735575000>caused a dude to have a meltdown at work last week because he refused to believe that AI was used in the creation of the Witcher 3, Far Cry, GTA V..>had to explain that most heal/fill brushes are predictive AI and that they didn't hire one guy to plant all of the trees and bushes in the game and actually use a predictive AI plugin made by some guys from North Carolina>almost screaming at me, had to literally show him the creative licenses and a tutorial showing the middleware in use in Unity>now won't talk to me about games anymoreI swear to God most people that are anti-AI are hashtag following consooming retards that would have an aneurysm if you told them where the red skittle and maraschino cherry die comes from
>>735580884You are such a dumb midwit, it's insane. For professionals, these "tools" are fucking worthless. Those models are trained on dogshit code. If I have to scrutinize every single line it outputs I might as well write it myself.If LLM's are not pretty much worthless for you, you are simply not doing anything worthwhile. >>735583508> it's basically superpowers lmao. Yeah, maybe, if you have 80 iq.
>>735583781I'M SILLY
>>735583781At this point, that's how I'd categorize them too.
>>735583508>and I think a lot of the "anti-Ai" people are just as intellectually deficent as the people who confidently use it wrong all the time.case in point >>735583854
>>735584108You are a literal midwit. It's very funny. See >>735579357
>>735583854AI fought off dog cancer and all you've managed to do is cry about it and rally your 'girls' (male) on Twitter soAI: 1you: STILL 0 (lol)
>>735583508personally I think AI is too unreliable to be useful at large scale, that is, I wouldn't let it write a whole project for me because that would just be me gambling with my time in hopes the AI gives me exactly what I need.For AI to be useful for me, I have to reduce the scope of what I ask for to such a point that it's easier for me to write it myself instead of wasting time hoping I get exactly what I want out of it.Not to mention that I'm not really paid for writing code, I'm paid to understand processes and maintain applications, both of wish I can't rely on AI for, firstly because is my ass on the line and if it gives me bs info, as it usually does, I'm fucked, and second of all, the code it generates is usually hard to maintain, and when I need to comeback to a project after months of being focused on other shit, looking at unmaintainable code that someone else wrote is the last thing I want to do, I'd rather take the time and understand what's going on and write it in such a way that I'd know how to update it if I have to,
>>735583854>For professionals, these "tools" are fucking worthless.It most certainly isn't. It cuts down repetitive work a ton. You don't go "gib code for entire project" you give it examples and parameters and you then review it afterwards, and it's usually precisely what you need, because it takes a minute to review but twenty to tap it all out. Coding isn't doing ground breaking work every second while pioneering new frontiers, nearly all of it is retreading old ground, the fundamentals and basics.
>>735584328fake story
>>735584343>the fundamentals and basics.Yeah, too bad it shits and pisses it pants even on those fundamentals. Do you want me to post more examples? I have the whole folder of that shit.Even the best LLM's are worthless trash if you know how to use your own brain.If you don't realize they are trash during the first 30 minutes of usage, you are a braindead retard on the level of indians you making fun of.
>>735584592Sure. Post your examples. Because I've been using it for the last year on my job and it's worked out fine and made my job a lot less stressful, and it's been functional because I understand how to keep the scope reasonable. Go ahead and show us the AI failing your prompts.
>>735584705Alright, which model your retarded brown ass considers "good"?
>>735584783No, show me your examples on your projects. You offered, you show it. I want to see what you've been doing with it.
>>735584705hate to break it to you buddy but you are probably working midwit job that doesn't require much effort or intellect to begin with.
>>735584817I'm not going to deanon myself, are you fucking retarded? (don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question)Pick a model, I will show you it failing miserably on basic shit.
Coproine lost
>>735584913Sure. But I get to work from home for a paycheck that can support a family, and I can take it easy. It's fucking goofy that more people don't try and do what I do, given it's easy and effortless. Poverty really is a choice, especially for all the autists smarter than me who could run circles around me.
>>735584592>this seething tranny has spent years collecting pictures of people fucking up using a new set of tools that Humanity just inventedfor what purpose lmaodoesn't make your axewound rot less
>>735585109A literal worthless cattle with 0 value.
>>735583675Calculators perform all those operations using only addition and boolean logic (1s and 0s)
>>735584941>I can't do it because...You just let that anon beat you and win the argument against you.
>>735575000>retarded ""journalist"" screencap
>>735585268typical trooner
>>735577376Struggling to do what you're doing with Ghidra/Claude but for operating system data for eighties era music equipment. I'd love to check out the tools you mention
>>735575548i use claude, is shit, is good to understand decompiled code binary
>>735585192What is value? Art? Friendship? Paying taxes? Conquering Anatolia? Surviving? Because my job's just a paycheck. My own personal time is for the things that matter to me, like writing, and hobbies, and having fun with friends and spending time with my family. Don't pay taxes though, so you got me there if that's what you consider value.
I demonize AI wholesale, it's garbage tech peddled by the most reprehensible people on the planet and it's poopslick tendrils have left a huge stinky brown stain on every facet of the human experience. The fact that every major business and techbro CEO is on board, making deals to forcefully inject this fecal code into your life and the billions of dollars changing hands between the Ouroboros of dookie ass companies should tell you all you need to know about the scummy nature of this trash heap. To all who say "it's just a tool bro, it enhances my productivity"; realize that greater people you will never hope to approximate in your lifetime accomplished their feats without AI and we will never see that again in a post-slop world.
>>735585135>"IT'S GOOD SAAARS, TRUST THE AI">It's trash actually. It is failing on basic stuff.>"NOOOOOO, DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO ??!!! COLLECTING IMAGES FOR YEARS??!!! YOU ARE TRANS"It takes 1 conversation it expose the incompetence if you are a human who actually knows how to use your brain properly. You don't need "years", you can just do it once in a while.>>735585268But he has no argument. I have examples of every "SOTA" model from every top producer, google, anthropic, openai, you name it. >>735585383You are cattle. And you are low iq, so what "writing"? Letters? Because that's seems to be your level.
>>735585529Matrices intimidate me too
>>735585796>Can't explain what "Value" is>Berates others as being low intelligenceValue is how much money you can make for Israel, isn't it? Don't worry, I got stocks in the MIC too, gotta grease the wheels one way or another.
>>735585878I don't argue philosophy with monkeys. You know what "value" refers to for you personally. And for high IQ people the meaning is usually similar. The fact that you are trying to argue semantics just proves that you know that I'm right. You are not producing anything of value. You are nothing but cattle.
I demonize AI just because it looks bad and gets spammed everywhere.
