Is this by far the best console on the market now?
Best how? 99% of its games are available on PC. It's just the Astro Bot machine.
>>735914030Most normies play consoles this is by far the best console you can buy
If I was American I would trade in my ps5 slim now to get the pro. But im in EU where no places do trade in shit. I'm not paying 900 Euro for it lol.
>>735914064If you're a normalfag, sure. I don't see a reason to care.
>>735914124I have a slim what’s the point of trading it in? There doesn’t seem to be huge improvements
>>735913938Sony stock has been plummeting ever since the ps3 had no games. The company is a shadow of its former self. It’s riding off of its success for some easy money. I sold my Sony stock last year, over $300 million dollars and it’s already paying me more now that I’ve handed that to Microsoft instead. Blackrock shouldn’t be partnered with Sony. Blackrock basically is owned by black people who don’t understand gaming the same way Asian people do. You can see their stock just keeps going down because of failed investments in their games department.
>>735914124but if you trade can't you have a Pro for cheap then
>>735914204im saying no place in eu really does trade in. so its not an option for me.
>>735914287you can't ebay or fb marketplace or something
>>735914030isn't Sony stopping to port their exclusives to PC
>>735913938Obviously yes, but whether it's worth it is another question. Most games have worked perfectly fine for me so far on the base model, so I don't think I'll bother upgrading. Elden Ring had some drops down to maybe 40 but it was still not enough of an issue. The only one is Dragon's Dogma 2, but as I understand it it's not any better on the Pro because of the limited CPU.
>>735914361too much effort desu
>>735914475I was gonna get it and pay the difference I think it was gonna be 329 after my trade it, but it just didn’t seem worth it
>>735913938If it costed 600€ and came with 2tb of replaceable storage and a disc drive, yeah, but for 900€ they can shove it where the sun doesn't hit.
>>735913938I would buy one if they had some ai shit to unlock framerates in PS4 games. I don't want to play Dragons Dogma at 30fps
>>735914479I thought you wanted a Pro now, I believe in you Anon
>>735914179no point, ps6 is probably only 2 or 3 years away. If we were less than half way through this gen, it would be different
>>735914792I was going to do it but I realized I wouldn’t be future proofing myself much with the cpu stil being pretty weak
>>735913938Even if you're buying it with no PS5 owned at all and were doing it right when it released there's no purpose in purchasing it as PSSR tends to ruin a lot of games it touches compared to the base PS5 and all the benefits you gain from it are primarily just smoothing out Performance Mode to not look so ugly and stay more at 60. Even if you have a base PS5 to compare to and meticulously and autistically analyze screenshots there's virtually no noticeable visual improvements outside of it making some aliasing super far away better or ever so slightly improving texture quality that most people can't even notice. PSSR2 has helped smooth out some of the garbage visuals we had early on, but it's still not worth it.It's not like the PS4 Pro where the base PS4 was an underpowered device and you could visibly see the major improvements from buying it. With the PS4 Pro games released after it expected you to have one while with the PS5 Pro most devs don't even really seem to care outside of the whole "Better performance mode" deal. Most devs are pretty much always targeting base PS5s as their platform to make their games on and if you have a Pro you get very minor bonuses.The PS6 is also going to be out in a few years and will obsolete it with a better PSSR that isn't so garbage, will likely be cheaper, and the PS5 Pro forces you to buy a stand and a disc drive which just adds to the cost. It's pointless. It's the one "Pro" system (Xbone X, SeX, and PS4 Pro) where the juice isn't worth the squeeze at all.
>>735914556Nah, probably not even for that. Maaaybe if GTA6 runs like crap on the base model I would consider it.
>>735914792>no point, ps6 is probably only 2 or 3 years awayok so how far ways is the PS6 pro then
>>735914961I knew it was all a scam when the 2.0 version dropped and people still couldn’t tell the difference pre or post patch.
>>735913938>has more price increases than games
>>735915017It took years for the PS5 Pro to even leak to the point that I didn't even think it was going to exist (PS4 Pro leak happened like a year after the PS4's release) so if it happens it's gonna be years after the PS6 and likely be even more underwhelming and pointless than the PS5 Pro. Technology isn't advancing as it used to, particularly in terms of affordable consoles, and the improvements would be minimal at best. At this point there's no reason to even think about the PS6 Pro, because it would be 4ish years after the PS6 release and likely just have a slightly better PSSR implementation since the PS5 Pro is essentially just a slightly overclocked PS5 with a few minor improvements.
