>>735965780
drivers are far better then previous years but their cards are extremely power hungry.

>>735966002
Just looked up it, wow 300-350w vs 250-300w for a 5070ti. That is a thirsty card.

>>735966123
Just get a better PSU. An 850w is like 100 bucks. And it's gonna last you at least 10 years.

>>735965780
perfectly fine
just get whatever is cheaper in your region 5070 or 9070xt. they perform almost identical in every game. ignore cherry pickers and nvidia jeets. get the cheapest card in your area.

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>>735966123
the difference varies depending on the game but yeah sometimes it's a big jump.

Many people will say it's just as good as a 5070ti but cheaper.
And on paper that's true but in reality the 5070ti is the better card if only because DLSS is better than FSR and generally speaking driver support is superior.
Raytracing is also vastly superior on Nvidia.
You can absolutely make one work and I don't think you'd regret saving a couple hundred dollars but there's a reason 95% of the GPU market is Nvidia, it's not just brand recognition.

>>735966402
Nvidia are greedy jews. £620 for a 9070xt vs £899 for a 5070ti.

>>735966402
If you use DLSS or FSR you're not getting the full experience.

>>735966402
>upscaled 720p is a selling point for a mid/high end product line
fuck off kumar i can smell the curry from here.

>>735966512
The small impact on visual fidelity from DLSS quality is usually worth the increased frame rate.
I don't want to get into an argument about fake resolution or fake frames or whatever because that's a bigger industry issue but yes I would say in my experience DLSS was always preferable to FSR and that's something worth considering
Really comes down to what games you play.

If you are going to use Linux, then yes, if not, AMD is shit, also remember to do undervolt, supposedly it seems that the core tends to die, I like their APU better, like the 8060s, and using AMD on a handheld with Steam OS.

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>>735966629
I play 2k native
Which every single mid range gpu can do flawlessly
A fucking 6800xt from 7 years ago can play modern games at 2k native 144hz so a 5070ti sure as shit can even with lumen on.
Take your shit upscaling and shove it up ranjeets asshole

>>735965780
personally thinking of snagging an ARC B70 pro, my computer is more of a workstation PC now than a dedicated gaming PC anymore anyways.
I'm sure it will have better performance somehow than my RTX 3070.

>>735966876
DLAA and DLSS quality give excellent results

>>735966217
>Just get a better PSU. An 850w is like 100 bucks. And it's gonna last you at least 10 years.
Think mine is 750. Looking into it further, I could get a 9070 for around ~530, which reports much lower power usage. I only play at 1440.

>>735965780
Fine. The only issue I had with my 9070xt was Fallout 4 would randomly crash the driver out of nowhere, but after I installed the Vulkan render translation library it never happened again

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>>735965780
Before you fall for whatever the AMD shills say, don't only look at the fps but the various tech they offer. Crimson Desert is good as a comparison since AMD made quite a big deal out of how optimized it was for the 9070xt but in the end Nvidia still looks and runs better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRpJ553RzE

>>735967103
I have a 750W power supply. I did measure my pc at the wall, and at full tilt it draws ~450W with the 9070xt and a 5700x3d (on 230V), but since I have v-sync on when gaming it always stays at 100 something.

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>>735966876
>games are so poorly optimized that devs intentionally use upscaling as a crutch, sometimes even recommending frame gen for smooth gameplay
>acknowledging this makes me an Indian nvidia shill
>even when I said 9070xt was fine
Again, OP's go-to games are going to be the deciding factor on if it's worth considering 5070ti or even 5070.
OP you could always just get an AMD handheld or laptop, I have a Z2 Extreme and they're the obvious choice in that category at least.

>>735965780
I have one and I've had no problems whatsoever. Been playing shit like RE9 at 1440p max settings and it doesn't break a sweat. I don't use FSR or any kind of upscalers because those are gay so I have no opinion on that.

>>735965780
If you are on winblows get nGreedia, if you use Penguin get AyyMD, shrimple.

>>735967297
>before you fall for amd shills
>proceeds to link with digital faggotry the biggest nvidia shills currently

>>735967297
>comparing the 9070xt to a 5080
Are you retarded? The 5080 costs twice as much as the 9070xt. Literally 630 for a 9070xt, 1200 for a 5080.

Fuck off currynigger.

Sincerely yours, OP

>>735967439
I have a PC with a 5600x, 3060ti, and 32GB RAM. I also have a steam deck. I play a very large variety of games, including emulators.

>>735967602
>>735967636
Im 99% certain that's the same dude that throws temper tantrums in the /pcbg/ threads, which have basically become a gpu brand war general.

>>735967726
Is that the faggot who always mass replies to 10-15 people at once to shill nvidia? I haven't been to /pcbg/ in a long while but I still remember that retard

>>735967636
>The 5080 costs twice as much as the 9070xt.
I bought my 5080 for €1050, the RX 9070 was around €700-€800

>>735967726
haven't been there since forever, the nvidia cultist spam is unbearable

Yeah as a 9070xt owner really just don't get this thing just get a 5070ti instead

>>735967726
Two things threw me off of the 5070ti
1) Price
2) Legacy PhysX dropped on 5000 cards

I know it sounds retarded, but if I'm replaying BL2 I like PhysX on. All the other shit like FSR vs DLSS is meh. In the worst case I just put lossless scaling on to 2x. Posting shit like >>735967297 this means nothing to me. I grew up when 'low' on PC meant a fog of war 5 feet in front of your face and models that made Walken look human.

>>735967726
Shizo-posting on /pcbg/ was boring at least 2 years ago, they never stop.
I wish we had IP count back or even better unique IDs for /g/.

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>>735967297
lol

>>735967842
Maybe you just got lucky. At my local Microcenter, the cheapest 9070xt is $700 and the cheapest 5080 is $1,300.

Anyone buying AMD these days is absolutely deranged - they are woefully obsolete feature wise, are power hungry and STILL have all kinds of issues with emulators and old games. You'll find endless issues unresolved on pcgw that only apply to radeon cards.

I personally would never buy njudea or intelaviv again

>>735968019
FSR is vaseline shit next to dlss so not only does it look worse it runs worse.

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>>735968019
>just spend twice the money

>>735968041
Well it's a trick, it's a refurbished one, the store I bought it from gave me a full warranty (1 year from the store and 3 years from the manufacturer as it is in the EU), only it didn't come with a box but seeing that it was an Asus Prime oc with a steam chamber. That generally happens where I live, people are delayed when buying something they can't afford or it was too much for what they were going to use it for (playing FIFA or Fornite) or they try to scam using the box.

>>735968019
>1300€ card performs better than the 800€ one
say it ain't so

>>735968527
But that can go both ways anon, I got my refurbished 9070XT with warranty too for €500.

>>735968534
>>735968450
Can't you buy it when it's not worth $1300? I don't know, like on sale? or buy the 5070ti?

