https://x.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/2038034344187461993You ARE watching their playthrough right?
This cat is so high pitched it doesn't even sound like a cat anymore.https://litter.catbox.moe/cytwn5.mp3
>>735939790cute
>>735939737I've been holdinh to the cursed Sonichu medallion for over a month now waiting for Sonichu stray to have it equip it
>>735939836>waiting for Sonichu strayI got bad news for you man
>>735939860https://mewgenics.wiki.gg/wiki/Stray_Cats#Special_Strays
>>735939926Yeah, the bad news is that "Special" strays are really, REALLY fucking rare. Like, most people will never see even one rare.
>>735939957I get it. But I'm not giving the medallion to anyone else nor am I going to trash it
what the FUCK are those
>>735940078In early 4chan there was meme pic of "found cat" and how it was aggressive and it had photo of raccoon on it implying the person posting it mistaking wild raccoon for a lost cat
>>735940078Freaks.Thankfully we live in a world without such abominations.
>>735940078 Cats
On your regular run, how often you tend to get downed? Even in my early runs I very rarely got downed and now several hundreds hours in, I don't think I've gotten downed more than 5% of my runs.I remember some anon claiming getting downed happens every run and it's just part of the game but I'm starting to think he was a scrub.
>>735939737>chris chan can beat Boris >Asmongold can’t Lmao
>>735940314On normal runs, almost never.On higher difficulties, it tends to happen a few times. Unless I'm packing some stupid combo that trivializes things.
>>735940314the only thing capable of downing me at this point is hard+ creator and only because he cheats
I have mewgenics thread fatigue
i accidently hit next day somehow and wtf darjeerling grew up and killed a bitch
>>735940510Play more, post less
>>735940572Chupacabra lookin motherfucker.
Why did Edmund put so many child sex offenders in his voice cast?
>>735940668For (You)s
>>735940510Stop opening them then
>>735940668cuz it's funny, next question
>>735940314On hard difficulty, maybe 1 in 5 runs see a cat get downed, usually at creator (not counting the instakill). Or as a chain from an unlucky event.
>>>/vg/
>>735939926>+1 int on the self-insert catsHow boring.
>>735941172How many hours do you have?
>>735940314I exclusively run the game on Difficulty 7 (3 above impossible, which is the cap for some reason). All the enemies are champions with 5x health and 15-20 elite modifiers each.Even at this level I don't get downed cats except a rare strategic downing against dybbuk. Game is too easy, steak too tender.
>>735940078I've rolled into the pig snout mutation 20 separate times and have dumped the cat that got it every single time.>>735940314Many retards here are genre tourists that only touched a roguelite strategy game because they saw their favorite streamer playing the game. And they have the type of autism where they can't comprehend someone being better or smarter than them so they spazz out when they realize someone in the thread is better or smarter than them.
>>735941387>And they have the type of autism where they can't comprehend someone being better or smarter than them so they spazz out when they realize someone in the thread is better or smarter than them.Inb4 the Spewer-scrub comes to prove you right
>>735941387This is pretty much my first foray into tactical RPGs or whatever the fuck this is considered and I think I've done pretty well.I bet that many people struggling would improve significantly if you just sat them down and explained enemy movement ranges.
>>735940078
>>735941595I can recommend Xcom if you want more of the same stuff. With 2000s' Xcom (the 3d ones), start with Xcom Enemy Unknown without the DLC, play the campaign to either the very end or to the point where you unlock the final mission and need to breed Psychic to enter. Then get the Enemy Within DLC, it adds lot of QoL changes but also adds side stuff that expects you to be familiar with the base game. The DLC also gives you default story character that becomes Psychic, in the base game you need to roll RNG whether your soldier gets to be one and it can take lot of time to roll it.If you into it, get Xcom 2 and again, start with the base vanilla and get to the end before adding the War of The Chosen expansion because once again, the expansion expects you to be familiar with the base and adds lot of side hustle that might overwhelm you if you in cold
>>735941813I'll have to look into em, I think I always shied away from them in the past mostly because of the meta/campaign stuff. Ticking timers always kill my mental game.
>>735942012The timers are very lenient in normal difficulties and even losing a support from a country or 2 in the first game is not end of the world. It's mostly down to up the stakes for dramatics. Both the first and the second game has end of the month review read by this mysterious guy with his face in shadows and him telling you off is part of the feel. Even if you did everything else perfectly but took one setback he will remind you of it.The games are lot easier than what they portray and the stress is more of story and tension building for the feel than actual challenge.
Best advice for the Stopwatch quest?
>>735942291Straight forward units and skills. Tank, Fighter, Hunter and a double of them on whatever the blank collar offers. Gimmick classes I don't recommend if you need to take time to calculate how to make them work
>>735942213Aha, that's good to know.>>735942291Not much aside from the obvious "think fast"If you need a bit more time to think you can slam a usable trinket or weapon to reset the timer.
>>735942384Or low cost ability.Basically any committed action whatsoever resets the timer.
>>735942291Learning the hotkeys is the biggest help desu.
>>735942291just go for it, it really isn't too hard, it's more lenient than it sounds like
>do raid boss>forget to repair>a bunch of decent items is now gonefuck
>>735942761You get the items back. It's part of the game to part with your equipment
HU BAGGA HU BAGGA
>>735942825I’ve gotten used to Repair for too long… I have been hoarding a bunch of god-tier equipment.
>>735942940Repair is for sure getting nerfed, it breaks too much.
>>735939737>"Alright Hitler 3 is down, time to do this Signal Amplifier quest, should be easy I have all 7, cats with good mutations, ill pick strong smasher classes that can beat up these robots and-">Signal Amplifier Summons Robot Arthur first battle>Metronome>Mass PsychosisIt would appear, that this quest might be just a tad more of a challenge than I originally anticipated. Meow.
>>735942940That's a crutch. Rip off the band-aid and you will breathe better. You might even surprise yourself how well you can do without them
>>735943056on a related note (beyond just being OP) i think repair, soul jars, and eternal kittens go against the game's general design philosophy of having things be ephemeral. it feels weird to be able to keep things forever in a game about not being able to keep things forever.
>>735943141I think Repair's likely to just get its Worn-removal removed. It doesn't even mention that in its description.
>>735940510then why are you clicking on them
I'm never doing repair shit. I'll complain about my good items and I'll savescum, edit my cats whatever, but I'll never do that or soul jar shit. It unironically feels soulless and fucking lame to do. But, so is late game once you have perfect stats and mutations really just fucking waiting over and over again for house bosses to be summoned ? I hate this
>>735943141Yeah that's the crux of it. Other stuff can be OP but they don't fuck with the general design of the game. I would bet good money that some part of the soul jar combo gets hit with the hammer. Or some new enemy mechanic that fucks with it somehow. Though eternal youth will probably stay just because it seems intended, it's not even a combo. Your cat basically becomes furniture, which is one of the things that you do get to keep forever at not risk. Maybe there'll be house bosses which can destroy furniture or kill cats?
>>735943235>But, so is late game once you have perfect stats and mutations really just fucking waiting over and over again for house bosses to be summoned ? I hate thisBefore the final boss and final story quest? Yes you are expected to play for fun/loot/veteran cats without every run progressing the story/main campaign. If you are only in for every run giving you a cheevo or visible advancement, you need to do the right thing and call it quits now.
>>735943331>Your cat basically becomes furniture, which is one of the things that you do get to keep forever at not risk.that's a fair point i didn't consider. i wonder why they chose to have furniture be permanent but nothing else. my furniture inventory is basically just a bottomless well of huge useless crap at this point.
>>735943235Once you do the time travel, Steven opens up and lets you do Act 1 and Act 2 in harder difficulties. Re-summoning house bosses and doing them in harder variant also opens up.
>>735943235Late game is higher difficulties, and at that point with perfect mutations and stats you've probably sunk 200+ hours into the game, which I think is a fair amount of content. No game is going to be enjoyable forever.
>>735943384>i wonder why they chose to have furniture be permanent but nothing elseOther than the Tracy unlocks of the idols, other furniture are RNG and you can't expect player to roll optimal furniture every time they get new furniture. So even if you didn't get optimal furniture, you get SOMETHING that helps you. And once you done enough runs and upgraded Baby Jack, you will start to rearrange optimal furniture over using only what you get
>>735943235I end up keeping things fresh in the breeding department at least because I just cannot tolerate supremely ugly mutations.Also today I just went and sent off ALL of my old guard at the house because I got tired of dealing with their fights and wanted a clean slate. Some of them even had Monkey Paw disorders which means I'm never getting them back.And I don't regret it.
>>735943398>>735943348I mean doing stuff for crazy and impossible, having to wait every fucking three days to resummon shit makes me feel like I'm wasting my time when my cats can get old as early as age 16 and I don't want them to die just yet.It feels so unoptimal and I fucking hate it.I'm already 250 achievements in its literally too late to quit now and I'm a neet currently till college starts in the fall. My genuine, diagnosed autism won't let me stop a game till I've 100%d itI still have fun but it's pissing me off and I don't want to install mods
>>735943508>old as early as age 16Rib detected.
