>>735947778
Too Expensive for one thing
I have horrible motion sickness for another, cant even play FPS anymore

Because I'm waiting for Steam Frame and it's no longer "early 2026"

>>735947778
I am, I'm playing Visage and its terrifying.

>>735947821
It's cheaper than a playstation
>>735947848
You know a MQ3 would be way better right

i was going to buy the frame and now i'm considering getting a quest 3 but it looks like that and all of the other alternatives have major caveats. So I don't know what I'm going to do. I just wanted to play resident evil in vr, and then maybe try the golf game. considering a used index.

>>735948049
The Quest 3 is vastly superior to the Index and to pretty much anything at its budget range and even beyond. You need to start tackling $1000+ to find something that rivals it.

>>735948102
ok but the frame looks like it's going to be the same thing with the addition of 'it just werks!'

META has closed down and the Quest is being discontinued. buying one now is a bad idea

>>735948147
I mean it's still good for PCVR, no?

>>735948139
The Frame will be the same thing but way more expensive. Meta is notorious for selling the quest at a huge loss.
>>735948147
Retard

>>735948194
He is trolling. The Quest was not discontinued, Meta obviously did not close down and the quest ecosystem still accounts for like 90% of the VR market so it will stay relevant for a long, long time. And yes it does PCVR.

>>735948197
you can pretend this isnt happening all you want, but meta are closing down their VR projects, one at a time.

>>735947778
just finished beating off

>>735948296
I don't give a fuck. The Quest 3 will be the best budget headset for the next ~5 years at the very least. Meta's investments do not affect me in the slightest.

>>735947848
why? you can get psvr2 for dirt cheap.

>>735947778
it scares me

>>735947778
Steamframe got delayed and now I don't even want it because it's going to cost 1k when I was only willing to spend 650 bucks.

>>735947778
Already played it for 3 hours today.

Is everyone still playing the same shit like vrchat, walkabout minigolf, beat saber, pistol whip, those shitty fps/sword & sorcery games?

Is there anything new and noteworthy? Literally anything

>>735947778
takes too much effort

>>735948461
VR is dead, it was relying on valve to revive it but AI fucked it.

>>735948147
Meta downsized and cut out the Horizon crew, but they're still making new headsets and investing in VR.

>>735948461
No, everything new has been shit. Behemoth was shit, Assassin's Creed Nexus was shit, Vampire: The Masquerade - Justice was shit, Arizona Sunshine 2 was shit. Bamham was the least bad post-covid game and it's only like 7/10

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>>735947778
I am

>>735947778
I literally only want one for porn, and maybe Alyx

>>735948461
virt-a-mate, ms flight sim, uevr stuff like pacific drive, atomic heart, etc

>>735948197
The Frame will be the first standalone capable headset that is running a proper OS, one that's not made to push ads, harvest your data and regulate your behavior.
Not being phoneslop-inspired is a massive benefit.

>>735949914
What makes you think someone won't be able to bootleg the OS into a quest?
Ultimately they use very similar architecture.

>>735949986
I would be glad if they did, since then I could just keep using my Quest 3 with Linux on ARM.
But the Frame already runs Linux and can probably be easily modified, whereas the Quest 3 is locked down and runs Android.

Waiting for the Steam Frame so I can buy it and then leave it on the shelf and never use it

>>735947778
uhm no games i guess
>blade and sorcery/pistol whip/beat saber one
tik tok memes i uninstalled after 15 minutes
>walking dead game
played a couple of hours but motion sickness puts me off and it's not really a game where you should be teleporting
>vrchat
call me a boomer but i don't understand why i should use it instead of going out and drinking a beer or something
>porn games
ALL shit, at least when it comes to standalone ones

the ONLY good vr game is walkabout minigolf, i like it and played it a lot but it's still a shitty golf game at the end of the day. i guess the table tennis one too but it goes into the same bin

also passthrough vr porn is pretty dope but each video is 20gb+ so it's not feasible unless you are a paycuck with a high bandwidth internet connection

>>735947903
how does zuckerberg's boot taste, faggot?