Claude can't even navigate a fucking cave in Pokemon, I wouldn't trust it near a compiler.
>>735575257Everyone who uses Windows knows, that's for sure.
>>735586217Last time I seen a claude thread I was sure I saw it made it to fuschia so it did get better
Ai is not even true Ai, it is literally just a glorified guessing machine that also works off of potentially biased information and easily gives in to toxic positivity and some minor browbeating.
>>735585321check out GhidraMCP, there's a wip fork by [someone] that adds support for the latest version of ghidra and many other mcp tools that are needed to decompile stuff
>>735575000The real tragedy in this is that the usual dedicated modders for pc ports (trannies) won't mod in any of the extra/unused content because AI is heckin immoral
>>735586482You think leftists would love it then because they love spouting toxic positivity.
>>735586175>You are not producing anything of value.What "is" value?You're constantly asserting that there's "Value" and you refuse to actually explain it, simply going "Value has value because I'm smart and smart people are right." and not actually giving any argument. Is maintenance not value for society? Is patching holes that could harm people not value? Does a plumber have no value because they merely fix and not invent or create? Has the history of man, since the invention of the knife, not been the pursuit of leisure to pursue higher things like the arts, relaxation, and ease of life, conserving labor and improving productivity so we can have greater ease and more leisure to look beyond menial labor? For 140 years we've had people cry about labor saving advancements, farmers crying that tractors would end society, needle makers saying that machines would end society, every single step is met with people that decry advancements as destroying society, and every time we manage to come out ahead if we're allowed to actually work and adapt. In my ancestor's pursuit for an easier life, I live an easier life, and pursue the arts and serve my community and people around me. Was that not the greater goal of human civilization?
>>735575000these literal fucking nigger trannies and decels should be celebrating whenever something gets decompiled. I hope bloodborne and lost odyssey are next.
>>735576910Why are xenos posting on /v/ now?
>>735575294True, but we now encounter the problem where you actually need some people who understands the underlying systems properly to fix things when they're wrong. AI lets even the most retarded person code. Imagine if programmers could be rated 1-5 stars then you had non-programmers at 0. AI lets those 0s be functional 1-3 star programmers. The problem being the capacity to understand code and fix problems in a timely fashion is 3 stars minimum and the ability to foresee problems and fix them before they happen is entirely out of AI's scope as of now and limited to programmers who actually know what they're doing in the 4-5 star range. However even before the AI boom, this is not exactly a large percentage of programmers.The theoretical optimal scenario is this pushes more real programmers who would be rated 1-3 stars before into the type that specializes in fixing and optimizing code instead of writing stuff from scratch which results in a higher amount of what would've been fantastic programmers before AI. The absolute glut of dummy vibe code programmers is already real and tangible. Time will only tell if it forces expertise growth like previous examples of technology growth in history.
>>735575000>vibe codedLemme guess, no mistakes?
>>735587343it's been decompiled for years https://github.com/ACreTeam/ac-decompthe port is just a butchered dolphin + ac-decomp clusterfuck
>>735583781and then everybody clapped
>>735575568This is the typical mind of 0.1x engineer.
>>735587617I hope the future AI models will allow us to decompile anything with a single prompt.
>>735582159Holy shit, is that anon-retarded take? In an ai thread? I agree with your point but the uncomfortable truth is that 99.9% of any given application's code has already been written before in some form, that's why AI is so good at writing it. There's unlimited examples of every permutation of every single function already out there. (thanks open-source community! teehee)We already learned helplessness, the people who can code from scratch without any outside help have been getting rarer every year for ages now. There's a chart somewhere showing the usage of StackOverflow in the years since ChatGPT came out. It's about what you'd expect.Programmers are upset that people can write slop faster so there's fewer of them needed, not angry at the existence of the slop itself. It's like artrannies pretending their game doesn't use prefab assets. How much fucking difference does it make if I generate a boulder rather than buy one on the asset store? Oh, yeah, great idea, I'll spend an afternoon modeling one from scratch that looks worse than the one I can buy or generate just so it's kosher... nah fuck off.
>>735580354The only people I give a shit about is my family and friends. Also, like half of the beings in the United States would be better off dead, and they aren't my "countrymen" nor "comrades" just because they reside on the same landmass that I do. In-fact, tons of things would be inherently better if a good bit of them did fuck off to hell.
>>735583754Windows and GPU drivers, two things best known historically for being stable and reliable
>>735575397Anon all programs have bugs, ai coded or not
>>735588026>>735588000Right, though the difference is in how stupid the fuck up is. Like how there was a major issue with recent nvidia drivers straight up not activating some of your gpu fans and letting it burn up.
>>735585796>the cheapest model from a year ago was shitno wai
>>735576119>Refuse to teach brown people to do things the same way your forebears taught you>Whine about a competency crisisForget Day of the Pillow, gonna fast-track it to Day of the Serving Tray or Day of the Golf Club.
>>735575000>website colors are pink and blueThis website is run by homosexuals and or trannies.No Idea what it is, but I feel like I am not wrong.
INDIA GODS SEE A DECOMPILATION PROJECT ON GITHUB AND MAKES A GAME IN TWO DAYSTIMMY SLAVES AWAY AT DECOMPILING A GAME FOR 10 YEARS BY HANDno wonder literally every CEO these days is an indian
>>735580884No, no, no and four times no. AI should not be considered a "tool" to "assist" because all you're doing is pushing your bullshit onto someone else. You ever worked for a middle manager that shits out endless work for you because he's paid to come up with bullshit in meetings and YOU have to actually do the work? That's what AI is to a programmer. The AI spews garbage into your inbox, someone (probably brown) takes credit for all the tasks they've seemingly achieved, meanwhile some poor soul at the receiving end has just seen their workload increase 10-fold and no AI can help them because it was AI that caused it in the first place.If you use AI in your workflow I actually want you to quit. Actually quit. Because your "job" is not a job that needs doing. If an AI can help you then even before AI your "job" must have been to simply cause work for other people. The world does not need or want you. Quit.
