Are you going to jump into PC gaming now that gaming PCs are less expensive than PS5s?
I guess that price is good enough if you've never had a pc before.
gaming is dumb. I'll just watch on youtube. which I can do on my phone.
>>735903565No one plays game anymore, I watch most game releases on Tiktok.
That pc is a brick for anything made after 2019
>>735903642FONEMUST .... STARE ... AT .... FONE
>>735903734find me a better PC for $652. take your time
>>735903734Good enough to play anything in the steam top 50
>>735903565>no monitor - $500>no keyboard - $100>no mouse - $50>no gamepad - $150You're gonna spend almost two grand on that piece of shit before you even boot a game
I don’t buy used/open box and already have a Pro so I’m set. Not had a desktop since 2015 ish and I’m fine without one.
>>735903852drama queen alert. you can get a mouse keyboard and gamepad for $40 all in
>>735903852150 gamepad lolwat
>>735903734??Isn't a 5060 like twice as powerful as a base PS5?
>>735904019
>>735903852>keyboard$5 dell piece of shit is good enugh (I use a $30 keychron)>mouseSame but I got some shitty logitech>gamepad$20 tops>monitorCall it maybe $200 for a really good 1080p monitor or $150 with a low end 1440p since he's got a 5060
>>735903852It's always a bit shocking that these things have such massive graphics cards and obviously not enough RAM. Abmid level CPU at best, and a relatively small hard drive before we even really open up the hood and look at the specs on the components. 8Gb VRAM? is the 16Gb RAM DDR4 or DDR5? what's the speed and latency on the RAM and the SSD, what kind of motherboard are we looking at here! are there any open slots still? can I overclock? Is the PSU going to be good enough to upgrade the computer later or is it going to buckle under more RAM and another cooling fan? These prebuilts look like a deal at first glance, but theyre usually a collection of weird bargain bin parts, and no matter how big the graphics card is they're usually heavily bottle necked by the rest of the system, and it's usually a weird card with not enough VRAM anyways.
>>735904306>the only option to buy a gamepad is the best onerich idiots are still idiots
>>735903852>$500 monitor for a 5060bruv
>>735904646Kek remember when it used to be the opposite problem, there'd be prebuilts with high end CPUs and integrated graphics
>>735904028meaningless when good pc optimization is a unicorn nowadays and you need much more powerful hardware than it should require to run something smoothly
What's a decent pc nowadays for a budget of 2k usd.
>>735903565is this worth it? The pc i want to build costs $4100 i dont think its worth it when i can pick this up today.
>>735903734There are no good games made after 2011.
>>735905013bro just get used parts from the junkyard /s
>>735903565>8Gb vramAlready obsolete.
>>735903565>5060 8gbyou cant even play gta with it when it comes out, the required minimum is 16gb chud.
>>735903565And play what games?
>>735903852And the PS5 doesn't need anything either?>no TV - $300>no couch - $150>no headset - $100>no bitches - priceless
>>735905013A prebuilt with those same specs was $1750-1800~ like 6 months ago. Jesus Christ, even prebuilts got jacked up.
>>735903565yes and to play nortubel only
>>735905489 (me)I just want to add on that $2,300 is what the 5080/9800X3D prebuilts were at 6 months ago too. The fucked up thing is that prices could even get worse than they are now for all we know.
>>735905335You mean in 5 years when GTA come to PC after its release?
>>735903734I've been able to play every game I've ever wanted to play and I still have a 1080ti. That PC should be fine.
>>735905013This will probably be an ok prebuilt PC for most use cases. if the one you're trying to build yourself costs 4100 I would double check your use case and actually see what you need versus what seems popular or important. I run my gaming PC on my 1080p living room TV. I won't ever need anything better than a 3060 graphics card at that resolution. My CPU, VRAM, and RAM are otherwise top end, so my gaming PC is a juggernaut that blows through most gaming requirements at half the price of other gaming PCs. Double check what you actually need, most systems are bottlenecked by VRAM, CPU, and RAM.
>>735903565Not a terrible deal, all things considered.>>735905370There's a few stores offering new and old releases, you have a possibility to emulate the majority of shit that was never intended to be on pc in the first place. Aforementioned stores have frequent freebies and sales but you can also buy keys to activate from third party sites for dirt cheap. Or you can ignore all that and sail the seven seas.I understand it's dumbfounding for a retard like yourself to have that much choice as you seem to prefer to have slop directly injected down your throat without being offered much for an alternative, but it's also possible on pc to have such treatment so you can feel right at home.
