They were lucky because of the built up good will of their television and camera departments carried them through the late '00s.

Dreamcast
Not commercially, but popular perception.

>>735991853
The 3DS sucked early on but got good.

the biggest advantage of the ps3 by the end was blu ray. i remember on 360 you had multiple discs at the end of that console's cycle and you were installing that shit to your already tiny 20gb hdd.

first party ps3 games also had a distinctive feel to them that i can't quite put my finger on

still preferred my 360, but they both had like a 10 year lifespan. impressive

>>735992174
also microsoft absolutely fumbled the 2nd half of the 360's life with shitty kinect and unoriginal 1st party games which helped sony sell a bunch of consoles

>>735991853
It had some good games on it but I still think this is the worst generation and the start of everything bad in this industry.

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Uncharted 2 is one of my most favorite games.

At least it had little big planet

>>735991853
PSP became hackers wet dream

>>735993186
Ok? You know there were other good exclusives right?

>>735991975
No one gives a shit about Dreamcast and its library was garbage

>>735993389
This is the weirdest lie

>>735991853
No.

It was, and is, for gay niggas.

>>735993539
Guess I'm a black gay king then because I love my PS3

>>735993539
BUT ENOUGH ABOUT THAT DILDO WAGGLAN ASS WII

>>735991853
had the fat ps3 with like 10 games

forgetable console desu. I remember my n64 and SNES very fondly, but not this

>>735994351
So it's bad because you're broke?

>>735993489
only millenial hipsters actually like dreamcast. If it was so good, why did it flop in like 2 years? The only thing that actually kept it up was sonic adventure

>>735992012
early 3ds is legit the worst mainstream console launch of all time. absolutely abysmal.

>>735994412
kys americunt
it was soulless and forgetable. Full of movie games just like all snoy nigger consoles after.

>>735994351
I remember the menu more than I remember the games desu. PS3 just was never good. A few good exclusives but nothing worth buying a whole console over

>>735994453
It flopped because of pirating. Why are you larping?

>>735994513
>Americunt
Are you the shitskin from the other thread?
Are you paid to shitpost on here or something?

>>735994453
Soul Calibur was the launch game that propped it up actually. Amazing console if you owned one back then, it felt truly next gen with a screen in the controller, memory cards that could play mini games that would transfer back into your actual game, and online play. Online play was a big deal because the Gamecube didn't really have it outside of Phantasy Star Online 1&2 and 3 from SEGA.

>>735994582
all americans are cunts. Arrogant and greedy. You deserve all the hate you get

>>735994807
So that's a yes.

>>735994780
>Soul Calibur was the launch game that propped it up actually
Kid, I don't think you were around in 1999 if you believe this....

>>735994936
Soul Calibur is STILL #2 on metacritic to this very day. It was the most hyped up game in every magazine.

>>735991853
>>735992012
Neither of these had a redemption though. They started as shitty consoles and died as shitty consoles.

>>735995114
I'm not saying it wasn't a thing, but the claim it "propped up the console" implies it was the sole reason why the console was selling which wasn't true.

>>735995218
Why even shitpost when people know you'e just pretending like you tried anything? Is this casual hour?

>>735993030
uncharted was kino considering it was rated T
my parents wouldn't let me have rated M games until i started buying them myself off amazon

>>735995365
>uncharted was kino considering it was rated T
What does this even imply?

>>735995553
That the PS3 is the zoomer's wet dream console. The PS3 has always been shit and introduced the world to cinematic "games". I don't know where this revisionist history is coming from, but the PS3 is fucking horrible and has no games worth playing on it if that MGS4 port is not censored and good.

>inb4 someone defends a $900 PS5 since Sonyfags love eating shit

The GameCube is very highly regarded today but in it's time it was the kiddie purple lunch box with silly mini cds and no gta

>>735991853
Mario ps3 was the hottest shit ever and it came out after the ps3 made its debut on the big screen of life. I also liked donkey Kong PlayStation universe, which had the classic design choices Nintendo is known for.

