>kills physical game stores>kills game rentingWhy is he the good guy again?
>>735830887>physical game storesparasites>game rentingyou'll own nothing and you'll be happy
He made Half-Life, one of the greatest and most influential games of all time.Unfortunately, this means every single game that forces you to maintain control while some character prattles on to you is the fault of Half-Life... sorry.
don't carecontroller when
>>735830887Acknowledging that someone has a terminal illness and therefore not marrying them doesn't mean you murdered them.
>rental 1997 (3 days for 5$) good>rental modern day (permanent for game price) badRetarded argument
>>735830887he makes Timmy seethe
what's killing console physical?face reality faggot, physical would be dead regardless
>>735831097L4D basically invented modern co-op so i can forgive valve
>>735831308>permanent
>>735830887he beat a Rothschild openly, they start attacking him with lawsuits suddenly.They attack steam stats because they can't paint a narrative their woke trash is successful.Private company so they can't manipulate it with the markets.Forced them to limit adult game with age verification.Steam seems to be the few companies not totally jewed.
>>735830887>Renting PC gamesWeirdo
that was fucking Gamestop, and Amazon thougheverbit
>>735830887he's not, we used to hate him and steam before this board got infested with zoomers who never knew betterhe's still much better than his alternatives but he's not a good guy
>>735830887He made a generic FPS I liked as a kid.
>>735831097>>735831440You realize he didn't produce anything in those games right? He didn't code, or do art or level design or AI or ANYTHING. He literally just paid others to make the game. This board hates Keiji Inafune or Kojima for being ideas guys but Gabe had less impact on his games
>>735831460Show me 5 examples of people having games removed from their library with sources cited. I'll wait.
>>735830887he's not a good guy. He could pioneer digital reselling or trading but he'd rather force you to own every game you play forever and even your kids can't inherit them when you die.
>>735831661when steam will go bankrupt, all your game will be unavaible
Physical drm badDigital drm good
>>735830887>kills physical game storesJewish>kills game rentingEven more JewishI can buy games now for less than it would have cost to rent them, and that isn't even taking inflation into account.
>>735831739Ok so you admit there are none and threads like this are just retarded fear mongering.
He didn't, physical stores killed themselves. Instead of making special editios of every single game, things that are worth the money, they just shove a disc inside a generic case, and a printed paper on it. Why would I get this instead of just buying online? There's no point.When games launch on Steam, the devs make banners, cards, badges, and so on. Why couldn't stores ask them for a single 3D model like an amibo for printing? Put a physical book, a map, a printed gyzmo on every game, and it wouldn't have died. And obviously, witthou raising the price from 60 to 200 over stuff we know didn't cost more than 20 dollars to make.If you refuse to evolve, then you deserve to die
>>735831861you don't agree with me?
>>735831907Why would I agree with an ESL retard?
>>735831739speculationuntil someone sets a precedent you're just guessing
>>735831962because you're dumb
>>735832072so when steam will go bankrupt, you'll still own your games?
>>735831660>project leader leads project and secures the funding for it and allocates responsibilities>"yeah but he didnt write code!!!"fuck off
>>735832198>whenLol
>>735832198when stadia shut down it refunded everyoneyou have to be retarded to believe there's no contingency for steamthere will be lawsuits if that ever happens
>>735832198>>735831739holy ESL
>>735832314steam will fail and will not riemburce the games you paid for>>735832309
>>735832405I bet english is your second language too
>>735831660Humans don’t actually do anything related to game development. Theres a brain which exists outside of any human body that directs them. The purpose of a companies employment structure happened due to there being a small amount of logic when it came to the labor part of the equation. And, this big sky brain essentially ran with the concept. Thats actually him controlling what people are saying, he’s literally larping every single word is like a complete lie. Which is another thing that happened due to there being a small amount of logic to it, and he just runs with it. So to actually create the physical devices necessary to create gaming took human labor structures. And this system of command was naturally “black mirrored” by somebody calling themselves the devil. And, the devil loves playing video games, but like I just went over, the most efficient way to make video games for himself to play, was actually to black mirror the systems. Thats how we get these superstars like notch, brode, metzen, they’re all acting by his command, as part of a front for his system, to help keep everything organized. The need for organization among his own clones is apparent. He typically boxes them into pens, and has them line up to feed and water themselves. He walks them like they’re his dogs to keep their bodies alive a bit longer. And, he uses them to make video games, for himself to play on his other clones.And gaming itself actually arose due to military budgets which produced a better way to trade. And, gaming was just another thing he could do with that type of system. I’d actually just suggest not listening to him talk, he calls himself the devil for a reason. He is a gay rapist who kills lots of humans from a place of complete safety.
>>735830887>another epic shill crying about based GabeN and valve
>>735832198You never owned software in the first place. Software has been licensed for longer than steam existed. As for whether you can continue to play your games after Valve goes bankrupt, yes, most likely.That's ignoring the fact that you don't know what the word bankruptcy means, and the absurdity of a corporation that makes Google look like a mom n pop convenience store in terms of per head profit is about to go bankrupt.
>>735832432no, you're just a consolenigger that assumes the worst based on literally nothing
>bro steam is going to fail any day now trust me bro your games will be gone!!!!Okay Mr. Sweeney, how is Steam going to "fail" considering it's a free money printer for Valve?
