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This is the greatest game ever made.
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I like this game because it lets me look like Guts. What other games let me look like Guts?
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Nah too much copy and paste. No real reason to be open world. Didn't even bother to do new game plus of the dlc.
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>>735983362
Explain how any of it is copy and pasted
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>>735983006
Sorry meant to post a picture of DaS2
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>>735983006
nigger OP
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>>735983006
As much as I like the combat everything else is bad. I would rather play Morrowind/Oblivion with it's bad combat since everything else is good. Dragons Dogma also has good combat with a few other things that are good.
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You didn't beat the game.
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>>735985481
How do you not like the world design?
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>>735983006
It's not my favorite game of all time but I do think it's objectively the best, at least so far.
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>no proper quests
>no fishing
>no farm/ranch
>no player housing
>no horse races
>no archery contests
>no gambling minigame
>no friendly villages filled with NPCs you can interact with
>no puzzles
It's bare bones.
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>>735986036
>no pointless shit for women
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>>735983006
>rollslop 7
>anything higher than a 6/10

how to spot a reddit zoomer
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>>735983218
Dragon's Dogma, one of the default characters is literally just Guts
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>>735985797
It doesn't pull me in. It doesn't feel lived in. There aren't any towns, besides one of jars, and everyone besides patches and rogier speak like a retard. Yes, it looks pretty but the world doesn't feel cohesive to me. It's like a mess on the floor. When I went to see the woman bandits up on the side of the mountain in dd it felt like I was traveling up the side of a mountain. When I popped over one of the many hills in Oblivion it was like some lord of the rings cinematic shit every time. When I climbed Mt. Gelmir I just went up two or three long ladders. It's like a bunch of small zones crammed together to make each area. Not a flowing over world.
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>>735986126
Crimson desert just came out and proved you can have all that AND and better combat system.
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>>735983601
It becomes very obvious when you enter the mines and find that every single elevator shaft is completely identical, even with the platforms you can jump down. A lot of areas are like this, where the basic layout is exactly the same, but with some small modification. For example, Castle Sol is a copypasta of Redmane Castle (including the two lions in front of the main gate) and the boss is a copypasta of the guy you fight in Caelid that summons a bunch of dudes.
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>>735983006
after crimson desert
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>>735983218
DeS, DS1, DS2, DS3
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>>735986750
>DS1
Incorrect thoughever
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>>735986201
Shill OP utterly destroyed
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>>735987517
Stop samefagging, fucking brown.
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>>735987517
Why do the prophets carry toilet seats around their necks? Is the Dung Eater one of the gods they worship?
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ER>DaS>DeS>BB>DaS2>DaS3
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>>735983006
undoubtably
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>>735986201
why aren't you attacking the jobber?
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>>735988463
ds1 des bb sekiro
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Currently taking a break from Elden Ring
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>>735983218
Fpbp
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>>735983006
It is pretty great, yeah.
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>>735989475
Looks good anon
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>>735990879
Sheeeeit I deleted it. Here it is.
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>>735990879
>>735990924
Thanks. I find the lore interesting of itself (I'm probably one of the few who plays largely for story) but it's always an interesting thought exercise to map real-world things onto it.
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>>735983601
>Explain how any of it is copy and pasted
A ton of the bosses are exact copies.
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>>735983006
It lacks the tone of Demons Souls and Dark Souls 1.
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>>735991395
They are different games, so the tone is different. No shit.
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>>735983006
>put tons of hours into invading before the seamless co-op/pvp mod was a thing
>played through the game normally like 5 times
>uninstalled after I beat the dlc one time
Fuck. Guess I'm reinstalling so I can cheese Mohg and get dlc weapons early.
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>>735991595
They are most definitely different. I pressed o/b to dodge in the dark souls games and then o/b to dodge in elden ring. Ds3 has weapon arts but ER has aow. These legacy dungeons are completely different from the souls series. Those gravestones may look similar to bloodborne but they are completely different.
