MARATHON HAS HIT 1.2 MILLION COPIES SOLD!!!!!!!!
>>735643014*GULP*PSbros??? What the FUCK is this?????
>>735643014Is marathon on gamepass?
random blogger isn't a source. If it's not from Sony or Bungie it's no different from one of you retards claiming it here and someone writing a blogpost about it
1.2mill minus one
>>735643107console players were clearly not ready for a hardcore extraction game
>3.6 billion dollar studio acquisition>250 million dollar budget for game development>48 million dollar revenueHoly shit, bros, this game is doing gangbusters.
>>735643014I'm glad for Bungie and everyone who enjoys Marathon. I will still not be playing it.
>>735643107>pc troons eat literal dogshit slop >console chads are too smart tovolumes
>Marathon didn’t flopChuddies are fucking crying bro. Don’t show them this!!!
and people says Crimson desert 3 millions is bad...
>>73564334633.6m, you mean, without the Gaben Tax™ at the very least. I imagine the meager MTX might cover the taxes.
>>735643014>alinea analyticsisn't that the same bunch of retards who said that AC Shadows sold 5 million copies on PS5 alone?
>>735643014who the fuck is alinea analytics
If this was true, they would have celebrated with a gay social media post.
>>735643014400K DISCORD MEMBERSYOU LOST CHUDTRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS
unless a studio announcement backs this up it means exactly nothing
>>735643014Alinea makes up all their sales numbers and just guess based off off of steam review counts which literally anyone can do. and they don't even have any pseudo-reliable console method. they have been proven wrong every time now.
>>735643107I don’t know why Pcfags whined about Sony not porting single player games to pc anymore. All they play is multiplayer goyslop
>>735643014I'm a Bungiebull and I'm still in disbelief that Battleflop 6 is eating our lunch. Consumers SUCK.
>>7356439842000s era vgchartz but somehow way worse and yet people take them more seriously because their name sounds like a real market research company.
>>735643427It didn't even recoup a quarter of its budget thoughAnd these are generous estimates
>>735643014budget status?
>>735643014press S to spit on Bungie's grave
>>735643107but I thought the cope was that consoles sales (which aren't reported) always amount to 6-7 gorillion times PC sales?
>>735643346>48 million revenue Nah you are not counting advertising (heard the retarded Twitch peanut was paid at least 2 million to shill this slop), or the steam cut, Maratroon is beyond fucked
>>735644603>Consumers SUCK.No, Marathon sucks.
>>735643107https://x.com/nib95_/status/2034375458054119825
ban marathon hate threadshttps://files.catbox.moe/qr5s4y.mp4
>>735644839they have no idea what the fuck the console sales are and got called out for being way off on the re requiem split
This shit is selling around what Veilguard did. It gets worse when you remember this game cost $40
>>735643014Sticky all Marathon hate threads
>>735645063Does that mean Bungie is getting sold to Saudi Arabia?
New game coming out
>>735643014
I was told the majority of players were on console though.
>>735646121the only way to determine that is a public statement by bungie. alinea can't be used as a source for that becaause they have gotten it wrong every time.
>>735645008all meno I wont stop
>>735646121that's just cope bungietards were using to try and discredit steam charts numbers
>>735646194It’s already confirmed >>735645680
NICE!I am gonna crank up my blasts i am having to 11 to celebrate.
>>735646437why are you believing some random /v/ post
>>735643014KEKAROOO
>>735646121Apparently on consoles if you turn off crossplay it takes 10 mins to find a game
This news is making me not have a blast.
>>735646486Who should I believe then? The trannies in Era or Reddit having blasts all over the game?
>>735643014>steam is 70 percent of populationconsoleCHADS keeping the world in a better place
>>735645063>playercounts are close to realitywho could've guessed that steam charts are accurate
>>735643402Lets be honest, if marathon released on the switch tendiepedos would've lapped it up especially if there was a mario skin in game
>we sold 800k copies on steam guys!>no barely more than 10% have ever been on at once why would they be
>Alinea analyticsSo we still don't know what the sale figures are.
>>735647039Imagine how tense the dev office is
>>735647010But tendies will have the superior extraction shooter developed by Miyazaki himself
>>735647430They scared shitless.
FUCK YOU, IM HAVIN’ A BLAST!!!!
>look babe, they're still obsessing over marathon
>Less than half the sales of a single player game anti-shills have been having a shitfit aboutBlast chads won. GaaS niggers have no power anymore.
>>735643574So you're saying 1.2 mill is being generous?
>>735643107sold 800k on steam and only makes 40k peak concurrent players and keeps getting lower
>>735643014I don't get how people still fall for embedded ads dressed up as 'articles' these days.
>>735643220Eh, it's from someone who gets paid to make estimates for a living. It's probably not that far off.
>>735644667They actually just copy paid bloomberg,
Look at the author name lmao
I'M HAVING A->checks note card BLAST!
I love how blasting went from a quiet sensible knowing chuckle amongst /v/irgins during Concord to wall to wall pandemonium in the normie sphere lol
>>735652439Knock knock.
>>735651890>>735652439I know crazy right
>>735643107Hmm gaben could buy another 2 yachts by doing nothing
>>735652854Wait, that dude did 5 hours of Star Wars Outlaws and found it amazing, then 6 hours of Asscreed Shadow and found it amazing, then 7 hours of Concord and found it amazing, then 8 hours of Highguard and found it amazing, then 21 hours of Marathon and found it amazing.Is it me or is he inflating the time with each video games? Will the next Concord like be 97 hours and he found it amazing
>>735647430Sony recently cut loose all their contractors on fairgame even though the games new director wanted to hire more for the final crunch before release as they dont have the staff to finish it on time. Horizon is also a certain car crash because it was a console bundle title, like wii sports lol no one actually paid money for it so it never actually sold a single copy.
>>735643014>(,,,)the game underneath the surface is a masterwork of design. There's a lot to love about Marathon- and the show aint over yet.Look at this goddamn shill. This is why nobody trusts game journos. Bungie could personally come to their houses and leave burning bags of shit on their doorsteps and they'd write articles praising the grace with which the troon Bungie employee shat in the bag in the promotional video and how the aroma of the shit was on par with scented candles. 10/10, signing up for their poop delivery service!>1.2 millionThat's on the lower end of what I've been assuming. For a game this expensive with this level of pedigree behind it, that's catastrophic.
The sheer amount of cope from marathonshills is hilarious
>>735653220Maybe they're giving him more time?>>735653430No. According to the paid game diviners, 1.2 is a medium high estimate.
This is bad news
Gta sold 200 million
>>735653726>Maybe they're giving him more time?Nah but he's exponential with that shit.Horizon Hunter Gathering will be "954 hours passed" and he found it amazin. By those numbers, there will be a moment when he'll reach a video game getting EoS before he was supposed to find it amazing, or something.I mean the entire thing is funny, but the fact that he only increases the numbers for each subsequent articles is even funnier.
>>735653770Sony isn't EA, they have more realistic expectations
>>735653987Bungie laid off 34% of their studio when Destiny 2: Lightfall underperformed (314k peak on steam)
>"There's no need to worry. Horizon Hunters Gathering will help us recoup our loses."
Holy shit this game literally will be dead in 2 months and I almost bought it unironically. It really is Concord 3.
>>735654147>After playing 64 hours of Horizon Hunters Gathering, I can only admit it was a masterpiece all along
>>735653957That sony sent a survey asking people how they felt about the game shortly after the trailer came out. This shit is already cancelled.
>>735654467One of the funniest things about this clown show industry is Sony falling for their own gaslighting about how popular the Horizon series was.
>>735654863it could work for a smaller studio project *if* it wasn't a literal concord-like
>>735652148paid to do something doesn't mean shit
>>735654970What do these games even have in common? "I dont like them" Like concord and highguard make sense, they both were dead on arrival, but marathon is doing drastically better than both combined
>>735655053That graphic was made before Marathon even launched.
