Fallout 3 is Kino
>>735964485This was badass
>>735964485New Vegas is better
>>735964695lol, no
>>735964695
>>735964756>>735964768western's are just cooler
>>735964485I'm playing TTW right now, and Fallout 3 map is genuinely more fun to play than New Vegas.
>>735964485It makes resetera and leftists seethe.
>Fallout 3 is Kino
>>735964695ha
>>735964695>New Vegas is betterAnd they only required literally everything Bethesda built.
>>735966686god fallout 2 is such an insult
>>735964695You know you're right when you have so many seething replies
>>735966686Fallout and Fallout 3 are definitely related atmosphere, aesthetics and tone wise. But fucking fallout 4? Nigger what?>>735967359Fallout 2 started the redditification of the franchise. It might honestly be the wackiest CRPG ever created and it still expects you to take it seriously while it breaks 4th wall for the 50th time this session.
>>735967463>theybet you most of them are one guy too
Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3 were the last kino Bethesda writings before Emil lost his mind
>>735964695I love both Fallout 3 and New Vegas for different raisins. 3 has great art design, aesthetics and atmosphere, fun random encounters and exploration and 2 cool DLCs. New Vegas improved upon all the quests and added new features. We never would've gotten NV without 3.
>>735967862Morrowind: Bloodmoon*
>>735967862>morrowmid>oblivimid>fartout 3>kino
>>735967862Yeah. I enjoyed Skyrim but the quests were just so terrible, especially the guilds. And then after that Bethesda gave up on quests entirely. Fallout 4 is a damn looter shooter.
>>735964695>New Vegas is betterGame played 90% the exact same. How is it better? Because you have a bunch of liberal faggots (literally Arcade Ganon) monologuing towards you?
>>735967987New Vegas trannies can never explain how the game is better or why it's so "good", they only blindly say it's good because they heard it from someone else, mostly from 10 hour Youtube essays.
>>735967987>>735969137you have this real cool thing called actual choices in new vegas
>>735964695Sisterssss
I have trannies-seething-about-bethesda fatigue
>>735969137Fallout 3 is compromised by bad actors, it's a known fact for example if you are eating at a restaurant and i take a shit on your pizza, the said pizza is compromised, unclean there is no debate i cant say "hold on now, wait a minute, now let's not jump to black and white framing, there's a slice there untouched go ahead and eat it" no. it's filthy, dirty, corrupt, broken. there is no nuance. you wouldn't eat the remaining pizza. or if you do eat it, the room still smells like shit and nothing can change that. when i open fallout 3 it smells like shit
>>735969310The only choice you actually make is which powerpoint presentation slideshow do you want at the end of the game after you have an epic 10 NPC battle at the Hoover Dam.
>>735969651>food analogy
>>735969651Yeah but your favorite meal is literally made from the same stock as the shit pizza. You aren't even making an argument for why New Vegas is different. Don't tell me why I shouldn't play 3. Tell me why I should play NV.
>>735969670first of all, the battle at the end of fallout 3 is just watching a robot kill 10 npcs for you because bethesda doesn't like you being the main character in their games. also the only option you have in fallout 3's story is two; do you wanna poison everyone? yes/no?do you wanna kys? yes/no?
>>735969764The game is good because some random tranny said so even though the game has some of the shittiest graphics, combat, exploration, animations along with an unfinished mediocre story propped up by faggots who have never read a book in their life.
>>735964695spbp
>if i say le magically tranny word people will suddenly stop playing fallout new vegasit'll never work
>>735967885NV also had better writing, worldbuilding, and roleplaying. But indeed 3 deserves credit for making the series popular
>>735970132Merely saying New Vegas is basically synonymous as saying tranny at this point. They're the same.
>>735967987>Armor rating >ammo types>town rep>casinos>Fallout 1&2 musics>vaults that aren't le gary>dlcs that are connected to each others as well as the base game> threatening super mutants>skill checks that you can't savescum>companion wheelFrom the top of my head. It's been more than 10 years since I've played NV though. You can add to the list yourself.
>>735970251yeah except everyone says this about the games they want to fail now, the problem is fnv has stayed winning for 16 years
>>735970132You should stop acting like trannies if you don't want people to keep noticing, then
>>735964485Fallout 76 is more kino
>>735970334the only one acting like a tranny is you everytime someone says they like new vegas you seethe an entire thread about it
>>735966646Poor guy
>>735964695This. Btw I'm a transwoman
The Goodsprings and Primm questlines are just a rehash of the Big Town questline from Fallout 3.
>>735970481>difference the taste of their players saaaars
>>735970581Here's your complimentary New Vegas injection, sister.
>>735970664thank god i never touched new vegas or otherwise i would have ended up as a faggot
>>735967862The writing for Oblivion and Fallout 3 were both shit. Only Morrowind had good writing, and Emil was not the main writer behind it, which is very telling.
>>735970780but you did?
>>735970780It's the inevitable fate of all Troon Vegas players, just like speedrunners.
The same people that tell you that New Vegas has a good story are the same people that made Fallout: The Frontier. Let that sink in.
Killing commies should be a human right.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGaosBHdFMA
>>735971225all of the fnv community made fun of that mod though ya tard
>>735969764You're defending a pizza covered in SHIT on a lovely Sunday afternoon, fool. Is this who you are?
>>735970664>white hands every time
>>735964485That was the most fucking stupidest part in the game.
>>735970373>"N-No, you!"I know I shouldn't expect convincing arguments from people who were convinced to lop off their penis by a video game, but this is truly pathetic
>>735971645The Frontier devs which comprised mostly of trannies, furries, and pedophiles are still part of the FNV community and it only further proved that none of these "people" should be taken seriously.
I miss when New Vegas discussion was possible on /v/.
>>735972354You can always hop in the Discord with the other Troon Vegas sisters.
>>735964485Fallout 3 remake will miss the point of this scene
>>735964695So true NV sister!
>>735964485TRVKE
>>735964695true
>>735971940>if i say fnv is a tranny game enough times maybe people will stop playing it!now that is what's actually pathetic
>>735972840>fnv is a tranny gameThat is common knowledge at this point.
>>735972840fnv is not just a tranny game, it is THE tranny game
>>735970304Even with those things you are still spending 90% of the time walking to quest markers and looting/talking to/killing npcs or items. They're the same game. I've played them both.
>>735972840I feel like the Fallout 3jeet started calling the game a tranny game, everyone joined in ironically for shits and giggles, and were eventually irony poisoned.
>>735972840tranny
>>735973234>Meanwhile in reality
>>735971405would
>>735973234no faggot, everyone got sick and tired of FNV fags huffing their own farts which naturally led to mockery
>>735973343This, New Vegas trannies sure do love to masturbate themselves for playing a Fallout 3 expansion pack.
>>735964856ThisFallout 3 is the better game but new vegas has better writing in most placesI think the reason NV more is popular online is fallout 3's low key assumption of Catholic culture and homo/transphobic microagressions
>>735973186Okay, so by that logic starfield and borderlands are also the same as those two games. Crimson desert as well.
2011 /v/ would weep seeing this godforsaken thread.
3 and NV share the same harmonica model
>Oblivion with gunsIt was shit
>>735973549>implyingThis is a dude from a faction you can align yourself with in New Vegas.
>>735973549Writing is still only one part of the game alongside graphics, combat, and exploration all of which is done better in Fallout 4.
>>735972840Fallout 3 won. You eat shit pizza
>>735973821>ESLWhy is India obsessed with these games?
>>735967862>Oblivion and Fallout 3>kino
>>735973860Better world better guns better atmosphere better legs better first person view more mod more optimize
>>735972915>>735973008>>735973258>>735973821holy mother of seething samefag, this is the actual troon behavior>inb4 le epic 4chanx screenshot to totally prove me wrong
>>735973958what the fuck is this shitskin even trying to say lmao
>>735973643What are you talking about zoomer, NV was shat on during release especially when none of the garbage DLCs had been released, some of the main compaints off the top of my head were:>Brown and Bloom>Fallout 3 expansion pack>Cawadooty iron sights that are less accurate than hip firing the gun>Unfinished and buggy as shit with the game constantly bricking saves and crashing especially on the PS3It was seen as a lazy cash grab until a couple hipster psueds started saying the game was all of a sudden a masterpiece a decade later because it was their baby's first Fallout game and after everyone started shitting on Skyrim.
>>735972354If you'd just kept the discussion amongst yourselves instead of insufferable cunts to everyone else, it would've. Alas, though you deny your sex you cannot your nature, and here we are.
Fallout 3 is like Fallout 4 but worse
>>735972840This is not an argument and you are not a woman
>>735973640Yeah, basically. Open world RPGs. They are all the same same genre.
So sick of these historical revisionist faggots pretending we EVER accepted NV filtch with this board. Never was happening.
>>735974056>playing anything on a ps3kek
>>735973740>Fallout 4A fellow chad, I extend my hand in friendship.
>>735970304Lets not pretend like New Vegas has more than one good DLC, no one is itching to replay fucking HH and OWB, and Lonesome Road is pure tedium while listening to a retard with no salient point monologue.
>>735974056Other than the bugs which is a valid issue I don't remember any of that, people who enjoyed Fallout 3 could enjoy the gameplay and people who didn't like 3 for the story were happy with it being improved
>>735970304>>dlcs that are connected to each others as well as the base gameReally? Tell me when the games makes sense for me to leave the Mohave? The sense of urgency in this game is just as nonsensical as in Fallout 4. >sure, the legion will attack the hoover damn any minute now>this seems like a good time to go to utah
>>735973643>It's /v/'s favorite game so that must mean it's my favorite game!NPC behavior.
>>735964485You know you're right when you have so many seething replies
>>735974240so true these people are all bloody bastards sir
>>735964485>WHOA BIG LASERIs this really all you need to impress zoomoids?
>>735974527That's the best part. Op didn't say Fallout 3 is Kino and NV is trash. He just said, "Fallout 3 is Kino." New Vegas Trannies once again prove they don't care if you like NV they just get asspain that you like other things.
>>735974187this is not an argument and you are not a man
>>735974621NV trannies truly are the vegans of gaming.
>>735974527>>735974621more people responded to the guy saying new vegas is better, actually probably not more people it's probably just one seething faggot lol
>>735974527>>735964695>the New Vegas post has more replies, most of which are absolutely seethingIn some way, I think you're right.
