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Whats the excuse for this?
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>>736007024
Everyone wishes they were a crab
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>>736007024
Blame the balance fags over at the pvp section.
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Big Boss was right.
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>>736007024
shit hurts bro
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Separation of gameplay and narrative. If stats in Pokemon accurately reflected the lore it would savagely curtail usability of the roster.
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how does anyone find anything after genwun endearing past a handful of mons?
new designs are so fucking busy, generic looking, and souless
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GIANT ENEMY CRAB
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>Carcinisation
>"the many attempts of Nature to evolve a crab"
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It doesn't really matter if one pokemon has one stat higher than another pokemon. If Kingler is set to only use attacking moves, its likely dying in two turns. If it wants to set up, it will only get to attack once. Electrode is one of the fastest pokemon in the game, but that doesn't mean it's anywhere close to good.
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>>736007220
Santa claus crab
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>>736007024
Crabs are the pinnacle of animal evolution. The perfect lifeform.
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Crab is the pinnacle of evolution. In fact, crab is so good that many non-crabs tried to (and continue to try to) evolve into crabs.

The bad news is that we do not have the genetic makeup to evolve into crab.
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>>736007308
>>736007315
Thats wrong. Spiders are supposed to be the pinnacle of evolution, they do what crabs do but even better, plus they have poison and can generate web
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>>736007358
>die to boot
Fucking idiot "peak" evolution
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>>736007358
the biggest spider is like the size of a regular ass beach crab
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>>736007194
Copout retarded reply
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>>736007308
macro evolution doesn't exist
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>>736007414
If we are talking about size then sperm whales are the pinnacle of evolution
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>>736007423
Not really. Vikavolt is said to zip around at high speeds but it's one of the slowest fully evolved pokemon. Miltank is about as fast as Pidgeot who is said to fly at mach 2.
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>Kingler
>Crawdaunt
>Crabominable
>Crustle
>Klawf
>Clawitzer
IT IS NOW
TIME FOR CRAB
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>>736007443
I was comparing spiders to crabs. Spiders are usually quite small, but crabs can get pretty damn big.
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>>736007450
Yes, thats why GF is retarded and so are you for defending it. Keep up
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>>736007308
For me it's these madlads
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>>736007463
Clawitzer is not a crab.
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>>736007478
Size doesnt mean much. Its what they can do that matters
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>>736007358
Can't live in water though
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>>736007429
Retarded christcuck detected
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>>736007510
Neither is Crawdaunt. Crustaceans are honorary crabs.
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>>736007308
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>>736007534
Diving bell spiders
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>>736007556
H-he's just helping the turtle to the water, r-right?...
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>>736007556
shit
i hate to remember how pretty much everything gets slowly and painfully eaten alive in the wild
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>>736007024
OG animalistic pokemons are better in every way
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>>736007537
>my grandpa was a randomly generated fish
Maybe evolve past being a faggot
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>>736007556
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>>736007648
Now, you say that you only prefer animalistic pokemon, but there are a ton of later pokemon that are basically just regular animals that you people claim to hate anyway. Just say what you really mean.
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Did someone say peak of evolution?
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>>736007498
YEEEEEEEE, HAW!
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>>736007556
>Don't mind me, just pirating this turtle...
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>>736007024
Those numbers dont represent actual stats though, it is only growth potential.
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>>736007713
It's okay when generation one does it.
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>>736007662
>retard has no idea what he's talking about
Many such cases, you should kill yourself and never open your retarded mouth again.
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>>736007308
it's just hands man, hands are OP, why kill prey when you can just hold it
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>>736007713
nta, the art changed for the worse
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>>736007648
Ah yes, those OG animalistic pokémon...
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>>736007840
Yes that looks like your mum. Problem?
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>>736007840
jynx and mister mime should have had trade evos
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>>736007798
>no refutation
strawmanning is evidence of low iq
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>>736007781
to be fair, turtles lay a ton of eggs so it's not like there aren't more
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>>736007864
insults are not strawmen
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>>736007024
I mean you wanna fuck with a crab that big?
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>>736007853
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>>736007785
Yeah but Eternatus isn't even a physical attacker, so comparing it to Krabby is just disingenuous faggotry.
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>>736007840
seems legit to me
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>>736007024
>Pistol Shrimp
>Pistol shrimp generate cavitation bubbles with acoustic pressures of approximately 12 psi (80 kilopascals) at a distance of 4 cm from their claw. The high-velocity, snap-induced jet creates a cavitation bubble that collapses to produce extreme heat (over 4,000°C) which is hotter than the surface of the sun
Don't shit on Kingler. He's also a pig-sized crustacean which is literally as impossible as creation gods IRL
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>>736007169
>>736007024
Lore > balance
There. I said the obvious.
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>>736007853
I'm convinced Jynx would have progressed with Electabuzz and Magmar if it didn't have the controversy. I'm surprised they even still include it in some of the newer games since they've started cutting stuff.
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>>736007895
falacy falacy
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>>736007916
Its special atk is still lower than a spooky coral. LMAO
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>>736007853
And what would be Jynx's evolution, Aunt Jemima?
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>>736007358
>Spiders are supposed to be the pinnacle of evolution
You could argue turning into a spider is a form of carcinization. The idea the round, 8-10 leg form is superior for locomotion in 3 dimensions
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>>736007736
>something indigenous Australians already knew
wow they're so smart wowwow
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>>736008041
Crabs walk sideways though, spiders can traverse omnidirectionally
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>>736008061
Actually most of them have an extremely low iq
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>>736008023
>And what would be Jynx's evolution
You're right, I can't think of a single pokemon that looks completely different from its evolution.
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>>736007194
Legendaries are banned to begin with so why not?
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>>736008023
That creepy thing from the Moomins
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>>736008267
Are you telling me you don't want to see 100 mirror matches of Mewtwo, Kyogre, Xerneas, Miraidon, Zacian, and Rayquaza?
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>>736007024
Ash's only sweeper was the crab.
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>>736008020
>one of the few good nu mon designs
>make it a slow and frail wall breaker
>worse than its preevo due to eviolite
Fucking game freak SLOW FRAIL WALL BREAKERS WILL NEVER BE GOOD STOP MAKING THEM AHHHHH
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>>736008336
They could have made it so legendaries took up more pokemon slots to make for making them that much stronger
Then it'd be like do you want to have half a team full of legendaries or the a full team of plebs
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>>736007953
crabs are peak evolution though
they should have higher BST
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>>736008590
yeah I'm so glad that Eviolite cancer won't make it into Pokemon Champions
finally justice for my nigga Dusknoir
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>>736008676
Dusknoir looks like ass man, why would you want that?
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>>736007308
I hate this stupid fucking brainless meme. I don't know why retards keep posting it. it's been years.
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>>736008590
Just put an AV and invest in bulk bro
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>>736007736
who is introducing the platypus to new places?
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>>736007308
>>736007358
>>736008041
I think there are more beetles than any other life form on land.