>>735830887>kills game rentingWhat do you think buying a licence to a video game is?
>>735832608steam will fail one day
>>735832198When your game discs get turned to ash by an explosion, or eroded away by time, can you still play them?
>>735831739>>735832198If I have them downloaded, then I will still be able to play them, just like I'd still be able to play a physical game after the disc craps out if I rip the disc.>But DRMCan be circumvented and I don't buy Denuvo slop.
>>735832665nothing last forever
>>735830887>PC gamers>going outside>everlol
>>735832702so will consoles, way earlier than steam, looking at the ps5 price hikeat least steam games are easy to crack, console games are locked down to specific hardware and they have a long history of abandoning old games
>>735832505I'm not brown and I don't live in india so I win
>>735832726no of course, same with steam
>>735831097>Half-Life,woke crap
>>735832198>>735832314(only tagging up for clarity)You're a retard if you think steam would ever shut down to begin with, but OVER a fucking decade ago Gabe already had a contingency plan that removes ALL DRM from your fucking games and has said he would give a grace period to download everything in advance of steam servers shutting off. So tired of this fucking retarded ESL argument
>>735832805nor I, ESL>>735832798idk about consoles
>>735832665I’ve been studying steams internal stock exhange rates for 10 years. I work closely with FAANG companies like Microsoft’s development and analytics teams. What we’ve recently discovered is that the steams inflation rating is going sky high. We’ve all predicted a complete market crash for valve is coming, and bankruptcy is a sure thing. The company is going to close down. They’re keeping it secret for now. Theres talk about transferring steam libraries to a new sister company, but that’s not a sure thing.
>>735830887Are you saying Gabe Newell is the internet? The world wide web? Because that's what killed those things, Newell just saw it coming. Dumb faggot.
>>735830887Because there is no visual distinction between him and his fans
>>735832893I don't think its true
>>735832560I wish I didn't have adhd and dyslexia because I just know this post is a gem.
>>735830887I don't want a mountain of plastic pointlessly taking up space and game renting was never a thing on PC anyway.
>>735832974>I don't thinkWe can tell.
>>735833065same for you
>>735833002No its not
Jesus if you think Steam is bad for you not owning games, look into professional software "ownership".Adobe and Autodesk will actively try to skin you alive.
>>735830887>kills game rentinglol wut. You've never been able to rent PC games.
>>735831739>all your game will be unavaibleESL-kun...
>>735832942even though you're memeing, steam has 400 ish employeesthey're already incredibly lean and it would take years of making zero money for them to even risk going bankrupt
so steam will never fail?
>>735830887>kills physical game storesThey were fucking terrible experiences 99% of the time.>hey man we can only give you 25cents for this game you are trading in...>*puts it in the trade in rack for $40*
>>735831002Steam is just long term renting and they can take the games away from you at any time for any reason
don't you want to own your game you paid for even if the seller has gone bankrupt?
>>735833407Pretty much impossible at this point. That's why governments want a part of it so badly. It's private, consumer friendly, and extremely profitable.>>735833437Physical had other issues for me. Storage and inconvenience of switching games. Always a risk of an accident, and for consoles their lifespan is not guaranteed, especially starting at gen7-8.
lol niggas like steam will never fail as if WW3 won't knock it out of service with 90% of the world's population dead
>>735830887Gabe is BASED and /ourguy/seethe
>>735833553>Pretty much impossible at this point. That's why governments want a part of it so badly. It's private, consumer friendly, and extremely profitable.well, thanks at least one good anon giving me a non insulting answer
>>735833437he didn't tho. a gamestop shut down near me and a mom and pop retro game store replaced it. maybe we need to be more pro game stores and less pro corporate gamestop who just wants to fuck us over with 100 dollar games.
>steam games i bought decades ago i can still download and play right now>xbox/360 games i bought decades ago i can't play at all and just take up physical space because the consoles don't work
>>735830887Steam is a platform for games. Gabe newell didn't kill physical mediaHe is pro the gamers in general, so he wouldn't fuck us over like other evil corpos would. Dude is very even headed and he knows what he is doing. I trust Gabe Newell 100% over any other CEO
>>735833870yeah you're right maybe consoles will be more like a pc in the future
>>735831438>COVID-19 Accelerates digital>trend is about the same as before and even tapers off
>>735833665He supports woke liberals and Sweet Baby incHe isn't ourguy faggot
>>735833907>Gabe newell didn't kill physical mediaHe literally made steam to kill reselling of Half Life 2
>>735831097>Half-Life>InfluentialThere are no games that draw inspiration from it, it wasn't influential at all.
>>735833535>30 year rent for $10deal
>>735834028The only time SBI worked with valve was forthe ultra alpha version of deadlock and steam has since stopped buisness with them.
>>735833192>FreeCAD 2.0 (releasing in 2035) will come with a button that punches the CEO of Autodesk that you can press for stress relief every time you need to boot a Windows VM to use an Autodesk CAD program
what software can you own that aren't free?
>>735830887>kills game rentingSteam is a glorified rental service and you fags still deny it.