>>735949914
>a massive benefit.
>cannot run any existing non pcvr vr game
>cannot run any existing vr video player
>devs can't just port their software/games they have to rewrite everything from scratch
lol lmao

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Release the Frame, Gabe.
I miss VR shootans.

>>735947778
Waiting for Beat the Beats, haven't been this excited for vr in awhile

>>735951376
Thanks for bringing this to my attention anon. Seems interesting. Any other cool games in the past year?

The major caveat of VR as it exists right now is you need a decent open space or an $800+ treadmill. Without either of these to compliment the headset, it sours the fuck out of the experience. If you can take three steps in any direction without colliding into something, I genuinely wouldn't bother.

>>735951752
*can't take three steps in any direction

>>735951752
This is why I got a standalone headset like a Quest 3. I don't have much open space in my bedroom, but I can play in the living room.

>>735951850
I'm looking forward to the Steam Frame thanks to that dedicated wireless dongle and foveated rendering. Simultaneously solves two major problems.

>>735949914
You’re acting like “proper OS” magically equals success.

>muh no ads
>muh linux
okay and? devs still go where the users are. if the install base is 200k enthusiasts who dual-boot Gentoo for fun, nobody big is going to target it.

The Quest won because it’s cheap and normies can impulse buy it at Best Buy. Not because Android is some visionary masterpiece. If Frame drops at $999 and requires Link-tier PC specs to do anything worthwhile standalone, it’s DOA outside of /vr/ schizos.

I *want* Valve to cook, but “not phoneslop-inspired” doesn’t matter if there’s no ecosystem. Gabe needs another Alyx-tier killer app or it’s just another Index-tier “wow that’s cool” museum piece gathering dust.

>>735951481
Unfortunately none anon, I've honestly just been playing Beat Saber like every other VR owner out there. I did replay this like for the 5th time awhile ago
https://store.steampowered.com/app/751300/Alice_Mystery_Garden/
Shit sucks that there there's nothing else like it other than Moss and kinda wish more JP devs jumped on vr

>>735951039
Lepton will enable it to run existing Android apks.
Killing anything that isn't PCVR is ultimately necessary if the VR scene doesn't just want to constantly lose titles over and over every time some random company loses interest in supporting their storefront and ecosystem.
>>735952148
>You’re acting like “proper OS” magically equals success.
I don't really care about widespread success, normalfags are retarded and will buy ad-sponsored malware devices. I would prefer not to use any device where someone unironically uses the term sideloading to describe any part of it, as if it's a feature that I should be thankful for.
>okay and? devs still go where the users are. if the install base is 200k enthusiasts who dual-boot Gentoo for fun, nobody big is going to target it.
And what do you think that's going to be? The PCVR ecosystem that has been extant since 2014, is compatible with every headset and has compatibility tools for all software, or the random meme storefront that will die in 4 years only to be replaced by a new storefront from the same company?
>I *want* Valve to cook, but “not phoneslop-inspired” doesn’t matter if there’s no ecosystem.
There is an ecosystem, it's PCVR.

>>735948102
its not superior because you need meta account and app to use it
metaverse is closed, zucker saars lost

>>735952313
do they keep destroying mods with updates?
i own beat saber but i used pirated version because offical made me keep reinstaling all songs anew cos those retarded jews trying to make ppl buy they shity pop songs

>>735952774
>existing Android apks.
it's emulation of stock Android and only normal android apps will work (completely useless), you won't be able to run VR apps and games because they require special snowflake VR APIs not available on stock Android.

>>735947778
>Why are you not playing VR right now?
I don't have my Steam Frame (yet). VR is a joke until the Frame release.

>>735952148
>nobody big is going to target it.
Lel cope n sneed. This is what they said about le steam dick. Games aren't made for the deck 80% of the time, but they still run, because of le proton.

And the Steam Frame has android compatibility + x86 compatibility + PC. Everything and moar will run on it. Without zuck snapshotting your dick + room.

