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Based?
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>>735958340
Should’ve made a game that learned from the mistakes of 1 instead.
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But it's not a tendie game?
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>>735958340
I think DD sucks balls, but based take still
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>>735958340
Based
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>>735958340
>>735958397
>heh, maybe this games not for YOU, chuds!
>wait why does nobody like the game?
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>>735958442
I can still appreciate a vision, even if its a bad one over making a soulless slop thats just copy of someone else's existing ideas.
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>>735958340
Should have made a game that runs at over 20 FPS and designed to be enjoyed by a human being.
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>>735958563
>making a soulless slop thats just copy of someone else's existing ideas.
Bro... paki-kun.... that IS dragons dogma 2
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It would be based if the game was finished.
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Well, if you look at most of the criticism, people wanted more content variety and snappier controls like Dogma 1, so he's not wrong in the sense that the people who did like the game didn't want it to be anything else, just more complete.
So depends on the context I guess, if he's deflecting criticism in general saying this, then he's wrong, most of the criticism is indeed coming from DD fans, but if he's being asked about general design things and making it more accessible like fast travel and shit, then he's right.
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>>735958340
>Makes a game designed not to appeal to tendies
>Ends up not appealing to anyone
Weird
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>>735958340
>ultimately fired from company

Dat negative nintendo karma man.
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>>735958340
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>>735958850
Dogma 1 had fast travel thoughbeit
Just goes to show slop defenders do not play vidya
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> doesnt appeal to nintendo fans
> game is so easy you can play it blindfolded
What the fuck is he talking about?
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>>735960080
Itsuno fell for his own hype just like kojima did
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>>735960080
>> game is so easy you can play it blindfolded
Nintendo games are brutal by modern standards, and always were
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>>735958340
>choppy framerates and bugs is not for everyone :)
/v/ sure knows to pick their devs to worship
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DD2 was good and I'm tired of tortanic faggots who do not play games screaming about it.
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>>735958340
that sounds like cope
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>A nintendo game
Perhaps he just meant a finished product?
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>>735961062
Just because it was good doesn't mean it was without flaws. The lack of enemy variety and the absurd limitation on only 4 skills are legitimate problems.
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>>735961851
no one said it was without flaws, faggot
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>>735958340
He also didn't design a game to be liked by DD fans either, it seems. DD2 is a game designed for no one.
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>>735959963
the fast travel in 1 was extremely limited, unless you are one of those fags who just used the eternal ferrystone
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>>735958340
DD2 was SHIT, DMCV was also bad btw
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Crimson Desert has stolen the show. No DLC can save DD2 anymore. It's a lesser game.
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>>735958340
but he made nintedo performance
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>>735962761
Asmongold loved and praised it
Many alt right streamers and influencers too
It even sold 3m first month and became one of Capcom's core franchises
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>>735960697
No. I'm sure he has some part in it but Capcom as a company has been making all their games braindead easy across every IP they can. How Wilds turned out should be more than enough proof that this is an issue with the company at its core. They are back in their "we want the Call of Duty audience" phase so they want their games braindead both mechanically and difficulty wise so it appeals to as many people as possible.