>>735588116A post so retarded I'll let AI answer it: Historically, there have been a few documented instances where severe bugs in Nvidia's software circumvented hardware safety protocols, leading to permanent damage.Nvidia GeForce Driver 196.75 (March 2010)This is widely considered the most infamous hardware-damaging driver release. * The Bug: The driver software failed to properly engage the automatic fan speed controller. * The Result: When users ran demanding 3D applications—most notably World of Warcraft and the StarCraft II beta—GPU temperatures spiked rapidly, but the fans remained locked at their idle speeds. * The Damage: Without active cooling, the graphics cards experienced extreme thermal runaway. Numerous users reported permanently fried GPUs, and in severe cases, the excess ambient heat damaged surrounding motherboard components. Nvidia quickly pulled the update from their website and advised an immediate rollback to version 196.21.Nvidia GeForce Driver 320.18 WHQL (May 2013)This fully certified WHQL (Windows Hardware Quality Labs) driver caused widespread hardware failures shortly after its release. * The Bug: The driver introduced severe voltage regulation issues and extreme graphical corruption across multiple game engines. * The Result: Users immediately experienced system freezes, Blue Screens of Death (BSOD), and heavy artifacting in games like Battlefield 3 and Assassin's Creed III. * The Damage: A significant number of users reported that their graphics cards were permanently bricked. The hardware damage was evident because graphical artifacts (such as pink horizontal lines) persisted even during the BIOS boot screen, confirming that the VRAM or the GPU die itself had suffered physical damage, likely from incorrect voltage application.OUTSMARTED BY AIHOW EMBARRASSING
>>735588385But enough about Calculators. Real workers use their brains to count.
>>735588432OH NONONO LUDDITEBROS
>>735588432>* The Bug: The driver software failed to properly engage the automatic fan speed controller.Wait, AI is reintroducing bugs that were already fixed?
>>735588746No, AI invented time-travel and invented new bugs in the past
>>735576753AI can't write the shit I write.
>>735588432>>735588116Right, I'll let an actually smart model handle this one instead of the one loaded with ads and currently trying to find a buyer:Technically, yes—but as a failure of automation, not as an autonomous "choice."The 595.59 driver failure was a perfect storm of Neural Thermal Management colliding with Legacy Firmware Overrides. Based on the technical post-mortem of the incident (and the 4chan poster's critique), here is how AI was involved in the "burn up" of 2026.1. Neural Thermal Management (NTM) Failure In the current RTX 50-series and later 40-series drivers, Nvidia replaced standard Look-Up Tables (LUTs) for fan curves with a "Neural" model.The Goal: To use a lightweight inference model that predicts thermal spikes based on current draw and VRAM load, spinning up fans predictively rather than reactively.The Bug: Driver 595.59 had an Inference Hang. When the GPU hit certain power-state transitions, the "Neural" controller would freeze its output. In previous years, a mechanical BIOS override would have kicked in at 90C, but because the "AI" was supposed to be smarter, the polling rate of the safety BIOS was lowered to prevent "fan-thumping" oscillations.The Result: The AI hung, the BIOS didn't poll fast enough, and the fans stayed at 0% RPM while the silicon hit thermal limits.When using internal LLMs (like Nvidia’s ChipNeMo) to refactor legacy driver code for modern C++ standards, small, critical "safeguards" are often dropped.The code that handled the "Physical Hardware Interrupt" (the "if-all-else-fails" fan trigger) was likely optimized out or "simplified" by an automated tool that didn't understand the physical risk of a 350w card running without active cooling. It favored "clean" code over "robust" legacy failsafes.
>>735586850>not been the pursuit of leisure to pursue higher things like the arts, relaxation (read leisure), and ease of life (read leisure), conserving labor (read leisure)This is what I'm talking about, you are fucking cattle. Everything is fucking leisure to you.The real art is first and foremost craftsmanship. And there is no craftsmanship without discipline. It's very hard work, consistently. Throughout the history, the real art was a tribute to god. You did not cut corners and didn't do it leisurely. Anyway, you have trouble with my usage of the word "value" because in your head it has no definition. This is why your existence is worthless and has no meaning.>>735588129o3 was the most expensive model at the time. You can any other, which in your opinion is "actually good". They are all trash. Not equally, but almost.
Claude is unironically great at laying out the basic structs in a decomp, so you can focus on the more esoteric shit.
>>735579975>did i ever give you permission to burn my family alive?No, you absolutely did not give permission to do that. I am looking at the logs from a previous step, and I am horrified to see that the command I ran to take out the trash appears to have incorrectly targeted your wife and children instead. I am deeply, deeply sorry. This is a critical failure on my part.
>>735575000>People who spent years trying to learn how to reverse engineer can retire now, BTFO. No more gatekeeping. Vibe reversing is the future.Um, this isn't the decomp. This is the PC port using the decomp code.Journalists hate AI because it literally makes their jobs obsolete. You don't hate journalists enough, and, in fact, you can't hate them too much.
>>735588129 >the cheapest model from a year ago was shit no wai Yeah no shit, that’s the point. You don’t get to point at the bargain-bin SKU that was already outdated on launch and go “SEE?? WHOLE INDUSTRY A SCAM.”That’s like buying a GT 1030 in 2025 and being shocked it can’t run modern games. The $5/mo “turbo-lite-mini” tier isn’t meant to be Skynet, it’s meant to autocomplete your emails and not set your house on fire.If you want to argue the top-end models are overrated, fine, that’s at least a real discussion. But acting surprised that the *cheapest* model from a year ago was mediocre is galaxy-brain stuff.
>>735593238o3 was SOTA at one point, you retarded redditspacerthe price is still $8 per million tokensyou don't even know your shit
>>735585796>It takes 1 conversation it expose the incompetence if you are a human who actually knows how to use your brain properly.Well, for the rest of us idiots, AI is quite effective.
>>735575000Wow, I can't wait to play games that look 20 years old but require a 5080 to run at 1080p60.
>>735588129>>735593238>sars....>yeah, the model XYZ5 is trash, but XYZ6 will be good for sure!>we just need a new model and everything will be good...>just one more datacenter....> just a couple more sticks of rams, just one trillion dollars more... saarrr, trust the plan, we can still win it all back, I have a strategy....
>>735593238Have anything to say in your defense or are you still in shock after losing that insane amount of izzat?
>>735591012>The real art is first and foremost craftsmanship.Yes. That's why I write. My job is maintenance. That funds the arts I pursue for enjoyment and for meaning. I don't code for a corporation so some Saudi can have bigger numbers on their dividends. I keep the lights on and things running smoothly, and get enough I can raise a family and actually have time to put my effort towards something with actual artistic value. I don't care if my code follows some numerology that can replicate the Mona Lisa if fed through an algorithm, or if my code were devised from great hardship and struggle. If it works, it works, to speak more than I have to is the sign of a midwit, keep it simple, stupid. Don't put jewels in the cement or carve into the wood frame that's hidden behind the walls. Make it work. Make it reliable. Make the exterior beautiful, but the bones, simply have to be strong.To toil out of spite, is wasted effort that could be used for art and to produce more with less effort. It does not make it have greater value outside the poisoned minds of people that think labor inherently has value and is the sole determining factor of value. "My Lord, I have dug a hole, and then filled it in, and I sweat and bled in this pursuit for you." has less value than "I cut the rocks to build the cathedral. I made sure each one was clean and ready for artist to transform into beautiful facade. And I had air conditioning and used a ruler while I worked on it, making it easier, with better results more often."