>>735967885Fallout 3 is best when wandering about, enjoying the atmosphere, the dungeons, and the world in general.Fallout New Vegas is a more linear narrative-focused game mainly about doing quest after questBoth are great, but are fun for different reasons
>>735974621TRVKEEveryone thinks New Vegas trannies are a bunch of whiny faggots after the show.
>>735974697fallout new vegansa new antimeat faction murder people who eat meat and use their bodies as compostthey use seeds as currency none of them use melee because their bodies are very weak
>>735974621>>735974790holy mother of samefagging
>>735967987I love Fallout 3 too, but NV is an upgrade in many ways>Better shooting mechanics>So many more, awesome weapons to enjoy>Way more quests with more variety of types of quests>The Hardcore mode>Companions are so much better>Crafting>GamblingAnd that's ignoring the more subjective things like how the story and writing of New Vegas is often preferred for focusing on realism rather than atmosphere, and the really interesting setting of the Mojave
>>735969310There are tons of choices in Fallout 3.(Ignore the New Vegas side of this image, it's just b8) Basically every quest has many different ways to resolve it, often being quite dynamic with how you can go from side to side and find alternative solutions.
>>735974885You must be that fag from /fog/ who can't possibly believe more than one person likes Fallout 3.
>>735974697She... she looks just like me... thank you, obsidian...#RepresentationMatters
>>735974701>more people responded to the guy saying new vegas is betterSo? the retard was the guy who posted NV is better. Who asked?
>>735974971The quest in Big Town in FO3 is much better done than the one in NV Goodsprings. You have much more options to deal with the super mutant raid like teaching the people how to shoot guns, repair a defense robot, lay a minefield, or use sneak and hide Versus just passing skill checks and being given garbage like dynamite sticks that can only be thrown 3 feet and crippling your own limbs.
>>735970039I've played through OWB for the first time just recently.Man did I not enjoy it!The entire thing is just overwritten "le whacky science" dialogue and annoying combat encounters.New Vegas's worst aspect is combat, so having the dlc be only combat really hurts it.Plus the whole setting is so fucking jarring and goes against the tone of the whole series. Why do we give Bethesda shit for 'ruining Fallout lore' when New Vegas added a bunch of floating cartoon characters creating Rick and Morty tech?Almost all of the loot from the dlc as well just clashes so much with the base game. No I don't want a floating blue halo ring made of light on my post apocalyptic cowboy. No I don't want to use a minigun with a dog's brain inside of it.I don't think I'm ever going to play through OWB again. I only did it for the achievements
>>735974631>>735971940
>>735970304>>vaults that aren't le garyI always felt that Vault 11 was way more goofy and over the top than anything in Fallout 3.Everyone talks about it being the best vault in the series or whatever, it's just edgy bullshit.It's also a really boring dungeon
>>735975268>The entire thing is just overwritten "le whacky science" dialogue and annoying combat encounters.That's the same thing with House, NV trannies were sucking this guy off saying he's Nikola Tesla but in reality he's just a predictable le evil scientist. I really have no idea what the NV trannies see in this game.
>>735966646lol
>>735974056>>Cawadooty iron sights that are less accurate than hip firing the gunNigger, what? Do you even proofread the lies you spout on the internet? Jesus Christ.
This is why trannies want you to play New Vegas.
>>735975268OWB being so combat focused was a direct response to people complaining about the prior DLC being too easy, so they filled it full of spongey enemies around every corner and had lobotomites dotting the landscape without rhyme or reason.
>>735975508It's true, you need to a mod just to fix the shit ADS.
>>735974790
>>735974312You're right, frankly PT from 3 I found better than almost all dlcs from NV. The point I was trying to make was that there are references in base NV to all dlcs and vice versa so it feels connected. Meanwhile in 3 all dlcs are self contained for better or worse.Well except for broken steel but fuck that one.
>>735975643NV trannies post this like it's a win when it really reveals how mad they were that no one cares they didn't like the Fallout show.
>>735975245Well the Goodsprings one is just a tutorial quest meant to introduce a few basic gameplay mechanics.But Big Town is much more interesting, both as a town and set of characters, and as a quest
>>735964485fallout 4 is literally fallout 3 but betteryou should move on already
>>735975756I have.
>>735975643NV trannies pretending they play Fallout 2, an actual RPG when in reality they're just playing Oblivion with guns.
>>735975608That can't be true.I mean there was only two months inbetween Honest Hearts and Old World Blues. Logistically they must have already been mostly done with OWB by the time Honest Hearts released.I love Honest Hearts by the way, easily the best New Vegas dlc. It's the only one which fits in with the base game in world building and tone.
>>735975820Revolting, "people" like you should be rangebanned.
I'm just gonna say it.I prefer 3's DLCs to New Vegas's and it's not even remotely close.
>>735975680I think having the DLCs be interconnected was a bad play when the final DLC is, in my opinion at least, the worst written one, even worse than OWB. All this build up to a guy who's motivations basically come down to that he's pissing himself over you not opening a package you were delivering to a place you've already delivered to multiple times.
>>735975723It is a quintessential "look at how not mad and unbothered I am right now" type post, yeah
>>735970481yep.
>>735975937https://youtu.be/Sh8zsf57yqE
>>735975842I could be wrong, but it's not like it would take much time to dot around some more enemies to the overworld and crank the numbers. It's just something I remember hearing at one point.
>>735975929Why? If you're going to be a hateful twat then have some integrity.
>>735975643Kek
>>735966646[agility 10] failed"your bones are scraped clean by the desolate wind. your vault will now surely die, as you have"
>>735970784Oblivion has the best quests in the series, by fucking far.
>>735964695>Less sales>Lower ratingNah, FO3 Wanderchads stay winning.
>>735975937Fallout 3 DLCs are a joke>Call of Duty>Collecting ingots>Far Harbor but worse>Fucking Aliens DLC>The real ending is sold as a separate DLC
>>735975756but does it have better coomer mods?
>>735976026Because Bethesda deserves to die.
>>735976134>Because Bethesda deserves to die.Why they made some of my favorite games.
>>735976082Completely correct, and they're still far better
>>735975937>People had to pay $7.99 just to be able to play some of the worst DLCs imaginable for NV.You should have seen the shitstorm when Dead Money released, everyone thought it was ass especially when the level cap wasn't as high so people were going in there with like 30 in melee weapons and not having a good time.
>>735976085yeah...? have you tried romanceable dogmeat mod yet?
>>735976082fall of outie was kinofar worse harbor is a funny name
>>735976169>Why they made some of my favorite games.I too wish I had zero standards.
why DID trannies latch onto NV?
>>735976182i hope it's a black dude wearing that ranger drip
>>735976082I don't care how bad it is I unironically kind of like Anchorage. It's short, campy, and simple. Sue me.
>>735975937Agreed 100%New Vegas's DLCs, except Honest Hearts, are these really overwrought and overdramatic affairs.They're really overwritten too. Lonesome Road is, basically, just a pretentious version of Operation Anchorage.Dead Money is annoying as fuck mechanically.Point Lookout is the best Fallout DLC. It has the same exploration and focus of 3's basegame, but it's with a fun new setting.The Pitt has god tier atmosphere and an interesting story.Broken Steel was excellent for actually fixing the biggest problem with the gameOperation Anchorage, while pretty bad, still had awesome loot which didn't clash with the base game's tone or lore like OWB does.And Mothership Zeta isn't that bad.
>>735974276Luv me PS3, simple as.
>>735976231>I too wish I had zero standards.That seems like a weird thing to wish. Can't relate.
>>735976246something something gamergate strategiessomething something subversion
>>735974312I love Honest Hearts.It does help that I've been to Zion Canyon in real life though, maybe that's a big part of the reason
>>735976246they also latched onto the better genderfnv is the best fallout game
>>735976246Because >>735975013 was not being ironic. >>735974697 truly is representative of your average new vegas tranny. That's why there's supermutants representing New Vegas players in >>735975643, they feel as kindred to those chemically altered and mutilated monsters
>>735976231>NV tranny hates Bethesda but only plays the game that is identical to a Bethesda game.
>>735975756fallout 4's side quests are absolute dogshit compared to 3's. Its atmosphere is also made for little kids, why is everything a fucking pastel color? Why does everyone look like they're derived from the male PC's face? Fallout 4 isn't even an RPG, it's a looter shooter.
>>735976025Fair, that could have been a thing.
>>735976330I've been there too but HH just doesn't grab me for whatever reason.
>>735976182dead money is the only good dlc lmao. It's pure survival horror kino.
>>735976369>Its atmosphere is also made for little kidsWhen I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
>>735976363>the game that is identical to a Bethesda game.in all fairness todd refuses to rent out his IPs to anyone who can actually make a game
>>735975842>>735976330Goes to show how different our tastes can be. I absolutely hated HH on release and I've only come to hate it more since. I only go to Zion in my current games when a mod requires it, and I always just butcher Joshua and Daniel.
>>735975960Ulysses and the whole of Lonesome Road is the worst written part of any Fallout game.In some ways being overwritten is worse than being retarded, because that whole DLC is so pointless and so fucking pretentious it is ungodly annoying to get though. And outside of Ulysses' dumb, monotone spiel all you have are linear combat encounters.
>>735976369>it's a looter shooter.Good, having a shooting game as an RPG is still one of the most retarded ideas ever like putting an entire magazine of bullets into an enemy's head and still having them standing.
>>735975623I'm saying this was not an argument back then. People didn't fucking care.It's also really fucking ironic to complain about the iron sights when attempting to defend Fallout 3 of all things.>inb4 "but the post never mentioned Fallout 3"Don't play dumb.
Fallout 4 = New Vegas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallout 3
>>735976082Point Lookout was awesome.And collecting ingots was not bad, you only have to get a handful to progress if you don't feel like doing that scavenger hunt.
>>735975937AgreedWhich is bizarre because I prefer the base game for NV by a long shot.
>>735975960>he didn't liked THE BEAR AND THE BULL ramblingsHonestly true kek, despite Ulysses going on his Oppenheimer guilt trip I kinda liked the dlc mainly because of ED-E and some decisions you can choose that felt pretty much final-esque.
