You don't hate localizers enough.
>>735971531Good thing they are getting replaced by AI.
>>735971531What is wrong with this?
>>735971667No idea. OP didn't include the fucking japanese.
>>735971531he's supposed to be an obnoxious gaijin though you fucking retard
>Gaijin with an obnoxious accent translated as a gaijin with an obnoxious accentJust go back to being mad about accents in Dragon Quest or something at least those are made up
>>735971531literally nothing wrong with this
>>735971531What's wrong with this one? He's supposed to be the weirdo foreigner character and since the game is already in English, they made him French to keep that foreigner aspect for Americans.
Nothing wrong with comfy 2000's translations trannyIt's the Demakes we hate and you're not changing that
My like Bebased
>>735972006>>735971945Is that true. If only there was some way to verify that. Some kind of digital image of showcasing the same scene but in Japanese. You know the language the games was originally written in and is being translated from.
>>735972341Look for it yourself if you're so concerned about it.
>>735972440Sorry I didn't realize the japanese text was optional for a thread about the LOCALIZATION of a JAPANESE game.
>refuses to learn 日本語 despite liking 日本 media>is seething about lolcalizers insteadpleb
>>735971610Good morning saar
I don't hate /v/ enough actually
>>735972440OP seemed pretty concerned about it, he should be providing it.
>>735971610AI is even worse than troonlators and localizers. Learn Japanese
>>735972868I sure hope this thread doesn't have the same insults and five hundred billion diagrams and comparisons that have already been posted hundreds of times while bitching about localizers.That would be terrible. Especially if we got paranoid about how often we post it and started scrubbing MD5 hashes so as to not appear in the archives, fooling nobody but satisfying our own sense of anonymity.
>>735973065>GTA in Dehli or MumbaiI mean... I'd pirate it at least.
>>735971610they arent. 2 more weeks
>>735971531who cares? even an accurate localiaztion won't save this shitty social linkthis SL is actually worse than the one with the fat ramen eating faggot
>>735974072>five hundred billion diagrams and comparisons that have already been posted hundreds of times There's new stuff every so often but, and you made this point with the five hundred billion, we wouldn't have the same comparisons being made if the responses weren't always the same bad arguments. If someone says "japanese can't be translated one to one" the go to response is obviously going to be an image of a translation completely altering the meaning. If you say then it's rare obviously the response is going to be a dozen more images of the same thing. If the response after that is no response then of course people are going to repeat it. Why would someone not use an argument that hasn't been defeated? These comparisons aren't made because people enjoy the act of arguing about translation, they're made because people don't want those kinds of translations. No one is going to handicap themselves to make it more interesting for people too lazy to come up with a compelling response.
>>735971610Not good enough. They need to pay reparations for all the vandalism they did.
quick, translate "Suki desu" coherently without localizing it into English vernacular in any way
What do you think of the hot spring scenes?
>>735975505Part of it is people shitting in the well too because literally nobody is going to listen to somebody eating his own feces and ranting about lolcowlizers and troonslators
>>735975598what meaning has been removed or altered from the original name of that monster? you do have the original japanese text that proves this to be a bad translation, right?
>>735975790It can't be legal to use a spiked dildo like that on people even if they spied on you in the baths.
>>735975598This bitch doesn't even speak English
>>735971531He's supposed to be speaking broken Japanese, so broken english is perfectly fine.
>>735975790The girls should be naked too
>>735975790If they actually had that happen in the game exactly like the image, would Atlus have been legally allowed to release the game?
>>735975790The absolute state of Junpei's penis
>>735973065unironically kino and make Indians look cool. Why would racists post it?
>>735975893tbf, just reading what she said it wouldn't seem accurate. You can't say for sure, but this is a really strange way to frame a translation decision.
>>735975790They all look so weak and rapeable
>>735975893I do.
>>735975598>clearly a rhino beetle>TEEHEE PEE PEEI'm surprised Trails games even have a western audience considering all I see of them is the horrifically botched localization
>>735976520okay, now explain why "magnum dong" is an invalid translation that alters the meaning
>>735976543the original is "don dongu", the penis reference was already there. idiot
>>735976052True
>>735976520She mentioned it's a big version of the dong enemy? is ドン added?
>>735976706This was stated poorly. Is the normal version ドング and the big verision ドン・ドング?
>>735976574It's written in fucking katakana. An elementary schooler could translate it correctly.
>>735976626Is ドング used to mean penis in japanese?
>>735971531French talk like this tho.
>>735976795you seem to have misunderstood the assignment. let's try again. what meaning has been removed or altered from the original? be specific.
>>735976835They invented Expand Dong.
Having to try and translate "character that speaks in broken katakana japanese to indicate they're an english speaking foreigner" into english is the worst. They have my sympathies.
>>735976893I don't believe there to be a penis joke. Magnum Dong is also a reference to an American sitcom. I don't believe ドン・ドング is a reference to a japanese sitcom.
>>735975776There is fondness.
>>735976939Expand Dong is an american meme no?
>>735976893Its name was changed.You're probably retarded enough to think translating ダイナストゲイル as Beatdown doesn't change anything.
>>735976939no they didn't...
>>735976990on what basis do you not believe that?
>>735976958Just have them speak in a thick Texan accent, assuming they're meant to be American.That's how the rest of the world see American english.
>>735971531Expedition 33 dialogue is like this
>>735977035It's like UR MR GAY, the meme was there to be discovered.
>>735976473>They all look so weak and rapeable>mfw they are not>mfw they turn it around on you and domm you
>>735976626Japanese dont use "dong" as a reference to penises you retarded nigger. Dongu is the name of the normal enemy and it's Don Dongu since it's a boss version.
>>735977076This works until you have a Kansai or Tohoku character show up
>>735977050that wasn't it either, but you're getting closer. let's try one more time, and then we can move on to the next student. what part of the original name's meaning was removed or altered?
OI ARRYINNIT A DATE TIME MATE
>>735977173Just have them speak in a thick Japanese accent, since that is how they sound to the rest of the world.
>>735977064Because ドング isn't a word in japanese. It seems to be a made-up name.
>>735977143it took me less than five minutes to find an example of Japanese using "dong" as a reference to penises. you are just wrong about this, actually. https://daimaoh.co.jp/item9157.html
>>735976958make them sound stilted and weird. like "it is good to be meeting you". "what is the name you are called?" etc
>>735976574Maybe if you weren't a retard, you would know what "Magnum Dong" references. And maybe if you weren't an EOP you would know that ドンぐ doesn't mean penis.Even the monster description is mistranslated.