So yeah, perfect life forms are crab or beetle.
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>>736008794
Sadly the issue isn't really in Special Bulk, moreso the fact Turtwig takes physical hits better.
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>>736007194
Like 90% of the roster is already unusable. Nobody's rocking up with a Castform.
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>>736007308
evolution is just a theory
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>>736007024
peench
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>>736007024
It's a video game for children. The same reason why the hero of one nation is weaker than random thugs and city guards in later area.
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>>736008325
Wait isn't Jynx already based on that? The coincidence is too big
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Groke
>The Groke is a melancholic and lonely character.[2] She appears as a big dark sheet ghost with a big nose, who passively freezes everything around her.
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>>736007308
>Atheist: "We all actually came from monkeys!"
>Me: Then why are there still monkeys?
>Atheist: "O-Oh, uhh, those ones didn't evolve!"
>Me: Yeah okay, then where are all our other ancestors? The supposed dozens of steps between apes and us?
>Why did every single one of those evolve into us, but it was just those monkeys that didn't evolve?
>Atheist: "W-Wait, this isn't fair! Oh no, Charles Darwin's lies didn't prepare me for this!"
Evolution is so fucking stupid it's unreal.
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>>736009387
>Yeah okay, then where are all our other ancestors? The supposed dozens of steps between apes and us?
*points at niggers*
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>>736007934
>water mon is factually hotter than magcargo
heh
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>>736009005
Then just have vgc cat on your team at all times
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>>736007498
I've I was a sea creature I'd devoted my life to killing every disgusting eel
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>>736008676
>yeah I'm so glad that Eviolite cancer won't make it into Pokemon Champions
How do you mean, can't you use pokemon from your own games?
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I thought legendaries are banned from anything competitive
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>>736009459
We humans are all the same species, anon. Just kinda ignore the fact that there are several different species of tigers that all look basically the same, heh...
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>>736009702
It depends on the usage tier for Smogon and depends on the regulation for cart. Some regulations ban legendaries, some restrict them to certain ones or a given amount, and some allow them in full.
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>>736009702
Most of them are. All the box legendaries + mewtwo, except for suicune, are usually banned. Mythicals have always been banned because they are locked behind times events. The rest of the legendaries like the birds, the beasts, regis, etc have always been legal.
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>>736009459
Racism isnt that funny anymore
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>>736008676
In an interview the producer of the game already said that Clefairy and P2, as well as more items, would be added later and the only reason they were left out of the initial release was to keep it simple for new players. Clefairy wasn't even in base SV either and was in the DLC so no Clefairy at launch isn't exactly new.
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>>736009863
>the only reason they were left out of the initial release was to keep it simple for new players
That's just a fancy way of saying "we weren't able to get them all programmed in on time".
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>>736008676
Dusknoir sucks ass people won’t use it even without eviolite and they already said they’ll add it eventually lol
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>>736007024
>Whats the excuse for this?
seniority
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>>736009387
>Yeah okay, then where are all our other ancestors? The supposed dozens of steps between apes and us?
You know that at some point in history "humans" (apes already walking upright) were borderline on the brink of extinction, right?
Also, apes didn't start evolving into humans all over the world, but only in a very, very localized region.
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>>736009690
There will be next to no unevolved Pokemon in Champions at the start. You get Pikachu and I think that's it. Something about trying not to confuse first time players about what Pokemon are good under normal circumstances.
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>>736010173
It's also so the initial pool for the "recruit a Pokemon" gacha isn't bloated with even more worthless trash mons than it already is. They want early adopters who aren't just transferring in their HOME spplies to have an actual chance to build up stock and survive before the meta consolidates into the usual boring slop.
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The meatsweats will still be the ones dominating the game even with a limited pool of pokemon and no items.
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>>736007024
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The problem with Pokémon are levels.
A shitmon can beat a broken pokemon if the level difference is high enough.
Like, look at Pikachu. It has very low stats but how come it can fight stuff above its weight class, like legendaries?
That shouldn't be fucking possible.
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>>736010569
I've always assumed stats were more about actual skill instead of power. That's why I don't think of the speed stat in the way you'd typically think of it. I think speed is more about a pokemon's reaction time, as opposed to how physically fast it actually is. Maybe Vikavolt is just stupid, so it's psyically fast but it has slow reaction time.