>>735834365Explain Half Life Alyx, Valve employed Campo Santo artists this board HATED before they were bought by Valve
>the main criticism of steam is that they don't let you have a feature that would spell financial suicide to everyone at worst and a horrible loss of convenience at best
>>735830887Physical media was never intended to be some kind of solution to a hypothetical problem that would emerge in an Orwellian futureIt was the only delivery system available to get product to you. The product itself was still digital.Digital distro replacing physical media is inevitable and there has been countless analogs to that in history.Warping digital distro around SaaS, censorship, access and surveillance though? That is a failure of your government
>>735830887When have you ever seen PC games for rent? PC game sections were also barely a part of game stores. The entire section was basically for selling Blizzard games.
>>735830887He spent literally millions on marketingHe's the reason we have drm the way it is today actually, not to mention the whole 'I invented steam as a way to get people to stop selling HL2 when they beat it' since it's a six hour gameBut marketing on zoom-zooms works
>>735834628>bigger tits>narrower waist>more pronounced curveswhat's the problem that she looks older?
>>735835278>>bigger titsNope just broader shoulders which are masculine features>>narrower waist>>more pronounced curvesNo they aren't She now has bigger jaw, thicker neck, broad shoulders, open legs like a man, and WAY UGLIER
>>735834971>PC game sections were also barely a part of game stores. The entire section was basically for selling Blizzard games.ThisYou got one shelf that consisted of a handful of the latest releases, a few evergreen titles like The Sims and the aforementioned Blizzard games, and $10 casual games like Bejeweled and those hidden object games. Anything else and you had to buy it online and wait a week or two for it to be shipped out, and if you're already buying games online why not just skip the wait and get it as an instant download?I learned how to pirate games because I wanted to play Postal 2 and no store in town sold it.
>>735832586It's so tiresome.
>>735833535>20+ year rentals for $5-20Sounds good to me.
>>735830887newfags don't know what a pain PC gaming was before steam became the standard. Cancerous DRM that had a limited number of installs allowed. Needing to manually dig around the net for game updates. Using pirate cracks even though you BOUGHT THE GAME because running your own games legitimately was more of a pain in the ass. Physical was going to die out for PC regardless, just due to the nature of the open platform.
>>735832586>Epic laid off 1000 engineers >Still has the budget to keep their army of jeet shills employedREALLY makes you think.
>more AGP steambrowns crying about schizo conspiracy theories instead of accepting they worship evilMany such cases.
>>735838556where do you get your games?
>>735831739SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>735830887Because he makes all the right people shit themselves to death. And also Steam and Valve are pretty cool.
>>735837505>newfags don't know what a pain PC gaming was before steam became the standardNice exposing yourself as a tech illiterate retard
>>735838426At this point I'm pretty sure it's a few autists who keep spamming these threads for hours each dayAnd they do it for free
>>735837505a lot of games had no cd cracks. DRM was always a battleground just like it is today with Denuvo.
>>735830887Because>kept gaming alive while everyone else was busy killing it
>>735830887Your parents have failed you.Your educational system has failed you.Your teachers have failed you.I feel sorry for you.
>>735837505I don't remember what game it was but I remember being dicked by SecuROM in the early 2000's.Pretty sure it's why I just pirated everything for almost a decade, despite being able to afford to buy them.
>>735830887>rothschild seething threadgo back to clean the floors for the germans you stupid jew
>>735831409This. Fuck sweenies.
>>735830887That was happening long before steam for pretty much the entire existence of PC gaming with CD keys, and multiple different DRMs which included things like your game/key being completely useless if it was activated more than X amount of times.Then consoles tried to kill renting and physical>that short period where a bunch games needed an online pass to play any multiplayer modes>buy a game new or pay $10 for it>xbox one>game discs having little to no actual data on themBut none of you retards know about this because you're underage, ESL monkeys, or just got into video games in the last 6 years.
>>735841105I shouldn't have to use cracks for games I already own. It shouldn't be more painful to play a 100% legit bought copy of a game than a pirated/cracked version.
>>735841341>>kept gaming aliveHow? Making lootbox multiplayer slop?
>>735842428>try to play any rockstar game>launcher doesn't work 80% of the time>have to pirate games I own
>>735832893>contingency planLmao you must be underage to be this fucking naive
>>735831739and when the power company goes bankrupt I won't be able to play my pc anymore.
>>735830887lol
>>735830887Having a good internet connection and hard drive space has been preferable to spinning discs and securom. Steam becoming mainstream was inevitable. >game rentingBlockbuster was an absolute goy magnet but I will admit that the "get a snack, drink, and game" copypasta was real and was pretty nice for a kid.
>>735843276if you need to schizophrenically assume steam is just going to one day die without any legal recourse you need to take your medsthat's not how shit works
>>735843276>you must be underage>here's my fairytale headcannon about a billion dollar company randomly collapsing Yea whatever you say pablo
>when steam will go bankrupt, all your game will be unavaible
>>735831739>>735832198yep, you can just download and play them offline
>>735830887because he can't stop winning because everyone else keeps destroying their own dev studios
>>735842583by doing literally nothing while every other company was following Volition off the cliff
>>735844518What dev studios do Valve own? None and they produce nothing
>>735844623Valve cultists are the only fanbase that get happy their company makes nothing and does nothingWeird behavior, imagine if Nintendo fans be happy their company did nothing
>>735844643they literally don't have to do anythingjust stand still while the entire rest of the vidya industry burns itself to the ground
>>735844720yep, if only you could do nothing that profitably
>>735844720lol
>>735844720Do you ever get tired of trying to force rivalries?