>>735968527
>Well it's a trick, it's a refurbished one
That'll do it. I do always check the clearance section in the hopes of finding something good.

>>735968671
> I got my refurbished 9070XT with warranty too for €500.
Where I was I didn't see any like that, AMD doesn't sell much

>>735968763
The cheapest 5070Ti is still like £250 more, that's still 50% more than the 9070xt. Am I supposed to suck the leather chink's cock at the same time?

My 9070 just werks. I use cachyOS btw.

>>735968164
Njudea is owned by the amermuttoid government so expect gpu bombs soon, also nice try shlomo your shit is so power hungry power connectors burn out, only an issue with njudea garbage not to mention instagram filters being marketed as tech geg

>>735966752
Undervolting on the 9000 series isn't the same as previous generations. The voltage setting just shifts the voltage to frequency curve. You have to limit the power target to limit the voltage.

id rather just get an intel then any red turds

>>735968979
>amermuttoid government so expect gpu bombs soon
https://mysupport.razer.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6271/~/what-is-the-microsoft-pluton-processor-and-how-does-it-work#:~:text=All%20Ryzen%206000%20series%20processors,Razer%2C%20Dell%2C%20and%20HP.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/unlikely-rivals-ceos-amd-nvidia-130033465.html
the truth is you will never escape from (((them)))

>>735968450
It is easily worth that much more. The reason radeon is cheap is nobody wants them as they are effectively e-waste. The steam hardware survey doesn't lie.

>>735969226
You lost chaim and you're still ugly

>>735969226
ngl current direction of windows is also making more contemplate AMD gpus more, at least then I can go for linux

I already have a partition for it, but as I'm using Nvidia, I don't have much reason to use Linux over my stripped-back IOT W11 install.

>>735965780
It's a good card. I don't make a brand my personality like most people here. I switched from a 2070s to a 9070XT. + You have a flawless Linux experience with Mesa being in the Linux kernel, if you are interested in that shit.

amd still has weird obscure issues vs nvidia, like even stuff like mods in some cases not working right.

>>735969374
Erm, ackshually, mesa is the userspace component. amdgpu is the kernel component.

>>735969428
why the fuck would any mod maker ever bother to see if their mod works on radeon?

>>735969258
During the mining era it was shown that all companies are equal and seek their profit (obviously) even AMD GPUs were at very high prices, I don't criticize that but the reason that AMD sells something cheaper is because it sells less and that Nvidia surpasses it in certain aspects (in this case DLSS is ahead), in this case even for the AMDfag it should be better this way because they will sell the GPUs cheaper, if not, see the case of the Ryzen, I see almost all of them a little more expensive than Intel, in the end I use either brand, I like AMD better to use with Linux and on laptops or handhelds

>>735965780
I upgraded from a 4060 to a 9070XT, and the jump in raster is great.
While FSR4 is good, unfortunately not many games use FSR4 or 3.1 for driver upgrade, and FSR4 FG has an even lower dev support, at least RayTracing performance is great.
The 9070XT is somewhat of a hungry card (I use the Asus Prime model, same one in your pic), and I see it reach 315W (max use not considering spikes) quite frequently.

To be honest, I consider the 9070 to be the superior GPU, -20% performance at worst scenario, -100w energy consumption, great temperature, can be overclocked easily, and the price is more palatable.

I'm planning to switch for a 5080 in a good sale if I spot one, since I miss using a good upscaler + FG on basically everything released past 2020 (and I want to try PathTracing), but if I don't find a sale, the 9070XT can still serve me for years.

>>735969428
Poojoo desperate to market njudea lel

Fix your drivers njeet shill

>>735966573
But anon, upscaling from 240p and using fake frames is the future. I for one am glad these cards that cost $700+ require it.

>>735969671
You could just power limit a bit and still have more performance due to more CUs than the 9070.

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Pretty good.

>>735969671
I'm in the same boat. The 5080 seems cool, but it's just too damn expensive to justify the purchase. Hopefully some day card prices will get better.

>>735969592
I've only seen nvidia having issues with mods

>>735969730
>upscaling from 240p
>no 38x22p
https://youtu.be/DKCyk3CeUFY
pleb

>>735969671
After people posted about the 9070Xt being power hungry, I looked into the 9070. The 9070 looks good.

The cheapest is an Asrock card and I have no idea how good their cards are. PowerColor I'd rather give a miss. Asus is £30 more at 569.99, but I could also get a 9070Xt from Sapphire for £629, which puts them very close.

>>735969886
>AMDunboxed
Got any more fake reviews to post?

>>735965780
with the rate at which meme technology is being added to cards, it might be better to grab a 5060 ti 16gb and then ride that until the 7000 series whenever nvidia adds 10x frame gen or some shit that none of the previous cards can do.

>>735969892
Name 3.

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>>735966217
just make sure your air conditioner is up to the task

>>735969926
ASRock makes acceptable GPUs overall, I have yet to see a problem with any of their cards, with the exception of the 9070XT Taichi that uses the cursed 12VHPWR connector.
The only brand that fucked up recent GPUs is Gigabyte, with thermal paste leaking in Nvidia and AMD GPUs.
In doubt, find an XFX model, they're great.

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>>735965780
You can cheap out on motherboards, ram, storage drives, etc. You can even cheap out a little on CPU. You can't cheapo out on GPU. Don't be a fool. $300 more just get the 5080.

>>735970240
Good to know. Funnily enough, as a brit fag I would've preferred Gigabyte because their HQ is here, which makes issues easier to get resolved.

>>735970310
>$300 more just get the 5080.
It's about $600 more for a 5080. The 5070ti is about $300 more.

>>735969921
>just make your game look like sloppy dogshit
>that'll be $1300 + markup goy
No. 2k. Native. 144hz. No exceptions. Death to india.

>>735969928
Cry more Nniggercurry

>>735969996
Njudea is jeetslop

You're gonna get laid off soon poojoo they're bankrupt

>>735970417
>names none
Right so that was just FUD from an amdpoor coper as I suspected.

>>735970310
literally the opposite of what you should do
PSU and motherboard, in that order, should be of the highest quality you can manage

>>735965780
>AMD
Just buy a console if you want to cucked to AMD
PC use Nvidia. End of story

>>735970593
Anon did you have a stroke?

>>735970508
I don't get paid to post poojoo my reward is watching you become poor

>>735970593
>>735970310
Post your system specs. Prove you're not curryniggers.