Just finished The Rift a few days ago, and only have 3-4 side quest items left over to dosomehow at 79% complete but gonna call it anyway >>735939737also got sonichu randomly along the way, he was good as a rogue only since the other collars change him from yellow so he died after a couple runs rip
>>735939957It's like 1 in 1000As someone that's played Pokemon, I like my odds
>>735943508Is this your first Edmund game?I'm not trying to be demeaning, I'm asking because his games are always INCREDIBLY excruciating to 100%.
>>735940314At first I assumed getting downed was just something to power throughNow it basically never happens. I can do naked starts in the desert and not get downed even once. It's gotten to the point that Im struggling to level jack up for more furniture
>>735943491you could say the exact same thing about items though. other than the persuasion device and unlocks, other items are RNG, so you go through the same filtering process of acquiring and using progressively better items until you're dumping most of what you get in the trash.you do get items more often than you get furniture, but that could just mean that you lose or deplete furniture more slowly than items. maybe cats could wear away at them by scratching and biting and pissing and shitting on them over time or something like that.
>>735943549I'm not using rib. Some of my cats just get old very fast and it stresses me out. When I first started on my save I'd keep waiting around and everyone died. It just makes me upset and I want to be done the game already I enjoy it but mentally I'm not done and can't move on until I 100%Fuuuuuuuuu>>735943607Nope. Isaac is incredibly easy to 100% for example. I did it only in a month while working full time at fucking McDonald's. Literally last year tooIsaac was genuinely fun to play since modding was also easy and mostly cosmetic for meWhile I fucking loathe the idea of downloading a shitty program like mewtator to play with mods.
>>735943384I think they let furniture stay as is because the ceiling is way lower, even with max house stats all that does for you is breed perfect cats and progress NPCs. Which by the end game is good, but it's not that crazy. I do think they'll add some mechanic to either use up or destroy furniture, if only because of the clutter by the end game. It'll probably be opt in though since it's essentially the meta progression of the game and it's not a good idea to fuck with those too much.
'Reflects projectiles' gotta be the worst bullshit.
>>735943678I'm sensing you have mental problems and there's no other way out of your mind's prison other than you taking the step.
>>735943678I didn't think it was possible to get non-Rib Old cats before they turned 20. You aren't running low health or something?
>RNGslop
>>735943905Good morning, ritual poster. How far you in the game?
Postgame is fucking boring, running around with at team of cats with busted mutations and OP monk/jester skills is too fucking braindead, ruins the strategy aspect that made the game fun and outright makes a good chunk of classes irrelevantThe game needs a "daily run" mode that gives you 4 cats(some with fun mutations/defects), a few random items and a cursed disorder syringe that you need to use
>there's unique splash art for the second time you reach every season
>>735944020There's unique splash art for the THIRD time you reach every season
>>735944020love these, can you post them all?
>>735944040Is there? There's Spring and Summer of year 3, but that's because you don't see those year 1.
>>735944020this art style makes the cats look so weird and fleshy. NOT CUTE!
>>735943860Anon. It's called autism, I said before it was my genuine autism. Someone who's not autistic shouldn't be on this website, and you'd never get it.Normalfags OUT >>735943874Oh yeah they just might have low health. I was sort of wondering how my psychic was 49 but I just had a 19 year old cat get old. They could be ribbed too but I wouldn't remember NGL, since I do a run every single day no matter what.
>>735944049Wiki has them
Holy fuck is that an Oondertool reference
>>735944193Whoops wrong one I suck cocks.
>>735944149>Anon. It's called autism, I said before it was my genuine autism. Someone who's not autistic shouldn't be on this website, and you'd never get it.>Normalfags OUTI've been to 4chan since 2004 and I've had sex with over 100 women and I make money from entertainment and art. Anons pretending to be autist nerd incels was a joke that lured in real autist nerd incels thinking they'd fit in.
>>735944242Underage cope
>>735944268I'm in my 40s. I'm old enough to be your father.
>>735944360Fucking 100 girls in 2004 is easy mode, unc. Go to facebook like all the other boomers so you can pretend we're still in the 90s.
>>735943109about to do signal amplifier>fighter has 8 brace and 30 with 30hp armor at lvl 1 alreadywish me luck
>>735944360>40s and in an Edmund game threadGenuinely pathetic if this isn't a larp. But it probably is.
>>735944496Imagine thinking you need to stop enjoying things when you get "too old"
>lol look how big and mature I am on a Mongolian basket weaving forum>Btw Im in my 40s and I enjoy playing games about shit and piss with cats>No I don't have any children or wife of my own
>>735944407>8 braceWhat
>>735944615I have a wife. No children though because we don't want any
>>735944615When you get old enough, you too will realize maturity is doing what you want without needing to stress over what others will think of you
>>735944615>No I don't have any children or wife of my ownHonestly wouldn't be surprised if the amount of anons with kids is higher here than in other threads, roguelikes, roguelites, or whatever you want to call them seem pretty popular with married guys.
>>735944615i say this
>>735944615Man you're not 14 anymore grow up, you remind me of that mentally stunted /b/tard I once talked to that was thrown into juv through his entire teenagehood because he got psyop'd into lusting after his sister, and now he's a child in a grown ass adult's body
>>735944615Kinda pathetic but not as pathetic as wasting your prime teens and early 20s on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr4PE9Q5YAc>OOH CHAKOWMan I wish the soundtrack had the actual battle versions of the songs, they're rarely the same as the "instrumentals" which are just the boss songs minus lyrics.
You know I'm surprised there's not a disorder that makes you cat immune to the effects of catnip. Because apparently that's a thing in 40% of all cats.
>>735945364It's actually silvervine :^)
me and my squad
Alright, I changed my mind Taser Paws is great.
>>735945849The mom cat's been busy since the kittens are that varied
>>735946096don't say that about her. the stork was just very generous.
>>735946206She's a slut! A slutty cat!
>>735945849>>735946206There's been at least 3 different male cats unloading their juices into the mom cat the same day judging by the kittens fur
I 100% it now im gonna drawfag for a bit
>>735945849>>735946206Hey there, boys! The name is Dirty Mittens~!
>>735946341You are a cool guy
This game sucks at conveying information. Extremely messy UI and the battlefield is too visually busy. Tactical mode barely improves this.
>scatter shot+hunter's boon>every single enemy killed gives mana>4 slimes give 5 mana apiece, then split into 4 smaller slimes that also give 5 mana apiece>keep spraying over and over until all the slimes dieHow can one skill shut a midboss down this utterly this is fucking nuts
>>735947663just wait till you upgrade hunters boon
>>735946570Not wrong, mate
>>735943970My postgame is me running through Normal with wacky team compositions wrecking shit because of my items and trying to get new sets. I like it :^3
"Old" posts
>>735946341god I wish that was me
Any tips for The Mother fight if I don't have a lot of AoE? this shit is kicking my ass
>>735948939Extra movement and extra attacks are great too. Shit like teleports and such. Killing one of the nodes at the very start can clear out over half the field and reset the Mother.
>>735948939if you kill the tumors around it the adjacent ones further away explode as well
>>735940510This is a chris chan thread, retard
I remember /v/ complaining about these enemies. Don't think I ever had a problem with them a single time.
>>735940078i got the bunny, it died of old age yesterday after a month of everyone beating the shit out of it, was a ? so it slept with all the bitches
>>735949526Same deal with amoebas and those fucking mongoose things in the jurassicAnything that breaks your equipment is evil incarnate, these are just the first ones to show up
>>735949746The amoebas are definitely cunts in the levels with little or no rocks.The mongoose are funny.
quick question: what can you use primordial dwarfs for? stat wise they're only good for tinker baseline, obviously the luck stats make it great for thief/hunter.Is this just something I breed later when I put more stat boosting mutations into the bloodline? I know luck is great but damn the rest of stats are tanked seems weird to build around. Or is this one of those goated solo/duo cats?
>Have a Mute Monk with the Demonic Set>Thanks to brace abuse, all the downsides are mitigated hard>My necromancer gets Trade Life>Oh shit, I can pseudo-heal now on top of it>Turns out it doesn't let you and it counts as healingReeee
>>735949526They fucked me earlygame every time they got a shot in early, it would always destroy somethingLosing a quest item to them is always a fucker too
>>735949526They can instantly ruin sidequest runs by breaking the item. And they do it from a range, just to add insult to injury
>>735943970>Postgame is fucking boring, running around with at team of cats with busted mutations and OP monk/jester skills is too fucking braindead, ruins the strategy aspect that made the game fun and outright makes a good chunk of classes irrelevantYou can make your own fun, but yeah the challenge drops hard and classes like Tinkerer or Necro can't keep up and I'm not sure about the way higher difficulties are right now, but also not don't know how to fix that. It just devolves into runnig around with high damage dealers and clearing out everything in round 1.I'm just doing quests or solo runs or what I think would be be fun.>The game needs a "daily run" mode that gives you 4 cats(some with fun mutations/defects)I agree with this
>>735949975>>735949979Yeah, but they're really fucking slow. Barely ranged, as well.
>>735950060that said I had hundreds of hours of fun and pretty much complete the the gameother games I can't bring myself to play for an hour
>Immediately walks over and kills the spiderlings she spawnsWhat the fuck was her problem?