>>735830887fat fuck gabencunt
>>735830887Its amazing how little people care about the erosion of personal property/ownership. Maybe the jews are right about the goys.
>>735844946Im not forcing a rivalry, im pointing out only one group of people are ok with getting no games. No other fanbase is like this
>>735830887Do you know the state of physical games towards the end. My DVD copy of NFS Undercover had a 5 install limit. I cannot install it again because I have installed that game 5 times now.Steam is 100% better than what physical PC games would have become if they were still popular.
>>735830887>a bunch of stuff that didn't happen this waybased
>>735830887he didn't do any of these things. steam was garbage in the beginning and was hated by everyone for quite a while
>>735843632You must be 18 or over to post here
>>735833535you anti-valve retards have been saying this for decades, meanwhile i've had 0 problems and never have to do anything to transfer my library when i make a new buildkeep coping and dealing with your local 3rd backups that just became corrupted because its on some outdated WD piece of shit
>>735831097> He made Half-Life, one of the greatest and most influential games of all time.What did it influence?
>>735830887Can't really blame him when almost every facet of the global retail economy went at least part digital. Someone else would have done what he did eventually
>>735830887You are literally renting games on his own fucking platform, and for full price even though it's digital without box, disc and manual. You dumb-dumb!
>>735851647you are renting your own console and you pay more for games
>>735830887Because if EA had though of it first things would be much worse.
>>735851793What does renting mean to you
>>735851910agreeing to conditions that give someone else to override youlike you do on consoles
>>735830887You forgot.>invents lootboxes>invents micro transactions>invents the scripted moviegame>invents selling unfinished games>invents always online DRM>invents being fat
>>735851978So if you use windows then you are renting
>>735852168but i'm noteven then, you can easily install another OSon a console you're stuck with the toy that's 100x more restrictive than windows for years
>>735845263People usually care about shit like a house or a carMedia is fucking disposable to the vast majority of people and the bottom of the list of shit they care about "owning"
>>735852220Heres linux on ps5https://youtu.be/z3RtGnUqDIA?si=ZakGBeAn3a0Xiz9_
>>735831660Unlike hackjima, gaben doesnt pretend he is a genius g"aut"
>>735852419>if you don't update the firmware for years then maybe you'll have a chance to own itcool, but you yourself don't own your console
>>735830887>>kills physical game storesit would've happened one way or another; i'm not entirely for itfor multiplayer games it's ok, for singleplayer it's horrible (see Crimson Desert and Bg3 baldur's gate 3)Gaben's Valve is the Red Bull of gaming and i approve
>>735852538Its always disingenuous semantics with steamies when you point out they dont own their games
>>735852697Its always disingenuous semantics with consolecucks when you point out they dont own their hardware
>>735852434His fans do think he is though
>>735852734By your logic i do own the hardware but not the OS lol retard>you dont own phone cause you dont control OS
>>735852841no, you don't own the hardware since you bought it with the stipulation that you'll never be able to overwrite the operating systemany attempts to do so need to obviously violate the terms you bought it under on old firmware with bugsyour console has fuckloads of anti tampering measures to prevent that, you have a separate tiny soc just for security
>>735852697>>735853079>no, you don't own the hardware sinceother anon is correct in practicality. you don't own either intellectual property but it's harder to ban your consoleeven if Sony banned your playstation for any type of TOS violation, you probably still have whatever offline functionality. with Steam you're straight locked outgiven our overly new mobile world, nobody wants to schlep around their console and games and the sales numbers show it. unironically consoles became a dad thing lolit really is a difference without a distinction. you're better off donating to emulation in the long run than supporting either companyanti-steamies need to get a life>https://valvetruth.blogspot.com/2023/04/after-watching-platform-of-steam-and.html
>>735854723>it's harder to ban your consoleconsoles are running an operating system someone else is an administrator of
tell timmy I said hi
>>735830887More like>physical games commit suicide>fat fuck notices an opportunity and picks up the scraps before anyone else can
>>735831661take note this guy said 5 examples and not "any" example
>>735830887He held a gun to ourguy Tim Sweeney's head and told him to lay off 1000 employees.
>>735852697>>735855379while true, unlike Steam, don't connect to the server and you can play whatever games don't need a day 1 patch. which for the most part are Sony games and other minor onesi don't know to what degree Sony will brick your playstation>online feature exclusion or outright bricking it.with an online service like Steam, you have no choice other than goldberg (and that's Steam specific) but that means you have to plan it advance, with playstation you just exist some people like one, others the other. like i said, difference without much of a distinction it's a preference and choice thing, and choice is goodIMHO there is less uncertainty with an online goldberg service type of thing than with something you own physically. oddly enough
>>735830887Everything bad about modern gaming can be traced back to this fat tard. Fact.
>>735855990that's still a concessiona pc is the equivalent of having a jailbroken console day 1 where all the features are officially sanctioned from the get go
>>735831904yep. someone might argue about reselling the game, but ultimately plenty of greedy corpos wanted their own launchers and maybe even their own single-use keys, so it wouldn't be possible anyway.
