>thirdies got mad over lolnotranslations/lolnoconcert>toby kneeled and kowtow'd to thirdies within 24 hours, a panic move completely out-of-character for him>hated more than everWhat did we learn today? https://bsky.app/profile/tobyfox.undertale.com/post/3mia4smxehk2a for the non-knowers
>>735994473spic hereI don't care about shitty translations as I can just read it in english, more drama is always fun though
>>735994473we just had this thread. go away
BIG social media drama on the 'chon oh my science what hashtags should i follow
>>735994473Big news for the unemployed.
>>735994473>You don't get Spanish Undertale cause we ain't chinksNigga he literally speaks Japanese and has written for Famitsu.
>Cultivates a fandom of hyper-tolerant and inclusivity-driven people>Refuses to commit to the bit when fans demand you toHe painted himself into a corner. Let this be a lesson to every game dev who wants to preach leftist ideas.
>>735994473I didn't care about this nigger's games at all but after he fucked up OFF I just hope he burns in hell.Hopefully the spics kill him.
>>735995213>Cultivates a fandom of hyper-tolerant and inclusivity-driven peopleWhat? The Deltarune/Undertale fanbase is one of the most rabid franchises if you dare to go against the flow.
Someone should round up all the undertale fans and all the latinx into one room and then fill it with poisonous gas
>>735995279You're so close to getting it. Connect the dots.
>>735995197and? multiple games were translated to other languages where the dev didn't personally have to work on the translationor are you telling me toby will kill himself if some spanish kid doesn't get the seam/shawn joke?
Eso es politica!
Spics should fix their shitty economy if they don't want to be left out.
>>735995279>latinxno racial slurs outisde of /b/ thats seriously disrespectful
>>735995223>fuck up OFF>dont announce it on your twitter/bsky, where it has the biggest reach, despite working on it and it flops>months and months later he announces it for the jap release>for one day i thought toby wasnt all that bad>admits it was only because fangamer asked him toLMAO
>>735994473>toby kneeled and kowtow'd to thirdiesYou will get no concertYou will get no merch (because you keep stealing it)You will get no translationYou lost, essé
Toby's good boy points are usually enough to get him through things like this.
>>735994473>still carring about twitter in big 26
Nobody gives enough of a shit about latam for this to matter
>>735995420>multiple games were translated to other languages where the dev didn't personally have to work on the translationYeah, and Toby Fox cares more about his games than they did.Sorry!
Why are beaners so entitled all of the sudden? Are they secretly jealous that Toby gets to live the weeaboo dream while they don't?
reminder sebastian wolf is now loved in the LATAM community because of this whole debacle
>>735997181Inferiority complex basically
>>735994473he should just make undertale 3 exclusively japanese
>>735997181Zoomer spics who grew up with social media and the first world faggotry spilled up on them
That is a TrvkeNvke thoughever he doesn't have a Mexican to impress
>>735994473I am enjoying this because of the annoying ass fans getting mad but the funniest part is that he literally did nothing wrong here. "Tobyfox can fix our mail system and host concerts by himself" yeah ok dude>>735995420>bro just have lower standards for your art so more people can enjoy it!literally the brownest post I have ever seen on this website.
>>735995197he wrote for famitsu? god the japs have shit taste
>>735995420toby cares more about his game than every other indie dev cared about their own game, unironically
>>735995279Hollow Knight fanbase
>>735997069Have any other languages besides english complain about translators being too liberal with their script?
>>735994473Can this stupid fucking mutt just release the game? Thanks ive been waiting for 8 years
>>735997812No, he has to learn spanish first
>>735994473Dude is just autistic and doesn't want his epic chungus jokes to be mistranslated. To be fair, most people that are interested in it already know enough English to play it so translating it officially now makes no sense.The people clamoring for an official translation just want some sort of validation or appreciation, which they probably won't be getting. I do see the appeal of having a piece of media you like being fully translated to your native language, but it's more of a nice treat than something you should feel entitled to.
>latin languages fall back to male pronouns for unknown gender situations >Toby is dangerhairblooded I can almost hear these languages getting raped and tortured and gaped to conform to the subhuman twitterspeak "engl*sh" word rape they speak regarding to genders.
>>735995420Because if you don't understand the language, there's no way for you to tell if the person you paid for the translation is being accurate to the original work and following your vision. Stamping a seal of "official" on anything like that is an extremely dubious decision. Should be a very obvious thing to consider.
>>735998556>>735997069>>735997519>>735997631So pretty much every game can only be made in the languages the director knows and any other translation is a bastardization, got it
>>735998621Yes, you did get it, glad we agree.
>>735998621That's right.
>Undertale>Deltarune The most overrated games of all time. Glorified transgender pandering visual novels.
>>735994473>What did we learn today?the nazis are permanently BTFO since the 50s and counting
I think the memes are fun
>>735996830how do you steal merch? i dont even care about any of his shit games just asking
>>735999445The official merch is sold and distributed through Fangamer and the Latin Americans have to pay premium shipping fees (like >$100), because when they've tried to use cheaper local services to deliver the packages more than 50% get "lost" (stolen)
>>735998621Well, yeah. Look at the shit they do in other games and anime, and the creators are clueless about it because they don't know the language and blindly trust the translators.
thirdies mad because they're reminded they produce no great artists, no great creatives, hell, they can't even bothered to learn English in this day and age
>>735994864Realistically speaking why wouldn't he make spanish/portugese translations if there's an obviously huge latin american audience? It's just more profit and expanding the horizons, this is the most blatant case of throwing away free money i've ever seen.
>>735998621CorrectA turboweeb who actually learned japanese of all people would know better than to trust a (((localizer)))
>>735994473for real tho why not just learn english? im a thirdie and yet can speak english, chinese 1, chinese 2 and brown
>>736001082Off-topic but for an English native would it be easier to learn Mandarin or Cantonese?
>>736000879this is hard for third worlders to fathom but most people don't spend any ammount of time thinking about how to appeal to povery stricken brazillians and columbians by translating into portugese
>>736001210mandarin is all you need
>>736000879It's simply Toby being severely autistic about any official representation of his media needing to perfectly suit his vision. One of his favorite games is OFF, he knows what happens when all a foreign fandom has to go off of is a fan translation that might end up severely mistranslating something vital, which is why for a long while there was a lot of confusion over that game's narrative and who The Batter was even supposed to be.Ultimately though he's cool with fan translations, which is where the notion of "pick up the white pen, write your own things, retell them however you want, as long as the point gets across the same the words don't matter" comes into play.But an official translation is simply not something he feels confident in approaching, even if he hired a professional localizer team, because he'd still want to be intimately involved in the process and need to learn the language to make sure everything he's being told is truthful, accurate and upholds his vision, and doing so would also add a monumental amount of devtime to Deltarune when people are ALREADY seething about how much additional time the JP localization adds onto the wait between chapters.
>>735994473So capitulating like a human doormat DOESN'T make everyone like you?
>>735998621This is the core crux of localization discourse, actually, yes. Toby doesn't want any official localization of Deltarune to get bastardized to the same level as anime dubs where the localizers are injecting random current-day regional politics and memes that weren't there in the original script.Even Pokemon is guilty of doing this, and that's the literal largest, most successful multimedia IP in the world that should have basically infinite money to hire only the BEST localizers in the entire planet.
>>735995279Yes, the point is that these people are giant walking contradictions
I was in japan the last two weeks and in kyoto I went to the fangamer popup shop and the merch looked absolutely untouched. I did want to buy the yume nikki/omori/undertale protags shirt
>>735994473and? its his game
>>735997301if he could've he would've done so already to conform with his idea of being "trans-racial japanese"
>posts a message in englishso this is the power of mexicant leeches
>>735994473The infantilization of latinx society mixed with the infantilization of fandoms in general. Jesus fucking Christ, imagine being Toby Fox and having to deal with that.Also, you'd think Deltarune fans are fans in the first place because they played the game and understood the text, or they already have a reliable patch. So why bitch and moan about muh translation?
>>736002786UTDT fans all watched playthroughs lol
>>735994473Don't both Undertale and Deltarune have fan TLs in Portuguese and Portuguese? What a nothingburger
I don't get South Americans. Aren't you guys mostly conservative? Why do you like this blatantly gay and wussy game in the first place?
>>736000879Learning a new language takes a fuckton of time. TLD;DR'd it for you.
>>735994473>blocks out the name@saint_whynne>posts about 4chan threads in its faggot feedyou are a spic faggot for making your own faggot thread with your own faggot twitter post
>>735998621That's what Toby Fox has directly stated he believes, yes.
>>736000879He's a hardcore perfectionist who cares more about his game being translated absolutely perfectly than he cares about the money he'd get from the TL.
>>736002880Latin America has been mostly leftist for decades, trained to accept gibs and blame everyone else for the problems they cause. That's why they think they're owed a TL.
>>736001379>people are ALREADY seething about how much additional time the JP localization adds onto the waitAnd he already knows Japanese, so writing/editing/making assets/double checking is at least easier for him. You can imagine how much more time it'd add if he added translations for languages he doesn't know.