>>735903565>8GB VRAM
i already have a pc with a 5080 and a ps5. i am immune to the recent happenings
>>735903734Can't be worse than spending 1000 bucks + 80 bucks yearly subscription to play at upscaled 720p and 45fps
Any card worth upgrading to from a 2070 super? Seems the price to performance is still fucked for cards
>>735904906prove itthe reality is that you're coping and consoles just upscale from 720p medium
>>7359062869070's price to performance buttfucks every card available and has big performance headroom with overclocking and bios flashingif you're deranged then maybe 5070no other nvidia card is worth it
>>735903852Use gamepad+ your TVNow fuck off
>>735905335Who gives a fuck about GTA? I only ever see people here talk about it.
>>735903565pair that with your steam deck for premium 2014 gaming
>>735906550>still cant do native 4k in 2026>$700Crazy how much GPUs have stagnated and gone up in price. Guess ill wait another 4 years
>>735904801>elite controller>bestthe elite are overpriced shit
>>735903837>it doesn't matter that it's shit. It only matters that it's a PC and it's cheapbuy a used dell optiplex for $60 then
>>735903947>my cheap mouse is great but it's a pain to have to clean the ball every day
>>735907329You can easily get a cheap laser mouse. You absolutely do not need a high end mouse or keyboard unless you're a professional gamer. You look like a retarded poser playing single player games with a $100 mouse and $200 keyboard.
>>735907329none of the first party controllers are high endchinkshit fucking mogs them at half the pricefirst party shit is in fact equivalent to office tier kbm
>>735907916Who do I look like a retarded poser with a mouse and keyboard to?
>>735907986>has to buy clone chinky gamepads rather than Sony or Microsoft legit ones ha ha ha ha
>>735908194>legit ones>still don't have hall effect sticks so they drift in monthsit's all fucking trash
>>735903621Yeah that's a great entry level PC. Would buy for my 12 year old Niece.
>>735908302>$50 controller is too much. we only have genuine GameSir replica here
>>735903734i played elden ring at 1080p on a much much worse system.
>>735903565I'm a PC mustard race fag and I can promise you a RTX 5060 is a bigger waste of materials than a PisS5.
>>735908194>>735908302I got the XBES2, and I have the new 8BitDo Ultimate. They are ok. Honestly the only first party one that impresses me is the Switch 2 Pro. I'd save my money and get a GAMESAAR or whatever other chink brand over spending an extra $100 for nothing.
>>735908409how does that dick taste? you're defending actual garbage here just because it's first partyyou can get a hall effect controller for one third of the fucking priceembarrassing
>>735908409I find it funny that people hate on GameSir for the name alone but swallow down the slop Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft sells them.
should mbe 150306050
>>735908527>>735908538>>735908550the poorfags come out to defend their chinky controllers ha ha
>>735903734Nigga I can run ultra preset cyberpunk on a 3060, 60fps if I just lower it to high preset.
>>735908616do you ever have an opinion that isn't unbearable londonjeet?
>>735908616I have a Raikiri 2 that already latest longer than the last Microslop controller I had
>>735908704>the controller which costs 3x the MS lasted longer than the MS didshocking
>>735903565>8GB
>>735908783the elite 2 I tried came with stick drift out of the box. That's an achievement for something so expensive
>>735903852My xbox 360 controllers still work perfectly on my PC to this day. No drift, no sticky buttons, all flawless. Why are you retards shelling out hundreds?
>H suffixWait, they're putting laptop processors in pre-built desktops now? That's bretty cool.
>>735908881 I've never had one. I buy a new Xbox controller about once every 18 months or so. I've never had to replace a PS controller though.
>>735908862considering that's the ps5 pricetag and that console shares 12 gb between ram and vram that's pretty adequateyou'll be expected to upscale from 720p medium just like it
>>735908896Gamepad apes are the type of people to smash the buttons like they owe them money or throw their controls in fits of rage. They either have to regularly buy new ones for spend a hundred on an Ultra Durable Retard Resistant gamepad that'll hopefully last them more than half a year/
>>735903565Actually not bad value, though I think I'd try to double up on the RAM after the fact. Running a 5090 myself, and have 64 GB RAM, but that's way overkill.
>>735908945>I buy a new Xbox controller about once every 18 months or so.my last regular xbox one controller died after 11 or 12 months as well. I was sceptical about third party controllers but I wouldn't buy a first party anymore at this point if console support isn't the highest priority.