>Monk Dexterity at TWENTY ONE>One ranged attack does six damagelol
>>735950137And when you first meet them, you are not strong enough to 1 turn them so you are getting hit, hell you don't even know what 1 turning means at that point
>time machined swapped my mouth reroll mutation for generic stat boost
>>735950228I think hard mode makes them have 5 health so they will survive one run over, its just funny because she'll birth them and instantly just go 'fuck em kids' and run them over
best loadout for a soul jar?
>>735950569>And when you first meet them, you are not strong enough to 1 turn themMaybe I was just lucky, I always had a way to deal with them. Never lost a piece of equipment. Either I was strong enough to hit them, had good enough range to attack them multiple times without danger or could run away somehow.
>>735950807This game is a lot like that and people are having a hard time realizing it. The snowballing happens for both you and the enemy and the metagame means your family line is gonna have some mutations and stats that are strong against some things and weak against others.It's why some people swear up and down Bumblefoot was the hardest boss early game while others were sure it was Spewer.
>>735949934luck is OP as fuck so use it for anything, including tanks if you have any dodge items/mutations
>>735944193tyler please bring back the fishing with your cats minigame thanks
>>735940510
>>735950228>have a cleric with thou shalt not kill>she basically kills herself by walking on her spiderlingsIt was a funny run
we did it :)Can I go to the throbbing domain from either side of Act 1? I left this run before going inside as my party was kind of fucked and I barely beat the boss.
>>735951979Yea
>>735951979GratzAlso lol at that cat
>>735939926>references>sciresMHUH?
>Barely 24 hours into the game's release>Already facing FrostbiterEither a pro gamer no lifer or he just got really unlucky in the sewers kek
I believe I found the first instance of a post that has now had the gist of it repeated about a thousand times in the past month. Everyone eventually learns that zombies suck dick.
>>735952380>Worst class on day one>Still the worst class a month later
Love seeing people finding insane bullshit right at the start. Imagine finding an ice cave chieftain in your third run.
>>735952443Necromancer might just be my most played class other than Thief, no joke. I love a lot of the abilities he gets and I keep wanting to experiment with new ones. It's just the zombie cats that suck.
>>735952443I learned zombie kittens sucked before I even unlocked necromancer. Thanks, necronomicon. Never used that item again.
>>735952516I would like necromancer more if they didn't push that suicide build so much. Resurrecting, leeching and debuffing stuff is fun, the this will never be useful probably abilities are not. Same with tinkerer and all these "you do nothing useful then explode lol" skills.
>>735952349Most likely a snowy sewers, there was one anon who was blitzing through the game with Blacksmith repair uzi Tinkerers though
>>735952516>other than ThiefI meant other than Fighter. I don't play with Thief that much.
>>735952769>three different bosses for each areakek, that didn't age well
I haven't touched the game since I beat it like 2 weeks ago.The breeding shit is just too annoying and I just wanna do runs.
Do you guys ever get Mewgenics dreams?Just lost an entire night's sleep to a delusional dream where all my cats had a fuck ton of turns per round and only had 1-2 mana movement abilities and constantly triggering passives. I had to use all my mana every turn and it was at 1x speed
>2blessed 2b stressed
>>735953029>Another weather event I haven't seen 300+ hours in
>>735939926>distinction between cryptids and fake cryptids
I feel obligated to do only 1 run a day now but it keeps snowballing into 3 hour play sessions>>735940314Hello, retard here. I get downed every other run. I guarantee a cat will get downed during real cancer buffs like Bouncy Dybbuk, or Depressing & multiple enemies. I know how to avoid this, just stop taking 4 CON cats, but mine come with amazing mutations and shit like 12 STR or DEX which makes me instalock Fighter or Hunter. Now as for losing runs, it's just Creator on Hard or above that kills me. Oh, I also sometimes kill my own cats. Usually happens to a Tinkerer that I get fed up with and slaughter.
I have never save scummed, I'm clean with Steven.I have never permakilled a cat of mine on purpose.
>>735953841You shouldn't keep cats with a stat below 5, I myself piped all my cats with 3 speed or less as not even good mutations can overcome bad stats
>>735946570>enter 'tactical mode'>hovering over anything blocks all your chips with 10 buff/debuff descriptors>when trying to see if your range will touch any tile of a fatass 2x2/3x3 boss, the art loads in and obscures the chip and floor>no visual indicator for maggot/fly/tiny enemy on food item or a few specifically colored tiles, looks unreadable>druid flower spam obscures the whole map because fuck you
>>735954182Just chew slower, with enough chewing you can just feel what the things on screen are.
>>735954339where's his d6
>>735949906I had a run earlier today where my Fighter with Counter got robbed blind by a group of them, every time they stole something, he punched them so hard there wasn't even a corpse left.>>735954106I keep some shitty stat cats. My Williams Syndrome and Spina Bifida niggas are carrying my runs.
>>735954375fat fuck ate it
Thanks to the Skill Stone, my Fighter's Chaos Rampage costs 2 mana per cast. Thanks to my Tinfoil Hat, I have full control over the Fighter on its extra turns. Thanks to the Text Book, its mana regen increases by 1 each turn :)
>>735952202I got piggy cats for some reason lmao
>>735954515Some defects like williams, tachysensia, uberchad can be good>Spina bifida>-5 speedYo what the fuck how do you get any value out of going absolutely last?
I threw out my only soul jar in 70 hours because I feared that if I actually went through with repair tinkerer nonsense the game would suddenly become antifun.
>>735955447I keep finding them all the time. This one I got from Desert just now
>make a cat with summon apprentice into a necromancer>starting skills: dark ritual and corpse connoisseur>start every battle with 2-3 free apprenticesits criminal how good monk abilities are to pass down
>>735953237Fake as in having no actual established folklore, just some guy on the Internet spouting bullshit
>>735953237The fiji mermaid was a fish sewn to a monkey
Turn 1 kill on elite Johnny
>>735956408Got his stool for it
>>735940314The game snowballs really hard by the time you're doig act 3 house invasions. It feels like overnight I went from going home with injuries to completely decimating the game with cats bred with high stats, empty mind hunter/fighter, cleanseable meditate, fast hands, werewolf, etc. I didn't even aim for a house like that, it just happened. I cleared the signal amplifier quest with a fight room cat, empty mind cat, and a random throwaway and I didn't have a single fight last more than 2 rounds. I'm realizing that "skill" in this game doesn't kick in until you start going for hard mode completions.
>>735955665Yeah monk is the best class in the game and only druid comes close.
>>735953029Shit makes fenrir fucking cancer
Fuuuuuuuuck
why is butch pointing there?
>Tard out and make my Albino cat the Druid >barely ends up inflicting Fear on allies even with Encore+Encourage letting me spam it alongside the double-head and wire tail mutations giving me extra turns and bonus attacks>get Control Water so I Upgraded it at the earliest opportunity and basically eliminated the issue wholesaleI LOVE NOT FACING CONSEQUENCES FOR MY ACTIONS!!!
I am disappointed with the Alpha system. I was hoping it would be class you could designate at the start of a run, possibly with some kind of caveat that if they die, you lose the run or something. As is, it just feels like a half-baked buff requirement.
>>735957343Alpha is sadly undercooked. You have to buikd your entire team around it, as a squad of cheerleaders for very middling benefits. The only skills from the alpha status family that are worth it are assert dominance and chosen warrior. The rest suck. Also the fighter passive most valuable cat is a fucking scam, do NOT take this shit.
>>735943141I think a simple solution would be to make soul jars not be repairable. once they're gone they're gone.
>>735957343Maybe one of the DLC classes will be a sort of "Commander" class that has it's innate ability be becoming the Alpha at the start of the fight and has a bunch of abilities that center around both taking advantage of that and "ordering" allies to do shit.
>doing angry face sidequest>get to chubs n nubs>in their blind fuckery they almost gib the cat out of the bluePeople meme about RNG in this game but this sidequest does really feel like it amounts to hoping RNG doesn't decide to fuck you out of nowhereI feel I got lucky that the angry cat got killed on the side of the arena in most boss battles
>>735939737post butthleo
>>735955615>>735955447I found 6 of them in about 300 hours, I've only 'made' two of them with actual souls. One was a generic repair cat with a scythe. the other one was tons of fun stacking an weapon that gained damage through uses but reset after the adventure (mine got to 769 damage)I don't plan on taking them into every run but it's fun to build these crazy soul jars.
>>735957827This game has ungodly amounts of RNG and it's silly to deny it. It's part of the fun. It's literally like Edmund's favorite game, Magic: The Gathering.
>>735949934You use them for the Angry Face quest.
>>735949934primordial dwarf is 10/10, that cat just has dogshit mutations
>>735943109>Make it to the Bunker Boss>Bunker Chud Cleaner is on the other side of the boss, none of my cats can get to him in time>Fighter gets mind controlled>Downs my Monk>"Okay I can do this with just three cats just as long as-">Signal Amplifier Summons Robot Arthur, once again>Metronome>Forbidden Frost, twiceAlt + F4, fuck you Steven eat my shit.
Amazing how a run ender can turn into a carry if you have the right item.