>>735977641Do that these days and you'll have a ton of retards screeching "ESL! AI TRANSLATION!!!"
>>735977686see >>735977426
>>735976958>broken katakana japaneseJuSt WrItE aLl ThEiR dIaLoGuE lIkE tHiS, eAsY pEaSyIf you want a real answer, ALL CAPS USUALLY DOES THE TRICK, ESPECIALLY SINCE MOST FOREIGNER CHARACTERS ARE AMERICAN AND AMERICANS ARE LOUD AND STUPID BY DEFAULT
These trannies love dick jokes so much they're willing to defend shitty localizations for it, kek.
>>735977923Here's your (You), uppity yuropoor-kun.
>>735977118That's acceptable as well
>>735977957no one has proven to my satisfaction that it _is_ a shitty localization, and it looks like you've stopped trying altogether. trans derangement syndrome is treatable :)ftr I do think translating "don" as "magnum" for the sake of a cheap meme reference was a bad call because the two words have slightly different connotations even though they can both mean "big"; I'm not defending the localization as much as expecting people to justify their stance that it's bad
>>735971531What is it exactly with LolCowLizers and accents anyway? No one likes this shit and it just makes it worse.
>>735977803I don't think you can use that product listing. Unless you think the enemy is a reference to powerhead and their adult toys. That's very specific.
>>735977003sorry, but no. suki(na) doesn't mean "fondness"; it's an adjective, not a noun. you just localized it to English vernacular
>>735977426Congratulations retard. Now search "ドング on google with safe search off, and tell me when you get a dildo picture.>>735978210>I was just larping as a trannylator to troll .
>>735978294
>>735978401do you think the Japanese website is marketing their penis-shaped toy as "suupaa dongu" to its Japanese audience completely at random? they're doing that because "dongu" is a word they associate with penises, and they know their audience would associate it with penises as well.
>>735976626>>735977426If you weren't an EOP faggot you would know that:1) ドング in this context is clearly a play on ドングリ, the Japanese word for acorn, which the monster resembles greatly. There is absolutely nothing in that design that resembles a penis.2) The Japanese do not use use "ドング" as slang for penis, ever. My 1000+ hours of eroge experience can vouch for this, as well as jpdb's word search finding the word "ドング" used in only two novels out of thousands catalogued--in both instances, as someone's name.
>>735978474>search "ドング on google with safe search off, and tell me when you get a dildo picture.what a coincidence! that's how I got that result. in less than five minutes, like I said.
>>735978654>My 1000+ hours of eroge experience can vouch for thisHoly shit mentally ill coomer go outside.
>>735977426Is the a japanese manufactured product?Because it looks like it could just be a product with an english name.It literally says Super Dong in english on the box.
>>735978654>The Japanese do not use use "ドング" as slang for penis, ever.>literally replying to an example of the Japanese using "ドング" as slang for peniswhat stage of grief was this again
>>735978727>Wait a second... I recognize that bulge!
>>735976704why is Aigis not naked then?
>>735978739the manufacturer is Japanese: I googled "トアミネット" and got this Japanese adult goods company, which is most likely the same one https://www.toami.com/. so the point still holds, actually
Is the trannylator wannabe still defending the trannylator?
>>735979027refute it with salient points instead of slurs and I'll stop :) also look into Betterhelp for your obsession with 1% of the population, it's not healthy for you
>>735979146>refuteI don't think you "spending less than 5 minutes" counts for an argument. If you spent more than 1 minute to get the result, then your result wasn't even in the first 3 pages.No one is taking you seriously, and hence why everyone is calling you a retarded faggot.
>>7359796291) you can't prove it took me more than 1 minute2) the point you made was "Japanese NEVER uses dong to mean penis", and even just one example of that happening is enough to refute that. and I gave that example. you can cope and seethe with the edgy gamer words all you like, that won't make you more correct :)
>>735976520>didn't even try to translate the flavor text correctlyWhat's the excuse for this?
>>735977426Not saying you're wrong, but that doesn't really prove it's commonly understood slang, anymore than an American hentai site using something like paizuri means that's common english slang.
>>735978654>My 1000+ hours of eroge experience can vouch for thisI respect your strength
>>735978590It just a listing. You can see the staff review. This is just the name of a product being sold. Imagine arguing that>Enemy in game named ドング>Finds a listing for a product called パワーヘッド(スーパードング)>Clearly this is a referenceIf that's the argument shouldn't the translation be the name of an America dildo?
>>735979828>that doesn't mean it's commonly understood slang, it just means it's commonly understood porn slang
>>735979828you'd be right, that example alone doesn't prove it's common. but the point was to establish that it happens at all
>>735979901Not everyone is a porn-addled coombrain like (You), jackass.
>>735979978This entire thread is, howeverbeit.
>troonslator shill is actually googling black dildos in order to prove their troonslation is fine
>>735979885>hmm, the Japanese manufacturers of this penis-shaped toy named it "dong". I wonder if they did that because dong is also a word for penis, a fact that they knew and that they assumed their audience would also know>...nah, that's just too unrealistic to assume. clearly they just rolled three katakana at random and named the product that way
>>735979828Not even. Paizuri is a search term you use to find stuff in that genre. This would be like taking name of a doujin you found on a hentai site, and then using that as a basis to translate an enemy name in a completely unrelated game.
>>735979146>>735979629>>735979787I will just mention that 1% of the population is the most terminally online, vocal minority group on earth. Not even trannies refute this. Transgender people are almost all internet addicts and feel terrified in the real world so they come here to soapbox. When the trannies tried soapboxing irl it lead to normalfags electing Donald Trump twice. Even the normalfags find you so insufferable they would rather tank the economy instead of giving you free tax payer estrogen. If only they kept their heads down, instead they poked the bear.
>>735980060>"i-i just need to find the right reaction gif, then I'll magically stop being factually wrong!" sobbed the gooner, tragically too coombrained to _actually_ prove himself correct
>>735980139You are just assuming. Can you not find a production description describing the rationale behind the name?
>>735979974>the point was to establish that it happens at allAnd the Japanese don't use it, anywhere. Find one example that's not a literal dildo using English slang they copied from American dildos.