>>735976246Well trannies are mostly autistic.And autistic people like really in-depth worlds, and have the patience for bad graphics and poor performance.I think then that it's moreso that a lot of people who became trannies (typically terminally online autists) already liked New Vegas, and then they just shared the game they liked to their friend groups. Who were inevitably just more transgender autists
>>735976414>>735976461Honest Hearts is fun for me since I like the characters and I like getting to explore Zion. I think it's pretty and peaceful.Plus it's really short, so it's not too hard to get through. And the Survivalist's rifle is one of my favorite guns in the game.I think I might be one of the few people to really like both Waking-Cloud and Follows-Chalk
>>735976561Fallout 4 is great at emergent storytelling and shit at intentional storytelling while New Vegas is the exact opposite.
>Go find Benny.>They kill him off in the most anticlimactic way possible.>Go find the Platinum Chip.>Choose who to give it to and get a lazy powerpoint presentation.So where is the good writing that all the NV trannies love to praise because I never saw any of it.
>>735976573Point Lookout was okay at best, and these days you can play it in Fallout 4 so it doesn’t really matterIngots are a sign of a bigger problem. The whole of The Pitt has like 4 quests and two of them are collecting ingots and fighting in the arena. Fallout 3 DLCs felt like a complete rip-off from the start, which is why most people can’t stand them.
>>735976369>quests are absolute dogshit compared to 3it's literally the same stuffyou look for father (who's your son)you visit a big ass city, where you look for an android (hello rivet city)you find a weird settlement with a dark secret (andale - covenant)far harbor - point lookoutthe pitt - nuka worldetc>why is everything a fucking pastel colorthere are other colors in the world beside brown and toxic green>everyone look like they're derived from the male PC's facebecause presets, fallout 3 has the sameface too>isn't even an RPGneither any game in the series, wanna roleplay - play dnd tabletop
>>735976743>Waking-Cloud>This is supposed to be a "woman" in New VegasLmao.
>>735976369>>735976787Fallout 4 quests are better because you have a real choice and the world reacts to your actions in a way that Fallout 3 doesn’t. You can literally get a neutral ending with three out of four factions if you follow a specific path, not only did Fallout 3 not have this, even NV doesn’t have anything like it.
>>735976891Goes to show Obsidian was always woke and making their female characters ugly on purpose even back then.
>>735976787>neither any game in the series, wanna roleplay - play dnd tabletop
>>735970039>>735975268>>735975413People's problem with Bethesda's Fallout isn't that it's wacky; It's that it doesn't make any sense.OWB fits the established lore and tone very well, despite being wacky lolrandumb on the surface. Washington DC still being a stagnant radioactive shithole 200 damn years is just stupid.
>>735976970imagine if felicia day was hot
>>735976987>Washington DC still being a stagnant radioactive shithole 200 damn years is just stupid.India has been a stagnant radioactive shithole for like 200 years. How is this unrealistic?
>>735977043>super mutant indiansimagine the smell
>>735976987>OWB fits the established lore and tone very wellEspecially le epic toaster of doom! *holds up spork* 10/10 writing Obshitian, these reskinned radscorpions and a dog with the setscale console command set to 2 is the greatest thang evar!
>>735977202>filtered by rick&morty-esque kinopleb
>>735976476>having a sword game as an RPG is still one of the most retarded ideas ever like hitting a sword into an enemy's head and still having them standing.Do you see how you're mentally ill? I think you might be a tranny
>>735977362>I think you might be a trannyI don't play New Vegas.
We are Fallout 3 fans here
>>735976987>OWB fits the established loreWhat the fuck are you talking about?Where in Fallout were there walking skeletons in space suits, teleportation, force fields, guns with dog brains in them, such amazing medical tech that people could live without their hearts, brains, or spines? It is so out of fucking tone with the realistic world that New Vegas built, it's insane.Tell me exactly what did Fallout 3 or 4 do which were so much 'worse for the lore' than the retardation from Old World Blues, or the holograms and literal ghosts and spontaneous matter generators from Dead Money?
designated gorebag streets
>>735977471>HA HA HA HA, NEW VEGAS PLAYERS = TRANNIES, PLEASE LAUGHFuck you
>>735971225Morrowind and Skyrim have all these kino DLC sized quest mods like Tamriel Rebuilt, Enderal, Legacy of the Dragonborn and what does NV have? The fucking Frontier, LMAO!
>>735977651Yeah those are where the supermutants hang out.I guess supermutants just line places with gore
>>735977289>rick and morty>kinoNot ever.
>>735977664Settle down, NV tranny.
>>735977943those feet...AWOOGA
>>735978032You nasty ass nigga.
This is a Bethesda board. If you don't own a copy of Skyrim, Starfield, Fallout 3, Fallout 4, and Fallout 76, you don't belong here!
>>735978198Based, NV troons need to go back to Plebbit with the rest of their kind.
>>735969137>New Vegas trannies can never explain how the game is better or why it's so "good"This has been explained to you multiple times and you just throw a tantrum and cry tranny and spam your tranny folder like a deranged toddler. https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/EGrDo41G7O0FrsQ5jZdLcQ/
>>735978374>archiveOH NO NO NO NO
>>735978352ngl rowling is a real cougarmeow no cap
>>735976891>here is a woman>she has multiple children >she even recounts how she nearly died giving birth>REEEE TRANNY FUCK YOU *sniff* FUCK YOU
Just opened nexusmods for new vegas and this was on the front page.....Obsidian sisters how do we defend this...?
>>735978352The obsession of painting Todd as some pantomime villain who constantly on the look out for new ways to screw Obsidian over suddenly starts making sense why you see trannies doing the exact same thing with JK Rowling. They really do love to create a bogeyman to blame all their ills upon.
>>735978495>rabid schizophrenic has to say his trabby image he scoured nexus for is on the front page>look it up>it’s bullshitLying so hard everyday in every thread.
>>735978374>posts evidence that he's asked multiple times and has never had a proper explanation as to whyMeds
>>735978492>Tranny manface>SHE'S A REAL WOMAN YOU INCEL CHUD!Do NV trannies really?
>>735964695True.
>>735978643>posts him being a deranged faggot who always gets btfo and spams the same cope>a-actually you proved me rightCrawl back into your slop pit subhuman, I’m sure 76 has another shitty costume in the atom shop you can spend your good boy points on.
>>735978651>man faceSo like most of the female models in the engine? >SHE'S A REAL WOMANTroons can’t give birth, did you forget that? It’s pretty hard to forget that.
>>735978495>trans flags of the rapist factionsuhhhh based?
Fallout 3’s hatred of communism is problematic chudThey way you can replay it and go a whole different direction on the map needed to be stopped. You are having too much fun. NV and 4 are real tranny chads because you have to play the game the right way every time, only with a different character.
>>735975643>modded his donut steel oc courier into fallout 2KWAB, you are Todd's bitch and you always will be
The retard so assblasted he has to pretend to be his strawman to cope, lol.
>>735978876>Fallout 3’s hatred of communism is problematic chudI unironicaly think breadtuber faghots getting bullied on the playground to the catchphrases of liberty prime is behind much of their seething toward 3
>>735978596mods you've downloaded already won't be recommended again to you.
>>735978964>getting bullied on the playground to the catchphrases of liberty primeThis is too specific to be anything but projection.
>>735979009So it wasn’t on the first page and you did have to scour nexus for it. Also I don’t download troon shit, you do since you need something to spam here so you can cry about NV.
>>735979026>Immediately starts seething about itThank you for confirming my suspicions are correct
>>735979083>Also I don’t download troon shit>Plays NVPress X to Doubt.
>>735979120>no u seethingImagine still being mad about shit that happened in grade school and projecting it on people on an anonymous image board.
>>735964485>using the built-in screenshot functionridiculous that you need a mod to get the steam overlay to work
>>735977547>I played this game when I was young>I played this game when I was oldNo amount of mental gymnastics can make up for the fact that FNV stans are full of shit
>>735978495>32 total downloads#wow #woah #italiano
>>735979184This retard keep crying tranny but admitted to having tranny shit recommend to him on the nexus. I guess it makes sense why he keeps calling NV a tranny game he only looks up tranny shit.
>>735977043The most common source of food in Mumbai isn't 200 year old frozen dinner, for instance.Also, a lot happened in India since 1826. Pretty much nothing of note happened in DC before the BOS arrived.>>735977202Amoral pre-war scientists turned into brains in a jar living in a recursive loop is believable and fits the theme of struggling to move on from the past pretty well, yes.But you're right, they made silly jokes so it's dumb, wacky nonsense and little else.>>735977547Fallout is partially Sci-Fi, anon. The war happened in 2077, not 1957. Might as well complain the "realistic world" has laser weapons.>Tell me exactly what did Fallout 3 or 4 do which were so much 'worse for the lore' than the retardation from Old World Blues, or the holograms and literal ghosts and spontaneous matter generators from Dead Money?Oh, let's see>making a city in a crater, where even a small amount of rain can destroy everything (good thing the devs disabled that)>city of children not only existing for 2 centuries, but somehow repelling slavers and Super Mutants>Tenpenny Tower being wealthy despite not selling anything or even having the means for self-sufficiency>water still being irradiated after centuries (it's not like someone is dumping waste there, so what gives?)>Capital Wasteland and Commonwealth barely having recorded history and most buildings being seemingly abandoned since the war (Boston is particularly baffling since it does not appear to have been bombed at all)>fucking aliens being implied to have started the war, rendering the entire message mootNoticed most of these have nothing to do with the Sci-Fi wackiness, because that is not a problem. What IS a problem, is Bethesda's world-building being nonsensical.
>>735979219>projecting it on people on an anonymous image board>BreadtuberOh so you're just retarded, got it
>>735979267>#italianoCould it be?
>>735979376I mean you just did that in your last post when you said I was seething for calling you out. But I see I hit a nerve and you have to play dumb to cope.
>>735979328>I guess it makes sense why he keeps calling a spade a spade.
>>735979468Nice backpedaling.
>>735979509>has tranny shit recommend to him>has tranny shit saved>is so deep into delusion and confirmation bias he thinks his cope is realitylol, called it, he has a whole folder of tranny shit to spam. He literally looks for random shit just to cry tranny. Wonder if he did it independently or has some shitcord he lurks and collects it.