>>736003597what makes it worse is that he is fine with fan translations and accepts them and these gibs monkeys still demand some official translation
the hispanic kitchen I work in bumped this during close and it sounds vaguely toby foxian to me. am I retarded? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nRQT7mJ8hs
>>735994473Latin Americans say there's no reason why he can't just make a translation when it's been over a decade and he's swimming in money, not to mention the fanbase is pretty big over there. But I'm like: and?When I was a teenager I wished for Atlus to translate the Persona, and currently while I would prefer my games to be in Spanish (especially games with complex terms), I cannot imagine myself getting pissy about games not having translations to my languageForget the excuses Toby Fox is giving out, he's not obligated to translate his games to every language in the world. I don't care about Undertale, but this feels to me like foreigners demanding to be catered to just because they're visiting a popular tourist siteAnyway, I'd probably be more forgiving of the people demanding a translation if they didn't act like the creator has a grudge specifically against themt. Spic
>>735994473The arguments are retarded. "He could have spent the last 10 years learning spanish" like nigga you could have spent the last 10 years learning english.It's the mother 3 shit all over again. All the people who want to play it in some official english translation have already played the damn game in english.
>>736003691Especially languages that literally don't have a widely agreed way to refer to someone gender neutrally. He'd have to make entire-ass script rewrites that hinge on this idea that Kris can only be referred to by name, nickname, title, insult or some other moniker because that's the genuine closest he can get to "they/them". And even THEN he'll still have to add a big glaring note at the start of every chapter about Kris's gender situation because there's otherwise no other way to convey this information clearly if Toby has no intentions to have a deliberate scene in the game where Kris's gender is discussed by the characters, and someone like Toriel, Asgore or Noelle offers context for the unknowing.
I'm Mexican and I fucking despise undertale and everything it spawned the further that shit stays away from me the better.
>>736004502Ummm we have elle in spanish sweetie
>>736004613I'm mainly talking about Portuguese in particular, since the real shit stirrers of this whole drama are the twats from Brazil.
>>736004613How come I've seen NO ONE think about using ello? At least it's an actual word
>>736004667O at the end denotes masculine and an A a feminine.A car (carro) is a he, a truck (camioneta) is a she.Using O just brings us back to male by default and that's problematic and sexist.
>>736001290oknow, PLEASE, tell Coke Company this, so they can leave my Country and water alone.
>>736004724We already have él, but I can definitely see someone saying that
as an indie dev i can confirm (and have heard from other devs) that spanish and portuguese speaking people are weirdly entitled. they will send you messages in their language even if you don't speak it and ask for an official translation even if you don't have the resources. not often i've seen that kind of entitlement, even chinese people are less of a PITA
>>736004773It's funny how they can simultaneously act oppressed yet not seem oppressed at all, one of the more popular critiques I've seen about UT/DR is that "ALL THE OTHER INDIES HAVE SPANISH/PORTUGUESE SUPPORT, WHY NOT YOU!?!?!?!?!?!?!?" and then they also go "NO ONE MAKES ANYTHING FOR US, WE'RE LITERALLY STARVING FOR FOREIGNER MEDIA" in the exact same breath.
>>736004613>>736004667God bless the spaniards by making their language tranny-proof and any attempt of gender revisions sounds retarded when spoken due to weird phonetic rules of the language that makes it impossible to troonify
>>735994473
>>735994473>HE KNEELED HE KNEELED HE KNEELED HAHAHAHAHA>read response>"i don't have time to focus on you, fuck off spics"Eyup, I'm thinking OP is a self-hating brownoid.
>>735994864This is the correct and based spic take.>>735995197Who cares? Japanese is the origin of video game culture after Atari. Chinks are only getting sloppy seconds every single other time.
>>736004837>WE'RE LITERALLY STARVING FOR FOREIGNER MEDIAI don't know how anyone can say this when even as far back as the early 360 era most AAA games didn't even have a spanish subtitles option. It wasn't until microsoft started pushing for local translations back in the xbox hueg era and sony and most AAA devs started doing it late into the PS3.We have more translated works and media than we've ever had every single AA game or better has latin america spanish as an option now.I don't know nor care about huehuehues btw they can eat shit.
>>736004948He still kneeled because he gave them a response at all. Now all of them know that Toby will take the time out of his day to respond to whatever inane bullshit they're chimping out about as long as they're loud and persistent, no matter what the topic is as long as it's even loosely related to him.
>>736004773Can't speak for Brazilians, but it's because Spanish of the most spoken languages in the world and we're a community of several countries who speak the same language. They come to believe you're depriving lots of people from experiencing something by not catering to themI saw people pull out this shit over the official Umamusume Discord server not having a channel for Spanish speakers, claiming they're being excluded
>>735994473FINISH YOUR FUCKING GAME AND STOP GOING INTO TANGENTS LIKE HAVING TO STOP FOR MONTHS DUE TO ENGINE RELATED CODE DEBT OR INANE TRANSLATION WORK THAT WOULD WORK BETTER IF YOU FINISHED EVERYTHING IN ONE GO
>>736004979>w-well, he s-still kne-*sniffle* kneeled, and, um, h-he's btfo and *sobs hideously*Sounds like subhumans are seething over the dog again.
>>736004973It's definitely BRs pushing that angle the most. They're too poor for actual gaming consoles so they don't count console localizations, and because they run toasters due to poorness they also can't count games with actual system requirements, which then reduces them down to low-demand fields like indie games, VNs and retro emulation.
>>736005060He responded once. He's going to be expected to respond again. And if he doesn't, it won't just be the huehs and taco munchers who get mad at him now that he's showing himself to be an inconsistent twat.
>>736005068Brazil does not speak Spanish but Portuguese. Its not Brazil. Rest of the LATAM speaks mostly Spanish.
QUEREMOS TL
>>736000879>Asking more content of tobbias the decade long development hell foxIf tobby wasn't such a weeb the game would only be in englishHe does THE bare minimum, i bet a lot of the non clarified schizo bait is created out of laziness to not specify
>>735994473The funny part is that the Japanese translation is basically a completely different script from the english one. I wouldn't even call it a translation.
>>736004773I'll translate your game, anon
>>736005303Yup, even down to the point where it has exclusive lore implications that aren't there in the English script.
>>736005368>It clears that kris can't enter a dark world without a soulTobby is just incompetent
>>736005068For those mentally impaired anons who learn only through visuals.
>>736005401Not even incompetence, he just genuinely hates the fandom he's accumulated outside of the JPN fandom.
>>736005502I get that the standard undertale fan is an ugly bag of mental illnesses but those people made him rich and allowed him to meet all the cool people over thereHe could be less of an ass to everyone
>>736005598He has no reason to care for us simple folk any longer when he's sipping fancy with his idols and getting big favors from Nintendo, fortune corrupts just as much as power.
>>735995976>Advocate for diversity, gays, troons and other liberal stuff.>make games about how cool it is to be friends with everyone, even if you're human and they're monsters, because what matters is what's in their SOULS>Fans from other country are asking for a translation of your game about love and rainbows.>"Bruh shut the fuck you stupid nigger subhuman trash you are not actually a person"How so?
>>735998720Based kozel.
Why don't the spics just make their own fan translation like they do for most shit
>>735994473Just learn English, why is it always the Spanish? Can't you fucks learn another language?
>>736005654Being grateful for the support, being fond of how he grew as an author, regular human decency to not just throw away people as assetsBut alas, many people are like him, "its normal" for that to happen
>>736005823im pretty sure a fan spanish translation exists but my guess is alot of south americans dont own access to a pc and use whatever gaming console they can afford to play it, which doesn't have access to any of the fan-translations
>>736005863is only a topic because he replied, still if he wanted he could get some fans to do it or even some machine translation if he is feeling lazy
>>736001210No
>>735998621this isn't the dig you think it is, retard.get owned.
>>736005005why can't they make their own fucking discord if it's so important to them? jesus
>>735998258HmmThat actually makes sense...>elles, ellxsCreo que es mejor que no traduzcan los juegos de manera oficial...
>>736005340i don't got much of a budget thobeit
>>736006271Because that doesn't solve the inherent want for everyone else to be forced to learn and use Spanish as the primary language of the internet. They want to dangle server activity right in front of Non-Spanish speakers and make them jealous with how busy the Spanish channel(s) are to a point where they want to learn Spanish just to be a part of it.And if the internet is primary Spanish, that tells media creators that they need to start making dedicated Spanish localizations for their media, and it becomes as norm as the usual English + Chinese combo.
>>735998674>>735998720>>735999797>>736000912>>736001492>>736006245>Erm ACTUALLY YES!They all start crying as soon as there is no English language in the game.
>>736006437No, I suck it up and wait until a fan translator who's doing it out of pure passion commits to a fan translation of the media, or I just suck it up even harder and learn the native language.
>>736006375Because that worked so well for Hindi .
>>736006351And I'm not a translator but I'll do it for free
>>736006271>>736006375The funniest part to me is that the global version of Umamusume is only translated to English. They were also pulling out the "other servers have channels for foreign languages"It's like they want a space for them wherever they go
>>735994473why do they get so mad over no translationsif you're a fan then you played the games and can understand englishif you need a translation then you aren't a fan so why should you care so much, play something else
Has Mexico ever made a good video game?Or any video game at all for that matter?