>>735970593
Njudea is bankrupt like the rest of amerimuttland not even instagram filters will save you geg

>>735970525
>PSU and motherboard
PSUs are already cheap. You can get a good Gold rated one for around $120. Regarding motherboards, you can get an X870 for $350 and up you can get a B850 for $100 and most people would not notice the difference so you can cheap out on a motherboard

>>735970525
>PSU and motherboard, in that order, should be of the highest quality you can manage7
The PSU, yes, I wouldn't spend more than $50 to $100. The motherboard, not so much; something mid-range from a reputable brand with good warranty support is more than enough. Those in that range go from $100 to $200. Buying a Z-90 or an X-70 for more than $200 seems excessive, especially if you're not going to use extra connections like USB-C and extra USB ports above 3.2.

>>735970310
I'm still choosing to wait for a good sale because the price difference between the 9070XT and the 5080 is fucking absurd in my country.

I got the 9070XT for 4.5k reais ($850) on a great sale, and currently the 5080 on an average sale is 11.5k reais ($2,188).
I'm planning to sell my 9070XT eventually, but the price difference is ridiculous, so until I see a really good price reduction, I'm waiting (or might just stay with the 9070XT for many years)

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>id rather just get an intel then any red turds

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>>735970764
Sure
+ 64gb of RAM

>>735970817
there's a difference between cheap and cheaping out

>>735970836
you buy good motherboards for the VRMs not the I/O panel

>>735970838
>$850 vs $2200
yeah, then you have to go with the cheaper card. The 5080 is in no way worth $2200. You are going to love the 9070XT anyway, and it is obviously the far better bang for the buck in your country. Do it.

>>735970942
>you buy good motherboards for the VRMs
Only on Intel. The AM5 spec is so robust ANY mobo you buy is required to handle a 9950x.

>>735966123
>>735966378
Hardware-wise the 9070 XT is comparable to a 5080 except for memory bandwidth. The AI computation is even comparable to a 5090. It's the drivers and software side that lets AMD down.

The funny thing is that if the RX 7900 XTX were supported then it would probably beat them both.

>>735970942
>good motherboards for the VRMs not the I/O panel
All mid-range motherboards in that price range ($100 to $200) come with sufficient VRM and more than enough for any processor below a Ryzen 9 or i9 (and in the end, they could also handle these in stock without problems), at most they come with passive heatsinks in that area, which almost all of them have.

>>735971012
>>735971108
you also buy good motherboards for the BIOS but these days that doesn't seem to correlate with cost at all so you guys win this round

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>>735970310
Nvidia drivers have massively bigger CPU overheard, so cheaping out on it won't do you any favors. I thought this was common knowledge.

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>>735971140
uh-huh

>>735970417
>bankrupt
Delusional

>>735971134
They all have a very similar UEFI system, unless you buy some weird Chinese crap that has a BIOS, which you see in some AM5 motherboards you can get on AliExpress.

>>735971185
what the fuck is that picture. DX12 is multithreaded while DX11 is singlethreaded

>>735971336
sure but bios bugs still exist

>>735971357
>what are command lists

If players expect devs to optimize their games, players should be expected to optimize their settings.

>>735965780
If you're getting an AMD gpu, use a GNU/Linux distribution. Windows AMD drivers are still unusable. If you're not going to use GNU/Linux, do not get an AMD gpu.

>>735971432
well? what are they, explain for the class

>>735965780
I don't think GPUs are worth it atm. Stick with your 3060ti. We are in a great shift, features from today will be obsolete with the next gen. I'd say wait at least till the next GPU Gen / Console Gen.

Your GPU is not the strongest ... But you will be able to play anything that's released on the Ps5 / Switch 2. Consoomer GPUs are a meme right now. DLSS5 will be great on the 60 series. Please don't buy a GPU now. You are a /v/tard you don't do anything besides vidya and gooning. Trust me, wait.

>>735965780
Reminder that the motherfuckers tried to end support for cards they were still selling.

And features for new generation of cards won't be compatible with the current generation carsa.

Still less jewish than nVidia though.

>>735971408
That's strange. You'll know when you buy and use the motherboard. In that case, you can always update its firmware and check the manufacturer's website for version updates; they usually provide a summary and explanation.

>>735971550
>Windows AMD drivers are still unusable.
I see people say this constantly and yet I've never had a single problem with AMD cards on Windows.

>>735965780
They're fine. I went from Nvidia to AMD and didn't notice any down sides, only upsides but that's because I got a more powerful card. I also kinda prefer the Adrenalin interface to Nvidia.
In the end it makes little to no difference and you'll be ok with either.

>>735971676
nvidia literally unironically literally actually pays for astroturf anti-AMD marketing like this

>>735966512
If you use TAA instead of DLAA youre not getting the full experience

>>735971617
>DLSS5 will be great
If what they showed off is anything to go by, it certainly wont be.

>>735971567
In short a way to package multiple instructions from the cpu into a form that is very gpu friendly to maintain throughput. The key element is they are multi-threaded and a feature AMD never supported. One of the older Civ games used it heavily to stop a single cpu thread stalling the entire pipeline as it fed commands to the gpu so nvidia cards in the game obliterated AMD.

>https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/direct3d11/overviews-direct3d-11-render-multi-thread-command-list

>>735971745
nta and i can't speak for the recent drivers but that used to 100% be the case. i had to troubleshoot my ass off when using amd cards in the past, it sucked. i had no issues with my nvidia gpu and it made me never want to buy amd again.

>>735971676
>microstuttering on bloonds td 6
>driver timeouts beyond all reason
>driver timeouts on zero-k as well as a bunch of graphical glitches
>15 fps on starsector
This was my experience on windows, and none of this happens when I use GNU/Linux. On GNU/Linux I reached a solid 1,000 fps (capped it at that) on Starsector.

>>735971676
>>735971745
I see more that Windows doesn't perform the same as Linux. Although I see that more with older AMD GPUs; for example, there are games that don't run well on Windows with an RX 500, RX 5000, or RX 6000, but run fine on Linux.

>>735971842
Just like Will Smith eating spaghetti 3 years ago?

Nvidia has never had to rollback a driver or issue a hotfix because of an instability but this is a monthly occurrence with radeon.

>>735972051
yes they have lol

>>735972000
The only games I haven't been able to run on Windows with an AMD card are some old PhysX titles from 2007-8ish, but they're few and kind of niche to begin with. I've also seen YouTube videos of people running those same games on AMD cards, so it's likely possible to do with some tweaking, which I couldn't be bothered with.
So I guess that's an advantage Nvidia has, but I'm not a brand warrior so I stand by what I said, both are fine in 2026 >>735971712

I want to buy AMD in theory, but they never support older cards. RDNA 3 buyers got shafted with the new FSR, and now they are saying that RDNA 4 buyers won't get what comes to RDNA 5. I don't know how one company can be so incompetent.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1rr4723/amd_reveals_fsr_diamond_for_nextgen_xbox_but_is/

>>735972051
are you forgetting the fact that a driver just very recently caused nvidia GPUs to fucking die because the fans went wild?
>We have discovered a bug in the Game Ready and Studio 595.59 WHQL drivers and have removed the downloads temporarily while our team investigates. For users that have already installed this driver, and are experiencing issues with fan control, please roll back to 591.86 WHQL.

