The Playstation 6, launching in 18 months, will cost between $700 and $800 USD.
>There are actually people who think the PS6 will cost less than the PS5 ProAbsolute retards.
>console fags are now paying old mid-tier PC prices
>>735921694The PS5 Pro is under $700, anon.
>>735921640Or $699 with proper subsidies, which are likely. PS5 was sold at a loss initially too.
Ok, but how much are the games going to cost?
But will it have games?
>>735921743
>>735921907Looking at PS store sales, roughly the same as Steam sales, aside from normal AAA pricing.
>>735921941Does this mean the prices for products are...DYNAMIC?!
>>735921640kek, PS6 isn’t coming until 2032
>>735921926TES6 will probably come out around the same time
>>735922000You're supposed to follow up by pointing out that Playstation consoles have not had games for the past 20 years.
>>735921640So, $900 for PS6, $1200 for Xbox Project Helix, $750 for Steam Machine 512GB with controller.
>>735922491>$750 for Steam Machine 512GB with controller.Hah, but seriously. It's all relative. If the Steam Machine drops for $1000, an $800 PS6 will look kind of good.
>>735922682But the Steam machine has a massive library of games. PS6 will literally have no games.
>>735921926It will unlike the shitch poo
>>735922724Oh, yes. A massive library. That's why Steam Machine 1 and Steam Machine 2 were such big hits and why Playstation is hanging on for dear life.
but the ps5 pro is 900......
>>735921640Sony will not subsidize the console lol. It will cost 800 dollars.
>>735921640great another no game having console I'm not buying
>>735922860If they don't subsidize it, they could repeat the mistakes of the PS3 and Wii U. Overpriced products the market didn't want.
>>735922346Biggest offering of third party/multiplat offerings, alongside titles like Bloodborne, Demon's Souls remake, Astro Bot, Ghost of Yotei, Gran Turismo 7, etc, etc.
>>735921640Why are snoys so fucking retarded and demented?
>>735921640Excellent news! This means I wont have to play with poor people online :D
>>735923274Cross-platform support
>Why are snoys so fucking retarded and demented?
Sony Derangement Syndrome thread
>>735923438Get new material, mentally ill faggot.
>Get new material, mentally ill faggot.
>>735923128Depressing list. How did things get so bad?
>>735922794You lost hard this week Eric
>>735921640>$699 is still possible with a reasonable subsidy>subsidyHow will they ever make that money back when each generation has less games than the previous one?
>>735923117Sony won't subsidize it. Instead they'll strip standardized features from the base poorfag model. Possibly even inject more ads
>>735924130Lock recharging the controllers behind a $5 fee per charge.
>>735921640If it's 18 months then the price will be $949.
>>735921640lol not happening, they just raised PS5 Pro price to $900
You honestly have to feel bad for snoys sometimes.HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>735923850qrd on your video?
>>735924295iirc teachers took their nintendo switch
>>735924130Increase PS Plus price on each tier by $50 (again)
>>735924295The teacher was a snoy
>>735924130Whales doing MTX. Most of their money comes from retards on games like Fortnite and Genshin these days.
>>735924130I'm sure they'll figure something out. They're industrious people, the nips.
>>735924595>Playstation>Japanese
>>735924190>Instead they'll strip standardized features from the base poorfag model.Good?
>>735924595GTAO2 is going to make Sony so much fucking money and they don't even have to do a fucking thing. Unreal.
>>735921640Pretty cool, I'm not going to buy it but I am excited to see how it measures up to the computer I built 4 years ago
>>735924289I'm sure they could drop the PS5 Pro price when the PS6 launches.
>>735922491The Steam Machine won't be $750 unless google's new optimization makes the price of RAM plummet back down to the old levels soon. But in that case, the PS6 would be cheaper too.
>>735921640Who in their right mind would buy a ps6 after ps5 barely had anything at all
PS6 and PS5 will be running the same games in the 2030s. It will be a luxury product sold at a very high price. Think Apple's way of doing business.
>>735921694>Kepler always post leaks on his x>shitpost constantly on the neogaf forum >Retards take his shitposting on the forum as official leaks
>>735924819Isn't the Steam Machine also kind of weak for a "next gen" console?
>>735924826The same reason people upgrade their PCs despite having a largely similar library over time.
>>735924826Probably the same people who bought a PS5 after the PS4 barely had anything. No, but seriously. Who buy's a console just for a handful of exclusives over a 7 year period? Now those people are morons.
>>735921640>PS6 will be cheaper than the PS5 ProSo are Sony charging $900 for funsies?
>>735922724But they'll have Gamepass!
>>735924954They are charging a lot for it because it was always a higher profit low volume product. The PS6 will need to be more mainstream.
>>735924867That doesn't really matter when the most common components(RAM and SSDs) shot up in price. 32gb of RAM alone is $400, SSDs are $200. Throw in the controller and then all the other internals and $750 is way too low unless 32gb of RAM goes back to $100.
>>735924954I mean, they charged $700 for funsies. People still bought it.
>>735925021That's even worse, isn't it? The Steam Machine could cost as much as a next-gen console but only give last gen performance.
>>735921907They got dynamic pricing nowSo whatever their algorithm determines is the maximum you’ll pay
there hasn't been a Playstation worth buying since the PS2
>>735921640if it launches at 800 does that mean it will cost 1100 by the time the ps7 comes out?
>>735925072Yes. The Steam Machine is cool but it's also based on Linux so the average normalfag isn't going to dualboot Windows to play games that have kernel level anticheat on it either. That being said, it's still a PC so it offers>a much larger catalog of games due to emulation>free games via piracy for the tech savvy>pc exclusives(they still exist)
>>735924867The steam machine is kind of weak for a current gen
>>735921907>gamesWhat games?
>>735925024>13% of 1 year of PS5 sales>13% of total PS4 sales>In-lineThose seem like two very different numbers.
>>735925375Only if the covid lockdowns continue to force governments to spend their way out of the pandemic, and Trump's trade wars continue to disrupt supply chains, and the AI boom continues unabated, and the War in Iran continues for the next few years, and Russia's war in Ukraine spreads to the Baltics, and China invades Taiwan, and Trump takes Greenland in his third term, and the new race to the moon leads to the colonization boom, and the robotics boom begins by 2030, and conquest of Canada begins.
>>735925690What is a trend?
>>735924781the point is PS6 hardware is clearly way more expensive than PS5 Pro's
>>735925098>games you probably like according to your playtime = high>games you probably dont like = low
>>735924852So basically the PS4.
>>735921640PS5 still got no games, why would they release a new console
>>735921694/v/ will jump through any and all hoops to ignore Sony’s greed
>>735923824nigga has fun and money to do this while you sit here like a miserable little faggot not playing games LMAO
>>735921640>The Playstation 6, launchingnot a chance, them raising the cost of the ps5 signals its stay for at least 3 more years, that and the PSSR thing they did recently also alludes to this
>>735924130By taking a 30% cut from developers who can make good games
>>735926457they're doomed...
>>735921640I see the price increase as them delaying next gen. It’s not like they need to produce a large amount if the new one is coming next year, so there wouldn’t be a need to raise prices unless it’s for continued production
>>735926059No, the question is what will the price of the PS6 and PS5 Pro be at the end of 2027? I think the PS5 Pro was overpriced at $700. Now it's $900. I do not think the PS5 Pro is gonna stay at $900. Sony is just milking the fanboys for everything they're worth. But they can't do that at the start of a new generation. If Sony prices the PS6 base model too high, they'll get another PS3 or a Wii U or a Sega Saturn. But then businesses aren't flawless. Maybe they do do something stupid like that. The reasonable thing to do would be to drop the price of the PS5 models once the PS6 launches. How about this? >$700 PS6 home console>$600 PS5 Pro>$550 PS6 Handheld>$500 PS5 SlimAfter 18 months of see that $899 price tag for the PS5 Pro, people will be delighted to grab a PS6 at only $699. Of course, that's assuming nothing else crazy happens between now and then, but maybe China will decide to invade Taiwan right before launch. So, who knows?
>>735921694member how the PS4 Pro launched at the same price the PS4 did
>>735922682Valve has a lower BOM while also having an older chip using Zen 4/RDNA 3. Valve's also using GDDR6 and DDR5 and plan to subsidize this as a PC, not a console. Anyone claiming it's going to be $1000 is borderline retarded and don't know how it works. No matter how you look at it, Sony and Microsoft currently can't price their next gen consoles at $750.