>>735994453
You dumb nigger. Why speak on things you are completely ignorant of. Sega was already out of money before the dreamcast even released

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>>735997254

I bought a 20GB model of the PS3 in early early 2007 and that piece of shit collected dust for a solid year or two before good games started coming out.

I had infinitely more fun with my 360.

>>735997039
Son I'm 40 and I've had every playstation console so I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>735997341
Well they became a third party devs after the dreamcast failed so not sure what you're memeing about, were you even alive during that time?

>>735997669
Oh and just to add, PSN really did suck. Xbox Live was so much more thought out for the time. I think PSN got hacked too.

>>735997790
All platforms have been hacked at one point, so what? That's not a talking point.

>>735997717
>I'm 40 and I've had every playstation console
That's even sadder, after the PS3 you should've just gave up on them. They decided to stop making creative games right then and there.

>>735997856
You're not even making sense. What do you mean?

>>735997834
In the context of this era, it was a pretty huge deal. It was out for like a month.

>>735997943
it was out for more than a month first of all.
Second of all, SEGA became a third party developers because of the problems they were undergoing because of (wait for it) the failure of the Saturn.
I know you zoomers don't know what that is. But the Saturn put SEGA in a really bad positiion.
Do you understand what I'm saying to you?

Thread got REAL QUIET when I started teaching you mouthy punk asses some fucking manners.

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The PS3 eventually got games? I don't think so. You're mistaken.

>>735999595
You wouldn't know, you don't play video games.

It was always good. Resistance and Heavenly Sword were better than anything on Xbox 360 it’s just PS3 was $600 so most people just went with 360

>>735991975
Dreamcast has no popular perception, people don't even know it existed around the same time as the PS2.

>>735999701
>it’s just PS3 was $600
?????

>>735999723
Bullshit. Actual bait posting? Infront of me?

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>>735991853
The original PS3 Fat had an insane cost to benefit value. An equivalent Xbox 360 would cost nearly $1000... also not considering all the trouble that the majority of the owners of the early models Xbox 360 had to endure to get a replacement or repair services.

PS3 was definitely the goat console, but thirdies and low IQ americans can only consider the price tag.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-360-failure-rate-542/1100-6215590/

>>736000201
What are you even talking about?
PS3 was the cheaper bluray player. 360 tried pushing HD DVD but it lost to blu ray.
is this just retarded kids trying to gaslight people? The fuck is this thread?

>>735991853
2006-2009 were truly the dark ages of Sony.
The PS3 flopped hard (I mean $600).
Sony lost a shit ton of money.
Loads of Sony exclusives (the reason many people bought the PS3 in the first place) went multi platform.
No worthy exclusives, especially when compared to the competition (reason the no games meme was created).
Only at the end of the gen Sony got their shit together while Microsoft shat the bed.

PS3 has the most memorable Sony exclusives of any PlayStation platform it’s when PlayStation really got its identity exclusives wise

>>736000371
Kid, PS3 was the best selling bluray player because actual bluray players were more expensive.
if you're claiming it "sold bad", it's because consoles become more expensive and a lot of people did not go on board until it dropped in a cheaper version (20 gb instead of 60 gb). It had nothing to do with the games themselves. The "no games" meme came from the fact a lot of people could not afford a ps3 until there was a more consumer friendly product.

Is this the "zoomers coping that they had to grow up with no-games consoles" thread?

You can whine and piss and shit about it but it outselling the 360 in the end despite everything is commendable.

>>736000627
Found another mouthy meme parroting nobody.

>>735999701
You only said that because you didn't have anything else to play. I've never being into Halo, Gears of War and other dudebro shit. But pretending Resistance was on the same tier is just pure delusion.
I remember normalfags and kiddies losing their shit with Halo/Gears of War and no-fucking-body gave a fuck about Resistance.

>>736000696
>I remember normalfags and kiddies losing their shit with Halo/Gears of War and no-fucking-body gave a fuck about Resistance.
Uh, at that time I was in college, why would I care what kids think?