>>735654970The 300 pounds pink haired one legged woman isn't really a good optic for a character, no matter how much you want to sell it, unless it's a joke character.I mean the only thing worse I can think for a character is pic rel
>>735655053Concord was an unexpected DOA catastrophe. Nobody expected Highguard to do anything but die, and it behaved as expected. And neither came from one of the oldest AAA studios in vidya.Marathon basically flopped on its launch weekend, but it didn't bomb. What we're seeing now is the game wither and slowly die as it bleeds players. I just wonder where the tipping point is before the matchmaking system starts to break. 15k CCU? 10k? People are already reporting slowdowns in those 'remote regions' of the UK and Italy, and that's with the game struggling to keep its head above 45k.
>>735655206you're still posting it today though
>>735655235The internet is already making jokes about how she lost her leg to diabetes. There’s no way they can expect us to take her seriously as a warrior.
>>735654970Remember what they took from you...
>>735655480Even if the whole project was a shitshow that never should have happened in the first place SEGA was at least smart enough to pull the plug when they did. The problem is that Creative Assembly learned nothing from the whole fiasco.
>>735655480absolutely kino tortanic
>>735655480>>735656194Realisticaly, how much bigger the hit for Sega and Relic would have been if it released? Both in money and PR.
>>735656335Creative Assembly.
>>735656335It's more about some kind of bullshit tax thing where if you kill a product before it's available to consumers, you can call it 'R&D' that gives you better write offs or lets you allocate the money you spent somewhere else when it's financial reporting time. It's something corporations can do where they put all their losses in one department to make other departments look better.
It's over
>>735656335Sega would had to sell some IPs to recoverThey are already in a pretty bad situation right now
>>735643014>It took Marathon 18 days to sell 1/3rd the amount of units that Crimson Desert and Pokopia did in a weekend
Speaking of humiliation rituals here's this. Paid by Sega, spread by Capcom, made by a YouTuber who once was seen as a hero by the Kirby fandom.https://youtu.be/0WY7Y_Hierc?si=r9781G5xFWg7h9mb
>>735656335If it is true that cancelling allowed them to claim a tax write off then releasing it would have been a significantly bigger financial impact on them. Wouldn't have mattered either way for Creative Assembly since they weren't bankrolling it but the outcome of the majority of their bloated workforce getting yeeted when money dried up would have been the same. And they would have still been abusing their only cashcow, Total War Warhammer, regardless. The whole situation from start to finish including all the internal restructuring and strangling of other product lines in favour of trying to push out Hyenas should be a case study of retarded business behaviour.
>>735656480Sony could have made so many cozy games with the money they sunk into Marathon.
>>735656604But those couldn't have made the theoretically infinite money that GaaS can, so that isn't viable in their eyes. Only infinite forever money where the line goes ever upwards for eternity are to be considered for development. Surely the next one will land and make them unlimited money from the modern audience.
>>735643014>>735656480IT GETS EVEN WORSE
>Estimates
>>735655235Pic related. It's from Bleeding edge. A proto concord. She has a buzzsaw wheelchair.>>735655053>What do these games even have in common? Just lurk more anon.
>>735656335It would have been big enough for shareholders to not only notice but actually fucking do something. They might have had to sell part of the company to Tencent like Ubisoft did.
Players are just resting after grinding and having fun with Cryo Archive all weekend.Word of mouth from Cryo Archive will spread and Marathon will steadily gain double the amount of players and break through 100k+ players by the end of next week.
reminder that new world had close to 20 million sales and is still consired a flop
>>735656958I wonder how do the devs pitch this shit to higher up execs and shareholders.
>>735643402>console chads are too smart toLook up what the top 10 most played games on PS5 are. It's all F2P live service slop and sports games.
>>735657508Execs and shareholders don't care about the actual content of the game. They act on the promises that X service model will bring in Y profits for Z amount of time.
>oh no no no no no>MARASISTERS WHAT HAPPENED!?>I THOUGH CONSOLE WAS SAVING US!?
>>735651748they dont count returns or refunds. lmaoooo
>>735643508dont forget refunds.
HUZZAH!
Holy shit, that's 48 million dollars. What did Bungie cost?
>>735658119Console gamers are literal subhumans, which is why so many of them enjoyed Destiny 2.
>>735643014Been a while since I've been inspired
>HEARTBREAKING NEWS>marathon flopped!>AWESOME SAUCE NEWS>marathon sold well!god i hate this gay ass board…
>>735658935And two of those doesn't even have their Switch 2 ports ready for another fucking huge sales boost.
>>735659070I know I should be happy with the victory proving its success but I just feel like the chuds are winning still
>>735643508>gaben tax30% is the industry standard
>>735653220He did a gaming marathon for marathon
>>735658935The Marathon symbol looks like the magnifying glass you need to find the game’s users.
>>735659992I see it as something else
>>735658119Something like 2/3rds of all PS5 players only play like one game and its always a sports game or multiplayer title
>>735643014That is nothing for a modern AAA game
>>735652738Same thing happened with the word 'Slop'
>>735647039>>735651748This just prove PCtrannies don't play games
>>735653987>Sony isn't EA, they have more realistic expectationsAnon… Snoy expected Concord to be a Star Wars level multi-media IP
>>735658841Bungie cost Sony $3.7b in 2022, and Marathon cost somewhere between $250m and $400m if you factor in marketing.
>>735661525How the hell did Sony think Bungie was worth that much? It’s one poor decision after another. They did this as. Reaction to Microsoft making so many acquisitions. Lol
>>735661961Sony is not known for making sound business decisions in the gaming sphereI think they bought Bungie purely because Microsoft was buying studios left and right at the time, Bungie had broken away from MS on bad terms after Halo, and so Sony panic bought them.
>>735661961Anyone could guess. I think Sony America had a huge hardon for live service slop at the same time they were feeling threatened by Microsoft buying Activision, so they impulse bought Bungie and paid twice, maybe three times what they were worth.
>>735643107Its on Xbox?
>>735662161>>735662202Yup that’s what I think but they overpaid big time. So retarded.
>>735663010There's no question Sony overpaid. Even Microsoft (allegedly) was going to buy Bungie when they were on their buying spree, saw what Bungie was asking for, then laughed and walked away.
>>735663430An individual rarely gets 'laid off.' It was probably someone who got sacked but is saying something else to not look as bad.
If 30k players are 70% of marathon's population, holy shit no body plays this garbage on consoleAnd somehow this glossed over their fake stats
>>735657273>releases weekend only content>no reason to play during the weekBungoe is retarded
>>735663896Don't you farm keys during the week to use on the weekend map?
Marathon :Day 1: 88,337 (Thursday)Day 2: 78,498 (-9,839) (-11.14%) (Friday)Day 3: 75,133 (-3,365) (-4.29%) (Saturday)Day 4: 77,371 (+2,238) (+2.98%) (Sunday)Day 5: 66,593 (-10,778) (-13.93%) (Monday)Day 6: 62,495 (-4,098) (-6.15%) (Tuesday)Day 7: 60,649 (-1,846) (-2.95%) (Wednesday)Day 8: 57,246 (-3,403) (-5.61%) (Thursday)Day 9: 59,357 (+2,111) (+3.69%) (Friday)Day 10: 58,729 (-628) (-1.06%) (Saturday)Day 11: 62,830 (+4,101) (+6.98%) (Sunday)Day 12: 53,846 (-10,830) (-14.30%) (Monday)Day 13: 54,414 (+568) (+1.05%) (Tuesday)Day 14: 51,731 (-2,683) (-4.93%) (Wednesday)Day 15: 47,959 (-3,772) (-7.29%) (Thursday)Day 16: 56,683 (+8,724) (+18.19%) (Friday) [Cryo Archives]Day 17: 53,569 (-3,114) (-5.49%) (Saturday)Day 18: 53,678 (+109) (+0.20%) (Sunday)Day 19: 44,371 (-9,307) (-17.34%) (Monday)Day 20: 42,091 (-2,280) (-5.14%) (Tuesday)Trend vs Day 1: -46,246 (-52.35%)
>>735665663basedWhen Marathon goes EoS I hope you'll pick a new live service shit to report on
Another week, another 10k players lost.
