Denuvo patched out their protection, hypervisor no longer works
>putting denuvo on a bunch of roms one can emulateIs capcom alright?
>>735970175Who could have foresaw this cumming
pirates are kill
piracy has always been a cat and mouse game, the mice just stopped trying for a little while
Denuvochads can't stop winning
>>735970175Looks like all those retards joined the FSB botnet for no reason lol
>Piratebros made denuvo run even worse for paypigsThats a victory in itself.
Props to them if true, at least they are fast to react.
>>735970175:skull:
Still not installing Hyperslop
>>735970539funny, their botnet isn't working because I can't see suspicious activity on my router log.
>>735970175I dont care. I'm an offline activation chad.
>>735970175cool. they should just make it always online. that would kill piracy for good.>but my turd world internet unstable not my problem really
scoliosis and carpal tunnel balding fat retards be like >AYO BRUH WE GOT EMULATORS AND PIRACY N SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETand then wonder why nobody takes their joke of a platform seriously or wants to associate with its userbase
>>735970590KEK TRUE
>>735970674The monkey's paw curls.
>>735970175pcjeet brothar saars, it is ovaar
>>735970175why does that matter when you can literally go and find previous versions of pretty much any program/game? they will find a fix by using a previous version of the software
>>735970175Didnt found this on r/PiratedGames therefore its fake.>inb4 hurr durr you are le redditorReddit is 100x times more trustworthy than this shithole.
>>735970391Fatlus put denuvo on a literal PSP port
>>735970715>picThere's less than 1 man for every woman. Wonder what she does to deserve one of the men that doesn't play computer games?
>>735970590BASED, fucking BASED
>>735970175already debunked
>>735970634Yeah bro the ring -1 botnet is totally gonna show up on your fucking application logsYou're so good at computers
>>735970634once you're inside the networks it's child's play to hack the router
>>735970391they probably have a bespoke package deal with denuvo
>>735970715what causes this amount of seethe? were you molested by a PC
>>735970856>more trustworthy >90% of posts are "meme" flairs
Capcom has enigma, there's no need for denuvo.
>>735970950>application logit's on the router logs, fucking idiot, I knew you were a retard, but not THIS retard>>735970950yeah bro, just break the AES-256 encryption of my router, it's that easy!
>>735971034That anon is a simp obviously
>>735970590
>>735970715This anon is a pajeet obviously
>>735970590>the cancer grows yet againaccelerate
>>735970590HOLY SUPER TRVTHNVKE
>>735970391denvuo is like cloudflare, if you don't pay them for protection your newly released game will have a day one crack, oddwhy cloudflare, well if you don't pay them for protection your site gets spammed and ddos'd worked so well in the 2000s now look at them
>>735971160This
>>735970715Yjk the bitch that posted it looks like this. Also if your partner is going behind your back to dunk on you online, it's time to gtfo
>>735971039Doesn't having a tag for posts that aren't serious make them more trustworthy because you can tell which posts are real?
>>735970590oh no no no hahahaahaahha btfo'd them hard
>>735970175OH NONOT THE HECKING VM CHECKERINO WHAT WILL THE HACKERMAN DO NOW????
>>735971306bro is into being pegged and has a humiliation fetish. many such cases
>>735970175and?just NOP it
what new megaman gayme are we talking about sir?
>>735970590cope
>>735970674Denuvo already is sometimes online.What does that mean?Simple. It randomly requires internet access or else you can't play the game.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE MEGA MAN ROMS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>735972098dilate I'm literally gaming with HV right now you won't do shit
>starforce roms got DenuvoCapcom's kikery knows no limit. And that's why I refuse to buy anything anymore.
>>735970590BASED
>>735971895/thread
>>735970590Denuvo performance hit also affects HiV users.
>>735970175The game of cat and mouse continues.
>>735972490Thank God I don't have AIDS
>>735972307>Starforce was the most kiked DRM of the CD era>Starforce collection gets the most kided DRM of the modern erait's like poetry, it rhymes
>>735970590paypiggies not like this lmao
>>735970856This anon has a point. Does a faggot like OP seem trustworthy at all?
>>735972490Whatever, i didn't pay a cent anyways- paycucks on the other hand...
>>735970856>the site where you must go with the premeditated correctness decided by a tyranny is more trustworthyAn opinion that is expected of a frognigger.