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>>735992209
Just because the mechanics are the same doesn’t mean the world/atmosphere is. Are you sub 90 IQ?
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>>735987437
>xhe doesn't like pre-eclipse Guts
cringe
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>>735992386
I listed both mechanics and textures. Are you sub90iq? Idiot fromslop player.
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>>735992602
>I listed things that are irrelevant to the tone of the game
>uhhh… no U!
Like I said, sub 90 iq.
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>>735983006
Boring open-world time wasting faggot game for faggots.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p8A79zGsGw
with the power of mods, the only reason to buy lies of p has vanished
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Haven't gotten around to playing ER yet, but is it just DS3 but open world?
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>>735994105
honestly it's closer to DS2 if it had actually gotten all the polish it needed
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Not really, but I am appreciating it more as it ages.
I've stopped trying to play it like a Souls game and just use whatever is at my disposal. Consumables are very strong if you experiment with them; some of the lesser Spirit Ashes are actually quite good.
An anon posted a mini guide for getting a Carian Slicer-based mage build off the ground a couple of weeks ago, and I made my first magic build: it's been fun. Haima's Cannon is silly. Moonveil, as nerfed as it must have been since release, is still a great secondary weapon.
I've already beaten the game twice(ish) on PS4, so I'm just letting myself look everything up and not trying to be a purest when it comes to progressing: if something is causing me grief, out comes the +6 Banished Knight Engvall.
Valiant Gargoyles were always a huge stumbling block for me, but zi just summoned D and Engvall, and unzipped muh katana on them, and they were dead in 30 seconds.
tl;dr - fun to play like a casul
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>>735983601
Anon, the catacombs/ tombs are literally Chalice Dungeons.
Not that that's a bad thing, necessarily: they got pretty creative with some of them.
But they're pre-fab pieces jammed together to fill up space.
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>>735983006
they should patch the game to remove scaddupoops and just scale the expansion areas normally. can still be a bit higher thats fine, its post-mohg anyway.
but that shit only made some sense at launch. now it's an area that has 90% of the coolest items you wanna use but it comes from slog content you don't really wanna do after already being done or almost done with your run to elden lord
basically you just end up cheating in leaf arts and smith weapons etc so you can actually enjoy them, which isn't a good solution
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>>735986531
>better combat system
>implying
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>>735983006
I hope Fromsoft gives the Elden Ring treatment to the Sekiro combat system.
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>>735983006
If you like the taste of horse cock in your mouth
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>>735986531
Nuke worst Korea now, god, PLEASE.
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>>735983218
Play real guts game(dragon's dogma)
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>>735983601
Copy pasted content can be good if combat is fun like nioh2 but combat in er is painfully braindead
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>>735986201
Weird how in my dozen or so playthroughs of the game I've never had this happen to me
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>>735986201
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>>735994554
looks like a disgusting mix of dragon's dogma and hoyoverse slop
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Wakizashi and Uchigatana is the "you did beat the game" build.
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>>735995143
No it’s not.
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>>735995143
This only applies to naked samurai RP.
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>>735988454
it symbolizes marika's toilet.
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>>735983006
Had zero desire to even try this. I already played demon souls and honestly it’s probably better than Elden ring. I just can’t imagine they made any meaningful improvements. They most likely merely filled it with lots of new age tricks that sell copies and retain subscribers. Faith in gaming is at an all time low. The industry got too big before enough people had internet access. Now they have to actually like beat you in the head to get your money. Also does not bold well that their big meme is cuckolding calling the player incel, that’s not that funny. It’s kinda man hating, in a world where they have been killing men specifically for hundreds of years and eating their bank accounts.
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one of elden ring's nicest touches is you're still a shit smeared samurai of no renown even if you pick that starting class

your helmet has a crest but no clan insignia or emblem, your armor is borderline unadorned and in drab colors, and your uchigatana's scabbard is unlacquered, bottom barrel dogshit of a sword. you could barely afford armor and a weapon while you lived in the land of reeds
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>>735996776
ok weeb lol
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>>735986036
it does have some proper quests. rannis questline is good. That fort quest in limgrave is good, too bad they didnt have more coveneant quests similar to that desu.
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>>735997139
>rannis questline is good