>>735994473to be fair with him being on tour spics will know his location and can OFF him
>>736006665Fan translations aren't good enough because those are PC-only, and most of them are too poor for a computer.Also in UT/DR's case, they'd be crucified by Americans and bilingual progressives for consuming a fan translation, adopting the notion of "Kris is a boy, the translation I used said so" because the translator didn't care to or couldn't adapt Kris's "they/them" shit due to language incompatibility. So without an official localization that has Toby's direct intended vision for how to address a character like Kris, they'll never know what the "correct way" is to avoid being canceled, and that creates an even deeper yearning for official localization.
>>736006728Uhh, Kerbal Space Program?
>>735994473The guy quote replying him is absolutely right. You can't make the most popular indie game in the world and choose only to localize it for Japan, going as far as to delay new chapter releases so that Japan can also play day 1. That Japan bias is insane
>>736007021>You can't make the most popular indie game in the world and choose only to localize it for Japanwhy not
>>736007179Disingenuous
>>736007021>You can't make the most popular indie game in the world and choose only to localize it for JapanDidn't stop Cave Story or Yume Nikki.
>>736007263Toby is only fluent in English and semi-fluent in Japanese, plus all these Spics can apparently read the English version just fine.
>>736007021>Says he can't do that>Does thatSo he can then?
>>736006474How about you suck me up
this has unironically lowered my opinion of mexicans and brazilians on the interneti saw some of them saying the chapter releases should be delayed another year to add more languages, fucking kill yourselves
>>736003539>>735998556>That's what Toby Fox has directly stated he believes, yes.If that was how it worked in reality then Mother/Earthbound will have never been released in the west for him to have played. His games aren'a sacred cows and he isn't a game-development genius he's just some guy. He doesn't need to understand a translation to make it official, he just needs to get off his high horse.
silksong had a chinese translation that was so bad the game got review bombed and they had to retranslate it and it was still shit so it had to be retranslated yet again celeste's japanese translation had a word that was basically equivalent in offensiveness to "retard" (kichigai) used in its translation and it caused a major controversythe people saying "you should just pump out translations for 200 different languages or you're racist" are genuinely fucking retarded
If I ever go Indie I would never cater to screaming third worlders or bugmen. If it's good enough you'll do it for me for free and its better that way autistis fanlations would be better for everybody than some corposlop
>>735997591Top kek
>>736008001>If that was how it worked in reality then Mother/Earthbound will have never been released in the west for him to have played.He doesn't even care about MOTHER 1 or 2 all that much anyway, MOTHER 3 was his biggest inspiration and that's the one that never got localized.
>>736007021If I made a popular indie game I would deliberately choose not to localize it for Japan, just so I can say "HOW DOES IT FEEL, MOTHERFUCKERS? HOW! DOES! IT! FEEEEEEEEEEL?!??!!??!"
>>735995213>>Cultivates a fandom of hyper-tolerant and inclusivity-driven peoplethis always a mistake, and a ticking time bomb waiting to explode in your face, those niggers are waiting for you to make the smallest slip up so they can devour you whole, bones and all, just to satisfy their hunger for their warped sense of "justice"
>>736004418Bro are you one of those retards who uses their pc in Spanish?
>>735995279"tolerance" for those kinds just means worshiping browns and gays, they are vehemently against any diversity of thoughts/beliefs/opinions, you will be beaten in line or else shunned
>>736004613Not a real thing in Spanish.
>>736000879Because he doesn’t know the language, and if he doesn’t know the language, he can’t give feedback on the translation process. If he can’t give feedback, he can’t possibly know if his intent with the writing is being accurately carried over or not. What if the translators let their own assumptions about the game’s story leak into their writing? What if the translators misinterpreted a line during translation, and now everyone who speaks that language thinks that misinterpretation is the truth? Or worst case scenario, the translators could rewrite the dialogue entirely, sucking out or changing the personality of certain characters, or inserting tonally inconsistent “jokes”.Toby doesn’t want to make any official translations if he can’t be assured that everything they say is, well, official.
>>736008994Worst of worst scenarios, the translators decide Kris is a boy or a girl because they can't be assed to figure out how to translate gender ambiguity (or their definition is "assume male until proven otherwise"), and then all hell breaks loose because of what the fandom's decided based on a pedophile groomer's foundational standard.
>>735997693In my country the liberty of translators ends on localizing country specific jokes. Otherwise you are an unprofessional hack.
>>735998621this post was made sarcastically but it is completely 100% correct also it applies to all media, movies books comics etc, not just games
>>735994473based japanophile weeb dabbing on latino monkeys and entire western audience
>>736008521You can't make anything, thirdie
>>735994473I DON'T CARE, EAT DOG FOOD.
if i can rally thirdies to curbstomp that hack, i fucking will
>>736004502>>735994473He can't make a Spanish translation because he's a fucking jews and Spanish is a gendered language, so he would have to use either male pronouns or neopronouns on him.Any of those two options will make everyone extremely mad
>>736009541>official translation does it>everyone seethes at Toby because fandoms know their media better than the creator does>fan translation does it>everyone seethes at Toby because it's allowing ignorance to spread and become common place among "one of the biggest parts of this fandom worldwide" and since most are ESL, that means it starts permeating into English fandom tooIt's a lose-lose. Toby never should've played the gender ambiguity game for a character he refuses to let himself openly talk about and likely won't talk about until a major anniversary stream, the same way he held back ten fucking years to openly acknowledge Chara by name and speak of the character at length.
>>736008086the funniest thing about the original silksong chink translation was the guy behind it didn't just rewrite everything into flowery, hard-to-read shit but he even bragged about it on chinese social media. translators never change
>>735994473You know something I just remembered another indie game studio that is super autistic about making sure their game and official translations fit their vision and as a result it's only in KR, EN, and JP since the schizophrenic director has to personally scrutinize every single line of text.However they said fuck it and added official in-game support for fan translations to where people can submit and rate translations for their languages inside the game, which I found rather funny that they just went "do it yourself" but at the same time gave all the tools and support to make it as easy as possible, a JP dev or toby fox could never imagine doing something so based
Italian translation when.
>>735998621yeahdid you think otherwise?
>>735994473On every surface level I feel I should not like Toby Fox, but every thing he says and does commands a dedication and vision to his art that deservedly makes him a giant among all other indie devs. Total respect.
>>736009308kek
>>736010376dirty niggers will never make Earthbound to impress him
what does it even mean?
I sometimes use it in EnglishPracticality vs. comfort
>>736010517Meant for >>736008885
>>736008885Tu no?
>>736010570No. I starting using PCs long before Spanish editions where a thing and by the time Spanish versions of Windows where a thing it felt almost foreign to use it in Spanish. I learn PC English which is very different from PC Spanish.
>>736008303>He doesn't even care about MOTHER 1 or 2 all that much anywayYeah he would never care about Earthbound to the point where he made a Halloween Romhack of ittl;dr- eat shit faggots
Perro caca
>>736010829Yeah, and one of his big pitches for the initial facade was that he remixed a MOTHER 3 song in it.
Id respect Toby Fox for this decision if he wasnt actively delaying the game to glaze the Japanese audience.
>Ash-Veil Lane actually came back>channel banner shows those fucking eyes in the cell>now the channel description is "If I stop uploading weekly, assume I've moved on to bigger and brighter things."
>>735994473Spics are still shitting on him. Hope Toby finally learns there is no winning with these "people", but I doubt it.
>>735994473I don't get why they're making it about race when his reasoning couldn't be more crystal clear. If these taco munching ass niggas were such huge fans as they claim they are then they would know Toby is not the typical indie guy.He's a passionate artist who's very hands-on and particular about his work. Whatever.. release the next chappy already you dog fuck.
>>736010376>trans colorsNeed I say more?
>>736002803This. I’d wager 70 percent of the fanbase don’t even play other RPGs like Mother despite Toby constantly telling them to
All of this started because Toby didn't include Brazil in the concert World Tour
>>736012304The more woke retards cancel Toby the more chudified next chapters will be
>>736012304It's just the good old nationalism. 99% of the outrage is coming from angry spics, who are famous for harassing every popular game that happens to lack a LATAM localisation.
>>735997693My country tends to be the opposite. The most celebrated translations are those that take liberties and prioritize flavour and flow over slavish accuracy.
>>736000879Other reasons aside, translating to a gendered language would basically only give Toby two options>Use the neutral masculine like a normal person, American fans riot because muh heckin nonbinary Kris>Completely butcher the language to the point of being near intelligible to be "gender neutral", all the people from that language complain.No matter how much redditors say, NOBODY outside their retarded site likes their idiotic "neopronouns". It is utterly incomprehensible babble.
>>736012304He's very autistic about his integrity and that's what upset people
>>736004613Doesn't work in Portuguese, in there even the normal words are gendered, or affect the phrase.
>>735994473By that logic Toby is also a russophobe, polishphobe or whatever other country that doesn't have an official translation.
>>736013365the reasonable move would be to just use neutral language since he obviously doesn't believe in neo pronouns and "non binary" shit. Why the hell would Toby care about minority of woke morons from tumblr but he doesn't give a shit about billions of spics?
>>735995279Yes, that's the point. They are rabid when it comes to their own self righteousness. Now this can be used against them and Tricky Tony every time they open their mouth about how inclusive they are. That's a pretty good victory for the detractors.
>>735998621Yes, this has been the stance of this godforsaken board for decades. Glad you finally get it.
>>736004613I remember when the lgbt movement trying to force non-binary pronouns in Brazil and it just became the joke of the month.No matter how much leftists try, the majority of Brazilians are still right leaning christians, even with all the contradictions and hypocrisies.