>double click Denuvo EXE>size 20GB>initializing and preloading checks please wait>have to play literally 1 hour until checks complete>game boots up>black screen>loading shaders please waiting>3 hours have passed>start menu>VM checks please wait>5 hours have passed>press any button to start the game>loading please wait>6 hours have passed>finally inside game>pressed a button to quckly not in the AI approved manner>please wait checking if human is playing>Denuvo tells you something is sus>please verify your ID that you are the owner the Denuvo game>upload gov ID to Denuvo>please wait we're checking with Israel 4th party whether you are the real owner>you're not real the owner>Palantir gets the info>you hear drone noise near your windowthis is the future paypigs chose
>>735972809As opposed to this thread where people like OP come in from their discords specifically to spread misinformation and overreact?
>>735972665>0 releases on r/crackwatch since yesterdayIt's over
>>735973107there are no denuvo games left to crack
>>735970391They ported the games to RE Engine, actually.
>>735973145There are about 50 denuvo games left to crack, Mega Man Star Force legacy collection being the latest
>>735973036Yes. I would rather trust a site where there might be occasional trolls over a site where facts can be censored when they don't aling with the "truth".
>>735972951thankfully all denuvo/invasive drm games are irredeemable dogshit so it's all good
>>735973317All these games are shit
>>735973317>playable on Emulatorthere is nothing left to crack, nobody wants the F1 2021 shit or Madden the fuck
>>735973317Berserker Khazan is cracked tho
>>735973317 OH NOOOOO BALL BROS!!! HOW WILL WE PLAY THE LATEST BALL GAME
oh no................... anyway
>>735973317Oh no! What would we do without Madden!
>>735973540>paying for tokens>sucking off a troon on trooncord
>>735973339>occasionalYou wouldnt believe the amount of times people just straight up lie about games here now.
>>735973653>paying ????
>>735973726>don't want to sit in queue like a good dog>pay for this token and get le instant accessdon't act like you didn't suck off multiple troons and paid up
>>735973887there is no queue what the fuck are you talking about
>>735973970I'm talking about the queue you faggot. New shitters who join won't get shit and especially not those who want new releases. They get milked. You either suck off the main troon who distributes the token or pay up or sit months queue because others limited tokens.
>>735974153I joined like 3 weeks ago, didn't pay anything and already beat 4 games and didn't wait in a queue.. why are you roleplaying fictional scenarios in your head? Seek meds
>>735974153Milked for what? Suck off how? I have never posed a single message on the lounge, just get tickets with the self serve system never interacting with another person.Do you really need to activate a new game less than every 48 hours? That's the only free limit.
>>735970590truth supernova
>>735974253sure thing, just a random anon out his good will and noble heart gives out le free tokensyour PC is probably multiple times over triple infected with malware and aidsware
>>735974407Lmao you don't even understand how the tokens work? Yeah they're going to infect your pc with a .txt file, so scary.
>>735974525I'm not using their shitty tokens or their CMD files to download "their" games... lmaoyou dumb fuck sit in a trooncord begging with temporary tokens you are fucking retarded fuck you idk why I'm even replying to this troon sodomite
>>735974614So you're just salty because you were too retarded to figure it out and got banned?
>people find a way to break through a protection>company enforces the protection>repeat for eternityyes retard thats how things work
>>735970175>Give information to Russian botnet>Can't even play the games any moreLOLLMAO
>>735974796I don't use trooncord at allwhy even when DenuvOwO drops day 0 HV bypasses or voices38 drops full blown nuclear cracks
>>735974896[citation and qoutations needed] fag boy OP already btfo'd in his own thread l2read
>>735970175a game with denuvo thats worth playing still needs to be released for me to care
>>735971895This isn't 1990, grandpa. Defeating Denuvo is not "just" nopping out some code.