>>735972205
this is why I use the Studio drivers. thanks for beta testing.

>>735972193
name one modern game that won't run on these "unsupported" RDNA3 cards

>>735967103
I'm running 9070 XT on a good EVGA 650W PSU without problems, my CPU is low power tho, 9600x 65W TDP

>>735972193
There is support in the sense that older cards still get driver updates as well as game fixes, which is what actually matters most. But yes, newer versions of FSR don't run on all of the older cards.
Technically you can run FSR4 on an older card unofficially, but it's not much better than FSR3 because FSR4 is just tailored for newer cards.
If I have to be honest, the real sleeper hit when it comes to upscaling tech is actually Intel XeSS

>>735972286
quake II RTX

>>735972051
this literally just happened

>>735965780
https://x.com/digitalix/status/2036820057599197645

>>735972286
even old nvidia cards still get decent updates to dlss. radeon basically abandons their old cards.

>but muh fake resolution
It's an expected feature in 2026.

>>735972384
>1997
>modern

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>>735971550
>Linux

>>735972509
pray tell when did the rtx remix release? it sure wasn't in 1997

AMD driver memes are a decade out of date. The only issues I ever had with AMD cards are
>when I first installed the GPU software, it defaults to the work drivers instead of the game drivers. This caused lots of crashing and is probably why retards think there are driver issues. Fixed it by just reinstalled using the gaming drivers.
>the recording software just turns itself off sometimes, or when I press the save clip hotkey it saves something from a few hours ago instead of 2 minutes.

All in all well worth it, and I will only being doing AMD rigs in the future.

>>735972484
>It's an expected feature in 2026.
This is why modern gaming sucks eggs.

>>735972484
>radeon basically abandons their old cards
They don't. There's no point in an older card with less power to get a newer FSR version when the older version performs better on it. But AMD driver updates still regularly feature fixes for bugs in older cards, which aren't particularly common to encounter in the first place.

Proves that most userbase on /v/ are underage.
Your GPU isnt solely for video games

>>735966402
>And on paper that's true but in reality the 5070ti is the better card if only because DLSS is better than FSR and generally speaking driver support is superior.
Optiscaler lets you use FSR 4.0 on FSR3.0 games, and OP can take advantage of that. And the 5070Ti is more expensive than 9070XT despite being around the same ballpark. Lastly, AI upscaling shouldn't be a dealbreaker.

>>735972548
tech demos aren't games

>>735972549
Adrenalin crashes for me sometimes and my OC tweaks randomly just reset after a boot

but it's Nvidia with the latest streak of dogshit drivers considering they even managed to stop GPU fans from running

>>735972374
FSR4 INT8 is miles better than FSR3 (not that hard since FSR3 is horrible)
Obviously it won't surpass DLSS3 but it's a great improvement, considering that the INT8 is a handicapped version, it offers good image quality.

>>735972638
>Your GPU isnt solely for video games

yes we get it you like genning gay furry porn, no need to spread your aids degeneracy in this thread

>>735965780
>>735966002
>>735966123
Is it better a 9070 or a 9070xt undervolted?

The only real advantages Nvidia has are: DLSS is better than FSR still, and AMD does not have an equivalent to DSR/DLDSR, which is pretty great. I have a 1080p monitor and to this day still have no intention on replacing it because I can use DSR to play shit in 4k anyways.

>>735972669
yes yes those grapes are sour and you never wanted them anyway

>>735972706
I know FSR4 is better than 3, I'm saying that on those specific cards where it's not officially supported (you can still install it unofficially), the difference isn't as noticeable or deal breaking.
And to that one anon who suggested upscaling is just an unavoidable band aid with modern games, this just speaks poorly of modern optimization.

>>735972721
9070 with a slight overclock.
Good thermals, great energy consumption, good performance and acceptable price. The best GPU in price-to-performance currently

>>735972775
why should i care about raytracing when it runs like shit even on le ebin nvidia cards

>>735972775
To be fair, 30 year old game with fancy lights added to it isn't the most enticing game.

>>735972920
The biggest irony is that there isn't much of a noticeable difference in the visuals either. Ray tracing to me is a meme and I don't say this as someone with a weak card.

>>735972669
you may be surprised to learn there's a game beneath all the ai slop

>>735973051
yes, a game from 1997

>>735965780
Can't speak on the Windows side of things but my experience with a 7900XTX for gaming on Linux has been flawless. It crushes all the (slightly) older titles I play at 4K max settings. However, I don't play the latest titles with raytracing or upscaling on and I know those are worse on AMD. My plan is to hold off on playing those titles until the price of the GPU needed to get 4K 60 FPS native comes down to a more sane number. I have plenty of backlogged games to finish in the meanwhile. Most modern "high fidelity" AAA games are decidedly mediocre anyways.

The short answer last I checked is that its a better cheaper choice than comparable Nvidia cards in the 5060 Ti , 5070, 5070 Ti range. Its only downsides is slightly more power consumption than a 5070 Ti or if you're just attached at the hip to NV proprietary bullshit. The AMD 9000 series has FSR4 / Redstone compatibility which is a big step forward over FSR3; it also has MK/compute chips for the same reasons and does reasonably well for a mid to mid high tier card , provided you aren't a dunce and only use a prefab config that exclusively is prepared for CUDA; AI, rendering and the like locally works fine with 9070XT in almost all cases if you set it up to use the proper tech one way or another. If you have interest in Linux, the drivers are phenomenal, FOSS and basically built in even for gaming or 3D render/compute. Windows drivers are..fine for the most part, but even NV drivers on Windows these days can be a shitshow depending from version to version.

If you are looking at different AIBs, most any of them are okay, preferably those using the Honeywell PTM7950 TIM pads. Some use 2x 8pin, others use 3x 8pin on the higher end. There are only 2 models that use 12V2X6 connectors, the AsRock Taichi (which is otherwise good but doesn't use the honeywell cooling pad) and the Sapphire Nitro+ 9070XT, which is one o those that tends to be the best of the best, but you do need to be careful that the connector is plugged in all the way and isn't tweaked by the little 'compartment' the plug is in or the cables involved. XFX has a few models and their high end ones with the removable magnetic fans are good, but like most XFX they're all stupidly overpricedlast I checked. PowerColor is pretty solid and a good choice, they have a handful of variants and I know the top end RedDevil (there's also a white version of this) are good. Asus has PRIME and TUF (sadly, no ROG Strix) and both are solid too.

>owns 5090 Astral + 9070XT Nitro+

>>735971050
The 7900XTX is still the most powerful Radeon GPU in raster performance.