>>735979541That’s not backpedaling I never said you weren’t projecting I pointed out how you were wrong. Don’t use words you don’t understand subhuman.
>>735979624You're the one playing the tranny game, faggot. Not me.
>>735979696>it’s a tranny game because I have all these tranny imagesUh uh, and the sun isn’t real because it’s dark in your room, right?
What if I'm trans but I don't care for Fallout New Vegas
>>735979749That's how evidence works, tranny.
>>735964485>F3 thread>Look inside>It's just trannies seething at each otherChecks out i guess.
>>735979774Entirely possible: It's known as the quintessential tranny game because it makes people troon out, not because trannies like it more than any other game.
>>735979774It's a rite of passage for every tranny to complete one playthrough of New Vegas before they give themselves the chop.
>>735979861It was over as soon as the second post brought up new vegas.
>>735964695SPBP
>>735964695>most people rejected his message
>>735979820>a few images of retard is evidenceIt’s only evidence that’s you’re a seething schizophrenic who does this regularly. https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/YH0h-MSDe9qpfpDLu-4isA/Is it you fagio?
>>735979351>city in a crater with a nukeChildren of Atom cultists, immune to radiation and even gain health from living near it, and the lore still isn't any more broken than the damage OWB did.>city of childrenCallback reference to pinocchio and pleasure island. Fallout is filled with references to other movies and media, your criticism is with the series as a whole if that's your limit.>tenpenny towerTower filled with mega rich scumbags and barons from former NCR territories taking a vacation in washington? More believable than OWB.>water still being irradiatedChinese sub silos were filled with dirty bombs and other miscellaneous chemicals grandfathered from the new plague disease. The radioactive waste in fallout is said to be "weird" in comparison to most types of radiation.>capital wasteland and boston being more destroyed than the west coastThe west coast had the luxury of the vault dweller, the chosen one and the courier making life more habitable, the east coast had the institute and the CoA wreaking havoc. They didn't have the luxury of heroes until the arrival of nate and lone wanderer.>aliensJust a reference. Not canon unless you look really deep at all the cthulu myth stuff that Bethesda sprinkles around their games.
>>735979351>Fallout is partially Sci-Fi, anon.Yeah but there's a difference between robots and laser guns and force fields and teleportation. One is way more out there are ridiculous than what had been seen previouslyI'm going to respond to your lore complaints>Megaton being around a nukeThat's explained in game, it was a hiding place for people wanting to get into vault 101 and then, when they decided to make a city, a cult which worshiped radiation insisted that they'd built it around the nuke. And by that point no one thought that the bomb would explode>Little LamplightThis isn't really a lore change, this is just a town which you think is dumb. Fallout 3 goes for a worldbuilding style more focused on tone than realism. Which leads to things like Little Lamplight which don't make as much sense. But that's just one town, it's not a change to the broader lore>Why is Tenpenny Tower wealthy?Because only wealthy people live their. It's a place of people who already have money buying stuff from the outside. Also, not a lore thing anon>water still being irradiatedFallout 2 basically already implies that the world was poisoned, this wasn't a lore change>CW & Commonwealth not having much historyThis isn't a lore thing, again you really don't know what you're talking about. Plus there is plenty of backstory for the regions. More than existed for Fallout 1. West Coast Fallout builds on previous games, which gives it more history. 3 and 4 are one and done for their locations.>Bethesda's world building is dumbI'd agree for 4, but Fallout 3 just uses an entirely different method of worldbuilding. Focusing on tone and atmosphere instead of realism. In that way it's more akin to something like Zelda or even Pokemon.
>>735980090Cry about it, NV tranny.
>>735980113>Callback reference to pinocchio and pleasure island.I think it's more of a Mad Max 3 reference.
>>735980090You both do the same shit over and over again, him dumping the same images and you posting the same archive links over and over. You're both schizos wasting your once chance at life doing this shit recurrently
>>735978495I don't get it. Who is this for? It's a single player game? Is it just to farm likes? To annoy people?
>>735980234You already are crying about it, you’ve been crying for years now I mean five years of the same shit? https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/LRZWME8qpeKBruNmQtz0wg%3D%3D/page/4/
>>735980291Other people do this shit to you? What do you think everyone who calls you a schizo and shows how you spam shit is the same person?
>>735980347That wasn't me.
>Yeah I play New Vegas, how could you tell?
>>735980446>link archive showing that he has been doing this for years>just cries it’s not him like a kid caught with his hand in a cookie jar lol, this faggot.
>file name is the same as the others but with characters deleted or addedYup this is fagio.
>>735980431>wow, you think everybody doing the same thing is the same person, that's crazy>>735980547>wow, you think different people would do the same thing, that's crazyClassic schizo argument-style, no consistency just hypocrisy. Enjoy spending the rest of your life arguing the same argument over and over again with the anti-NV schizo, pro-NV schizo
>>735980547Okay?New Vegas is still a tranny game.
New Vegas is too hardcore for Morrowind babies
>>735964695the indians did not like this post
>Are you winning, son?>Son?...Many such cases...
>>735981378>last panelkek
>>735981378>ADS and no dice-roll for damage>no fatigue to reduce hit chance evenyou may have it backwards
>>735964695>Fallout 3 thread>BUT WHAT ABOUT NEW VEGASTypical tranny behaviour from a tranny fanbase.
>>735981708NV tranny groomers can't help themselves.
>>735981616Morrowind does not have dice roll based damage actually. The damage numbers are based purely on how "charged" your weapon is. If you fully draw it back you will always hit the max damage for that type of attack with that weapon.
>>735981878fallout 3 fans sure like talking about troons
>>735982003I've just been talking about the New Vegas DLCs and Morrowind and I'm catching strays, poor form anon
>>735982094didn't mean to reply to you lmao
>>735976283I’m glad I’ll never have taste as shit as a 3 troon.
>>735964485Look because you liked when your uncle cummed in your ass doesn't mean getting raped was good
>>735982003The troons just happen to be New Vegas players, no surprise there.
i like playing fallout 4 my wife Curie is so cute :)
>>735982150New Vegas trannies don't need their uncles, they got the sex protectron.
>Scripted event>Can't even own it, pilot it or upgrade itNah
Jeet having a meltylol
>>735982313>The Lottery is a scripted event>NV trannies pretend it's the greatest thing ever.
Niggas really prowl reddit for pictures of trannies to derail New Vegas threads after years after /v/ rightfully calling 3 for being an inferior game.
>>735980113>city in a crater with a nukeNever mentioned the nuke. I'm talking about building a city inside a crater (not around, inside). Rain would absolutely wreck Megaton, but we don't see it because the devs INTENTIONALLY DISABLED RAIN.>Callback reference to pinocchio and pleasure island. Fallout is filled with references to other movies and media, your criticism is with the series as a whole if that's your limit.Except Little Lamplight is not a random encounter or Wild Wasteland event you can write-off as non-canon. It's literally part of the main plot. It's canon and should be scrutinized.>Tower filled with mega rich scumbags and barons from former NCR territories taking a vacation in washington?Complete headcanon. Why does every F3 discussion eventually become anons making shit up to justify bad writing?>Chinese sub silos were filled with dirty bombs and other miscellaneous chemicals grandfathered from the new plague disease. The radioactive waste in fallout is said to be "weird" in comparison to most types of radiation.See above.>capital wasteland and boston being more destroyed than the west coastNo, I said the exact opposite. DC and especially Boston are in pretty good shape for cities that had been nuked. Vault 87 doesn't have the benefit of a Master figure and most mutants seem pretty stupid. Why haven't the Talon Company wiped them out yet? Hell, what have them been doing for 200 years? What's their history? I guess that's not important.>Just a reference.Like Little Lamplight? You see why I can't really give Bethesda the benefit of the doubt, here?
>>735982486>Can sneak >Can use melee onlyYep, way better
>>735982551>Niggas really prowl reddit for pictures of new vegas players to derail New Vegas threadsExplain this one.
>>735964485That was utter garbage though
>>735973740>graphicssure>combatisn't fallout 4 the game where you encounter "legendary" variants of the same enemies that are basically just bullet sponges?>explorationi guess. it's nice having good writing alongside that though, otherwise all you uncover is shit outside of what looks pretty
>>735982741You are right, listening to the NPCs yappin with cringe reddit dialogue for hours is much better.
>>735982713You'd be unsurprised as to how often it pops up in /LGBT/ too
we have this (non-organic) thread every day
>>735982842Legendaries are such a bad idea. I ran into a legendary explosive combat shotgun at about the midway point, and for some reason each pellet had a full explosion attached to it making it kill just about everything in the game short of a mirelurk queen in a single shot and sucked all the challenge of the combat right out. Outside of that though most of them are just completely useless scraps of armor like a kneepad that adds 5 encumbrance or whatever.
>>735967987It's a way better designed RPG. I mean the weapons alone make Fallout 3's pitiful offerings look even worse by comparison, New Vegas actually does the smart thing and gives multiple play styles a steady progression so you're not stuck using the same handful from mid to end game. I cannot overstate just how bullshit 3's weapon selection was and I despise how it carried over into 4.
>>735983151All the games are piss easy even the classic games. Even in New Vegas you could just get the riot shotgun with the knockdown perk and triviliaze the entire game by putting enemies in a perma ragdoll.
ive always been a new vegas sissy and hated on fo3 but like 3 years ago i tried out TTW and replayed fo3 for the first time since release and i found quite a lot to love about it. the story is still dogshit thobite and its theme park world design pales in comparison to NV but theres still fun to be had, unlike FO4
>>735966646>lost INT check>gets on table>lost CHA check>girl avoids him>lost AGI check>falls off tablejust reload the save at this point
>>735983293NV is the most themepark out of all the games since it wants to railroad you south. Nipton is the biggest theme park moment of them all even the guys on the crosses are nothing more than inanimate props akin to Halloween decorations.
>>735983472incorrect
>>735983565I accept your concession.
>>735975937The only 3 DLCs that are above sub-par are Point Lookout and the Pitt (extremely debatable). Operation Anchorage is okay if boring and has zero replayability. Broken Steel clumsily tries to tack on a post game and it doesn't really work. Mothership Zeta is terrible from both a conceptual and design perspective on top of being the single buggiest DLCs Bethesda has ever released.
>>735983293I don't get this argument for calling a specific game a themepark, they're all themeparks. Every location on the map is basically a ride on the merry go wheel and Primm even has a rollercoaster.