>talk to npc til their dialogue repeats
>go to another place
>talk to npc til their dialogue repeats
>go to another place
>talk to npc til their dialogue repeats
>go to another place
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>>735996026
Yes it is.
Shield sissies in shamballable, you losted tranny.
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>>735983006
Its a 8/10. Multiplayer is bad, the copy and paste gets a bit tedious, the input reading isnt hard but it is immersion breaking, story ever since ds1 has been getting worse and worse, there are too many ways to cheese bosses, and the overall world design doesnt feel like a world thats lived in or a country, it feels like 8 dark souls dungeons spread out over 500 empty field that are scattered with mini dungeons, the same way breath of the wild feels compared to traditional zelda games but done worse.
But what it does do it does very well.
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>>735996729
there are way more moves in elden ring. demons souls feels unbearably bear bones compared to later souls games.
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>>735997228
Ok well the quest in your favourite game is basically
>go here and do thing then come back
what now?
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>>735983006
I have yet to see an argument against >>735986201

True rollslop with a boring story

gamers are retarded
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>>735993991
try again without bugmen slop next time
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>>735994837
Yeah you’ve never played either game
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>>735983006
I liked the coop just like in all the Dark Souls. I helped a couple hundred people with Melania and Elden Beast.
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>>735998859
Probably done to create player retention by making many possible build combinations. Demon souls you get normal attack, stronger but slower attack and backstab, don’t need more than that. I’m just imagining their shitty attempts at adding tons of different moves which all are fundamentally “melee attack” or “ranged attack” but with a different name and color. Modern gamers are easily swindled and confused, they’re merely being tempted with the illusion of freedom because it makes you play longer when you feel like you have some type of creative control. But, they can’t actually give you that, because gaming doesn’t work that way. I’m cringing at the idea of Elden ring guides where there’s tier lists for dps lol, that’s probably a real thing.
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>>735994861
Because you don't stay in the same relative position with pinpoint consistency for a whole minute like the video. When you know how bosses tick like this either by looking at files or whatever, it's easy to control them.
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>>735999361
The only way to create exciting builds is through supply scarcity. The roguelike genre is easy to make and fun to play, but we never see it done by any big budget companies. Probably because it doesn’t make enough sales lol, gamers just want the same shit slop every time where they collect points which upgrade their chosen spell. In a well make roguelike, you have no idea the fun you might or might not have. You’ll end up with retarded looking stats but feeling satisfied with how it turned out. In nu souls you’ll be staring at your favorite YouTube guide and doing the exact same thing but not as well because he’s a pro gamer and you’re just a piece of shit. It’s boring and doesn’t work, the game balance has to come from shit nobody likes. Souls games are what devil may cry became in later releases, it’s funny how all these games have hardcore origins before adopting the same business strategies to justify their budgets. I’m just imagining these boardroom meetings where they show their PowerPoint presentation on why upgrading spell 3 makes more money than spell 2.3.
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>>735983006
It was at least good enough to scare Nintendo out of releasing a Zelda game in the same year lol
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*taps the sign*
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>>735983006
It may really just be
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>>735998987
>I have yet to see an argument against >>735986201
Here:
>>735994861
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>>735983006
No but GotD for sure. Especially with how absolutely shitty gaming was from 2019-2022. It was like winged Hussars finally breaking the ottoman on slop.
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>>735983218
>not even using a repeater crossbow or cannon
not guts
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>>735983006
It's not even the greatest game Fromsoft ever made
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>>735994861
If you see a webm of gameplay on/ v/, you can almost be certain that it's not indicative of the experience of actually playing it
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>>736000262
ER>BB>DS2>DS3>DS1>DeS>Seikiro
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>>736000703
It's LITERALLY proof of the experience of actually playing it
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>>736000718
Fromsoft have only ever made a single good video game
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>>736000262
I don't know why fags keep bringing up sekiro so often
it's not the same genre as the souls games and ER, may as well bring up Shadow Tower or Kuon
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>>735994837
weird post
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>>736000808
>t's not the same genre as the souls games and ER
When did I claim it was?
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Which soulsborne is closest to berserk?
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>>735983006
i cried when i fought zanzibart...
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>>735998907
But my favorite quests lets me make choices and the world changes depensing on the choices I make and NPC's react differently. Unlike elden ring where the main thing NPC's do 90% of the time is die, die later, or are found dead.
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>>736002962
I decide your favorite quests.
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>>736001109
Elden ring, retard
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>>735983006
>the greatest game ever made.
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Close, but no cigar.
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>>735986201
>mimictroon thinks his opinion matters
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>>735996776
fromslop players just love being cucks, huh?
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>>736000703
schizos love their webms.