>>735971050
>Hardware-wise the 9070 XT is comparable to a 5080 except for memory bandwidth.
No, I have a 9070xt, and it's just a fact that it's lacking crucial hardware to be able to run pathtracing well. For pure raster with regular maxed out raytracing, it's more comparable to a 5070ti.

>>735965780
it's the best card you can buy for linux
which you should be on unless you're brown

>>735972721
>>735972874
9070 XT is a much better choice if you can get them at MSRP price difference.

>>735971617
I agree with this. I got an XTX for the raster muscle and I'll probably sit on it for a decade while the AI/upscaler clusterfuck sorts itself out, there's no point in getting in the early adopter game here regardless of manufacturer. If it gets too cancerous I wouldn't be surprised if this is my last video card 2bh.

>>735965780
Was thinking about that too but i found out it shits the bed on UE5 games (and when using RT) so I fell for Nvidia again and bought a 5070 instead, seems fine so far.

>>735975926
9070 and 9070XT runs fine on UE5 games, even better than the 5070.

>>735975926
what are you on about, rdna4 runs ue5 slop better than nvidia

>>735971050
>Hardware-wise the 9070 XT is comparable to a 5080 except for memory bandwidth
Quite literally false considering it trades blows with the 5070ti in raster and loses to the 7900XTX in raster.

>The funny thing is that if the RX 7900 XTX were supported
Leaked INT8 version is around a 10-15% performance hit so it'd be behind if you're using FSR

>>735976915
>>735977041
hello saar please buy amd

the real difference is workstation usability
amd has no real answer to cuda

>>735977570
nvidia's full-stack monopoly would be considered illegal in a first world nation

>>735977340
I swear AMD niggers will straight up invent benchmark data and performance feats to defend their brand. I know a whole family of AMD consoomers and they get totally lost in the sauce when you start mentioning technical aspects. My closest friend who's an AMD fan can't even tell you the brand of his GPU or even how many gigs of VRAM he has but swears "it runs in 2K 240fps bro" but nigga you bought this shit in 2016, you gotta test it on something other than Diablo 2.
>>735977728
You're starting to ask the good questions but coming to the wrong conclusions.

>>735977570
I bet that 85% of 4chan don't use their GPUs for anything else besides gaming, so this doesn't mean much

>>735977340
No Sanjeet, I will not buy a Nvidia card to generate AI videos, go back to your street diarrhea lemonade

>>735974856
Yeah if its £200 difference between a 9070xt and a 5070 just get the 9070 bro. Not worth the premium at all. Those gpus literally trade across every single game.
If you have the money to burn, go 5080. Obviously but thats a fucking flag ship level card and again, you make the call if +20% perf is worth the extra $400-500

>>735977770
>You're starting to ask the good questions but coming to the wrong conclusions.
sorry mr jensen i'll amend my answer to be "nvidia good amd bad"

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>>735977770
nvidia is worth the extra mone-

>>735965780
dogshit

>>735977974
now try an unbiased source

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>>735978019
everything is paid damn

>>735978019
Saar only njeeta approvinged sources be applyings please be including frame gens numberings

disappointed.. it's not a good match for my 9950x3d..

>>735978212
Thank fuck sabayon isn't in that image.

>>735965780
I've been happy with my 9070XT
But if you care about Raytracing and AI usage Nvidia is still better if you value those and don't mind paying for it

Using AMD is like using an android phone - it outs you as a poor who accepts second rate, knock off low quality products.

I have one and its good except for the drivers, I still use drivers from September last year because its the only stable ones I've used so far.

>>735968019
I don't think a single person is trying to argue that the 9070xt is better than a 5080?

>>735977805
>If you have the money to burn, go 5080
Might as well get the 5090 if you're a paypig or save the money and wait for the node jump next gen.

>>735978430
but android is better if you're competent since you get to do jailbreaks and custom roms
iToys are just marginally better at the cattle experience

>>735978430
Isn't Android more expensive than Iphone nowadays?

>>735978430
Please be supportings njeeta sar desi relyings on supportings of brahman frame gens

>>735978430
...bro root kit android is literally the white persons non spy ware phone

I refuse to buy a Nvidia GPU with that shit connector, I don't know how you guys have the courage to use something like a 5090 that eats a shitload of energy with a minuscule frail connector

Anyway the collective seethe from RDNA4 owners when they get rugpulled by AMD will be worth it.

>>735979048
The connector is fine - it is user error that makes it go wrong.

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>>735977340
>>735977770
AMD is fine on UE5, what are you talking about.

>>735979208
>techpoweredbyAMDup
lol, lmao great source anon

>>735978516
I went from a 1070 to a 5090, it's great.

>>735979324
Saar only be usinged njeeta approvinged reviewings

>>735979208
>$800 GPU
>60fps
>$4000 GPU
>90fps
amdchads stay winning at cost efficiency

>>735979173
no, it's objectively fucked
the power draw safety margin is much lower and functionally you only have one cable that can't differentiate between different wires as opposed to two/three/four cables that all are individually more secure

>>735979461
No, shut the fuck up, it is absolutely user error.

>>735970310
no dumbass, you should go ham on literally everything else other than GPU(goy processing unit)

>>735979506
Saar please be not mentioning power connectorings

>>735979506
purchasing that GPU is user error

>>735979506
if use error is such a serious concern then it sounds like it's a shit connector

>>735979506
there are dozens of dissertations about how fucking shit the connector is yet you choose to still worship nvidia
kill yourself
in an 8 pin you have 3 wires each delivering up to 50w, 150w total and each 8 pin is rated for 250w, a 40% safety margin
in a 12vhpwr you have 6 wires each delivering up to 100w, 600w total and the connector is rated for 680w, a 13% safety margin
adding the fact that each 8 pin handles its power delivery separately while the 12vhpwr has it all bundled up and you have a truly shit connector

>>735979791
It's not a serious concern though, it's a concern to users but users can't be taken seriously.
For real nigga you have onions wrists if you can't plug that connector deep into the socket like you would breed your girlfriend. That's all it needs.
>>735979920
So why does it just work? Explain then how my PC hasn't caught on fire yet.

>>735980008
>i will suck off this corporation making an objectively shittier standard just because it hasn't hurt me yet
go fuck yourself

>buying a product from a company who stops adding features to old generations after a 2 years

ISHYGDDT

>>735965780
They're alright but the problem is that windows 11 is straight up dogshit. Avoid that and you'll be fine.

>>735980008
8pin
>plug it in
>just works
>literally perfect

12pin
>plug it in
>hit it with a hammer a few times to make sure the contacts are right
>optimize cable management to make sure the cable isn't bent 1 degree too hard
>pray to allah every time you open a video game that the system doesn't decide to pull 600w through one pin

>>735979920
Typical AMD niggerry like I explained above how my buddy is unable to tell me how much VRAM he has, like AMD retards will invent data out of thin air to justify how their brand is so magical and the best, and somehow they get on the defensive when you push them into factual things.
>>735980106
On my way to fuck your mom in 4K 144fps for just 550€.

