>test out the waters for a classic+>instantly add retail abilities, dailies, difficulty modesdo you honestly think that nuWoW blizzard can create a good classic+?
>>735949939original vanilla was fun when they were still doing class revamps and new dungeons. it probably won't be the same but 1.12 is overly solved, i can't see how another fresh would be better
>>735949939It's literally the only thing they could make that would interest me so they might as well make it.
imagine being the goyim that spent money to play this shit game monthly
>>735949939>do you honestly think that nuWoW blizzard can create a good classic+?Turtle makes good content but their class design team isn't good. Like i'm glad they reverted bloodthirst from damaging the warrior but how fucking narrow minded can you be into thinking that this is even a remotely good idea.
the thing they'll get wrong about classic+ is not making it evergreen. they'll call it Season of Diversity and will plan for it to only exist for a maximum of two years until the next thing comes. classic+ should be a permanent alternate version of WoW that keeps the vanilla feel while adding full content patches or even expansions that have nothing to do with retail
>>735949939I miss early SoD. Best wow experience in over a decade.
This dogshit is so fucking slow and boring. Imagine wasting your time and money playing this outdated slop game when superior games have existed for decades
>>735954171nah, classic isn't popular enough for that to happen.
>>735949939I know a lot of people hate it but, I feel that m+ in retail would really fix a lot of its problems and bring life to dungeons you'd never do again after lvl 18. And yes, what is wrong with harder raids for the ones people have been doing for the past 20 years? Naxx was deemed to be undoable even on hardcore and people have been farming it the moment it came out. As much as people love to suck classic off, it had no hard content. It had braindead people
blizzard cannot catch up with turtle wow's classic+, it's too late
>>735949939SoM and SoD were iterations.>SoM tests iteration upon existing raids to see how the challenge and experience of the encounters can be improved upon in ways the playerbase will enjoy>SoD takes those lessons and creates several raids and 5 man's which are enjoyed by the majority while adding hard modes to later raids>SoD iterates upon alterations to existing class balance by adding abilities to fill gaps, create new roles, improve upon player-discovered playstyles and does so without actually changing the default classes or their talents thru creating an easy to understand and easy to modify rune systemAm interested to see what the next Seasonal server decides to toy with as its primary focus. Right now seasonal servers are basically spitballing to see what people like and dont like based on engagement and popular opinion.
>>735954745Go play a pvp game if you want it to be harder
>vanillaI stopped caring. The original vision will never be recreated and everyone is different now including the og devs. You're chasing a romantic memory. It's time to let go, anon...
>>735955459I'd be thrilled with even the shittiest blizzard made classic+ if it weren't for the players.The problem is the optimization mindset of the community, that can't be fixed.
>>735949939I doubt anyone involved with wow these days can make anything good.A friend of mine is playing the new expac and based on what he's been saying I can't expect anything from microsoft blizzard.
>>735949939>>instantly add retail abilities, dailies, difficulty modesAnd the retaerded classicniggers loved it
>>735949939This was fun as fuck initially, but Blizzard being Blizzard they naturally found so many ways to fuck it up. Like that Ashenvale PvP event could've been great but they made it basically a lesser version of AV. I quit when they forced server transfers, lost like half my guild including real life friends
>>735949939>hunters broken as fuck the entirety of the SODWas a great time.
>>735954562all of sod was good i hate mouth breathers
>>735949939This is what the people want, retail lite but easier.Actual vanilla fans are an irrelevant minority, Brack was right.
>>735955689Those same retards are already poisoning turtle with their bullshit. New realm opened like half a year ago is full of blizzard tourists that brought the absolute worst mentality with them. I have absolutely zero hopes for blizzard classic+ even if it does happen solely because of community.
>>735955459it's not complicated though. all they'd have to do at the absolute minimum is add a few new instances to complete with new encounters/gear and lots of people would probably return to play>scarlet crusade raid>stratholme raid>some dungeon in tanaris>new battleground>something in azshara etcwhat is even sacred about molten core/bwl? speedruns?
>>735949939Doesn't matter. You retards will eat that shit up anyway.
Classic was a let down because people were playing a game they had already played.It was solved, you got a quest and you immediately knew where the item was, or what special NPC to kill.You knew that questing was an inferior way of levelling up, or even worse you knew that by lvl 60 your "optimal" raid build was some pigeon holed shit that wasn't PvP viable so you were paying 50g re specs just to keep up.Then you had people demanding BiS items at 60 and everything has the fun sapped from it
>>735949939>retail abilities, dailies, difficulty modesYou have clearly never played retail if you think SOD was even close to it lol
>>735958205I remember one/two shotting niggas in PvP with my scorpion pet and then the thunderhawk after they nerfed that.
>>735959637It was closer than it should be.