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I'm going to continue Townsmen VR after I finish my morning coffee. It's comfy game

>>735947778
my psvr2 headset arrives tomorrow that's why

>>735948147
Buying Quest anyway is bad idea because battery is in-built and difficult to remove. PSVR2 is far more superior.

>>735953168
I think modders just gave up on updating mods kek. Right now the widely known version to be used with mods is 1.40.8 and the last time I tried installing mods for like the last three updates they just straight up don't have support for them

>>735953751
PSVR2 is wired and the wire is bad quality that breaks fast. And it's soldered in

>>735948461
its not new but i like the light brigade a lot. Its a ww1 style fantasy rougelike.
One of the like five vr games i actually bought because i played it so much

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>>735951376
ANOTHER rhythm game where you attack shapes coming at you

Yeah, VR doesn't make sense now. 3D Blu-rays are rare and VR gaming is a meme.
So the only practical use for VR is 3D R34.

>>735948461
Into the radius was completed a few years ago and into the radius 2 is in early access right now.
its got 4 player co-op so i'm really looking forward to it being finished.

can meta shill kun tell me what are the worthwhile meta games? i'm honestly considering buying one for the time being while i wait for a frame.

>>735954000
All I can think of is beat saber, is there really that many shape detroying simulators? I'm mostly excited for Beat the Beat for the shadowboxing exercise aspect

>>735947778
Because I'm waiting for my 40 year old furry e-boyfriend from another country to wake up so we can go watch a movie in VRChat together.

I wish I was joking. Pretty much the only use VR has these days is watching stuff virtually with others. Don't be me, Anons.

>>735947778
I have an abnormally large head (I have to buy the largest size at a hat store specifically for men with large heads) so the odds of me being able to wear a VR headset for an extended period without either developing a serious headache or outright breaking it (has happened to me in the past with headphones) is just too slim.

i need to get a folding bed so i have more room
any time im playing im always too cautious of if im about to punch a wall

>>735952775
Cant it run anything else a VR headset can?

>>735954000
I mean, it makes my 37 yo ass move when normally I would not.

Going to buy a Quest 3 Monday when my wife is at work because im really not trying to use a VR headset when anyone else is in the house

>>735947778
What're some good games for it? I got the Oculus Rift SDK back in the day and played tech demos.
Looking into mirrors and seeing a reflection that was not me was sick. I am interested in Boneworks, though it's a VR weapons testing ground more than anything. What are some good and full games I can play on a VR headset right now?

>>735947778
>vr untouched for a couple weeks while i'm stuck on some normal games
>get a haircut
>back on VR constantly because it's the most comfortable and secure when i'm nearly bald
i believe i'll be playing through HL2VR again. i adore it so much.

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>>735955758
Boneworks is more like a fullbody phsyics adventure game, pic related is more like a vr weapons testing ground

>>735955289
>I wish I was joking. Pretty much the only use VR has these days is watching stuff virtually with others. Don't be me, Anons.
Yes, HMDs are a TV replacement, being upset about that is like being upset that the only thing to do with a TV is sitting on the couch with other people to watch things, since the amount of desirable social interaction would be equal.

>>735955289
Hey can I join you guys. Not really gay or a furry, do want to watch a movie though.

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>get a DMCA for beat saber
>immediately shut down everything
Why did they do it bros?

>>735956237
I don't think he would like that very much since he's been looking forward to us having some time together there for a while but there should be many public lobbies that run random movie viewing sessions there, Anon.

Just pick whatever public group seems to line up best with your movie/tv show tastes there.

>>735954708
robo recall
asgard wrath
batman
7th guest
gzdoom, quake

>>735952775
>metaverse is closed
nobody cares when vrchat exists

>>735957767
some of those are on steam

>>735956263
Oh shit that happened? I didn't know. What a shame, it was so convenient. Just took a look at r/QuestPiracy and apparently another one is being set up right now.

>>735954708
Resident Evil 4, Puzzling Places, Real VR Fishing, Metacity Patrol, pretty sure the 3DS emulator is Quest exclusive.