>>735915060PSSR2 is noticeably better than the original. It is FSR4.1
>>735914742I dont care that much. I hardly even play games
>>735915250so if I get a 5PRO now, next only time I upgrade will be the 6PRO, sounds fair?
>>735913938It's by far the most capable console available right now. Since the launch of PSSR2 every game looks better on the PS5 Pro.
>>735915436Just buy a base PS5 and save yourself $400. There's no point to the PS5 Pro. What is even your reasoning for wanting it? Because, again, the visual improvements are negligible at best and it's primarily just to not make Performance mode look like dogwater and stay at 60 (When the base PS5 already more or less sticks to 50+, it just looks like ass, and Quality modes are a consistent 30 the overwhelming majority of the time). You can count the games on one hand that look better on the PS5 Pro and it's Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth, FFXVI, and Death Stranding 2,
>>735915436I would honestly try to find a cheaper base model now and then go for the PS6. It's always a pain being stuck on the old gen when new games targeting the new console come out.
>>735913938I find it absolutely hillarious that they raised the price just as google brought ram prices downplaystation be playing 4d chess here with everyone's wallets
>pay for ps5 pro>now need to pay monthly for psn>now need to buy every game for 70-80$ or get stuck playing their games in rotation
>>735915586>What is even your reasoning for wanting it?perfectionist autism, I want to cover all the bases and beyond so I forget about any hiccups until next time>>735915668I see
>>735913938When will GT7 come to PC?
>>735913938>console in 2026
>>735916265Yes 100%
>>735915943If you're open to it maybe see if you can find a good deal on a used base model, there's bound to be some around from people who upgraded. Buying in this late in the generation would make more sense if spending less, and maybe you could also use that as a justification for curbing your autism.
>ConsoleBrown poorfag thread
>>735916725Yea a 900 dollar console is for poorfags… what a fucking clown you are lmao
>>735916265It's a very good and simple option if you just want to play some of the latest AAAs, and you don't play enough to warrant buying a $3K PC.
>>735916791Cheaper than a PCYou're brown and poor
>>735916265Agreed, I'm not paying $20-$30 monthly just to use my own internet lol.
>>735913938>best consoleshit is the best thing that can come out of an assholedoesn't mean it's good
>>735917065>Cheaper than a PCexactly
>>735917065I have both consoles and pay for the premium tier of each sub a month. You aren’t on my level
>>735917284this Anon is constipated
>>735917284I dig in my asshole and shit in the shower, and sometimes I find gum in my shit that still smells minty, so you're wrong
>>735917065NTA but I'm neither brown nor poor, but why would you pay out the nose for capacity you're not going to use, or diminishing returns you're not really going to appreciate all that much? You don't buy a 4TB SSD if all you're going to do is browse the internet and office work.Besides, I really like the frictionless experience of just plopping down on the couch after work, pressing one button, and already being in the game where I left off the day before.
>>735917701That strange
>>735913938It is by far the console on the market.
>>735918386Fucking moron
All these poor people lmao
>>735913938They upgraded the GPU but kept the CPU bottleneck iirc. So the upgrade is completely pointless.
>>735917291Unless you got it during the sale last month where annually it was the same price for both extra/prem the trials/cloud streaming stuff is scam tier unless you have a portal and only then it’s a maybe imo
>>735919223Why did they do this? So people couldn’t just use the ps5 pro all ps6 gen?
>>735919128It's funny how console-tier PC owners constantly try and validate themselves against consoles. They don't realize they're basically the same when compared to a good PC. Arguing over 10-20% FPS difference or upscaling in performance vs balanced mode means nothing and both look identical when not in direct comparison.
>>735919223pssr2 certainly makes it worth while now for it’s launch msrp but not the soon to be price especially for anyone with a ps5 where you could sell it and likely only need to shell out $200-250 ish. The 2tb storage is nice meaning you don’t really need an expansion drive and unless you have a physical library you can skip the disc drive
>>735919524If going by last crossgen I don’t expect ps6 to get any games that require the upgrade until beyond 2030. I don’t even know what or how they could market it to make it seem like a worthwhile upgrade.We got ssd’s which was the biggest boon from ps4>5 on the experience. The controller eh, it has some cool features that you forget about as few games really use em. The one thing they need to borrow from Xbox is the battery compartment for controllers and something like quick resume.