Create a valid denuvo token on a completely isolated, separate device where you bypassed hypervisor entirely, before transferring the cracked game files with the valid token on your actual gaming machine.With this method:>you avoid the humiliation ritual of waiting for discord server Denuvo online activators (lmao) >you don't put your important machines at risk>you spend $0 if you have an old computer sitting around that you wiped cleanREQUIREMENTS:>two braincells>a cheap or old computer with sufficient storage capacity for bloated slop games (512 GB), CPU architecture that supports virtualization techniques(VT-x for Intel and AMD-V (SYM) for AMD)check your BIOS to see if these technologies can be enabled>said machine is not connected to your current network or other devices remotely, and has nothing in it that could damage you (referred to as CRACK MACHINE) >external HDD or SSD if you're extra paranoid (but it doesn't matter)GUIDE TO BECOME YOUR OWN OFFLINE DENUVO ACTIVATOR:>Download pirated game of your choice with the hypervisor crack and convenient VBS.cmd script file on your gaming PC (DON'T RUN ANYTHING) >transfer it locally to a SD card, USB flash drive or external HDD then onto your CRACK MACHINE >run the VBS.cmd script on CRACK MACHINE>restart CRACK MACHINE>run your Denuvo game once>transfer installed game files, steam manifest, crack DLL files (goldberg) to external SSD/HDD>then onto your gaming PC (optional if paranoid) >have steam open on gaming pc>launch game>have fun (for one month) You can now play Denuvo games for free, with no sensitive data put at risk on your gaming machine. Hypervisor method isn't inherently dangerous, the underlying risk lies in the cracked release files themselves potentially containing dangerous stuff. But at that point, it's no different from regular piracy in terms of exposure to malicious stuff. You could avoid all that hassle by paying for games but >buyfag right.FUCK IRDETO
>>735970175It was fake you dumbass
>>735975530oh yeah what other additional miracles you have to do?
>>735970175Lmao Trannyvsor didn't last that longEnjoy being hacked. Should've listened to me when I said no Denuvo game is worth pirating or buying
test
>>735975620based
>>735975769That message was fake. Only this was real
>>735975620>temporaryngmi
>>735970175does this mean only future hv cracks arent working with the same method theyre using now or are current hacks also fucked?
>>735974945so you don't have any idea of how it works outside of looking at threads on here, what a faggot.
>>735975858you aren't fooling anyone
>>735975620>no anri okita pictureshit post
Option BHard Mode : Name 1 good game with Denuvo.Impossible Mode : Why are you playing that over the hundreds of verified good cheap/free classics, indie gems, investing in the hobby in any other level that isnt surface?
>>735975620That won't work, hypervisor crack doesn't generate a valid token you can use in another machine, it bypasses the checks using the driver installed every time you run it, you need to run the VBS.cmd on the gaming machine.If you already know all of this might as well just pay the 1 dollar on Plati on whatever and generate a token for yourself.
>>735976078Check DenuvoOwO discord. Its already confirmed as fake by KiriGiri
>>735970175Never touched hypervisor, never bothered downloading pirated games, yet I have access to some russian steam account with 400+ games for like $17 and receive denuvo system files via discord drops from the owner, along with 50 or so other people that share exactly same account for years, and there are hundreds of them
>>735976038I know exactly know how it works.You put your lips on that average sized tranny cock and you make sure your tongue makes twisting and jerking motions until the tokentroon comes with his sterile sement into your fucking mouth. Then you look up to the tokentroon while you keep sucking harder on his cock and he tells you in his strong male voice: "this one's on the house, next time you pay up".And you, as you gag on that trobbing cock, agree in submission to come every day into that trooncord because your hunger can't be satisfied with a single temporary token.
>>735970715>caring what foids thinkLMAAAAAAAAAAO
>>735976382That.. that sounds kinda hot, actually fr fr
I am so out of the loop here can someone explain this token shit? I knew about the Hypervisor exploit, but what is this token stuff?
>>735976717You have to insert tokens to play the games, duh
>>735976150I literally did it and it works
>>735976717If you own a denuvo game you can generate a token, that token can be used in other machines to play the game without owning it and needing a crack or bypass.People use this to share games on discords, and you can also buy accounts for 1$ on places like Plati and generate tokens yourself to play in multiple devices, I do this to play on my Deck since HV doesn't work there.
>>735970590>mfw I haven't bought a new game in like 6 yearsmost modern pozzware is just trash, man
>>735976865It doesn't, you probably ran the VBS.cmd on your gaming pc without noticing, or you're lying.Running the game once on you "crack machine" does literally nothing, no files in the game folder get modified by running it once, so copying it between computers does literally nothing.