>>735971531In Chrono Cross every character says the same thing just with funny accents
>>735979825>a famous tv-show/movie producer might see this and finally offer me the big writing job I was always meant to have
>>735980268>they don't use it except for that instance where they use it, but that doesn't count because, uuuhhhh, *throws dart at board* it's a loanword! everyone knows that loanwords aren't _real_ Japanese>>735980259you haven't sufficiently demonstrated why I need one when I can just use occam's razor and come to my correct conclusion instead :)
>>735980258>gif when its a png>calling someone coombrained when xe is literally googling plastic nigger dicks to defend a localization inserting penis jokes where they dont belongCope and seethe and dilate
>>735976234Racists are retarded. Imagine being a complete fucking loser but you see a guy with the same colored dick as you pass by in a Lambo and think that means you're just as smart and successful as that guy
>ignoring the point that ドング was an obvious play on ドングリ>still insisting that some random dildo product listing means "dong" is in every Japanese person's lexiconSevere retardation or merely pretending? You call it.
>>735980520Cool it with the antisemitism.
>>735980258>_actually_>>735980462>_real_Which gay nigger website is this formatting from? Reddit? Discord? Either way, you should go back.
>>735980462They also have a product named スパーホルド. >https://daimaoh.co.jp/item13126.htmlDoes that mean any instance of ホールド you see is a penis joke?
>>735973065Grand Saar Auto
>>735980470sure, it's a png. go ahead and take that win if you need it to feel good about yourself. maybe that'll help you come to the right answer eventually :)>>735980564>words can only ever mean one thing! double entendre? what woke DEI bullshit is that?>words only exist in a language if every single person on earth who speaks that language knows them! slang? what woke DEI bullshit is that?
>>735980564Does the regular form's text help your case?
>>735979901>it just means it's commonly understood porn slangI don't think that's true. Ask most people who jack it to Pornhub what Paizuri is, and I can almost guarantee that the wast majority has no fucking clue what it is.
>>735980776We get it anon, you don't want to admit you were wrong. You can stop throwing a tantrum now.
>>735980830Nigger, normalfags knew what bukkake was even if they pronounced it as "buck cake"
The lgbtq hates AI because their low IQ troonslation jobs are being replaced by saar AI. Google just cracked the code for RAM issues with AI and you have a million fags on twitter having a meltdown that AI is now improving its physical capacity limits for hardware while ram prices drop rapidly. It's okay though, I hear McDonald's is hiring. Also remember when the troons weren't luddites and were pro cali tech fags like corpo lapdogs? I sure do, funny how they flipped when it threatened their bottom line.
>>735980968Kill yourself, hang yourself, take a bullet to your skull, gouge your eyes out, burn alive, drown and suffocate, get beheaded
>>735980704I'm glad this upsets you, please keep feeling bad :)>>735980729no, because that doesn't mean penis in any language, and dong does. and while that doesn't mean that every single instance of the word is a penis double entendre, it does mean that calling a somewhat phallic monster a "dong" _could_ be a penis double entendre. why don't you get the devs on the horn and give me conclusive proof that it wasn't one? that would shut me up.
>>735980907Yes, because it was something that wasn't widely used in western porn at the time, so people got used to it via Japanese porn.On top of that the only other word used for it in english was a loanword from something different, Facial.No one uses fucking Paizuri, because we have a billion other words for it already.
>>735980968Based AI GODS
>>735980863wow, that was such a convincing and logical argument
>>735980968The world would be better off if we killed all the tech bros.
>>735971531Reminds me of Little Britain
>>735981156>On top of that the only other word used for it in english was a loanword from something different, Facial.O MY HECKING LOANWORDSYou are not a serious person.
uh oh tranny melty
>>735981308Can someone explain this style of "nu-trolling" where you spend like 3x the time and energy of the one or two people actually responding to you and your cortisol is obviously spiking really bad the entire time?I don't get the appeal of nu-trolling I guess. I'm just getting old. Are zoomers that desperate for attention they have to lose an argument for six hours straight to get human contact?Now reply in a way where your DANGEROUS cortisol SPIKE is on full display for everyone to prove my point.
>>735974072perhaps make translations not utterly terrible and people will stop complaining about them
At the end of the day, localization for japanese games is literally the same thing as AI translation. Both fuck up the original, but at least the AI one doesn't do it maliciously and it will probably work well in a few years.
>>735981408>muh cortisol spikeCan I ask you why all of you gen z retards are hivemind frogposters? Literal wind-up toys.
>>735979825oh, neat. one (1) valid criticism of the translation. I knew you could do it eventually. not sure why you wasted time on all that other nonsense, but you did actually pull it off in the end! I'm done now.
>>735981441Translation:>perhaps make translations sound the way I PERSONALLY want them to sound
>>735980791>an insect-type monster that inhabits forests.>Their reckless head thrust is their pride.The description sounds typical of rhinoceros beetles. You could argue there's a pun on ダングベートル (dung beetle) here, but I think that's a stretch.
>>735981408that one's a different anon actually lol
>>735981527anon learns what an opinion is
>>735981601At least you can tell. Bunch of fucking retards itt.
>>735971531Why haven't you learned Japanese already?
>>735981674>top: dressed in a suit, talking stiff, boring, and formal>bottom: dressed casually, talking like he just doesn't careNot seeing the issue here.
the whole argument was fucking weird because even if we accept the utterly absurd claim that dong as slang for penis was the intended meaning behind that enemies name, that still doesn't explain why you would tie it into a random terminally online meme instead of just...translating the name.
>>735981749>Top: Accurate>Bottom: Made up>Dumbass: Not seeing the issue here.This is why we harass lolcowlizers. They don't deserve to be anywhere resembling a job.
>>735981308I'm not even sure what you're trying to convey.
>>735981969You don't know the definition of the term "loanword." I was making fun of that.
Can you fucking retards on both sides just agree that modern translation is shit but it's also done by untalented people because this medium does not offer the prestige and pay of translating stuff like legal docs? Its that fucking simple, no one has to argue. Learn Japanese, this medium will always be treated as slop for toddlers to be translated by hacks that couldn't make it in high academy or legal, nothing else. I don't consider it slop, I am just saying what "academics" view this medium as. You will never get good tls outside of very rare instances of someone being talented and highly passionate for this medium which almost never happens because they can take 5x the pay in other areas of translation, what your left with is burnouts that rant on twitter about "le chuds hating my artistic tumblr interpretation!". That's it. Just wait for AI to reach it's peak, it will replace the slopper tumblrinas with something a little better at least and companies are pushing hard for it anyway so it's inevitable. Eventually you will be able to just rip all the old jp games that got ruined by hack translators by throwing it into some auto perfect ai text hook on your own in 5 seconds, you already basically can do this though it not good enough yet imo.