>>735831438I had an amazing collection of physical games and consoles. Rows and rows and rows of cases, just full of games. House got broken into and the cops didn't even recover a fraction of it. Digital has been great to me. If I were to somehow lose everything in a fire, or flood or something, all I have to do is replace my PC and whatever else. All my games will be there.
>>735831002console physical is going extinct, they'll stop making them by 2035and digital reselling is simply impossibleat least on steam you fully own your pc, consoles are corporate drm cuckboxes through and through
>>735830887He never has been.Value are a company of liars and frauds. They do not deserve your money for their consumer-unfriendly practices.
>>735830887>good>goodwhats the problem here exactly?
>>735831739>THE END IS NIGH!!!!!!!any day now
>>735830887>>kills game rentingI thought /v/ hated not owning their games?
>>735858953Said the man in Rome
>>735852841>i do own the hardwareGo ahead and modify it then. Slap a bigger SSD in there. Upgrade your GPU. Install a different OS.
>>735859239in the 0.000004% chance that the multi-billion dollar company valve somehow shuts off steam, i'd just torrent everything back anyway. i fail to see the purpose with being a histrionic paranoid woman about this.
>>735854723It's worse than that pic makes it look. All physical storage media decay. Disks decay, so do cartridges. Hard drives break and hardlock. It'll last a while but eventually it'll just be gone.
>>735833535Only an issue for online only games. When it comes to buying games on Steam, you can either look at it as you either being a loan shark, or you donating money out of good will, because you don't actually "have" to give these companies money to enjoy their games if you catch my drift.
>>735859361Bro you decay therefore we truly own nothing and we should just rent from now on and live in a pod
>>735830887You can rent any game for two hours then crack it with a single dll though?
>>735859435I mean, I own guns from over 100 years ago that still work, and when I die someone else will own them, only minor maintenance and fixes needed. Games aren't like that, the physical copy will become unusable plastic in 50 years or less. Gone.
>>735855990How can you say"Covid 19 accelerates digital"When the trend literally stayed the same
>>735830887Steam has been a cancer since the moment it launched after half-life opposing force and counter-strike. Even Gabe knows it, which is why he's forced to put on a good guy act. Otherwise, gamers back then would have told him to fuck off.Funnily enough... one of the moments the facade slipped is the first time the Skyrim Paid mod garbage popped up.
>>735860070>steam is so good that you have to be stuck in a mindset from 20 years ago and keep up reddit based grudges to hate it
>>735860236If you like it I love it.Enjoy the fucking.
>>735852228>People usually care about shit like a house or a carExcept they don't. The norm is not to actually own these things, it's to take out a loan and effectively rent them from the bank.
>>735860274>Enjoy the fucking.do explain how i'm being fucked? there hasn't been a more pro consumer move in history than what valve has done with linux
>>735830887>kills physical game storesLiterally who uses them not for MTG/Pokemon nights?>kills game rentingAnd you can reinstall the game on demand.A better deal, I think.>Why is he the good guy again?Some believe Valve and Gaben by extention can do no wrong. The fact is that the company is trying to be perceived as the opposite of a big corp. And has some success. They get praise for putting the gamers (clients) first. It adds that every game they release is good in some way.Also Steam sales. Steam is the ultimate choice.The loose, "no bosses" structure of Valve does more bad than good imo, but people like it. They have desks with wheels so that they can join any team they find valueable at the time. Gaben profits directly from the good PR Valve has built for itself and is seen as "the good guy" as you put it.
>>735860070Also never forget the James "2gd" harding "is an ass" comment on reddit.Gabe doesnt seem like a partiuclarly nice person irl. He's just fat and very socially awkward with a autistic sounding voice which made a generation of source engine game players make fucktons of memes about himAnd apparently that was enough for everyone to assume the ultra billionaire privatiser of pc gaming, inventor of battle passes and loot crates, is a good person
>>735860393>Clearly talking about physical vs digital.>bu-but linux!What are you doing and why are you doing it?
>>735860646why are you delusional enough to believe physical would be everlasting if it wasn't for steam, you naive faggot?you're never getting the early 2000s physical back, it would be either starforce and securom tier garbage with limited activations or games for windows liveyou don't live in the real world and you're controlled by your irrational nirvana fallacy based seethe
>>735860801Please...Tell me how you really feel.
>>735860861i just didand you're unable to confront it because all your hate for steam comes from a naive and destructive nigger positionfuck off faggot, your physical would be raped by starforce and securom 2026 edition
>>735861042>i just didlol Yeah?>and you're unable to confront it because all your hate for steam comes from a naive and destructive nigger positionfuck off faggot, your physical would be raped by starforce and securom 2026 edition....The reality of the situation my beautiful little anon is that you just prefer digital media.That's it that's all.>and you're unable to confront it because all your hate for steam comes from a naive and destructive ni-No need to waste time on conjectured bullshit.Please...enjoy....your....fucking. I don't usually lean that way but you seem feminine enough let me know when it's my turn.
>>735830887Because he made you a favor by not letting you get attached to worthless things.
>>735861847what an estrogenated response, you addressed nothing at allif it wasn't for steam then things could've only gone worseand you're too deranged to see itgo on, propose an alternative reality where steam didn't take over and tell me how it would be betterlet's see the extent of your mental illness
>>735830887>kills game rentingRenting PC games was never a thing, faggot.