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None of you would understand how fun this game was.
>>735999701
>Resistance
I remember this game too. It was good, I wouldn't say on par with Halo or Gears but good, so was the series. For some reason, everyone I encounterd in multiplayer were all grown ass men. They all wanted to get away from the kiddies in COD4 and Halo. To be honest, I was also there in launch COD4 and they were men in the beginning until the kids eventually found it.

>>736000627
Yes, obviously. They're getting mad when you call them out on this.

>>736000696
Correction from my post here >>736000741
I was already years out of college when Resistance came out.

>>736000914
Yes I do, I have it.
She was also in playstation allstars

imo the ps4 has almost the exact same trajectory. Sure, it wasn't immediately written off because of weird marketing & an outrageous price tag. But it had fuck all to play on it for FOUR YEARS.

>>736000495
First, I'm probably older than you.
Second, it doesn't change the fact PS3's sales were horrible during those years while the competition was doing alright. Hell, I remember Gabe talking about how horrible the early PS3 as a gaming system was.
Keep in mind I'm talking exclusively about PS3 early years.
>It had nothing to do with the games themselves
It had a lot to do because they failed to offer something interesting for the casual player while many Sony popular franchises, like final fantasy, were going multi platform.

>>736001095
And yet it outsold the 360. Yawn, you done? You're boring me.

>>736000741
>ugh, why should I care about the thing that makes consoles sell on a conversation about console sales?
Yeah, I wonder

>>736001095
And yet it outsold the 360. Yawn, you done? You're boring me over here cock sucker.
>I'm probably older than you
if we're both alive at the same time and I was already in my 20's when the ps3 came out, that means jackshit.

>>736001183
You think I buy things because kids think it's cool? The fuck is wrong with you? I bought it because IIIIIIIII WANTED IT. ME

>>736001182
You are either intentionally misleading my posts or an actual retard.
Which part of "PS3 early years" didn't you get? Why are you now bringing something that happened at the end of the gen?

>>736001306
Kids couldn't afford the system, how would they know anything was good?

>>736001306
Kids couldn't afford the system, how would they know anything was good?
MGS4 had Metal Gear fans foaming at the mouth. The first Assassin's Creed was not enjoyable that launched a whole franchise?
Who you trying to trick here? Them? Me? Yourself?

>>735991853
The 3DS, terrible launch year, ridiculous pricing, no catalog, they really thought it could just coast off of DS backwards compatibility but since everyone and their mom already had a DS they had no interest on the 3DS, the situation started turning around with the release of Ocarina of Time 3D and the promise of Super Mario 3D Land plus a hefty price cut, the announcement of Pokemon X and Y sealed the deal and the catalog was beefed up massively in the following 8 or so years, we got both a New Super Mario game, Mario Kart 7 and a Mario Maker port, two whole generations of Pokemon plus gen 3 remakes and ports for all the original gameboy games, Majora's Mask 3D on top of OoT and ALBW for Zelda, the big comeback of Metroid with Samus Returns, a really good Kid Icarus game, a full Smash Bros game, a massive deluge of SMT games (IV, Apocalypse, DeSu 1 and 2, Strange Journey, Soul Hackers and two Persona/Etrian Odyssey spin-offs), Fire Emblem Awakening, Fates and Echoes, two big Kirby games (Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot) plus a bunch of cool eshop spinoffs and a n Epic Yarn port, four Mario & Luigi games, Woolly Yoshi (The last good Yoshi game), Donkey Kong Returns, Xenoblade, Captain Toad and many more ports of games that were trapped on the Wii and its waggle gimmicks, and so on, it really was a great time for Nintendo gamers and yet it started so miserable.

>>736001385
>>736001448
This is a thread about early 7th gen console sales and situation, not your personal taste. And the facts are the PS3 was on the worst spot.
Please remain on topic. I have faith on you anon.
>Who you trying to trick here? Them? Me? Yourself?
Why so aggressive? Why are you trying to drag down the conversation?

>>736001813
>This is a thread about early 7th gen console sales and situation, not your personal taste
Like I give a fuck. Why do you whack jobs care about sales so much? It's not like you idiots have stocks in these companies.