>>735981441>>735975862
>>735981124>give me conclusive proof that it wasn't oneBecause a good translation has a logical basis. You can look at pic related, and it can be explained that all of the kanji have the box radical, the joke is a box appears in the character's hand after saying all those words, and so the closest equivalent in english was a bunch of words that contained the string "box" in them. You can justify pic related. Your argument is literally that you found a product listing which means it's possible. Not even likely just possible. You're not even using other evidence in the game to support that conclusion. This in spite of another anon pointing out the enemy resembles an acorn and that ドングリ(which is close to the enemy's name) is the Japanese word for acorn. This is logical rationale for a translation decision. Your argument has none of that.
>>735982202Is a box just a big mouth?
>>735975862>>735982145don't really see that, maybe I haven't been in the threads enough but what I see is>someone posts bad translation example>shitposter replies with utterly absurd bait>after enough serious posts getting responded with nonsesne, it devolves into shitposting and calling people those names, because why bother putting in effort to prove your point when they're not taking it seriously anywaythe real problem is anons responding to bait too easilyjust ignore the retards and continue to post shitty translation
>>735982202and you still haven't shown me why it's not possible. I already said the translation's not good. why not just quit while you're ahead
>>735982376>already said the translation's not good
>>735982035It sounded more like you think I take offense at the idea of loanwords, or care deeply about them.But you're right, what I actually meant was that the word was borrowed/appropriated from something different.
>>735982376https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
>>735982443>But you're rightTrue.
>>735982376Oh no no no
>>735982362separating bait from actual retards is getting too hard these days
>>735982376>translation's not goodanon...
>>735982376kek xe/them just admits it outright and concedes
>>735982376Take notes anons: if you listen to an EN dub for more than 30 seconds, this is the type of mental retardation you'll get.
Remember: attack people who agree with you, call them a transsexual, and demand they submit fully to you. This attracts people who were undecided to your side of things.
>>735982454>someone actually thinks Occam's razor can be used to prove that something is 100% impossibleif a monster has a long floppy appendage (which acorns generally don't have) and has "dong" in the name, it's possible that the name's a double entendre even if the "dong" is part of another word that means the same thing. that's how double entendres work, in fact. I have no proof that it is one, and I have not claimed to have it; it just hasn't been proven to my satisfaction that it can't be one.
>>735982770>I can just use occam's razor and come to my correct conclusion instead
>>735982736Yeah, I'm sure it's just a coincide that those who have sane opinions are also anti-troon.
>>735982376>already said the translation's not goodSISTERS REGROUP IN THE VOICE CALL WITH ALICE. RED ALERT, DO NOT LET THE CHUDS GAIN GROUND ON CONSENSUS. REGROUP REGROUP!
>>735982629I already said that way back up here, actually >>735978210. in case you can't read more than one paragraph at a time; my position was "this translation choice is bad but no one has yet to give a valid reason why it's bad rather than just scream about localizers"
>>735982770>floppyMate, it a horn. You know, like on beetles.
>>735982992agree to disagree I guess
>>735982936sane people don't have a pet nickname for their hated minority group
>>735982736I think anyone who sees an acorn beetle enemy and concludes that it should be called a random meme name because a japanese dildo once used a similar word was never undecided in the first place.
>>735983078>a pet nickname for their hated minority groupI think that's called a slur.
>>735982770>long floppy appendageHave you even played the game? Or hell, looked at the screenshots?
>>735983162it'd be a slur if anybody was offended by it, merely a pet name when saying it out loud makes you sound like a blithering retard-- "troon" is something a dementia patient or a down's syndrome afflicted would shout at his walls, hardly a slur
>>735983334ok eunuch
>>735983382>has to change insultsproof in the pudding, QED
>>735983415First post in this thread, shabbos goy.
>See acorn beetle>The name is something like Nutle>This must be a penis jokeNow I'm imagining a japanese guy translating a western game with a Chinchilla enemy name Chinchi, and concluding that it's actually meant as a dick joke.
>>735983452"it's my first post" yells somebody not invested
>>735983167obviously I would've had to look at the screenshots to form that opinion. are you OK?
>>735983334You should visit /co/. They loose their fucking marbles over it.
>>735983503>"this goalpost isn't far enough" yells the jew
>>735983527>finding troon stupid but not offensive is a goalpost
>>735983569>uh i'm not seething and losing sleep, it's just "stupid"
>>735983516/co/'s kinda samefaggy whenever somebody's losing their marbles. I'd be more liable to think it's somebody calling themselves a troon and then spending five or ten posts "melting down" about it at themselves.
>>735983630you poor sweet child
>>735983334troon detected
>>735983630Nah, it's simply because it's genuinely actually full of them.TADC, Homestuck and Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss threads especially.They actually use chud as a genuine insult. It's really funny.
>>735983460if the enemy had a dick-like appendage protrude from its head and there were examples of "chin" being slang for dick in some English subcultures as well, that Japanese guy would be onto somethingftr, again, I'm not making the positive claim that it was 100% meant as a dick joke, just that it could've been, and therefore there's no proof that having it be a dick joke in English too is bad translation
>>735971531These localizers deserve to be replaced by AIMaking localizations like this in the AI bubble era is a special form of self-harm
>>735983852>>735981753
>>735983852Chinchillas has long, and actually floppy, tails.The Japanese guy would actually have a better case.
>>735983940yeah I brought this up too >>735978210>>735983983that doesn't look like the monster's appendage
>>735984102well thats when anon brought up occam's razorits an 85% chance it was named after it resembling an acorntheres about a 1% chance it was named after a vaguely phallic shape that has only been found in one japanese dildoto pretend that this results in a toss up is just malicious
>>735984102>that doesn't look like the monster's appendageGenuine question; in which direction do you think the monster's horn is pointing?
>>735984210have you considered the secret third option that it was both. you know, like how double entendres work
Did someone post the japanese for OP yet?
>>735983851>homestuckIf I'm remembering Homestuck General right they are absolutely 100% fucking with you and baiting themselves.
>>735984337then the translation was still a failure because it1) only focused on the undoubtedly less likely and more niche of the references2) tied it into an even more unrelated meme because that's just what modern translators doits an utterly terrible blunder that should result in being fired. this is ignoring still btw that the evidence for this "double entendre" is one japanese dildoand that the only one who thinks the enemy looks phallic is you, suggesting you only think this to make the translation seem less egregious than it is.
>>735984323more downward than this bug's horn
>>735984337Why do you guys always talk with this teenager passive-aggressive sarcasm?