>>735926210Some people like consoles with no games.
>>735926437>not a chance, them raising the cost of the ps5 signals its stay for at least 3 more yearsThat's stupid. That's like saying "OH, SHIT. THE GAMECUBE IS ONLY $50. THAT MEANS THE NEXT NINTENDO CONSOLE WILL ALSO ONLY BE $50." >that and the PSSR thing they did recently also alludes to thisWhat the hell are you talking about?
>>735921640no gaymstation 6
>>735924819Lower BOM and older chip and RAM, idiot. It's going to be $750 to set up a $600 Steam Deck 2 using Zen 6/RDNA 4m, NOT RDNA 5 like all these other retards keep trying to claim unless they want an $800+ Steam Deck 2.
>>735926883>Valve has a lower BOM while also having an older chip using Zen 4/RDNA 3. I don't think you can prove this item by item. >plan to subsidize this as a PC, not a console. They never said this. >Anyone claiming it's going to be $1000 is borderline retarded and don't know how it works. I'm not sure you know how it works since you're pre-emptively attacking people who are gonna challenge your statements. >No matter how you look at it, Sony and Microsoft currently can't price their next gen consoles at $750.They could. Microsoft could. They're a $3 trillion company. Would they? Probably not.
>>735921743The PS5 Pro is $900
>>735923438Why did he think this was a good idea? Is autism that powerful?
>>735927285>I don't think you can prove this item by item.It can be proven as their APU is custom thus they get a deal from AMD for a lower price.>They never said this.They did, keep up with the interviews, Junior.>I'm not sure you know how it works since you're pre-emptively attacking people who are gonna challenge your statements.I'm gonna keep attacking dumb fuck Snoys, Xbots, grifting shills, and ESL third worlders every time they go on their anti-Valve Snoy/Xbot shilling campaigns. Enjoy the death of PlayStation and Xbox next gen.>They could. Microsoft could. They're a $3 trillion company. Would they? Probably not.They can't and they won't, that's why they raised the prices now, you're getting a $900 PS6 and $1200 Xbox Helix whether you like it or not.
>>735927387
>>735921640>$760 just bill of materials>no shipping, warehousing, marketing, nor wholesaler / retailer cut included>$699Sony would lose like $200 - $300 per console if you factor in all those other costs
>>735925936Iran war was over 3 weeks ago trump said.
>>735927489>It can be proven as their APU is custom thus they get a deal from AMD for a lower price.So, what's the price? >They did, keep up with the interviews, Junior.https://www.ign.com/articles/valve-confirms-steam-machine-will-not-be-subsidized-hardware-like-consoles-and-some-are-questioning-that-strategy-while-bracing-themselves-for-a-current-pc-market-price>I'm gonna keep attacking dumb fuck Snoys, Xbots, grifting shills, and ESL third worlders every time they go on their anti-Valve Snoy/Xbot shilling campaigns. Enjoy the death of PlayStation and Xbox next gen.Steam is dominated by the third world users, anon. China is literally the biggest market for Steam. >They can't and they won't, that's why they raised the prices now, you're getting a $900 PS6 and $1200 Xbox Helix whether you like it or not.MS could. It's a $3 trillion company. Sony could. It did so with the PS3. Obviously, that was bad for Sony, so I don't think they will do that again. I don't think we're getting a $900 PS6. We could be getting a $1200 Helix. Xbox has clearly given up on the mass market. I don't think the same is true of Playstation. At least not yet.
>PS5 was $100 more than the PS4 Pro>PS6 will be $1000, confirmed
>>735927980The Switch 2 was 50% more than the Switch 1. Since that was the most recent console launch, you should expect that PS6 to be $1350.
PS3 was $599PS3x2 will be $1198The math is simple
>>735928080Adjusted for inflation, the PS3 is $970.95 in 2026 dollars. So, you're looking at close to $2000 for the PS3x2.
>>735921640>PS6 will be more powerful and cost less than a PS5 doesAnd OP used the exact same source that claimed the Switch 2 would get a $100 price hike: his ass.
>>735928820I don't think that's the same guy. Also, who is not expecting the Switch 2 to get a price hike now?
>>735928820it's wild that the PS5 had TWO price hikes before the Switch 2 even had one.
>>735929273Depending on the market, the PS5 has had even more price hikes.
>>735927728>So, what's the price?$750 baseline>https://www.ign.com/articles/valve-confirms-steam-machine-will-not-be-subsidized-hardware-like-consoles-and-some-are-questioning-that-strategy-while-bracing-themselves-for-a-current-pc-market-price>like consolesAre you retarded?>Steam is dominated by the third world users, anon. China is literally the biggest market for Steam.Jeets are the only ones defending PlayStation and Xbox, m8>MS could. It's a $3 trillion company. Sony could. It did so with the PS3. Obviously, that was bad for Sony, so I don't think they will do that again.They could but they won't, Microsoft won't even really market the Helix, sell it globally, nor even sell it in retailers, that shit will also have third party stores, that shit is going to $1200 without much subsidies at all, especially if paid online is axed.>I don't think we're getting a $900 PS6. We could be getting a $1200 Helix. Xbox has clearly given up on the mass market. I don't think the same is true of Playstation. At least not yet.If Sony is giving us a $900 PS5 Pro, they will give us a $900 PS6, it's meant to be stronger than the Pro, your baseline PS6 will be the PS6 handheld.
>>735928916>"experts">their reasoning is "well, everyone else is doing it."raising the price of the switch 2 so early in its life would kill all momentum for the system.
>>735926920let me guess, half of that came from f2p garbage
>>735930068>halflol the majority of their money comes from gacha, fortnite, and roblox
>>735929981>$750 baselineThat's not what I was asking for. Break down the BOM per item. >Are you retarded?Apparently, citing Valve's own words that they won't subsidize the Steam Machine ain't enough for you. >Jeets are the only ones defending PlayStation and Xbox, m8Yea, but the Chinese are Steam's biggest demographic. They even dominate Valve's biggest games CSGO2 and Dota 2. >They could but they won't, Microsoft won't even really market the Helix, sell it globally, nor even sell it in retailers, that shit will also have third party stores, that shit is going to $1200 without much subsidies at all, especially if paid online is axed.Ah, now they COULD. Before you said they CAN'T. Glad we're making progress. Also, looks like you're only talking about Helix now instead of both Helix and PS6. Sticking to what you can actually prove is a good thing. >If Sony is giving us a $900 PS5 Pro, they will give us a $900 PS6, it's meant to be stronger than the Pro, your baseline PS6 will be the PS6 handheld.They're giving us a $900 PS5 Pro starting next week. They're giving us a PS6 in 18 months. In 18 months, I don't think the PS5 Pro will still be $900. You're logic is sound outside of ignoring the power Sony has to alter the prices of its products.
>>735930024>raising the price of the switch 2 so early in its life would kill all momentum for the system.Seeing as how the momentum may already be slowing down, that could be true. Then again, Nintendo likes making a profit on its consoles. Otherwise, it wouldn't have sold the Switch 2 console at a 40% premium outside of the Japanese market. And it's facing all the same supply chain issues as every other consumer electronic device maker is.
>>735930068Nintendo is the only platform where F2P garbage doesn't reign.
>>735927003Price lowering would mean the next console is coming sooner, a price increase means they're staying with that console for the considerable futureAnd PSSR shows they're still working on PS5 improvements instead of leaving it in maintenance modeIt's not really that hard to understand
>>735930709That's simultaneous players, last time I checked Fortnite was #2 on Switch 2.
>>735930386>That's not what I was asking for. Break down the BOM per item.No need, but the last someone talked about it, it amounted to around $500, it most likely went up, but Valve should still be able to hit $750 as this was never really going to cost around the same price as the Steam Deck. The thing is using dated hardware, come on, anon.>Apparently, citing Valve's own words that they won't subsidize the Steam Machine ain't enough for you.I've said repeatedly that it wasn't getting subsidized like a console.>Yea, but the Chinese are Steam's biggest demographic. They even dominate Valve's biggest games CSGO2 and Dota 2.Who cares, Chinks can't get Steam hardware.>Ah, now they COULD. Before you said they CAN'T. Glad we're making progress. Also, looks like you're only talking about Helix now instead of both Helix and PS6. Sticking to what you can actually prove is a good thing.PS6 will be $900, Xbox Helix will be $1200, neither will be lower in any form.>They're giving us a $900 PS5 Pro starting next week. They're giving us a PS6 in 18 months. In 18 months, I don't think the PS5 Pro will still be $900. You're logic is sound outside of ignoring the power Sony has to alter the prices of its products.If the Pro stays $900, the PS6 will be the same price, but if the Pro goes up again, so will the PS6.