>>736013497Yeah well there is no neutral language. The fantranslations pirouette the hell out of the dialogue to try to dodge around it but in the end Kris is still referred with masculineWould have been so damn easier if Toby just called Kris a He. Kris couldn't be more blatantly masculine of a character if he tried. I blame homestuck for doing this to him.
>>736010482I envy spanish speaking countries, this kind of humor is unacceptable in Brazil because our societal norms are just copies of the American societal norms x100.What do right wingers in Brazil support? Whatever the American right supports!What do left wingwrs in Brazil support?Whatever the American left supports!
>>736004872That's just a quirk of all romance languages. You sound like a retard if you are trying to larp as something that isn't a man or a woman. They/them are forced to refer to themselves as men or women every time they are talking about anything they are doing or feeling. They are always one conversation away from acking themselves. Spaniards did not even need to do anything, it was backed into the language from the moment it ceased being actual latin.
>>736008907And that's a good thing actually, you subhuman wh*teoid.
>>736013627Seriously I could buy it in UT even if Frisk looks more male to me. But Kris sleeps in a room with “their” older brother the idea it’s not a boy is so fucking dumb
>>736014014As we all know siblings of opposite sexes inevitably rape each other if left alone together for more than a few hours.
>>735994473>All shipping methods to South America had a 50% or higher lost package rate This is the logistics company very nicely and softly telling Toby that South America is too full of thieves and liars to be profitable to sell to.Maybe 15-20% of those goods were lost or stolen, the rest were just claimed missing for a refund
>>735995213If you think the BRs whining about this are Progressives you're a fucking idiot.BRs are some of the most casually racist people I've ever met
>>736009308>RE2 not listed above Kamiya?
>>736000879Its impossible to not gender Kris. You say the Portuguese equivalent of They, and theres like, the plural male and plural female. Everything has a gender here. Boats are male, tables are female, grapes are female, plates are male, you cant do non binary shit, even if you force it it sounds like instinctual levels of wrong. Its nigh impossible.
>>736014128Boys and girls need privacy from each other it has nothing to do with lolrape imagine girl Kris room smelling like spunk because Asriel jerked off to the purple dragons manga
>>736013704What the fuck is your dumb ass talking about The last "left leaning" BR I talked to was hideously racist and kept throwing around maricon like it was gonna stop being a word at midnight
When I was a kid I had to learn English or no video games. What is this entitlement from Gen Z and Alpha? Is it laziness and narcissism? They're all PC pirates in South America, Mexico, and Eastern Europe.
>>736014359It's really funny when retards like you that only speak english pretend gendered languages don't have gender neutral declensions -o means boy and -a means girl!Yep, and -e is neutral.
>>735997693Most LATAM countries get horrifically dogshit translations, but nobody cares because LATAM countries are filled to the brim with people who only know 1.5 languages (and despite the state of their countries, they have an undue amount of national pride, so they'll never admit when a TL is bad).
>>736014447>Boys are just incapable of jorking in the bathroom they WILL use a shared spaceWeirdo
>>736000879PC gaming piracy in Portugal, Spain, and Latin America legendary. Practically their way of life.
>>736013627THere must be a phrase in Latin America that refer to neutral gender/unspecified. How do they gender ghosts, robots or living stone blocks and golems in video games and fantasy books??? Just make everyone male by default? Even earthworms?
>>736014607Ele is male him, ela is female her, Elo is nothing. Eles is male they, Elas is female they, Elos is like a chain link nigger. Do not tell me how to speak my language seu filho de uma puta mal parida paneleiro de merda.
>>736014128Human women have a thing called "menstruation"
>>736014751In Latin languages everything has a sex yes. Ghosts are male, so are demons and shit. Curtains aint blue, they are girls.
>>736014760>But what about these exceptions!Elu.lol silence retard
>>736014804>>736014760>I speak .5 languages Typical American
>>736014842Elu doesnt exist, what the fuck are you on about? Thats literally not a thing.
>>736014490First of all, i doubt it, Brazilians don't use maricon, that's Spanish. If you said 'viado' i'd believe you. But that's to expected from gringos.Now, pretending that what you said is actually true:Ask that same BR if he would be doing that in public or while being broadcasted to thousands of people. One thing is being racist in a discord server with 100 people, you're not important or relevant so the government won't use you as an example.Try going on Twitter or in any social media, try debating with the common brazilian normie about racism or politics relating to racism, it's just a copy of the American arguments but without consistency or reason, just blatantly repeating slogans. I kind of get it when /pol/ says that brazilians are protozoomers desu.
>>736014789>Everyone knows that boys can't jork in the bathroom and girls have to freebleed in their bedsYou should be in a cell
>>736014736That entire continent joined the hypervisor botnet
>>736014751>How do they gender ghosts, robots or living stone blocks and golems in video games and fantasy books???EL fantasmaEL robotLA piedra vivaEL golemEven objects are gendered.LA cosa
>>735994473>bluesky nigga with no backbonedeserved
Toby will pay for abandoning the Yiik fanbase
>>736014917>This was a discord server rightThis was in public in South Florida you dumb bitch>Ok b-but it's not broadcast!1 - I've watched multiple BRs take over twitch categories and they're racist as fuck, that shit is absolutely "broadcast to thousands of people"2 - why the fuck would public broadcasts matter when we're talking about individuals and their politics? Are you stupid?3 - I know this guy well and if you challenged him his response would have been to scream nigger at the top of his lungs BRs are not US progressives, they're way fucking behind.
>toby is terrified about translating his game to a real language and seeing people use a male pronoun for Kris (male pronoun is used for neutral genders) which will cause mass deaths on neanderthal noise speaking countries>Despite even his own birth language already using "him" neutrally colloquially and most people not giving a shit about it Male kris is the truthDoe impregnation is canon
>>735994473YWNBJ
>>735994473That Toby still LOVES nippon above all and they need to be content in being second class citizens.
>>736015115You know toby fox doesnt have your back when shit gets real so theres no one left to stand up for him
he's getting torn apart.should've released the newsletter, faggot.
>>735998621This but unironically.
>>735998621Yeah.
>>735998621Literally yes
>>735994473Nah, the panicking is totally in character. The saga of the deflowering animation in Deltarune is proof of that.
>>736000879Because he only loves nippon. Simple as. The japanese translation only exists because he is a weeb.
>>736010482>Jewish TobyThe prophecy has been fulfilled.
>>735999697How is it fan gamer or Toby's fault if your postal service is run by criminals?
>>736014014Frisk looks like a cute girl though.
>>735994473>he posted it on bluesky but not twitterCOWARD!!!
>>735994473Toby tells a big fucking fib in the middle of this where he says he only translated it to languages he himself speaks. Toby did not speak japanese when Undertale was originally translated.
>>736013365You forget the third optionRead FUN value if odd start with male if even start with female but in both cases alternate the gender every single time it appearsPersisting over saves and loads too just to fuck with people
>>735994473>panic moves>completely out-of-character for himhe impulsively panicked as soon as twittards started to point out the deflowering thing too, and then he immediately patched it into a red pixeltoby cannot handle any sort of controversy. deltarune must be palatable to everyone. unless you're south american
>>735994864The lack of translations is unironically based because it filters out low IQ brainlets, the UT/DT fanbase is bad enough as is, it doesn't need huemonkeys and pacos added to that, even if it could lead to infighting with the trannies and drown them out
>>735994473He should have just told those monkey eaters to fuck off.
>>736006437>says a completely factual statement as if it's the most baffling thing since cavemen saw fire for the first time>then gets pissy when everyone doesn't agree with their interpretationi'm sorry you got completely blown the fuck out of the water by people who actually know what fan translations are
>>736017751It's not.Those packages made it to their destinations, they were just either picked up off the porch or reported stolen for a refund despite timely delivery.
>>736014313And yet you can get 15 years in prison for making monkey gestures at a nigger
>>736014313>BRs are some of the most casually racist people>look inside>self-deprecating humor that's more or less "yeah we do wear sombreros and go 'Arriba!' haha yeah you want some tacos mang?"
>>736015284Ok but what about frisk and chara?
>>736013424>autistic man making autistic games is very autistic and it's very obviousoooh wooow whooo would have gueeessed
>>735994473toby responding to faux-outrage from the troonsky fanbase he cultivated is intensely embarrassing. can't wait for him to backtrack on this and for the next chapter to get delayed. and for someone so intent on creating things that match his vision he sure changed the rape scene pretty fast!
>>736018325They're cute girls and my wives.
>>736018307Take a look at their soccer federation twitter post when they lost to France. They make American racists look tame. They are using AI to place one of their black players' head into a pile of shit.
>these are the people who want you to use "elle" when referring to Kris
>>736018307>dude bro you don't get it we're just self-deprecatingUnless you're all black and gay the shit you people say is not self deprecating.If you're actually BR you're probably just so used to the idea that darker skin (not even actual african ancestry, just being a dark BR) makes you inferior that it doesn't seem like racism.
>>735995420>or are you telling me toby will kill himself if some spanish kid doesn't get the seam/shawn joke?More likely than you think
>>735994473y'all a bunch of shameless trannies
>>735994473Reminder that most of this drama comes from children with too much time on their hands. There's no reason to take this seriously.