Also in the anime, Pikachu got bodied by a level 5 Snivy as soon as they got to Unova.
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>>736010461
Let me know how much those stats actually help you when the battle starts.
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>>736010874
>Koffing enters the chat
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>>736010569
The problem with Pokémon are cunny.
A hebe can beat a broken ojisan if the cunny difference is high enough.
Like, look at Marnie. She has very low stats but how come she can fight stuff above her weight class, like ugly bastards?
That shouldn't be fucking possible.
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>>736007556
SNIPPED
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>>736007358
Spiders are completely mogged by dragonflies. They are the most efficient predator on the planet as an adult and they're way cooler.
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>>736009387
This has to be bait.
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>>736009387
>We all actually came from monkeys
Makes sense you'd find an inconsistency when you start off with an incorrect premise. We didn't evolve from monkeys. We evolved from a monkey-like common ancestor that we share with monkeys.
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>>736010569
>how come it can fight stuff above its weight class, like legendaries?
"Little guy beats giant monster through training and determination" is the basis for nearly all human fiction.
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>>736010874
252+ Atk Choice Band Slaking Giga Impact vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Arceus: 403-475 (93.5 - 110.2%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Slaking Giga Impact vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Arceus on a critical hit: 604-712 (140.1 - 165.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Slaking on a critical hit: 204-240 (46.2 - 54.4%) -- 55.5% chance to 2HKO
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snibbety snab
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>>736009054
90% is better than 99%
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>>736011628
Also, environmental specialties. Some regions were better suited to the ancestors who led to the monkeys and apes we see today, some regions were better suited towards the ancestors who led to humanity proper.
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>>736008325
Brilliant.
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>>736010815
>Maybe Vikavolt is just stupid, so it's psyically fast but it has slow reaction time
vikavolt being slow is a reference. vic viper is a slow ship until you get upgrades progressing through the level. the last move vikavolt learns is agility
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>>736009387
>where muh missing link
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ICv6GLwt1gM
Of course the ones we found aren't called "missing" anymore.
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>>736007308
>Albert Wesker smacking crab tank
>THE PERFECT LIFEFORM
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>>736007024
Mess with the crab, get the snibedi snab
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>>736007308
If crabs are so great then why are they defenceless against ants?
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>>736011390
Dragonflies are the incels of the animal kingdom
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>>736007024
No gods, only Crab
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>>736007024
There's only one god in pokemon, and after I use him to glitch out maximum Master Balls there's no pokemon that can stand before me.
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>>736007024
Krabby, Kingler, Clauncher, Clawitzer and Corphish are my favorite pokemon. Never liked Crawdaunt, though.
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>>736012095
>Never liked Crawdaunt
It's because of the dark typing isn't? You racist
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I heard youre talking shit about crabs
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>>736009459
Out of Africa's never made sense to me. Central Africa has 160,000 years of head start in development.
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>>736011693
she cute
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>>736007220
Attack its WEAK point
For massive damage
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>>736012241
>Central Africa has 160,000 years of head start in development
But the resources are shit
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>>736011693
Gets mogged hard by scolipede
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>>736011778
>posts a clip from a children's cartoon
>"Heh, slam dunk. Another win for science."
That's not the "epic win" you think it is.
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>>736009387
No one is replying to you with the truth. We evolved from a specific selection of apes focused around Ethiopia, only it wasn't natural; it was a forced evolution (called uplifting). Our intelligence was bestowed upon us by extraterrestrials; actually, the entire planet itself was seeded by aliens billions of years ago, too. Aliens engineered the mitochondria in our cells to bond with other microorganisms, enabling multicellular lifeforms.
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>>736012241
Evolution is usually the result of environmental pressures. If they reached their final form where they were living, there was no pressure for them to evolve any further. Their dark skin also protected them from the sun. When different groups of humans moved north and in to Europe, they had to not only contend with harsher conditions, but also learn how to develop ways to store food and build shelters. Africans never really had to do that. So while the travelers lost their melanin, they also learned agriculture and shelter building, while africans didn't. This also required evolving higher IQ.