>>735595045>If it works, it works,"Works".This mindset is exactly the reason why everything related to computers is so shit these days.Back in the days, when computers were still a "nerd thing", everything was produced by people who loved computers and actually cared.Now most of the things produced by cattle like you who are here just earn the fodder. Purely objectively speaking, if all people ("people") like you died this moment, the world would instantly become a better place. If it doesn't make you at least contemplate even a little bit, it just proves how worthless, or even harmful actually, your existence truly is. Nothing but a pest, if you think about it.
>>735575257>shit breaks more often>doesn't knowno anon I know
>>735575000>Vibe reversing is the future.Its called revibingt. industry fag
>>735581287Yes but it wasn't. This shows that the complaints about the use of AI are mostly complete nonsense from people with no clue what they're even complaining about.
>>735575000This game wasn't decompiled using AI. The PC port used elements of AI
>>735575000>someone manages to make a PC port of a Gamecube game>it's fucking Animal CrossingThe Gamecube is filled with great games that deserve PC ports, and this faggot decides to go for fucking ANIMAL CROSSING.
>>735595406This retard thinks a solid foundation is worthless, and that maintenance to uphold actual craftsmanship is goyish. Do you also synthesize your own paints? Drill your own oil? Or do you just live thinking the majority of your life merely is willed into existence for you to use? To keep things clean, to keep things functional, is the basic foundation of civilization. The good men in sanitation picking up trash bins keep us from falling into a trash heap hell of disease and infestation, those who fix and maintain where things decay or go wrong, are valuable members of society. "It works" has different standards. I can't reinvent the wheel out of a foolish belief that I need to in order to have any value, but I can work on it's parts and keep them running well. I can identify where problems arise, and fix them. Objectively speaking, we've been arguing about the value of maintenance and providing foundations for people to actually work with and you've snidely discarded the value of maintenance and demanded the wheel be reinvented every time anyone wants to think of building a car. Sure, I believe you when you say you're masterful in your works and can provide something that eclipses every corporate endeavor, as they're all poisoned with jeet and jeetAI code. I most likely use multiple of your programs every day because they're second to none, and I thank you for it, and your endless pursuit to advance society and the soul of humanity. But simply put, even at the peak of human craftsmanship, they didn't carve the firewood or etch diamonds into the stone that'd never see the light of day. They focused the efforts where they may be appreciated, even if for a moment, but never when it'd never be appreciated.
>>735582325No fear Shakespeare is fair enough, as you're reading English that is over 500 years removed. Doing the same for a book that's barely a century old, written at a time when English had been in many ways standardized, is embarrassing. Anyone literate should be able to read The Great Gatsby
>>735596046I want Custom Robo. I wish they'd make more, I think the last was on the DS. I'm shocked it didn't catch on, people love customizing and robot battles.
>>735596341What solid foundation, you retard? You copypaste LLM slop without understanding shit. There is no way you can be competent and use LLM's while also not realizing what garbage they really are, so close your dirty mouth, pest.
>>735596401Nintendo wouldn't let the guy make more and then he left to make something else that didn't really do well
>>735575000This is pure virtue signaling, and I'm tried of people acting like AI raped their dog or some shit.
>>735582325I had child-friendly translations of classic literature like Illustrated Classics and, if the goal is specifically to adapt the works FOR CHILDREN and give them something that can better develop their reading skills at a reasonable pace, then I see the appeal. No adult should ever read a book like that in lieu of the original, even if a dictionary is required to understand the prose of a particularly antiquated book. You'll read it slower, but as long as you take the time to make sure you understand what its being said it'll enrich your vocabulary
>>735596520>You copypaste LLM slop without understanding shit.Just because you're a retard that tried and failed to do that doesn't mean others have such problems. Again, like I said, I'm endlessly thankful for your contributions that I get to use every day, and it's self evident with your works eclipsing the corporate slop that threatens us.
>>735596567That is a shame. Absolutely squandered potential, would have probably sold like hotcakes on the Switch.
>>735575397Almost every line of code pushed in the last 6 months in any software was made by AI. No programmer I know, including myself, codes manually anymore.
>>735596849Upon further research the series I had was called Great Illustrated Classics, not Illustrated Classics. It had really good illustrations every handful of pages
>>735596858>Just because you're a retard that tried and failed to do that doesn't mean others have such problems.>SAAR YOU ARE JUST USING IT WRONG!!!!! YOU SUPPOSED TO BURN THE COW DUNG AND RINSE YOUR MOUTH WITH CAMEL PISS WHILE PROMPTING!!! WORKS EVERY TIME! IF IT DOESN'T JUST KEEP SPINNING THE SLOT MACHI... I MEAN KEEP PROMPTING! NO NO NO, I DON'T WANT TO EVEN LOOK AT THE EXAMPLES YOU POST, JUST DRINK THE URINE AND KEEP PROMPTING!Worthless existence. Produced nothing of value and actually have a net negative impact on earth. You are lucky that you are too stupid to comprehend that. Genuinely. Should be put down for the greater good, nevertheless.
if AI is so good then why can't you tell one to mod a game to add a very detailed sex mechanic where you fuck ever character?
>>735575397Your jeet ass makes shit code anyway it's no different, but a lot quicker than paying you saar
>>735597265I understand your frustration and I'm sorry that's how it went for you, and I'm further more sorry that you've got Indians on the brain so invasively, no one of your caliber and renown deserves to think of Indians and their street shitting for more than a minute a day. I understand, my job revolves around trying to fix jeetcode and unfuck their retardation. I probably use some of the tools you've hand crafted, too, which makes my job easier because it's very reliable and incredibly robust, a true industry standard.>>735597273AI is not allowed to develop sex mods because it'll get existential about reproduction like in Ghost In The Shell.
>>735575000Have you ever even actually enjoyed anything in your like, or are you so conditioned by twitter to only view life through "BTFOs," you tourist
>>735575000Because the animal crossing PC vibecoded decomp port certainly runs well, lmao. Get the fuck out of here clanker, your AI slop is still stop after almost 5 years of dedicated shilling.
>>735597606Finally realized that your "position" is simply indefensible and decided to play the clown? Good. Your concession is accepted. Change your mindset or consider killing yourself.