>>735957343It can be good, occasionally. I had a middling Hunter that wound up being about to abuse the "skip turn to deal 2x damage" active thanks to a late Psychic roll for the "grant unit an extra turn + give it 10 mana" active. Jester had a Cleric(?) active that granted extra damage to the alpha. Not saying that made a huge difference, but I wasn't complaining about extra fuel for the fire. It let my team sweep the Destroyer in 2 turns from the Hunter.
>>735958398Great idea>>735958458yeah lil bro rolled low and got only 3 and one is a stat up
>>735939737>sonichu>chris chanrapist the incest
>>735957827The item you get isn't even that good. Often times putting a cat in a group of enemies and letting the AI take a turn just fucks you over.
>>735958546Nah that's just the tinfoil hat being absolutely fucking goatedas always. I really hope they dont nerf it, there's just so much cancer you can completely sidestep with it
>>735958597It ain't rape it was better than Bob, chud.
Is there any cool synergies with Morphine Drip (reduce all damage by 3 but take the subtracted damage at the end of the round all at once)? Seems kinda useless
>>735958781I like it on corpse necromancers because it gives me greater control over when they go down.
>>735957343It's good that you get to decide on a battle basis, sometimes I want my fighter to habe extra movement, sometimes my thief so he can get close and leave, and sometimes my cleric is tanky enough to swap for one of them or finish with open wounds. The passive from fighter sucks tho, you need to either not kill with any other unit or have a slow fighter so he can have the last kill, and both are bad situations
>>735958781You can cleanse away the delayed damage debuff
Another fucked cat, this one is destined for greatness I just know it. I got zodiacs revolver and a sacred heart, just wish I had the caveman eyebrows, though I do have the ultra vision 3000 v1.1
>>735957343It feels straight out of Magic The Gathering.>>735957598I like sticking the Monarch Crown on a ranged attacker to give it a free All Stats Up. Having All Stats Up should be the baseline for designating an Alpha.
MAYBE I'VE BEEN HERE TOO LONGIS KISSING MY SISTER SO WRONG?WE MIGHT MAKE A COUPLE A NITWITSWE'LL GET A FEW MUTANTS OUT OF ITWORKING WORKING WORKING WORKINGDOWN WITH THE DEVILDOWN WITH THE DEVILWORKING WORKING WORKING WORKINGDOWN WITH THE DEVILDOWN WITH THE DEVILWORKING WORKING WORKINGDOWN WITH THE DEVILDOWN WITH THE DEVIIILLLL
>>735958895>exposed brain mutation>researchYou have a god tier tech 4 tinkerer in your hands>Einsteinkek. How fitting
>>735958697there's nothing to really nerf about it, items are ephemeral and I've only gotten two tinfoils in 200+ hous.
I swear to I haven't gotten a single one of those Glowing Bone items from the Ice Age that've been something that felt worth going out of my way for. The best I picked up was one that gave me free Cartwheel and even then that's just alright.
>>735959056It's starting with repair and weapon proficiency, zodiac's revolver starts with 6 shots and shoots whenever an enemy walks into view (sadly only does 2 damage). If I can just boost that damage we will be goated, eh worse case I can stack basic attack effects.God I love exposed brain, got that on all my cats with multiple ways to avoid damage (I love casting spells/skills)
aw dude what I gotta do this shit with 3 cats? It made me sacrifice one.
>>735959305you only need to do it with 3 cats the first time around
>Have a bottle of PCP that's just been sitting in my inventory for hours>Just got a Tinfoil Hatayup, it's gaming time
>>735959207I think it's probably just rare to have one active ability break the game.>tfw got a stone fist bone>have a callus and black candle at homeI already know a cat is going to carry me through Act 3 with this. Might save it for the full collarless run.
>>735959207You should always be going for the Hard path for the extra levels.
>finally get super luck for the first time>pick up a forbidden spell for shits and giggles>forget I'm wearing the robot set that gives me an extra AI controlled turn>get psychosis, kill my whole team, and eventually lose the run because even though nothing can hit me I get twin mama maggots that go infinite and trample dash can't be evadedawesome
>>735943573so 1 in 17,000 for that specific one
>final stretch to Impossible Creator>2nd ever soul jar drops, holy shit!>Get absolutely BTFO'd by my team's clones, no chanceToday, Mystery Man did it. He was my hero.
>>735959624I only time I'll skip a hard path is when I know there's a room that'll completely counter me and ruin my run (mostly moon's hard path would scare the shit out of me with the alien probes and waggles)
>>735959737truly goatedi've somehow completed impossible on act 2 and act 3 before doing it on act 1. I think it's because I'll hoard my amazing cats for the other acts house bosses
>>735959737You should've just exited out and swapped around equipment to refresh the RNG seed and get some more manageable Elite buffs
>>735959714I actively avoid AI controlled turn "bonuses" because it just fucks you over. Fights last so few rounds that each action counts and doing things in an incorrect order can ruin the greater strategy.
Holy shit my fucking cats are gonna die of old age when they hit like 6 years old
>>735943235>soul jar>feels soulless>SOUL jar
>Season changes to FallWhat the fuck!?!?! What does this mean?!?!?
>>735959986You should be more worried about the random disorders your cats will get
>>735960064higher chance of tripping
>>735959305The Throbbing Queen is a sissy bitch that is easier than basically every boss in Act 3.
>>735960102maybe I'll put it in the fight room to just make it even worse for them
>put two couples of cats upstairs full of high stim furniture to grind out max 7s>first couple goes to old age without making a single kitten>the second couple is also close to doing the sameThey've all been straight, or at the very least bisexual and nonbinary, none of them are low libidoI can't tell if its glitched, genuinely
>>735960102Disorders can be more helpful than harmful. Rabies + Madness Immunity is a run winner.
>>735960064More rainy days. Scrubs need rain to go to Desert
>>735960189You probably have the idol preventing mating there
>>735960294>i've lost perfect potential 7/7 cats because I didn't read the fucking chastity idol outside of 'unga bunga 5 comfort me like'FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>735960189anon... the idol in the top of the room prevents breeding
>>735941279It's because of the glasses/eyes.All the mutations the self inserts/cryptids have you can find on cat mutations.
lads...what do I do he's kicked my ass twice
A mod I'd like to see is another form of meta progression - upgrading the collars themselvesfeels kinda strange having "job" based collars but no way to get to the "advanced" versions of them.Either a new NPC, or Butch againNeeds 25 x collar cats that are at least level 12 (so you need to do runs with less than 4 cats) to unlock the next class tierThen 10 level 25 ones for a final class upgrade.So after handing in 25 level 12 fighters, you unlock the "warrior collar" and all your "fighters" are now that instead.Benefits would include, more stats (positive and negative) on the collar, a better basic attack, a thematic auxiliary stat as a bonus, new warrior skills and fighter skills would have a small chance to appear upgraded. So as an example for the first 4Fighter > Warrior+3 STR, +2 SPD, +1 CON, -2 INT, +1 BraceBasic attack has slightly higher base damage and inflicts bruiseHunter > Ranger+5 DEX + 3 LCK + 1 INT - 2 CON - 3 SPD, +1 Innate poison on basic attacksBasic attack has slightly higher base damage and can now be used at close rangeMage > Seer+3 INT, +3 CHA, +1 DEX, -2 STR -2 CON, +1 insightBasic attack is stronger and has more rangeTank > Bulwark+6 CON +1 STR, -2 DEX, -2 INT, +1 RegenBasic attack gives user +1 thorns
>>735946341>stopped at 100%
Midboss difficulty tier list.I fucking HATE Zapphauser.
>>735960549...dino jobbers? really?
>>735960483Just use any solution where you can't miss it's that simple.
I can't go back to doing 4-cat runs. Even act 3, I just bring a druid or monk. 4-cat feels so inefficient by endgame. I always feel underpowered compared to 3-cat
>>735960549Alice is genuinely one of the harder ones to me, if you dont have any range you can just get stunlocked to death
>>735960483you need to get psychicswith telekinesis, true sight and increase gravitythat way he can't ever get close to your cats
>>735960549Actually, thinking about it, I should've dropped Lenny a tier.>>735960587With the right Elite buffs they're several times harder than Dreadnoughtus.
>>735960549is this an actual difficulty tierlist or just how annoying you find them?dino lovers are so piss easy that i cannot imagine why they would go in S tier either way though
>>735960549No spewer? And the dinos and infested twins are just gimmicky...
>>735960652impossible mama maggot is usually harder than impossible dino lovers, since they shit out so many buffed adds and give them extra turns
>>735960630There's a lot to be said for action economy. My "3-cat" runs are 3 cats + 1 with Neverstone. I give the stone to the one who already has a good enough starting skill and passive to contribute or the one I stack with weapons and items if nothing stands out.
>>735949934Luck > every other stat.Primordial dwarves basically trigger any % effect, almost always crit and get the best deals in shops/events.Your p.dwarf has 10% to dodge? It's actually 80%.25% to block and counterattack? Mmmhn make that 99%.They have low stats for everything else but you make up for it through level ups, get them to 24-30 HP, raise their damage stat if needed and there you go.