>>735924742They engineered a console, mass produced it and shipped it all over the world. Build massive online infrastructure and became market leader of console gaming.That's doing nothing to you?
is anyone actuially that poor to where a few hundred dollars is going to stop you from thousands and thousands of hours of entertainment?
>>735930638>article that was proven to be speculation
>>735931223you aren't getting that from a PS5, though
>>735930929>Price lowering would mean the next console is coming sooner, a price increase means they're staying with that console for the considerable futureWhen you make a claim, you should be able to back it up. You should be able to answer the question "Why is this the case?" then provide come supporting evidence. Nintendo raised the prices of various products just last year. AFTER the Switch 2 launched. I don't think that means Nintendo is going to unlaunch the NSW2 and stick with the NSW1 for a few more years. https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/nintendo-raises-price-of-switch-hardware-and-switch-2-accessories-in-the-u-s->And PSSR shows they're still working on PS5 improvements instead of leaving it in maintenance modeThis just means they're going to continue supporting the PS5. It doesn't mean the Playstation 6 will not launch soon.
>>735930943Maybe higher.
Imagine being a snoygger lol
>>735930996>No need, but the last someone talked about it, it amounted to around $500, it most likely went up, You say "no need", but then still give me a vague answer. Go find that someone and go find the BOM per item. See how it adds up to $500. Or $750. It ain't that hard. I found it in a single google search. >I've said repeatedly that it wasn't getting subsidized like a console.Sure. And if that's all you said, I'd agree. But you said more. >Who cares, Chinks can't get Steam hardware.But you hate Chinks, right? And every thing their disgusting hands touch, right? >PS6 will be $900, Xbox Helix will be $1200, neither will be lower in any form.I agree on the Helix. It may even be higher. I disagree on the PS6. >If the Pro stays $900, the PS6 will be the same price, but if the Pro goes up again, so will the PS6.Oh, sure. But the Pro may not stay $900. And I don't think it will. Do you think a lot of people will be buying a PS5 Pro for $900 with rumors of the next-gen launch in only 18 months?
>>735931363>Goldman Sachs citing VGChartz>Goldman Sach misspelling VGChartz on an official document
Idc, I have a ps5 but i'm going to the xbox helix next gen. The pic is just because psjeets always accuse me of not really having one after saying i'm switching to xbox. Might as well get it over with now.
>less than the PS5 ProThose people are so retarded that even their predictions are outdated. There is no way they will sell a more powerful, next gen console at a lower price than the current Pro version.PS5 digital will probably be 900$ and the disc version 1000$ while the new Xbox/Pre-build PC is going to be around 1200$
>>735931952>ZYour name is ZackI'm omw to your house now, ez doxx.
>>735931423Sure you are, why not?
>>735931992You're forgetting something, anon. Sony can raise prices and it can also lower them. The PS5 Pro won't still be $900 by the end of 2027.
>>735932010Yes but how many people in the world have the same name as me anon? goodluck.
>>735932060nogaems
I'm willing to bet $10k that it's more than $700. There's absolutely no fucking Snoy Shekelbergstienbaumwitz would charge that "low" after the massive price spike they just lofted on their shiteating fanbase. It'll be $900 bare minimum.
>>735932069just like all the other times they raised the prices, right?
>>735932081Depends on what you care about. For lots of people it’s just an affordable pc replacement that can run every big game they want.
>>735923023Consoles do more than just gaming.
>>735932089>their shiteating fanbaseYou think Snoys will gobble up the PS6 and it'll move tens of millions of units in its first year at $900?
>>735926828That was back when shit actually got cheaper over time, now it's the opposite. You're a certified retard if you think the Ps6 is going to be the same price, or less as the Ps5 Pro currently. It's going to be AT LEAST $900.
>>735921640It will be $900. Now stop complaining and pay up those $1000. You're not some poorfag who can't afford $1200, right?
>>735932182snoys see the PlayStation as a status symbol first and foremost, so yes
>>735932069>Sony can raise prices and it can also lower themHahahaha good luck with that when Ram chips alone is half of the price of those parts>The PS5 Pro won't still be $900 by the end of 2027Holy fucking cope, the AI bubble wont pop until 2030 at earliest. Not to mention the entire industry wants you to get used to prices raising, that's why they push 70-80$ dollar games, with already having talks about more raises in the future
It's going to be $1000 digital only$1.2k for disc drive versionwhich is inane to me, the ps6 isn't going to be a pc/console hybrid so you'll be paying $1k+ to play the same lgbt cinematic walking simulators and superhero sloppah at slightly better res and frames than the ps5. That just seems so not worth.
>>735926786Good for China but also bad for Taiwan
>>735932280To be fair, and i'm not defending snoy but we don't know anything official about the ps6 yet.
>>735932182Absolutely. In third world Yuropia, people spend a month's wage just to show off their epik new Playstation console, whilst living in dirt huts. Think of how many PS5 and PS4s have been sold, considering Bloodborne is the only game released on either system. Snoy would've got out of the gaming business 2 decades ago if third worlders were as smart as the US and Japanese demographics.
>>735931363Not that guy, but no where there are they saying they're not cutting back units. Like all jew speak it's just trying to save face with shareholders
>>735921640we wont make it to the ps6 launch
We are not getting PS6 this decades, all the best trackers watching the data center hyperscalers(Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and Meta, and etc) are saying the demand for AI is going to amp up even more in the following years so Ram, CPU, and storage prices will keep increasing. The demand is getting so out of control for AI that even the special lens used in ASML machines are starting to bottleneck. New consoles ain't coming until 2030+ and at this point you need to start preparing yourself for PS5 pro get priced to 1k+ by next year.
>>735921640so 900-1200, gotcha
>>735932383wdym
>>735921743This post didn't age well
>>735933135prob means because we're on the brink of ww3.
>>735933213Ohhhh right
>>735932127Do you know why they raised the prices? >>735932243>Hahahaha good luck with that when Ram chips alone is half of the price of those partsI expect the AI bubble to never pop as well. >Holy fucking cope, the AI bubble wont pop until 2030 at earliest. Not to mention the entire industry wants you to get used to prices raising, that's why they push 70-80$ dollar games, with already having talks about more raises in the futureWhat makes you think the bubble won't pop until 2030 at the earliest? And they do want you to get used to higher prices. But even Nintendo is backing down from that.
>>735932225Then who's complaining about a $1000 PS6? Certainly not the people who plan on buying them. >>735932361Pretty sure NA and Europe are Playstation's biggest markets.
>>735933367>the bubble won't pop until 2030 at the earliest?Throwing more compute at AI keeps making models better despite every year from like 2020 on skeptics predicted scaling would die and the current AI paradigm would come to an end. And usually when you have two parties making opposite predictions about what to expect in the future you tend to believe the party that gets the more correct predictions are working with a world model that actually corresponds with reality rather than bullshit or some cope belief in their head.
>>735933092I mean, are we still getting new iPhones? Are cars still getting CPUs installed in them? Will you be able to buy a PC next year if you want one? Yea. It'll be more expensive, but it'll still be made and sold. The AI Bubble isn't going to delay the PS6. If it's too expensive, there's an easy solution to that. Make it weaker. The APU can't be changed at this point, but Sony can install less ram or less storage. In essence, shrinkflation for consoles. Or crappier ram like in the Switch 2.
>>735924130And their getting more expensive.
>ram prices will go back to normal once the AI craze endssounds like>gpu prices will go back to normal once the crypto craze ends
>>735934103Even if the effort is to throw more money at the problem, it seems like the people lending the money are getting cold feet. If the money starts to dry up, so will the demand. Not every company is going to succeed in the AI race and it is a bubble. The question is when it will pop, not if. So, 2030? Earlier? Maybe it's popping already. I don't know when it will happen, but just because RAM is super expensive, doesn't mean Sony has to shove a lot of it into a PS6. There is a price point at which people will stop buying video game consoles. It wasn't $450 for the Switch 2. It doesn't seem to be $750 for the PS5 Pro. Will it be $900 for the PS5 Pro? I don't know. I'll be shocked if the PS5 Pro continues to sell in-line with the PS4 Pro at that price point. But if it does...shit. People are okay spending $900 on a PS5 Pro? I guess that's where the market is then.