>>735998621shakespeare and goethe get translated to every language but these pseudo elitists will swear theses games are unstranslatable
>>736018472>and for someone so intent on creating things that match his vision he sure changed the rape scene pretty fast!REMINDER THAT THE SPICS ON TWITTER DONT KNOW THIS YET>REMINDER THAT THE SPICS ON TWITTER DONT KNOW THIS YETREMINDER THAT THE SPICS ON TWITTER DONT KNOW THIS YETONCE THEY DO, ITS OVER
>>736019713what the fuck are you talking about retardevery tourist like you needs to be killed. the rose shit gets posted literally daily whenever people talk about deltarune on this board and the moment people started posting about "The Rape Scene™" it was all over twitter instantly. they're all aware. everyone who has played these games is aware. the spic fanbase did not appear last thursday.you're literally only in this thread as a tourist without object permanence. you literally forgot deltarune existed until this thread was made. don't reply to me again.
>>736019667show me where shakespeare agreed to have his work translated
>>736020070Stop being a suck up for Toby Fox.
I'm pretty sure he could get someone to do it for free, fan-translations already are a thing. It's only a matter of trusting another person to join his dev team and not leak the chapters all over the internet.
Authors shouldn't chat with their audience as if they were friends.These kinds of controversies only arise because the author is on the same "level" as the consumers. I'm not saying this in an elitist way, but from a practical standpoint. When the author is literally right there among the consumers, talking to them, cracking jokes, and listening to their suggestions firsthand in Discord servers or some shit, it's impossible to avoid this kind of thing.Professionalism didn't just happen by chance. There's a reason why, in a professional setting, the way an author receives suggestions and criticism is indirect.
>>736020754Professionalism wouldn’t really help here it’s very transparently just racism in a way that legalese speak can’t get around
>>736019994>the rose shit gets posted literally dailythats a lie, faggot. you're projecting because you dont actually come to the daily deltarune threads if theres no drama.dont worry little tourist, i think its time for them to find out
I think it's funny brownoids wont get deltarune translated in their taco langauges
>>736021976We talk about doerape every thread, but not about the rose, yeah
>>735994473The problem here is what exactly is wrong with the fan-translations that exist? Toby is clearly giving the effort his blessing, even if he can't verify their quality.It's either extend Deltarune development another 6 months a chapter to translate it in another language while everyone gets pissy about having no content, or only non-ENG/JP regions wait an extra 6 months on their specific language fan translation, and it's obvious what the preferred option is for most people.If you care so much about experiencing a foreign game as fast and as purely as possible, put in the effort to learn it's language so you don't have to wait a year for a fan translation, like many Japanese game loving westerners often do.
>>736022220gee it's almost like loud ESL's coming into other spaces to demand free shit tend to be douchebags
>>736020951>it's just cautious avoidance of a difficult market if you have power and influence>if you're not one of the chosen, it's simply racism, period
>>736014842Thats progressive schizo babble made by retards and completely butchers the language, its not even recognized by the official letters academy or any educational institutions due to how retarded it is and only pushed by deranged retards who consumed too much american progressivismGenuinely kill yourself you room temperature IQ bitch
>>736012304Is that Josie?
Sucky Cox fellaters will really be telling you its a coincidence that every project hes been involved in (b-but not deltatroon!!!!!) has been total garbage>yiik>nu pokemon>vivziepop homestuck>hiveswap>little town heroThe reverse midas, everything he touches turns to shit. What an absolute hack faggot
Toby is making a mistake by being his usual self.You people need to understand something.Toby is a nice guy that doesn't like confrontation. He's not going to tell these people the harsh truths, he's going to come up with comforting excuses and caveats to try to assuage people's anger even if it's totally unnecessary.Allow me to translate for Toby, his company, and his merch partners:WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE HISPANIC MARKET. WE WILL NOT SPEND A SINGLE DIME APPEALING TO THEM. WE HAVE TESTED SHIPPING IN SOUTH AMERICA AND YOU FAGGOTS STEAL EVERYTHING SO NOW YOU GET NOTHING. FUCK YOURSELVES WITH A HAMMER.
>>736022679Yiik is good and his song is one of the most mid things in that game Boen’s song is 1000x better
>>736018669>latinx>”people”
>>736022713toby making a statement in the first place, despite being known for his silence on any xitter drama, means he panicked
>>735994473I can forgive Toby Fox for this, but not the VA-11 HALL-A devs for not having a Spanish translation, when they are a bunch of Venezuelans
>>736022834someone should make a 'jak of that first homunculus
I just can't summon the energy to be furious about this. Don't fan translations exist for every game already?
>>735997181there's no way the people complaining about this aren't just 14 year olds and/or ragebait engagement farmers
>>736022969>And yet, he speaks Japaneselmao
>>736022969>i'm 14 and just saw this meme
>>736022969>Toby likes games>Japanese people make games he likes>Toby learns JapaneseWhy would he learn Spanish?
>>735999240>traduce lo juegowho even makes these
>>736004724this is exactly why "ellos" and other masculine pronouns are used as gender neutral for convenience. Native speakers know this.
>>735994473>deliveries in mestizoland regularly get stolen more than half the timebrown ""people"" genuinely, unironically live like this.
hate the drama or love the drama, you have to admit LATAM has given us some gems
>>736023554There's a gas leak on the planetErrybody dumb
>>736018307>in my culture we love family and food and we self deprecate about our inferiority to whites!
>>736007021Artists can do whatever the fuck they want with their art, specially when they're successful.
>>736007021>You're being disingenuous! You can't just translate a game only into languages you understand! Now excuse me while I pirate your game and play it exclusively in English, which I perfectly understand because my spic education forced me to learn fluent English just in case I ever jump the border
>>736023959Normal gamedevs would get cancelled so hard. Lucky for him.
>Noooooooo Toby please let me butcher your story with our own references, let us confirm Kris as nonbinary and also let us leak the game builds for 100$ as its worth millions of pesos in our third world country
>>736024197>make an actually good game that people like>you are un-cancellable no matter how many latinx teenagers you offendhas anyone else tried this?
Dont be transphobic, just support Toby localizing his game so that LATAM can enjoy it too. It's a win/win.
>>736014359Toby would be forced to add latinX into everything which would be retarded as that also annoy him but he doesnt want humans gendered in his games
>>736024197Such as?
>>735994864spic herei don't care about undertale or deltarune, games for faggots and weirdos, and just think this is funny
>>736024263I wish troons would cancel Toby so they stop wondering why there are transphobic Deltarune dans
>>736024263Well, isn't that interesting.
>>736024438Im polish, by this point anyone who doesnt understand english and western memes is a subhuman monkey
Why did Toby say fucking anything? Especially when he's known for staying silent half of the time?Worst case is he has minor bouts of sp*cs asking for a translation he can just ignore.What would have happened is that everyone forgets this when Chapter 5 comes out, never having to address the "issue".
>>736024263I'm enjoying anons breaking their brains as they try to figure out which side of this argument is the libtard one that they hate
>>736024263>localization professionals who study for years and perfect their craft constantly precisely to convey the authors' visions as precisely as possible
>>736024228Literally all this bullshit is just a problem gringos create in their own translations and heads, the most drama spanish speakers have is whether if spanish from Spain or spanish from Latin America is superior
>>736024819Fangamer and the Concert were getting targeted, so Toby was pressured to speak up and bring the attention to himself.
>>736024819Because Toby's the last saving throw every time Fangamer or Materia Collective annoy people. They send in Toby to give a non-answer to calm things down. Except its failed.
I'm BR and i find this drama great, BR's don't deserve anything and hopefully even less stuff get translated, go learn english you filthy monkeys.
>>736022713>>736022284>>736022834>Yanks thinking themselves as people based and worth of respect
>>736009041Can't Toby just give him notes?
I mean nothing is going to change because he isn’t going to learn Spanish because he is a weeb, the retards should be happy he is ok with the un official Spanish translation
>people are bringing back old drama tooHAHAHAHAHAHA SHOULDVE RELEASED THE NEWSLETTER, FAGGOT
>>736024825tbf even the libs are shitting on localizers on xitter, this isnt a good move by LATAMtheyve been getting by because the libtards cant actually argue with them without being branded a racistmoving the argument to localization in general? they dont stand a chance, especially with 8-4 (toby's publisher) being the ones who butchered nier automata
>>736025336so you can chimp out about how there's nothing to report that wouldn't spoil the chapter?
>>736025149>I'm BRSorry to hear that.
>>736025074>>736025082Meh, now I feel bad for him.
>>736025452Chapter 3+4 had newsletters even during the playtesting phase, and a whole ARG section. Nobody's predictions came true, and the only info anyone could've extracted was a hint on Chapter 4's egg.
>>736025559Eh, i count my blessings that at least i'm not indian.
>>736025074>>736025082>>736025607the symphony (who said toby is mostly uninvolved) was already doing this. toby's folly of responding to the drama was entirely his own doing.
Toby is a fangamer slave
>>736025665I was gonna say that's not any better, but I definitely would rather be Brazilian than Indian, so I CONCEDE and KNEEL.
>>736025624toby has deliberately hiding a bunch about chapter 5clearly he feels that damn near everything is important about it
...Another plane has hit the Toby Towers.
>>736018119>as twittards started to point out the deflowering thing too, and then he immediately patched it into a red pixelIt loops back to this. """artistic vision""" doesn't hold up after seeing how he handled that situation, and i'm glad people are bringing it up.