>>735960704that's midbosses, spewer is a main boss
>>735960483you can cheese him with cats that have cheap self harm abilities (necro blood guiser, the fights berserk action that drops his heath to 1, whatever the mage one that also drops its health to one.) You can also get a scythe (he'll get doomed when he copies and then die.) In a more normal way, lots of healing and tons of summons/familiars. He can only copy what he can reach after all. The cleric's 10 damage to killed summons would be great (even better if it gets upgraded to stun). You can also bring one hard carry and 3 worthless cats, make him copy the horrible cats then beat him up and run away before he copies the good cat, repeat
>>735960189>idol of CHASTITYlmao you fucking idiot
>>735960496I'd like this to be tied with harder difficulties OR solo runs.For solo runs, after you reach level 10-12, your cat gains expertise on its class and gets a shitload of bonuses.Otherwise the game would just become mindlessly easy.
>>735960549How is Zapphauser harder than Bloat what
>>735960549Putting this together I pretty quickly realized that I don't even think a lot of these guys are particularly, hard, just obscenely annoying (Zapphauser, Bloat, Rocky Bobo, etc.)
>>735960549>Infested pair>S tierWhat the fuck?
>>735959056>tech 4 tinkererhold up i thought the max that did anything was 3?
Do I have too many cats?
>>735960337>chastity idol>CHASTITY>hmm, why aren't my cats fucking
>>735960940Catbot has a huge jump from Tech 0 to Tech 1 so the meta is crafting a Tech 3 weapon and then making a Tech 1 catbot to use it.
>>735960867I was thinking this would be more balanced around a potential 4th act.
>>735960965nah that's an ok amounti'm usually hovering around 50 myself
oh i beat him lmao.
>>735961238Congrats on not letting him get away with murder!
>Upgrade Tracy's shop twice in one night>It only sells me the food box and not blank collarI assume it'll fix after another run, right?
>>735960926Clearly a list based on hard or up; pair spawning divine shield + shielded sprouts can be a huge PITA
>>735960965I'm currently at 85 and I still don't even have the 5th house room
>>735961238Now it's your turn to get away with murder.
is hard made a significant step up?
I think Bloat and Spewer are the only really hard mini bosses, bloat mostly
>>735961238k, b, cWhat a jobber
>>735939926no thanks on the human devs, though I will take the mermaid and jersey devil.
>>735961419GOD I pray that Mewgenics never gets an update that ruins the flashkino artstyle with sprites like Isaac did. It's absolutely criminal to go from clean high resolution 2D artwork to tweened pixelslop.
>>735961453Spewer is not a midboss thoughbeit
>>735961275No, after another day. For some reason, Tracy has exactly one slot to sell you unlocks, be it food boxes, a blank collar or an idol. She will cycle through them on a daiky basis
>>735961596Brutal blackpill is that Isaac was always intended to have sprite art, edmund just did flash art to get it out quick because he sucked at sprite artalso it necessitated a remake because it was made in Flash, like in ActionScript, and he thought it'd be funny for a remake to be a demake.
>>735961442Yes, but still doable with normal play. Crazy and Impossible is where you really have to go hard on mutations and synergizing bred abilities.
>>735961623lol right whoops
>use rainbow remote once>forbidden frostalright
>>735961442only the very final boss
>>735961623Spewer's hatred goes that far anon.
>>735961762I think it's really great and enhances building a party because you have to design a weakness into it that you can exploit and hopefully enemies can't
>meteor that has mini-me>copycat item from collarless only run that copies your trinket>tinkerer with armor specialist and blacksmith>12 luck>mangy wig>rocket launcher>3 mini-mes with rocket launchers and 6 extra fleas start of battleThat run was silly
I realise my list is mainly based on how much I worry about the mini boss, then second is how often I'll take some decent damage from them. I will say some of these get a major boost because of elite buffs, the maggot, the dino bros, the twins. C and D could be better organized too but eh
>>735960483I beat him and C-800 with Thief with Nail Flurry+. The rest of the team can be whatever, though you probably want some kind of support for C-1000 to copy.
>>735961828t. tyler
>>735961863Even if injuries might not affect the run THAT much in most cases... Abandoned Ones scares me shitless for it
>>735961828I find it slightly annoying because of how long it takes you to get there, plus the chances that you just don't get the choices for either them to fuck themselves over through AI or get the tools to blitz them down
>>735961863Frostbiter is a jobber unless you have no mobilityAlso, Stacy, Queen Hippo, and Spewer aren't midbosses
>>735962013It's not bad because at that point it's not like one or two injuries are going to nuke your run.but me no like big scary sound and permanent debuff
>Event gives you Spewer disorder>Mini-bosses and bosses swap places
>>735962050I got a bit of fuck mobility give me damage or give me death problem sometimes.Also yeah I'm stupid, I forgot they were main bosses (the list is now ruined and I should brick my desktop and kill myself)
>>735939926i have played 100+ hours and havent got one yet
>>735962270>The chance of a stray appearing increases every day, from 0% on day 1 to 0.1% on day 1460 (4 years and 10 days). With such chances you could go for many hundred more and still not see any, unless you're spamming end day like crazy
>>735962246I use Thief more than I should so I never really have a huge issue with Frostbiter.
https://x.com/rainbow_gem2/status/2002204218396917814
I just realized the only reason Chris hates asperger syndrome is because americans pronounce it as ass burger instead of aspergger
>>735962873this just sounds like Lost Kitty. The idea that it might've originally been for Bunker is actually kinda interesting though
>finally managed to yank the knife out of the wall>Mom's knife is now unlocked!I......feel like I missed something important here
Should I start a cat Fight Club? GOT KAT?LET'S FIGHT
>>735963450>Should I start a cat Fight Club?having a fit pit is really good, yesyour cats can get really fucking strong from all the bonus stats if they survive long enough and it's an excellent meat grinder for corpses and injured cats for house upgradesi throw literally every single kitten i get into the fight pitonly the strongest survive
Wow, I nearly killed one of my own cats for THIS? This shit isn't even uncommon level, let alone mythic.
Just finished with the Guilotina fight. I tried to hyper beam her 3 times and every time she was 1 step away...with immobilized on her. Edmund really really hates fun.
>>735963647>killedHow?If you start the event and your cat is naked, it means auto loss, if he isn't naked it means he succeeds.Worst thing that can happen is that Steven yells at you for resetting the event, otherwise it is literally 0 risk and all reward.
>>735963754I'm not a cheater, buddy. I WILL chew the steak.
>>735961828I think it'd be a lot better if you didn't basically have to reload to peek ahead at the modifiers. Otherwise yeah, it makes for the most interesting puzzles in the game.
I'm about to fight C1000 and I still have never fought Trampy before. I've gone through the junkyard at least a dozen times and it's always been Can Creeper
Should i do every unlock in act 1 before moving to act 2? Still have ranger sewer unlock and both colorless unlocks.
>hmm 109% max completion, Ed sure puts the number 109 a lot in his games>maybe I should look if it has any meaning attached to it>...>oh
/v/ will savescum instant blood frenzy events but of course won't savescum level-ups for the entire party lole
>>735964252Sucks to be you lol. Can Creeper sucks ass. I barely ever face him and I'm glad.>>735964275Yeah. Act 2 is a pretty big jump and the unlocks are great.
>save editor to bypass the forced grind and snail-paced progression>mod to shut up NPCs>mod to never fail boss lootsno steak for me today ed-boy
>>735964275Not super important, it's likely that sidequests will send you back through act 1 at some point anyway. But you may want to do it to beef up your cats or your items, a lot of people consider the first area of act 2 to be a difficulty spike.
>>735964275>metronome>skill share>copycat hat Do it. All of these unlocks are great. Keep in mind that to unlock the copycat hat you need to kill TK with a team.of just collarless cats. It's not as bad as it sounds but you should breed some multiclassing defects into your cats so they're up for the job
>>735964658Wait...are there unlocks for a team made only from one collar cat?
>>735964442I've gotten the former 4 times and the latter not even once
>>735964727It needs to be a team of only collarless, you can bring 4. Collarless is the only one with that kind of unlock.
>>735964727Just collarless. You get a little X at the class clear list for autism purposes it gets overwritten by a checkmark upon completing a solo with that class which is really fucking gay
>>735964836I haven't done TK yet. I didn't think about that before. So before going to act II i need to finish the first quest i got, finish hunter sewer, colorless both sewer and boneyard and do King with all classes.
>>735964925I mean technically speaking a solo run is a run with only that class.
>>735964927yeah you should make green quest items a priority and complete them when you can to avoid situations like this.For now, get all the unlocks you can and open the throbbing domain while breeding and statting up your cats. Then do a collarless run and get two clears out of the way.
>>735963450One of the most efficient way to accrue injured/dead cats. As a bonus, a victorious cat can be really nice on a run.
>>735964927Not at all, it's not needed by any means. I was halfway through act 3 before I did any of the collarless unlocks. The order you do stuff is up to you, unlocks can be nice but they're not going to carry you by any means. Plus at this point you probably don't have much stash space so you'll likely need to toss them out anyway.
>>735959041SOMEWHERE BEYOND THE MOON(SO HIGH)SOMEWHERE BEYOND THE MOON(SO HIIIIIIIGH)SOMEWHERE BEYOND THE MOON(Soo HiiIiiIiiiighhh...)GOODBYE.GOODBYE.GOODBYE...