>>735934423You don't need a GPU that can play AAA games at 4k or at 360fps. That's on you.
>>735934116It's not just the cost of parts, but availability and spec. Memory speed and nand yield is more important than ever. Moreso since the ps5 is built on nvme speed and cache. You can't go cheap on that. At worst we won't see a ps6 for another 3 years. Best case in like 2
>>735935602Putting aside the fact that the longest a console gen has ever lasted is 8 years (Xbox 360/Switch 1) and that the average console cycle in the past 2 decades is closer to 6 than 7, what you're asking for is a 2-3 year delay for a potential savings on RAM and storage that may never come since we don't know when the AI bubble will burst. The easiest solution is shrinkflation. A PS6 certainly doesn't need 2TB of storage of 40GB of GDDR7 RAM. The PS6 gets pushed out at a price point the market can accept and anyone complaining the machine is too weak will still get it and then get the PS6 Pro and then get the PS7 as well, because they have too much money than they know what to do with.
More price hikes than games.
>>735935921>certainly doesn't need 2TB of storageLike hell it doesn't the games are like 100 GB each
>>735936925If you need more storage in your PS6 for your 100GB games, I'm sure Sony will be happy to sell you that storage separately. Me? I'm just going to delete the game file after I'm done with it.
>>735921701The new mid-tier PC is around $1500. What's your point?
>>735932225They are going to come into the next gen with the arrogance they had after the PS2 gen minus the public goodwill the PS2 gen gave them. I can see Sony charging 1k+ for the PS6 and being smug about it like they think they're doing the public a favor.
>>735921640that's for the basic version with no storage, no ram and no controller
>>735926786>The reasonable thing to do would be to drop the price of the PS5 models once the PS6 launches. How about this?I've heard rest of Sony is tired of SIE's nonsense and wasting tons of money on flops like Concord so they're not gonna accept SIE taking tons of losses on hardware. PS6 might not have any kind of subsidy, it'll be sold at profit and if things get worse they'll simply increase the price again
>>735931753>You say "no need", but then still give me a vague answer. Go find that someone and go find the BOM per item. See how it adds up to $500. Or $750. It ain't that hard. I found it in a single google search.$425-$600 is the BOM of the Steam Machine, it's not even going to come close to the high prices of the PS6 and Xbox Helix.>Sure. And if that's all you said, I'd agree. But you said more.I said what was needed to be said, Valve stated it's going to be priced like an entry-level gaming PC.>But you hate Chinks, right? And every thing their disgusting hands touch, right?I don't give a shit about anything outside my country, sorry.>I agree on the Helix. It may even be higher. I disagree on the PS6.Then you're an idiot>Oh, sure. But the Pro may not stay $900. And I don't think it will.Cope>Do you think a lot of people will be buying a PS5 Pro for $900 with rumors of the next-gen launch in only 18 months?People will have the choice of Switch 2 and Steam hardware, if they refuse either, they can simply leave gaming for good because it means they were never really gamers to begin with.
>>735939637>$425-$600 is the BOM of the Steam Machine, it's not even going to come close to the high prices of the PS6 and Xbox Helix.I would hope not. A PC that performs only as well as a current gen console shouldn't cost that much. Then again, PCs kind of have to make a sizable profit per unit. A console with a BOM of $400-$600 would probably sell between $400 and $600. A PC wouldn't. But that's of course if the BOM price you're citing is correct, but then you won't cite it. You just keep referencing it without citing it as if you're afraid of revealing the actual source. >I said what was needed to be said, Valve stated it's going to be priced like an entry-level gaming PC.And what is the price and spec of an entry level gaming PC?>I don't give a shit about anything outside my country, sorry.And which country is your country?>Then you're an idiotGonna have to disagree with you again. >CopeStarting to resort to buzzwords, huh?>People will have the choice of Switch 2 and Steam hardware, if they refuse either, they can simply leave gaming for good because it means they were never really gamers to begin with.Dodging my question. I didn't ask if people had other choices. I ask if a lot of people will be buying PS5 Pros at $900 with rumors of a PS6 only 18 months away. And since you dodged the question, I assume you will continue to avoid answering it. In which case, I'll answer it: I hope not. Because if people still buy PS5 Pros at $900, then that's a sure sign the PS6 will be priced at $1000. Because why would Sony worry about pricing the PS6 too high if people keep scooping up Playstations at increasingly higher prices? But that may be good news for Nintendo and Valve as a $900 PS5 Pro selling well may signal the market would be willing to accept a price hike on the Switch 2 and a higher price point on the Steam Machine. Because they'll both be dealing with the same supply chain disruptions Sony is dealing with and like the extra profits.
>>735939248The PS6 doesn't have to take a ton of losses on hardware. It can just take a little bit of losses on hardware. Say, $100. As long as the PS6 buyer grabs a game, or extra controller or PS+ subscription, that almost makes up for the subsidy. And if they don't mind jacking up prices, then they could just set the price lower at first then jack it up later. If they were afraid of jacking up prices, they would start with a higher price, to avoid jacking it up later.
>>735940905>It can just take a little bit of losses on hardware. Say, $100$100 isn't a little. If I'm right there will be $0 subsidy for PS6 and the handheld. Consumer pays for everything.
>>735940971>$100 isn't a little.What would be a little to you and what would be a lot? I think $100 for a $700 console is not a lot. An example of "a lot" would be the launch PS3s which were sold at around a $300 loss per console or about $500 adjusted for inflation.
>>735921694Pro is for enthusiasts and only sells 10% of total sales. It will also be discontinued next year, just like PS4 Pro was.PS6 will be 800 bucks maximum.
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>>735940801>I would hope not. A PC that performs only as well as a current gen console shouldn't cost that much. Then again, PCs kind of have to make a sizable profit per unit. A console with a BOM of $400-$600 would probably sell between $400 and $600. A PC wouldn't. But that's of course if the BOM price you're citing is correct, but then you won't cite it. You just keep referencing it without citing it as if you're afraid of revealing the actual source.PS5 is $600 and $650, Xbox Series X is $600, $650, and $800, be happy you got that, hell, Steam Machine may end up being in the $600 range.>And what is the price and spec of an entry level gaming PC?$600-$750>And which country is your country?USA>Gonna have to disagree with you again.Sony isn't your friend>Starting to resort to buzzwords, huh?If Sony is willing to price the PS5 Pro at $900, they're willing to do the same or worse to the PS6.>In which case, I'll answer it: I hope not. Because if people still buy PS5 Pros at $900, then that's a sure sign the PS6 will be priced at $1000. Because why would Sony worry about pricing the PS6 too high if people keep scooping up Playstations at increasingly higher prices?Most people will skip the PlayStation altogether because of the price hike.>But that may be good news for Nintendo and ValveIt's good news for them because it proved them right, people want weak affordable hardware that can just play games.
>>735926275>nigga has funI doubt it
still no games so what is the point of releasing a new game console
>>735924190>Instead they'll strip standardized featuresThey can't strip anything except maybe the drive. What would they strip? Anything else would interfere with their ability to drain the users wallet.
I've reached that stage where I don't want any new console at all. I don't want a Switch 2, I don't want a PS6, and I barely have enough free time to play the games I already have and want to start already. I'm just going to stick to what I already own and will take good care of my electronics.
>>735921694Fpbp>>735921640Kill yourself and buy an ad
>>735941210>it came to me in a dream
>>735923274Don't worry, nothing will change, you will be mostly herded together with other brown goys since players who play with mouse would instantly outskill you.
>>735921907games?
>>735926828>>735932191>member how the PS4 Pro launched at the same price the PS4 didYes, but in that same year, 2016, the price of the PS4 dropped to $300 with the launch of the PS4 SlimSo the PS4 Pro launched at a price $100 higher than the base PS4>PS4 Slim - Sep 2016 - $299>PS4 Pro - Nov 2016 - $399
>>735932182People don't want to admit it, because tendies are easier to laugh at with their kiddy games, but Sony has the strongest brand loyalty in the industry.