>>735994473How 'localized' are the fan translations?
>dios mio I know what will make senor toby do a spanish translation! I will call him a jew!
>>736025926stop browsing this thread tobygo finish your game
>No I will not translate to your spic language>No I will not send merch to your shithole countries you steal all the packages>No I will not do live concerts in your countries it's too dangerous and you're all too poorIndirectly based.
>>736026050>respondedYour narrative vision failed.
>>736026050the fans weren't ready for these truth nukes
>>736000879>spend money making an official translation>poor browns just pirate it anywayno clue.
>>736025209>brown thinks yank bothers us>brown who bends the knee to USA and learns his language, uses his sites, consumes his music, fast food slop, vidya, and social mediaheh
>>736000879One guy pit it best'Since latam doesn't have a Sakurai or Yoko Taro to impress he desn't even bother with it'
>>736000879Simple, Spanish is a gendered language so they can't do gender neutral shit with it without raping the language and opening another can of worms about cultural imperialism.
>>735994473I would agree if his works were the epitome of the English language, but that's not the case. Perhaps they are the epitome of the gringos, but there was a time when even gringos knew about literature. His games are so stupid that he was able to translate them into Japanese even though it's a language he learned, so anyone could do the job and they already have.
>>735998556It's almost like thats what hiring a translator to come consult with you is for?Literally just asking the translator who will know doubt speak english how we can get this as close to my vision as possible? Why are runefags so retarded along with their creator?
>>736026120thisi have never met a beaner that paid for his videogames, porn, anything.
>>736025851Wonder if Toby has something to hide if implied rape is going to far for the guy.
>>736026148>implying american products isn't multiculturalist garbage
>>736026209>people NEVER lie
>>735994473"Fangamer is very easy to work with and truly passionate about the things they make. I really trust them and would prefer to collaborate exclusively with them on merch"Translation: They're my buddies from back in the day and I'm not going to get such a favorable cut from any other merch vendor
colossal ammount of south american cope and hurt feelings in this thread.did they really not know that the reason they never get paid attention to is nobody fucken cares about them?
>>736026148>Yank thinks i use their overpriced brands and listen/watch their overhyped media
>>736026209>trannylators are ok now
>>736026209>i can trust some faggot because i paid him well
>>735994473It's amazing how Latin America went from a machismo culture inherited from Spain, to now just being America 2.0 without the economic powerhouse. You had reggaeton being about brotherhood, violence and female submission, to now being pop and bad bunny dressing like a woman. You now have a female president in Mexico where that would have been a shock and unheard of just 15 years ago. You now have SA nigs obsessively wanting a faggot game where in the past they obsessed about football, tekken, mk and shooting games. It's wild hose modernity (which is nothing but feminine) spreads like wildfire, I hears SEAnigs complaining about the same thing.
>>736026337Undertale was never going to fail. Toby was a plant from the start. He was in all the cabals. From artists to big name merch websites. It would've been a bigger shocker if it wasn't such a hit
>>736026346sure bro, sucks, guess canceling and ruining toby will have to do :^)
>>736026320>>736026320>>736026386What does this even mean? Are you seriously equating traditionalist brazillians against tranny americans who would feel even more apt to put tranny shit in already tranny game? The same kind of brazillion who would be way more incentivized to not fuck it up especially when they are being paid generously by Toby? Are you retarded?
>>736026537>ayayayaya amigo we will surely win against senor fox!
>>736000879You really don't get it, do you? The LATAMs either complain about localization in English or pirated the game already and applied translation patches. And Toby already made Fuck You money from Deltarune steam sales and merch. On top of that, not only would he have to spend time an enormous amount of time and energy learning spanish to placate his autism, time and energy that could be spent on the game which is already TAKING TOO LONG, but he'd need to find a team of spic translators that he can work with, communicate his vision to, and trust that they won't leak the game either for Twitter clout or because of a metaphorical (literal) gun to their head. And let's be honest with ourselves here and think about which continent is leaking the most videogames and anime early.
>Lack of news is so severe all Deltarune threads are going to be off-topic politicalslop about spics.Somehow this WAIT is worse than all other ones. We NEED news.
>>736026420>You now have a female president in Mexico where that would have been a shock and unheard of just 15 years ago.It only took over 30 assassinations of candidates more popular than the kike leader they "elected".
>>736026337it really is like that isnt itthis is why i wouldnt ever work in public relations, im too honest and hate bullshitters/liars
>>736026602>forced him to respond, kowtow, and kneelThey already did. He's getting torn apart on twitter.
>>736026351Your entire fucking country thinks Goku is the second coming of Jesus.
>>736026578>this says what i want it to say as closely as possible?>yes :) (lie)wow so hard to understand
>>736026602all previous drama is being brought up along with the weird omocat shit haha, lets put this to the test, shall we :^)
>>736026578Yeah bro cause Brazil is right-wing trad cath, SPECIALLY their fucking Undertale fandom.
>>736026672>meanwhile toby is drinking sake out of a japanese womans navel while surrounded with money normal (not south american) people threw out of him
>>736026726Toby Engine will protect him, hombre.
Toby? Robert F. Fox? Is that you?
>>736026626Ch3 predictions were only so bad because of how extensively it was previewed. Maybe it's for the best that ch5 is more under wraps.
>>736026760>people threw out of himWhat?
>>736026710>>736026752Legitimately schizophrenic to think that hiring a traditionalist brazilian who is from a shithole country, is somehow going to lie about translations when he is being paid a lot by some fag with a shitton of money compared to your tranny ilk. Dilate.
>>736014634you severely underestimate the horny. I masturbated while my mother was sleeping on the opposite side of the room once
>>736026924And so we circle back to>people NEVER lie
>>736026892sorry I'm a bit retarded and was too excited to shitpost. I'll slow it down from now own in this thread. I meant that he's rich and should not care about mexicans mad at him.
>>736026997Wut
>>736026998>I'll slow it down from now own in this threadI'm fucking with you, let us shitpost together.
>>736027052my man
>>736026420Are you even latino? Reggaeton isn't dead and people still playing the same games
>>736026819explain how the toby engine saves him herehis only shining light is if it turns into general localization discourse
>>736026819>Toby Engine will protect him, hombre.Warranty just ran out.
>>736027046people would neeeeeeeeeever lie if they're getting paid, riiiiiiiight? ;)that hasn't happened in the history of ever! ;)Actual children can figure this shit out and yet it somehow escapes you.
>>736027183Get back to work Toby.
>>736027183meds now
>>736027172they'll find a way... surely>>736027174no no no this can't be happening. HELP FANGAMER...HUSSIE....TEMMIE!!! ANYBODY!!!
>>736027172>>736027174Engine never fails. Simple as.Like you said, the discussion is pivoting to localization shit. We have libcucks shitting on localization as a whole on xitter right now, which is something unprecedented. ONLY possible because of the Toby Engine btw
>>736027261>>736027246>no rebuttalImplied concession.
It's actually a compliment for a tranny game like this to not be translated. The latin are lucky not experience underage pseudo dogshit for the underage.
>>736027246>>736027246>>736027261We accept your concession.
I guess people not from America have no idea why we despise South-Americans so much.If you've ever played an online videogame you've encountered them, and they are a scourge upon your communities. They ruin everything they touch and pirate and steal everything.
>>736026867I prefer those over these threads.
>Toby's vision>Japanese onlylmaohttps://youtu.be/c3F8kLoazGg
>i dont know the language bro, i would never sully my work by fucking up the lang->AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DONT BRING THAT UP NO NO NO
>>736026209>>736026924Two people who are closely working together in good faith can make mistakes, even without a language barrier, and the language barrier makes it impossible for both parties to have an equal understanding.They literally wrote a book about the process of localizing Undertale into Japanese, where Toby had provided extensive support and worked with them throughout the whole process, and that book STILL had mistakes and inaccuracies in it.It is genuinely baffling to me that ESLs who rely on translation for so much of their media seem to trust translators unconditionally and can't understand that even professional translators aren't 100% accurate. How are you less aware of the problems with localization than the gringos who only speak English?
>>736027583>knowing exactly two words means you know the entire languagemama mia
>Another trannyrune thread escaped the filtersdamn you gook moot
>>736027715>troonon insists on making a post in a thread he hatesgrim....
This is the first time anything related to Deltarune has been funny.
>>736024263This subhuman works for Yen Press by the way. They have repeatedly fucked up localizations.
we were btfo'd...
>>736027486You lose competitive games against people with worse hardware and internet than you, that's why you are so insecure. The NA CS exodus proved that americans are the biggest crybabies ever when things don't go their way.
>>736027780Doelester was kinda funny
>>736027673Hes fine with bastardizing it, though
>>736027583Why did he mix up the articles with the wrong gender? Is he stupid?A professional translator could have caught this mistakeThis is what underaged latin@s on Twitter actually believe
>>736027759>plays a tranny game>pretends he doesn't dilatewew lad
>>736027479The eternal seethe of latinx lefties towards the japs will never not be funnyhttps://youtu.be/LRnE9AJhMZk?si=5aFv9lxmRAwlTZcD
>>736020951actual professionalism would have ignored it and not replied at all, and it would blow over in a few daysit wasn't even a big "controversy" until toby spoke up, now there is no going back
>>736027878>you lose at the videogames you madesorry rodriguez too busy winning at the olympics and everything else like baseball and hockey and things that matter to whites.go ahead and play those mexican videogames and mexican social media app... oh wait there isn't any lol
>>735994473Undertale was never good anyways, Toby Fox is a hack developer that's only good at composing and it's perfectly reflected in his work. His games are fucking dogshit that get a pass from normie retards because they have reddit humor and good soundtracks.
