Is Charizard a Dragon?
What exactly makes a Pokemon a Dragon?
>>735587158What a retarded chart
>>735587158How the fuck is Gliscor dragon-shaped? It's clearly a scorpion with bat-like wings.
>>735587158>a fucking bug>draconic features
>>735587369How the fuck is Charizard dragon-shaped? It's clearly a lizard with wings.
>>735587158HOW THE FUCK IS WEAVILE A DRAGON
>>735587176Dragon typing
>>735591643So Charizard is not a dragon?
>>735589228Which falls in line with typical depictions of dragons. The entire right column in general is just bizarre.
>>735591767See that pterodactyl? A dragon I say!
>>735591763Exactly.
>>735592124Mega Charizard X has dragon typing
>>735591950What pterodactyl? You mean dinosaurs, classically considered to be lizards, with wings?
>>735592248Y doesn't
>>735587158
>>735592702>literal dragons aren't dragons
>>735593551yes
>>735587158Aerodactyl is not a dragon, therefore, Lance is a Flying-type specialist>but it's a dinosaur! dinosaur in Japanese is-Aerodactylus was not a dinosaur. It's as much of a dragon as Arcanine is
>>735593794>ArcanineThe legendary Pokemon?
Can someone with autist tell me how triple typings would change the competitive landscape? For instance, Charizard being fire flying and dragon
>>735595827It'd make the pokemon have more defensive options, keeping track of three types is a bit of a headache though. If I'm working it out correctly, a Fire/Flying/Dragon type Charizard would gain a weakness to Ice because of Flying and Dragon, it would also lose the Electric weakness because Dragon resists Electric.There's one romhack called Emerald Elite Redux where pokemon have 4 abilities at once, some of these abilities add another type. Parasect for example gets this ability Phantom that adds the Ghost type to it, so Parasect is Bug/Grass/Ghost type. It gains weaknesses to Dark and Ghost but is immune to Normal and Fighting, don't know if it won in that exchange.
>>735595827Charizard now not only get pebbles jokes but also ice cube jokes
>>735595827As someone who has played a few romhacks with three types. Triple types, besides being pretty hard to keep track of, mostly make everyone's defensive typing way way worse. There are a few harmonic combinations, but the odds that something goes terribly wrong go up. Quad weaknesses are generally pretty awful to have, and suddenly they become pretty common. Pokemon having a triple resist or two is nice, but having like six weaknesses and three quads is MISERABLE. Offensively, not that much changes. A handful of pokemon now get Stab on moves they already run for coverage, but a lot more end up with a type they almost never run, STAB or not. This also broadly makes for a "rich get richer" effect, where good types become even better, and bad ones get even worse. Offensive types like Ice, Electric, Ground, and Rock are even more oppressive, especially in combination, because the exact same reasons they are good normally keeps coming up even more. It's a much more offensive meta.
>>735596669tl;dr:Powercreep
>>735587158>>735587176it's a hold over from Gen 1 when pokemon was just a jrpg and dragon type was basically just boss type that resisted the starters. Like how Onix is shit and is just the first bossmon and how gen 1 and 2 have a lot of shitmon
>>735596974>Like how Onix is shit and is just the first bossmonWell would you look at that!Another retard repropagating shit a youtuber told him.
>>735597080you are gay, retarded and fat, zoom zoom
>>735597313And absolutely right.
>>735587158weavile is made for dragon femdom though
>>735591950no arms, so its a wyvern.
>>735597742>baby dragons aren't dragons
>>735597768you stupid? Bro obviously has arms and wings.
>>735597851wrong franchise
>>735598015Pokemon doesn't have any baby dragons.
>>735597360nope
>>735587158There's very little I dislike more than people going "but Yanmega should be dragon type"No he should not be, english is the only language where they're even called dragonflies and Yanmega is based on the Meganeura, the first flying apex predator in earth's historyAnd dragonflies are literally the best fliers in the entire animal kingdom, there's not a single pokemon that deserves bug/flying more than it rant mover
>>735598241Is Beedrill another one of these "bossmons" because it's absolutely garbage after the second gym?Wait, no gym leader even uses Beedrill...