>>735980316
>4K 144fps
4K with DLSS Ultra Performance isn't 4K

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>>735979125
I don't understand why they haven't backported FSR4 to RDNA2 and RDNA3. The leaked build shows it can run (poorly, but it does run) so refusing to support it creates unnecessary bad PR.
AMD is already losing market share, so you'd expect them to lean harder into consumer-friendly moves to win people over, like they did with Ryzen (offering features such as overclocking on non-K CPUs and long-term motherboard support).

>>735979656
>>735979920
Does anyone knows how much money is Nvidia saving by using the 12VHPWR instead of the 8 pins that everyone has been using since ages ago ? Wasting time developing the 12VHPWR, then using it instead of the tried and true 8 pin feels like a waste of time and budget

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>>735980316
this is publicly available information you fucking cultist
you could choose to watch literally any video about the connector but you chose to worship the richest corporation on the planet because you're that much of a parasocial loser
it would take you just a few fucking minutes to research this, pull that dick out of your ass

some of the 9070xt models also come with the meme connector
I hope nobody fucking buys this shit

>>735980540
disappointing to see sapphire do it

>>735980540
Meme connector that's been used in servers since forever without issues? Based.

>>735980316
>4K 144fps
yeah in cs 1.6 maybe.

>>735980540
It doesn't take 2 minutes to find multiple reports of the 9070XT Nitro+ burning because of the shit connector.
There's like a dozen of 9070XTs with 8 pins, I don't know why people insist on the shit connector variant

>>735980734
well then it probably should stay in servers then
it has no business being in GPUs

>>735980203
so you dont buy nvidia?

>>735980734
what servers are pulling transient 600W+ loads

>>735980734
>since forever
it was invented in 2022
why are nvidia shills so fucking disingenuous?

>>735980475
nigga, no one worships jewvidia. there's just literally no fucking alternative. and no, AMD isn't an alternative. It's fucked but what are you gonna do? Buy a fucking ARC? lmao

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I have used nvidia my whole life I had a 5070 but I had to sell it to pay for some bills and ended up getting a 9060xt for 400 it’s a bit less powerful than my 5070 but I haven’t really noticed and having 16gb of vram is based I do miss a few things but other than that I’ve never had a problem with it

>>735980768
I specifically shopped for my 9070xt based on which connector the model uses
not gonna fall for this meme shit no matter how hard it's pushed

>>735980445
They aren't doing it because the software development time is better spend on their instinct support. Gamers are 100% irrelevant to radeon.

>>735980445
They can barely support their current drivers and there are two (2) games that support Redstone despite it releasing almost 4 months ago. Probably to do with UDNA being incompatible with RDNA4 and they don't want to set the precedent.
>like they did with Ryzen
Radeon has always been subpar and Ryzen got complacent and once again Intelaviv is right on their heels.

>>735980734
The servers use multiple 12v-2x6 connectors vs one on consoomer GPUs btw. Might've not been a disaster had they had the thought to put another 12v-2x6 on their thousand dollar GPUs.

>>735980916
>nigga, no one worships jewvidia.
a retard that blindly defends 12vhpwr clearly does

>>735980829
It's because nvidia removed redundancy rails in their board design. 600w loads on a single rail. Based!
>>735980908
Technically it would make me an AMD shill considering I was defending an AMD card. Based!

>>735980312
My dear guy I swear you only have to secure the pin into the socket with your heart and soul, Ask your girlfriend to do it for you if you don't feel it.
>>735980475
Redditors will find any excuse other than they have limp wrists and can't plug a fucking cable into a socket correctly.

>>735980916
AMD is perfectly fine and more cost-effective unless you "need" AI bullshit

>>735981069
well clearly not based on how failure prone it is
if a user is somehow able to incorrectly plug a cable in then its a failure of a design and needs to go back to the drawing board

>>735981069
what a pathetic cocksucking loser you are
the connector is scientifically worse than 8 pin
stop coping
you're such a fucking loser that you'd defend chinks making fake concrete and killing people if it was nvidia doing that

By the way I helped a friend buy a new PC and when trying to figure out which GPU she had (AMD), I realised it takes a fucking degree in quantum space particles to just know the model and revision of the older GPUs.
Again that's a point for Nvidia. I'm not even mad like I'm not shitting on AMD because I'm a cultist or anything. The way it's presented to me, I just don't have any interest in AMD. If they did things better it would be more interesting. Not wasting time launching command prompts and checking in online databases just to know what fucking revision of a GPU I have.
>>735981383
That's why I said you can't take users seriously.
European here so things are a bit different on our side of the pond, if a retard at McDonald's burns himself with a burning hot coffee it's not the fault of McDonald's. We also have warnings that you must not dry your wet dog in the microwave, so people tend to not fucking do that, know what I'm saying?
You pulled out some data and I thank you for that, it's pretty interesting but it doesn't change the fact it's an efficient design and if it's plugged in properly then nothing bad happens. Just like you wouldn't use a 12V cable on a 5V device, etc. it's fairly common knowledge that you should be careful with your devices.
It's common sense, the oh so famous.

>>735965780
went from 3070 to 9070xt because 5070ti was about 400 bucks more expensive in my third world country and so far so good. was worried my 5600x might be a bottleneck but the gpu does the heavy lifting and Im playing games maxed on 1440p. so I dunno, maybe I got lucky with crashes but if you really dont need nvidia for ai shit, 9070xt is good

>>735965780
Stay the fuck away from AMD. Less features, dogshit drivers, dogshit support, and they are even more anti-consumer than fucking nvidia.

>>735982132
so when's the last time you owned an amd gpu?

>>735982234
7900xtx so the flagship for the previous gen.
Fuck AMD.

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>>735981021
>>735981035
I get that gaming isn't their top priority, but it feels like they're actively inviting bad publicity. Like when announced they were stopping performance improvements for RDNA2, that these cards would only get bug fixes and security updates: why even say that?! They could've just kept releasing "fake" driver updates without mentioning it. Even if RDNA2 wasn't getting real improvements anymore, people would still feel like their hardware was supported.
Nvidia supported Pascal cards until last year, even though meaningful performance gains had stopped looong before that. If anything it's the other way around, GCN cards aged way better even though their "official" support period was shorter. But because updates kept coming, users felt supported. It's mostly PR, but it works.

They should just backport FSR4, purely for marketing reasons. It can't be THAT difficult if randoms on the internet have managed to do it in their free time. Even if performance isn't great, that's not the point. Nvidia backported DLSS 4.5 to Turing, it runs like shit and it's effectively unusable, but people are happy their cards are still mentioned in patch notes.