>>735862002>in my made up scenario it would be worse, now engage my hypothetical situation lol
>>735862169>things would be better because... because they just would, OKAY???
>>735862169kek.
>>735852697What's disingenuous about what the other anon said? You literally can't install linux on your ps5 unless you haven't updated it for a couple of years. And if you dont update your ps5 you can't play most of the new games since they literally lock you out of launching single player games unless you update your firmware. So essentially you have a $500 brick thats just sitting there for 2-3 years? Same story with Xbox to some extent. Xbox ONE(1) got jailbroken this year after almost a decade.
>>735830887Steam made gaming in developing countries highly accessible.Thanks, Gabe.
>>735862576>What's disingenuous about what the other anon saidCause its a retarded arbitrary metric for ownership cause you cant do everything and anything you want with it
>>735862610Thats not a good thing
>>735832198yes, when games are delisted you still own them , even though theyre not legally purchasable by others anymore, i still have my delisted games and i would assume the logic for when the store shuts down is the same
GOG is better but they weren't first and people have Gabe's cock wedged firmly up their ass and won't move anywhere else.Timmy boy has even done genuine good shit like saving thousands of forest acres so they don't get turned into migrant housing, what has gabe done?Oh right, build boats and live in New Zealand.
>>735830887Because fat retards sink their life into steam.
>>735862845>it's arbitrary and retarded when the terms don't favor me
>>735830887>renting PC gameswot
>>735832198picrel is just as likely as steam shutting down timmy. And for the record, any pc owner/gamer who actually cares about the hobby is already pirating installers for backups or backing up thier purchases. Im not saying thats all pirating is used for but anyone who cares about having backups is doing that. Good luck dumping physical console games without risking a ban from psn or Xbox live.
>>735863328What is this weird thing of recognising Tim Ebin has done a good thing but then downplaying the fact some of the boats Gaben has are research vessels.
>>735863517>it's not arbitrary and retarded when the terms favor me
>>735863638no, you can have your right to resell games, just don't call it ownership, it's too limited, you're just trading your license awaythe same way you can't say you own consoles because you're not the administrator of the system and you're explicitly violating the terms under which you purchased it by jailbreaking it and thus lose functionalitythe only thing you can truly own is PC hardware as that comes with bare metal access to everything
>>735863637Because most of those yachts aren't used for research and made for leisure It would be like Tim buying the land and using 95% of it for a data center then using 5% of some good cause like a wilderness sanctuary. That would not be good if he did that just cause he did a small good cause
>>735863759Damn i own nothing cause i can turn my house into a 500 foot tall castle, i dont own my car cause i cant make it a killdozer. I don't own my guns cause i cant cut the barrel
>>735863595NTA but I'm really glad I got a Blu-ray drive on my computer. I can copy all my ps3 games onto my hard drives and I may very well build a NAS just for them.
>>735863637Nta but Im not interested in dickriding either billionare so here's the basic idea of where some of this steam hate is coming from. /vg/'s /agdg/ has a retarded schizo who has an insane hate boner for steam and he has repeatedly confessed to making threads like these over the years because steam le bad. I generally ignore these because there is zero civil discussions in these and most of it is just blatant flamewar-ing. But I saw your post being last and figured I'd chime in.
>>735863991all of those are legal restrictionswhat are the legal restrictions on you not being able to jailbreak your console and overwrite the operating system? or mod your games?there are nonethis is entirely you entering a contract that gives up your ownership rights so you don't own your hardware
>>735864238>ownership is if its legal or not, even though legality changes from every country no i have no consistent definition of ownership
>>735860070Its funny because the state of elder scrolls modding today is essentially an endless pride parade hosted by Nexus Mods
steam drones speaking on ownership and you cant play your games in a different country, forget about playing steam on vacation but what would PC autists know about a vacation lol
>>735833653 WW3 has been talked about for 70+ years my man.Just enjoy life.
>>735864745>ownership is when some third party has control over my hardware even though they legally don't have to
>>735865125>caring about jeets>caring about chinks>caring about gooksyep, valve stay winning
>>735865125disingenuous brownoidit's for retards that abused cheaper games
>>735831739That’s more likely to happen to epic store than Steam. >Lay off a fifth of the work force because Fortnite isn’t making as much moneyAnd before you try to say UE, epic’s own reports say that UE is only like 15% of their revenue.