>>735903565Already got a gaming laptop :)
I'm sticking with PS5 Pro and I'll probably move on to PS6 if Physint isn't cross-generational. Sony knows they only need one game PC doesn't have and they've already found it. I might actually wait for PS6 Pro
>>735909198How hot does that thing get?
>>735908903It's quite bad, because it's using some proprietary motherboard and CPU is soldered. SO-DIMMs instead of normal DIMMs, IO sucks in general.It's for desperate people.
>>735906120you need more?
>>735906976if you can't afford to replace then you aren't elite
>>735909356boom.
>>73590944612 is the bare minimum for local slop, yes.
>>735909587>aidie
>>735908616I have the most expensive ones you fuckin' tool. It's not worth it... Except maybe SW2PRO
>>735909568sega genesis looking fuck.
>>735909375I've known about obscure AliExpress mobos that have done this, and the mobile Ryzen 9 boards are a decent value. It's actually perfect for normies who want to get into PC gaming. One of the most intimidating things for newcomers is the CPU mousetrap, and a soldered CPU completely eliminates that problem. Not to mention the lower power draw and better thermals.
>>735903565This is what I am aiming towards building. It's not even top end and it's still 2.5 grand. Getting the box at least running would be less but still north of a grand. It is aiming to be efficient, cool and quiet though so should be cheap to run and last a long time.
>>735904028the 8GB vram model is a lame duck, and nvidia sells it that way on purpose
>>7359109201. if you want to save £10 and get a better, bigger cooler, you can go with peerless assassin 1402. that motherboard fucking sucks because it's b650, go with b850 for pcie5 and better upgradability down the line3. you picked an atx case and a micro atx board, either get a smaller case or a proper atx board4. the 5060ti 16gb is shit value, get either a 9070, 9070xt or a 5070 if you must have nvidia
>>735905013That's probably the best you can get right now
>>735908675https://youtu.be/4uAi_FmOKMU
>>735909198>costs 3000 fucking dollars (with tax)>for a shitty overheating laptop with worse specs in every single possible way than the pc I built last year for under $2000Holy christ what a stupid fucking purchase
>>735903941why did you move from pc to console gaming?
>>735911839That cooler is probably not better given that the one I chose is the quietest one on the market while also offering very good cooling for an air blower. I don't need PCIe5 when the sticks are PCIe4. I chose that case because it has a drive bay and a closed top. Most don't these days. That 5060 Ti was chosen because it is power efficient while still offering good performance. It is better than what AMD are offering in that sphere.I have in fact thought about this you know.
>>735903734True, 8gigs is cracked; you need 16 gigs bare minimum to operate games.>>735903851Good enough to emulate all games up to PSX era and some Gamecube games since Gamecube is less powerful than PS2 and thus easier on the hardware to run as emulation and even Xbox OG is more demanding as well.
Seeing as this is a specs and computer thread, do these parts look decent enough for modern gaming?
>>735911929and is your PC portable?
>>735912234This is the most inaccurate take on console emulation I have ever heard in my life lol. Please shut the fuck up
>>735903642dis nigga likes to watch
>>735912387You've built a next gen gaming system, anon. Why are you here asking us if you can afford those specs right now?
Anons, why do any m.2 SSDs I use on my PC run like shit? I've tried both PCIE, NVME and even with a USB-C enclosure and every time I have problems. My boot NVME works fine.
>>735912502how many pcie lanes does your computer have?
>>735912448>No arguments only accusations.Crymore fagcube blast haver. Nintendo always had half weaker hardware than what's on the market on purpose to cut costs.
>>735912498because I know next to nothing about computer components.
>>735912080>That cooler is probably not better given that the one I chose is the quietest one on the market while also offering very good cooling for an air bloweryou control your own fan curves>I don't need PCIe5 when the sticks are PCIe4. but you're going to want it if you want to upgrade down the line, you can pay the same amount for an actual ATX board with pcie5 as you do for that old and small board>That 5060 Ti was chosen because it is power efficient while still offering good performance.huh? the 9070 is more power efficient and you can cap it to consume as much power as the 5060ti while giving you way more performance
>>735912561it's this mobo: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B650-GAMING-PLUS
>>735903565That's a laptop processor btwWould still do way better than consoles but still
>>735912685PCI lanes are controlled by CPU, anon. If you don't know, you probably don't have enough. Your GPU uses 16 of them by default, and then each SSD uses 4 each.