>>735653957FLEEKAZOID made a hilarious video about Horizon Hunter Gathering.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9PtFeET62E
>>735665743Hunter Gatherings or Fairgames are next ;)
>>735665663-52% player loss in 20 days, fucking brutal.
>>735666284Fairgames will sadly never actually see the light of day.
>>735643402>Boots up FIFA for the billionth time
>>735656503The fuck does that have to do with anything here?
>>735666317>>735665663Funny thing is that it's still on some sales charts. It's just losing more people than it's gaining. It's still in it's "honeymoon phase" It hasn't dropped to whatever it's stable population is, and they're pulling out all the stops with cryo archive and the not an embargo, and rejiggering regions, fuck latency if there's no players to fill a game.It could survive a 50 percent loss if it's peak was high to begin with, but it wasn't even highguard level.Amazingly, it's still not clear whether highguard or this game is the bigger failure yet.
>>735666690Cryo archive already ended retardIf you want to actually shit on the game, keep up with the news. The compiler is a lame boss and the meta is just bubble shield, frag grenade, and wstr spam. Unless bungie changes up the meta and reduces team count per map, it will always be a clusterfuck.
>>735643402800k pcs = 0.000001% off PC playerbase350k PoS5 + Lelbox= 20% of the Console playerbaseWho's really laughing?
>>735666690Highguard was the bigger failureWhile the other Concords were blockbusters, this one will be a spine tingling slow burn with Sony desperately throwing more money, marketing/shills and ecelebs at the problem.It's most hilarious thing is retarded shills who barely play games calling it a "masterpiece of game design".
>>735666781Compared to 90% of shooters these days, it is pretty good. Sadly Bungie seems to be making all the wrong fucking decisions since it came out.
>>735666690Bro it dropped to 27th place on SteamSure theres a sale going on but look at where sts2 and cd are placing
>>735643014>heavily shilled $40 game only sold 1.2 million in nearly a monthdidn't resident evil requiem sell 6 million within the same timespan?
>>735666690I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a "free to play" weekend like Battlefield did a few days ago, and if things are really dire, going full F2P. I wouldn't pay $40 for it in the first place, mostly because paying for live service games is a gamble (and asinine to say the least, I'm not paying $20 for cosmetics and currency on top of $40 game), but I'd be willing to try for free.
>>735666808There are Doom mods being released at this very moment thag easily beat it.
>>735666739Exactly. I'll slow it down for you anon.Cryo archive didn't result in attracting more people to the game beyond it's initial run, or any viral effects.I'm not sure if there's any changes to cryo archive that can stop the bleeding. >>735666816...and losing more players than whatever 27'th place is. But the point is noted. Honeymoon's ending.>>735667016Free weekend would only work if they think that they have hot shit that's attractive and people just need to see more of it. Like if they successfully added some hot shit that changes peoples opinions. But it's high profile with a huge ad campaign. I don't think it will work in it's current state.
>>735667096And I play those too, I especially like Samsara. Unfortunately, slaughter maps get boring after a while.
>>735667148The main problem is there's little variety in map and enemies. There's only like two events and they're on dire marsh, the worst fucking map and after playing through the standard three they get very samey since every shell wants to play the same way and shotty/sniper meta is supreme. Ranked added functionally nothing except getting rid of a few freekit shitters and Cryo is just a snoozefest until it becomes a killbox in the center.Then there's the rubberbanding and stupid matchmaking issues. I really like the core game, but there isn't a lot of content overall and there's severe balance issues.
>>735644585?Single-player games that don't release 2 years later are also successful on PC.
>>735649882>t.
>>735643014>1.2 mil copies sold>At $40 each>for a gross earnings of $55 mil>1.2 mil x 40 = 48 mil gross not 55Lol. Lel. Lmao. I don't know who the fuck Alenia Analytics is, but they can't do middle school math, they require an NDA to be signed for anybody who requests a demo of their "system" which is supposed to track sales analytics for game publishers (even though they get told this shit by the platforms themselves) and their founders are former investors who made their money doing... Investing? Their linked-ins are more barren than Marathon's servers so who the fuck knows.Anyways, these turbokikes have the ears of many major game publishers, and help direct the perceived interests of the public by feeding completely bullshit sales figures to said publishers. This generates a false impression of what gamers want, and as such these leering homos should be politely tarred and festhered for their lying faggotry.
But that's nothing...
>>735653957Why do leftist deva always put a color streak in their characters hair. Can they design anything original lol. Such trash
wait didn’t the dev say they’d change cryo and ranked a bit and pull at levers and quick fixes first? they changed it so that cryo runs thursday to sunday and ranked runs sunday to thursday. was he actually legit?
>>735657508My theory between this, Marathon and all the other shit is that the hr departments hires nigs and women who toss out the most awful ideas but the actual talent knows better than to actually point it's bad so they just ship shit until bankruptcy starts tearing its head.
>>735644795based and rooster pilled
So it flopped and slopped?
>>735665663Hold or sell?
KEK
>>735659070Lol holy fuck newfag kill yourself
>>735668312kek someone needs to continue this by adding the blown away and hooked shit.
>>735643014>yfw you didn’t play this garbage
>>735668312So /r/PS5 is just doing /v/ memes? Is this ironic or actually bots?
>>735668312I’m hooked and blown away.
>>735667572yes.https://nitter.net/MarathonDevTeam/status/2036594154642481570#m
>>735668410Reddit is legitimately like 40%-50% bots at this point. Any gay slogan is almost certainly bots.
>There’s a lot to love about marathon-and the show ain’t over yet.holy reddit lmao
>>735666014I love eceleb 94749465!
>muh GaaSwho cares?
honestly im just happy for more weird porn on the horizon
>>735668591so if you want to actually talk to anyone whose straight and normal, you go to reddit because theres no actual gays there, its all bots?
>>735667572>>735668565Can someone compile what he said?
>>735666808bungie has been making every possible wrong decision for the past decade
>it's a flop because I say it is
>>735671305off the top of my head >730k units sold, not 1.3m >73, 21, 6 were the platform splits, not what alinea reported>no pve/single player mode coming, they’re just looking for quick fixes >night maps aren’t reskins but actual new maps>somy forced them to release before the end of q1, otherwise they would have done more betas and released fall 2026
Havin a BlastMakin a SplashPlayin Marathon til there's a rash on my ass
>>735643014>55M in revenue>250M budget>3B spent on buying studiooh no no no
>>735668312
>>735643014>it wasn't even announced by Bungie themselves Massive cope
>>735665663ok why did it have such a big drop this week? i thought the endgame content was dropped and everyone was having a blast?
>>735643107Im shocked it told above 100k on xboxPS players hate live service games and have been giving sony the middle finger for their terrible game management as of late
>>735671690kek sony must be fucking seething because most of playstation revenue comes from third party live service games like fortnite and cod
>>735657273Good chance it will fall below 40K peak number on Wednesday.
Reminder that this is even worse than it looksIt means Sony is losing even more money because Valve is taking a cut from each Marathon sale/MTX transactionDoing shit on PS5 means they dont get 100% of the cut
>>735654970Missing the prequel
>>735643107>sony dumped a cuckillion for steam to make money off of nothingjesus
It's funny how the retards in this thread at chimping out with glee that gaming will become a dead media.
>>735647039>>735647430Daily reminder there were redditors buying like 5 copies or the game or gifting copies to people lol.
>>735672072KEK
>>735672006If western devs keep going the dei route, then they will be responsible for their own demise.Good riddance.
>>735643014Where's Christopher Dring's take on it?
>>735672006It's funny that you retards want people to support the game you don't want them to play
>>735671514Sounds more realistic than what Paul tassi is peddling
>>735643014Game is fun but the artstyle and colour pallet can be a lot to get over imo.
>wipe three purple geared to the teeth teams>also do one of those puzzles so you better have grinded for a keyfuck's your problem nigga
>>735661961>that made haloao obviously if they work for *me* I get a halo.