>>735976281It's fine for a single playthrough then just becomes a pointless slog because there's zero reason to go back for it beyond the OP loot for future playthroughs since you've already seen everything it has to offer.
>>735983794what i mean when i say it is that FO3's world has no cohesion. just POIs thrown as a dart on an empty world. in NV nearly everything has a purpose and story that contributes to it's environment and worldspace
>>735983472>the guys on the crosses are nothing more than inanimate propsAnon, people on crosses aren't supposed to be moving very much. All their energy's spent just staying upright so they don't suffocate.
>>735983834I'd rather shoot commies than listen to BEAR BULL BEAR BULL or Penis Fingers! just to get my OP weapons and stat upgrades.
>>735983906I could use the same argument back at you. What purpose is there for a wolf cave or having the town of Goodsprings be right next to Cazadors or having Sloan right next to Deathclaws, that's all railroading gamey shit.
>>735975643>My identity? Invalidated?>Well what if you CHUDS were BRUTALLY KILLED!Just like all my heckin’ trans rights comics!
>>735984156what does railroading have to do with theme parks?
>>735964485MOGGED
>>735984329Are you stupid?
>>735984384are you being obtuse on purpose? youre taking the theme park bit too literally
>>735980184>One is way more out there are ridiculous than what had been seen previouslyBecause?Keep in mind, those things never left Big MT. It's the same reason why I don't pick on Fallout 4 for introducing cryogenics, being framed as a Vault Tec experiment with a terrible success rate.>MegatonYou're ignoring my actual complaint, just like the other guy.>This isn't really a lore changeBOS, Deathclaws, Radscorpions and SM appearing on the East Coast being stupid has already been discussed to death. Other than that, yeah, 3 and 4 don't mess with established lore much. But neither does OWB, if we're using that metric.>this is just a town which you think is dumb.It is dumb. Forget the logistics of how they reproduce, or why Big Town hasn't simply retaken LL by force. How in the world have they not been conquered by outsiders yet, like the Super Mutants RIGHT NEXT DOOR?>Fallout 3 goes for a worldbuilding style more focused on tone than realism.Then what's the point of this discussion? Why try to compare how much Bethesda's games ruined the lore compared to OWB if nothing matters and every thing is a metaphor or whatever? Is this the point we've reached in trying to defend the abysmal world building of F3? It doesn't matter and you're dumb for caring too much? Fucking hell.>Because only wealthy people live their. It's a place of people who already have money buying stuff from the outside.WHY are they wealthy, anon? Tenpenny himself came from Britain (somehow). What about the rest? Oh right, it doesn't matter, does it.>Fallout 2 basically already implies that the world was poisonedI'm gonna a source on that, chief.>Plus there is plenty of backstory for the regionsThere isn't. The settlements are either established in the immediately post war and just stagnated, or are mere decades old, leaving a huge gap in History.but I guess it doesn't matter and we should just take in the vibes (unless we're discussing NV, of course, then it's serious business.)
>>735984156That's actually good game design though and the opposite of railroading. The game presents it as a challenge gate to nudge not force you in a certain direction, it's still entirely feasible to go that direction on lower levels if you absolutely want to it would just be more of a pain and require cheesing.
>>735980184Fallout 3 and 4 had almost indistinguishable from human Blade Runner androids in a world where the most advanced robotics still ran on bulky servos and vacuum tubes, force fields and teleportation is far less unbelievable than that.
>>735984802Here's the real last panel.
>>735979690Democracy is truth. Communism is death. Embrace democracy, or you will be eradicated. We will not fear the red menace! Freedom is the sovereign right of every American.
Fallout 3 and Duke Nukem are the most masculine and heterosexual games ever made.
>>735975989Just like the original comic.
>>735984802>>735985164>Fallout: New Veg-ACK!
Obsidian basically made Fallout 4 though
>>735977547Fallout always had wacky 50s future tech, the beauty of OWB is that because it's all self contained they can get silly with it yet still remain aesthetically coherent. It's nowhere near as egregious as the synths that broke all sorts of lore and don't even fit the retro-futurist aesthetic.
>>735986093That was Outer Wilds, a game that is somehow even gayer than New Vegas, an impossible feat.
>>735976047Some of the quests were fun yes, the writing is still nothing remarkable
>>735986019uh oh, melty!
New Vegas is the best FalloutVice City is the best GTAOblivion is the best Elder ScrollsGet over it
>>735986436Melty over what? It's funny.
>>735986467It's actually:4San Andreas Morrowind
>>735986529>Doth protest too much, methinks!OH NO NO NO NOOOOOO
TL;DR the thread.It's impossible to have Fallout or STALKER threads anymore. Those used to be daily threads on /v/ until the worst shitposters took over. >Fallout discussionRuined because a shitty NV mod happened where the devs used modern day(at the time) leftists lingo in it and plenty of weirdos and freaks also liked the game but were not vocal until reddit and discord discussions leaked.>STALKER The 3 day special operation of February 2022 in Ukraine ruined everything about that series discussion.Ban yourself or go back to /bant/ or /trash/ retards.
>>735986861I mean, new Vegas threads still happen and are fine. People discuss the setting and the factions. It's fallout 3 threads that are fucking cooked, just pure shit flinging nobody talking about the game
>>735986839>He's got nothing.That's what I thought NV tranny. Know your place.
>>735964695Based.
>>735986861>Ban yourself or go back to /bant/ or /trash/ retards.No I don't think I will
>>735964695it's true
>>735981708Don't pretend that this doesn't also happen in oy veygas threads with pajeet 3 immediately shilled by someone who probably doesn't even play either game.
>>735964695Tranny hands typed this post
>>735964695I disagree.
>>735987020My first fallout was NV because fallout 3 weapons didn't shoot where the player aimed. I got 3 in 2012 and it was MEH. In NV i could basically kill anyone on sight if they were annoying or ugly or any reason to make me draw my gun if i wished to, while guns has ADS and were accurate. >>735987240Back to /b/ where you belong. Actually the board is kill so just leave.
What makes Fallout 3, better then Fallout: New Vegas?
>>735987328>My first fallout was NVYour nostalgia goggles are clouding you from how shit the game truly is.
>>735964485>walking behind Liberty Prime>he glitches and gets stuck on something>scripted bullshit segment can't progress>have to reload save>same thing happens in a different spotDo you know how long this "kino" took me on Xbox 360?
>>735987265Gamebryo is just that good and they're upgrading it as they develop TES6. Todd's final hurrah might pay off if they don't fuck around like with Starfield.>>735987462I played CoD4 at 60fps, NV wasn't even on that level gameplay wise. Try harder next time.Fallout 3? Terrible gameplay and it didn't learn anything from TES4(better than F3) mistakes. I was a TES player first.
>>735987441Fallout 3 is better in everyway possible except for the mediocre story but who cares about the story in a Fallout game.
>>735987649>I played CoD4 at 60fps, NV wasn't even on that level gameplay wise.No shit sherlock, everyone already knows NV plays like complete ass. Didn't stop them from adding ADS and brown and bloom, mostly to cash in on the popularity of MW2 at the time.
>>735987653You play melee in Fallout games? Why even do that?
>>735987752New Vegas already railroads you into using melee if you want to play Dead Money without wanting to kill yourself as you are forced to use one of the dumbest looking melee weapons of all time, the bear trap fist.
>>735987737Ok fine, the gunplay in NV is better than in 3. I can't be more clear than that. Fallout 4 copied bits of both NV and 3 but still couldn't do the best of both games so it was a 7/10. Old Obsidian is dead so even a NV2 would be worse than NV from 2010.
>>735964695I agree.
>>735987891I personally just used ratslayer then the AMR .50 for the whole game except DM because of those ghost people that needed to be BTFO with melee or explosives.
>>735987931>Old Obsidian is dead so even a NV2 would be worse than NV from 2010.Lol no, Obsidians games are just as gay as New Vegas was, only difference is they're not being carried by Bethesda anymore.
>>735964695HE WENT THERE
>>735988062>only difference is they're not being carried by Bethesda anymore.Except the Bethesda part of New Vegas IS the weakest part of New Vegas, sis.
>>735964695Holy based
>>735987891At least there's actual weapon variety for melee in New Vegas
>>735988142Is that why all their games were woke flops? If Obsidian did the same game without the Fallout IP, nobody would have given a shit just like Avowed.
>>735988062I've only played NV from them and all that i gathered since 2010 is that yes all their other games were degenerate experiences. Felicia Day and Arcade can be killed and enslaved anyway so there's that. Cass became a ash pile too.
>>735980184Fallout 1 and 2 already had force fields...
>>735988267>The weapon variety: Here's 20 rifles, shotguns, and revolvers that shoot once per shot and take 20 years to reload.>Here's some dynamite that can only be thrown 2 feet infront of you.Yeah and they all feel like ass to use except maybe 1 or 2 guns from each category.
>>735988405they specified melee weapons, sweety
>>735988287They asked BGS to make a TES spin off and they said no. Without Todd and co, NV would've been a complete disaster. It doesn't mean that NV is bad but imo it's better than 3 and 4.BGS only exels at TES sadly and the games progressively became more casual.
>>735982601Why would rain be an issue if the city is predominantly raised up on stilts like a port? Only the lower levels would drown, and even then, they're poor and willing to live on the lower levels rather than take their chances outside.Main plot or not, many encounters in the fallout games are completely tone-deaf and usually done for the sake of entertaining the player. Your point is a stupid one when new reno and the mafia are interconnected in fallout 2's enclave plot.If you actually took a vested interest in reading, you'd know that tenpenny tower itself is a reference to fiddler's green, and dialogue confirms that they recieve wealthy tourists due to the prestige of their tower. Money and trade is not an issue because they are a FUCKING tourist trap.If you bothered with the lore at all, you would know that fallout radiation isn't normal. The fact that you want to make the argument that basic ass rads + FEV creates ghouls, muties, centaurs and etc means you're either taking the piss or unbelievably unquestioning of what you see.Talon company's "job" is to keep the wasteland in a state of disrepair, you cheddarhead. And from the show, we know that vault-tec is responsible for doing this because the entirety of America is one giant experiment to yadayada one faction ideology to rule them all yadayada.And again, references are made in all the fallout games and can either be played straight or taken as a joke. But that's fallout, that's part of the brand whether you and I like it or not.