There is no end goal for evolution. Out of Africa makes sense when you realize that the people who left Africa had to actually develop intelligence and skill. Even if you do believe that we are all one species, we are very much not all the same. Africans stopped evolving because they didn't have to evolve anymore to survive where they were living, which is why they would have been better off just staying there.
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>>736012507
>humans moved north and in to Europe, they had to not only contend with harsher conditions
OH THE HUMANITY, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO FUCKING AFRICA, THIS LAND IS TOO CRUEL
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>>736012419
Yes, yes. And they also taught us how to build pyramids because 'big base that becomes smaller as you go up' is such a complex concept our minds couldn't understand it even though we were surrounded by mountains since the moment we were born.
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>>736007423
You say that but short of some FPS games they all follow that rule and then some.
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>>736007308
>evolution keeps turning animals into crabs! Isnt science so heckin' quirky?!
>look inside
>all false crabs are from one group of shrimps that split off from real crabs
I hate internet science so fucking much
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>>736012572
It doesn't snow in central africa, so they never learned how to prepare for the future, and there was no shortage of animals to hunt there at all times of year.
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>>736012615
More than just Pyramids, the Ancient Egyptians were taught how to harness electricity, but the knowledge was lost
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>>736007556
The cycle of life can be cruel.
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>>736007024
Crabs are cool, the faggots on the left are lame. Simple as.
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>>736012684
Blame reddit. They popularize stuff because it's le quirky bacon narwhal joke that's partially based in actual science, and the users there keep telling these sorts of jokes over and over, that the people who see it and don't understand the reality of it. Those niggers still spread the myth that baby rattlesnakes are more venomous because they don't know how to control their venom, which is absolutely false.
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>>736008998
Heracross is so good, I love this nigga like you wouldn't believe
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>>736007959
>>736008023
There's a cute mega where she becomes an angry opera singer
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>>736012853
>she
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>>736012950
Yes, Jynx is a female-only species.
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>>736012419
>aliens
Time-travelling humans from the future but close enough
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>>736013081
>Human evolution is just one big bootstrap paradox ouroborous
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>hasn't changed in 60 million years
crocs truly are the world's greatest animal
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>>736013372
That's genuinely scary.
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>>736012507
>le Africa had food all year around that they could just pick up meme
Piss off
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>>736013449
They do if they're smart about it.
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>>736013241
A bootstrap paradox is only a paradox to beings that exist on the arrow of time. There is no law of the universe that says information must have a point of creation, and time as a dimension exists all at once, which can be manipulated like any other. Once a species invents that technology, going back in time to ensure your kinds' survival becomes inevitable.
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>>736012167
Hard to say. Crawdaunt looks... I don't wanna say busy, but too tall and aggressive. That isn't inherently bad, but I like Corphish because of how goofy and huggable he looks.
The evolution tries to be more menacing, and the permanent death stare accomplishes that, but it's still using that ridiculous body as the base. The color scheme also doesn't do anything for me.
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>>736013542
Yes sure that's the issue, they weren't smart enough to pick up the food that was somehow magically available to them all year. In the rest of the world plants follow season and harvest has to ripen before it can be taken, except for Africa where everything is just ripe 24/7 365 days of the year
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>>736013695
You really are a retarded faggot it seems. There are tons of animals in Africa. Why do you magically think that there were just fruits and vegetables all over the ground for them to pick up? Or like rotisserie chicken and cheeze nips?How did you reach that conclusion?

They lived there for hundreds of thousands of years just fine before white people kidnapped them, my point was that they would be better off if they just stayed there.
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>>736013875
>Why do you magically think that there were just fruits and vegetables all over the ground for them to pick up?
Because that's the talking about that people like >>736012241
and other brain rotten /pol/sters build their entire arguments around. You can even see that shit here >>736012507
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>>736013934
So your suggestion is that out of africa makes no sense because all humans should be equally evolved all over the world despite having spent hundreds of thousands of years apart.

That's your magical conclusion about why out of africa is bullshit?
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>>736014081
No I'm saying that people who go
>Humans have been in Africa for so long, they should have had a heart start in everything
Are full of horeshit
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>>736014184
>they should have had a heart start in everything
That way my entire point. I said that evolution has no end goal, and if a population has no incentive to adapt, they simply wont. Being intelligent and sapient is not the end all be all of evolution, otherwise Antelope would have been building rocket ships long before we did.
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>>736007864
You don't know what a strawman is, even after doing it yourself with the "my grandpa is a randomly generated fish" comment. Smartest christian award
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>>736007736
Fun Fact
the venomous spurs are not something weirdly unique that the platypus evolved, it's something most mammals had during the jurassic and cretaceous

they're the only mammals left that retained this trait, but during the height of the dinosaur, your average mammal was venomous
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>>736013695
>In the rest of the world plants follow season and harvest has to ripen before it can be taken, except for Africa where everything is just ripe 24/7 365 days of the year
Could you give an actual argument or a source for your outlandish claim that parts of africa aren't exceptionally fertile?
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>>736007024
peench u
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>>736013934
>people like >>736012241(me)
I just don't understand. I'm even not making an argument. I just don't get how in that unimaginably massive breadth of time there's only Great Zimbabwe for sub-Saharan Africa while North Africa has Mali, Egypt, Kush and Carthage.
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>>736013372
crocs have undergone a lot of changes in 60 million years, there were tons of unique crocodilians including fully aquatic ones (whales drove them to extinction) fully terrestrial ones (caniformes drove them to extinction) and even arboreal ones (rodents did those in)

the reason crocodiles look like they didn't change is because all the ones that did change got extincted by mammals and the only ones left are the ones that look the least changed
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>an easy landscape where food can just be picked off the ground without effort according to /v/
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>>736014665
The only retard in this thread who said that is the guy who doesn't have the reading comprehension to understand that's not what was being claimed.

But sure, go off about how god created humans 6000 years ago.
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>>736014665
humans lived here though. it's not my fault that you or I don't know all the answers to how.
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>>736007024
He’s also the perfect HM slut
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>>736007024
its humor. something you zoomers dont understand
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>>736014492
Mali is sub-saharan you retard
there's also Kongo and Swahili
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>>736013585
Crawdaunt's problem has always been the big stupid blue fake lips.
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>>736014665
Poop skin jamboy detected
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>>736014665
You think that all of africa is a desert?
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>>736014982
>powerful and docile animals
you are aware that african animals have a drastically higher level of innate fear of humans than any other animal on the planet right?
since you know, those animals actually co-evolved with hominids and evolved to react to us in the same way they react to a god damn lion

not to mention "never dreamed a sail" when one of the most famous stories of the Mali empire is of an (ultimately doomed) attempt of them to try and reach the Americas long before Europe did
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>>736007498
>je suis monté!
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>>736007185
Then be catches it and it gets zapped away to live with Oak until he needs Kingler to clutch out a win at the Pokemon League.
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>>736013585
>>736014921
how am i just now noticing that he has a smaller set of claws under the main set