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>>736000495
>>736001182
>>736001448
>so much time has passed since 2006 that there are posters on /v/ who aren't even aware of the "ps3 has no gaems" era
i don't want time to keep moving forward

>>736001950
I said nothing wrong.

>>736001975
you had to be there to understand

>>736002027
Now I know this is bait.

>>736001073
Uncharted 4?

>>735991853
PS2, PSP and especially PS3 were such beautiful consoles

>>736002042
you have to actually be a zoomer if you don't remember the disaster that the ps3 was at first

>>736001853
>I don't care about thread main topic, only about derailing with baits
Well, thanks for your honesty. Have a nice day, oh master troll.

>>736002131
>you have to actually be a zoomer if you don't remember the disaster that the ps3 was at first
Why would I care if I was enjoying what I was experiencing?

>>736002137
You want to pull that card? Cool. So PS3 outsold 360 at the end. Wow. Nice conversation.

>>735992012
I feel like the 3DS still has a disappointing library. It's not terrible but it's not as good as any prior Nintendo handheld. At least it's better than the Vita library. And it's backwards compatible with DS games.

>>736002171
wtf were you playing on your ps3 in 2007?

>>735997039
>introduced the world to cinematic "games".
adventure games and JRPGs did this before the PS3. The PS3 is just when action games got "cinematic"

>>736002242
In don't remember the exact time I had these, this was nearly 20 years ago so you'll have to forgive me.
But I had around that time:
Marvel ultimate alliance
Resistance Fall Of Man
Sonic 06 (Don't even start, I know)

PS3 had 7 player local multi-player and Sony was the only one still pushing multi-tap during the PS2. And there's no way to view those unique little PS2 save icons on any model of PS3

>>736002242
Uncharted Drake’s Fortune?

>>736002719
I'm intrigued, explain.

>>736002734
That was like the tail end of 2007.

>>736002756
You can play the full 6 players in Xmen arcade, it would have bee a great console to release Saturn Bomberman

>>736002864
Xmen Arcade? Ultimate Alliance or you make like the 90's Xmen arcade?

>>736002915
The 90s Konami arcade game that was delisted years ago but recently re-released on modern platforms but no modern consoles support more than 4 controllers

>>736003017
I'm aware of the one you speak of but what does ps3 have to do with this? Was Xmen arcade available on PSN without my knowledge before?

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Posers that don't know good games and spout memes. So Resistance and this wasn't good enough for '07, right.

>>736003115
Never played Warhawk.

>>736003069
It was on PS3 along with Simpsons arcade

>>736003480
I have simpsons arcade, I'm still missing the limited quarters trophy because it's rough on my own and I never knew anyone who has the game to help with it.

>>736003115
For me it was BF 1943 (and played a bit of Socom). Great game. Didnt have to pay for a subscription or anything, just could hop on the game any day of the year

>>735992012
3ds never "got good" they just kept making it cheaper and thus more appealing per dollar. The 2ds for, what was it, 89.99? was a great deal and I wish I got more than the one I have; but the 3ds itself was still retarded. Especially how long it takes to fucking boot, good lord.

>>735991853
Sony shouldn't have priced it so high and had given good documentation for developers to make games with it from the beginning. It would've reduced or outright avoided the disaster that started after the announcement of the PS3 to the 2008 fiscal year, where post Halo 3, Microsoft lost all of their steam and started making retarded mistakes for nearly 20 years now. Still was a fun time in gaming though. 10/10 would relive again

>>735999595
Yeah by 2008.

>>736001950
Dude, that wasn't even true by the halfway point of the 7th gen, hence why the PS3 started outselling the Xbox 360 after 2008/2009. Why the fuck do faggots still repeat this retarded meme from 20+ years ago and not even the funny ones