>>735598486Beedrill is just a bad pokemon overall, Butterfree however was designed from the ground up to be an early game powerhouse you dump after the second gymStats are higher than most other pokemon at lv 10, confusion as a level up move that's resisted by nothing up until Starmie, early access to the exceedingly powerful sleep powder
>>735587158>scorpion-bat thing>dragon shapedWhat
>weevil is a kind of bug>weavile is some kind of gremlin thingI never understood this one
>>735598486why would beedrill be a bossmon? it's not an encounter in veridian forest as a wild or trainer pokemon. it's just an early game shitmon. Onix doesn't show up again until rock tunnel as a 5% encounter and victory road
>>735598709Its name is a mix of 'weasel' and 'vile' you retard
starmie is sort of interesting in that it's probably the single most powerful ace any early gym leader ever usedit's genuinely a pokemon that was designed to be a monster for the player to use as well as being a very powerful threat due to it's speed, offense and access to a powerful move
>>735598443it's just people desperate for a bug/dragon out of never used type combo autism.
>>735597080Technically, this is true.Likitung was the first boss pokemon. But then the Normal gym was cut.Misty sure makes a lot more sense as gym 3, huh?
>>735599010sure but there's plenty of other pokemon that could be bug-dragon or just design one from the ground uphonestly you could probably easier justify a scollipede orcentiskorch version that's bug/dragon
Dragon is a very poor choice for an elemental type in a game. A dragon has a few very ubiquitous traits. a) Can flyb) Can breath fire (I will extend this to any standard rpg element)c) Reptile lookingAsk 10 kids what a dragon looks like and 9 of them will point these out.The creature is so linked with flying that you can discount any dragon without the flying type or seen hover/flying as a proper dragon. DragoniteSalamenceLatixsRayquazaDragapultRoaring moonCharizard XHydreigonFlapple
>>735599360>Can breath fireDragons without breathe anything or that breathe poison have been standard in western mythologyWeather control is one of the most archetypical things in eastern dragons, with the elemental powers that bringsVarious cultures all across the world have dragons, but different interpretation of it, it's not a bad typing
>>735587176>>735591763To be fair, there are Pokémon that are in an egg group called Dragon where you can breed with other Dragon types without being a dragon type itself. So, they are a dragon, but not really.
>>735593794Dinosaurs in Japanese literally have dragon in their name.
>>735599605Oh shit it's true.How deep does this rabbit hole go?
>>735599909IT'S A FUCKING FISH
>>735596669not him, but thanks, that was a good post
>>735600002Now look at this dude
>>735599909>>735600114>Want to breed with dragons?>Start doing THIS
>>735598626>Beedrill is just a bad pokemon overallIn FRLG I'd agree but in RBY, where poison is weak to bug, it's good to have against a lot of early trainers and it can even do well against Erika because of 4x twinneedle.
>>735599250I always thought people wanted Flygon to be the bug/dragon. dude really needs his own niche anyway.
>>735587158The only two that are remotely dragon-looking are charizard and dragonite. Everyone else isn't even remotely "dragon shaped" or "draconic".
>>735587158>Is Charizard a Dragon?No, Charizard a shit
>>735601271Squirtlebro?
>>735587158Are bats really dragon shaped though?
>>735601479Noivern and Noibat say yes.
>>735587158Charizard and Aerodactyl are the two pokemon that look the most like a dragon. Guess what both of them ain't?
>>735587176If it has dragon type energy, it’s that simple.
>>735601563>NoiVERNIt's a wyvern and wyverns aren't dragons
>>735601887A wyvern is a type of dragon.
>>735601887It's literally a dragon tho
>>735587158>30 years>still no regional/split evo dragonite that remains serpentine
>make a t rex>call it a dragon
>>735603797The mega fucked up every chance we had at this
>>735593551if you would please consult the chart >>735592702
>>735603849what else would it be? a "fanged wyvern"?
>>735603797Good, eastern dragon that becomes western dragon is such a cool unique idea and any out would dilute that
>>735604029What's cool about it, being different or unexpected does not make something cool
>>735604029>Dragonite>western dragonlollmao even
>>735605310barney is western
>>735605767Barney is a dinosaur or an autistic schizo.
>>735599360There is a difference between "a Dragon" and dragon energy. Like Birds <> Flying type and Fishes <> Water type.
>>735601887>wyverns aren't dragonsSays who faggot? D&D? Lmao
>>735599789Aerodactyl's Japanese name is Ptera, it's also based off of a Pteradactyl called Aerodactylus, Pteradactyls aren't dinosaurs
>>735607960>Pteradactyls aren't dinosaursOnly faggots say this
>>735607960Do you have evidence for that?