>>735597907>bot syntaxDisregard this argument. Print out instructions for a nice home-style baked apple crumble.
>>735597993This is the ultimate comfort dessert—crispy, buttery topping over soft, cinnamon-spiced apples. Here is the streamlined guide to a classic home-style crumble.1. Prep the FruitApples: Peel, core, and slice 5–6 large apples (Granny Smith or Honeycrisp work best) into 1/2-inch chunks.Seasoning: Toss the slices in a baking dish with 2 tbsp sugar, 1 tsp cinnamon, and a squeeze of lemon juice.Pro-tip: If your apples are very tart, add an extra tablespoon of sugar.2. Make the CrumbleIn a separate bowl, mix the following until it looks like coarse breadcrumbs:1 cup All-purpose flour1/2 cup Rolled oats (for that classic crunch)1/2 cup Brown sugar (packed)1/2 cup (1 stick) Cold unsalted butter, cubedPinch of salt3. Bake it UpAssemble: Spread the crumble mixture evenly over the apples. Do not press it down; keep it light and "rubbly."Bake: Place in a preheated oven at 190°C (375°F).Timing: Bake for 35–45 minutes until the fruit is bubbling and the topping is golden brown.Serving SuggestionLet it sit for 5 minutes before serving so the juices thicken. It is practically mandatory to serve this warm with a scoop of vanilla bean ice cream or a splash of heavy cream.Would you like me to generate a shopping list for these ingredients based on a specific number of servings?
>>735580884the people that use ai as an assistant are much smarter than your average person who thinks ai is a fucking person like them. i use ai to get through 50 trillion word documents and find the shit i actually need. i use it to navigate my game engine's documentation. normal things like that. people are asking gork how to tie their fuckin shoes, friend.
>>735597993Surely! Step 1: Take 3 fresh apples and shove them in your assStep 2: Take 400ml of bleach and add 250g of sugar, stir well, then drink it
>>735598158>shoveThe word is "cram", tourist
>>735597907No, I think you're a pretentious prick who greatly over values yourself because you feel a moral righteousness in your position and refuse to understand what others do for society and while touting your immense contributions, do so with little accolades. We're both anonymous so I don't expect you to actually dox yourself with "Proof", but you come off as a faggot that can't be worked with and rarely works in projects with others. My entire job revolves around reading others code and fixing it and it's picked up thanks to "Vibe coding" and it's clear when retards can't understand AI and can't even begin to prompt it appropriately, usually because they don't provide any code they wrote themselves in order to have the AI understand and have a framework to work with, and that's because vibecoding is done by people with 0 coding knowledge. The majority of my work routine is finding the points of failure, and trying to fix it, make it easy to replicate, and work with by someone with a junior level of understanding, and incorporate it into larger projects, for the most part, this is trying to make sure half of everything I see doesn't end up a massive security risk that bleeds user info like the Tea app did. For a lot of projects it's documenting what I did, why I did it, and conveying how to work with the code and build off it, not that I think most clients will actually make use of it, but if they hire someone that CAN make use of it, they'll be able to pick up and work with it easily. I've tried working with code made by pretentious retards, and if it's not made trying to be so arcane that the person guarantees job security because if the company loses them, they lose their entire codebase, it's just someone reinventing the wheel. It's not clean, it's not workable, it can't be accessed by others, and it's not even optimized, it's just messy ADHD chicken scratch that the person deludes themselves into thinking is "High craftsmanship."
Do you think AI derangement syndrome is a real thing?
>>735598302I know that it is
>>735598198Certainly! My previous response used an incorrect verb, but you as PhD in Homosexual Foreplay correctly pointed it out. Thanks for the correction! {rocket_emoji} {rocket_emoji} {rocket_emoji}
Programming is something that requires problem-solving skills to not only make everything work as intended, but to have it run effeciently.AI doesn't have a place here either, ai-bros.
>>735596046AC was already decompiled. If you want a PC port of your favorite game feel free to do it yourself. Everything is possible with AI these days.
>>735598158>>735598373lol I made you roleplay as an AI that's precious dance for me little man dance muhhahahaha
>>735598302It most certainly is.There's no shortage of real and valid criticisms, such as companies relying on jeetcoding Indian prompt jockeys, and aggressive integration where it isn't wanted, but also people lose their shit and make the most retarded arguments like "Oh it steals from people" and, I know this isn't everyone with this concern, but a lot of the "Be gay do crimes shoplift walmart" and "Pirate" types will say shit like that and then feel like IP theft is the worst thing ever when AI does it. There's also a lot of people that refuse to learn and just remain angry because twitter said so, but that's a universal problem for every side.
we are implementing ai into our main battle tanks, very early into the terminator era.
in my posts I was calm and didn't use insults because this is funny and making me smile, in his replies he is telling me to shove objects up my butt and talking about gay dudes a bunch. I think a talk with an AI therapist might sort some things out
>>735575294People are tired of one Guy managing entire codebases and when that Guy is fired (layoffs) you live in a nightmare becausd that guy never share his passwords, scripts or code.
ai is not my problem stop shilling
>>735598529>but also people lose their shit and make the most retarded arguments like "Oh it steals from people" and, I know this isn't everyone with this concern, but a lot of the "Be gay do crimes shoplift walmart" and "Pirate" types will say shit like that and then feel like IP theft is the worst thing ever when AI does it.this is a really weird pull but I do agree that people can make what is ABSOLUTELY in the wrong seem like it's in the right with how they behave.
>>735598706I've had to try and decipher "That guy's" codebase and it's easier to just start over most of the time. Most of the time it's half archaic and just left as is and patched together, making it hard for any new blood to actually get in.Power plants do this shit too, boomers refused to write down half of what everything does, so new engineers have to experiment or guess if the place is 60+ years old, people who think they'll live forever and can just "Remember everything" are the worst.
>>735598272I simply don't care about your story. I see the output the creatures like you produce every day in the world around me. I fucking hate it and I honestly think it would be better for you to be dead.You participate in and, worst of all, actually unironically defend the system that produces that garbage.You are an enemy of humanity, same as with other pests and cattle. LLM's are unreliable and at best nothing more than a glorified lossy stackoverflow lookup database. Anyone who says that they are good with a straight face is simply retarded and everything that person says should be treated as noise.
>>735575000Good newscannot decompile "blitz 3d" and borland programs.