>>735970175>piratesthe way it works is the FBI tracks down people who do this, then give them an option A) goto jail for 40 years or b) work for Denuvo.So every pirate they catch makes them stronger.
>>735976992So I have Black Myth Wukong on steam via legit means. I can give you the "token" and then you can download the game via say a torrent, use my token, and play Black Myth Wukong ? But only Black Myth Wukong?
>>735970175I'll give it a few years to see if all these tards get fucked and if not I might consider it. Not like im in any rush to play crappy modern triple a games anyways
>>735970175if this were true SSD prices wouldn't have hit the roof
so how long did the hypervisor last before irdeto patched it? like two months? lol
>>735977148Yes exactly that, there are some tools on github to generate the tokens, it's just a text file.
>>735973317>mfw just checked the whole list and there isn't a single game I give a fuck aboutholy fucks its ogrealso how its mhwilds not there? that shit has kikenuvo too I guess
>>735977092it LITERALLY does work. I haven't restarted my main pc in months
If I were a Janny I'd ban you for spreading disinfo and fakes against PirateGODS.
>>735977316>pond scum instead of the corpo
>>735976125>indie gamesthose are shit too
>>735970175Just like I said when this crack shit came outI still don't fucking careThere's nothing worth pirating in the first place
>>735978164Youre depressed
>>735978164but what about overhyped shit sequel game n9 unrelated to the whole franchise that only shares name because otherwise it wouldn't sell shit?
>>735978289Maybe but that's irrelevant to the issue at handI'm just gonna keep playing free and cheap things because at least sometimes those devs care
>>735977224What exactly do you do with the token to make it work? Can you just use the clean Steam files or do you also need Goldberg or whatever?
>>735970175None of these games using HV are even worth playing lmao
>>735978738Just goldberg yeshttps://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=153493
>>735978289You're addicted.
>>735979103We all did. To this website
>>735979172No, to games. Denuvo games objectively suck.
>>735979565I enjoyed Khazan
>>735970175>He fell for fucking fake newsRetard
people who are cheering for the death of piracy are literally brown and esl.
>>735970175Oh no, i'll have to continue emulating generation 4 5 and 6 games instead. How awful.
>>735979796but browns and esls are the ones commenting en masse on fitgirl's page...?
>>735977056fuaaaark its over for me. monhun and bf6this year's full priced aaa slop for me is forza horizon 6 and crimson desert
>nothing mentioned anywhere on thisfake news
>>735980624>reading shit on pirate sitesbased underage
>>735973317>Oh man, we can't play...>...>Uh...>...>Street Fighter 6?
>>735977279Those are the uncracked ones, wilds is long cracked.
>>735970391>EnigmaDRMalware on top of DenuvoNo, no they aren't.
>>735973317good lets see what i want to play>its all shit>khazan is the only one that looks interesting to me and for some reason it have been on my steam for 2 years i believeoh no the horror!
>>735982182>>735973317Khazan already cracked. Fuck that Viper boss
>>735970856It's kinda sad that this is actually true.
>>735970590FUCKING DENUVO
>>735982394Not fully cracked right, just a Hypervisor workaround?
>>735983002Yes
>>735980624>>735981881seed plz :) :) :)
Kept telling you dipshits that these shitty bypasses weren't the way but people don't want to listen
>>735970391They're source ports
>>735970590you do realize that HV doesn't remove the denuvo so everyone gets a worse experience
I'm sure all 50 retards trusting their PC to some Russian scammers will be sad about this
>>735977610I'd trust the pond scum more than the corpo these days desu
>>735970590Put me in the screencap
>>735981978how come the steam page still says it has d*nuvo?was it cracked or demo-bypassed or something?
>>735985632at least I'm not paying for it :)jk I don't even play that garbage even for free kek
>>735986602Lmfao thisHonestly why not just find a really cheap legit copy? It’s a fucking digital copy you can get keys for like three dollars
>>7359878343 DOLLARS ?ARE YOU GONNA MAKE ME BANKRUPT ??
Irrelevant because no good game uses denuvo.
>>735970590If everyone was a degenerate pirate, then no games would get made anymore. Would you sneak into the theater or steal a book from a library?
>>735988280>Sneak into a theater or steal a book from a libraryWait, people don't do this anymore?What the fuck went so wrong
>>735988280>If everyone was a degenerate pirate, then no games would get made anymore.