>>735903734You’re a retard
>>735912574then yes anon, if you can afford all that go for it
>>735912867Thank you, anon
>>735912809I was able to slot it into the slot below my GPU before, but it stuttered like crazy and steam constantly said disk write error.My CPU is a 9800X3D btw.
>>735905335>the required minimum is 16gb chud.How would it run on ps5?
>>735912616The aim of the build is one that is power efficient and reliable (which also means cool and quiet) so that it will last a long time without breaking and not make you cry at the electricity bill. It could be faster if I didn't care about the rest but faster doesn't matter if it bricks itself after a year or two. The 9070 is a 220W card. That 5060 Ti is a 180W card.
>>735912993the 9070 is considerably more powerful and will still be a lot more performant if you cap it to 170w in the driver
>>735912993>The aim of the build is one that is power efficient and reliableGet a 5070, undervolt it. You can get to ~150w with stock performance.
Use these arguments (MoE friendly)-ngl 999 \-ot "exps=CPU" \-b 4096 \ (reduce to 1096 and 512 if eats too much, that's the batch and ubatch processing, basically token speed related)-ub 4096\-T 8 -tb 8 \ (CPU cores and threads, adjust accordingly, Tom your own hardware)-c 45000 (example, adjust accordingly, it's the context)--jinja--flash-attn on--numa distribute (if your motherboard supports it or something like this, forgot)-np 1 Ctk q8_0 -ctv q4_0 (the kv cache, remove if you can load it fully on beam, let it run at fp16)Add this nigger \ after each argument
>>735912913It still sounds like PCIe exhaustion, you only have 24 lanes to work with which means graphics card and 2 ssd's is maxed out your capacity.
>>7359050132k for a 5070 jfc
>>735913404Fuck wrong thread FmlIgnore this anons
>>7359134395070tiyou shouldn't be buying that right now anyway, that thing is $950 now
>>735913258>>735913320A 9070 is about £200 more expensive as well (and so is the 5070). I might upgrade the GPU in future but for now that one is fine as right now I have a 1050 Ti so compared to that it is still a massive upgrade.
>>735909052Most controllers have such shitty build quality that by the time you tard rage them they're probably drifting and sticking anyway.
>>735913434That's really unfortunate anon, I would have thought using a USB enclosure would have circumvented the PCIE lanes entirely. I guess I'm retarded. If I got another motherboard in future, what should I look out for to run two M.2s and my 7800XT and 9800X3D without any kind of stuttering?
>>735913528>A 9070 is about £200 more expensive as well ???
>>735913786nta but he's probably talking about on Amazon, the 9070xt was 649.99 last week here in bongland.
>>735913786
>>735913994that's the 9070xt, not the 9070
>>735908616Good goy, you DO have a Dualsense Edge, right? Make sure to get a new set of stick moduls for when the current ones blow out in a month, that'll show it to them brokies.
>>735913994oh and also, if you want to hold on to that motherboard it's going to bottleneckthe 5060ti only has 8 pcie lanes
>>735903734That PC takes a massive shit all over any console.
>>735914169Even then it's still £590 compared to £450.
>>735914415it's £520, i literally posted the pcpartpicker listing
>>735903565>Take out loan for a small amount of 2,500>monthly payment of $40>interest not that bad>find something with 64GB>find something with a 5090>call besty buy"Hold SKU: 89284291 you fucking nigger, I'm coming by there by tree fiddy."Done.
>>735914481For a brand that uses cheaper and so less reliable parts maybe.
>>735906120Plenty for 1080p
>>735914550then the powercolor one is £540 if you're that pettypowercolor is absolutely a trustworthy brand
>>735914620Like I said I want something that lasts. I could get some cheap Chinese bodge job brand that might save me some money now but not when it explodes due to being cheaply made shite.
>>735914682what the fuck do you think asus is?you should really not buy that 5060ti if you want to hold onto that bad and old motherboard that will bottleneck it
>>735914790A reliable brand known for using high quality parts.
>>735914682Not him but I really would not recommend a 5060, the build quality and throttling is terrible regardless who produces them and their benchmarks are fairly unremarkable. You're better off getting a 4070, or a 7900xt.
>>735914909I'll think about it I suppose. Thanks for the advice.