>>736027998>I absolutely HATE this thread it should've been FILTERED but teehee I will post in it :3
>>736025427They are endlessly demonizing him persevering his vision too. Kinda saying the quiet part out loud
>>736028062I accept your concession
>>736025665You're alright BR anon
>>736026209>sucking off trannylators
>nooo please senor toby gib us official translation>no>aieeee just one fumo or concert senor tobiii!!>no>FUCKING YANK AY CARUMBA
I'd rather 500,000,000 spics than 1 jeet
>>736026924There is literally a trannylator further up who does that
>>736027172>explain how the toby engine saves him hereAnon you cant be canceled on twitter because of racism the only way for a person to really get cancelled on twitter would be if they found out hes a pedo or a scammer or someone who abuse his coworkers.
>>736027332Fuck it I'll take it if it means more localizers killing themselves
>>736007304He speaks Japanese like a retarded toddler
>>736026209Sorry, the baiting was fun and all but I will NOT defend trannylators and localizers, not even as a falseflag.PLEASE put a bullet through your skull, ASAP.
>>736027825Man this really is a big deal.
>>736028759gogo gaga susie-chan
>>736027332based toby engine
>>736024263>put in timely internet references like gamergate and sus in your "translations">"no im totally a professional who tries to convey the author's vision"
>>736028924>>put in timely internet references like gamergate and sus in your "translations"the base game literally has an among us reference
>>735994473Americucks bow to the third world
See this is why we hailt hitler/aryanne and the holy Celestia empire in the /mlp/ fandom and tell all the ziggers and troons to fuck off, and they get all hemorrhoid ass damaged about it.
>>736029034>third-world bows to the third-worldhuh?
Toby ''problematics medias'' the Fox
Toby ''SKIP'' the Fox
>>736029162We love the fact he loves lolis here.
>>736029162this falseflag doesnt work when hes legitimately getting criticized and agrees enough to respondsorry!
>>736029001I'm not talking about Deltarune, I'm talking about localizations of the past decade in general. Lots of shoehorned references to terms or memes only internetbrained people would understand.
>>736029242Your other thread get purged?
>>736029162>there's sooo much more so you'll have to watch a video to learn morePedro lost
>>736029162> shitting on andrew hussieMy nigga already got turned into Noelle Holiday by his best friend, couldn't wish a worse fate to my enemy.
>>735994864I'm an ESL (European) and I just don't understand how you can be over the age of 16 and not know English, aren't all these spics using the Internet and typing in English to complain anyway? Undertale came out when I was TWELVE and I played it in the original language.
>>736029162This kind of basedness is why I like this game
>>736029162>words words words words words watch this sloptuber's video on drama you don't care abouti really wish these faggots simply said "he's an asshole" and were done with it instead of spending 37 million paragraphs documenting this guy's entire life
>>736029727>do not substantiate your claims just mindlessly hate peoplelow IQ post
>>736019667i mean i don't hold any delusions that reading cervantes or goethe or homer in translation is an actual substitute for the real, intended artistic substance. i can (and do) enjoy them, but if you resurrected cervantes and asked him what he thought of the translations, he would probably be bitchy and not approve - but i'm still not going to learn spanishlikewise, i think the hues et al. should get over themselves and be content with the fact that they will never experience the video game as intended if they do not learn english (or japanese). this will naturally never happen because thirdie children are predestined to whine on the internet about stupid shit but a man can dream
I just like seeing Toby get pissed on. Bro has no guts.
>>736029809Are you looking at the image or just being a mindless parrot yourself?None of those accusations mean anything. They're not even things Toby did.
so can I complain about Mike now?
>>736029809More words does not make more substance
BR?BR?PINOY?GIB MONIHUEHUEHUEHUEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3n_NsvGZSg
>>736026420You obviously don't know shit about latin america lmao, we always had a lot of faggotry, actually a lot of homophobia is just a front to hide the fact you suck and serve to your friends when your wives aren't looking
>>736029905You're still retards, so no.
>>736029905No amount of fuckup on Toby's part will make it okay to whine about not being rewarded for blowing a couple lines so far out of proportion
>>736029905>so can I complain about Mike now?Chapter 3 was a filler chapter why the fuck would you complain about mike ?
>>735994473More languages means more time between chapter releases. Fuck off.
>>736029905Let's complain about the Toriel and Sans scene again instead
>>736014313Being progressive and racist arent mutually exclusive
>>736029975>>736029983see y'all when gaster isn't real>>736030083chapter 2 was more filler than 3
>>736030121why not complain about John bishop's absence?
Racism is normal everyone hates chuds
>>736029304I didn't make any threads schizo-kun. Toby being a lolicon is based.
>>736030278outside of twitter everyone is racist towards something, nobody cares, but chuds want to make it their personality.
>>736030434>Toby being a loliconWhat level of headcanon are we at here
He just doesn't wanna do gendered languages because of his precious nonbys and if he tries using neutral ones like "Latinx" it'll piss the speakers even more. He's just taking the safe route because he's a coward who scared of any controversy.
>>736029905Always could, this has nothing to do with it.
>>736030476He loves dodging bullets from a loli.
>>736030180See, unlike you I haven't come up with an arbitrary specific way Gaster has to be involved in the story otherwise he "isn't real".
>>736030460Yeah, outside of twitter everyone is racist to chuds
>>736030564what
>>735995213I mean he still does, it's the whole reason the MC doesn't have a gender, if a language uses pronouns he refuses to translate in that language
>>736030570toby will be flinched alive if he doesn't lean into the most mainstream ideas about Gaster
>>736015682Based as fuck! We shouldn't enshittify Japan like we did to the rest of the world.
>>736014313You can get jailed in Brazil for up to 15 year for being le racist.
>but spanish are use gendersyes it use genders but people understand is not a She or He when you said EL robot, is just a robot, La roca is just a rock.
>>736030642It's real, he LOVES lolis.
Latinx demand fucking everything and yet I've never seen a compelling reason for why they deserve a single god damned thing.
>>736029575It's a persecution complex, literally fucking no one gets translations but latinaoex live in third world shitholes so every tiny slight is part of the problem.
>>736030917It will make no differenceThere are already english deltarune fans citing sentences with third person pronouns as proof someone's pronouns are officially they/them.
When I was told that latam people are super entitled and by far the worst group of people you meet online, I didn't believe that until recently. Saw them trashing on artist for commission prices, they pirate games the most, sperg out when things don't cater to them, and so much more. This toby fox shit really makes it eye opening why Spanish entitlement is thing.
You should have kept the flower Tobert, but to be honest it would be really funny if people start to bring that up for their arguments
>>736031092wow....I am speechless
>>736030564>Ran>Loli
They teach english at schools for fuck sake why is it so hard for people to not accept that undertale and deltarune are going to be english and jap only.
>French don't complain that they don't get an official translation.>Russians don't complain that they don't get an official translation.>Indians don't complain that they don't get an official translation.>Chinese don't complain that they don't get an official translation.>Etc., etc., etc.,Why the fuck do spics think they're special?
The problem isn't the fact that it's not in spanish, it's the fact the only other language available is Japanese.
>>736031640>spics demand white people's shit for freeno shit?
>>736031228Toby is a weirdo lmao.
>>736031674>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TRANSLATE IN A LANGUAGE YOU KNOW BECAUSE... YOU JUST CAN'T OK????
>>736030564toby is a based shotalolicon enjoy????
>>736031134Piracy was pretty much a necessity because online pay methods were lacking, nowadays is more easy to buy games, but still we love to pirate shitThat's why i'm also doubting the concert thing, like it's is popular, but being popular =/= pay for the thing
>>736031640>Merch is produced in spicland>Import it to USA & Europe>Sell it back to brownies at 4x the price>Why are brownies mad??????This is such a jew tactic that im surprised half the board still support toby and fangamer
>>735994473Why don't browns just learn english?
>>736031834enjoyer*>>736030476not even a headcanon
>>736029809Yes, because in order to understand why Toby shouldn't be associated with Andrew Hussie, I need to spend the next three weeks reading up on Andrew Hussie's entire life, watching endless amounts of dramatubers piss and bemoan every little thing he did, instead of the very simple and straightforward response of "Andrew Hussie was an asshole, and Toby doesn't seem like the guy to like assholes".I'm glad you're enough of a retard to think that yourself, though. It gives the thread more people to laugh at.
>>736031834Yes.
>>736004613There's a reason all latinx "non-binaries" have to make their social media accounts in English.
>>736031861>NO ESE WE MAKE THE TOYS NOT LOS CHINA
>>735994864>>735995718>>735997181>>735997319Please stop using hurtful words, we are Latinx.
>>736000879Two reasons:>He's autistic and demands to be directly involved to ensure the translation "matches his vision".>It would delay the game even further.
>>736031839help me out hereToby's merch partner says their shipping attempts to south america have a greater than 50% "not delivered" rateIs package theft actually that rampant or are people just claiming shit didn't arrive so they get a refund
gem
>Toby FOX>is a dogHuh??