>>735922000>roughly the same as Steam salesThe thing is, the discounts are bigger, and they aren't dynamic like on the PS Store. Plus, there are key retailers like GMG or Fanatical that often have more aggressive deals, whereas with the PS Store, you're limited to that digital store>>735923128>Bloodborne, Demon's Souls remake, Astro Bot, Ghost of Yotei, Gran Turismo 7I think you're exactly the kind of user Sony wants for its exclusivesDon’t worry, many of us here are happy with Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, Spider-Man 1, Miles Morales 1 and 2, TLOU Part 1 and 2, Helldivers 2, God of War 1 and Ragnarok, Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West, Stellar Blade, Tsushima, Days Gone, Tokkon, Returnal, Death Stranding 2https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/playstationstudios/You’ll have other new games like Saros, Wolverine, and Intergalactic to keep you entertainedSony will see what its mistake was in the future, just for the sake of protecting its image. PC gamers are patient, you guys can keep desperately buying their games on launch day, that’s exactly what Sony wants you to do
>>735924564>Fortnite and GenshinYou can play those games on old consoles and phonesYou don't need a PS5 to play those games
>>735949415Genshin is removing PS4 support and those games are worse on phone due to the control schemes so people do prefer to use a controller(or mouse/keyboard on PC).
>>735921640if we were to judge what will happen by what already transpired in recent history, then it's safe to asume sony will keep copying microsoft in every stupid, retarded, anticonsumer thing pajeets decide to try. meaning ps6 will also be an expensive as fuck hybridbox, but instead windows it will come with linux.
>>735941120Today subsidy would be pretty dangerous because even a $70 subsidy means if 10 million people get 1 for Fortnite and never get anything Sony takes $70 x 10 million. Plenty of people got enough stuff they want already and shit like vbucks increases can cause people to boycott.>An example of "a lot" would be the launch PS3s which were sold at around a $300 loss per console or about $500 adjusted for inflationNah that was always an insane absurd amount. Sony gutted the PS3 as much as they could to survive
>>735921640BOM means jack shit. There’s also manufacturing, packaging and shipping across the world.BOM of $760 means $900 for an actual unit>>735921694Copeler is a Snoy and has been trying to damage control all this time
>>735932172such as?
>>735932172OH NO NO NODONT TELL ME CONSOLEFAGS ARE GOING BACK TO THE "B-B-BUT Y-YOU CAN WATCH TV!!!" ARGUMENT!?!?!?LELEL
>>735926114>This will elad to idiots buying games in a genre they hate in order to fuck with their buying ELO to get better discounts on games they do wantThe future is retarded and 'gamers' are the worst market slice in the universe, we deserve this.
>>735951612Anyone serious about gaming on phones has a Bluetooth controller attachment
>>735921640no one can predict the price of next-generation consoles with the current marked volatility. even valve can't decide on the gabecube pricing and that's supposed to be imminent. don't bother guessing
>>735921640You have to be retarded to believe thatThe ps5 adoption was slow and it took them forever to stop being cross gen The ps6 is a smaller jump than ever and it will be used for the same f2p multplats that the ps5 was used forThere is zero reason for sony to subsidise it that hard when they're not willing to do that with their current consoles and the production costs of games and hardware are getting more expensive
>>735953905For gachas? Not really.
>>735923987I liked the PS1 longboxes, wish they kept them. Saturn has them and I like the Saturn. Though they are very fucking fragile.
>>735923438>and everyone clappedman, that place must be autism central. AND I bet it stank like shit. I do find autistic asians kind of adorable, though
>>735924720what's that one disc format only the OG ps3 can play? Not talking about PS2 games
>>735921640that's the production cost
>>735954074they're betting big on gta6 hype. there's at least 20 million or more normies who don't have a gaming PC nor console but will want to play gta6 because it will be the biggest game release in history and it won't be available on PC. even your grandma will want to play it. sony might even push the price over $1000 later on.
I have a sociopathic question.If I >bought a PS5>emptied the box>filled it with some weights to make it about the weight of a filled PS5 box>bought the most venomous rattlesnake that can be legally owned as a pet>put him in the box>walk through the ghetto>get robbed by someone thinking it was a PS5>they open the box and are killed by my snakeIs that legally my fault? Nothing I did compelled them to steal my snake from me.
>>735955891>not leaving some nice snacks for the snakefuck's wrong with you, dude
>>735921640Here's moore's law is dead's PS6 BOM from august last year.
>>735956258>likely>$399 for the handheld>$549-699 for PS6Hilarious that bozo thought this was ever possible. I doubt we'll even see the PS handheld ever now, the chances of it flopping increases every time third party games are announced for Switch 2. In a way it looks like PS5 will be their last successful console. I guess they could either rebuild PS6 or gut it as much as possible to bring the price down but any hardcore gamer will know the hardware is shit and thus won't buy it for that reason
>>735924819>But in that case, the PS6 would be cheaper too.If Snoys but the PS5 and Pro at these prices, why should Sony sell the PS6 at 500?
>>735928916>expert says the SW2 price will go up>article gets spammed everywhere>PS5 goes up insteadlmao, God is a tendie.
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>>735956872I'm expecting a price increase but I'm not gonna say it's soon or anything though.I don't think they can offset it with another Swtich 1 and Switch 1 accessories price hike in the US but they can probably do it to everywhere else that avoided the first one.So basically everywhere not called the US.
>>735956258>last year>before Open AI buying up a ton of RAM>it's BOM is still higher than the PS5APU and RAM would drive it up to the PS5 Pro price range.
>>735944621>Most people will skip the PlayStation altogether because of the price hikeDidn't stop the PS3 which was as expensive as the Pro will be and its early years were during a worse economic period.
>>735957036I don't think there is going to be a price increase. Nintendo wouldn't be reducing the price of digital titles otherwise.
>>735956258>Sony's main goal is to keep next-gen pricing reasonableHilarious to read now with all the current gen price hikes.
>>735957036>>735957360The only price increase I can see from Nintendo would be their online service. >announce DS Online>show off how rotating the console and using mouse controls can emulate the DS>btw $10 increase lol
>>735930638>Seeing as how the momentum may already be slowing downMochizuki already got bitchslapped by people who actually know how Switch 2 is performing
>>735958143YAMERU!!!
>>735944621>PS5 is $600 and $650, Xbox Series X is $600, $650, and $800, be happy you got that, hell, Steam Machine may end up being in the $600 range.Still not citing that BOM source. And no one serious is expecting the Steam machine to retail for $600, because that's not what an entry level gaming PC costs. >$600-$750There were two parts to the question I asked. You only answered the first part. The second part is important, as listing the specs of a gaming PC that retails for $600 will show it's no where near as strong as the Steam Machine claims to be. >USABeing a citizen and resident of the USA, and being someone who does not care about anything outside the US, do you care that the Switch 2 sells for almost a $100 less in Japan? >Sony isn't your friendIt sure isn't, but I haven't been friendly to Sony. I've been even handed to all the major players we're talking about. It seems to me you're the one with friends here with who you're shielding from criticism. >If Sony is willing to price the PS5 Pro at $900, they're willing to do the same or worse to the PS6.Nintendo was willing to price the 3DS at $250. Sony was willing to price the PS3 at $499/$599. It didn't work out well for them. Consumers responded and they dropped the prices ASAP. More recently, Nintendo was willing to price the physical version of Mario Kart World at $80. They've yet to price any other game that high and are now offering cheaper digital versions of games in the US market. Consumers can and do vote with their wallet and I do not see a $900 PS5 Pro selling well. Not at all. But I could be wrong. I hope I'm not. Part 1/2
>>735944621>Most people will skip the PlayStation altogether because of the price hike.That hasn't stopped people yet. Both the PS5 and NSW1 rarely saw a price drop since launch, which is typical in the latter half of a console cycle. They both still sold well. The NSW1 exceptionally well. Consumers were not dissuaded by the historically higher hardware prices. I'm not sure they'd start now, especially with GTA VI around the corner. But they might. The base PS5 being $100 more expensive than at launch isn't the biggest jump in the world with everything that's happened over the past 6 years, but it's possible consumers will start "skipping", as you say. But if they were thinking about spending $500 to buy a PS5 just to play GTA VI, I don't think abother $100 will break the bank for them. >It's good news for them because it proved them right, people want weak affordable hardware that can just play games.Well, it hasn't proven Valve right. The Steam Deck isn't exactly weak and affordable. It also hasn't sold particularly well. It hasn't even hit Vita numbers an those were so bad it killed Playstation's handheld line. And the Steam Machine hasn't released yet. That also wasn't true of the Wii U or 3DS. Unless you wanna say both weren't either weak or affordable at the time. There were a lot of people who complained the Switch 2 was too expensive before launch, but it's sold just fine. For the past 9 months, A Switch 2 was only $50 cheaper than a discless PS5 Slim. Not exactly affordable. Is it weak? Well, RE Requiem seems to run really well on it. Doesn't have all the bells and whistles on it like the home console/PC versions, but it's not all that weak. Although with the upcoming PS price hikes, $450 sure does seem affordable. I guess you can thank the $900 PS5 Pro for that. Here are the winners of each of their respective generations:>SNES>PS1>PS2>Wii>PS4>NSWI don't think you can say they were all affordable or weak.