>>736015026
he clearly does, otherwise he wouldn't be acting disingenuous with his posts to refute some bizarre point that nobody was making in the first place
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>>736007498
>[Twilight Princess Battle Climax theme intensifies]
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>>736015124
he sent a lot of his pokemon to oak without ever battling with them once. I don't recall him ever actually using muk.
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>>736014982
A KKK fanboy is surely someone who gives well informed opinions about Africans
>>736014314
But why do you think Africans had no incentive to adapt?
>>736014417
Dry season, good luck growing anything when water isn't around.
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>>736007196
Gen 2 was fantastic, however.
Gen 3 had some nice designs, but you could see the bullshit start to sneak in.
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>>736011693
I made a really funny set for this in mashups ages ago
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>>736015026
first of the serengeti is not a desert
secondly a massive portion of africa was savanna or jungle, especially more in the south

the regions that were fertile, such as around the river Niger and the Ethiopian highlands saw the spread of agriculture and with it settled societies

there's also some peculiarities to seemingly perfect locations that make them exceedingly hard to use, one of the prime examples is the Congo river which despite seeming like it would be the prime location for a maritime empire with upriver hinterlands is actually impossible to traverse all the way to the ocean
and no not "impossible to traverse for africans" impossible to traverse what so ever, the first time anyone sailed the full length of the river was in the 2010's and was only possible with a modern 1 person seat specialized kayak designed to be able to withstand the rigors of that river, it's still flat out impossible to use it for cargo transport
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>>736007556
Off to a private crab island.
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>>736007736
Was just thinking the other day about how fucking weird these goobers are
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>>736015203
He did in both the Johto and Kanto leagues iirc.
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>>736015220
>But why do you think Africans had no incentive to adapt?
>HURR WHY DON'T AFRICANS JUST CHOOSE TO EVOLVE
Still not getting it. Animals that can live comdfortably where there are have no reason to leave. You're still treating the end goal of evolution to reach the point where we are now, as though modern humans were always our end goal, and if you don't get why that's wrong and retarded, then I have zero reason to try to keep explaining it.
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>>736007556
>coconut music plays
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>>736015225
>but you could see the bullshit start to sneak in.
Gen 2 was fucking atrocious, not 3. Babies and toys everywhere.
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the reason africa didn't have as much agriculture as europe is simple
europeans got conquered and were forced to engage in agriculture, they never invented agriculture themselves after all, it was entirely forced upon them by their masters
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>Everything is le evolving into le crabs
Name one thing that evolded into crab in the last 2000 years.
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>>736008590
I used her in a trick room team to decent effect. She's pretty cool.
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>>736015453
carb bucket mentality in people
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>>736015350
Perhaps both of us are shit at explaining so that's why we currently are at this situation, because this all started here >>736013542
Assuming that post was yours, are you denying that you're built your argument on a false premise (that food in Africa was always available) and that Africans were too stupid to pick it up?
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>>736008267
Fanmade banlists can't be enforced outside of the communities that made them.
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>>736015357
Shit taste, can't sugarcoat it.
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>>736015453
your mom when she got crabs
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>>736007308
>Dude crabs lmaooo
>MOST SPECIES AWARD crown is on Beetles
Tanks > mecha
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>>736014921
This actually looks really good. I hate how GF went from making animals to making characters.
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>>736015619
2/3 of the starter lines are literally just blobs with vague elemental features tacked on
the only mons from gen 2 worth a damn are skarmory, scizor and the legends
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I got interested in Champions but then I remembered how dogshit newer Pokemon look and I'm not going to subject myself to that.
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>>736007736
>No stomach
>Have teeth early on - but lose them for no reason
>Mammal but lays eggs
>...but then the baby develops outside the egg anyway
>No nipples, just sweat the milk out

What the fuck are these guys up to. Its like a combo of the most random traits
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>>736007450
That’s travel speed, not reaction speed. Someone needs to learn on /dbg/
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>>736008023
>>736007959
They should hard commit and make the Jynx evolution look like a waifu mon, but give it stereotypical "cute black girl" features.

Fuck the haters. It'd kill off the old controversies and win people over
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>>736016036
Give her a huge ass and long, gem'd out nails.
I'm only half-joking.
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>>736014665
What, you can’t eat grass? Skill issue.
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>>736016314
I eat ur mums ass.btfo
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>>736016414
So you can eat poop? Then surely grass isn’t an issue for you?
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>>736015965
>Mammal but lays eggs
>No nipples, just sweat the milk out
those are just ancestral traits of mammals, that's what early mammals did
milk is just modified sweat
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>>736014331
>jew got this mad
You know there are more dignified ways to consneed
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>>736012572
at 60F it's pretty uncomfortable to be outside at night with no clothing, fire or shelter
at 40F it's lethal, you'll get hypothermia within just a few hours
you either live somewhere warm or do something to make the conditions for your survival possible
why do you think all the bums live in California? if you sleep outside in Maine at night, you just fucking die
it's also why africans never did jack shit, there was no significant pressure from nature for them to adapt or die, they could survive just by existing, hunting animals and building rudimentary shelters
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>>736015861
it's a bit pointless to even judge gold and silver on the new pokemon they added, because most of them were completely unavailable until you beat the league, trade evos, or version exclusives. the games themselves were fine if you don't mind using just kanto mons.
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>>736015350
The argument that Africa is a place where you can live "comfortably" is retarded. That's not what happened.

What happened is that, as humans evolved in Africa, the environment had time to adjust to them and form a deadlock where humans had to struggle to survive like any other animal.