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I run the game at 30 fps low setting but my 1660 ti still get hot to 86-88° Celsius. Should I think about undervolting ? It's a laptop with a good cooling setup but the thermal paste might be need to be done after all these years. Also those upscaling options just add a lot of shimmering to me too so I don't bother turning it up.

>>735982048
there is a reason why connectors are different shapes and sizes anon, if a connector design leaves room for user error that causes permanent damage then it shouldn't be used
I would rather just have 2 8pins that will never fail than a faulty connector

>>735982369
Sorry the game in question is Crimson Desert*

>>735982265
and you're talking about bad drivers in an age where nvidia expects you to vibecode everything?

I bought a 7900xtx to be fast as fuck boiiii in raster. It serves that role well.

>>735982048
> I realised it takes a fucking degree in quantum space particles to just know the model and revision of the older GPUs.
Yes installing gpu-z or looking in adrenalin is too complicated for the average nvidia user.

>>735982048
yeah it's much easier to tell which nvidia card you have because half of them gimp you on VRAM

>>735982660
Or the models where they changed the core config but keep the same name.

>>735982535
100%, but drivers are the least of the problems. AMD is very, very anti-consumer. A fucking 2070 super can run FSR4.1 right NOW and a 7900xtx cannot because AMD doesn't want to cannibalize their sales for their dogshit 9000 series. They can emulate fp8 through fp16, they can just release int8 official DLLs, they can even make fsr open source and let us do it. They won't because they're fucking faggots. There are also already rumors that the next generation of FSR will be tied to a future gen and they won't support even the 9000 series with it.
Stay the fuck away from AMD. You're not just sacrificing features like worse meme-tracing, less support for things like reflex (which is VERY important to make framgen feel decent), but you're letting them fuck you in the ass with no vaseline. At least ngreedyia lubes you up first. Also AMD cards can be hit or miss on older games as well. Take Dragon Age Dark Arisen; runs like a complete ass until you go through the work of using dxvk and setting that up to run properly. And even then there are retarded shader compilation stutters.

>>735982048
your gpu-z???? just how incompetent are you?

>>735982805
>dragon age dark arisen
you got so blinded by the hate my friend

>>735982961
kek, brainfart. You know what I mean. Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen

>>735982535
>where nvidia expects you to vibecode everything
https://www.amd.com/en/blogs/2025/how-to-vibe-coding-locally-with-amd-ryzen-ai-and-radeon.html

>>735982783
definitely more pro-consumer than amd btw :^)

>>735983023
jensen came out and said his employees are expected to use up $250k in tokens
nvidia users are holding on to old drivers because this shit is vibecoded

>>735982369
Undervolting can be a pain in the ass since it requires stability testing. A simpler approach is to slightly reduce the maximum frequency and let the system manage voltage automatically.
Also yes, thermal paste needs to be replaced after a while. High-quality pastes can last five years or more, while lower-quality ones may dry out in as little as two years. There's also the pump-out effect to consider, especially with exposed dies like yours.

If you don't already have a tube of thermal paste on hand, you might want to consider PTM7950. It's relatively expensive (around $20 for a single application. Cheaper on Aliexpress, but you may get scammed), but it offers great performance (better than the best pastes) and lasts forever. And it's not electrically conductive, so there's no risk of frying your computer.

>>735983140
Go watch AMD's keynote from CES.

>>735967297
>9070XT: around $750
>5080: around $1500
At double the price, I expect double the frames. The 5080 is giving me double the frames over the 9070XT, right?

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>>735983223
>Undervolting can be a pain in the ass since it requires stability testing
lol

>>735983316
No reason to get anything other than ARC going by that argument.

>>735983490
No, it's either AMD or China GPUs.

>>735983562
>moore threads
>international release

>>735965780
They're great. I have a regular 9070 and have no issues with it. Also you can go full Linux in case you're fed with microslop's shit. Totally worth it either way.

>really wanted a 5090
>cheapest is 4000 fucking bones
Guess I'll just be a 5080 cuck

>>735965780
you won't feel an increase in performance with amd. stick with goyvidia

>>735966123
You can lower the power limit of a 9070xt to 250W or so with no performance hit.

>>735983490
b580 is in line on price to performance with the 9070

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>>735965780
i swapped from a Titan Xp to a 9070 XT last week, I just used DDU to remove all my nvidia drivers and now my radeon is a massive step up in nearly every way (I just need to set fan curves, but the stock is fine.)

In terms of driver issues and stuff I think the main issue is people not using DDU to get rid of the old nvidia driver stack.

>>735965780
Name one game the 3060ti can't run.

I kid you not, while watching this thread I was playing Ghost Of Tsushima (mediocre game to say the least), and my 9070XT started to show driver errors, now I'm doing a rollback on my driver to fix this mess

>>735985265
seems legit

>>735984006
If that was true they wouldn't have it sucking so much juice to begin with.

>>735965780
Used my 7800XT since 2023 and haven''t found a single game that made me think I need to upgrade yet.

>>735985265
same thing happened to me on my 5070 ti

>>735980540
Honestly glad I didn't get all gungho and get the Nitro+ during black friday because at the time I didn't know about those connectors. I'm content with the 8pin Challenger I got.

>>735985515
Not exactly, these GPU chips have their consumption cranked almost to their limit to extract almost every single drop of performance. After that, there's the overclock you can do depending on the AIB that made your GPU

>>735985721
>No performance hit
>Cranked to extract every drop of performance
Contradiction. At a lower power you also don't need as beefy a cooler which when this means a big lump of copper or similar means you can make the card cheaper, which if it still performs the same is a massive advantage in competitive pricing.

>>735985515
usually the juice sucking is to do with binning. better cards can undervolt further whilst keeping the same boost clocks (or even overclocking).

worse silicon needs more power to do the same and keep it stable.

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>>735972484
>even old nvidia cards still get decent updates to dlss

>>735985515
9070xts are overvolted to minimise the amount of RMAs they're getting, they can't just serve you a minmaxed card because for all they know it's going to crash
look at the 9070 if you want to see actual efficiency

>>735985971
Or just buy an Nvidia seeing as they are apparently both more efficient and more capable.

>>735985875
I'm not the previous anon, and GPUs having their energy consumption cranked almost to the limit isn't something new, even if you can only acquire 1% better performance

>>735986027
Nvidia do the same thing regarding undervolting btw, you have to make the cards as retard proof as possible for the consoomers.

>>735986091
It being an old trick to try to squeeze the last drop out of a weaker design to try to make your shitbox somewhat compete with a Ferarri is true but it's still a brute force hack rather than elegant design.

>>735965780
AIslop really a fun toy to play with. Pick RTX 5060ti at least

>>735986240
not really, thermal limits on these cards make what you say patently false for the last decade or more of gpus.

you sound a bit like someone who hasn't undervolted before. here's how it goes:

you take your stock card, you lower the voltage on the card incrementally whilst stress testing it. When it eventually shows instability, stop there. bump it up a notch, and then stop working on the voltage.