>>735919569750 was steep too
>>735920212It’s certainly not cheap but I sold my Steam Deck after giving it a shot for a few months so that covered much of the cost. Coulda saved $50 if I just got this during the holidays instead of the deck. I knew I didn’t want a handheld but figured it was a decent way to start of a Steam library before the Machine came out but that being delayed and my experience with the Deck showed me just how far even the most console like experience was from the real thing.
>>735920741Big spender
>>735919223The upgrade is not pointless. It sees benefits in many games. you are a retard
>>735920989I play mostly mp so it’s not a huge difference
>>735921046Yeah thats fair. Most mp games on base ps5 run at 120fps already
>>735917289>>735917291>>735917775>>735919559You're poor and brown, that's why you play on console.Simple as
>>735921398With the next increase and the possibility of next gen going $1k+ that narrative goes out the window
>>735921471Poorer and browner than me, lol
>>735921398Wrong, it's because I'm white and lazy.
>>735921693>Brown, poor, dumb and lazyftfy
>>735921861You?
>>735921398>you're poor and browneveryone on this site is poor and brown. You included.
>>735922249>>735922387Speak for yourself
>>735922490>I'm not poor. I have a RTX 2070ti
>>735922490No I'll speak for you.
>>735922387im white but have prison tats
>>735914198>stocks are plummeting for 20 years straightI'm sure it will be over in approximately 2 weeks.
>>735922704Who the fuck are you?
>>735914124My friend in Germany asked me two weeks ago if I want a Pro (I didn't have a Playstation before but I was curious about some games) because the local Media Markt has a sale for the new 7121 for less than 700 EUR with the drive. I said fuck it why not.Turns out it was a good investment.Why don't you sell your system if you can't trade it in?
>>735915879Brought RAM prices down my ass.
>>735914961PSSR2 is essentially what they promised with the PS5Pro at the beginning. There are already tests out of there so there is a noticeable difference. HOWEVER there aren't that many PS5Pro patches out there and most games are just marginal bumps. With that said first party titles still utilize it well and there is the Requiem argument. I don't blame anyone who doesn't believe the Pro will be worth as it is still up in the air but if the PS6 will be pushed back which is more and more likely then the Requiem type differences could be the norm for newer games.>>735915060This is not true, the difference is visible with PSSR2 in all titles, especially in the ones with dedicated patches. You can argue the base PS5 is good enough for you but the difference is visible.
>>735913938>Repeated increases in the price of online.>Repeated increases in the price of hardware.>Dynamic pricing for digital games.>Phasing out physical drives...>...because physical media cannot be dynamically priced based on spending yet.
>>735924010It’s visible but I guess I expected more? More of a leap?
>>735921471>instead of being for the poor and stupid, consoles are now just for the stupid
>>735915586The Pro has three strong argumentsRE9 Requiem (only console RT mode, other third parties might follow)Ghost of Yotei (Quality mode 60fps, first party will definetly follow suit)It is extremely likely the PS6 will be pushed back.+1If GTA6 will have a 60fps mode it could be Pro exclusive as well.PSSR2 finally got to the point where games won't run worse on the Pro than on the base system and if something will take advantage of it it could be huge.Sure it is not for the average user, but we are living in clown world. The 2TB SSD in it probably justifies some of the cost already and depending on the memory crisis what "little" you lose by buying the system is nothing compared to what they ask for software, subs, dlc whatever.
if you don't own a PS5 Pro by now then you aren't white.
>>735915879>just as google brought ram prices downAll Google did they enabled the AI corpos to make even bigger models. This won't stop them buying up everything because if everyone gets the boost then everyone just gets hungrier.
>>735924667>t.