When they left for other continents, the life in these continents was not adjusted for humans nor knew how to handle them, so they could mop these animals up with little issue; and once that task is done, your dominion of the region is basically unquestioned and thus you have time to settle down, do agriculture, etc.
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>>736007902
Do you think Mr. Crime would be discriminated against? Would there be special laws in place to prevent it?
Would there be a special NPC to let us know that not all Mr. Crimes are nefarious, and that their behaviour is not biologically-determined?
Would there be an episode of the anime showing us a Mr. Crime with a heart of gold, who, really, just liked playing pranks?
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>>736015203
>>736015348
He used Muk specifically against the Bellsprout girl in Kanto League.
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>>736014982
>powerful and docile animals
this is the one thing africans absolutely do not have, though I don't consider it alone a valid excuse for why they're STILL struggling to do literally anything
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Why do we still have "Out of Africa" proponents when older remains have been found outside the continent?
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>>736016826
I dunno, they have a thief pokemon and people seem to tolerate it. It's even a dark type as well.
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>>736007556
the fuck bro is doin to the turt
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>>736016993
Yeah, but that's a fox: he'll steal your food and then go home to the forest.
Mr. Crime is humanoid, and, presumably, his crimes would be more social in nature.
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>>736016759
This is legit such a meme there were tons of Gen 2 Pokemon during the story they’re just not the ones people want to use lol
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>>736007498
So that's how Frye's family gets their eels.
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>>736016992
because those older fossils point to migrations that most likely completely died out/failed to pass genes
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>>736008610
Pokemon TCG kind of does this. And even then everyone just uses the legendaries.
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>>736007024
Kinglers high attack doesn't mean shit if it gets one shot by any number of Pokémon who out speed it.
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>>736007024
It's a really big claw
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>>736017386
it's pretty bulky on the physical side though
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>>736007024
"Legendary" pokemon are shit and shouldn't be a thing for players to catch.
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>>736007498
yeeclaw
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>>736017480
Eternatus's max form is not possible to catch or use, you just get to battle it once during the story. It's also no longer possible to use Ultra Necrozma even though Necrozma is in some of the newer games.
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>>736017427
and yet it's weak to grass and electric
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>>736007934
But Kingler is not a pistol shrimp
This is >>736007510
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Biblically-accurate Pokemon were a mistake. Retvrn to crab.
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>>736007556
Don't do this to me, anon. I love baby turtles.
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>>736017659
yes and? those are not particularly bad weaknesses, water has been known as a great defensive typing for ages
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>>736007308
Yeah by "animals" this means crustaceans like lobster and shrimps will evolve forms that don't need to swim around because their niche doesn't require it and so they don't develop their tails very much and curl them under their body and focus more on walking on their legs so they take on a crab-like form.
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>>736007539
Crabs are crustaceans as well. Same with carpenters/rolly pollies/pill bugs
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>>736017405
4 U
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>>736018436
tell that to all 10,000 reddit faggots who think they're the first one to make the joke about humans turning in to crabs
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>>736012638
Another copout retarded reply
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>>736014492
The region's climate makes it hard to establish advanced societies. Northern Africa had access to cultures that lived in climates better suited for establishing one and had rivers that stayed constant. Sub-Saharan rivers are seasonal so you can't really develop around one which most great empires started off around.
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>>736018436
Besides the real example you should use for this level of convergent evolution isn't crabs, since like you said that's crustaceans only

the actual example in nature is trees

an apple tree is closer related to a pansy than it is to a pine tree
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>>736007902
>Mr. Lime.
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>>736019043
Jej
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>>736013372
Isn't that a gator?
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>>736007902
Only works in English though.

His name is "Barrierdo" or something like that in Japanese so it'd be weird
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>>736017037
Merely a victim of Pokenomic circumstances
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>>736019042
Very true. Trees are just plants groups that all came to the same outcome of increased lignin will create a sturdier, stronger body.
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>>736019290
and it goes back even further, tree ferns aren't even remotely related to modern trees
just like you said, turns out that being the tallest plant is an advantage, but to be tall you gotta be strong and a trunk is a dang good solution
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>>736019042
Bamboo is also similar to a tree but its grass. The various families of animals that can fly are in no way related to each other.
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>>736015965
>but then the baby develops outside the egg anyway
How does that work?
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>>736019365
the weird thing is that tree but grass happened twice
banana trees grow in fundamentally the same way grass does and are closely related to true grasses

in fact the way a banana tree grows is closer to how grass grows than bamboo is to how grass grows
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>>736019395
that's how kangaroos develop. The embryo is born into the pouch and then latches on to a nipple where it stays connected until its old enough to let go and move around.
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>>736019395
eggs hatching into premature young is pretty common in nature
in a lot of birds chicks are hatched blind and naked even more helpless than human babies
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>>736007024
now post the rest of their stats
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>>736019395
The little niggas hatch really underdeveloped and have to hang onto their mom for a while
It's like baby birds more than something like snakes or sharks where they basically hatch ready to go
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>>736019338
>ferns aren't trees
Yeah they still release spores instead of seed development and if you look under their leaves you can see the little spore pockets when they're in their reproduction phase.
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>>736019365
>Bamboo is also similar to a tree but its grass
So are palm trees.
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>>736019583
it's really funny that there's live-bearing sharks
they're about as far away from us as a vertebrate can be evolutionary