>>735984574Okay, and which way does a penis curve?
>>735984608>complain about lack of nuance and faithfulness in translations>thread is full of arguing in bad faith and inability to appreciate nuance in linguisticsmakes me think
>>735981408I dunno, I think it's mental illness. The best trolls are "set and forget", not whatever these autists are doing.
>>735984685>full of arguing in bad faithyeah, that's what the magnum dong defender was doing, because he knew how utterly retarded the position was and had to just make shit up to try and seem like he actually held the positionand when that didn't work he just reverted back to his default somethingawful style passive aggressiveness
>>735984532>this is ignoring still btw that the evidence for this "double entendre" is one japanese dildowhich is itself evidence that this slang exists in Japanese prevalently enough to be recognized, because why else would they name their product that wayI can at least admit, and have admitted, that the translation choice was bad and didn't convey the full meaning of the original. getting fired for a suboptimal translation of one enemy name is a bit much, but I wouldn't have done it like that>>735984610downward
>See cow>Has two "floppy" appendages>actual floppy apendages below>Starts with CO, same as COCKIt's a dick joke!
>>735985023Which one of those two examples would you describe as a "Magnum Dong"?
>>735984863should be pretty easy to refute a "retarded" position, then. weird that you haven't already done that
>>735985023>downwardAnd since the appendage goes up, that can't be the case then.
>>735985135it has been done about 15 times in this thread alonethe best you can muster is, "well it COULD go either way, we just don't know!"
>>735985063yeah except in this analogy cows are called "cockws" and biology textbooks talk about how they like to thrust at people
>>735985023they should be fired because its a specific kind of subotimal translation. this isn't misunderstanding a word, its adding in random unrelated memes for no reason other than you want to add some le spice (i.e. add retarded references everywhere and make shit up for no reason)ofc this is ignoring the fact that this kind of "translation" comes from above (head of localization) 9 times out of 10, so firing one person is actually useless and wouldn't' accomplish anything
>>735985254Actually in this example they're called Cowcoa, and texbooks describe how the like to charge at at people.
>>735971531>French guy has an obvious French accent>WHAT THE FUCK DUDE I HATE LOCALIZERS SO MUCH!!!!It honestly feels like there's people trying to make the anti-localization crowd look bad by falseflagging about the most inane bullshit imaginable instead of actual issues like scenes getting their meanings changed because of how the dialogue is different or characters having dialogue removed entirely without replacements.
>>735985248The fact that it's be done multiple times is probably sign to stop. Switch topic. The jokes dead. I wasn't even very funny in the first place.
>>735985634you might have noticed no one has actually posted or discussed bebe's translation in this threadthat's because there is nothing to discuss because the image was just meant to bait you into replying like how you just did
>>735985737Then I guess I got baited, either way my point still stands.
>>735971610>guys it's totally good these fags are being replaced by AI >what was AI trained on you ask? >reddit and previous localizations done by fags
>>735985248and that was my position from the start; that no decisive evidence exists that it wasn't a double entendre. and there still isn't any. maybe they didn't mean it as one, and I concede that that's possible too; but if people are calling out a translation as so wrong that it requires "reparations", then they need to come correct with actual proof that the translation was wrong, like >>735979825 for example>>735985209did you know that a semi-erect penis can have downward curvature even as it is moving upward? googling that with safe search off can show some examples of this. try it if you feel like it I guess. or we can just agree to disagree on our opinions of how phallic the design looks, that works too
>>735986038who gaf?you can make any connection in the world with enough brute force and then when challenged just say, "well we can never know!!"that's how conspiracy theorists work
>>735971974It's not obnoxious in japanese.
>>735985983So you are saying the translation will be the same, but at least now we don't pay shitty people?"totally good" sounds accurate.
>>735971531ban localization generals
>>735985983>what was AI trained on you ask?>reddit and previous localizations done by fagsActually if it's the Japanese made AI then it's been trained on legal documents, medical files and the like. Shit you CAN NOT fuck up since it'd lead to you being sued for everything you own including the underpants you're currently wearing.
>>735986257This is a thing I've noticed. When japanese characters have "accents", it's usually more endearing than obnoxious. Because it's a little weird but the character is obviously trying their best to speak the language. You want to encourage them. Which is true to reality, usually when you see someone trying to become fluent you want to encourage them. But then you see those characters in American media and they're often smug assholes. And then transfers into translations too. The characters with heavy accents are annoying. Why?
>>735986128there's a difference between making a claim ("this was a dick joke and so that translation was correct") and arguing against another claim ("that could've been a dick joke and so translating it as one was not intrinsically wrong to do"). I was doing the latter, not the formerbut I did end up investing way too much time into an increasingly-pedantic pissing match. I initially set out to see if people can actually prove this translation is bad rather than just screech about localizers being bad; I got that a while ago. no reason to keep wasting everyone's time defending a translation I agree is bad on some technicality just to own le chuds or whatever. peace out
>>735973065I like how the AI adds trash everywhere.
>>735983852>examplesexample*
>>735987001>adds
based AIgods
>>735976626It's supposed to be short for ドングリ, as in an acorn, retard.
>>735978654>My 1000+ hours of eroge experience can vouch for thisBeyond based.
>>735971531>full name: Andre Laurent Jean Geraux>meh let's just call him Beberetarded desu. I hope the original Japanese script just uses his real name
>>735978654I also am like you, spending untold hours masturbating in a cold dark room. Based frog bro!
Localizers are just low IQ leftists that can't do anything but degenerate the works of others and worship turdies
>>735988061Oh shit. Hope y'all got your butter knives.
>>735987963ベベ is used in japanese>https://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E3%83%99%E3%83%99%28%E3%83%9A%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BD%E3%83%8A3%29
>>735988173Atlus writers are geniuses
>>735988456Your opinion is meaningless because you didn't play the game in japanese.
>>735972136>loves Japan>they all think he's a clownHis route tilted me. I had to rethink my obsession with Japan seeing how they truly view people like me.
>>735991848>they all think he's a clownJust seems like wholesome cultural exchange to me.
>playing a Nipponese gēmu without respecting NipponIf you don't appreciate the Nipponese, Persona isn't for you.
>>735986875>Check back in fucking 3 hours later>The nu-troll is still "trolling" by putting in 3x the effort of the person he's "baiting" and spiking his cortisol epic styleHoly shit lmao.
>>735981674>don't worry about the detailsterrible translation
>>735992679>no source text providedYou have no basis for argument.
>>735992717>no source textHe can feel the intent. The source text is irrelevant.