>>735924775
>>735924128Yes, everyone expected more. Sony essentially promised PSSR2 out of the gate which they didn't deliver until now. Sony promised performance + quality mode which wasn't really a thing outside first parties. RE9 Requiem is the first game where the Pro stomps the base console without question and I completely agree with everyone who feels disappointed. At this point since everyone has still a few days until the price hike it is entirely up to the person if they believe if there will be enough Pro patches in the future to justify the console. If the PS6 will be pushed back which is extremely likely I would argue there will be. Also it is almost certain the PS5>PS6 transition will be even slower.The 2TB SSD kind of helps because the prices are wild now but it is completely up to you.
>>735925083Pro doesnt need patching anymore outside of specific things. PSSR2 retroactively applies to all games that had PSSR implemented.
>>735925083I have a 2tb I put in my slim like a year and a half ago which kinda made the pro even less attractive to me
it puts out so much heat, it makes my 1 bedroom shit shack hot as fuck in here, ps5 pro samo let us breathe!
>>735925148>that had PSSR implementedI know but you can filter PS5 enhanced games in the store. If you remove the first parties and the garbage (Carmen Sandiego, seriously?) there is barely anything left and most of them is just a resolution bump you either see or not.I'm not talking about PSSR games in general, that is fixed. I'm talking about everything not Rebirth or Requiem and such. I'm kind of shilling the system yet I admit even right now you are still buying it based on promises they might or might not deliver. And their track record is less than stellar with the Pro.
>>735925320We need to play Saros in the best quality possible sarr!
>>735913938No. The switch 2 is.Pis5 is just a shit pc.
>>735925320It’s a bit unfortunate the devs are responsible for how good or bad the improvements are and how ambiguous they can be with descriptions.
>>735913938I've got a laptop just as good, nigga.
>>735914064Most normies have a PC
>>735914419No, only speculated. Not confirmed
>>735925501Reminds me of the One X upgrades where anyone could put an One X enhanced sticker on their game if it used ANY features in any kind of manner of the One X. Same with Series X|S enhanced which was left vague as well.The problem of the Pro is its sales are inherently lower than the PS4Pro so most devs don't feel like they need to go out of their way for a few million users (like Capcom).Still because the GPU is beefy enough it may lead to the Pro somewhat keeping up with ray tracing while PS5 will drop it for newer and demanding games. 007 First Light has an insane PC requirement (12GB VRAM, 32GB RAM for 1080p60fps). I'm expecting the Pro to show off there as well because the base version are set up to suffer.
>>735925759I had the one x and ps4 pro, they didn’t get the best support and definitely weren’t worth the cash looking back
>>735913938Yea but it's basically the winner by forfeit
>>735925842If you had a 4K TV it was worth it and many times they included a 60fps mode. The Pro consoles kind fo fucked both Sony and MS because a bunch of very vocal users got used to 60fps and they expected it from then on. So most of the power of the PS5/XSX was "wasted" on 60fps modes.Mark Cerny stated a few years ago he was completely surprised almost every game has a 60fps mode because they targeted 30 with the PS5 specs.
>>735925478this, basically the only console with true exclusives and an actual niche as "the portable one"steam deck is sort of muscling in on it's space, but i wouldnt consider it a real competitor, especially because valve itself doesn't release games that aren't practically online only or VR
>>73591441970% of Marathon's sales were on PC. ending PC sales would be suicidal.
>>735924667>if you don't buy the gun and ball machine than you aren't white!fuck off shlomo
>>735924589Six-ish games being decently better is truly not worth a $300ish bump up in price, especially if you can tolerate 30 Quality which the base PS5's can do on basically all games very well. I know PSSR2 improved a decent amount over the original, but it's my understanding a lot of the older stuff that looked awful with it still aren't exactly the best like Silent Hill 2 and Alan Wake 2, it just smoothed out a lot of the garbage visuals it had in the original run.It makes zero sense from any angle you go at it unless you are obsessed about GTA6 and want the best experience, or you really absolutely have to have RE9, GoY, FFXVI, and FF7 Rebirth looking somewhat better than the base PS5. The base PS5 as it is is already more than good enough, and the PS6 is soon considering Sony was already talking as if they're preparing for it already, so at best we have like three years before the PS6.>>735925842I have an Xbone X, PS4 Pro, and SeX. They were all worth it over their originals. I do not have a 4K TV/monitor and use them exclusively for 4K. If you played any of these at 4K you're an idiot outside of maybe the SeX.Xbone could barely run anything at a solid 30 at 720p or 900p and once the Xbone X released almost everything started allowing 1080p 30/60 with some 4K modes. Assassin's Creed games for example are night and day between an Xbone and an Xbone X.PS4 Pro was an enormous upgrade over the original. Virtually all games looked better, stayed at much more stable framerates compared to the shaky 20s, consistently got better performing modes, devs developed primarily for it so base PS4s got worse and worse performing games as the gen went on, and Boost Mode allowed everything released before it to be stable in general (Just look at The Evil Within for example).SeX is just better than the SeS, I shouldn't even need to explain it. The performance is night and day for $200ish more and you get a disc drive.