>>735988280>Would you sneak into the theater or steal a book from a library?People actually do these all the time and yet we still have theaters and libraries. Funny how that works.
>>735988280>sneak into the theaterThis isn't theft, no copy is removed. Even if you made a camrip, this still wouldn't be theft.>stealing a book from a libraryI think I accidentally stole one book from a library. Accidentally. I'll make sure to mail it back to them without a return address before I die.I also have a couple of games I rented from Blockbuster. Nobody is coming to repossess those for obvious reasons.
>>735970673>I'm a retard who pays2pirate
>>735970175Fake and Homo like op
>>735988356It's absolutely hard to believe how badly you need my cock in your tight ass.
>>735970175they 100% control all the piracy shitor at least most of itfitgirl being the most sus.its a way to get software they cant publically releaseonto peoples pcsor to run a gigantic botnetthey dont have full control. so they try and get stupid people thru shit like thisi still think piracy is a important thing to do to try and starve the megacorpsbut not at the cost of doing shit like hypervisor or likebuying a expensive ass pc to pirate and all the hddsi say just use what you ownif you have like say a 2012 retina macbook with a 650mor anything around a gtx 650 or betteryou can play alot.like alot of games loleven more if u get some cheap ass laptop or a steam deck
>>735990146nobody games on MAC fool. it's for professional and artists not fucking video games
>>735988280pirating is like if i went to the libraryborrowed their copy of a dvdand ripped it to hard drivethe person doing that would not be stealingthey would be making a copythe "rights holder"is just salt lolyou cant stop someone from buying a tableand then making a copy at home for their own personal use.
>>735970175Eat shit poorfag pirates. You killed the chances of Mega Man ZX 3 and Star Force 4 in the first place.
>>735988280Until capitalism actually pays workers a fair share instead of the majority being pocketed by the leeches in management then I'm not paying.
>>735970175>Megaman CollectionMost piratefags don't play rom compilations though. They just play the original roms of the games on an emulator. This hurts the casual consumer more because denuvo hurts the performance of the games.
i like buying games tho
>>735990204what part of they are shutting down everyone hardwarewhy wouldnt i game on a working 650m ?that is enough to run every xbox 360 that works on wine at 60 fpsyou could even install batocera or winesap osand play even more games lmao
>>735970175>fake screenshotshiggydiggy
>>735991293Do you enjoy getting kicked in the balls too?
>>735970590ACCELERATE
>Mega Man Star Force Legacy Collection (Hypervisor) (INTEL & AMD) - DenuvOwO
>>735993759empress38 tranny about to hang himself after seeing these news
imagine being a 3rdie piratenigger right now>let miners assrape your pc as you download and install fatfag's repacks>let unknown code assrape your pc further as you unlock your pc's hypervisor to play the game
>>735994010gonna cry empresstranny? not getting donations anymore? lolz
>>735974153i paid $1 for re9
>>735970590holy fucking samefag
already cracked btw, you bunch are absolute retards
>>735970175Nyoooo!
>>735999295>crackedWhy doesn't it say HIV-bypassed instead?
>>735971175>why cloudflare, well if you don't pay them for protection your site gets spammed and ddos'd worked so well in the 2000s now look at themI've noticed this shit too, sure is convenient that little self-run websites that shouldn't be attracting attention at all, 'mysteriously' get DDoS'd. Back in the day the only DDOS attacks would be to huge websites due to government or political scandals and such. And we're expected to believe that generic harmless websites get attacked? Yeah sure thing.
>>735988280>If everyone was a degenerate pirate, then no games would get made anymore.Don't threaten me with a good time.
>>735970175Just emulate the old games you idiot.
>>735970175>Pirating DS roms repackaged
>>735970715>and then wonder why nobody takes their joke of a platform seriously or wants to associate with its userbaseGood, don't want them to.
>huehuehuehue i'm going to gloat about hypervisor and rub it in everyone's faces>wait why are you patching out hypervisor wtf stop you're not supposed to do thatBrowns really are the kings of raping themselves
>even pirating went to shit>they dont even make proper cracks anymoregrim
>>735994169>everyone who is against hypervisor is now empress samefagging for clouttwo more weeks
>>735970175Is there any game with denuvo that is worth even playing? I'm asking seriously here.