I don't thunk Steam is going anywhere doon, but I don't think people saying Steam and Valve will exist 'forever' are either using the same definition of that word as the rest of us or haven't put much thought into the logical inevitabilities hereLike of course eventually all businesses will cease to exist and all servers are destined to go offline for the last time, how could they notAt best you expect them to last longer than you will be alive so its just 'not my problem'
>>735830887>killsIf all Steam had to do was exist and offer a better alternative, it's not on Valve that these other businesses and practices fell by the wayside. Valve hasn't done anything to force its control of the market except offer a fantastic product. The absolute fucking gall.Physical Games:>Possessed a degree of inconvenience to acquire>In some cases started equating to digital products anyway because of file size limitations, meaning the box you bought just had a part of the game or a code in it while you downloaded the rest somewhere else (wasn't so much of an issue with BD consoles from what I remember, but how many people even owned BD drives for their PC?)>Retail locations weren't guaranteed to have the game you wanted if it was older/more niche, and buying the physical copy from their website resulted in a significant degree of wait time (meanwhile your friends are playing now). Especially a problem with PC selection since PC selections were typically far smaller at any game store I went to.Renting games:>Also inconvenient>Was always a bad deal long term>Was console-only>Became a significantly worse deal as games became bigger and more complex (renting MK 64 was perfectly fine, but imagine renting Oblivion)Meanwhile Steam grew to offer a huge selection of games, has regular sales, and offers both great consumer features and customer support. Its indefinite "ownership" is the only vague, distant, and potentially minor drawback in sight. Realistically, Valve isn't going anywhere for the foreseeable future—maybe if whoever takes over after Gaben fucks up tremendously—and the files still get downloaded to your computer for you to do with as you please. DRM is circumventable. Any online game you'll get screwed out of playing by a Steam shutdown today, won't be alive by the time Valve does shut down in the future (if we live to see that).
>>735830887He's Jewish
>>735830887>pander to mindbroken leftists>they will defend your global corporation for free14 years later and this meta still works
>>735830887Post GOG library or stfu
>>735835690the redesign's jaw is both smaller and rounder.the shoulders are still proportionally the same when you don't deliberately ignore the hip measurements.the neck width is almost identical, she just doesn't have a giant cartoon head anymore.by most people's standards the new design is more attractive."standing in a practical and effective posture is masculine, she's supposed to be deliberately pressing her legs together to remind me that she has a vagina" ???
why are pcbros such cattle?
>>735874082kek I forgot "v.alvedr0nes" is filtered
>>735874082>>735874126Enjoy your price hikes consolefag!
>>735830887>kills physical game storesGood.>kills game renting Good.
>>735876014>Enjoy your price hikes co- MMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMM GABEN I LOVE THE TASTE OF YOUR PENIS MMMMMMM SO TASTY
Oh look, another thread made by retarded console niggers who know nothing about PC gaming.Yes man, Gaben is heccin evil and behind everything bad in PC gaming. Things were heccin epic before Steam became a thing and all companies other than Valve would be heccin wholesome and play nice without the eeeeevil monopoly of Gaben! Kys.
Digital on pc isn't that bad since>You can buy from any store you want : steam, epic (lmao), uplay, origin, gog, dlsite, mangamer, itchio, a dev's website...>You can easly pirate and make backup of your game>Can mods your game>Upgrade your pc ? Who cares, your games are still hereOn console you're limited to only use the official store, store that will close soon enought, also if you upgrade (ps4 to ps5) you will to buy your game again/they won't be compatible/need a 10 buck patch
>>735874082We're not. Thanks for confirming you're a console nigger through and should not talk about a subject you know nothing about.
>DON'T TALK BAD ABOUT MY DADDY GABEN!!!!!
>>735830887Because of flash sales which stopped happening a decade ago and because basedlenniels can't let go of the HL3 meme. He doesn't give a shit about gaming anymore, he's too busy buying more yachts and likely molesting kids on private islands to care.
name a bigger faggot in gaming
>>735877872Don't talk about subjects you know nothing about. Will it blow your mind if I tell you EA put a DRM on PHYSICAL copies of games like Spore that limited the number of installs you could do with that copy?
>>735878096Sorry Timmy, but Gaben is not on The List. He just hosts comfy LAN parties on the sea and looks for cool fish. Meanwhile Timmy Tencent definitely seems like the kind of motherfucker who would partake in Pizza Parties.
>>735830887Delete your steam accounts. Own everything / be happy.
>Don't talk about subjects you know nothing about.
>>735878264Timmy Tenmillimeterdick is too autistic to be invited. Gaben seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't mind a 15 year old hippie girl with dreadlocks to suck his knob.
>>735878267>nooooo don't settle for secure and reliable fast downloads, you should slooowly download your games from unreliable sources that ALWAYS want you to run as admin for no particular reason at all while dodging viruses and fake downloads! Btw there's nothing strange about your computer's fan suddenly sounding like a jet engine while command prompt windows pop up , that's just normal :3>>735878268Your shitty meme won't change the facts, console peasant. Feel free to prove me wrong though. How much do you know about "copy protection" in the 2000's and how PC gaming was treated by the industry in that period of time?
>>735878414You suck gaben's dick for free lol
>>735878451I asked you a question.
>>735878485gog is better lmao
>>735830887Lol he isnt at all he is big into BCI motb allegedlybut his company has made some of the greatest games of all time so thats why people like him
>>735878514I asked. You a question.
>>735878563Steaming steamie
>>735878580Ok so you lostGG lol
>>735878602I don't use steam, I automatically win.
>>735878614You refuse to prove me wrong, so you lose.
>You refuse to prove me wrong, so you lose.
>>735833535if you care this much about owning the games you buy on steam, as long as it doesn't have denuvo you can just store everything in drives and put steam emu on it cause steams native drm is fake as fuck
>>735830887cuz he allows me to buy games from billion dollar game companies for $20 instead of $90. Imagine EA or Ubisoft dominated video game digital sales platforms. U think there'd ever be a 50-75% off sale? Fuck no. They'd still be selling Battlefield 1 for $90.