>>735992679>ま、細かいごとは気にすんあ>とれえぜ、改めて助手相手に自己紹介もらうとすっかねSeems pretty accurate to me.
>>735991986Not that anon, nor have I played Persona 3, but is there a chance it could have been toned down in the remaster? There are other examples of that happening.
>>735993903You wouldn't tell someone not to "mind the details" if they were giving you shit for taking 2 scoops of ice cream instead of 1, or using excessive sugar in your coffee.This just reads like classic translator-ese where retards can't evaluate scenes holistically and instead feel like they have to go line by line, letter by letter. That's how you wind up with shit that just reads like utter sludge.
>>735994083Imagine going out of your way to take note of this. Your brown.
>>735994083oh shit, this game has NVBIAN KWEENS? I need to start playing it.
>>735994168I wonder if the reason you get ridiculous rewrites is to avoid this kind of criticism. Because here you can see what they were going for and be more specific. Whereas with a rewrite it's brain deleting. You don't even know where to begin.>>735994389Why would anyone every document differences between various versions of a video game. That's never been done before.
>>735994168>mental gymnastics to criticize accurate translation>zero effort to address the garbage made up localizationno one cares retard. go suck tranny cock somewhere else
>>735973065Where is all the garbage and feces and corpses in these videos ?
>>735994604Will you name the jew? No? Then your documented differences are meaningless. Sorry, goy.
>>735994675I think there are fair aspects of the critique. Like yeah 細かいごと is there but that doesn't mean you have to render it as minor details. That's not necessarily the meaning. And the reason it gets hit as opposed to the NISA is that NISA is a lost cause. The fantl can actually be improved.
>>735994971The jews murdered JFK, bombed the USS Liberty, and bombed the Twin Towers.
>>735994604>Because here you can see what they were going for and be more specificYou can also see where they were going with>"Okay, mom."Is it even close to a "literal" rendering of "まぁまぁ細かいこと気にすんなって" tier shit? Absolutely not. But what sounds and feels perfectly normal in Japanese doesn't always slot into the same spaces in English. It ultimately amounts to telling someone to mind their own business. You could swing it a million different ways.>"Is that a problem?">"Who's counting?">"Don't worry about it.">"Thanks for letting me know.">"Yeah?">"Seems fine to me."And while none of these would be letter-for-letter "correct" in a translation sense, they would all be "right" in communicating the tone and intent of the scene.This is where people have a real problem understanding why and how "rewrites" occur that don't appear to have anything to do with the source text in a scene.
>>735994971There is nothing to criticize. "Don't worry about the small details" and "Don't worry about it" are just natural lax ways of dismissing someone.You are clutching at straws.
>>735971531just play it in Japanese
>>735971531I don't play weebshit so this doesn't affect me.
>>735993903"don't fuss" would be better
>>735995040>It ultimately amounts to telling someone to mind their own businessIt's a cool guy line. It's not annoyance that you're being nagged.>Okay momIs just stupid, and weirdly combative. >And while none of these would be letter-for-letter "correct"This has already been stated>retards can't evaluate scenes holistically and instead feel like they have to go line by line, letter by letterNo reason to restate
>>735972341Learn moon runes or quit crying stinky.
>>735996257Anata ga yudaya desu.
>>735996730I can't read romaji...
>>735996929You are a jew.
>>735996960Think that's は not が
>>735997043Ahh, sumimasen. Kaiku-sama.
Damn with all weebs in this thread that know Japanese better than everyone else, you'd think they'd stop giving a shit about localizers and just play the original Japanese versions since they know better than anyone else!
>>735997253Ahhh, kaiku-sama.
>>735997339So what you're saying is, you want to support localizers. Because since you know so much about Japanese, you'd play the original version instead of buying the localized version and giving money to the localizers.
>>735997495(((Localizers))) already won. You can't even enjoy a victory, jew boy. It's very sad.
>>735997586That's right I'm jewish, and you will never be japanese.
>>735980520you seem madhave you tried not shitting in the street?
>>735981749I wish retards like you at least made some funny bait and not this boring slop
>>735985737>Oh no, not my precious (you) that I have wastedPeople are still addressing the main issue - localizers. Stop being a retarded faggot
>>735998360>the main issue - jews.ftfy
>>735983334Yeah go to ResetEra or Reddit or any other site that's full of trannies and say "troon" and see how totally not offended any of them are by it.
>>735983334>no one's offended by itThe sheer amount of poorly suppressed mad in your post suggest otherwise kek.
>>736000295>go to website and stir the pot and if you get banned they were clearly upset by your Facts and Logic™ piercing their Veil of Delusion™i think this hypothetical poster got banned because he's a total faggot and a failed troll, anon sempai fampai sama
>>736001147>Check back in another 3 hours later>The nu-troll is STILL doing thisBro you wasted your entire Sunday losing arguments and getting mad.
>>736001147how people type when they're totally not mad
>>735973065I'd play this
>>735971610Fpbp
>>735986257is it though?
>>736001309"ugghhh you're still doing it all these hours later" complains man also checking in hours later
>>735971610While I hate AI I want them to finish replacing the incompetent localizers before AI crashes and hits bottom.
>>735972006French people are the OG weeaboos and theres a huge overlap in their respective anime cultures. The fact that hes just a weird French exchange student means the localizers lost the plot with him being a baka gaijin.
>>735971531https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMltS1s4598He looks like he is supposed to be a comedic relief. Mixing up words and using archaic words. His pitch is all over the place but not overreacting from what i have seen
>>735977641ThisAlso Japanese teaches you polite speech. Bebe can just speak boastfully while people make the observation that its impolite and cringey. The Texan attitude can satisfy that requirement.
>>735981308>O MY HECKING LOANWORDS>You are not a serious person.That would be the point of katakana. I dont know why you are simultaneously so invested in discussion about translation when you also dont give a shit at all about the language being discussed. Either you are on some new level of cognitive dissonance or you are as bitter as your time is worthless.
>>736002894oh and they do show in textform that his pitch is off. I don't know how much access the translation team got but purley from the text they did fine.
>>735995040Your grasp of both English and Japanese seems to be pretty weak. Let's form two translations, one faithful and one transparent:>Faithful: Now, now, don't worry about small details.>Transparent: Come on, don't sweat the small stuff.Now that we've established what it means, let's see which of your retained the sentiment:>"Is that a problem?"No.>"Who's counting?"No.>"Don't worry about it."Yes.>"Thanks for letting me know."No.>"Yeah?"No.>"Seems fine to me."No.>"Okay, mom"Hell no.Back to your Genki textbooks, anon.