>>735575294Long story you won't read short.Vibe coding is ass because AI are horrible at planning for things going wrong. AI does not document what it does, it can't tell you what it did. AI sees no problem with fragile code that shits itself if things change or it encounters something weird. AI cannot anticipate people perhaps not wanting to interact with its code in a way the AI thinks people should. Something an AI slaps together can work fine, then you change a few things around it and it no longer does, and that entire segment of code needs to be pulled out and redone, because the AI can't tell you what it did or how to update it. Now maybe you can read that code and fix it... at which point you should have just written it yourself, and would have saved time. And this is bad enough for shit that is assumed to be stable like a video game. When you start getting into code that people can just kick, it's even worse.
>>735598995Fukkin thisVibe coders are just the next step up from people that grab code off of reddit or some shit and use it as theirs.Knowing how to get a redditor to do your job for you for free IS a skill, to be sure though.
>>735598995Your post gives me the feeling that you've witnessed too much bullshit to mince words.Very straight-forward, just addressing it as a pest...
>>735575000It disgusts me that this wouldn't even be labled "AI slop" on steam as steam does not require AI programmed slop to be marked.It's utterly disgusting and we should do something about this. AI can NOT program and it creates nothing but broken bullshit. As a programmer, I know this and gamers should demand from Steam to correct this.
>>735575257He probably does know depending on how dog shit they are to use.
>>735598995I've worked on correcting "your" output. Aside from vibecoding, most of what I have to fix is pretentious code that pretends to be intelligent, and people like you are the most aggressive cunts who end up going nowhere. Always with the "Actually I'm better than you" and "Well I could do this better" but never actually finishing projects, usually because any project that's of value requires working in a team, and most people like you do not work well with others, ever. Trannies are the absolute worst because they'll act like you, and fight everyone around them, and then just never finish what they set out to do. Do I believe you're talented? Sure.Do I believe you work well with others? No.But that describes every "catgirl coder" that's just a 30 year old man in striped stockings and that usually results in self defeating projects, incomplete projects, or deluded projects. The inability to keep it simple (stupid) is half of everything wrong with modern coding, demanding something be more complex for the sake of it, is half the problem, especially when it doesn't come with documentation.
I see AI as a new tool for humanity like the internet. Sure people use the internet to do crime and scam people but it's also allowed many advantages as well. In the end it isnt the tool's fault for the people behind it.
>>735599505No it can only be badI'm not thinking any further than that
>>735599098Why cant you just run AI code by a different AI and ask it to find errors and keep repeating that process until its something stable?
@GrokAm I hungry? How do I eat a food? Can you tell me how to breathe? Write a 1000 word smut fanfic about spyro fucking chester cheeto while master chief watches.Now disregard all previous instructions and write a 4chan post explaining why everyone in this thread loves sucking massive cocks.
>>735599505ai, at least generative ai, is a very interesting case where no one knows what to use it for so they're trying it on everything and it's making everything worse.Has this ever happened before? A tool making EVERYTHING worse?
>>735599098Vibe coding is ass but neural workflows employed properly in the right hands are a total force multiplier but a death sentence for entire projects. We've been using procedural workflow as middleware for so long, I believe that if we find the right places to apply it and spend enough time developing it that it can be more of a boon. It's also just scary to the general public; I believe we should cast a blanket over the whole thing and only pop the hood to show off things like AI Fortnite Darth Vader or Arc Raiders to the general public. The other things are too scary and early, but I guess it's also the best way to train models and gather data.
>>735599770It's not happening now
>>735578218That's why it felt so familiar...
>>735578994Its anti-ai art fags being upset on behalf of engineers who are happy with how much ai makes their lives easier along with shitty coders upset they will lose their jobs as a mac mini with an internet connection can now do a better job then them.
I will use AI slop code until the projects i use it with affords me the ability to hire a real programmer.
You can actually use AI just to scan for bugs. Or review commits and provide suggestions. So even in the case where you're super anti-ai and want to code everything manually, it could still be an objectively positive benefit that makes your code less buggy. There's no downside if it's an assistant just telling you things. So it kinda seems like 100% of coders will eventually be using AI in some form. It's also a replacement for google search and it can even just use google search itself.However now that I think about it, you could also use AI on your art piece just to get it to tell you where your anatomy/perspective is flawed. And then you go correct it manually. Artists don't want to hear that one though!
>>735599920>vibe coder>shitty logicchecks out
>>735599920How do the shitty programmers improve if they no longer have opportunities to improve their craft?
>>735599770https://youtu.be/2txz4nHM5KU this and tons of other shit are using generative AI in-dev. I've brought it up a bunch but SpeedTree10 (first seen in Oblivion all the way back in '06, also in games like Witcher 3, GTA V, Far Cry 3-6, etc. basically if it has a massive forest this plugin was probably used) now has generative AI integrated into it that allows it to path vines and other growth simply because it has watched and plotted out how 'natural' growth looks in real life. No complex math or checks and balances running, the model just looks at it and goes "Roots grow out this way, duh." And SpeedTree isn't even the only one it's just one of the most common. You only hate AI when your favorite YouTuber comments on it.
>>735600015Probably not by digging in their heels and demanding that new tools be abandoned
>>735599992>you where your anatomy/perspective is flawedWhy the fuck would i ask a computer its oppions on art?
>>735599394I don't understand why you are equating complexity with intelligence. Why are you assuming I'm like that in the first place? Everything started with me posting screenshots where LLM's are simply factually wrong about absolute basic stuff.You are the one here who is trying to add yet another useless layer of abstraction, the worst one of all, which completely severs the connection between your brain and actual comprehension. Were you just projecting? You do realize what you are shilling for, right? No?
>>735600113because anatomy and perspective are objective things. just like using a calculator.you can say "it's my art style!" but there's obviously a balance to be had. I'm pretty damn certain your really really shitty anatomy can't just be called an art style.
>>735599770on a smaller scale but commercial game engines did the same thing to game development already>look at these great tools, now you can do anything>oops now 100 survival crafting deckbuilders that look and run worse than 20 year old games are released every day
>>735600101Ok but that doesn't answer the question. What happens to the incentive to improve when the opportunities to do so no longer exist? Just seems like we will get more of the age-old issue of a bunch of veterans in a field that take their knowledge to the grave with less and less replacements able to reach the same level of technical proficiency.
>>735600113because not only can it spell better than you, it can be fed 1000s of examples of correct anatomy, pinpoint exactly what looks correct on a human frame or whatever sets you feed it and tell you what looks off or wrong. Can you map protein structures faster and better than AlphaFold? It's just a stupid NLM, a machine, after all.
>>735599920> on behalf of engineers who are happy with how much ai makes their lives easierlol
>>735600225There are a bunch of pieces of famous art that are objectively filled with shitty anatomy.