>>735671594It has something for everyone!
BUT CHUDDAH WHAT IF-
>>735643014steam charts don't add up to this propoganda piece
>>735658119Like steamiewienies are any better
>>735643508I'm sure skins for the hideous characters will sell zillions
You know what the funniest thing is? Destiny 2 still has way more players than marathon because of consoles
>>735643014>4billion investment for thisKek. I bet Sony's vidya division operates at a massive loss.
>>735678304Is that ccu or dau
>>735672604Top busy writing a piece about Bloomberg's report on Switch 2 production.
>>735671590Bungie also caused a loss 204 million to snoy before they released marathon.
why is it some analytics company making an educated guess and not the actual numbers from the company?
>>735643107I bet my right arm this did not actually sell 800k on PC.
I like this game, I can find some total nerd with purple shield and god-tier gear and just 1 nade and spray and take it all.the TTK is unironically good for countering sweaties.
>>735679192Because as much as people love these threads, modern AAA companies rarely give hard numbers at launch and wait like 3 years after release to hit you with the post mortem.>zomg bros assassins creed shadows has no official sales figures at launchmuch like their past like 8 assassin's creed gamesUnless it does genuinely amazing, it's not strategically useful to make that information public, especially if the game is multiplayer.
>>735643014BLAST HAVERS, WON BIGLY
>>735654970>concord like>different genre, art style, pricing model, audienceGo back to Youtube.
>>735672072My fucking friend did that to us and we kindly refused once we saw that it was an extraction shooter.
>>735679609Live service slow paced shooter for console players, intentionally ugly, paid entry, resetera alone.
>>735679715>for console playersMost the players are on pc by far though>intentionally uglyget filtered desuthe art style sucks because it's incoherent with the lore itself, not because its dei or whatever buzzword you have on the ready.If you're saying "wah wah please everyone" then as the zoomers say, sybau.>paid entryOh, right. I thought Concord was f2p for some reason.
>>735653770nobody remembers being naked with the starter gun being extremely overpowered because the dev team couldn't into math
>>735643346this is proof games are a bubble inflated by morons, the fact a game can sell A MILLION full AAA price copies and still fails is insane considering it's all digital assets
>/v/ calls the game shit because the few reviews that came out before they even had a chance to fully experience the game were middling>players all love it>reviews from those that took bungie's advice and spent longer with the game start coming out>they're all glowing>/v/ still thinks the game is shitjust admit you simply want to hate the game because youre a faggot who doesnt even play video games
>>735643107Steampigs are the ultimate slopsummer.
>>735679802>Most the players are on pc by far thoughThe only real data we have are steam charts, which look abysmal and don't suggest 800k at all, and the supposed source at Bungie claiming PC is the largest player pool. You are brown.
>>735652854so review companies have employees who review the slop no one else wants to? kinda feel bad for him
>>735643014I''m shocked, this game actually fixed extraction shooters.It's basically Halo + Tarkov + Battlefield
>>735680060>don't suggest 800k at allSo you're telling me a game launches at 80k active, currently has 27k active on a weekday post launch, yet you can't believe it sold in that ballpark?>and the supposed source at Bungie claiming PC is the largest player poolI didn't even think of that, thanks for corroborating my argument.Back to the main point, anyone that played Concord would get filtered from Marathon due to genre choice alone. As I said, back to Youtube.
>>735643014>13k>lol, lmao evenSNOY AND BUNGLE ARE HAVING A BLAST!
>>735655053>What do these games even have in common?over inflated budgets with companies begging for gaas success, 3/4 are also sony paid projects
>>735680160Correct, there is no world where 800k people buy a multiplayer only game at launch for $40 and simply do not play it at its most active.
>>735680160cont.Well actually it was 88k active at launch.Currently it has 15k active but it fluctuates depending on time of day (US centric audience?)
>>735680060I don't use Steam
>>735643014Not even funny to mess with the shills anymore it's like picking on a kid with Down's it's funny for a minute then I just feel bad
>>735680247You don't play Marathon either.
>>735680206Anthem>>735680168I followed up here >>735680220Either way having 88k at launch, 700-800k units sold would not be unusual.
>>735643107consoles are basically fifa + fortnite machines these days, nobody is actually buying gamesthis is the real reason why sony even attempted to port first party titles to pc
>>735680329What about it? If they claimed 6 jewlion on PC, they're lying too.
>>735680289Yeah and apparently no one else does either
>>735672006>gaming will become a dead media.>games having lower budgets>quality becomes a higher priority>the people in charge will only be gamers or gaming adjacentsounds great
>>735680361source: trust me bro> Spider-Man 2 went on to sell five million after just 11 days on sale. And now, Sony has confirmed it’s sold 10 million after 107 days on sale.
>>735680431Imagine being stupid enough to believe this.
>>735680289I do though. Not everyone is a SteamieI pirate all of my non MP games
bungie dev claimed that it sold 730k units and that had them spooked
>>735680405Purging the cancer will make games better
>>735680383The alleged 700k is actually a low ball estimate from third party analytic services. Actual number they argue is 847k - 1.16 million on PC.Bungie doesn't give out actual numbers, as AAA studios typically do not unlessA.) the game breaks recordsB.) the game is 3 years old and they can safely shit talk their own product
>>735680458Show of brown hands, copy with timestamp now.
>pozzed game isn't doing well>"I don't care because I'm not the target demo for this game">LOLOL WOKOID IS HAVING A MELTY OVER HIS FLOPSLOP LMAOLMOAOLELEOLELP>pozzed game is doing well>"I don't care because I'm not the target demo for this game">LOLOL CHUDDIE IS HAVING A MELTY OVER WOKEKINO LMAOLOTROLOTLOROLDCan you disgusting poop-colored zoomoids stop trying to fucking TORtanic every game your favorite e-celeb tells you to give a shit about?
maratroon, desu.
>>735680456>the steam machine will kill consoles trust me bro>what do you mean groundhog day?
>>735680489Ok. 800k buyers still don't translate to 80-40k peaks.
>>735680496They unironically would get filtered trying to play the game, they can't even form an opinion that's not borrowed.
>>735643346legitimately what were they thinking with that bungie acquisition?-not particularly amazing IPs-studio clearly past its prime with most original talent gonethey couldve funded dozens of fresh studios with that money.
>>735680012>Paid shills and Bungies discord groomers gave it positive reviews so it's good Lmfao
>>735680168>Bongle devs right now when Sony starts axing studiosThe amount of money they wasted on this shit is unreal.
>>735680493*Squeee* *Weeee* *Squeee*Huh? The paygpiggy is trying to communicate!
>>735680534Yeah they do. Concurrent players are usually a tenth of launch salesEvery single game follows this.Do you think Elden Ring had 900k concurrent because it sold 900K copies?
>>735680517>random sönygger babble
It's the most astroturfed piece of shit I've ever seen on r*dd*t since deathloop. It's fucking crazy lmao, they REALLY want those $3,5 billion to pay off
>>735680559Complete panic knee jerk reaction to Microsoft buying Bethesda
>>735680496>I don't care and that's why I have been posting 24/7 for 3 weeks about itLol
>>735680534>argument: the vibesMultiple analytic services are coming to the same conclusion. In the context of PlayStation, 1.16 million units sold is horrible. You don't need to argue whether or not the number is even accurate.Especially with AAA, a good portion of people buying the game never play it. See tutorial trophy achievement rates in mainstream games and come back.
>Thread shitting on Bungie sales gets deleted >This one stays up Noticing
>>735680559A bunch of retarded boomers who thought Bungie = Halo: CE, not realising it's been 20 fucking years and all the talent left ages ago.
>>735680628the three million steam decks out there will kill the switch
>>735680647Reddit is doing bad if I use a non ad free YouTube it's completely plastered with reddit ads about "adulting tips" and "sports talk" they're completely fried
>>735680598Concession accepted, darkie.