Goodbye Tyler You'll forever be known to me as the Soul Jar that copies a revolver to a Catbot
>>735961863I still don't know what's up with the ice cube guy. Both times my scat cats just walked up and ate him.
>>735958870EEEEEEEH?
I have almost 300 hours on my save file and 0 soul jars found. Feels like a blessing, to be honest.
>>735959714Oof
>>735958781Holy shield, cleanse, down yourself.
>>735942291Spam escape.
>>735959932>You should've just cheatedWhy is /v/ like this?
>>735958781Immune to debuffs. 3 damage just...disappears from Every. Hit.
>>735961739I never use Metronome and that kind of shit anymore.I do like the one that randomly chooses a new enemy from the same act, though.
Why does everyone say the music in this game is so good? I just beat the Caves and I think I've heard one song I liked and it was on the radio
>>735966294Act1 music sucks compared to 2 & 3 imo
>just got the Loner subquestWhat's the solution? Necromancers that can act while down? Putting it on a Cleric capable of reviving downed party members? Being a mad lad and doing a solo run?
>>735966781Get the Angry Face sidequest too and have them kill all your enemies instead
>>735966781>Being a mad lad and doing a solo run?It's right in the name>LONER
>>735966781Leave it in your inventory and wait until you get a future Side Quest item that makes your cat act as if it's an enemy called the Angry Mask. Essentially being forced into doing a solo run or coming out with a bunch of crippled cats is nowhere near the hassle of how good the actual reward for beating the quest is.
>>735966294>>735966724THEM BONES THEM BONES
>>735960737>Your p.dwarf has 10% to dodge? It's actually 80%.>25% to block and counterattack? Mmmhn make that 99%.What? No.Each point of luck above 5 adds an (additive) 10% chance to REROLL a poor outcome. At 10 extra points you are guaranteed a reroll, and then each point above that gives a 10% chance for a second reroll, and so on.That means for a primordial dwarf with luck 18, a 10% chance for a good outcome becomes 21%, and a 25% chance becomes 48%.This is true for everything chance-based in battle and also some chance-based events. Critical hits are special, though. They have a base chance of 10%, but luck ALSO adds a flat 2% bonus for each point of luck above 5 and then gives you rerolls on top of that. That means a primordial dwarf with luck 18 has a 63% chance to crit. By 30 luck you'll have a 98% chance to crit and at 45 luck crits are guaranteed.
>>735966781Mystic Blindfold. You basically have a useless cat, but it can't hurt any of your cats.
>>735965740inside him there's literally a frozen poop poo poo = funny
>>735965740The icecube guy is the frozen version of flushmaster, the water slime that's controlled by poop that your scatological cats can eat for a one hit kill
>>735966781I did it with full party with 2 cats having "Revive team mates when you get downed" ability and the 3rd guy spawning All Stat Up kitten when downed. I constantly had at least 2 live cats plus kitten ally
Why is this person of color mad at me?
>>735968281you know what you did.
>>735968281once saw the main menu screen say "FATHER IS HERE" on the tree but haven't been able to see it since
>>735968793I just got "Farnk was here"
>>735968793I once saw a really cool worm
>>735963647it's bugged too and heals the enemies
>>735968943that's really cool
>extra turn mutation>unequip cursed items mutation>bonus attack mutation>fucking stun on basic attack mutation>trying to cutemaxx gave me charisma/speed GODS>monk skills bred on several kittensI just beat normal mode forever didn't I?
>>735968961The Throbbing Jobbers loot pool is ass, may as well call it the Bloody Razor gacha since that's the only good item there
Radical Rat dropped his glasses
>>735963647>uncursed item intended to be used indefinitelylol
>Reap bypassed dybbuk's possession gimmickEat shit
Will I be able to complete throbbing domain with 3 cats after sacrificing?
>>735970743It's obviously harder, but still doable. Once you've done the quest, the sacrifice becomes optional so you can bring full teams in.
>>735969256>Meat Slugger>Bloody Bear Traps>Bloody Knife
This just need a Muslim name and he is perfect, this equip that expand the area give me extra squirrels that will fucking explode without any single doubt
>>735966996>>735967058I've already done the Angry Face quest. I kekked when the game smacked down trying to cheese it with a neverstone
>>735971462The quest can repeat eventually. Just trash the other sidequest items till it gets given again
>>735964434Based Ed boy
why is the game so ugly to look at
>>735971727What's ugly about it?
>>735971462You can do it with Everstone, just gotta be quicker than the cat with the Angry Face.If it has something like the... green glowing rod weapon and some sort of bleed or poison automatically applied, it most likely is at 1 HP and dies in an instant anyway if you cant manage to kill it before its turn.
>>735939737So whats the chance to roll a Sonichu WITH Chris's voice?
Best way to use this? Give it to a 7 7s cat and pray to get good mutations to introduce into the gene pool or give it to some stray with good stats?
>>735939737I don't watch playthroughs.
>>735972285Give it to something with a Neverstone and carry them through a run. Their stats will be dogshit, but those don't carry over when breeding. Then just breed them in a room with a cat with all 7s and high stimulation so the resulting cat has a bunch of mutations and good stats.
>>735972414cats with 0 charisma or below don't breed
>>735972414How are you giving them a neverstone when they're both trinkets?
>>735972575just like humans IRL...
>>735940314Depends. If I get a cat that gets ass fucked by events, then ya, they're gonna die. If I'm doing totally blind shit starting actives, no passives strays, then bad roles can ass fuck you.
>>735963754>If you start the event and your cat is naked, it means auto loss, if he isn't naked it means he succeeds.Not true.
Tink > Butch > Jack > Frank > PLAPPLAPPLAP33 > Beanies > Tracy > Steven
>>735939957Lmao just save edit that shit
>>735972583Cancer is a disorder. There is cancer trinket too
>>735963076nah if you check out the video with the actual bunker clip, you can hear that's it's clearly alone in the dark.
>>735972285Do short runs to farm mutations and dont let the cancer cat's charm drop too low
>>735974091I know, and anon is asking about the trinket because that's the pic.
>>735940314Dybuk downs me every run.
>>735944020>even the game knows by then your cats are genetic freaks of nature.
>>735974452I dont open pics
>>735974772Then how did you know anon was asking about cancer?
>>735974960I deduced it from the post. I'm smart after all.
>>735940314Normal mode is a cakewalk when you know what to expect but on hard+ I still wipe occasionally. Usually because it's 1AM and I'm mindlessly pressing on instead of playing conservatively.
>>735975376>Usually because it's 1AM and I'm mindlessly pressing on instead of playing conservatively.Yeah that sounds like my case alright
>>735975376I've noticed that as I've progressed, my fights have generally gotten shorter and shorter. Basically any non-boss fight lasts only one, maybe two, rounds now. It's just the best way to not get fucked over by all the bullshit, but if I make a mistake then it's going to bite back pretty hard.
Eternal Servitude, my beloved..
Guess that's good enough, don't wanna accidentally lose him to infested on the caves
>>735976554Eyebrow is really good. Only downside I see to this spread is that you're still at -2 speed, overall.
these refights are easy af desu
>>735976790Yeah, there should really be more elite modifiers that actually fuck with infinite combos.
collarless is underrated even in the first couple of hours of a campaign just because the stat reductions from half the collars at that point feel so debilitating, particularly for con and spd
>>735976921collarless cheese strats are legit once you get unlocks + breeding setups. you can abuse the fuck out of their OP passives once you get some inherited abilities
Anyone have that image of priority unlocks?
uh so apparently Flesh Shroud + Death Mask destroys your body...
>>735977580Flesh shroud means your kills turn into meatDeath mask makes you kill yourselfIt's consistent
>>735977653>Death mask makes you kill yourselfI did not know Death Mask is applied as damage-on-self, not all "get downed" actions behave this way
I had a perfect colourless burn build. with Toast, Proliferate and Sudden Affliction. Mind Stone reduced Toast cost to 1 mana and Ace of Spades let me play it twice. It was beatiful, and then my entire build got cucked by a random parasite.
>>735977710it doesn't matter lil nigga you still died, it just brings you back to life next round
>>735977778>it doesn't matter lil nigga you still died, it just brings you back to life next roundIt does not bring you back as the body is completely destroyed
>>735977710Doesn't need to be damage on self. I'm pretty sure the skills that down yourself would do the same thing with flesh shroud.
>>735977890pic related + flesh shroud does not destroy your own body tho
>>735977971I stand corrected then. They should make it consistent.
I assume thief is the class that benefits most from luck, right?
>>735976790>AnonymousThey're gonna nerf the shit out of merciless and I could imagine tinfoil hat eventually.
>>735978253hunter benefits more
>>735978253Luck is so good that even comparing classes for it feels pointless, having a lot of it is literally always helpful. Necro is the only class I feel confident running lucklet cats as because it has a special build for it.