>>735945234There is no point, but like with the nogaems PS5, PS4 and PS3, people keep buying the damn things.
>haha pc poors are being priced out, buy a console, its cheaperNow>WHO CARES IF CONSOLES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, STOP BEING POOR
>>735923824I actually envy this dude. He has a lot of money and confidence to do that shit.
>>735921640I'll buy it 2-3 years after it launches only if it has at least 5 exclusives. Something tells me that won't happen, so I won't buy it. The PS5 burned me pretty bad.
>>735955891to cover your ass you need to be sure to say stuff like "you don't want to do this!" and "It isn't what you think!"
>>735952772>Today subsidy would be pretty dangerous because even a $70 subsidy means if 10 million people get 1 for Fortnite and never get anything Sony takes $70 x 10 million. Plenty of people got enough stuff they want already and shit like vbucks increases can cause people to boycott.Here's the scenario you're laying out:>10M people buy a $700 PS6 just to play Fortnite, and only Fortnite, and never spend a dime in the gameThat sounds silly to me. I mean, putting aside the fact that Epic raised vbuck prices and Fortnite is dying, these people play and spend money on Fortnite. It's not like they have standards or principles. No one's "boycotting" anything. They're gonna just lose some customers while milking other customers harder. >Nah that was always an insane absurd amount. Sony gutted the PS3 as much as they could to surviveYea, it was. It was "a lot". A "little" subsidy would be $70. Go look at how much of a loss the PS4 or PS5 hardware took at launch. A 10% of the total cost wouldn't be a big subsidy, especially if the buyer is expected to buy at least one game or an extra controller or a PS+ subscription or any of that stuff. People don't just buy a brand new console and nothing else. Even the Switch 2 was mostly sold as a bundle with a Mario Kart World.
>>735922035>"The PS5 Pro is under $700, anon.">Gets proven wrong >"T-thats not what I said!"
>>735952984>BOM means jack shit. There’s also manufacturing, packaging and shipping across the world.>BOM of $760 means $900 for an actual unitThat's not how it worked for past consoles. https://electronics360.globalspec.com/article/3781/exclusive-video-teardown-sony-close-to-breakeven-on-ps4?cid=nl
>>735921640>ps6But the ps5 still doesn’t even have any fucking games. What a farse consoles are.
>>735923824>6 months later> he’s destitute and sucking mobs for cash in that suite because Nintendo sued him for emulating on pc.
>>735961010that's like one of the tiniest flat houses I've seen in the US, like sub 100k tierhe has money, but not much and doesn't know how to spend it well
>>735921640>The Playstation 6, launching in 18 monthsSo what was even the point of the ps5? What even remains?
>he has a melty just by talking about Sony now
>>735958091Nah I can't see nintendo every touching the NSO price. Raising that even a little bit would make people lose their shit. Especially for people who pay for pokemon jail. I mean home.
>>735961265You’re proving yourself wrong. $372 PS4 was priced at $399. And that was after Sony waited for Xbox to announce their $499 price to undercut them.$760 BOM PS6 certainly won’t be sold at $699.
>>735961143>That sounds silly to meIt's not, really. Think about 20 million Sony fanboys and they got massive collections. They buy PS6 at launch at the cheapest price and then dip. You see all those comments all the time saying they're done. If Sony subsidizes PS6 it's actually a dangerous move that could lead to billions in losses.
>>735954074>The ps5 adoption was slowNot really.https://www.vgchartz.com/article/467095/ps5-vs-ps4-sales-comparison-january-2026/>and it took them forever to stop being cross genI mean, CoD 2025 released on the PS4. The PS4 is still getting ports of games. It's still getting cross-gen games. But what does the support of cross-gen games even matter to the adoption of console hardware that is primarily used to play third-party, multiplatform titles? >The ps6 is a smaller jump than ever and it will be used for the same f2p multplats that the ps5 was used forWhich turned out fine for the PS5 and which works out well for Steam. >There is zero reason for sony to subsidise it that hard when they're not willing to do that with their current consoles and the production costs of games and hardware are getting more expensiveA $100 or 15% subsidy doesn't seem like Sony going "hard" at it, but you're right about the rise in costs associated with both hardware and software. That's why the PS6's cheapest home console version may end up being 75% or $300 more expensive than the PS5's cheapest version.
>>735956565Do you think "hardcore gamers" are buying PS5s or NSW 1/2? They sold well despite complaints from hardcore gamers.
>>735962514Lots of hardcore gamers thought PS5 was gonna be like PS4, they didn't see the signs of PC ports and live service slop
>>735956941Have you ever tried to look up the source of images you see on the internet? https://x.com/6d6f636869https://x.com/NintendoCoLtd
>>735958143Mat's not wrong, but only a fanboy would use that data point instead of this one. https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-acknowledges-switch-2-sales-have-been-slightly-weaker-than-expected-outside-japanhttps://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2026/260204.pdf
>>735961252I didn't say that. I pointed out that prices can go up...and go down. That's what "dynamic" means.
>>735961360>But the ps5 still doesn’t even have any fucking games. What a farse consoles are.And it's still selling. After 3 generations of no gaems Playstation consoles, shouldn't you have accepted this reality by now?
>>735961747>So what was even the point of the ps5?Money.
>>735962002It depends how the market reacts to $599 PS5 and $899 PS5 Pro. If consumers react poorly to them, it'll make Sony reconsider pricing the PS6 high. If, on the other hand, consumers continue to buy PS5/PS5 Pros at those prices...well...
>>735962032Hold on. You think the idea of 10 million Fortnite fans spending $700 on a PS6 and then NEVER spending a dime on Fortnite does not sound silly? Really? >Think about 20 million Sony fanboys and they got massive collections. They buy PS6 at launch at the cheapest price and then dip. You see all those comments all the time saying they're done. If Sony subsidizes PS6 it's actually a dangerous move that could lead to billions in losses.Now you're painting a second scenario where 20 million people buy $700 PS6 JUST to play their backward compatible catalogue? No new games? No new spending? Well, you're just full of silly ideas. Why wouldn't those 20M Sony fanboys just stick with their PS5s or PS4s for their BC collections? Why spend $700 for a new console when their existing console already plays everything they want to play? As for "comments", I saw a lot of comments complaining about the Switch 2's price. Didn't mean shit. NSW2 still broke records. https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendos-switch-2-treehouse-livestream-is-just-a-flood-of-angry-comments-shouting-drop-the-price
>>735963480How did a system that had no point make so much money though?
>>735962671So, you're telling me that "hardcore gamers" bought the PS4 for hardcore, exclusive, single-player, cinematic, AAA games like Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Spider-Man and TLoU 2, that they were happy with them and that they wanted more of that on the PS5?
>>735923987You really need to get Armored Core 2 Another Age. Fucking goat.
>>735963965The ns2 price actually was dropped significantly in europe. But in europe it was initially disproportionally expensive.
>>735963992The Microtranaction or MTX.
>>735924130I think they'd rather just not have a new console, rather than subsidize a new one. Their profit margins are way too thin to throw money around like that.
>>735965659You think Sony is just not going to launch a PS6?
>>735963480>operating incomelol, lmao even
>>735965750I think they are going to wait for hardware prices to come down before launching something new, yes. Not like Microsoft is going to put any real pressure on them.
>>735965832Yea?
>>735941210More like 800 bucks minimum LOL
>>735921640That‘d be lower than I thought and still too high
>>735948927cool, anyways, back to shit that isnt 10 years ago
>>735937720That buying a PC is still a better choice
>>735921640800 usd means 900€ which is insane considering the euro is stronger than the usd atm. I dont know why but they love pulling this "trick"
>>735965852There's no guarantee hardware prices will come down anytime soon. Maybe they stay up indefinitely. If they wait, maybe some new crisis erupts that makes things worse for them.
>>735963965>No new games? No new spending?Does this really fucking surprise you? It's exactly what many have said for years now unless PS5 is their last console. If you have hundreds of games I honestly respect their choice, make Sony lose money and get free updates to your games. That's smart.
What about the games?