Then start increasing the core clocks incrementally. Ideally you'll get to a level that is at or higher than the 'boost clock', even whilst pulling fewer watts thanks to your undervolt. Once you reach instability under stress tests, you then pull it back a few mhz, and halt.

Then you do the same for memory overclocking: bump it up a notch until you get instability, then pull it back a notch and stop.

Now what sets the efficiency of your card is the silicon binning: better cards do more with less power. just increasing the voltage and bumping up clocks means you hit a thermal limit and nothing much will happen, maybe you'll even get WORSE performance.

>>735986714
In the mid range AMDs are efficient but when they try to push these cards into the high end performance bracket they're causing brownouts in your neighbourhood and you need to strip off to be in the same room as it. At the high end Nvidia are a lot better there.

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>>735965780
Hey, that's the exact same upgrade I'm making
I literally just bought my 9070 XT today
I'll miss AIslop being plug and play on Windows but I hear AMD cards are still great for that if you use Linux

>>735987121
>Linux

>>735987062
>and you need to strip off to be in the same room as it
Thermals are about the same btw

>>735987062
that's not true because pushing too much electricity through the card will cause it to heat up and then throttle down performance, like i just said. At the moment the cards are at max wattage for their coolers because they want to avoid returns like >>735985971
said.

You're quite wrong. lol

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I'm playing modern games on 1080p max settings with this

You need more?

>>735987419
is that a GPU (generic model)? yeah you don't need more.

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>power consumption
lol

>>735987572
>5w difference with the 5090

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>>735980445
FSR4-int8 probably won't have an official PC release because it was co-developed by Sony.

5090 or bust

>>735966512
DLSS is better than native 4K resolution now

>>735966876
>all gpus can get 144fps at 1440p native on high-ultra
Okay hes spewing shit lmao or only playing 20 year old games

>>735986027
>can undervolt nvidia gpus by 100-150mv while increasing core clock by 200-300
>ayyymd most youll get is 50-80mv undervolt and no oc or driver will reset now and then

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>>735990871
>try new UE5 slop star rupture on a rx7800
>90-100 fps at all times
>native 2k
>turn on ray tracing
>50-60fps
Is err, this supposed to be unplayable or some shit because this is perfectly playable.

>>735965780
I would've got a 9070XT if amd weren't so shit. Having the raw performance is nice but they lack in every single other department which is where nvidia is just better. I'd rather buy a 5070 and have less raw performance but actual functioning and refined features than going into a game with shit optimization and finding out it only supports FSR 3 which defeats the purpose of having good raw performance when you're forced to use upscaling anyway but FSR3 is a blurry mess of garbage compared to even DLSS 3 forget 4.

>>735991224
You said 6800xt
And now youre listing a 7800 with even lower fps

>>735966402
>Many people will say it's just as good as a 5070ti but cheaper.

This whole "the cheaper option is better" is bullshit and misinformed.

No, you don't get a faster, better or equivalent card by spending $200 less, thats just not how it fucking works, sorry bud.

The misinformation comes from the CPU market, where Ryzen is better in gaming than Intel's 200 series which cost upwards of $200 more.

Because Ryzen are designed just for gaming, Intel are "productivity", the use case is different.

GPU's on the other hand, they're for gaming, period, you aren't going to get better performance for $200 less going with AMD this time because you're not comparing a "gaming" gpu with a "productivity" gpu, both NVIDIA and AMD are gaming focused.

tl;dr shut your fucking mouth

>>735973806
>5060, 5070 ti range

that's a big fucking range dude, you might as well say "yeah your honda is comparable to a fiat or a bmw"

>>735987419
Is that an RX 580?

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>>735965780
>buy a 9070XT
>constant crashes to desktop and weird errors
>buy a 5080
>everything just works

>>735986091
>>735986240
>>735986714
What you do is
>copy settings from a Youtube video
>your 5080 uses 50-100W less for same or slightly better performance

Worked out for me.

>>735965780
AMD is a horrible idea after they announced their next gen of GPUs will have AI acceleration, and thus the 90XX series won't have any support going forwards.

>>735965780
RDNA4 is already abandonware

>>735985515
GPU voltages are tuned for the worst case quality silicon so they can have higher yields and make/sell more GPUs. Most people won't have the worst quality silicon so you can reduce the voltages to get better thermal performance and efficiency. Or even sometimes get better performance at lower voltages (undervolt + overclock).

>>735965780
why the fuck would you buy anything from nvidia when the gtx 1060 -1080 ti run like 99% of good games that are worth playing
i bought a 3080 pc in 2022 and returned it
they sent me to jail for returning it but it was worth it
im not even joking america is so corrupt.
i curse that the general public will know 100% of the way society currently works

>>735966402
nvidia shill
its all fucking garbage
the industry peaked at like 1080/2080 ti
every single thing after is a ai generated scam lol

>>735992268
aka dont buy anything from amd post 900 seiries
looks like all modern hardware from companies like that will be ai nonsense
smart move is to get a gtx 1080 ti
the peak of nvidia
then get whatever the chepeast good amd card is from the 6000 7000 or 9000 seiries and never upgrade
desu i wouldnt even do that
i think ima just fix my gtx 1070 pc
throw in a 1080 ti
throw my 1070 in a rig i have a dying 1660 super in
then grab a handheld pc and pirate everything
or emulate

>>735993017
Huh that's funny didn't know you were no longer able to still game and use a 1080/2080 ti

fucking idiot retard

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>>735994926
>Paint marks are in the trans colors.
Checks out.

>>735994880
jump in a lake parrot

The 9000 series are so lacking in terms of architecture design that their next FSR version won’t support them even when they are just 1 year old.
Something to think about.

>>735995839
That's one of the reasons I'm going to switch from a 9070XT to a 5080, though not now since the 5080 costs almost triple the price where I live (and the 5090 costs almost triple the price of the 5080)

>>735995839
who the fuck uses fsr
oh boy time to game at 360p cuz the devs didnt optimize
you know what
i honestly think i can have a better experience gaming with the only pc i have left that isnt shadowbanned or remote shut down
my 750m laptop
why does a 2013 laptop run better than modern hardware
this pc with a 1660 super and a i5 7500 cant get 60 fps in 2007 bioshock
not the remaster
the 2007 game
the hardware is fine
jewvidia and kikerosoft just shut it down cuz i wont buy their open ai garbage gpus
or upgrade to win 11
and it is costing them a very big spiritual loss
and they are butt hurt and trying to torment me to death

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>>735965780
>>735966002
amd cards are perfect to keep you warm during winter so go for it anon

>>735965780
I like mine a lot. Went from a 3090 to it because i switched to Linux and it works nicely