>>735988504What new weapon types with new mechanics did they add from 3 to NV besides reskinning the weapons?
>>735988405Would you rather have pipe guns and stockless weapons everywhere? Fallout 4 weapons selection makes literally any FPS more fun to shoot in.
>>735988743Weapons that shot where you aimed at for once and ammo types. DT worked better than DR because DR works best for TES.
>>735988778>Would you rather have pipe guns and stockless weapons everywhere?Yes, I need them to build my comfy kino settlement.
>>735964485yeah it is but ms is trying to stop the modding and playing of the old games loltheyll only allow it if theyre selling copies or promoting a tv show
>>735987265oof
>>735987441i think New Vegas is the better game, but Fallout 3 did some things better that i can't blame people for thinking 3 is better.>it has a better designed world map with more visually interesting locations and more in-dept dungeons.>it has random encounters, which are a series's staple and their absence in New Vegas is pretty fucking weird in retrospect.>a more consistent art direction in general.>it has a better atmosphere closer to Fallout 1's dark ambience.the worldspace and atmosphere in particular are so strong and much more better executed than in NV that i genuinelly believe that those aspects alone are what can seal someone's decision on the games.
>>735988868>ammo types>DTI love having every enemy become a bullet sponge because I wasn't using AP ammo. Also New Vegas has the shittiest crafting system ever constructed aka needing 6 different parts just to make 1 fucking bullet.
>>735988885I tried so hard to get into that aspect of the game but it's a huge unfun waste of time imo. A friend of mine at the time enjoyed that shit and she built out sanctuary as a city when mine was just cages to farm xp. >>735989000CheckedI never used the crafting system in NV, it was awful and a waste of time. First BGS-like game i played on normal and it was actually balanced around it.I was a sniper so sponges were not a thing for me. Sneak headshots were instakills for every humans.
>>735986370It's the exact same shit, biasedanon. There's a clear difference between campy 50's robots and FUCK-YOU mecha scorpionsSynthetic humans become less egregious the more you look at how retarded OWB was
>>735988987>>it has a better designed world map with more visually interesting locations and more in-dept dungeons.Who are you kidding, the dungeons in both games suck, but New Vegas's suck less because they have better rewards than 3 where you get a bobby pin and dirty water.
>>735989390Lol no, 90% of the exploration in NV is pic related.
>>735989381>legendary bloatfly Why did they make that the super boss of the game? Meanwhile in Fallout 4 they're a fucking joke.
>>735966646Fuck jeets
>>735989479The entire town of Nipton and the side of Primm is basically just that same house with the 1 kitchen and bedroom layout copy pasted throughout the entire map.
>>735989479You jest but i never felt entering all indoor cells or broken buildings in Fallout games because it's always junk everywhere aka 10 tin cans and a teddy bear and maybe a lantern and broom.
>Finally make it the Grand City of New Vegas after being hyped by the game and fans for years about how it's so great.>It's only 2 buildings...
>>735989664>exploration in Fallout in a nut shell At least TES have side quests with NPCs hand placed all over with better environmental storytelling besides skeletons.
>>735989381>There's a clear difference between campy 50's robots and FUCK-YOU mecha scorpionsGee, it's almost like OWB was the story about one man holding back five deranged, mentally ill, drugged-out old-world scientists from unleashing their FUCK YOU monstrosities or something.
>>735989664Shenmue II’s Kowloon is unironically bigger
>>735989664Josh Sawyer was too busy adding 20 useless ammo types instead of finishing the game or being able to walk diagonally.
>>735989949>>735989381gave me an excuse to post the gifi have nothing else to add
>>735989970That's a walking simulator though. Midgar in FF7 is bigger than those cities, what now?
>>735966646The rejection was so strong she sent him flying.
>>735990183They added this once Gamebryo became Creation Engine for Skyrim to be fair. Sawyer wasn't an engine programmer. Fallout 4 added diagonal sprint.
>>735966646I though the other guy kicked him.If there ever was a video of negative aura, is this one.
>>735964695Powerful
>>735988743Believe it or not anon having weapons that look different while that are mechanically similar but still viable is part of the whole basic appeal of RPGs and 3 or 4 didn't even do that bare minimum.
>>735990234Yeah but you can go in every room in the skyscrapers and shit. I mean it’s just amazing how big the buildings are compared to something that was supposed to be big like NV which was just two floors
>>735990421>aura New buzzwords every year after the old one is overused.We live in a society.
>>735990602Buzzword is the ultimate buzzword
>>735990591I'd say PS3 ram limitations are at fault mostly but if 3D Fallout games were made to look like an early 00's game, it could have been more fleshed out.Graphicfaggotry is a never-ending mistake. TES6 is going to be 200gb easily while Skyrim was something around 10gb originally. Shemnue probably 2gb or far less i don't know.
>>735990670>Fun is also a buzzword./v/ circa early 10's
>>735990585So they're basically just reskins without anything new. Got it.
>>735989381Mecha scorpions are silly and fit the camp of the DLC and they're not terribly more advanced than any of the other robos. At the end of the day they're not meant to be taken all that much seriously and the bit of lore massaging they do isn't shoved in your face. With synths, they don't fit the time period OR the aesthetics and their reason for existing is fucking retarded yet it's meant to be taken 100% seriously not to mention how they're now a part of the larger setting when OWB's goofiness is pretty much cordoned off in its own little corner.
>>735990919Welcome to game dev 101. Enjoy your fries and burger son.
>>735990919No, that's Fallout 3.
>>735977547>force fieldsThey were used extensively by the Enclave in Fallout 3 retard>teleportationin Mothership Zeta
>>735990979>Welcome to game dev 101. Lol no, normal RPGs like souls games add in new weapons in every new game, you're just an asskissing cuck that settles for mediocrity.
>>735990919>wtf why is there loot in my RPG?!?
>>735977547>the hologramsWhat's wrong with the Holograms?>and literal ghostsThe ghost people? They were fine.>and spontaneous matter generators from Dead Money?Those were being wheeled out just as the nukes went off and were never mass-produced.
>>735991102>I'm fine with all the loot being completely halfed ass and lazy.
>>735991071New weapons can recycle animations especially non-gun weapons. FromSoft are king when it comes to asset recycling, they made Demon Souls about 5 times and soon 6.
>>735991071There's a lot of weapons in Souls games that aren't much different from each other mechanically outside of looks and stats which is a good thing because it adds visual variety which is fuck easy to do.
>>735964485Yeah and Bethesda never made another Fallout game like that one>>735964695I prefer F3, but NV deserves a lot of credit for being a complete overhaul of F3, which is excellent. One of the most interesting aspects of the development of NV would be the inclusion of certain features that were available to F3 through mods, like the iron sights. Unrelated, but personally I feel the discourse of NV vs 3 is dead. Both Obsidian and Bethesda live from their previous reputation as game developers, but they are unable to make games equal to their previous works. Outer Worlds certainly was not New Vegas 2 and Starfield was not Skyrim, or even F3, it was Fallout 4 but worse, much worse. Not like that is going to stop people from acting in tribal ways (heh), but oh well, them's the breaks
Why did Todd and friends make the unique loot so half-assed and lazy in Fallout 3 and 4? Was it because fans of his work are asskissing cucks that settle for mediocrity?
>fallout 3 thread>look inside>bitching about NV insteadevery time
>>735991242>>735991250I'm talking about different weapon types, an example is NV adding a new type with new animations like Katanas instead of just reskinning a chinese officer sword or a super sledge.
>>735991220It's still Fallout 3 at its core, they added a ton of QoL improvements but they didn't have the time or resources to rebuild combat from the ground up, what exactly is your complaint here? They added iron sights, mods, more weapon variety, new earnable unarmed moves, and ammo types.
>>735991220You don't even look at boxes no suck
>>735991374>cat picture>is a trannyevery time
>>735991374>new vegas tranny comes into fallout 3 thread to derail>new vegas trannies try to blame the fallout 3 posters insteadevery time
>>735991336Unique effect >>> slightly different color or length thxThe med/stim armor was fucking awesome and I died to that deathclaw a few times grabbing it
>>735980184I can accept Little Lamplight being a thing, but Tenpenny Tower just being some tower in the middle of nowhere with rich people bugs me. At least connect them to something like Talon Company where they make a profit off of using them to extort traders and travelers.
>>735991336They had to build them from scratch unlike New Vegas which is just using 95% of Fallout 3's assets.
>>735991528You can have both which FNV does. Seriously, how hard is it to give unique weapons a unique look? They don't even do that shit in Skyrim.
>>735991647New Vegas had less development time because of that yet most of the weapons are still entirely new models and they also managed to make unique items look kickass. It's not even resource intensive to do, you just put one dude on it and add small touches to the base model so it stands out yet they couldn't even do that. Bethesda post Morrowind has been terrible with that attention to detail.
>>735991643>but Tenpenny Tower just being some tower in the middle of nowhere with rich people bugs me. It's your typical white suburban gated community.
>>735988632Megaton is surrounded by wilderness. They have room to expand and make a regular town that doesn't flood every other day.New Reno families are silly and maybe too wacky, but I don't have to scratch my head wondering how they reproduce. Fallout 2 has odd decisions but the world still works. Fallout 3 is simply broken.Tourists from where? The NCR is not mentioned in F3 once, so this can't be it. Megaton? Rivet City? Commonwealth? Fucking Andale? We don't know, and neither did the writers.What's the source for dirty bombs on DC? Your own AI summary says it's not official, so it's likely using a Reddit post coming up with headcanon as a source.Who pays the Talon Company to keep things shitty? No, the show never mentions them. You're once again making up headcanon and presenting it as fact.Fallout had silly moments but overall took itself seriously. Even Bethesda did with 3 and 4, despite their work not being very good. They simply realized the average normalfag will settle for Borderlands with a 1950s coat of paint and stopped giving a shit, leaving you people to cope by pretending it has always been a cartoonish series where nothing matters too much.
>>735991528>Unique effect >>> slightly different color or length thxExcept New Vegas combined both, and then went the extra mile by making regular weapons modifiable to ensure they don't become obsolete to the unique variants.