>>735926028They’ll keep bringing live service to pc but single player will either be exclusive to the console or they’ll go and make a silly launcher for em. There’s zero chance they’ll want future ps5/6 games playable on Xbox Helix meaning they won’t hit Steam at the very least.
>>735926204>I do not have a 4K TV/monitor and use them exclusively for 4KWhoops, mean 1080p. 4K on the PS4 Pro was a fool's dream and always ran worse, 4K on the Xbone X was a coin flip if it even worked, and 4K on the SeX tends to have problems keeping a stable framerate.
>>735926295The pro really pops on oled, a decent 4k tv will look ok but not near it’s potential
When are you goyim going to start blaming your retarded faggot cheeto leader for the price increases?
>>735926458He has been a huge disappointment I will say that
>>735926204>if you can tolerate 30 QualityI can't. It is not even the question anymore, 60fps is the minimum for me and that is where the real cutbacks happen so Quality+performance is very important for me. If I understand right you are playing these systems on 1080p. Don't take it the wrong way but then why are you judging the 4K performance of the systems? I'm playing on a 4K Oled with VRR. Sadly the Playstation VRR support is not system level like the Xbox so good performance is even more important and the Pro gives that boost for non patched games they need.
>>735927338>Don't take it the wrong way but then why are you judging the 4K performance of the systems?Because I intended to buy these for the 1080p experience but still looked into how they were overall before buying them and researched their capabilities extensively. The SeX is really the only thing worth going to 4K for. PS4 Pro has tons of issues running almost anything at 4K but is very stable at 1080p barring some exceptions like Disaster Report 4 and City Shrouded in Shadow which even the Pro can't do anything about. Xbone X was more a coin flip at 4K and you pretty much required the game to have an update or come with Xbone X profiles.
>>735914030>ask a specific question about consoles>”but PC” autists replyEvery. Time.
>>735913938Is it worth upgrading from a base PS5?
>>735928550If you have a oled and really care about graphics yes. If not no
>>735928550Its loading times are pretty crazy goodThe big one I noticed was VR2 games. VR2 sucks btw, all VR has fog-behind-lens issues, the tech is garbage, but the games took forever to load on my normal ps5, I’m talking sometimes two minutes. Pro got the same shit done in like five seconds, was pretty incredible. Haven’t replayed as much intense shit but that’s a huge improvement. Some games look way better, like Stellar Blade, some look worse because the devs were lazy, like Silent Hill f, but overall it’s probably the best option for high def gaming
>>735914030I mean I love my ps5 and I actually prefer it over my pc these days. Thing is PC is already an afterthought for most major devs, and the fact it’s about to become prohibitively expensive for most younger gamers, like to a crazy extent, is going to make it even more of an afterthought.A decent PC from here on out is essentially going to cater to ai purposes. The moment they perfect ai porn on local models they will exist solely for gooners who never leave their basements.
>>735925640Most normies don’t have a top of the line one. And that number is only going to drop in the age of ai.
>>735929301The funniest thing the government could ever do is create a local model that can make realistic porn of anything, make it completely safe, and then after like 5 years have a buried option that will expose everything anybody has ever generated to the public and to law enforcement. There’d be almost nobody left here or in the White House though.
How good does horizon look on the pro?
>>735914124Here GAME stores allow you to sell your console and games, and Amazon has a partner to sell your old device, at least you can sell your old MacBook and phone, also mediamarkt buys laptops and phones.
>>735915993Never
GameStop trade-in value will go up for the PS5 right? It’s currently sitting at $342 for the Slim Disc Edition.
>>735930192It should but if you wait the pro goes up too, what are you trading it in for?
>>735930230>what are you trading it in for?Switch 2 games. I played everything I want on the PS5.