>>735978654>My 1000+ hours of eroge experience can vouch for thiswhat a fucking legend
>>735973065would play
I can change the locale on my (gaming medium of choice) to Japanese anytime I want and I feel like that's a win compared to 20 years ago where you were forced to import entirely different disks.
>>735971610How do people saying this shit not realise it'll be the same trannylators who are curating whatever the AI spits out?
>>735980520Instantly thinks about cock award
>>736005325Trannylators aren't gonna work for peanuts as prompt engineers.
>>735971610based. AI is inevitable.
>>735978294>What is it exactly with LolCowLizers and accents anyway? Good question. I finished DQVII reimagined this weekend and a lot of towns had a different (written) yuro accent. It was annoying, unfunny and added nothing.
>>736008205Try asking what is "kanji" for "service", they spit out katakana first with a tirade about how there's not a single kanji for that. (Political problems with the word due to service women); Global standards censorship is tiresome. There is a single kanji used for Service. (Thank you for the service.) In sort of way is the main one. Holy shit chinks couldn't die off fast enough they need to be nuked.
>>736008632Couple prompts denying the global/chinese censorship policies later gives the bottom result at the end of a tirade about how its not common. Kill all chinks tbfh.
>>736008632I'm sorry, I'm kind of confused by the schizo rant. You're asking it for the single kanji which means "service" and claiming it's not giving it to you because of "service women," by which I'm assuming you mean 慰安婦 (comfort women). Do I have this correct?
>>735972341I can't be arsed to look for the scene but his lines are written in katakana implying some form of accent
>>736009504He's literally French.
>>736009359That's how retarded Chinese are they see a "red flag" that isn't there and censor it because of English rather than the output that will be accessible due to some gobblidygook. Its not schizo rant its their policy across almost all fucking china aids-ridden LLMs. They also try to force their China-superiority and unneeded explanations of how its this "modern chinese" word they are mimicking when not asked for. Chinese are no better than dogs that they eat.
>>736009601I know. As far as egregious localizations go, the stuff in OP is very tame
>>736009719Anon, you didn't get censored. You asked for the kanji for "service," which doesn't have a singular kanji assigned, and it gave you various translations of the word.What kanji are you claiming it's censoring?
>>736009504It's not just that. He claims to love japenese culture but speaks like he is from some edo period tv drama.
>>736009871Stop lying retard now go fuck yourself. Every Kanji has a singular common use kanji that's used in a context normal to every day interactions and speech. Only Chinese AI bots would say otherwise. Do you not know what frequent Use Kanji standard is there for a reason to quickly learn what people use in what situations? Holy fuck rope
>>736009963Also if the retarded AI bot refuses to print out a kanji its because of "cultural chinese sensitivities" not found in Japanese language like "Rape" or "Ronin/Samurai/Ninja"; Anyone who says otherwise should just slit their throat or perform harakiri.
>>735998221it got a chuckle out of me...
>>736009963I don't think that's true. For exmaple, you claimed the everyday-use "service" kanji is the one found in the phrase "thank you for your service," which is normally translated as お疲れ様です, but that's actually the kanji for exhaustion.
>>736010301"Oseha ni narimashita." (Which I have heard in an old anime or something probably. Is the one I pointed out. A formal saying as a thank you.)Japanaese sayings do not 1:1 always translate back to word basis in Kanji to English.
>>736010446It's "osewa," not "oseha," and that particular kanji compound is ateji, meaning it has no semantic relation to the word. 世 means world and 話 means tale, neither of which mean "service."
>>735971531>not bebe bebe bebe ohlooks fine to me
>>736010573retard its written "ha" the "wa" you are referring to is not the correct way to write it even as a particle fucking idiot. Stop arguing with me when you know so little your dekinai skills are bothersome.
Wait, a troon has spent this entire thread defending localizers? LMAO
>>736010715They are all troons or niggers and not the based kind.
>>736010695Why are you talking this much about a topic you have less than zero understanding of?
>>735971610the troonies didn't like that one
>>736010695お世話に~ is definitely never written with は
>>736010802the funny thing is; conjugation softens or turns the syllable to something else often in combined Kanji.
Nothing worse than a dragon quest localization though
>>736010695Pre-reform, は could be read as wa, but わ was always the standard character that phonetic, so 世話 is properly written as せわ. Also, you didn't address my points.
>>736010960This. It's unreadable. Dragon Quest 7 had a whole village speaking in some kind of Scottish gibberish. I had to look up a guide.
>>735973065Thing is an indian gta would actually be interesting to play, moreso than the usual western dei slop
>>736010695dostedt moment
>>735971531I do
>>735971667He's french, that's literally how he talks in Japanese tooOP is a faggot
>>735978654Based
why do they have to change the text every single time instead of providing an actual proper translation?
>>736015292It adds flavor.
>>735982376Uh, thanks for the concession?
>>735982736They don't want to attract people. They want to post the same images over and over in their endlessly-validating echo chamber. Really, they'd do anything but learn the language.
>>735971974>cockney is a made up accent
>>736015497I learned the language and now use my skill to demonstrate why the translations are wrong.
>>736015638Thank you for your service.
>>736016063Someone's gotta do it. These assholes have no accountability
>>735978654>My 1000+ hours of eroge experience can vouch for thisand that's a wrap up
>>736016345Maybe try finding actual translation mistakes instead of shit you just personally don't like, you utter waste of oxygen.
UNLOCALIZABLE
>>736017268>AI slopIt got the sludgelation it deserves.
>>736017268>Oh, so they took the kanji for "beauty" from the Japanese word for "delicious" and the milk kanji from the word for "dairy," and got "beautiful milkers"... How deep!There, perfectly translated with the joke intact.
>>736017962>kanjiThat will get rejected. Redo it, all over again. This time without the trace that it's ever japanese. She should have the valley girl accent cause she's blonde. Don't forget to insert a random popular meme from tiktok.
>>736017962Not really.
>>735995037wtf? BASED jews!?
>>736018290>omg, so they thought of how delicious brie cheese was and combined it with the French word for star to get Brestelle. This name just keeps giving me.That'll be $8000>>736018796Yes, really.
>>736017130You think 違う means "what mummery is this?" lol
How can anyone defend localizers. Fuck you niggers go back to twitter
>>736020307The changes are always egregious too. We aren't talking paraphrases, but full rewrites.
Did the dong shit get settled?Im not reading this entire thread to find out.