>>735991419Because there's no point in doing this. Only autistic modders would bother adding flashy animations in these games.Even Souls games recycle animation and that's not even flashy or anything, it's janky instead of floaty(TES and Fallout)
>>735990825Skyrim was 5gb on launch.
>>73599193790% of the new weapons added in NV suck balls and modding guns in NV is basically non existant especially compared to 4. Also nobody actually does that anyway, they just speedrun to the unique weapons like Lucky or the All American that can't be modded anyway.
>>735992117I wanted to say 5gb but i wasn't sure. Last time i installed original Skyrim is in 2011 on PS3.
>>735991846Yeah, that's obvious, but if they wanted to make them comically evil and give them a reason for being rich, they could have integrated them with the other entities of the world like Paradise Falls. Fallout 3 is far from a game focused on world building, but Tenpenny Tower just sticks out like a sore thumb.
>>735992259>Also nobody actually does that anywaySpeak for yourself, I did, and it was fun. Another reason why NV is better than 3.
>>735990940Wasn't courier a cyborg? Wasn't the master melded onto a computer, isn't frank a mutant with armor and cybernetics grafted into his spleen? Isn't eden literally just a robot? Isn't every mainline evil fallout antagonist trying to evolve beyond humanity in one way or another? How the fuck does transhumanism as a concept NOT fit the games?>>735991042Mother's hip zeta was the equivalent of a 5 dollar wild wasteland experience and the Enclave didn't use repulsion fields until fallout 2. The institute and its lore is less offensive than the damage done by previous installments.
>>735992458>How the fuck does transhumanism as a concept NOT fit the games?Because of how stupid the Institute was.
>>735992426>Another reason why the expansion pack that was released 3 years later is better than 3.There'd be a problem if it wasn't, especially when you're just improving on something that already exists.
>>735992259>All AmericanIt just had to have a fucking scope. It went straight to storage. >Lucky Only people who put points in lockpicking or checked the web to know its location got it. Never bothered with revolvers.
>>735992595>It just had to have a fucking scope.That's the point, the iron sights on the Service Rifle are complete dogshit that obscures the entire target.
>>735992458>enclave used repulsion fields in fallout 2The existence of the enclave was already a major power creep, yeah and it only got worse the more sequels the original fallout had. Everyone decided to make their own "super speshul" tech faction with mega death lasers and liberty primes.
Fallout 3 is interesting when you ignore the plot and quests. The game is at its peak when you're alone in the wasteland. It says volumes about Bethesda that putting teddy bears and skeletons in positions is far better storytelling than their quests. More time and effort were spent on Ruzka the bear in Point Lookout than on the main story.
>>735967987Because no subway stations and invisible rubble walls.
>>735992507Institute were pants on head retarded. Many players headcanon is that once Nate is the leader, they stop the evil schemes. Only choice for me was going full scorched earth with the BoS. >>735992710Wasn't it a unique M4 and not a service rifle? At launch, the M4 was garbage until devs buffed its ammo type to have native or better armor piercing. CBA to remember.
>>735992735None of the quests in any of the Fallout games are interesting, they're just an excuse to get you from Point A to Point B gameplay wise.
>>735992507Whatever man, your argument is pretty stupid when you consider mecha scorpions more lore-friendly than westworld robots. That's all I'll say.
>>735964485We literally just had a thread about how a fallout 3 dev was seething over new Vegas >>735964695/Thread Fallout 3 trannies seething
>>735992458>Enclave didn't use repulsion fields until fallout 2>until fallout 2Fallout 2 is the game where they showed up for the first time.also "repulsion fields" or force fields have been a thing since the original fallout and were present in pre-war military facilities like Mariposa.go back and actually play the games.
>>735964485>"kino" is a German word. The English word is "cinema" or "movies"At least you admit it's not an RPG but a walking simulator movie game
>>735992458Cyborgs existed in Fallout from day 1 but going into straight up Blade Runner synths is retarded. Cybernetic implants aren't *too* much of a stretch but synthetic humans that look identical to the real deal through basically a shittier version of the Westworld TV show (with an even more retarded motivation for making synths than that slop somehow) absolutely are and doesn't fit the 50s retro tech thing they have going at all.>Isn't eden literally just a robot?He's a massive fucking computer that was already a thing in lore. That's the thing about Fallout, before 3 and 4's fuckery sentient robots weren't really a thing outside of ZAX which required a huge amount of space or Robobrains which are basically cyborgs.
>>735993010I'm aware that the enclave's first appearance was in 2. I'm saying the lore was busted the moment they walked on the scene, and yet people like to talk shit about the institute as if synths were the breaking point.
>>735992806On paper, subway stations would be fun if they were similar to the Metro games but in practice, they were mostly empty and not worth exploring.
>>735992931Get the fuck out of here with that on the fence bullshit.
>>735993027Fallout 2 did have some background lore in San Fran that stated that "true A.I" was a thing created in the pre-war and is even hinted that they might have been the ones that launched the nuke, though that is kind of hard to believe since it's also stated that, since true A.Is developed mental ilnesses due to sensory depravation that they were destroyed and disabled and so most robots and computers in Fallout essentially just have lobotomized A.Is instead.
>>735993168>Go find the water chip>Go find your Dad>Go find Benny>Go find your SonSuch riveting quests!
>>735993168He's right. TES have better quests in general than Fallout games. If Fallout wasn't about shooting shit up and war, it would be a snoozefest. BGS needs to lean more into the survival aspects instead of go fetch me a few things for caps in a supermarket full of guns and ammo 200 years post war.
>>735993027And yet there's a tiny little self-aware sentient robot somewhere in a specific game, in a specific DLC who manages to be suicidal despite his size or lack thereof. NV is guilty of literally everything FO4 was accused of.
>>735993093why thought? what exactly does their presence in the lore break? i think that their existence makes sense in the setting, even in the real world the U.S goverment has plans and protocols in place so that they can still remain operational if a nuclear war actually happens.
>>735993184I'm aware, I'm just saying I'm fine with a Fallout AI that requires an entire room of machinery to function over androids that are virtually identical to the real deal.
>>735993352Except OWB is the exception because it was sealed off from the rest of the world and continued to operate and push the limit where the rest of the world could not in 2077. For fucks sakes, this is the same place that had a concentration camp of Chinese to work on.At the end of the day, Fallout 4 is still dumb.
>>735993402Read the thread and you'll find a bunch of people trying to find faults within fallout's technological strides. My only point was that synths are not as outrageous as people make it seem, when force fields and sentient AI were already commonplace in previous installments.
>>735993352I always assumed Muggy was just a programmed personality and not truly sentient, like he's just a really advanced facsimile made by a guy who had hundreds of years to kill time with. And again, this shit is not meant to be taken seriously. It's silly, it doesn't ask you to take it too seriously or think about the implications too much. It's not like Fallout 4 where you can have a Mr. Handy girlfriend and then give her a synthetic body that is almost identical to a flesh one.
>>735964695spbp, and trannies can go back
>>735993637ah, i agree, it's specially weird since synths aren't even a pre-war invention, so complaining that they don't fit the rest of the pre-war 50s sci-fi inspired technology is stupid given that they already are meant to be seen as way more advanced since they were made centuries into the future.>>735993693that's actually correct, The Sink's vendor explains that their personalities are fake and that they don't even have true A.I, just a "mundane operative system".
>>735993637What about force fields doesn't fit with Fallout's technological strides? It's a bit out there but they've been there since the beginning and aren't terribly fantastical. The problem isn't with synths being AI, it's that previously the most advanced, truly sentient AI were either monstrosities that had to have an entire room full of machinery to operate or they required an actual human brain. But with synths they managed to create something that is lightyears beyond transistors and vacuum tubes in terms of intricacy but they ALSO managed to fit what is basically an entire goddamn AI in there.
>>735993939Muggy's confirmed sentient. He is the most advanced securitron to date.
>>735973740>>735974293I LOVED 1,2,3, and NV.So much so that I bought fallout 4 on release. But, the more i played it the bigger the pit in my stomach grew for how much different it was. The pacing, the power scaling, the questing, the writing, the dialogue, and the motivations of the characters... Bros. I stopped when I found the brotherhood of steel and I never picked it back up. I was so disappointed. The gunplay was good though.
>>735993939Roboskelly synths are fine, they look retro-futuristic and don't have a bunch of massive lore implications with their existence outside of Nick and Dima who are meant to be truly sapient somehow. It's the Gen 3 shit that really blows a giant hole into everything because they're the most advanced thing to exist in Fallout to date by a ludicrous degree since they're literally just Westworld TV show androids with the whole Vitruvian Man dipped into goo bullshit and everything. It makes everything else the Institute has achieved look like rocks and sticks cobbled together by cavemen, it doesn't even fit their own achievements because Todd just wanted to include Blade Runner shit without really thinking how it would fit with everything else.
>>735994227that's weird, dialogue in-game say that none of the appliences at the sink are truly sentient.
>>735994029Why do synths need an autistic reasoning for existing? They're basically just Bladerunner Replicants added to the game because it was cool the same way New Vegas added retarded hubcabs to the Legion uniform, because it's cool.
>>735972531trannies really do ruin everything huh
>>735994610Because Bladerunner is pretty advanced 80s cyberpunk and doesn't fit with retrofuturism. It's like having a steampunk setting but for some reason there are just iPads everywhere. No smartphones or digital screens or even computers anywhere else, they just have iPads in regular use as an agreed upon part of the world and it somehow doesn't touch any other aspect of the setting. Some raider wearing football gear is not the same.
>>735994576It's probably just a poorly written wiki article, you can only depend on unsourced community wikis for so much.
>>735994916>iPadsYou mean Pip Boys that nobody else besides vault dwellers have?
>>735994576I assume Muggy is an exception due to the fact that he's not even an original design of the think tank and is actually a Robco design with Dr. 0's modifications. He is also capable of living individually without the sink, so this only lends further credit to that idea.
>Some people take time out of their day to constantly bait, create memes/soijacks, falseflag, and spam arguments about two games that not only are probably older than they are, but they don't even really care about.
>Talking radiation zombies and orcs are fine but I draw the line at synths! That's too unrealistic!