Are you playing with power anon?
Is that the one with no games and costs a miniscule, scant, mere $1100 once you add the mandatory stand and disc drive?
>>735931487Who the fuck buys physical anymore
>>735914030kys PC jeet. Hope your 15 years old toaster will explode freeing the world from (You) and your shitty kin (the PC gamers)
>>735931636>BRO YOU DON'T NEED THE DISC DRIVE, JUST BUY DIGITAL AND REPURCHASE ALL YOUR GAMES ONCE THE CONSOLE CATCHES FIRE DUE TO THERMAL COMPOUND MELTINGSnoytrannies are the most deranged, blind loyal fanbase, holy shit. Even if you take off the drive, you're still spending a grand on a flammable paperweight with no games.
>>735931821Your games are tied to the account retard
>>735913938Honestly I adore my ps5pro it is an amazing console IF you have a 120hz oled display. If you're still playing with 60hz and/or lcd you can stay your broke ass on the base ps5
>>735931990I have both so 120hz 4k tv but no oled.
>>735913938Why would anyone spent almost a thousand on brick that can only play games
I have one, it was a waste of money but this price increase is good because i'm going to sell it for more than I paid for it.
>>735931705Nice data retard
>>735932282kys jeet and take all PC niggers with (You)
>>735932152why would someone buy used for more then $500, you retard
>>735932638Jeets don't have computers Cope If anything a cattle izzat device like a console is more their speed since they're to stupid for computers
>>735932847They are some of the most advanced people with electronics and shit, they all use Pcs
>>735932996>Fewer than 10% of Indian households own a laptop or a computer.[1] In most developed countries, on the other hand, computer ownership is above 75%.[2]>Among the 30 million households in India that own a computer, the majority have a laptop (90%), while 20% own a desktop. A little under 10% of those who own computers report having both a laptop and a desktop.Meanwhile pic related lmao, consoles are twice as common Projecting consolejeet
>>735932847Were do you think first world countries not-usable-anymore PCs are shipped at?
>>735914030are you illiterate?
>>735933290They are smart people, the most advanced.
>>735933290>Jeets 17% on consolesThat's 83% for PC, big win toaster-kun.
>>735932073Oled is a game changer but 120hz gets you 60% of the way there. 40fps modes are a godsend and the frame time feels closer to 60 than 30 despite what you would expect. Also i highly highly disagree with the tripfag gassing up the ps4pro saying it was more worthwhile than the ps5pro. I can't recall a single game getting a 60fps update on the 4
>>735914030>STELLAR BLADE CAN RUN ON PC--Can it run on YOUR PC?
Sure if you like no games and getting cucked by a dogshit cpu (performance mode in open world games hitting 30fps)
>>735913938Isn't it basically the only console on the market now?
>>735933567It runs on a 'eck, so probably
>>73593349576 average iq Which is why they're more likely to use consoles and amount to 0.8% of steam traffic despite being 17% of the world population >>735933517No? It means that less than 10% of jeets have access to a pc while 17% of them have a consoleDid you learn get those magnificent reading skills in university of Hyderabad, saar?
>>735933573Name 1 (one). All the best looking games out currently run at 60 with full rtgi and rt reflections (crimson desert, re9, ac shadows).
>>735933573Ghost of Yotei on performance mode never dips and looks jaw dropping even on base PS5. My buddy showed me it running at full settings on his Pro and it looked even better. Suckerpunch are wizards.
How did they pull of such technical wizardry?
>>735926028>800k>Online only.>There's never been more than 88k people online.>Peak was when the game was in beta.You telling me that 622,000 people are playing on something other than Steam?Why do these numbers not make sense?
>>735933669Cope jeet, PCs are mostly used in third world for gaming. First worlders play on consoles, this is not even a recent news.
>>735914064Most normalfags play mobile games.
>>735938025Any good games like subway surfers?
>>735935047>Third world plays on PCSays right there thag Americans prefer consoles though
>>735929617>Implying any soul dares to willingly play horizonAnon, I...
>>735913938The more it costs, the better it gets
>>735914030>"playing" games on a PCsure sure, right
>>735938418It’s mindless fun and looks beautiful
>>735938757Are you 40?Go take a nap
>>735938984Are you?