>>735958582
https://github.com/amwatson/CitraVR
Would need to port it to PCVR but the code is out there
Apparently she's a former oculus employee that worked on air link

>>735947778
I'm taking a break, just finished milking my friend in VRChat

>>735958114
razexr (duke3d) is quest exclusive

>>735947778
My headset's been put away for ages since I never really had any space to play anything substantial. Now that I have a more open play area I might dust it off and give Alex a shot. Hopefully my Odyssey + will still work alright because I remember WMR being a little funky back then.

>>735953815
dude that stuff is still more replaceable than the battery which can result into real bad hazards
if you don't like PSVR2 then get any other battery free VR headset
it's always lighter, and good for longer hours

>>735959115
>WMR
i dont have the heart to tell him...

>>735959153
>battery
literally a nothingburger, quest sticks will drift way before the battery goes bad

>>735959227
that there's a third party driver for WMR headsets and steam installs it automatically?

>>735948461
I've been saying for years that it doesn't matter how good the hardware and visual fidelity gets with VR because next to nothing is happening on the software side.
It has been stagnant with very little worth playing coming out since HL: Alyx. All the best games came out seven years ago and you're lucky if you get maybe one legitimately good game each year.
I want VR to take off more than it has because I think it's super cool but I just don't it happening anymore.

>>735959693
problem is only rhythm and shooters feel good in vr
its impossible to have weighty realistic melee combat the best you can get away with is gorn and that game falls apart if you just flail your arms around
its like eyetoy you have to gimp yourself to enjoy it

>>735959693
>next to nothing is happening on the software side.
gaussian splats happened and I can create life size vidya girl captures to goon

>>735947821
remember all the money you've saved on not having a girlfriend and the porn you've pirated and will keep pirating. VR is cheap.

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>>735959763
>only rhythm and shooters feel good in vr
wrong

>>735947778
I want the ps5 vr and im getting it within a couple months

>>735947778
Is this just market research? God you people are lazy

i just wish i could get a vr treadmill
they all seem to work like shit though and its more like sliding your feet than simulating walking

>>735960286
it looks like the technology isn't there and I can't imagine a way to make it ever feel decent.

>>735960286
get a large space and learn redirected walking

>>735959230
desu I've seen about sense controllers as well particularly left controller going bad early or not charging at all
at least replacements are available now

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>>735947778
i know if my parents see me playing it they will become depressed
maybe when i move out

>>735959693
>Nothing happening on the software side
Eh, that's like saying that LCDs won't take off after CRTs without anything on the software side. An HMD is a new paradigm of displays, it doesn't exist just for the hardware gimmick.
Sure the HDMI forum and major tech consortiums heaped fuel on the fire by deliberately sabotaging media and ecosystem to fuck with CRTs and kill them faster, but they would've been replaced eventually.

Now that Linux compatibility is better we're getting actual lasting development of proper user interfaces and desktops that basically stagnated after the first wave of consumer VR launched with zero Linux compatibility (Even though Oculus promised Linux support on release and instead just doubled down by neutering Windows 7 support for more Microsoft cash).

Waiting for the development of games from the industry is pretty much not going to happen, since the industry can barely put out games for flat gaming and flat devices are surfing on inertia that VR just doesn't have. I think development will really have to come from grassroots enthusiast shit.

>>735947778
I'll think about it when the steam frame releases

>>735947778
it'll never not be a gimmick

>>735947778
My Index is falling apart, so I'm only taking it out occasionally. Waiting for the Frame.

>>735960747
No, its like saying 3d TVs wont take off without anything on the content side and it didn't because there were no 3d movies worth watching. CRTs and LCDs are fundamentally consuming the exact same media, VR is more compelling than 3D TVs but they are fundamentally the same in that they need new tailor made content to succeed.

VR didn't need immediate mass adoption either, it needed a hardcore but sustainable userbase that could grow compelling VR experiences, facebook nuked that ecosystem and its probably irrecoverable now, in exactly the same way the mobile app market is a nuclear wasteland that will never re-grow. Valve was the last hope but hardware prices have pre-emptively destroyed that initiative and I don't see them trying again.