>>735968026It doesn't surprise me, because it hasn't happened. You're predicting it will. People "saying" things isn't the same thing as people "doing" things. And they're not giving Sony money in exchange for PS5s, then not spending a dime on anything else afterwards. Again, WHY would anyone spend $500+ to buy a new Playstation console, assuming they have the predecessor, JUST to play games they already have? Just to screw Sony? Because the best way to screw Sony would be to not give them any more money.
>>735963965>As for "comments", I saw a lot of comments complaining about the Switch 2's price. Didn't mean shit. NSW2 still broke records.Why are you pretending Nintendo and Sony are in the same situation? They couldn't be any more different than right now
>>735968653I'm not pretending they're in the same situation. I'm referencing this event where a lot of negative "comments" were being made about the price of the NSW2. https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendos-switch-2-treehouse-livestream-is-just-a-flood-of-angry-comments-shouting-drop-the-priceAnd yet the NSW2 has sold very, very, very well. So, I don't care about people's "comments". I care about what they do. I'm waiting to see how people vote with their wallets. I'm not interested in the unscientific chatroom polling.
>>735921907Games are gonna shoot up to $100 minimum
>>735969276Nintendo is already backing down from $80.
>>735968850Yeah because Nintendo has permanent exclusives and have managed to sell their consoles with their own games. And now they have third party support. Sony is in the extreme other end of the situation, they ported their games to PC and more people have been moving to PC and left Playstation.
>>735969879Yea, none of that post has anything to do with how social media commentary can inaccurately reflect actual consumer behavior.
>>735970041We're already seen PS5 is behind PS4 2 million. People have left PS already.
>>735970272Okay, now where's the social media commentary reflected by that 2M deficit? Because, again, I have a perfectly good example right here that you keep on ignoring for the sake of your fanboying. >chatroom flood with complaints about NSW2 price near launch >NSW2 goes on to move almost 20M units in 9 monthshttps://www.ign.com/articles/nintendos-switch-2-treehouse-livestream-is-just-a-flood-of-angry-comments-shouting-drop-the-price
>>735964186No it wasn't, they haven't touched the price here.
>>735969732So Winds and Waves will be the same price as Yoshi?
>>735969879Sony put some games on PC but it barely made shit so people clearly aren't jumping to PC in the capacity that you believe. It was like 2b over the course of 3 years and they make 31b in revenue yearly
>>735970875Maybe digitally.
>>735921640Aren't they selling the PS5 for more than that right now?
If it's more than 600 I'll just go to PC. Only way I'd pay 700 and up is of we could mod our games like PC.
>>735970693In germany it has dropped around five to ten percent. But in places like sweden it dropped around 20 to 30%. And in a lot of surrounding countries the price has been dropping somewhere in-between these ranges.
>>735971327>600 dollar PCbahaha
>>735971317No.
>>735971313quite bold. a high demand mainline Pokemon? shit, no way its less than 69.99 digitally in this economy
>>735971426Sorry, the price hike happens on April 4th. But that will still put PS5s on the same price point or higher.
>>735921640>now that xbox is not direct competition anymorexbox haven't been a direct competitor for like a decade now, you can't pull that "don't expect it" card forever
>>735971573No, it wouldn't.
>nyes, well, you shee...the Piess shixs will be ASHUTALLY much cheeper than a Piess faiveh, IF shu account inflashion.I know there will always be a retard thats like this.
>>735971683Yes it would, snoy
>>735971748PS5 at most will be 649
>>735971748Feel free to post the new PS5 prices.
>>735971871>>735971769Fair enough, I made the claim, I'm the one who needs to back it up:>In the U.S, the PS5 disc edition will jump from $549.99 to $649.99, a $100 increase from the last time Sony hiked prices of the console last year. The digital edition of the device will also rise $100 to $599.99. The PS5 Pro, Sony’s most powerful version of the console, gets a $150 hike to $899.99. https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/27/sony-playstation-5-ps5-price-rise.html$900 for the PS5 Pro. Maybe the price will go down in the next 18 months, but that's where it's heading right now.
>>735972059The PS5 Pro is gonna sell terribly at that price point. They'll drop the price after GTA VI launches and they've scammed enough high income earners with it.
>>735972196Are you doubting what normies are willing to pay to experience the best version of GTA 6 at release?
Anyone who thinks ps6 will he less than a ps5 pro is batshit insane. Do people really think they can magically make a more powerful console for cheaper? Hell, they JUST raised the price so we know they don't have a whole lot of wiggle room here
>>735921640>Ps6huh? what for? people didnt even buy ps5
>>735972268Yea, I think 90% of potential GTA VI buyers that are going to pick up a PS5 just for that game will opt for the cheaper or used version. That leaves 10% that will pick up the PS5 Pro which will be a 25% decline in sales compared to where the PS5 Pro is currently trending in sales.
>>735972404>Hell, they JUST raised the price so we know they don't have a whole lot of wiggle room hereUnless Sony is profiteering with the PS5 Pro.
>>735952772The people buying a PS6 day one are the ones most likely to buy the most games and be subbed to PSN the longest.
>>735972614There's a reason why Sony's closing studios and shit, people aren't buying their games.
>>735970639It's well known Sony and Microsoft uses paid shills.
>>735972493Who is going to be selling their PS5 when that game comes out?
>>735972695So, what you're saying, is SIE is losing money/profit?
>>735961130Wont they ask him why he put weights and the snake in the box?
>>735970639>no "drop the price" spam in official playstation social media replies/commentsCurious!
>>735972758And Nintendo doesn't?
>>735972695They make money off all games and DLC sold on PlayStation idiot. 30% of Fortnite and Roblox DLC basically pays for all their first party games.It doesn't make sense to keep making live service flops and PC ports. So the studios who made those got fired.
>>735972796Any of the 50M PS5 owners that won't be getting GTA VI at launch and need the money?
>>735972829Playstation didn't hold a Treehouse livestream right after announcing the price hike. Also, 90M PS5 units have already been sold. A lot of people already have one.
>>735972998Consumers generally buy new though. It's going to drive a lot of PS5 sales.
>>735972927I've honestly never seen media talk positively about Nintendo ever. Before NS2 I saw them say nobody was hyped for Switch 2 and a new Mario Kart like it was some fucking indie game>>735972981I could see stopping PC ports backfiring hard if PS6 is simply too costly so nobody but the PS fanboys buys it.
>>735973286Sure, but there will be used PS5s on sale and there are poor people who want to play GTA VI on PS5.
>>735973350>I've honestly never seen media talk positively about Nintendo ever.
>>735973369Do you think they are going to be of low value when GTA 6 comes out lmao new or used
>>735973418Nice gif, retard. Even with the price hike you can go to IGN twitter right now and see they're pushing fake Nintendo news to lessen the blow for Sony.
>>735973520Yea, generally speaking, used items are priced lower than new items cause they're used.
>>735973554>I've honestly never seen media talk positively about Nintendo ever.
>>735921640>retard thinks Sony is going to take over $60 loss on every console soldLMAO. PS6 will cost like $900 if ram and ssd prices don't come down by the time they start production on the console. There will also be a version with higher capacity ssd that's like $1100
>>735973849>if ram and ssd prices don't come down by the time they start production on the consoleWhat makes you think those prices may come down?
>>735973849Sony was taking a loss on PS5 for around 8 months to begin with. They are known to subsidize
>>735972927They stopped around 5 years ago and media have been ragging on them ever since.
>>735973876There is no such a thing as unlimited demand for servers to run AI. I'm also predicting some of the companies to drop out of the AI development race and AI gets consolidated to a few companies who can figure out how to make money by providing AI services. All the ones who drop out are likely to sell their server farms to the remaining ones, reducing demand for AI server hardwareNow when this happens is the question all the stockbros would love to know the answer to>>735973918They have no competition in the console market now that Microslop went full retard with Xbox
>>735973963Are you saying the video game news media only says positive things about game companies that pay them?
>>735974129Botw and totk are masterpieces, keep malding
>>735974116Yea, if the AI bubble pops soon, prices for things like video game consoles could come back down.
>>735974230*until you play Elden Ring
>>735921640>Playstation 6lol
>>735974230They are masterpieces...unless Nintendo paid for reviewers to call them masterpieces.
>>735974258Elden Ring is great too
>>735921640Delusional. I bet it would cost over $1599.99. Probably only digital. The $259.99 USB only - disc player sold separately. PS Plus - $300 per year. Zero game lol
>>735974336Weren't people saying PS5 would cost 1200 when it released too?