>>736004139
Japanese developers didn't know how to develop for the cell and and the developer manual was in Japanese, western developers were even worse and a lot of them were very used to the emotion engine and never transitioned to cell, at the same time Microsoft was money hatting Rockstar and Namco's niche ps2 franchises like katamari, tales and ace combat, and they lost tekken after always being a Playstation franchise but for some reason Microsoft couldn't get Frame City Killer out. Devil may cry 4 was never designed for cell and released on both consoles despite being marketed as a PS3 exclusive, same thing with Assassin's Creed. Microsoft spent a lot of money stealing Playstation exclusive games, it undermined PS3 for years but didn't strengthen Microsoft first party it was effective in the short term but a bad strategy long term because they couldn't afford to keep it up once PS3 install base grew

>>736001073
>But it had fuck all to play on it for FOUR YEARS.
The PS4 survived because of how badly the Wii U and Xbone were in comparison.
It still had exclusives worth mentioning like Infamous, Bloodborne, and Uncharted while being the best console for multiplats.

>>735991853
I'm hoping the Switch 2 goes through it's redemption arc, it probably won't with how many nintendo partners are gone in spite of new acquisitions, but still.

>>735997254
Sega's fault for having such an unprofitable console strategy.

>>735991853
>Those early PS3 years were rough.
reminder that you are looking at everything from the lens of a terminally online guy. i bought a PS3 for metal gear 4 in 2008-2009 and never really noticed anything major until i went online. maybe it had a lot less jrpgs sure but that was that. im not really trying to defend Sony, but normal people don't have a wikipedia library in their head. it's like the essence of /v/ is guys experiencing gaming vicariously through endless crying and shitposting. but it's not the experience of someone actually playing games.
i mean for an entire year my games were:
>MGS4
>DMC4
>Star Ocean The Last Hope
>Killzone 2
it was more than fine.

>>735991853
yea senpai, God of War Ascension was lit af

>>735994453
It flopped because consoles died after 5th gen and should've been replaced with PCs.
>Oh but other consoles
Nintendo hung on for the Gamecube when Sega didn't because they had no weird internal company disputes, Sony had a DVD player and like Microsoft they had a successful main business to continue shoveling money in the hole. They continued this until they became cultural staples for normalfags.
>>735994582
>It flopped because of pirating. Why are you larping?
Piracy is always copium for retarded company failure. Piracy only ever appears to affect bad media that is sold incompetently at too high of a price, because that media has no real target audience capable of funding it.
>>736002279
>"cinematic games"
Microsoft did that with Halo and Gears of War.

>>736000914
By the time I was in a spot to get it, the online was already dead. That said, I played the demo over and over. And then they just never did another game like it. They made a generic fucking dungeon crawler after and then the IP died. I hope that Fat Goblins manages to scratch that itch.
>>736003115
I really liked Starhawk. It was pretty neat.

If Lair launched without motion controls it would have been a 7/10 a decent system seller and the developer would still be in business but Kutaragi insisted on Sixaxis controls

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>>736004879
Huh. The more you know. Serve Microsoft right for being so bad at actually having a plan involving making games. Never knew about Frame City Killer though. Sounds like it could've been lit. What a shame. This bitch would've been the object of my lust for years during puberty.

Every game released on PS3 was better on PC so it was a pointless console and so was the one after the PS3 and the one after that etc

>>736008262
What is it with system exclusive games about dragons getting fucked by the console maker?

>>736007375
The early PS3 years were pretty rough just in general, but the no-games meme stopped being true in 2008 yet you are right after that rough spot. Sony did make up for the genuine lack of games with gems like the Resistance and Killzone games, Infamous, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, etc. and developers were making games on parity with the Xbox 360 by that time too so it was more a matter of console preference as to which one you wanted in terms of the games.

I think the fact that people still have console wars over 20+ year old consoles that don't have clear advantages or disadvantages like there objectively were in the every gen before the 7th gen just shows how lame modern gaming is. People would rather make up bullshit about 20 year old systems rather than bother with newer ones.