>>735914824what the fuck, no, you're not getting quality out of a 60ti tier gpuasus is known for forcing malware onto their users
>>735906469That's what it is really, nothing to do with optimization, but rather that console will upscale shit for you, while on PC you'd have to go through all these motions yourself. No one does that, hence "muh optimization"
>>735915078>60ti is BAD!>Asus FORCES MALWARE on usersnigger what the fuck are you talking about
>>735904028Nah but it's a bit better
>>735915270you're not getting high quality parts on a 60ti and what is armoury crate forcing installs?
>>735915147What motions? Check a box that says "upscale" in video settings? You cucksole jeets are retarded.
>>735903852>no gamepad - $150jeezus no financial sense at allsony, microsoft and nintendo deserve to rape you
>>735903852>>no gamepad - $150my gamesaar tegenara cost me £22 bongbux and it's the greatest controller ive ever used (im a combo autist with DMC)
>>735912414>implying I want to be
>>735903734>>735903852Consolefags copingand they're ropingall of them deserve to die, all consoles deserve to die
how old is /v/'s computer?
>>7359169852023.
>>735903852I've picked up everything you mentioned from a thrift store for passable quality (admittedly the monitor one was a surprise) for $12 totalSeethe more retard.
>>735916337Unironically gamesaar is passable for stuff like emulation but it wouldn't hold up for a modern fpsIt all depends on your usecase, which is just something /v/ seems entirely incapable of comprehending.
>>7359169851993(floppy disc reader)-2025(5090), I picked up the last part on Black Friday last year.
>>735917517I just use it for hack n slash games, FPS I use KBM.
>>735916985Motherboard, CPU and ram from 2015 with a 3060ti I bought because my old card blew up.
>>735903565I would unironically do a meme build like this pic related if I were starting out. (Seethe 3rd worlders with your expensive gadgets and prices.) That computer has 5060ti and i9 core cpu. The unironic nacon ps4 meme controller is there to be suitable for single player games and souls likes. Under $2k euros for the whole shebang (minus shipping.)
>>7359169856 years old
>>735903565>open boxEnjoy having the components stolen or replaced.
>>735916985Motherboard and 32GB of DDR4 RAM are from 2019.CPU and GPU are a 5800X3D and 7900XTX that I got in 2024.
>>735917680>3D hack and slash = controller>Top-Down Action RPGs = MK>FPS games = MK>Platformers/2D Brawlers = Controllers>Racing Games = Controllers.>JRPGs = Controllers.>Western CRPGs = MK.Its really simple.
>>735903565There really needs to be a breakthrough in ram and small battery technology.
>>735913731>what should I look out for40 pcie lanes
i want a 5090 and not get raped financially for it
>>735921196you need to update your cope, PC now has a $1000 budget to mog sony with
I've been PC gaming since before half this fucking board was born.
>>735903565>8 gb vramlol
>>735903565i got a better pc a few years ago for $800-ish that can play everything even today. the big games like cyberpunk can only be played at mid settings but idc about fancy graphics that much.
>>735912234>Good enough to emulate all games up to PSX era and some Gamecube games since Gamecube is less powerful than PS2 and thus easier on the hardware to run as emulation and even Xbox OG is more demanding as well.Your bait didn't go unseen.Stay basd, Retard.
>>735904306Pffhajaha>>735904801>the best onePphghgfHAHAHAHA
>>735921238you can easily find ps5 for $350 or under at multiple places
>>735921968you can easily find pc for free or under at multiple places
>>735922052Where is that?
>>735922114literally anywhere if you know
>>735903565High end gaming, be PS5, high end PCs or anything is a fucking meme.You should never pay more than $400 for a gaming device.
>>735922052>>735921196
>>735922267>he doesn't know
>>735921968Even if that was true (it isn't), you still can't find a PS5 with games
>>735922480$350 and under is the standard going rate at pawnshops,ebay,facebookmarket,craigslist,etc.
>>735922745No.
>PC I built in 2019 buying the same exact parts would cost over 3x the amountBy next year it will be 4x. I treat my PC as I would my own child now. Did a full dusting, reapplied thermal paste to both CPU and GPU. Added another SSD. I feel like if my computer dies now my life is over. I don't have another three grand to replace it.
>>735917517>fps>controller??????????
They are called luxury items for a reason.
>>735916985I built one in 2022, and another in 2025
>>735924561but according to this thread you only need one dollar for a new pc
>>735903837The point is the price, you mongoloidIf you can't find PCs cheaper than that, it means PS5s are cheaper
>>735925992man the tax you paid on that scam is what we all used to pay for ram sticks...