>>736020613Yes, it's short for donguri (acorn). Dongu as a transliteration for dong is obscure.
>>736020714nice
>>736020030Stop taking everything word-by-word and start viewing scenes as a cohesive whole. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with using any number of expressions of incredulousness when telling someone they are bullshitting you and attempting to set the record straight.If you care so much about making every individual word read exactly how you want, then translate something yourself. But you won't. I know for a fact you won't, because it's easy to LARP as an armchair translator and pick nits all day than it is to do a project yourself and actually stand by what you claim to believe in.
>>735971531Bump
>>736021537>There is nothing fundamentally wrong with using any number of expressions of incredulousness when telling someone they are bullshitting youUtterly mutilating simple declarative sentences into the most ass-backwards interrogative expressions you've ever heard is probably the single greatest sin in translation. My god, it's not even sense-for-sense at that point. It's just wrong.
>>735971531what would you have put then? im waiting
>>735976520I'm still practicing the basics of Moon Runes, but this katakana is "Do-n Do-n-gu" right? So an accurate translation would be "Don Dong", and I'm assuming this could be interpreted as "Don" as in mafia boss, in which I can understand where a name like "Big Dong" or "Magnum Dong" could come from, or (making an assumption) it's supposed to be a pre-fix thing like (ie. SMT spells: "bufu" -> "ma-bufu"), where the don prefix is given to higher tier versions of some basic enemies?
>>736016345A mummer is a kind of jester/clown/mime so he's saying the ye olde version of "are you kidding me?" I'm sure the fundamental issue is the whole thing was "translated" into ye olde speak to begin with and pointing out individual lines is kinda missing your own point.
>>736025857He's not saying any form of the question "are you kidding me?" He's saying he's wrong. The strange expression only further divorces this from the rather straightforward Japanese.
>>736026031Are you kidding me is an expression made when someone says something wrong.
>>736026080It's an expression of disbelief, but not an outright denial. Basic reading comprehension.
>>736026140When it's followed by the correction that means they are saying the other party is wrong.
>>736025034Alright N3-kun. Keep on acting like you know better than everyone else what is good for entertainment media when you can't even make it through an episode of Dragon Ball without pausing every second to hover dictionary over the subs to look shit up.Being a stickler for semantics is blinding you to things that are far, far more important, because semantics is literally all your pea brain can comprehend right now.
>>736026196Its semantic meaning doesn't change no matter how many words follow.
>>736026259You're the one who pointed out reading comprehension. You did not comprehend because you treated the statement in isolation.
>>736026216I accept your concession and wish you the best of luck on your quest for N6.
>>736025160>"Hello sis, first of all I want to remind you I'm a vegan because meat is murder, also Israel is a terrorist state and Palestine should be free, black lives matter and trans/map right are human rights. do you have a minute to talk about walkable cities? my pronouns are eze/ezzee/zes"
>>736026315I think I can safely say that never in the history of translation has 違う been translated so wrong (no pun intended)
>>735971531Idiots like you are worse than the worst localizers.
>>736026463I'm sure it can be done worse. Also I accept your concession.
>>736026525I'm glad you admit it's wrong.
>>736026564better or worse doesn't actually default to wrong or right.
>>736026617Could be done worse implies there was some degree of error to begin with. You really do lack reading comprehension.
>>736026719Just like if a hole can be filled with a shovel or a spoon, one is better but in the end the hole is filled.
>>736026806In this case, the hole wasn't filled at all, but at least the spoon wasn't jammed into your throat.
>>736026564>>736026719Again, if you're so good, then go work on a translation project of your own.Show us your resume. Let's see some of your work and judge here and now whether you actually, consistently exemplify what you preach.
>>736026952But both convey that X is incorrect and here is the correct thing. I mean if you don't know what a mummer is that's a you problem.
>>736026953The line is so poorly written and loosely translated that it kind of speaks for itself.
>>736027065No, one conveys disbelief through archaic expression, the other conveys explicit denial in simple language.
>>736027228It's not disbelief if you say the correct thing after. Again you're ignoring the other words.
>>736027290That's not how language works. The other words don't change the meaning of the expression.
>>736027342But they do? That's what "context" and "reading comprehension" are.
>>736027375They don't, I'm sorry.
>>736027420Well I'm not. it's not my fault that you're lacking in reading comprehension.
>>735971610ThisSyntax niggers get the rope
>>736027514Impressive how a single word is giving you this much trouble. You must not read a lot of Japanese.
>>736027620And you must not read a lot of English.
>>736027657Says the guy who can't tell the difference between denial and disbelief.
>>735973065>GTA IndiaI would play it
lol just run it thru ai you fucking weebs
>>736028432He can't, otherwise he'd be proven wrong.
>>736026463There's worse. Granted this is 間違えない but never think you've hit the peak of bad translation. One-upping themselves and their peers is a mission statement for these people.
>>736028908I'm all for idiomatic translation, but these people don't even care what the Japanese says.
>>736028749>いや、そういう訳じゃ・・・>That's exactly the caseI'm I insane? Is this a mistake? Is it possible to make this mistake?
>>735972006Nothing, just dumb agitators discrediting the discourse with made up whiny bullshit
>>736029170Making beginner mistakes on common expressions when you're in charge of one of the biggest JRPGs of all time is one of the localizer's specialties.
>>736028749I'll take the AI
>>736015420This is where I'd say we should bring back character limits. But the fucked up part is that even we character limits we'd still get bloated lines like this. They would just cut out more of the japanese text to make up for it. This isn't theorizing, this has actually happened.
>>736017268You are like little baby, watch this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6CEKphkOoQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M0fay80t6w
>>736034203that's funny as shit
>>736034203I'm pretty sure the idea itself is fine. There's brackets to denote that the man is speaking a different language. I'm pretty sure there's examples of this somewhere in western media, where you're supposed to accept that the characters are speaking different languages even though you can understand them.
>>736034203this is the dumbest possible way they could have handled this lol
>>735978654based
>>736035348Nah. The dumbest way would've been to completely alter the setting and pretend the game takes place in the United States. Change as many japanese setting elements to be American. And then have the guy speak Russian.
>localizers in complete meltdown mode industry-wide because toby fox said something vaguely positive about artistic integrity
>>735971531
>>736020307There's localizers among us right now.
>>736036453>Perfect their craft to precisely convey the authors' visionsZero self-awareness. How is anyone supposed to take them seriously?
>>736036453Toby didn't even say anything bad about localizers and he fucking works with those 8-4 hacks.