>another valvejeet coping thread
>>735863054I thought you didn't own the games you bought on steam?
>>735863595either owning physical copy or digital copy, you end up losing your games anyway
>>735833535Buying a game on disc or cartridge is also technically long term renting. Every company but Nintendo hasn't put the full game on the disc for about a decade now, and Nintendo's just starting to do the same. "Connect to the internet to download and install the latest patch, or else you can't play the game you paid for."And even in the case of older games, you don't really have permanent easy access to your games just because you have them on disc or cartridge. Every publisher, going all the way back to the Atari days, has taken pains to make copying the game files from the medium as difficult as possible. They've never wanted you to do it, and they took every measure reasonable to stop you. It simply wasn't part of the value proposition of your purchase. You weren't entitled to a replacement copy if your cartridge broke, or your disc got scratched. But you are entitled to redownload and reinstall a game you "own" on Steam or another platform, across any compatible machine you can log in on. In some sense, that's actually an improvement. There was a time when you could only ever install a game three times. With the x86-64/ARM convergence of all the consoles, backwards compatibility comes free, and there's no reason to believe that'll stop being true in the future.The truth is that they always wanted to keep you on a short leash, but exactly short it was possible to make that leash wasn't well understood. Ownership and the ability to keep things available even after they've been abandoned don't necessarily mean the same thing. If you own the last extant retail copy of Bleepo Blorpus's Gay Adventure for the Shitbox Ninteen-Ought-Six, and the wax cylinder it's on breaks down, you're just as much out of luck as someone who bought games through Direct2Drive's launcher in 2004, or someone who bought The Crew on uPlay.
everything else is far worse. imagine having to go through microsoft store to buy games.
>>735860638me and my buddies were on ventrilo and someone had managed to get his personal phone numberwe called him and he answered, we made up some bs about wanting to do an interview but he knew we were just a couple of kids goofing aroundhe couldnt have been nicer dude and gave us the time of day when it would have been totally reasonable to tell us to fuck offthat and he has a long history of personally answering basically every email anyone has ever sent to himhe is well liked for a reason
>>735830887Digital distribution of games was inevitable. Steam was just so good and convient that the transition was faster than it might've been with alternative providers.Plus GameStop dismantled the physical distribution from within by focusing on merch instead of reasonable reselling of older games. They could've become the western version of Bookoff, but instead decided to ditch consoles older than 10 years.
>>735830887>Gabe MADE this happen>What? No...of course the invisible hand or consumers can't vote with their wallet, we're the victims here!Oh Timmy, you ignorant slut.
Anti-Steam schizos have been seething and doomsaying for 20+ years. Just get over it, you lost. Nothing was going to save physical games on PC, don't blame the people that had the foresight to see that.
>>735830887>walshart losing game sales>more games than ever on the most open gaming platform on the planet>the platform that allows you actual control over modding, cracking, and backing up files permanently >on a gaming store where DRM is entirely optional unlike consoles where everything is locked down and indies get sued for making a game>this is bad somehow
>>735830887The difference here is that people are able to play 20 year old titles easily on steam, I can't do that easily with any physical console games.
>>735831097Half-Life 2 started the fucking awful trend of unskippable dialogue as apposed to skippable cutscenes.Sony's movie games once separated gameplay from story and were highly replayable until they copied Trash-Life, so kill all millennial PCancer critics for what they did to western singleplayer games.
Steam bad am I right fellow contrarian zoomers? SecuROM and just not being able to easily buy any PC games at all good!!!!
Steamdrones.Not even once.
>try to buy pc games at whatever game stores i had locally>1 shelf out of 50 is for pc games, rest for the various consoles>it was always just blizzard games and stuff like the sims>had to pirate basically everything
>>735880379>Every company but Nintendo hasn't put the full game on the disc for about a decade now, and Nintendo's just starting to do the same.what are you talking about>http://doesitplay.org
>>735882828Every game I've tried to play on console for the past ten years hasn't let me launch the game unless I update both it and the console first. I stopped bothering.
>>735882002People who bitch about Gaben "killing gaming" and gushing over physical don't know things were pretty sucky for PC bros before Steam got big. They're all console casuals and consoles were favored over PC all through the 2000's.
>>735882916playstation?>fifa doesn't count you faggot
>>735830887He is a PC nerd in a country full of tendies. My hero
>>735883005Both PlayStation and Xbox. And I'm not just playing EA and Ubisoft shit either. If I don't let the game update, it just drops me back to the dashboard.
>>735883125stop lying you filthy cross-dresser. criss crossnobody cares about outer worlds 2 and borderlands woke
>>735882916I had that experience the last time I tried to play 360 games. >plug 360 into a old tv because my monitors don't have speakers (it's a 360 elite where you needed to buy some other bullshit to allow you to use another audio output which i don't have)>no internet because it doesn't have wireless (once again you had to buy another bullshit thing to let you use wireless) and i wasn't running a cable across the house>put in fm3>"nah mate, needs an update please connect to xbox live to download">put in gears of war 2>"nah mate, needs an update please connect to xbox live to download"Just play the fucking game. I didn't even realize the 360 era was susceptible to this shit until it happened.
I love these threads because it showcases just how hard consolefags are seething.