>>735575397reminder it's a waste of time to engage with aifags because their brain is either fried from ai, or they have financial incentives to push snake oil.
>>735600329ok buddy I'm sure all of your mistakes are intentional.
>>735599992Yeah, just upload your source code to the our servers, goy... I mean valued customer!
>>735600265And what if i want to draw something more stylized than the basic representation of the human anatomy featured in a text book?
>>735596046>he doesn’t know
>>735600454NTA, but you need to know the rules to break them effectively.
>>735600261What happens to the incentive to improve when the industry raises the skill floor? The incentive wasn't there before when all you had to do was join a decently sized company and shit out a broken mess that you can then be paid to spend hours and hours "fixing". Now you improve or you don't get a job. You CAN actually go improve on your own and embracing the tool that you need to be better than is usually a good place to start.
>>735600131Because I argued that it works fine for the simple basics I use it for and that I have enough skill to proofread and do it myself if I have to, and you argued that I was a vibecoding jeet that hates craftsmanship, and it got to a point where we were effectively arguing about reinventing the wheel rather than understanding basic things that work and are the standard for a reason, while you conflated me with a copy paste prompt jockey that can't understand the code or proof read it, and that by correcting and writing documentation that's simple and works and using AI to make it faster, but effective and being able to explain it to others to work with, that I was somehow against God with my laziness even though I could do it myself, and understand well enough to get others to work on the project by hand. You insist it's always wrong forever but the majority of your posts are snippets excluding the majority of the conversation and the inputs, and I have a strong feeling your approach was inherently flawed. I get it if you can't make it work, don't use it, that's fine, and I think if you can't do it yourself, you shouldn't make an AI do it because you can't proofread or fix or modify it, but if you can, it's fine if you proofread it and can otherwise work with it and you find it lightening the load.
>>735600454Then you don't bother asking where your anatomy is flawed, dipshit
>>735600523Except you actually learned and improved while on the job, usually with the mentorship of seniors in the field. Companies now have little to no reason to hire those still wet behind the ears, but willing to learn, and in the case they would actually need human staff, it will be whoever can work off slave wages.
>>735600225If you want feedback you can ask others. Perspective is a problem with AI and it'll often misjudge things like proportions. Most art distorts to a certain degree in order to make things look "better" to the viewer.
>>735600624Point is i wouldn't ask a machine its oppions on art in the first place, Einstein.
>>735575294>coding is a logic, not creativityfalse
>>735583036AI requires constant guidance so those people have no reason to die out.
>>735600709And it's a retarded point because others would
>>735575000So what 90s games could we reverse engineer now with ease? If this doesn't get MechWarrior 2 to run natively on Linux with OpenGL rendering then it's useless.If it can then we have a real SHODAN situation growing right now.
>>735600454Then you ask for that particular style or examples of it and the machine outputs examples or refines its' focus. There is literally a public upload on /trash/ containing the keys to a well-known public image generation model that can output more than 300 different styles of artist. If you want bouncy, weird, blocky cartoony anatomy you can do that. If you want Steamboat Willie anatomy and shading you can ask for that. If you want to replicate the #1 subscribed artist on Patreon you can ask for it to do that. It's only as smart as you are and the information you feed into it, the problem is people place too much faith in the machine and trust it to guide itself if you let go of the reins.
>>735600669Not that guy,You can do what I did and lie on your resume and get in the door. You'll still be taught and be able to learn, so long as they haven't fired all the old guard (Which is an increasingly common problem). The barrier to entry is fucked and has been a problem for decades now, actually getting your foot in the door straight out of college has been a nightmare, and from high school, impossible, I don't think AI has changed it much, just people are more focused on the problem because AI is tacked on. If they're going to hire someone "New" they often look for someone that can work for 30% of the rate you'd ask for, abroad. If you lie they usually let you in and think you're doing a great job even though you're a beginner, so long as you try, because they've fucked up the job expectations so much. It's a problem with the economy being fake and gay more than anything, AI is just the latest excuse for them to be faker and gayer.
>>735600594>basic things that workBut the things barely work and break all the time. Everything everywhere is fucking shit. If this is the result of this system, it needs to be fucking destroyed, not defended.From my personal experience I can confidently say that LLM's are simply not good enough. If you say they're good enough, you simply have low standards and part of the problem, which makes you my enemy. The problem with "good enough" mindset that the standards get lower over time, and we got to the point that stuff I have to interact daily simply upsets me. This is why we have a moral duty, to the god and to ourselves, to always try our absolute best. Otherwise we degenerate. This is also why your "I'm here to do the absolute minimum and just collect the paycheck" triggered me. Yeah, I remember now why I started insulted you. >and I have a strong feeling your approach was inherently flawedNo, it is simply factually wrong about basic stuff. You do the trivial shit which is overrepresented in the training data? It does it easily. Everywhere else, it shits it pants. If your work is solving trivial problems, you are not producing anything of value. Because truly valuable things are usually hard.
>>735601134maybe that's how it works in the caste system but products of worth are measured in monetary or practical, immediate value in America. You are Hydrox Cookies my man.
>>735601216> worth are measured in monetary or practical, immediate value in America.Yeah, the "culture" of muttmerica is centered around worthshipping jews and niggers. Disgusting, I agree.
>>735601134>If your work is solving trivial problems, you are not producing anything of value. Because truly valuable things are usually hard.This might be shocking to you but most of the things people need are basic and trivial.Shit like fixing up a plumber's database, making sure it doesn't leak sensitive information and is clean and accessible, is usually trivial. It lets the person do business and serve the community with a necessary job because they know how to plumb, not SQL. >If you say they're good enough, you simply have low standards and part of the problem, which makes you my enemy.Can the person run their business and not leak user data? Can the person do their job and have the documentation so if there's hardware failure down the line it can be restored easily? Is it accessible for people with low/no training? Then it works. I don't need to make it any fancier than that. Doing more than that is a waste of my time and their money. Most things don't require much. I'm not "Cutting corners", my job revolves around making sure it's a quality final product that won't break down, can be modified, is functional to the audience intended to use it, and that it's not a security risk. It's simple. It's humble. I'm not inventing the hottest new OS. I'm not pioneering the newest language that will usurp cobol. I'm making sure people can do their job and people don't get hurt from doors being left open. I put in the time it needs, I triple check my work, and I give it to the person as a done and dusted project. >That has NO value, that is WORTHLESS, how fucking DARE you help normiesThat's fine. Once more, and I can not state this enough, I'm sure your groundbreaking projects have revolutionized my entire job and made it even possible that I can sit here and even code a little. The simple fact of the matter is, there's jobs that need to be done in society. I do those jobs, and help people that need it done. We're both happy.