Toby Fox is the living example of jewish subversion infecting Japan.
>>735994864Based. Chaos chaos. Drama is fun to observe.
>>736032159>not nuclear
>>736031979anon you are having a stroke. Try not to bankrupt yourself when checking in at the hospital
>>736032089oh that one i have no idea since i'm a poorfag, maybe someone else knows, i could say maybe they don't propely take care of the packages at least where i live
>>736032221toys come from china not mexico
What are your thoughts on Spain?
>>736029162>guilty by assocationretarded ESL
>>736000879>>736031996The idea that they would make back the costs of localizing is unfounded, games sell so poorly outside the US/Jap regions that Europe had to force Multi5 on people.The only reason that matters is "I don't want to." Toby doesn't owe anyone anything. It's his game. If he wanted to revoke everyone's licenses tomorrow and delete everything he could and your only recourse would be crying about it.
>>736026249Tony fox raped Andrew hussie on the sizzling hot summer of 2009.And since noelle is actually hussie he had to include it
>>736031996This drama is a losing battle no matter what happens.>Toby doesn't translate, which prevents delays but makes every single LATAM hate the guy so much he might as well never step foot in the country or instantly be beheaded by a cartel>Toby does translate, delaying Chapter 5 further than it already has been and forcing every other Chapter to not receive updates until then, plus it has to be perfect or else people will wonder why Kris is constantly being referred to as FRIEND, why Kris isn't nonbinary, why jokes aren't landing, etc. etc. etc.However, it's very funny to watch the libs finally put some hate towards localizers. Total localizer death.
>>736032356is this true?
>>736029162You will never be able to turn me against Omocat, Pablo.
>>736032280Yawn
>>735994473He bragged too much about being hyperautistic about the japanese translations, now he has to learn every language his fans demand he translates the game to or risk revealing that he's just a weeaboo. As if he hadn't already.
>>735998621You have no idea how much the slightest altercation has an impact on the overall story or perception of something. And that's not limited to just video games
>>736032118It's weird seeing the culture war evolve in such a way that leftists hate jews now.
>>736032424That's a shirt.
>>736032424yeah not mexico like I said
>>736032309>The only reason that matters is "I don't want to." Toby doesn't owe anyone anything.Thank you, god damn. In latin america if you don't speak at least basic english you're considered a retard, and you don't need to be Shakespeare to understand the fucking game. Leftist entitlement mind raped latin america.
>>736022969>And yet, he speaks Japanese.
all the latinx shit is a jab at them, right? we don't have legit leftie language-rapers here do we?
>>736032458Erm we don't hate "jews" chud we hate zionists
Latinx won
>>736003807You are both correct and retarded
>>736032529It was unironic at first but it's basically a normie-acceptable slur now
>>736030476>he doesn't knoweven to this day toby fags prove to be absolutely delusional. Next you are going to say he isn't a furry
>>736032529What's wrong with latinx?
>>736004502You know I really wish Toby never went with the they them ambiguous gender thing (insert YOU the player) even with undertale because of the 2016 sjw brainwashing in America people believe in the concept of multiple genders and transgenderism and just all this mess. He should have given Chara Frisk and Chris all their own established sex that would cut down all the negative Drama by like 90%
>>736032529It offends them more than "spic" ever will.
>>736032356Reminder
>>736032685AND TOBY RAPED HIM WOAH BUDDY
I'm a 'tinx but i don't even care about translations, if you engage in anything related to toby fox you should know english>muh cultural phenomenon shut the fuck upThat being said, it's really pathetic to see Toby, scared of conflict as he is, backing himself into a corner by catering to his nihon masters rather than his spanish-speaking audience, which, besides english, has probably one of the largest speaker-to-fan ratiosI'd respect him much more if he just had the balls to say he doesn't want to do it like >>736032309 says, it's quite literally the only valid reason for not doing so
>>736032658spanish neutral is male pronouns, latinx can't even fucking be used in a conversation.
>>736032676Why do they report me for saying spic then?
>>736032685careful there anon, i can see the noelle pussy in this one
>>736032754>Toby, scared of conflict as he isMaybe the real reason spics hate him is because he has no spine while they're very confrontational.
>>736032814spic is offensive as well, but not to the level of cultural erasure that "latinx" is.Call them beaners they'll call you burger, call them spics they'll call you gringo, call them latinx expect to get murdered if you go near mexico.
>>736032890*hussie
>>736032890no you cant
>>736032685>Remember the doelester thread that's still up.>Kris likely has some qualities of Toby Fox (religious, female bully, etc.) and likely a partial self-insert.>Byron Hussie was the inspiration for Dess per this post.Byron did WHAT to Toby in that basement????
>>736024263Fucking hilariousThe left eat their ownHonestly I respect the BRs who have the balls to talk smack to that guy's obsessed fans/defenders.
>>736032529I've spoken to real life Mexicans. They laugh at "beaner", roll their eyes at "wetback", they make illegal immigrant jokes amongst themselves. Call them Latinx though, and they start foaming at the fucking mouth, they get so angry. I kept calling one guy a Latinx and he said "just call me a fucking spic, dude, please".
>>736032975This is some 4chan delusion
>>736033359Please fly yourself to mexico and start calling people latinx there. Stream yourself doing it. It will be really, really funny.
>>736033086Toby is the most molested character of all time.
>>736033167I live in Florida and a lot of the Mexicans and Cubans here make meth-toothed hillbillies look like dangerhair progressives. They're not even hispanic-supremacist, they're fucking white supremacist.Equally baffling to me is how anti-communism the established Cuban families are when they fled Batista and not Castro.This drama is forced af
>>736033359retard
>>736033425Okay but you go to California and do it calling them spics and beaners first >Mexican trying to erase the slurs that actually describe his race It's obvious to us spic bean
>>736013115Noelle rape scene (for real this time) cumming soon.
>please call us latinx instead of beanerI'll call you both, you latinx beaner spics. You ruined 4chan.
>>736033446Yes. Latinos that live in the US are like that. Actual latin america is leftie and entitled as fuck.
>>736032663All he had to do was pull an Undertale Yellow and say "these particular characters will be referred to by [insert gender here] in the story, but you're free to interpret them however you wish" and we would've been golden.They ALREADY do this with Kris anyway that the majority see him as a boy underneath all the performative they/themming, so many snowflakes subscribe to nonbinary transmasc Kris as a roundabout way to say "I think Kris is a boy" but they can't just get to the simple answer sooner because of the sheer FAGGOTRY surrounding everything.
he doesn't believe his own message, incredible.
I hope this is the start of the fanbase calling each other racists, funniest shit everIt's crazy how these people eat each other alive just to show who is more ''woke''
>>736033650KEK
>>736033701>za fanbasebut /v/ called this game reddit for years now
Hopefully this shows people just how subhuman spics can be.
>>736033638>Kris is a boy>[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30]
>>736033829Again, performative bullshit. The point is the majority see Kris as a boy based on their headcanons and self-insert fantasies. Some can get to that statement faster than others (like us on /v/) while others have to justify that opinion by dressing it up in wokeness (Twitter, Reddit, Tumblr, Bluesky, Discord servers, etc.) before it can be presented.
>>736033795not here obviously, we already knew this would happen, but it's wild seeing the twitter reaction unironically calling toby racist, his own fanbase
>>736033954I just think that wiki image is really funny
>>736033638>do was pull an Undertale Yellow and say "these particular characters will be referred to by [insert gender here]But that shitty fangame literally doesn't do that? They only said Clover's gender was up to interpretation in their Tumblr but otherwise it's just like the actual games.
>>736033956Why would they call themselves racist then
>>736033810Jeet post
>>736033829Kris played with the King as kid when xe could have played with the Queen, suspicious YUP YUP
>>736033998>But it doesn't do that? They [do actually do that]Just because it's not in the game itself doesn't mean it's non-applicable. It'd be weird if there was a disclaimer at the start of the game regarding that, so they correctly identified it should be a detail that should be answered outside of the game.
>>736029162They sound pretty based to me.
>>736034015Because the Eng part of the fandom understands why Toby can't translate so the spanish fandom are insulting the English part of the fandom for defending TobyLegitimate circus
>>736033998>>736034063doesn't matter where it was said, the fact that it was said at all already prevents people from lynching you if you call clover a hesomething tobias should have done instead of remaining silent which allowed the NB mind virus to fester
>>736029162Funny thing is, most of the people who were originally pushing this and subscribing to it WERE the spics and BRs. They were unironically so mad that no one bought their bait that they had to invent a brand new one.
>>736034063Yellow still has they/them characters that they didn't say it was up to interpretation, not to forget they directly donated to trannies, too.
>>736034280>YE-YEAH, BUT-Moving the goalpost already, sweetie? We're talking about the human characters here.
>>736034280>not to forget they directly donated to trannies, too.That has nothing to do with the topic.Also you're a faggot.
>>736034694Just saying they aren't the based devs you furries shill them as. They're cringier than Toby.
MEXICO ES BLAANCO
>>736034743los negro....
>>736034634You said characters in general, so no. You lost.
>>736033638Kris is much less nonbinary coded than FriskI don't think i've ever seen any fanart or interpretation of HIM as anything other than a guy, or at most a guy going by they/them