>>735994976No I mean straight up flat screen tablets. Not even gears and other steampunk doodads glued on, it's a literal iPad in a steampunk setting Apple branding and all and no Apple doesn't exist in this scenario either which raises further questions just like the synths.As for Pip-boys they're appropriately bulky and at least fit the whole retrofuturist aesthetic.>>735995239That's literally the same argument fags use to argue for wokeslop in fantasy, there has to be some basic fucking verisimilitude here.
>>735995239Precisely my point, fallout even has AR-15s and bulletproof vests lying around. It's the fucking future, not ancient greece.
>735995239
>>735995425Is he wrong? No.
>>735975000>le epic 4chanx screenshot that totally proves you're not samefagging
>>735995425You know why Emil let you walk away from conversations in Fallout 4? Because he got tired of having to listen to BEAR BULL BEAR BULL.
>>735995203Eh, I just chalk that up to engine limitations since he's the only character in the Sink that's actually a mobile NPC so they likely had to code him differently. At the end of the day he's a joke character with a joke ending
>>735995239NTA, but synths being 3D printed bio-mechanical whatever-you-callems is fine. Mostly. It's Bethesda trying to have their cake and eat it too with them somehow not needing food, water, not gaining or losing weight, etc but also somehow having them be completely identical to humans under scientific testing except for having a chip in their brain. If you straight up don't work according to normal biological principles you're not going to look the same under a microscope. The fact that there's not really a clear reason for them to even exist is another problem. The advantages of being a synth needed to be walked back at least some if they're going to be so hard to tell apart, and Bethesda really needed to work out a plan.
You lied to me /v/. Where's all the cute trans girls playing new vegas??
>>735964695>Fallout 3 trannies absolutely seethingkek
>>735995997On that one, I completely agree. A biological flesh automaton would still need calories in and calories out in order to function properly, and a method of disposing waste in order to get rid of the excess.The fact that they're just like regular humans but without any weaknesses seems like a cop-out.
>>735991862not him but you arnt taking account the lore and history of megaton. The whole reason megaton got built is because the children of atom put in alot of the work. Thats why they are permitted to stay there and nobody bothers with their cult, they were almost half the founders of the settlement. Expanding away from the bomb would not only be in their disinterest, it would be alot of work in a already miserable wasteland. That time and energy could be spent trying to find food/water/valuables.The rest are not interesting enough for me to refute, there are plenty of stupid things like that in NV too but nobody ever mentions them.
>>735995997I think that's my biggest problem with them, there's so little thought put into how they work with a shitload of contradictions it makes you wonder why they even gave them the spotlight at all beyond Todd liking Blade Runner a whole lot. It's just the laziest world building imaginable and that's on top of how they don't match the aesthetics of the tech at all.
>>735964485>>735964695Why do Fallout fans hate each other so much
>>735996157>the pot is calling the kettle black
>>735996287>That time and energy could be spent trying to find food/water/valuables.My main issue is that it's location doesn't really make all that sense for a long term settlement. It would be one thing if Megaton only popped up right after the bombs dropped but there's no real reason for it to exist long term there. It's not all that close to any sort of resource and its only source of food is some grocery store that should have been stripped bare decades ago. Like beyond the initial desire to want to get into the Vault and people already being there, there's no reason for anyone to stay beyond numbers.
>>735996287The reason Megaton was built was because the surrounding people in the area were trying to get in the vault and soon Megaton turned into a tourist attraction. Even the raiders in the nearby schoolhouse were trying to get in the vault. That's actual storytelling unlike New Vegas where they just filled their schoolhouse with a couple mantis and called it a wrap.
>>735964695BASED AND TRUEASEDANDTRUE
>>735964695destroyed them
>>735964695Spbp
>>735996732>t.
>>735996732>>735996786>>735996840>NV tranny desperately trying to get the thread archived.
>>735996287It floods when it rains, anon. That's the point. Their homes would get flooded at least once a week. That's not sustainable. Whatever monsters lurk in the wilderness would be less of a problem in comparison.Even Bethesda realized this, which I assume is the reason they manually disabled rain for this one game in specific.>plenty of stupid things like that in NV too but nobody ever mentions them.Do it, then. Let's hear what you believe is comparable to Bethesda's retardation.
>>735996986>Arguing about realism in a silly game like Fallout.Are you stupid, autistic, or both?
>>735996986Novac's economy being based around a singular rocket launch site is pretty retarded especially 200 years after the war when it should have been picked clean by now.
>>735964695Yeah
>>735996986>Omg bros, Megaton is gonna flood, WATCH OUT NIGGERS!>Sloan being next to a buncha Deathclaws? Perfectly fine.
>>735997218At least Novac has the benefit of being on route of a popular trading route near a populated city and towns, they also benefit from supplemental farming and still operating as a motel for travelers/traders on their way to Vegas which is reasonable for a relatively small town like they are.
>>735997543The deathclaws moving in is a fairly recent development which would likely lead to their dissolution if it's not solved. It's not meant to be a true settlement anyhow, it's a mining camp.
>>735997762>Moving the goalpoasts You know that shit is fucking retarded.
>>735964695Avellone won
>>735997157So why is the plot of finding you dad/son taken seriously? Because Bethesda took their writing seriously, they just suck at it.>>735997218People aren't going to loot ancient rocket launch sites like they would, say, supermarkets, especially without a larger economy to support these operations.>>735997543>the Deathclaws and Sloan haven't been in this situation for 200 years.
>>735997953>the Deathclaws and Sloan haven't been in this situation for 200 yearsOh my bad, I should have known it was just Josh Sawer using console commands and spawning Deathclaws. Makes sense.
>>735997543The deathclaws took over quarry junction very recently before the events of the game though
>>735997898There is no goalpost moving, you're trying to compare two completely different situations. Megaton is meant to be a long-term settlement where people have lived for generations while Sloan is a work camp for NCR miners who have been sitting on their asses for a minute because deathclaws infested the area sometime after the Powder Gangers took over the NCR correctional facility since they stole all their dynamite they otherwise would have been able to use to drive them off.
>>735988287Skyrim is the only good bethesda game, Pajeet.
>>735997543NV trannies will nitpick the smallest, inconsequential things in other Fallouts while giving all the dumb shit in NV a free pass just because they like the game.
>>735997953200 years is a long ass time for people to ignore resources like that especially when the west coast already has established governments within 100 years. If abandoned warehouses in Detroit can get picked clean in a few years, I don't see why a rocket site should have anything left by the time New Vegas starts.
>>735998119Lol no, Sloan is just a useless town to warn the player about the deathclaws, even putting up a sign instead of doing what any normal person would do and relocate to a safer area. Another example of the game being a theme park that revolves around entirely around the player doing everything.
>>735964695war... war dinna change
>>735998119>You can't compare two towns because one town is x and the other is y even though both examples are retarded.That's called moving the goalpoast, buddy.
>>735998280Anon, considering the Powder Gangers breaking out is a relatively recent event and that immediately preceded the deathclaw infestation that means that they haven't had time to relocate to a new quarry which would likely take a while considering there's also a war heating up between the major powers in the area and they'd still have to move all the heavy duty mining equipment. If you want to be a pendant, yes, Sloan serves as a roadblock for the player so that they have an OPTION to get to Vegas but it's a very difficult one. There's still a perfectly logical reason for why the miners are still there or why the town is there, that's good world design.
>>735998435>These things same!>No they're not, here's some reasons why>NU-UH, SAME!I accept your concession.
>>735998458It's shit world design, Fallout 3 did it better by having the entirety of DC become infested with Super Mutants that will fuck you up at low levels instead of having the entire starting area being railroaded by high level enemies and invisible walls/mountains because the devs really wanted you to see le cool scripted lottery event in Nipton.
I love TTW because I can go to the Capital wasteland to murder things(that aren't marked essential) and then got to the Mojave to play and actually good game.
>>735998054They migrated there. It's stated in the game.What's the canonical reason for the Capital Wasteland not having rain?>>735998215*California established governments within 100 years.The Mojave was full of tribals competing for territory before the NCR and House came along. There was no economy to support the scavenging of Repcon.
>>735998601It's not the starting area, it's one of multiple routes to the mid-game area from the starting area that's filled with high level enemies that the player can take if they want a challenge. It's certainly better than level scaling bullshit.
>>735998519You should accept the fact that New Vegas isn't as good as you thought it was because it never was.
>>735998601>Super Mutants that will fuck you up at low levelsWe're pretending Fallout 3 isn't piss easy, now? LMAO.
>>735998726You're more than welcome to offer your competing argument for why you think that instead of saying "nu-uh I'm right" over and over.
>>735998712All the NV DLCs are level scaled. Nice of you to expose yourself as a tranny who doesn't actually play the games and just watches Youtube essays.
>>735989381Mecha scorpions are a nod to wasteland
>>735998779Where's your argument? The only thing you stated was cope about how you can't compare two towns.
>>735998791>Talking about DC and the Mojave>b-but the DLCs!!Kys tranny
>>735998890>Kys trannyYou're the one playing New Vegas.
>>735998863I stated multiple reasons how they were different. Sloan didn't set up shop when the deathclaws were there and would probably leave soon if they aren't killed, not enough time has passed to get to that exit strategy yet since they outright state they would probably have to leave soon if someone doesn't kill them.
>>735998640There's no reason tribals can't use the scrap metal found in a place like Repcon. Rocket fuel, probably not, but tribals should be able to figure out how to work with spare metal. Even then, there's no way a single facility is going to supply an entire town with electronics and other materials to economically sustain themselves for decades.
>>735998981Defend the city of New Vegas being only 2 hotels? You can't.
>>735998916You definitely have a tranny fetish, it's all you can think about. You're the type of faggot to say watching futa isn't gay.
>>735999057Engine limitations, the game can only render a certain number of NPCs.
>>735999057It's actually has 4 hotels.
>>735999070>You definitely have a tranny fetish, it's all you can think about. You're the type of faggot to say watching futa isn't gay.I already said I don't play New Vegas.
>>735999057Defend the capital city of Skyrim having 10 houses and 30 people? You can't.
>>735999045There's enough crap there to sustain a small town with multiple avenues of revenue (motel, farming) and tribals wouldn't strip it bare either.
>>735999118>Engine limitationsLook at the Imperial City in Oblivion.
>>735999057Time constraints
>>735999139>I already said I don't play New Vegas.Trannys existed well before New Vegas.>>>/lgbt/join your people
>>735999187What of it? It's about the same size if you include the entirety of the city.