>>735903852I have all those things
>>735904306I use an old xbone controller when I emulate console games. Works perfectly fine. Otherwise it's keyboard mouse for everything, and you can get a logitech set for like $20.
>>735903734>5060 8gbIt can still use DLSS and play at 1080pIt's fine, it's also reasonably priced with barely any markup.
>save 300 dollarsHonestly not bad. I'm waiting for Memorial day though...
Luckily I got a PS5 two years ago. Although I'd still stick with PS to avoid being associated with...those types.
>>735903565Is that an open box PC? Why would you trust the components in that?
>GAMING pc>can only run ps3/360 era trash
>>735903837I mean that comment means nothing. If you find an old windows 95 ibm for $150 and ask someone to find you a better pc for $150 that doesn’t make it good.That thing is a potato, and a used potato at that.
>>735905036Nah, 2011 is just the last time you allowed yourself not to be a cynical ass who can’t enjoy stuff anymore.
>>735905475Are you telling me you live in a house with no tv or couch prior without getting a gaming system?
>>735903734the CPU is the only big problem with it and that really just depends on what kinds of games you're playing; some never even hit 10% of my i7, some hover at 40%, even when said games use similar GPU powerthe 5060 is pretty shit, but for <$700, it's not a terrible dealRAM is modular and 16 is okay for the price point
>>735903565It's really sad at this point
The ultimate end of times / poorfag setup is a PS4 Pro
>>735903734https://youtu.be/MXhH67n0lm4?si=7BNfxuEDYHQCj_zlIf it can run Wilds at a playable framerate, it will be fine for most games at 1080
>>735903852oh does your 800 dollar 4k tv come with the ps5? didnt think so
>>735903852>this is bait
>>735903734A 5060 is capable of any game at 1080p and it will do most games above 80fps, and above 60 if it’s a crazy demanding game.
>>735903734The ps5 equivalent is a 3060. This pc mogs it and for $250 less.
>>735905475>>735929009
>>735903565>jump into something I've been "into" since the 90slol, lmao
>>735903852Console itself $900then:>$200 (yearly, after price increase)>$200 controller (since you're going overpriced gamepad we'll just make this fair and since they're designed to break after a while we'll make this a repeating purchase every 2 years)>Games (since I know you're not going to be okay playing shit like Fortnite) $70 (and we'll be generous and only have you buy one game a year)Now, with the ps6 coming out in 2027, and the ps5 having came out in 2020, and the ps4 coming out in 2013, we have the average 7 year lifespan. That means, for console, buying only a game a year, you'll have spent $3990 over the entire generation. For the same price you'd spend on a playstation in total, you'd have been able to save up and buy a great pc, capable of running modern games at the best settings.
>>735908616I bought an Xbox pro controller for $150 and a third party one I can't even remember the name of, and the third party knock still works even after being dropped several times while the Xbox one broke after a year of light use.
>>735924561I really hope that you used the legendary Honeywell PTM7950 for your CPU and your GPU! That stuff is like magic!
>>735903801wow this is so deep...
>>735904306you have to be genuinely retarded to be paying 150 bucks for a controllers with alps sticks
>>735903565>Intel >5060 Oh man what a waste of money
>>735903565>16GB ramEnjoy your two chrome tabs.
>>735929064>the 5060 is pretty shiyou distunging freaks that pretend a gpu that is literally labeled high end cant run anything.you propably still use a 1050ti
>>735929275I dont know why, but for some reason laptops generally seem cheap right now.You can get a used laptop on ebay for cheaper than used pc and even with better hardware
>>735903565Pcs really got cheap, didnt they? (Unless you buy them from jewish overlords)Got that one recently and plays everything on ultra pretty much
>>735903852Your monitor is the single peripheral that you will use the most, it makes sense to spend money on a good one. Plus they last fucking forever once you buy one.
Sometimes i forgot this place is filled with children and third worlders who think this is any money.
>>735903852Your post made me understand that its finally time to leave this website. There are legit, like LEGIT subhumans who look at this post and get baited by itIs it AI larping as human beings?
>>735939739I can't use /pol/ anymore because literally every statement is treated as trueLike if you opened a thread with "How did Iran kill President Trump so easily" you'll get 200 posts of people agreeing it was simple to pull off because Americans are jewish trannies that can't fight, then finally one anon might go "Err, Trump is still alive?"
>>735903565Shan't
>>735903565if this isn't good, then what kind of PC is good?
>>735937908>pretty much>8gb vramYeah nah
>>735940035Depends what resolution. At 1080p then yeah maybe.