not chordates though because tunicates are the weirdest fucking animal
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>>736009154
So is gravity and time but you still wouldn't jump off a building because you know that'd make you late to work.
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>>736019742
I'd jump off a reason for that specific reason, actually
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>>736019660
and despite that they once upon a time were also trees
convergent evolution is just so fascinating, it's the ultimate proof that evolution isn't just "random"
it's a game of optimization and there's actual rules to it that everyone follows
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>>736007024
That there is also level and EVs on top of it. A wild Kingler is never getting strong enough on its own to fight a legendary. But if it has been trained to be among the strongest Kinglers in history, then it can. Although legendaries still have better overall stats than the majority of normal pokemon. Just not necessarily one specific stat.
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>>736019725
There's species of reptile that also have live births. There's one species in Australia going through this change with some females having live births.
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>>736019725
take your pick, boys
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>>736007220
>>736012297
it's almost been 20 years since that happened
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>>736019870
actually it gives even further than that
skinks don't just have live birth, there's one obscure african skink named Trachylepis ivensii that goes way beyond that

they have a fully developed placenta, as in their placenta are closer to our placenta than even marsupials are, their eggs have been reduced to truly vestigial remnants that hatch before even reaching their womb and will likely just be gone all together in less than a million years of evolution
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>>736019832
>evolution isn't just "random"
This what creationists don't understand. Evolution works with what it has available. You would think humans have less hair than apes, but in fact we have just as much but our DNA doesn't express that hair genes as much to make it thicker because we put more into brain development which compensates that lose of retaining heat protection from the elements by making things to cover ourselves with and evolution selected out those that didn't do that.
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>>736019928
this is closer related to you than an octopus is by the way
they only have brains in their larval forms, the moment they attach they just eat their own brains
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>>736020119
Who the fuck wants a brain when all you are is a tube waiting for food to go into it?
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>>736007024
Blame gen 4. Legendaries are meant to be big guys, not literal gods.
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>>736007478
It’s better to be small. Easier to find food. Being huge is suffering.
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>>736020104
don't forget how the thinning of our hair wasn't related to tool use at all but rather it allowed our sweat to more efficiently cool us down increasing our endurance and in turn letting us incorporate more meat in our diets first by scavenging then later by active hunt which in turn let our brains grow larger which in turn made us capable of fabricating clothing which in turn let us migrate to areas which are way too cold for our heat-adapted bodies to survive in normally

and none of that was working towards this goal in any way but rather just working with what was best in the moment
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>>736020195
I think it started with gen 3. That was the first time the legendaries were integral to the actual story.
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>>736016592
>christcuck calling anyone else a jew
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>>736007024
Now show their Special attack
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>>736007024
>t. never got pinched by a crab
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>>736020280
>and none of that was working towards this goal in any way
Another thing creationists don't get. They assume evolution has us as some end goal and then wonder why nothing else has evolved to be like us. If the niche doesn't select for it, why would that adaptation develop?
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>>736020398
>>736008020
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>>736007358
Spider hands typed this
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>>736009387
>>Atheist: "O-Oh, uhh, those ones didn't evolve!"
This is the strawman. Every living thing on the planet has and is currently evolving. Even so called living fossils, organisms that largely resemble their ancient ancestors, have changed over time. Thats all evolution is, gradual changes through breeding of traits and random genetic mutations. There is no end point or goal, organisms are simply more likely to reproduce if they are better at surviving to do so and/or are better at reproducing.
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>>736007024
>posts special attacking legend next to physical attacking Pokemon
Krabby and Kingler's only good stat is physical attack and has a base stat total of like 400, this should be a poster child of cherrypicking.
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>>736009754
Viable offspring is one of the prime factors in differing species. Its why "dogs" are a single species, but lions and tigers aren't, ligers aren't usually fertile.
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>>736020693
>>736008020
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>>736007308
Evolution is just a theory.
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>>736015090
>african animals are impossible to domesticate!
>white people try for a bit, get pretty good results
>arabs managed to get the camel to work, the animal that hates humans more than anything.

I mean, somewhere like new guinea having jack shit makes sense, but africa being "too hard" is cope.
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>>736008267
Restricted formats in official. Smogon/showdown doesn't exist and doesn't matter as far as the pokemon company is concerned, and they don't need to mess with it or balance around it since they handle their own rule sets.
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>>736020827
a GAME theory
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>>736020924
You dont matter
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>>736020843
White people tried to domesticate Zebras but they're too much of cunts for that to work. There have even been instances where a zoo had multiple zebras in the same exhibit and they had to separate them because they were cunts to each other.
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>>736020787
Oh would you look at that, an ad-hoc later gen evolution that also has minmaxxed glass cannon stats who had one number better than a restricted legend. There is a reason they always gave cover legends until gen 6 a boring base 90ish speed, just like starters they weren't supposed to be too min-maxed. Trying being a legrnd that has speed comprable to Meeteo but also great bulk. Meanwhile Cursola here has worse physical bulk then Chansey.
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>>736007586
>wants to help turtle reach the water
>realizes it can only walk sideways
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>>736021120
>Massive goal shifting happening
You lost tranny
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>>736020827
Yes, scientific theories are
>the best explanation we currently have until sufficiently challenged or proven wrong
Sometimes they end up wrong, but thats a good thing because it means we learned something new.
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>>736013585
>>736014921
>>736015847
The blue stripes are to imitate a Sharpedo. It’s supposed to emulate batesian mimicry as a means of self defence.
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>>736021257
Elaborate how I shifted the goalposts.
>why yes, glass cannons having one really high number exists and can compare or even surpass legends in one particular stat but that doesn't mean shit
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>>736015286
>Crabstein Island
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>>736021059
Without even any selective breeding people have managed to tame zebras enough to ride them. The only reason they haven't been domesticated is because we already have horses and donkeys. So there is no incentive to go through the breeding process we already did for them for an animal that would be entirely redundant with them.
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>>736021560
taming =/ domestication
people have been taming elephants enough to ride them for well over 2000 years and yet it is and has always remained impossible to domesticate an elephant