>>735679802>the art style sucksI dunno why people say this, it's subjective and at the very least it's novel and doesn't look like anything else.I think the corpo cutscenes are pure art. https://youtu.be/VH_RCO9gw0Q?t=365
>>735680672>In the context of PlayStation, 1.16 million units sold is horrible.Source? Can you provide Marathon budget data
>>735680707Halo is a shit game though, it wouldn't hold up if it released today
>>735680496No one cares about you're fucking RuneScape in space Grandpa we're Bazzin and Blastin' now. Why are you gatekeeping laughing at retarded trannies?
>>735679802>the art style sucks because it's incoherent with the lore itselfNo it's not
>>735680754there's a big lack of single player shooters right now desu.
>>735680754Fair, but if you're a retarded boomer who has fond memories of playing Halo:CE when you were in college two decades ago you make senile, stupid decisions.
>Nexon’s SEA shills
>>735680815No there isn't.Marathon sold three times as much as Dark Ages, a full budget AAA single player fps, while costing probably half as much if not less
>>735680747It looks good at a glance, but falls apart once you try to perceive it as plausible in context.>every company logo looks like a qr code becuase... uh... it's satire!!!>this long stranded alien planet has functional infrastructure that all looks 3d printed last week>everything is colored as if it's a large futuristic sporting event>everything is marked with what appears to be computer vision markers even though the level of technology far exceeded that since 2015It's no Mirror's Edge where everything clicks into place.
>>735680739
>>735680747>>735680797cont. >>735680898Also I don't get the idea of giving everyone fashionista lip stick and full staturation outfits in a high stakes reconnaissance mission. Cool on paper, brain dead in practice.
>>735680898The art direction gives me a fucking migraine. It's absolute trash.
>>735671894wasted
>>735672261Ok retard tell us whats DEI about this game
>>735681029gato sexo
>>735680898You're literally retarded>every company logo looks like a qr code becuase... uh... it's satire!!!It's already happening today>this long stranded alien planet has functional infrastructure that all looks 3d printed last weekIt basically was all 3d printed and why wouldn't it be functional, there are basically glownigger robots lurking around 24/7 now>>everything is colored as if it's a large futuristic sporting eventIt basically was a one big commercial for big corporations. They funded the entire operation, why wouldn't all items have their logos everywhere? You think Amazon or McDonald wouldn't be plastered everywhere if they funded a Mars colony?>>everything is marked with what appears to be computer vision markers even though the level of technology far exceeded that since 2015That's the only point I agree with
Man this thread sucks it's like the Custer's last stand for blast havers you can just feel all the life draining from them
>>735680898>every company logo looks like a qr code becuase... uh... it's satire!!!the logos aren't QR's, heck im 90% sure Arachne are supposed to be a copy of those demon symbols of old.>this long stranded alien planet has functional infrastructure that all looks 3d printed last week>everything is colored as if it's a large futuristic sporting eventI assumed it was supposed to look like mass produced plastics, which do last forever.>even though the level of technology far exceeded that since 2015they will still make sense even 100 years from now, QR codes are just a way to encode text efficiently with built in error correction/checksum shit, even the most advanced computer vision can easily read a QR rather than a plain text link.
>>735681029would, but helmet stays on during sex and marriage
>>735680898>>every company logo looks like a qr code becuase... uh... it's satire!!! No, there's QR codes because it's a future where everybody has cyber eyes or smart eyewear, so it's only logical that common objects and signals fit this. This is also why optica are not lens but cameras with a projected augmented reality image based on eye-screen alignment>>this long stranded alien planet has functional infrastructure that all looks 3d printed last week It doesn't look 3d printed last week, it's very much degraded. The atructures were also carried through space through Deimos hollow moon with the Marathon and mounted on the surface after landing, which is why they have signs and on how to attach various partsYou are retarded
>>735681187The colored prefab structures also stand out in the actual planet enviroment and help give the idea of humans being alien and not meant to be there, which ties with the anomaly and contagion part pf the narrative
>>735680898This is the dumbest post itt, impressive
>>735681137>It's already happening todayIn Marathon you can barely tell them apart which defeats the point of a logo. It's so satirical it misses the whole point.>It basically was all 3d printed and why wouldn't it be functional, there are basically glownigger robots lurking around 24/7 nowFrom just the UESC, to the point where the other factions have to send player characters to protect or repair their assets. A Nucaloric facility does not have any meaningful maintenance. The game itself refers to this planet and its infrastructure as long abandoned.>They funded the entire operation, why wouldn't all items have their logos everywhere? That isn't the problem. The problem is every piece of infrastructure is painted full saturation like it's a McDonalds playground. It's not believable.
>>735643107i'm disgusted in my fellow steamies that supposedly nearly a fucking million of them bought this trash
>>735643508Any microtransaction also gets hit by gaben/snoy/microshit tax.
>>735644392Yes, you have the right to 41% yourself, Im not the one who is gonna deny you said right!
>>735643014LMAO no fucking way this trash sold 1,2 million units.
>>735681187>there's QR codes because it's a future where everybody has cyber eyes or smart eyewearWhy the fuck would you do that with smartphone computer vision? Consumer VR hardware in 2016 moved past that with mm accuracy with ultra cheap ir diodes.>It doesn't look 3d printed last week, it's very much degradedNot really, no.Even the Marathon fans I know agree with me this is a massive artistic disconnect.
>>735680889>marathon>cheaper than doom DAlmaoand the game pass numbers clearly show that there is demand.you have third worlder brain.
>>735681423It's completely believable. Veilguard sold 3 million with same Steam peak and people actually bought it on console (and then EA got sold to Saudi Arabia because they expect 5 mil)
>>735681345>Keeps doubling down on retardationStop posting
>>735680747they probably say it because the art style sucks.
>>735681345You said yourself it's a QR code you dumbass, you look at it with your cyber eyes and get 20 ads from the company>It's not believable.Why?Maybe THIS is more your style?
>>735681480dragon age is a famous franchise, i can believe that 3 million people bought it (and then refunded, lol, it was so bad). but marathon? no way. like 3 people played the original marathon in the 90's.
>>735681479>>marathon >>cheaper than doom DA Yeah>and the game pass numbersLolLMAO EVEN
>>735681512Burgerpunk?
>>735680747no, art isnt subjective.the whole point of ART is that ACTUAL FUCKING ART is considered beautiful by everybody.>show ACTUAL art to a 300 IQ genius and a 50 IQ somalian nigger>they both say its beautifulthats art.
>>735681547no one cares about or played the og Marathon thoughover?We're talking about nuMarathon
I hear the Middle East is lovely this time of year hopefully my fellow dev sisters have a soft landing in Saudi Arabia
>>735681345>This kind of branded prefab colored building is totally unrealistic broYour posts are so stupid they are collectively lowering /v/ average IQ from 60 to 50
Marathon :Day 1: 88,337 (Thursday)Day 2: 78,498 (-9,839) (-11.14%) (Friday)Day 3: 75,133 (-3,365) (-4.29%) (Saturday)Day 4: 77,371 (+2,238) (+2.98%) (Sunday)Day 5: 66,593 (-10,778) (-13.93%) (Monday)Day 6: 62,495 (-4,098) (-6.15%) (Tuesday)Day 7: 60,649 (-1,846) (-2.95%) (Wednesday)Day 8: 57,246 (-3,403) (-5.61%) (Thursday)Day 9: 59,357 (+2,111) (+3.69%) (Friday)Day 10: 58,729 (-628) (-1.06%) (Saturday)Day 11: 62,830 (+4,101) (+6.98%) (Sunday)Day 12: 53,846 (-10,830) (-14.30%) (Monday)Day 13: 54,414 (+568) (+1.05%) (Tuesday)Day 14: 51,731 (-2,683) (-4.93%) (Wednesday)Day 15: 47,959 (-3,772) (-7.29%) (Thursday)Day 16: 56,683 (+8,724) (+18.19%) (Friday) [Cryo Archives]Day 17: 53,569 (-3,114) (-5.49%) (Saturday)Day 18: 53,678 (+109) (+0.20%) (Sunday)Day 19: 44,371 (-9,307) (-17.34%) (Monday)Day 20: 42,091 (-2,280) (-5.14%) (Tuesday)Trend vs Day 1: -46,246 (-52.35%)In 3 weeks it has lost over half of those 800k steam players
>>735681607preference doesn't exist? anyone saying they like something you dont is merely lying?