My favorite is the dark souls 2 fanboy with a trillion webms of mediocre ds2 gameplay that’s supposed to look cool and him playing ds1 and 3 like a retard which is supposed to be proof those two are terrible.
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>>736002962
>make choice and get cutscene where guy hands you red sword
OR
>make choice and get cutscene where guy hands you blue sword
wow nice game, faggot
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>>735999361
> But, they can’t actually give you that, because gaming doesn’t work that way.
souls literally works that way.
Its like mario from nes, you can beat the entire game as mini mario and just ignore mushrooms, ignore big mario, ignore flower power. Just jump at right time and you can beat the game. if you want to be more efficient you maybe use flower power mario, but now you need to know when to duck too, and get your timing on fire attack as well. Souls is the same, you can "just dodge and R1" and beat the game, but the guy who learned how to make use of Jump, Low stance, backstep, and the special moves and how to use all the different moves at the right time, is going to be more efficient with the game and beat bosses faster.
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>>735983006
Rollslop.
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>>735983006
that's not Red Dead Redemption 2
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>>735983601
The ulcerated tree spirit is the best example.

Your first time you’ll likely fight it will either be in the bottom of stormveil in the fucked up arena with godwyn’s visage or near the destroyed tree in mt. gelmir.
Both of these are memorable. The former for the visage and tying into Rogier’s quest and latter for fitting the general theme of gelmir being a monster filled shithole home to group of erdtree hating heretics.

And then you fight it again right before the capital
And again in the capital
And again in a random catacomb
And again in a another catacomb but it has rot elemental damage
And again in the haligtree on a tiny platform
And three times in the ashen capital
And four more times in the DLC

This is completely overkill. At least the asylum demon reskins are regulated to the minor erdtrees with a few exceptions,