>>735999563Recommend something that's worth emulating!
>>735971007They dont, Sega has that because they got it back when Denuvo was newCapcom routinely removes Denuvo after the launch window profitsCapcom is just retarded
>>735970175I want to make games and specialize in anti-piracy software. I want to make a pirate's computer explode if they even try to touch the code.
>>735993759Uhhh denuvosisers, our response?!
>>735982025That combo DRM is part lf why Wilds massively flopped tooThey try to kill each other and massively kills performances
>>735970590That makes no sense!
Ok cool... so is this guy going to crack more games or what?
>>735970175but the games that already cracked is still good right? im like halfway through re9 right now
>piracy doesn't result in lost salesDo people actually believe this, or do they just pretend to?
>>736000972I've bought games that I pirated. I've never pirated a game that I bought. Therefore pirating has a direct positive impact on sales. Checkmate, atheists.
lmao now a bunch of retards have let RU/CN backdoor their PCs for no reason (the free games were a lie)
>>736000972There's actually whole paper on this subject
>>736000972Lost sales implies that, if there was no piracy, the pirate would be a paying customer. Fundamentally, pirates had no intentions of paying for it from the start.
>>736000972It absolutely would in a world without DRM.That said, DRM has made me value my time more than my money, so I'm not buying games that I would have pirated otherwise.
>>736000972DRM results is lost sales for sure.If the dev is a thieving scammer using malware, who is not going to hand over the product and respect the transaction, they will not get my money and in fact I will encourage everyone to pirate from them and bankrupt them.
>>735973317man.. gaming is COOKED
>>736003390DRM increases sales, but only for like the first 1-3 months. After that it is more of a liability when you get charged fees for something nobody is buying anymore. This is why Denuvo offers limited time plans.
>>736003576>DRM increases salesThere i no evidence of this.I never met a single person who was like>I was going to pirate this but it has malware on it.>clearly I should pay full price day one and give this scamming dev all my money so I can not own the game and play a compromised malware infected version at diminished performance.
>>735970590Put me in the epic screenshot
>>736003784Neither have I, because nobody actually thinks that way. They either don't know or care that Denuvo is DRM and are impatient to play the game which is why they will pirate if available. Or they already know and do care so they would never buy it.
>>736000972imaginary sales are not sales you filthy kike
>>735970590You mean people who bought games with Denuvo won't be able to run them on actual virtual machines? Does that mean Linux nerds with QEMU passthrough setups got fucked as well?
>>735970175I used to be into game hacking and sometimes you had to use VMs to get a debugger attached to them. I forget how game devs used to detect it but it wasn’t hard to bypass and just involved manipulating a couple of bytes.
>>736004301I think he just means Denuvo will be running even more checks on legit buyers than before, which may slow down performance even more. But it also makes sense that they wouldnt run on virtual machines anymore.Also that post was fake so none of it really applies.
>>735970502>piracy has always been a cat and mouse gameto be fair, you can play like 95% of vidya for free. the majority of games still comes without denuvo. And even if a game has denuvo, the maximum is 2 years. Just like console exclusives in the past.Denuvo isn't even a threat. Some titles were cracked wtihout hypervisor shit. The much bigger threat is future cloud gaming, where you don't even get the binaries and everything is streamed to your machine.>inb4 first triple a cloud only title.
>>735970715>NOOOO give me your money and subseritude >NOOOO you must die in my wars and consume MY media men are btfo the society that turned their back on them
>>735988280Triple A games wouldn’t be made anymore because the profit motive wouldn’t be there, but niche indie games definitely still would. And those are the only games with Geist.
>>735970175
>>736005596Also: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>735972098should I cope by pirating more games?
>>736005596Why are Denuvo simps like OP? How many times must denuvo shills get btfo before they learn their lesson?
Kirigiri is unstoppable, they better pay HIM fast to work for denuvo before its too late.
>>735989468I've never paid a single cent.
>>735970391Asian devs are just retarded that's it.
>>736003032Which the EU suppressed.
>>735970715Women are so delusional lmaooo I work in landscaping it takes like 1 hour a week at the most to maintain your yard. You best believe after 8 hours in the sun I'm sitting down and playin vidya on my pc.