>>735680623>>735680672>look, this bandwagon online thing sold a billion but everyone's just not playing, ok?No. This isn't Persona.
>>735681629enenthough morebeit easy to believe evenso beit dragon age sold many copies beitsomoreover, howeverso marathon selling 1,2 million copies makeitsonot believable, so thougheven not so famous franchise beitsothoughyes.
>>735681512Why the fuck would they use QR codes in 2893, let alone for construction equipment calibration.>uhm, erm you see the lore saysIt does not intuitively make sense.
>>735681679art isnt subjective.preference exists, but not when it comes to art.art is univeral.you cant have preference when it comes to art.
>>735660179To be honest here, the people playing sports games can't afford to buy more than one at fucking 80€ to virtually kick a ball.God forbid if devs get their way and gta 6 releases at 100$ what they'd charge in other countries, I'm already seeing a 120€ or even 130€ price tag for the base edition.
>>735681649That doesn't look like Marathon though. Flood the whole building blue, remove any markers in the parking lot, and replace it with markers unreadable to a human, and you have something closer.If you can't into basic pattern recognition, don't project that onto me.
>>735681724>Why the fuck would they use QR codes in 2893why wouldnt they? qr codes are good at what they do, whats the alternative? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code
>>735681697You lost
>>735681745average youtube neoconservativeart is objective, therefore everyone play fortnite it has big numbers therefore good
So did every shill just forget that the Nu-marathon artstyle was literally stolen from a tranny or what
>>735681745this is a fun contrarian take lol
>>735681782You don't get mm accuracy out of a QR code, environmental weathering affects detection, and a reminder the nonsensical markers in Marathon ARE NOT MEANT TO BE PARSED BY A HUMAN.You're surrounded by visual indicators used by cameras and sensors all the time that you can't see because they're more accurate and don't get in the way. Eg.) A VR controller.The choice is inferior and putting Ikea construction markers all over already constructed infrastructure for a colony made FOR humans is fundamentally retarded.
>>735681792I'm not getting fired. How's the weather in Bellevue?
>>735643107I'm surprised people actually have an xbox at this point
>>735681774>>735681936Every human has cybernetic eyes I betYou're getting filtered by Mirror Edge's artstyle hardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TNSaEJHBrQ
>>735681884Sounds cool, stealing is based
>>735643014but... /v/ said it will fail???
>>735681774>That doesn't look like Marathon thoughYou wouldn't know that because you don't play games, brown turd
>>735682158>will
>>735682067Mirror's Edge was solid because the art and lore existed in the same universe. Marathon is aping things from various art styles without any context.>every human has cybernetic eyes1.) These markings are meant for construction equipment and these things are already completed.2.) the visible spectrum of light actually sucks for such purposes, see pic related, valve's scrapped VR prototype replaced with lasers instead.I guess everything malfunctions the moment it turns to night because it's just no longer visible in that spectrum, makes sense, this is the technology of nearly 80 years in the future, im just too low IQ to get it :/
>/v/ called me a pajeet and shill for saying this will flop only half as bad as expected
>>735682214I have played the game, those do not look the same. You can't see the difference and are presenting it as some kind of virtue.
>oh they have all these computer vision markers because they don't care about aesthetics and its very utilitarian>oh it's colored like a mcdonalds playground because it's corporate and meant to be a human living spaceDoesn't sound like a coherent art style to me, desu
>>735682239not a counter argument.
>>735682158It did fail
>>735643014PM#472Can someone explain to me why is this bad?I get it that balancing a multi-player game is not easy. Still, they just sold 1.2 millions of a multi-player game with a single mode, only four maps, containing mostly text and audio dialogues for its story. Surely a budget of a game like this must be orders of magnitude less than that of a CoD or a Battlefield
>THAT marathon shill is here No wonder the thread smells like shit
I've been holding out on commenting about this topic until there was a measured analysis with actual data.Before any doomposters, trolls, or armchair experts chime in: this comment is based on my personal experience working in marketing at Sony, traveling to their HQs in California and Japan, and general knowledge of case studies for comparison.The simple fact is none of us know the true dynamic of the working relationship and strategic planning between Sony and Bungie, but Sony is no stranger to betting on dark horses - as long as the IP is strong. From Xperia phones, the controversial movie The Interview, 8K TVs, the PS3 era, & Sony's Spider-Man Universe, there's many examples of this across different divisions at the company over the years. They have activations at their Sony Showrooms that are very creative and cool, and yet still don’t make dollars & sense when it comes to a marketing budget.Sony did not acquire Bungie for ~$3.6B for Marathon alone, but a long-term strategic play for Destiny 2, Marathon, most likely Destiny 3, and the strong IP that comes with all of that for merchandising, licensing, & adaptations.We also don't have an accurate report of Marathon's development cost.Will Sony impart its will on Bungie to attract more players to the game? Yes. Will there be layoffs over time? Maybe. Will Marathon go the way of Concord or Highguard? No. The doomposters and trolls need to understand that both of those games were weak IPs that were DOA.Marathon may be the game that extends Bungie’s burn rate until D3, or it may be the IP that is so creative and uncompromising in its vision that it refuses to be ignored. Remember how the Netflix animated series Cyberpunk: Edgerunners and the Phantom Liberty expansion revitalized interest in Cyberpunk 2077 years after release? The game that had a disastrous launch and could have tanked its developer CD Projekt Red (~$6B company).
>>735682795>Spider-Man cinematic universe, the follow-up to PS2 and 8K are "dark horses" Incredible how Resetera still finds new ways to be baffling.
>>735682604your life failed.
>>735683039Nope, Bungie devs are gonna lose their jobs soon, so there's that though
>New all time low yesterday I'm having a blast
>>735683268good, bout time.
>>735680563>>Paid shills and Bungies discord groomers gave it positive reviews so it's good I've not played a Bungie game since Reach and I've been enjoying it.
>>735683317Sold 800k btw, trust the experts.
>>735683317but the cryo archives... they didn't even let big reviewers post their scores until that released...
>>735643402of course, so snoys admit to not playing games when they don't even play their own publishers shit.
>>735643107Steamies have dogshit taste
>>735683689800k pcs = 0.000001% off PC playerbase350k PoS5 + Lelbox = 20% of the Console playerbaseWho really has shit taste now huh?
i suspect when it (and any other live service from that push) was pitched to Sonys management in their mind it was next Fortnite/Roblox, 1 game they could milk for decade, next big thing or something like that. Success at scale of helldivers 2 would be failure in their minds. They bought Bungie because they wanted Desityny 3.Now they have game that can be succesfull but it require lots of work and money on top of gigantic budget.What should they do? go for destiny 3 or spend more money trying to save that shit without any guarantee that it will work.And fucking Destiny 3 is like 5 years and 500mln USD away. I suspect big layoffs soon.
>>735682604how can 1.3M copies on launch "fail"What first person shooter can pull of these sales except COD and Battlefield?
Stellar Blade sold 1M copies in a month, that's a huge success>>735683826>I make up in my mind a goalpost I can comfortably move to claim anything I wantlol
>>735684148If GTA 6 sold 1.2 million copies on launch and had 80k peak players, would that ve considered a success to you?
>>735683689On the contrary, Marathon is a superb shooter, this proves once again consoleshitters just eat up whatever big brand of gun and ball releases or [third person cinematic shooter/slasher with dad-son story] and don't like actual games
>>735684221Stellar Blade didn't cost $250 million plus the 3.4 billion to buy the studio.
>>735643014Didn't Highguard do 2x more?