You don't buy a PC because its cheap, you buy it because its powerful and under you control, instead of a single use toy. You can make it cheaper by looking for good deals, building it yourself, and other factors, but its always going to be capable of more than a proprietary console, and you're going to need one anyway for all your browsing, work, media, and other usage Consoles are an outmoded concept when they're basically a proprietary PC (or phone/tablet) that has been gimped into only doing what Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo etc. wants you to do with it. The days of console benefits went away long ago and were totally obliterated after either the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube/Dreamcast or definitely the PS3/X360/Wii generation. The Steam Deck is perhaps the best example of what a modern 'console' should be - its a ready to go pick up and play bit of PC hardware, with an open source Linux based PC OS. You can load things outside of Steam and even use it at the same time as the Big Picture UI, connect it to a dock, and use it to do your taxes if you want because its (You)r PC, not their console. Now granted its still physically a portable handheld so it won't be as easy to customize the core hardware, but you can still upgrade or mod a good bit of it with ease. Laptops can fall into the same paradigm Buying or building a desktop PC means you can upgrade it as you like and customize as needed. In the long run its much cheaper; consider the "quality boots" analogy, but more importantly you have control! >>735904306Its insane to me that they haven't come out with another revision yet continue to sell them at that price. The S2 was great for its time if you didn't get one of the lemons, but it lacks so many features. MS now has "gameinput" which can handle gyro and other shit and still apparently has refused to make a new pad that is at parity with the DualSense or upcoming Steam(Deck) Controller in terms of features.
>>735910920>$300 optical drive>$700 on storagethis has to be bait
>>735915463ps5 is 2000 series rtx card power you fucking faggot retard
>>735904028Its on par with the 4080 with multiframe gen on
>>735903565I got freaking 'ecking caught in MULL during the earnings dip and then the oil bombings. I'm not getting into no nothing. Had my two rigs paid for and everything but then I didn't. Copilot told me to hold.
>>735916985Brand new practically
>>735903852>no monitor - $500>no gamepad - $150????
>/v/ shits on consoles and claim this is a PC board >they are completely ignorant about PCs
>>735940605>Optical Drive capable of burning M Disc or anything really including Blu rays>1 SSD OS, 1 SSD Software, very large HDD Files
>>735910920I don't know anything about pricing in GBP, but there's a lot of stuff you can improve or are just plain insane. >CPU7000 series is good, but now outdated. Get a 9800X3D at least if you want to stick with an 8c/16t gaming PC, or if you stream or do anything else that can use more than 8 cores frequently, the 9950X3D is the way to go for 16c/32t. >CPU coolerNot bad, that does seem expensive, way too expensive for that cooler though. I'd also look at Arctic , Thermalright, and Noctua>Mobo600 series is outdated the new stuff is 800 series. Also why an uATX? you pay a premium for smaller mobos and they have less expansion so if you don't need the size at uATX (microATX) or mITX, just get a standard ATX board (or EATX on the higher ends). Anyway, I suggest not cheaping out here. X870E boards are preferable but there are some good B850 if on a budget. >RAMOkay, if you only want 32GB and don't plan to upgrade it. Kingston tends to be stupidly expensive compared to others, but DDR5-6000 CL30 is solid; I prefer GSkill generally. make sure they have EXPO as its basically guaranteed to work easily with AMD CPUs. >StorageWD Black SN850X is good; there's a newer version if you want max performance thats the 8100. Alternately, the Samsung 990 Pro or 9100 Pro , or a handful of others. However there's no reason to get a separate WD blue drive like that much less a smaller one? Either buy more of the WDBlack or Samsung M.2 drives, or if you want a value get Samsung 870 EVO SATA 2.5 4TB SSDs for cheaper; they make a great option for your installed game library or something. For the 10TB HDD, that's expensive; there are cheaper ways to get decent storage drives, if you want 'at rest' storage. You can shucck the drive out of a WDElements or similar external and it will basically be a whitelabel version of a WD Red, Gold, HGST etc.. depending. >GPU Are you decided on NV? 9070XT, 9070, or 9060 16GB may be equal or cheaper vs 5060Ti 16, 5070Ti
>>735941327I have updated it since then.
>>735941092I just want one, ideally 8tb, gen 5 nvme and then four 20tb plus spinning discs to replace what I have already and add more storage at the same time.