>>735960747
Except HMDs are objectively inferior to LCDs when it comes to consuming flat content. They are uncomfortable, the quality is inferior, you depend on either a lackluster battery or being plugged into an energy supply, it heats up your face which may lead to sweating depending on the temperature...

And you do all this for what? Merely emulating the LCD experience with little to no advantages at all other than circumstantial stuff most people would object to, like:

>but you can watch netflix while washing the dishes
Or you can use that moment to listen to music, a podcast, or maybe just chill for a few minutes.

>instead of looking at my ugly bedroom I can place myself in any environment!
Or maybe you could put some effort into improving your bedroom which would feel way more rewarding than using VR to create a fake room.

And so on. The VR disadvantages are deal breakers for 99% of people, the advantages are extremely circumstantial and arguably only work to push a worse health style of being glued to a screen even in the few situations you'd be incentivized to not do that.

>>735964575
What a faggot response. None of those things are true unless you're a faggot who listeners to NPR radio and never does anything fun.

>>735964745
Only faggot response is yours who put no effort in demonstrating how HMD can be superior. All you did is whine that my reply hurt your feelings.

>>735963972
>3D TVs
These were always a meme, because 3D movies were always gimmicky garbage that no one really wanted.
>CRTs and LCDs are fundamentally consuming the exact same media
HMDs can also consume the exact same media if needed.
>VR is more compelling than 3D TVs but they are fundamentally the same in that they need new tailor made content to succeed.
VR can play actually compelling content unlike 3D TVs and it still has a niche even if all it can do is exactly what standard displays can already do.
>VR didn't need immediate mass adoption either, it needed a hardcore but sustainable userbase that could grow compelling VR experiences
Yeah, Linux, modding and gay ERP, which is why Faceberg completely failed to capture that userbase.

>>735963972
3d tvs can barely handle 30 fps. The tvs are absolutely holding 3d back at this point. And all content is 3d now. You literally just stick a video in one end and 3d comes out the other end. Any content at all. Tv is barely a fraction of the 3d range VR is

>>735947778
because i'm not a gay autogynophile tranny faggot assed retarded nigger, cocksucker

>>735964778
I'm not the one contracted by tv hardware suppliers trying to keep their investors from panicking that the entire physical tv market is about to disappear overnight

>>735964887
>3d tvs can barely handle 30 fps
And what is the frame rate of movies?

>>735947778
I've been playing hitman pcvr, janky jeety piece of shit.
>>735947821
>I have horrible motion sickness for another
sucks to suck, I never had any motion sickness of any kind

>>735954269
Check out ai 2d to 3d converters. You entire pirated collection is already almost 3d. Takes less than a day for full movie length.

>>735965174
Your shitty licensed version or my 60fps and upscaled 3D version?

>>735953751
>difficult to remove
But? We all use battery banks as a counterweight on the back, especially with a halo strap. Everyone complaining about comfort are using the elite strap style and have to use the faceplate. Halo you can remove the faceplate and have full airflow plus nothing touching the face. Currently can only do that with the quest 3 due to the lenses.

>>735965367
>he thinks he is smart for ruining his movies with fake frames
What a fucking retard. TVs have had an option to do that for like 15 years. It's just hidden in the menu because who the fuck would want to do that other than when watching sports? The frame rate of movies is the way it is for a reason.

>>735965521
Halo doesn't work for active games. Which is the entire point of VR. You can't even play Beat Saber with it. I fell for that meme strap because no one told me it is meant for people that want to be sitting 24/7. At which point why even use a battery? Just plug a cable and you're done.

>>735965581
Just because your chinezio LG smart tv says interpolation doesn't mean its real interpolation. Yours are fake frame because they "do it" instantly. Real interpolation take a shit ton of processing. Your TV is basically a phone with a larger screen.

>>735965705
It might have a problem with blowjob simulator 5 if you the throat goat but fps users have no problem with it.

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>>735965761
>you're actually serious

Bump so the tv shill can get paid