Making it worse is how the actual fight itself is used so much that it becomes so ingrained there is absolutely zero difficulty when fighting it because you learn that it’s attacks are incredibly predictable despite the erratic movements and the fight is just slightly more complex than the tutorial boss of DS3.
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>>736005962
Kill yourself, retarded brownoid
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>>735988739
its not his turn yet
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>>735983006
Tarnished Edition, when?
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>>735998859
yeah but how many of those moves are actually viable
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>>736006010
You don't have to fight all of them. This is only if you explore every corner of the world, the average player won't find even half of these.
There's nothing wrong with re-using enemies anyway, especially in a game as big as Elden Ring's. A player might miss some, may fight one early on and not see one again for dozens of hours, which gives them the same excitement the first time.
>zero difficulty when fighting it because you learn
After fighting it how many times, though? What you're describing is you getting better at fighting them.
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>>736006076
He should make it his turn and stop being a passive pussy
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>>736006010
Do you complain each time you have to fight a skeleton? Should every single enemy in the game be unique?
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>>736005962
Anonslop.
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>>736005437
It's either schizos or ragebaiters, no genuine person has 1000 webms to try and make arguments with internet strangers. It's also highly convenient that as soon as a genuine argument shows up, it's entirely ignored. Either way, it's best for everyone's mental health to ignore it all and move on.
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Not even close
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>>735983006
>open Elden Ring
>new character
>remember hour-long scavenging hunt
>close Elden Ring
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>>736006017
>>736006340
Rollslop.
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>>736007682
Roll and slop your tongue on my dick, faggot.
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Nah. They never graduated from their crappy world building
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>>735983362
Nah, compare Elden Ring to any Elder Scrolls game. ES games are the absolutely peak of copy pasting repetitive content.
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>>736007945
Roll. Slop.
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>>735996473
wait a minute, does the fat groundpound let you skip the whole section? i know the ds2 riposte trick on a frenzied merchant works here, what else lets you sequence break this
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Elden mid...worst From game ever...
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>>735983006
It certainly is on the list of games that can fight for that title
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>>735983006
OP here my bad guys this is the correct image
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>>735995075
Kek. I'm saving this one
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>>735986683
>It becomes very obvious when you enter the mines and find that every single elevator shaft is completely identical, even with the platforms you can jump down.
This is literally not true. What's copy pasted are enemies and minor bosses but every catacomb and mine has a different layout. Fuck off tourist.
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>>735999594
Nightreign is Elden Ring Roguelite. Every run is different because you don't know what you are gonna get
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>>735983218
dragoon doguma and doguma 2
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>>736010147
That's not true though. The randomization is extremely disappointing.
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>>735983218
Dragon Dogma 2, you can also create Caska aas your mail pawn
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>>736010020
Every mine has the same spiral of platforms at the elevator. Sometimes they put shit in the nooks and crannies to make it feel different. Even the elevator rooms in catacombs are mostly the same. Don't forget to hug the wall to get the alcove up above in nearly all of them oops you got caught on the archway and have to activate the elevator again turns out there's nothing there
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>>735983006
I will try it once they put it in a proper sale. 80$ discounted after 5 years since release date is too jewish for my tastes.
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>>735996729
Demon's Souls genuinely plays like shit and only people that obsess over Youtube video essays try and run interference for that mediocre hack and slash game being the best around.
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>>735983218
rediit post
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>>736009937
I feel bad for everyone that bought an N64 instead of a Playstation.
Its insane how the first decade of gaming Youtube was ruled by those losers.
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>>735986036
Good, those are all garbage. I don't want to play an action RPG to gamble money or do chores. I already do that everyday of my life.
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>>735983006
I liked it
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>>736015196
same
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>>735986036
Holy shit, I despise anyone who desires those worthless things to be included in games. I always hated it in Pokemon and I would hate it in Souls games.
>>735986126
Correct.
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>>735993991
Jujutsu Kaisen is for fags, though.
>>735994105
It's a little bit better with ashes of war, they're usable now. At release they were overpowered as fuck and trivialized the game, it was hilarious.
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>>736001109
Probably Demon's Souls in terms of looks and atmosphere. It's bleak, gray, oppressive and depressing.
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>>736005991
Woke shit..
>>736005962
>shootslop
>jumpslop
>driveslop
Retard.
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>>735986345
>guts armor removed from the PC release
So close yet so far.
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>>736017138
Just get the restoration mod
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bump
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>>735994837
Trvke
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>>735983218
The Raped and Gaped man
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>>735983006
Not even remotely true. The later parts are complete ass while the dlc is just more bosses that love spazzing out. The start is nice, very nice even then it just drags on and on for hours, empty world, every boss plays the same, every dungeon looks the same, exploration is non-existent, doubly so for the dlc what the FUCK where they thinking with putting useless 2 stones everywhere.
The series as a whole was already getting stale with ds3 and now it needs to get thrown in the bin.
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>>736024643
>exploration is non-existent, doubly so for the dlc
DLC has the best level design, untermensch.
Nothing in the base game has that multi-layered design, it's mostly flat. It's also more compact so the flaws of open world are less apparent.
This is the most retarded opinion on /v/ right now, congratulations.



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