>>735684148Because "X copies on launch" is a worthless number if you have no growth prospect and the earnings barely cover your staff meals for the years long dev time.The only time it matters is when you literally make a killing day 0 like StS2 which the devs can literally retire tomorrow and let the game rot as they already made bank.
>>735684242>what if I set up an even more retarded premise and compare a game with 800 times bigger budget to a multiplayer game with a handful cutscenes, 4 multiplayer maps and 7 classesLOL you are trying so hard
>>735684314>Stellar Blade didn't cost $250 millionneither did Marathon so that's ok
>>735643107that explains the snoy whining about pc.
>>735643107Snoyshitters don't like real games
>>735684351it might be not GTA6 budget, but im sure USA based dev team isnt cheap to operate
>>735643107Maratjon doesn't have enough movement inertai and cutscenes after every shootout to be considered Goty by snoygroids.This is also why Helldivers 2 is a "Sony" game snoys don't give a shit about
>>735684470>but im sure USA based dev team isnt cheap to operateYeah I'm sure the 250 developers that actually worked specifically on Marathon, the smaller of the three projects Bungie is working on, were meant to carry the revenue of the entire team in a single release.Why are you so fucking hopelessly wanting to kill the only AAA game that took risks and that everybody who actually plays it loves it? What do you gain from being a cynical faggot?
>>735682334>I have played the game,No you didn't
>>735684612I am sure the suits expected Marathon to at least revive the IP.
Westoid turds are getting more expensive to make while selling lower and lowerThis is some divine comedy
>>735643107Extraction shooters audience has always been pc only, idk why sony thought it would change
>>735684612smaller of 3 projects? so we have to wait next 5 years for bigger one to finally realese? Sure rolling debt with more loans was always sonys dream when they spend big buck on bungie
>>735684735Marathon was not an IPThe game is called Marathon because the developers love the lore of the first game they have made and wanted to follow up on Marathon 2 ending (very indicative the fact that Infinity is wisely retconned as that game did ruin the story), and the concept phase started when Bungie was still independent. Marathon exists because they wanted to make it. Sure as fuck it wasn't Sony that barged in to tell them to make a sci-fi brutal Halo: Prepare to Die Edition
>>735684337>because [made up shit]lol
>>735684950>a for profit company wanting profit is a made up shitwat?
>>735684886they wanted to develop story so they done generic multiplayer slop with flashy graphics, one of worst posible genre if you want to tell story
>>735684979Have you got ANY evidence that Marathon is not bound to grow in the long term?As if destiny itself did not grow substantially post release, as if many other exponents of the genre hadn't released to much worse and more absymal sales than Marathon and then grow years later
>>735685086nu-Marathon story is excellent so far
>>735685096>Have you got ANY evidence that Marathon is not bound to grow in the long term?No, but recent history is pretty hostile towards this specific genre.
>Game sold less than Highguard >Bungie shills have to damage control
>>735685096From the chart you posted it looks like the game was on an overall positive trend from the start? Also Marathon has no new content for months. The more people are encouraged to not login in or to wait for new content, the less likely they are to actually keep logging in. Right now if you are capable of doing cryo archive, there is much less reason to play on the weekdays already.
>>735647430I would have been quiet quitting while looking for work elsewhere long before release
>>735685096sure, corpo will spend another suitcase of money just for trying to save doa game and maybe maybe make even in few years time. Because thats how corporate america works
CD 3 Mil EZ
>>735684351Bungie isn't an indie company. The same exact way they become the model of FPS story based live service, GTA from Rockstar became the model of open world online multi-player.So the correct answer for your retard brain is no. You can't be a massive AAA company and operate with one game as your cashcow and it performs like a AA 15 dev studio.
>>735643107>litetally carrying mediocre PS titleMan cant be this based
>>735643107Can't even blame snoys for this shit for once
>>735643014Halo 2 and 3 would have 1.2m users online at any given time on a daily basis. Bungie should shutter their doors out of pure shame
>>735685213>NoI accept your concession>>735685223>>Game sold less than Highguardretard>>735685428game is paid for>>73568549855M revenue is "indie" now? LOL
>>735685745>55MWhat? At worst its around 35m.
>>735684221Stellar Blade sold a million in 3 days on steam you retard
>>735685223highguard was free
It says a lot that shills like Tassi and reddit are saying the numbers are bad yet you've got people here trying to damage control
>>735683317...
>>735679970They are all chasing the biggest fish and paying the price for it. In 2013 Grand Theft Auto V made $1 billion in 3 days in 2015 Fallout 4 made $750 million in 3 daysin 2018 Red Dead Redemption 2 made $725 million in sales in 3 daysWe see comparable with Pokemon and Zelda titles as well, the shareholders and investors want those kinds of sales but have no idea how to replicate that shit and worse the developers are just saying whatever lies they need to get what they want made or to just fleece them as fast as they can. That's what's making these ridiculous outcomes where indie teams will never have to work another day in their life because their $20 title sold comparable or better numbers but the overhead just wasn't as intense as these bloated late stage cancer companies that can't run on small margins so you get flops that still clear 5 million.
>>735684886>Infinity is wisely retconned as that game did ruin the story
>>735685745game was made with loans, borrowed money. It should make enough money to pay what they borrowed, pay intrest rates and only then make profit. Thats how corporate amercia works.
>>735681298>>735681187>>735681151>>735681137Shouldn't you be working on a game people want to buy instead of defending your failed game in this thread?
>>735643107>>735643014>Somehow 800k Copies sold, only 17k players. Don't worry guys for every one person who played the game 47 people bought it, and never launched it.
Shouldn't /v/ love dogshit low skill games like Bungieslop with bullet magnetism and aim assist out the ass?
>>735686087You no nothing of /v/ they want goon material and little else
>>735682795>those games were weak IPs that were DOA>We're not like corporal Hyenas who was sniped before we even landed>We're not unlucky like that Concord dude who stepped on a mine right after reaching solid ground>And we're definitely not like that dumbass Highguard who charged chuds machinegun nest and got filled with lead>No sir, we're just laying in the ditch, bleeding but alive
>>735685096>Have you got ANY evidence that Marathon is not bound to grow in the long term?The terrible reception, the road map with no game changing announced content. The fact that Sony burned a huge amount of reputation of the game on cryo archive, and the complete failure of that to improve the trend. The full spectrum rejection of the big streamers. The lack of traction in asia, which prevents a Apex style comeback. Lets flip this. What's the strongest case for Marathon to grow? Next content update is a map. A nightime version of an existing one. If you honestly think this is going to grow, go buy sony stock now. Take my money.
>>735679970Newsflash retard, ever since arcades stopped being le main gaymin place, 1m is shit numbers. Even the biggest flopsoles broke 10m.There are supposedly 60m PoS5 around. There are hundreds of millions of PCs capable of running this.
>>735684320Highguard was free so it made them basically $0, you drama starved tourist. That being said, granted Marathon does not seem to be doing well in the context of Sony's budget.
>>735684351Being extremely optimistic here, Marathon cost -at least- 200mil. Bungie are the top dogs of live service at sony and oversaw both Concord and the TLOU live service they've sentenced to death. And even that number is extremely unlikely given it was stuck in dev hell.
>>735682795>working in marketing at Sony,Alright. I'm going to hand it to you. That's the most creative angle possible for this game. But I'd like your opinion. How do you think Sony did marketing this game? I know they had some extra trouble with the stolen art thing and dropped all their above the line placements, but clearly this is a full AAA campaign.
>>735682795What fucking reddit form did you get this bait? >Remember how the Netflix animated series Cyberpunk: Edgerunners and the Phantom Liberty expansion revitalized interest in Cyberpunk 2077 years after release?Both were in production during the launch of the game. A game that made sold 15 Million units it's first week. Even with the 70k refunds that is still a lot of fucking money and again, both the DLC and the fucking anime were in the pipe being made (and in the case of the anime basically finished)This game moved not even 10% the same amount of units with production cost far larger than 2077s was and it's live service nature demands steady activity.They are not coming back from this, but I hope they never think that and keep this humiliation ritual going all year because the longer it goes on the more damage it does to the companies and the better they will learn to never be this retarded again.