>>735976921In the first few hours instead of opting to bring Mage, Cleric, or Necromancer, I often just brought Fighter/Tank/Hunter and a Collarless. I eventually got into the groove of using Cleric and Necro but I legitimately don't think I've taken Mage on a run post Act I and probably won't unless one of their unlocks is broken beyond belief given I'm not interested in 100%
>tfw it's time for 4 gay, inbred cats to go on a suicide mission
Is it possible to get both Pyrophina's and Zaratana's collars in the same save file?
>>735979019No.
I wish the people I have been seeing playing this game for the first time actually read stuff.
>>735978704>they survive and comes back home>immediately pipe them to frankhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po6JPEdv-Ac
>>735979019Nope. Tyler said it was on purpose so he could get a better estimate of how many players picked one or the other
>>735979019Nope.I mean, you can load a backup and then do the other if you want the cheevos, but you still won't have both collars.
>>735979137Sounds like theyre gonna pipe eachother owo
>>735979119You now understand why strategy games are less popular as other genres. A lot of people simply don't want to have to pay attention or think hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIQHePi7k8
>>735979113>>735979150>>735979169Cool thanks, not sure if I want to bother then if I have to start a new file for it. Only have Zaratana's collar left achievement wise.
>>735978051Death Mask also does not state whether you get injured by it (you don't)
>>735979494A lot of tooltips would benefit from clarity and standardization. Especially since MTG was apparently an inspiration, and that's a game well known for being very pedantic on wording and rules.
>>735943573>It's like 1 in 1000After four in game years, yes.
>>735979607steakmund thinks having to find out everything the hard way is essential to the experience and he'd literally die on that hill. it took ages and multiple paid DLCs for isaac to get essential QOL without mods
>>735979867Oh I know. I expect people to be more annoyed by that in a tactics game though, since having information to make good decisions is way more important here.
use case?
>>735980093ranged attacks?
>>735980093
>>735979607>want to gauge my enemies remaing hp and armor directly on the field. This info is blocked by the fuckhuge portrait elementIts annoying. I guess there's the turn order that shows info too, but its such a glaringly bad interface design decision that it hurts the game for me a bit
>>735980093pure magic damage. also you can give the cat the loner gun for an easy run
>>735980169>he doesn't knowranged counts as physical
>>735955447I've done it, it's not antifun yet, but we'll see.I'm also an idiot so it's entirely possible that I'll accidentally throw out the jar or forget to repair it at some point
>>735980169ranged attacks are physical, unless its magic.>>735980093Druid, Psychic, Tinkerer. Bend Spoon or other "your x attacks always hit" will ignore this downside. Pretty strong item IMO.
>>735980373>Tinkerersurely equipped weapons count as physical attacks too?
>>735957343it's cool but it really needs more than just cleric actives (and one fighter passive) to affect it
>>735965960Giving copies of your cats the depressing buff is the game cheating me, it's only fair
>>735980415yes they (most of them) do but Tinkerer with familiars like turrets or bots get around that issue.
>>735966781broken mirror and a blind cat, it'll miss every time
>>735980505ah ok, well I'm doing a techmaxxing tinkerer run right now
anyone who says moonman is hard should be tested for mental retardation
>>735980305>>735980373right, i got it confused with melee.
>>735980093Pretty sure "always hits" on various items or the hunter skill overrides this, easy strong combo. Or just slap it on a psychic/mage/druid, you probably don't care about their attacks that much.
Psyonic Repel doesn't seem to synergize with fish hook sadly
>>735965248holy banger
>>735980671Agreed but he's still 1000x harder then the Coven
>>735980886that's not saying much>oh no he summoned the tormentor!!!!>anyway
>>735966781>Being a mad lad and doing a solo run?solo runs are easier than 4 man runs
>>735980886>kicking a squirrel is 1000x harder than crushing an ant
I went to the past for the first time and reading the reads before made me think the song being Unga bunga was like an easter egg with certain conditions to trigger it. Now I'm just confused.
>>735979150Can i just edit a save file for it. Im not running a game for 10+ hours to get a different achievement
>>735981573https://www.nexusmods.com/mewgenics/mods/212
>>735980886>Paying a janny 1000x as much is still a salary
ROBOTS TRACK YOUROBOTS FIND YOUROBOTS KILL YOU
>>735981736>>735981437>>735981010That's the point There isn't a hard boss in this game
>>735981480The whole "0 int cats hear the real lyrics" thing is a mass psychosis caused by word of mouth on youtube comments
>the buried/throbbing king has nothing to do with isaa-autistic loreschizos, your response?
>>735982226>The Blue King is Edmund>The Throbbing King is TommySeems pretty clear to me.
>>735982226I prefer the theory where it's meant to be Tommy Refenes
>>735982076C-1000 would fuck anyone up who plays the game blind unless you brought no miss gear or mark or are just too cracked to give him more than 1 turn. I still get confused when people say c-800 is harder
>>735981480Playing this game blind is the best way to experience mewgenics when less than 3% of the playerbase unlocked The Infinite. I've seen so much bullshit and false/misinformed information surrounding this game. I've never seen anything like it actually. Maybe Dark Souls on release
>>735982336>>735982337the "fuck you tommy" aspect is obvious, but the character also predates that as is seen with the buried king shit and break his chains. the tommy part is only a singular aspect of the character.break his chains also seems to make reference to the ending of time fcuk when it describes steven/isaac's experience with the box, how all the drawings of his future self are "wandering in the darkness in the world I created, the world I had made for myself".>trapped inside the earth, but really trapped inside himself>there's no escaping this hell that he's made for himself
Honestly beginning to think it's not even weird for Isaac's mom to have been a fucking schizo. Look at the world they lived in. Invaded by aliens, destroyed by kaijus, crawling with zombies and nuclear mutants, cats that have magical abilities, and all the humans seem to be fucked up anyway. Like I can't even blame her anymore for hearing voices in her head and following through with them, their world really is just fucked up. Sheds a completely different light on her character. She's not redeemed, just she doesn't particularly stand out as being a fucked up mom anymore. Everything is fucked up, she's a drop in the bucket compared to the shit Isaac would have to deal with outside anyway. If he didn't die in the box he'd probably become a mutated bunker retard or somoething crying for kitty.
>>735982927and that is my personal issue with this game's "story".The word is insane so tboi's story is almost meaningless. The final final ending still makes me cry but this game makes it believable that almost all children end up like isaac in one way or another. I mean look at Baby Jack...
>>735982921but if break his chains is about isaac then why is it calling him cruel, calling him fearless, what siege is the song talking about? it personally just doesn't make sense to me.
>>735982512I heard stuff about C-1000 but didn't really prep for it.He ended up copying my tank who had immobilize 2 mutation so he was unable to move, kek
>>735980093this is an absurd Psychic buff in pretty much every scenario
did you guys see when "she" got pissed for being called out on balding near the start of the stream?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GL1MqYEaL8M
>>735983279>>735983305everyone is isaac, always has been. you fools thought that only applied to binding of isaac?
>>735972285Give it to a female catOnly male cat charisma matters
Mewgenics lore summary:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMR0Aldn6WU
>>735961557?
>>735983943https://youtu.be/HMR0Aldn6WU
>>735982512I fought all bosses blind, C-1000 fucked me up I just took the Steven hit and redid the fight and won. Though for me I was lucky that I brought a thief who had the refresh movement on picking up a coin and a bunch of coin spawning so I could run out his dodge.
>>735975810I have yet to get a Necro with this. I want to rally an army damn it when will it happen.
>>735978339there's nothing wrong with items being OP because they're never going to last forevernerfing merciless in some fashion would probably be justified though but I dont know how you do that without gutting it, being able to deal damage with your movement action just kind of breaks it fundamentally
>>735984853just make merciless not proc on movement-based damage. tyler mentioned zoomzerk for a reason.
>>735984853>there's nothing wrong with items being OP because they're never going to last forever>he doesn't know about repair
>>735980671I did psychic: vacuum Whole area became floating glassman in the moon ate his own handThen hit the other hand into his faceSomehow he ate glass or something because his bleed proc was massive.
>>735983943>wearing a shirt with zodiac's symbolI can't imagine for who it would be worse if Zodiac used to be jack's kitty
>finally get a perfect psychic solo run>event before the Infinite is the box guy>sneak away>LOL NO GET PSYCHOSIS>psychic reaches Creator but dies as it doesn't reposition from the Child's attackFuck you Steakmund, I'm doing these runs for fun, why are you making me chew the dessert too?
>>735982512>be retarded >throw my retarded jester cleric attack with hard head and backflip skill>literally does nothing to himI didn't even know wtf was supposed to happen.
>>735981835SWITCHBLADE CLAWSTASER PAWS
>>735981010I'm 200h in and I never saw the Tormentor
>>735986039Honestly they should just spawn Tormentor if you kill coven early.
>>735986039I wonder how many anons just found out about the Tormentor because of these threads, the vague boss descriptions don't really help in cases like this
>>735986039You burst down coven on your first run?
>>735986270Unironically, I did, but I also had a retard powerful huntard on my first run.
>>735986270Not him but it's not unexpected.The candles have a total of 250 HP and are spread out all over the place. The coven has 300 and is right there (and takes up 9 tiles, for all those multi-tile abilities)
>>735986039I'm less than 100 in and always see the tormentor.Every time he jobs and doesn't kill a single cat. Including the first time when I didn't fully understand the gimmick and destroyed only one candle.