They are a company that is entirely ignorant of their own history and why they were so successful.
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>>735962942
>became one of Capcom's core franchises
Yea, right. Where's DD3? Where's the DLC?
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>>735958340
Funny because I do think he made a game trying to appeal to everyone
>extremely boring and more generic story with all of the first half being shitty politics that goes nowhere with a token nigger
>anything interesting with the pathfinder, past arisens and Gran Soren being extremely lacking, in the background and rushed
>armor system simplified
>very few enemy types all very generic
>no loli pawns because this needs to be more like a family friendly Nintendo game
Probably the worst thing to double down on and the worst way to double down on it.
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>>735962942
I don't give a flying fuck what some sub-human retard streamer thinks and you should honestly kill yourself for even bringing it up.
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>>735958340
has anyone from the dev team ever talked about working with the RE Engine?
I can totally see being saddled with that becoming a massive time sink just trying to get the game to run
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>>735963050
Worked great for mh rise
If anything they made better companion ai than dd2 paws. And don't forget, originally dd2 should have come before sunbreak
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>>735963139
>Worked great for mh rise
a game developed for the Switch and no open world
how did it work out for Wilds?
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>>735962782
You just put the fast travel markers in key spots and its incredibly useful
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>>735963139
Rise was more limited in scope than DD2. Rise maps were smaller than World maps. They did what they needed to do to get 30 FPS on the Shitch. DD2 is the first and only true open world game on RE Engine.
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>>735962942
>Many alt right streamers and influencers too
Such as?
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>>735963294
>Rise maps were smaller than World maps
This one is a lie, dunno why would you ever feel telling lies like that on the internet
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Which creature would you keep as a pet? For me it's a cyclops. Specifically the one that flops on the bridge and goes to sleep.
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Is he fucking serious? We must be losing something in translation here. All the problems everyone has with DD2 stem from the fact that it was obviously UNFINISHED.
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>>735963339
I don't think it is. Even if they were of comparable size there's less "muh ecology" stuff going on in Rise so there's not as big a need for more powerful hardware. Point is Rise is not an apples to apples comparison. It's like asking why RE Engine works for hallways simulator games like RE and DMC5 but struggles on DD2.
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>>735963430
my pet is whatever this thing I made is
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>>735963495
>I don't think it is
No one cares what the fuck you think. Are you like retarded or something?
People only care about facts.
Rise maps bigger
>In general size
>Are actually open unlike world's corridors
Like in all possible metrics you could think about, outside of "muh feelings"
> there's less "muh ecology"
Not Rise problems, it's not like DD2 simulates behavior of monster camps far away from you. That's only mh world and wilds problem, dunno why are you bringing it as something that related to dragon's dogma discussion, or mh rise discussion
>Point is Rise is not an apples to apples comparison.
Pretty sure it is, and just shows how incompetent Itsuno is. Especially with some parts in human kingdomgulty of being like 20 minutes long straight road
It actually is
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>>735958340
Is it true the DG2 is a build like a remake until you unlock the final ending and the real DG2 is actually the epilogue and onlike like 5 hours long? Cause if so that spunds way too avant garde in a very retarded kind of way.
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>>735960697
Difference being Kojima makes ludo after ludo, this nigga has been riding on the coattails of DMC3 for 20 years now, with his fanbase going "no you dont get it, he will get it next time".
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>>735964016
kinda
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>>735964108
Kojima made nothing good between MGS3 and Death Stranding.
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>>735963026
You and I are brothers, I came here to type up comparable but you beat me to it.
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>>735964108
Difference is, Itsuno wasn't buttdevastated for not getting game oscare
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>>735958340
Name a bigger heel turn than Itsuno.
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Zased....
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>>735958340
except he did though because he censored it into the ground and removed lolis making it as generic as possible for mass appeal
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>>735964108
>Kojima makes ludo after ludo
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no it's cope
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>>735963461
>>735961506
These.
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>>735958340
KINOshita will fix his game just like he did with Dark Arisen
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>>735958692
Worse still, because the copy was of his own fucking game (and it was worse)
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>>735958340
Cope, fucking disgusting lying gook
People didn't dislike the game itself, people disliked how fucking shit it was because there is fuck all in it
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>>735965002
Fuck off, he clearly put a lot of effort and love into it
Bet you lvoe soulless ubisoft games, because they have 'content"
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>>735959625
I would play a game like this
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>>735958340
>instead, makes a game that no-fucking-one likes
LOL BASTED!
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>>735958340
>"I didn't make a Nintendo game"
He's 100% correct, he put out an unfinished game that barely runs.
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>>735966230
Bet you think that you are funny/
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>>735958340
So he made a game that not even dragons dogma 1 shills hates?
People only like the first game because of the dlc that he didn't even work on
Itsuno is a hack
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>>735967690
>So he made a game that not even dragons dogma 1 shills hates
What did you mean by this
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>>735958340
I dont think that was the reason people didnt like the game itsuno I think you retreading old ground was the reason for your fuckup. the stabilty issues didnt help either though.
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>>735966230
>that barely runs
poorfags and their toasters eternally seething
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>>735958340
>decent
Combat
>from shit to mind-numbingly boring/mediocre
Everything else
So who is a game like that for?
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>>735958340
Reminds me if this.
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>>735959963
>>735963256
dd1 fast travel was a super expensive resource that wasnt really available basically at all except for one time quest rewards (at least before post game)
dark arisen (itsuno didnt work on) added the eternal ferrystone and IIRC literally more than doubled the number of port crystals you could pick up, and added one to cassardis

none of this is to say that itsuno is a good designer, because he isnt, just that the idea that dd1 "had fast travel" isnt consistent with itsuno's vision of the game, nor what he actually developed
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>>735972508
As we saw with dmc, itsuno's vision is worth less than an indian toilet
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>>735961062
its such a middling experience
i like "playing" the game, but it has so many caveats that you cannot ignore and are forced to work around to have a decent play session
>have to install a mod to remove the horrible stagger balancing (enemies can stun you in a downed state for up to 10 seconds straight where you have no control)
>game is filled with metric fuck tons of missable content
>this is somewhat remediated by having NG+ that resets the game state and lets you try again
>except that the main story is extremely long and going anywhere takes forever unless you have port crystals and tons of ferry stones stocked up
>exploration is almost 100% finding new environments and doing really precariously staged quests because the game runs out of enemies 10 minutes in
>you cant even have cool rewards like gear for exploration because you can always 100% buy the absolute strongest piece of equipment available to you from whatever the most recent vendor is, even all the way up to the items that used to be rewards for finishing the final boss (like the dragon's dogma sword) now being relegated to "post game currency shop"
>the upgrade system got really needlessly complicated despite there still being an objective "best" upgrade style (dwarven for stagger bonuses, the downside of higher weight is completely negated by dragonforging cutting the equipment weight in half)
>dragonforging no longer being a process where you kill a dragon to strengthen your gear, just another shop interaction
>every class feels unfinished because of lack of available skills or foundational hole in gameplay style (no defensive options for archer or mystic archer at all) if you get attacked you are just fucked and put down the controller until pawns come to save you
>performance issues 2 years after launch

its "fun to play" once you move past a bunch of non starters that would completely ruin another game, but this one is riding on so much nostalgia that it gets a pass
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>>735958340
Why wouldn't people like it? DD2 had everything!
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>>735958340
Instead he made a game to fulfill a release schedule and financial quarter that disappointed a lot of people that weren't expecting a "Nintendo game"
Maybe it'll get redeemed slightly with a DLC but I don't see any way it makes the game better than DD1/DA
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>game is so easy you can play it blindfolded
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>>735958340
He should have made a game designed to be liked by people who liked the first one
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>>735958340
It wouls be if he FINISHED THE FUCKING GAME
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>>735958340
He has that Marathon mentality, a true gamer.
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>>735958340
super based!
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>>735958385
do you really not understand what he's saying you fucking low IQ retard? definitely american



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