>>736008347
Metal Gear Solid 4 and God of War III looked better than anything on PC at the time of release, there was nothing on PC with God of War III's scale. The leap from Metal Gear Solid 3 to Metal Gear Solid 4 was one of the largest ever, the leap from Snes to N64 was impressive but we had games like star fox on snes, what was more impressive was the analog control for Mario and the waves in wave race 64 that still haven't been topped

>>736008654
Not really, bet you didn't even have a PC either

>>736008742
I did but I didn't bother upgrading past 2007 because the last PC exclusives were crysis and spore, everything since has been designed for the limitations of consoles

>>736008540
>The early PS3 years were pretty rough just in general
yeah im sorry this is still overanalyzing, terminally online nonsense. are you going to tell that an entire decade of PS1 and PS2 support meant nothing and i should throw it all away because of the first couple of years the PS3. they lowered the price and made more games. oh boy, who would have known.

>>735992012
The only saving grace of the 3DS is the ridiculous ease of piracy and thus the ability to play the libraries of the previous consoles

>>735991853
What? nobody cared about ps3 until 2013.
This false narrative that OP is using it is like youtubers and their precious n64 that nobody owned outside the USA.

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>newsflah
this 360 vs PS3 thing was a very American problem. the xbox didn't really have a strong presence outside of the US. literally everywhere else in the world the PS3 was the norm. it didn't have many games during the first years. big woop.

>>736009503
It's not really overanalyzing to say the PS3's first couple of years were rough because that's exactly what happened. It is completely fair to judge a console by the contemporaneous releases for the console and the PS3 was in a bad way until the Xbox 360 RROD debacle, the last release of a good Xbox exclusive for gamers (ever really) with Halo 3, the Games for Windows Live bullshit and the subsequent push for the casual market with the Kinect basically eroded Microsoft's goodwill and allowed Sony to succeed in the end.


>>736010916
That's objectively untrue, you Xbot faggot otherwise shit like Demon Souls, MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, the PS3 Ratchet and Clank games, God of War 3, the Resistance games, Infamous 1 & 2, Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection and a bunch of JRPGs and multiplats (all these games being released around 2008-2010) wouldn't have been or become big hits on the PS3.

I really do not get why faggots like you have to stand for a console that even Microsoft doesn't care about anymore. The 360 lost the 7th gen even if just barely because after Halo 3, there was nothing worthwhile on the system unless you count Kinect games and other casual shit on it, meanwhile that was precisely when the Sony got their shit together and made good games along with publishing and otherwise hosting good games on the PS3.

It's crazy how people are so retarded, they either go full Snoy or go full anti-7th gen Sony Xbot/tendie and make up shit that didn't happen just to defend a console war that doesn't even matter anymore. Just buy both consoles and enjoy both their libraries now. They're hacakble now and they both have good libraries.

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>>736012479
>It's not really overanalyzing to say the PS3's first couple of years were rough because that's exactly what happened.
Yes it is. Because it's only super important if the only value you get out of gaming is talking about it. Yes it didn't have many games during the first years, yes it was Sony's fault. But it's not like it was based around a short lived gimmick or it was catching on fire. Its worse sin was collecting dust for a year or two.

>>735992012
I dunno, the 3DS always just felt like the DS but shitter. Same with the Vita and PSP.

DS/PSP were the golden age of handhelds.

>>736000201
It's insane that they kept revising the 360 and the problem was never fixed. What the fuck was that thing's problem?

>>736000914
Fat Princess was the first game I played online on a console. Exquisite game

Enter the HD era, your options are
>make a faulty by design console that has an expiration date because it will inevitably burn up
>make a fake console by reskinning your previous console with a short lived gimmick that will give you the only fiscally lost years in your company's history
>make a console that will collect some dust for a couple of years

>>736001448
First Assassins Creed was a good game not a great game. Definitely above average and well made but it’s not some all time classic that everyone has to play

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>>736013590
>e-waste
>gimmick
>a little light on content
you guys really think this is even a discussion

>>736012412
I’m Australian. The Xbox was a kids console that their parents bought them so they could play COD with their friends, some of those kids bought the 360 when they had their own money but most of them moved over to ps3 because it was a better console and had Blu-ray

>>736013789
>their parents bought
>play COD
lol even. thats dog shit parenting even by todays standards.

>>736013920
lmao we played manhunt when we were 10

>>735992012
True, but that redemption took less than 2 years

>no rumble for like 3 years
how did sony fumble this hard