>>735907986>>735907329entry level cheap shit is the intelligent purchase for breaking into the world of limitless customization..my mx518 from 09 eats a new 10 doll hair mouse every 5 years as a sacrifice to the tech gods.
>>735903852>litterally any game pad from OG xbox and ps3 to current gen works fine>REEEEE I MUST BUY THE MOST EXPENSIVE REEEEEE
>>735903852Who the fuck acutally uses muh gayming keyboards, ive been using the same dell PS2 Keyboard for like 1.5 decades now
>>735903565technically a ps5 is 350 dollars if u buy used but i still dont want one
>>735941406Ah, okay. >CPUGet a 9800X3D or better. >CoolerSame as above>Thermal pasteGood choice.>MoboNice update for B850. I've had some bad experiences with Gigabyte cutting corners. I'd look at Asus (Strix B850-F Neo or something like that I hear is one of the better ones) or MSI (Tomahawk) for B850>RAMStill fine, but if you think you want 64GB at some point, get a single 32GB stick instead of 2x 16gb kit. >Storage>Uh...multiple blues and now an 8100 but only 1TB? For a boot drive, I'd not take anything smaller than 2TB. SN8100 is great, but if its stupidly expensive because its PCIE5, I wouldn't worry too much is not worth wasting that space to drop down to 1TB vs the SN850X or Samsung 990 Pro. WD Red+ is still expensive as fuck for only 10TB. Look into the other storage drives on DataHoarder or one of the Backblaze reports, and pull from an external for less than half the price (at least in burgerland). >GPUI'd either upgrade to the 5070 Ti 16GB if going NV, or if you want AMD go 9070XT / 9070 as both maintain 16GB. >Case Its a pretty solid case >PSUNot a bad option I think, but 750w may be a little low for long term. >OpticalDo you absolutely need a BluRay writer? That one is very expensive and i'm, unsure why.>OSDo not pay for Windows 11, especially Home. Head to /g/ they'll sort you out. If nothing else you can buy a key from some of the same vendors that sell game keys for like $10 for Pro.>Sound cardTotally unnecessary these days and there are other options vs SoundBlaster. With a decent mobo, the onboard sound will be solid these days. Save your cash>Monitor It depends what you value and what you want to spend, different from your PC itself. If you awant a 1440P 27", I'd consider an OLED w/120hz+.>Keyboard / MouseOkay I suppose...but that's an entirely different conversation. LOTS of options >SpeakersMore expensive than I thought, limited quality. Lots of options for speakers too
>>735907329>>735903852This is your brain on consoles.
>>735903642You can play games on your phone. Emulators even
>>735942493Not all the parts are to be bought at once. The list is just what a final build might look like. The processor I'm going to keep as I don't want to spend too much money and I think it's plenty fast enough. The cooler I might look more at. The 2x16 RAM is dual channel I believe so it's faster than a bunch of mismatched sticks. For the SSDs I haven't decided quite what to get yet, might be the PCI5 black and 1 blue or 2 blues and then maybe buy the black later but I have them all listed so I know my options (I know I want 3 drives so that the OS, software, and general files are all on their own dedicated drives and don't get in the way of each other). I looked at the 16GB GPUs and decided it wasn't worth the extra money as I won't be doing 4K where it would really be needed. 150W of headroom on the PSU is fine I think. The disc drive doesn't need to be literally that one, it's really just a placeholder in the list for whatever one I do end up putting in. Same for the OS really. Onboard audio is OK but that card is a lot better both in terms of sound quality and capability (like surround sound which the mobo doesn't even have the jacks for) and it's quite cheap so why not. The monitor I might also look more at. The speakers seem good enough for my purposes - Not audiophile level but good enough for films and music.
>>735903565Go for the 16 GB VRAM
>>735943241>playing diddy ahh uncslop in 1959 + 67Yoooo this unc lowkirkenuinely be crazy fr fr ong
>>735906469>720p mediumYou're lucky if it's 360p low
>>735903852>no 4k TV - $1000>no TV stand - $500>no couch - $500>no online subscription - $100 per year>no sales - $50 extra per gameYeah I think PC is still the cheaper option
>>735903565>open box so used>normally 1k>5060Hahaha enjoy 1080p upscaled 60>But I dont play anything before 2010Cool, get a 50 dollar xbox 360
>>735940579>You don't buy a PC because its cheap, you buy it because its powerful and under you controlTrue, but as a nice side effect of that control, it also ends up cheaper because no one forces you to pay an extra subscription to use the internet you already pay for.