>>735686323>The terrible receptionVery positive reviews you mean?
>>735679970>>735686340you want to get really weird both Hollow Knight games made much better numbers in their launch month for a fraction of the time and investment. That's what makes these crash and burns so entertaining is the billions being burned to make the next Mario/CoD game get their ass handed to them but a bunch of college age kids with no studio overhead. You think Minecraft would have taught them it's better to just swim around the indie scene and just buy up the titles as they get popular such as Rocket League. But no, Sony wants to be THAT idiot that just wants to do things as they were in the 1980s and buy big studios and just force shit out thinking the market will just buy it.
>>735686826Trannies positive opinions literally don’t count lol they worship satan
>>735686525>Being extremely optimistic here, Marathon cost -at least- 200mil. You are an unhinged retardDestiny as a franchise had a budget of 500M over 10 whole years of constant development
>>735686826Sales reception, for it's budget. And Sony had so little confidence in the reviews that they put on a practical embargo.But lets follow your train of thought. Lets say Positive steam reviews, but plummeting population. Why do you think population will suddenly recover?
>>735686826Now take away the discord groomer reviews that Bungie themselves asked for
>>735686979And? Bungie has bloated as a company since the start of Destiny. Feel free to show your budget and methodology.
>>735687023>>735686963Cope
Damn why is this game in a self-cannibalizing genre not hitting the mainstream success that it needs to last? Get Sherlock on this one because it's a doozy.
>>735686323The only way they can make the game grow from here is by turning it into Destiny RaidersThe sweaty PVP extraction shooter space is dead
>>735686927If the games they are making weren't so terrible I could almost admire Sony's attitude. "Nobody puts baby in a corner". But alas they are just another evil corporation.
>>735687056>And?And you are a schizophrenic retard trying to make up imaginary goalposts just to pretend the game failed, when it already likely made back its budget The idea that Marathon costed half the entire development of Destiny from its beginnings to the last updates of Destiny 2 is unhinged
>>735686826>sub 3% players bothered to reviewSuch a worthy metric
Marathon goes way deeper than any other extraction shooter on the market. 28 weapons, 400 weapon mods, countless cores/implants for the runner shells, all interchangeable and all can synergize to create effects and builds. 7 runners shells with their own traits and passives. 7 vendors with an insane amount of upgrades that either directly affect your shells or the gear you can acquire. The upgrades they provide are game changing.No other extraction shooter has maps that have the attention to detail and interesting mechanics that push players like Outpost and Cryo Archive. Every other extraction shooter funnels players to the same static loot locations over and over again. Marathon makes this dynamic. The extraction locations are dynamic.All of this on top of deep lore that ties into some of the deepest lore the gaming world has ever seen from the origins trilogy. A bold strong visionary sci fi art direction. Incredible music. Vendor quests that add more lore. The vendors themselves have aura and are great to listen to, all their motivations makes sense and are all shady in their own way. Countless codex entries expounding upon the game.
>>735687057Coping hard by not buying/playing lmao pretend to not seethe
>>735684148>What first person shooter can pull of these sales except COD and Battlefield?Ready or Not cleared nearly 2 Million it's launch week, it made half that in the first 4 days.
>>735686927This post makes no senseMarathon is a very niche, elitarian game, and Silksong is near universally reviled for being too hard, including by /v/ which absolutely wants to see Silksong dead, and only rode to success through a brief honeymoon period from the hype surrounding it and the popularity of the first game
>>735687185Yeah but anyone who isn't a sweat is just cannon fodder for sweats so none of that matters and the population will dwindle. Bungie learned this many times with Trials of Osiris and learned nothing so they should be punished for their stupidity.
>>735686979Irrelevant, all modern AAA Sony projects start at 200mil.
>>735687291>Silksong is near universally reviled for being too hardjust making up whatever narrative you want from within your bubble, huh?
>>735684148ARC RaidersReady or NotPayday 1 and 2FarCry 2 and 3Bioshock seriesReally a lot, a 1 million copy sales being a big deal was a talking point 20 years ago.
>>735687361>It's irrelevant because it doesn't suit my narrativeLol
>>735687180That applies to every single game on steam
>>735687291>This post makes no senseSomewhat ironic where it's actually your post anon. The post mentioned both the orginal and the sequel selling better in the launch window than this speaking nothing about game play.
>masterwork of designThis Rhys Elliot and Gertsmann seem to have forgotten to include their ranks.
>>735687425Sony's narrative. Again, something with zero pedigree and potential like Concord ballooned to 300mil. This is Bungie.
>>735682021If you have above room temperature IQ it's easy to realize it's the best platform
>>735643014>>735643346>>735679970>Only 1.2 million that doesn’t include store platform fees>Simple math shows $40.00 X 1,200,000 =$48,000,000.00 now reduced it to 30% to pay fees $48,000,000 -30% = 14,400,000They only made 14.4million, EoS is happening. That is not enough to keep severs online for long.
>>735687670Shouldn't it be 33.6 million?
>>735687010>for it's budgetLol>>735687570>Sony's narrative. Source: your crackpipe.
>>735687670Retard lol
>>735687760The service tax isn't the only tax companies have to pay anon.
>>735643014Bro this thread is STILL up? :skull emoji:
>>735685894kek below destiny 2's peak yday
>>735687774Cope however you prefer, the layoffs are only two months away.
>>735687856I know that's not the only thing these people pay, but I'm talking about the math here.
>>735687760Maybe it’s in that number too if people refund the game and other unfold fees like taxes and such. That would in this mathematical theory bring the real total wealth of $1,400,000.00 so ya. EoS happening.
>>735687876the board obsessed with dying games is also dying
Why can't this dude just admit Marathon flopped
>>735687997All boards are.
I don't know what's more dead this thread or the game. It's just the crackpipe shill digging his heels in against an onslaught of anons I hope you can buy your chickpeas today
>>735687774>CrackpipeFunny you say that you've been on a 24 hour bender defending this game
I'll grant the player count hasn't fallen off a cliff, I still don't think this game has 6 months in it
>>735687670>They only made 14.4millionlol you silly goose, they probably made five times as much if not more from all the amazing skins and other microtransactions, since this is clearly a GaaS game, surely..
>>735687997Not surprising considering how abhorrently dogshit the whole site became. This and similar threads are a perfect example of it.
>>735688052I'm having a blast!
>>735688284I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed (who I will now refer to as) the crackpipe shill. He seems too earnest to be a paid shill, so I'm guessing it's a case of 'I like this game, but I have to defend it because if I admit it's actually bad, I'm admitting I have poor taste in games' mixed with some buyer's remorse. And i want to shit on him, so let's get started.>Destiny 2 didn't cost $500mNo, that was the total franchise cost for the first Destiny. Destiny 2 cost more than $500m since it had almost a thousand people working on it for half a decade. When you add in the years of expansions and patches, it probably added another $300 to $400m at least, but the game also had revenue during that period. What the actual profit looked like, I don't know.>Marathon didn't cost $250mIt cost more than that and you can use simple math to figure out how. (250 devs multiplied by the five year dev time multiplied by the average Seattle dev salary ($125k, but it actually costs Bungie $200k because of employee benefits and taxes and such). Then you add an estimated $25 to $50m for marketing. Easily to get to $300m, and that's just a conservative number.>Marathon is good because it has good reviewsFirst, the 'official' reviews from journalist sites, especially the ones that respected Bungie's 'request' to wait for Cryo, are basically marketing pieces. They should be discounted out of hand. Second, Marathon has an artificially high number of reviews on Steam because, like another anon pointed out, Bungie themselves made a clear, unambiguous request on the official Marathon discord for people to go review the game. And once you add in the resetera/reddit crowd who have to leave a positive review to support Bungie (a now infamously woke studio) to own the chuds, it's easy to see why the reviews are so high>the game isn't dying / it can still make a comebackNo, it can't. The downward trend has been in effect since the free to play weekend and hasn't changed