>>735974336Too low. I'm guessing $2299.99. Disc player at $489.99 and PS Plus at $500 per year.
>>735921640how does this affect you
>>735974396Plausible
>>735923987ikr muh bruhhh
>>735924130$500 annually for PS Plus
>>735974628>black man with the black man hair brushKINO
>>735974675You might be joking, but Sony is planning on having one subscription service for music, Crunchyroll, Playstation, etc. $500 PS+ can happen.
There is no point in releasing a new console unless they can get it under $600, so don't expect a new console until 2030 at MINIMUM.
>>735970992If they release games on multiple platforms at the same time, they will make more money.
>>735975364They aren't ending live service on PC, just single player titles to strengthen the ecosystem.
>>735975168I think they'll push one out in 2027 over $600 and people will eat it up.
It's really over for poorfags
>>735975434Not enough. They need to release all games to get more money quickly. >MUH ECOSYSTEMwho the fuck gives a shit about it? The shareholders and normies don't.
>>735975547Problem is PC wasn't even remotely a large source of income for PS especially factoring in pirates and shit. They made 2b over 3 years in revenue from PC and they make 31b in revenue yearly alone on their own ecosystem
>>735975526They don't need to upgrade if all they play is Roblox and Fortnite.
>>735975547>Not enough. They need to release all games to get more money quickly.Didn't help Xbox. Steam isn't putting its exclusives on other platforms. And Nintendo does great with exclusives.
>>735975662Nah, delaying the release of games always hurts revenue. PC gamers won’t tolerate being treated like second-class citizens, so they’ll just wait longer and buy those games at the deepest discounts. Other publishers, including Xbox, understand this clearly, so they make more money than Sony.
>>735975806Xbox realized that getting out of the console mindset is more lucrative.
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>>735975949Sony didn't want to destroy their hardware sales though. They have to keep a reason around for people to buy into their ecosystem.
>No games for PS5>Ps6 will have negative games
>>735976114>ecosystemWas never a thing until this gen. "Ecosystem" in the context of gaming sounds jewish by nature.
>>735977134The ecosystem is why they wrecked Xbox though
>>735972823>nigger>asking questionscome on, anon.
>>735921640If you die in special Iran operation your family gets a $50 off voucher though
>>735923824>>735923438mindbroken :skullface:
>>735977419Xbox wrecked itself.
>>735981354Yeah, PlayStation had a stronger ecosystem and Xbox had nothing almost. PlayStation didn’t even have to try that hard, just a little more than whatever Xbox was up to
>>735969732Yeah but snoys will eat that shit up.
I remember arguing with someone here years ago about FF7R, saying that SE clearly didn't intend to remake the whole game and now that they've decided to do it that we would be lucky to see the last part come out before the PS6 released.I was wrong, but I was close.
>>735921907$39 a month
The second vidya game industry crash is here. When the next consoles launch, it will finally be over.
>raise prices for the current console>this will surely make people buy the new one that we're soon gonna release bravo nolan
>>735977535So you iz sayin niggaz don ask questions? Sheeeeeeeeit.
>>735921907LOL!
>>735921640>The Playstation 6, launching in 18 monthsSony hasn't had any games since PS3 who the fuck keeps buying these things?
>>735983618They technically have had some exclusives, you're just an obtuse faggot and you'll claim they don't count as if any of the other console makers have anything worth a shit and aren't multiplat machines too.
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>>735921640>thinking Sony is going to release a PS6 within this decadeNintendo risked it all for a Switch 2 because they had no choice, no way in hell Sony is going to do the same when PS5 is still selling and all this shit is going on.
>>735986765>Nintendo risked it all for a Switch 2 How so?
>>735921640And PS5 still has no gaems...
>>73592272499% of the garbage you play on Steam is on PS5, too.
>>735986847selling better than your favorite console btw
>>735987035wow so PS5 has nothing since everything worth playing is on steam
>>735987109and i could say vice versa
Sony spending the extra shekels on a 1tb (actually 800gb) Gen 5 ssd for the PS6 marketing is going to be hilarious.
>>735987109PS5 can play used physical copies. I just got Ninja Gaiden 4 for $25 last week
>>735922000Checked
>>735986813Because the Switch 1 is outdated and cannot support another generation on its own, especially since they had basically stopped any new content for their older evergreen games. If they had more dlc or expac for mk8, smash ult, splatoon, etc..., they wouldn't need a switch 2.
>>735974390Vast majority of people were thinking $600 like PS3, but it came out at $400 (digital)/$500. Honestly, I think Sony has some pretty fucking good connections and they'll somehow shit out the PS6 at $600 (digital)/$700, despite what leakers and everyone here is rumbling about. I don't know how Sony does it, but other companies are willing to bend over for them and give them the royal treatment with amazing contracts.
>>735989934Are you telling me the Switch 2 exclusives that have so far been released couldn't run on the Switch 1?
>>735990803Bananza, the lead title for S2 was originally developed on the Switch 1 and it still uses FSR instead of DLSS which the Switch 2 is known for. Very sad. Mario Kart World is more or less MK8, Hyrule is a clone of a S1 game, Air Riders is a gamecube remake, and Mario Tennis is a S1 clone as well.
>>735921640>Ps6We barely have any games on PS5.What are they thinking????Or this is the new strategy now? One or two dozen games/console?
>>735991164>We
>consoles are now almost as expensive as the PC I built 2 years agoObviously modern builds are now overpriced thanks to AI jeets but this is fucking sad. The average person is being priced out by big tech and greedy kikes.
>>735991310>The average person is being priced out by big tech and greedy kikes.Get them the fuck out of my hobby.
>>735991469Who? The kikes?
>>735992102The kikes will go away once gaming stops being so popular.
>>735990803If Nintendo wants better ports or support from their 3rd party, they need something beefier than the Switch 1, nevermind how they admited some of their games couldn't be done on the Switch 1 so they had to move it over to the Switch 2. Switch 1 was simply too underpowered for them to continue to support and a lot of their evergreen games wasn't getting any more content. They especially needed more multiplayer content.
>>735921771anon, that IS at a loss
>>735921640is it going to have games?
>>735992262That doesn't sound like risk. Sounds like growth. Sounds like, if forced to, Nintendo could have stayed with the Switch 1. 90% of the success of the Switch is Nintendo games. It's not like 3rd Party games matter to them. They could have also continued to support Switch 1 games if they wanted to. Their evergreen titles not getting anymore content is Nintendo's choice. They could have just continued to put out more content. And which Switch 2 exclusive game so far released do you think could not run on the Switch 1?
>>735992459The PSVR2, PS5, PSVR, PS4, PS Vita, PS3, PSP, PS2, and PS1 didn't have games. They did fine.
>>735992535Well, PSVR2 and Vita didn't really do fine but yea, the PS6 will do 80 million+ without games because the competition is just too fucking retarded.
>>735992459Ghost of Horizon War and big indies after their 5 year early access ends
I’ve only had the PS5 for a short while but my storage is almost full. What do you guys do, just delete games all the time?
>>735994762>What do you guys do, just delete games all the time?Yea. Do you play all those games all the time?
PlayStation exists solely due to marketing and market inertia. It's seen as the "premium offering" of the video game market, despite being supported by ball-and-gun games and movie games.It's the same reason that the common person buys a "good" audio system despite not caring for the audio quality or streaming over Bluetooth.Nintendo is the "kid's game", while Microsoft lost the market with their attempts to blur the boundaries between video games and entertainment as a whole.Personally, I'd be more sympathetic with Sony if they didn't fund all these games with social messaging and live service elements. I just want something to pick up that won't lecture me or make me be involved in a story, all while having some engaging IP as the backdrop (WHICH THEY HAVE).
>>735994957Makes sense.
>>735994762>>735994957cant you walled-garden fags upgrade that shit?
>>735921640Who is KeplerL2 and why should I take his words seriously?
>>735986321lmao terrible deal.
>>735995564Yea, but have you seen the prices of SSDs these days?
>>735924595I miss the good ol' days when hackers would drop millions of dollars from the sky.
>>735995719i have 2 990 evos just sitting in a box
>>735995623>KeplerL2A leaker who is known to have access to amd related hardware info and have been accurate many times in the past>take his words seriously?His track record. But also he is not an engineer and a total retard when he tries to push his poorly informed and poorly thought guesses as "leaks".My guess is that this BoM figure here is his own stupid estimate so I will dismiss him in this instance.
>>735921926GTA6
>>735921907Five hundred and ninety nine US dollars