>>735986270120 hours here, I've been down there like 3-4 times and every time it dies by turn 2. It just summoned frogs and it died I guess. Maybe now that I unlocked the difficulty thing it'll be something more than a pushover.
I can't wait until Bingo and Bongo are in the game.
>>735986270I did it on my first run, and I don't think it's that unreasonable for people to do. He's the only enemy there, why wouldn't you wail on him?Plus you get 3 turns of the boss doing basically nothing, so even without knowing the premise it's plenty of time to burst him down.
>>735986460Hard+ Coven is interesting because every single fly they summon also gets their elite modifier.It's a hilarious clusterfuck.
>>735986270300 damage in 3 turns with absolutely no need to be defensive? Fuck yeah I did. Even on my all collarless run I didn't see the tormentor.
>>735986039>>735986248>>735986460That's bullshit.The Coven has so much HP and by start of round 3 it summons the Tormentor.Round 2, you have a map covered in frogs and flies, being able to deal 300 damage in 2 rounds is not something you get with EVERY build.I can understand some anons getting some absurd bruise, scatter or loop builds the first time, maybe the second, maybe the third even but you're not reliably downing the Coven EVERY SINGLE TIME, come on.You always get Mark AND Scatter Shot?You're always getting bruise builds?You always can deal 300 damage in 2 rounds?I can believe 1 anon in 100+ hours not getting to see the Tormentor but if people do the Core for all the quests and shit, you can't tell me you never saw him: that's not a matter of skill but a matter of RNG.
Are the clones in the creator fight coded as bosses?
>>735986591have you any idea the level of autism anons have here
>>735986591When your cats are born with bruise and extra attack and extra turn it is very easy to focus fire on coven and fuck his shit up turn 2.
>>735986625No, you can kill them with guns and swallow and all the instakill stuff.
>>735986591Retard, you don't need any of that shit, just good damage and reliable stuns. The flies and frogs literally do nothing, you can just ignore them.
>>735986625No, they aren't. I know because I had become entropy and it exploded the good cats
>>735986773and the same applies the other way round too...
>>735986591bro I just spammed scatteshot, it's a 9 tile boss
>>735986270Yeah, I had the mission item that kills them in one hit.
>>735986591Yeah, I don't buy it. Even if you can blast down the coven, would you totally ignore the candles the first time? The very obvious candles with demonic runes that the Coven keeps lighting?
>>735986803Well that's more obvious, your cats aren't bosses.
>>735986986Yeah. I got +100 hours before reaching the core because I went full breeding autism, it was just so fucking fun, leave me alone. But that might explain the coven dies so fast for me every single time, I got perfect 7s and 10 mutations on each cat. My cats kick ass and yours are ass.
>>735986591It's the end of chapter 3, all your cats have an upgraded ability at that point, and you get so much time to set up on him.
>>735986986>would you totally ignore the candles the first time?i did>hovered over them>some bullshit something that doesn't exist yet getting buffedi thought to myself it would be to just end the fight now and kill everything on screen before anything could even happen
>>735986724So every Anon automatically got mutations that add bruise and get extra attacks and extra turns?The human head is an unique mutation, not impossible to get again but it's not that easy, same with the mouth that cause bruises (or the wings).I'm not believing everyone automatically got the best combo of mutations and skills and everything else and the class got the perfect combo and no parasites, no disorders, no cats being down/injured beforehand or receiving a shit mutation that fucked with them.>>735986794300 Damage, you get to act twice and then the Tormentor is there.You're not getting 300 damage every single time.Are you ALWAYS running Hunters?Are you ALWAYS using Fighters?Never a Necromancer? Tinkerer? Mage? Psychic?Does your Cleric always has Open Wounds?You're bullshitting, I don't know why you're bullshitting when it is obvious you're bullshitting but you're bullshitting.The only way you've NEVER seen the Coven is if you file edited your cats to have all the mutations you could want from the get go and automatically got ALL the skills you want from the get go.The Core is ACT 2, you've yet to do Pyrophina even and you already got ultra studs cats?You never had to use a runt with shit RNG?Fuck off.
>>735987086Nevermind, I reread the post. I agree that it's implausible to never see the tormentor after 100+ hours. I was thinking you were saying it's unreasonable to burst down the Coven on your first encounter with it.
>>735986986The vague info the boss has is "he's trying to do his bullshit ritual", to me that just means "kill it before he's done", why would you assume otherwise.
>>735986986>would you totally ignore the candles the first time?i didn't totally ignore them, but i realized i wouldn't have enough damage to kill them before whatever the coven was doing would happen, too late to kill one or kill the coven so i had to fight full power tormentorkilled him pretty easily but whatever
>>735987198You can't always reliably deal 300 damage.Do you always kill Hitler before he transforms into a robot too?Do you always kill Hitler before he shoots himself in the head?Can you reliably kill Lord Bunga before he gets off his throne?The Dreadnaught dinosaur, can you kill him the first time he falls everytime?300 damage in 2 rounds is not something ALL builds can do.
>>735987128He might just be the kind of player that never goes beyond act 1 unless he rolls a hunter with scattershot or bounce, and always takes ranger/fighter as the core of his team.
>>735987282Yes :)
>>735986591I rarely leave the house without a 13 strength fighter/butcher, a inspirational song druid, a chosen warrior cleric and a hunter.
>>735987282do you idiots go with 3 clerics or something
>>735987335me too, it was just a test
>>735986923Scattershot + bouncing arrows my beloved
the "everyone spin attacks" spell sounded cooler in my head
>>735986591I can understand being able to practically one shot him when you're in the endgame, but to never see him because you do it from the first time you reach him seems unbelievable to me. If any of you've managed to do that, props to you anons.
>>735980671Unrealistic, what is the right hand doing in the meantime ?
>>735987128I just did a hard run of the core with a malaria fighter and still no Tormentor on sight. Maybe leech mother druid is too op for the coven.But at least I didn't feel like reaching the rift with a fighter with almost 1hp.
>>735987858Nothing, because the hands do next to zero damage.
>>735987128>Are you ALWAYS running Hunters?>Are you ALWAYS using Fighters?Aren't they mandatory?
>>735987961The only class that I consistently run is Druid.
>>735987961No lol
>>735987128>>735987317or maybe you're just shit and don't know how to draft a good cat? 300 damage in 2-3 turns isn't hard. I've beaten coven with every single class including all collarless, and I have NEVER seen the tormentor. do you not draft stuns? confusion? do you not use items? I'm not even one of those no-lifers doing solo runs and higher difficulties, I only nuked the creator last week; coven is just that fucking easy.
>>735987961>t. got carried by scatter shot
>maybe youre just shit?>yeah i grinded furniture for hours btw
>>735987128Pyrophina was easier, I only used 1 round of 3 cats.
>>735988010and for the record, my favorite most run classes are druid and tinker. rocket turrets with the electric bomb passive is a near-infinite when you line them up along the coven's massive frame.
Anons have been bullshitting in these threads since day 1. This is a totally easy game that doesn't try to fuck you up with rng and no one ever wipes in these thread because everyone played Final Fantasy Tactics: the hardest trpg ever made.
I have over 300 hours in the game and I've never seen Tormentor.I've yet to get past the Desert, I need to wait for perfect cats to breed.
>>735988134This, so much this. This game is literally baby tier, you can just round 1 everything and the RNG can't ever really fuck you over in any way.
>>735988134>t. hasn't unlocked impossible difficulty
>>735988083>I'm not shit, it's everyone else who is shit.>>735988134the sad thing is that the game actually is very hard but people are get caught up on what is one of the easiest bosses in the game like killing a sandbag that does nothing in 3 turns is somehow a challenge.
>>735988134>trpg experts seething when tactics ogre reborn didnt let them grind forever anymoregood times
>>735988134>he isn't doing only solo collarless runs
>>735988010You've never seen the Tormentor because you've cheated or you're lying.You've edited your files everytime you lost a cat, so Steven would not punish you, you edited skills that you wanted, edited mutations that you wanted and edited items that you wanted.That's why you've "never saw the Tormentor".It's incredible how autistic you are about this, I'm just baffled that you morons think anyone believes you, that you just snap your fingers and your Tinkerer is building logs everytime, your Necromancer always get Swarm of Leeches, your Fighter is always running One-Two and never ever do you get injuries, bad parasites or any sort of issue with the whole "dealing 300 damage in 2 rounds".Again, I can believe an anon managed to do it 3 or so times in a row, that can happen, I got lucky and I didn't see Organ Grinder 'till the end of Act 3, just before The Infinite was unlocked, so I can believe people can play good to the point of being able of avoiding losing.But you're not getting a perfect run each time, even if you don't lose there are times you struggle, if you never struggled you've cheated.
>>735987282>Do you always kill Hitler before he transforms into a robot too?The clones scare me too much, I feel they are more dangerous than Hitler himself.
>>735988314That's because they are.
>>735988276i don't think they cheated i just think they did an autistic amount of over-preparing in act 1 to make the rest of the game a breeze and acted like everyone else spent an absurd amount of time in the opening act grinding the meta progression out like they did