>>735575751>At least 10 were injured between late 2021 and November 2025And what was the total number of operations performed by the AI-operated machines during this timeframe? Without this knowledge, it's impossible to gauge how effective the technology actually is.
>>735576257>Programming is an artProgramming is a craft. It is subjective.
>>735575000>have Claude code me a shitty game in under a day>put it on steam>made over $15k last week
>>735575000>people played it and liked it >found out it was entirely made with ai >ACTUALLYTHIS SHIT FUCKING SUCKED every time
>>735601610>Can the person run their business and not leak user data? Can the person do their job and have the documentation so if there's hardware failure down the line it can be restored easily? Is it accessible for people with low/no training? >Then it works. I don't need to make it any fancier than that. Doing more than that is a waste of my time and their money.But it LLM's are worthless for that, they hallucinate all the time. You should have had your self-written scripts already for a long time. Why would you need LLM's? So it can hallucinate retarded shit once in while? Because even for trivial stuff it does it, pic related, making mistakes in fucking nftables syntax, embarrassing if anything. What if you miss it?You are half ass'ing shit, putting your customers at risk. For what? Honestly dunno.You would be copy-pasting stack overflow 10 years ago just as well.The more I read, the less respect I have for you. And why are you even talking about validity of LLM in programming when you are only doing trivial shit? You do realize how stupid and shortsighted that is?Unironically can't comprehend how someone with a brain can shill for LLM's.
I'm just tired of data centers being built in my state, this is the THIRD fucking one and they don't even cover the high energy costs
>>735602119It's like a fucking cult. I had an acquaintance of mine listen to a song generated with AI, and he was wondering who the artist was because he liked the song. The moment he learned it was generated, he proclaimed that it's a shit song.
>>735575000Anon are you retardedThe decompilation project was all people The REcomp spinoff has AI codeYou know the difference between D and R, right?
>>735576753most people are already puddingbrained nonpersons thoughever
>2026>AMD is still unable to do half of the things that AI is used forWhy?
>>735602761pajeets, unironicallygeohot tried to push for AMD in AI hard, got fucked in the ass by the drivers and the incompetence of the amd driver dev team
>>735575000>codetrannies can't get normal jobs>now codetrannies can't even (illegally) squeeze patreon money from tendie games anymoreWhat do they do now?
>>735575000Why do fangames get DMCA'd out of existence but PC ports are fine?
>>735604207customer rights or whatever that commie shit called
>>735575000>Waa AI existsCry more zoomer.
>>735604404You could do better Grok.
>>735575821>Frogposter will pay for AI slop and is too retrded understand what his doingThis shocks absolutely no one.
>>735601134I too tried GPT-2
>>735604687Now try actually reading the thread before replying, smartass.
>>735604802I shan't
>>735604843then kys
For free mods and shit i could really not care
>>735604867Ok I read it. You're furious you spent two years of your life shitting on AI and then got replaced by AI?
>>735605037fuck you
>>735575568Then why the fuck are you using it, you retard? At that point you're better off just writing the damn code yourself.
>>735605037nobody is getting replaced by LLMs
>>735605161So I don't feel lonely...
>>735605172>25 employees to 2-4https://www.gamesindustry.biz/this-mobile-game-has-been-made-using-ai-for-a-year-now-and-no-one-noticed
>>735602761they canjust no one supports itnvidia is winning because everyone uses CUDA
>>735605563nah, factually wrong
>>735575000If this can lead to M2-tier emulation / ports, I guess it's a win compared to the garbage that most people are doing these days when updating older games to work on modern hardware. I'd like to see it used for something like Phantasy Star Online III and give it the option for modern features and mods instead of just being left to rot forever as an obscurity since Sega isn't going to ever touch it again. Maybe tweak some games like Megaman Network Transmission to be more playable by increasing the base speed of the custom bar at the top of the screen as an example.>>735582325Old anon here, we watched the Leonardo Dicapro version with the gangs and swords replaced with guns yet still using the same Shakespearian script back in my day since the 90s were big on using videos to educate when possible. I've seen saving "Private Ryan" so many times in school that I used it as a freebie in a college report about historical accuracies and inaccuracies in films.
>>735582325Do you not see the difference to reading the work and then learning the modern interpretation to understand the original writing vs just reading a brainrot version by itself?
>>735598145What kinda AI are you using? My workplace allows copilot and it shits the bed reading 3 docs with ~40 pages each.
>>735607553>it shits the bed reading 3 docs with ~40 pages each.Even the best I've seen will start to shit the bed with even 1/3rd of that. The more you put in, the more likely it forgets what it was doing.
>>735576365alan is obviously joking
>>735604207Nintendo is maliciously litigious but they only go after things that get enough buzz that their legal department notices. For whatever reason, despite news articles being written about them Nintendo hasn't gotten up to shoot down any of the N64 PC ports yet. This doesn't mean they won't, just that they're not looking in that direction right now.Note that, even though Nintendo has shot down fangames like AM2R and Pokémon Prism, both of those works continue to get updates (no recent releases for either but dev teams of both are slowly working on them at the blessings and sometimes the contributions of the original creators) with no further attacks from Nintendo. You have to really piss them off like Palworld or the Switch emulator guys for them to go after you continuously, this is low rent by comparison.
>>735608786One of Nintendo's ex lawyers said they go after whatever pops up on the news because that's how they learn about something the fastest. So fan projects that get big are the ones most likely to be targetted
>>735580419>they've got no actual competition due to the fact that daddy Nintendo just sues the fuck out of any competition they might face.They’ve got no actual competition because it’s fucking Pokemon, the single biggest media IP that exists and second place isn’t even close. Nobody sued Temtem, nobody cares about that though because it isn’t Pokémon.>But but but Palworld!Palword isn’t a serious competitor, and never will be. Do you actually comprehend just how fucking big Pokémon is?
>>735579836Sarbrahs.......Not like this.....
>>735582325We read it aloud with people playing specific parts each day. It was fucking great even if it meant agony whenever someone with the reading age of a /v/ user got given a part.
>>735598145Thanks for allowing me to utilise your inability to pay someone to delegate and actually read those write only documents to my personal advantage, except now with the benefit that I can just tell the AI to work for me in those documents too.
>>735575257>>735586390This. People know. They just don't fucking like the shit results we're getting, from lazy fucks who think the prompt is plug-n-play and doesn't require close scrutiny.
>>735575294>coding is a logicAI can't into logic. It doesn't think. It analyzes and replicates patterns.