at the same time, bees are not tame, but they are domesticated

also african cows are genetically distinct from the rest of the world and are the result of a separate domestication incident from local cattle, so one of the few animals possible to domesticate from africa in fact was domesticated by africans
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>ACTUALLY THERE’S A REASON IT LOOKS DOGSHIT SO IT’S ACTUALLY GOOD
God I love how it’s impossible to criticize GF, oh how I love the fact that no matter how retarded the decision that some faggot will defend it to the absolute death
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>>736021268
>best explanation we currently have
No. They are
>Whatever the jew funding our research told us to say so he can sell trash and brainwash the goyim easier
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>>736021841
people have always been criticizing pokemon simply because they didn't understand what the design was based on. it's fine to have an opinion on its design, but it makes you a retard to just assume it was just random bits and bangles haphazardly thrown together
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What next? /v/ believing in flat Earth and thinking the Moon landing was fake because da j00s say otherwise? And on top of that you have all the christcuck larp. Grim times for 4channel.
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>>736007024
The fact that the Pokemon on the left are primarily Special Attackers, while the Pokemon on the left are primarily Physical Attackers
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>>736021493
>Crawdaunt is consistently one of the stronger gen 3 pokemon
>Sharpedo is consistently one of the weaker gen 3 pokemon

Crawdaunt chose pretty poorly for a mimicry
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>>736007024
Even game freak understand that the original 150 were superior and it should have stopped there. Why should car keys be powerful?
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>>736007556
>Bro (totally absolutely not me) when he sees a minor (she told me she was 18 I swear!)
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>>736022112
Take me, mamma Venusaur
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>>736022008
How does the jew angle make sense if it's Americans who fight against evolution (and science in general) the most and they're also Israel's most loyal followers?
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/pol/ is leaking again
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>>736022134
>>736008020
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>>736022047
Being bad on or with purpose doesnt stop something from being bad.
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>>736022261
If you can be okay with Rotom, Klefki is basically the same idea. Then there's Dehlmise, which is criticized for being an anchor, when it is actually the moss growing on the anchor, not the anchor itself. Is it a good idea? Maybe not, but it isn't just random nonsense.
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>>736022739
It's almost like I said that it's fine to have an opinion on a design, but I notice you conveniently continue to bitch and make a non-point
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>>736021707
Do you really need the logistical challenges of domesticating elephants explained to you? There is no magic gene that makes an animal impossible to domesticate. If it can be selectively bred, it can be domesticated. Even animals that can't (initially) be bred in captivity are possible to domesticate via selective culling. Animals like elephants weren't domesticated because it wasn't worth it, not because it can't be done.
The most retarded part about this cope is that zebras aren't even an especially challenging project. They're not actually any more hostile to humans than other wild equids. And certainly not more than the natural predator of humans that just so happens to be the most thoroughly domesticated animal. Their social organization is extremely similar to horses. And the environment they live in is less hostile and resource barren than the Eurasian steppe while also being less open, making them easier to catch for an ancient human on foot.
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>>736022741
I like Dehlmise but not Klefki. I'm neutral on Rotom. Looks matter more than concept.
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>>736023030
Sad about your face then
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>>736022741
The ship wheel is a bit much but its not bad
Nta but i get it
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>>736007556
I think its worse to be killed by something so mindless and apathetic compared to a human that at least has some sadistic enjoyment.
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>>736022741
I said 150 and have no idea what you schizo rant is about.
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>>736021841
You’re brain damaged and incapable of looking at the situation objectively.
People were reeling off about why there were blue stripes on Crawdaunt so I explained the design philosophy. Nowhere did I say it was a good design or that anyone was wrong to dislike it.
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>>736015114
kek
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>>736022895
a key requirement for domestication is that the animal has no instinctual fear of humans
and that's the main problem with zebras: they have an instinctual fear of humans, it's why it's impossible to domesticate them

they are in fact drastically more hostile towards humans than other wild equids
homo sapiens also literally never had a natural predator, wolves have never considered humans prey animals

the fact you think wolves were natural predators of humans says quite literally everything that needs to be said about how trustworthy your posts are
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>>736025185
you can't expect gen 1 pissbabies to behave rationally
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>>736019228
kek
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>>736007185
Ash aint human
no way anyone could tank that and live
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>>736023948
From the ant deciding to skinny dip in your coffee to the crocodile helping you cover the whole river they're not mindless nor apathetic. They're literally fucking hungry and you're on the menu. It's a dog eat dog world. The fuck do you want, to get inside the crab's brain and see it thinking about the cool sand ball yard it built?
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>>736009387
t.
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>>736007358
Horseshoe crabs are technically arachnids, therefore spiders are crabs.
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>>736026585
specious logic, because horseshoe crabs are not actually crabs
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>>736008457
Ash had like twenty tauros.
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>>736026585
They're in some retard cousin group besides arachnids last time i've checked.
Also why aren't you stuck to a blood milking machine you stupid waking rock?
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>>736026943
I really dislike Ursaluna
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>>736025250
>homo sapiens also literally never had a natural predator,
Being fuck huge scavenger gorillas with big fuck you legs puts a dent of a lot of predation in the jungle pockets, but what about the savannahs? Homos had to travel through them and lionesses hunt there and fags look very huntable for cats that can fucking cloak while on tall grass.
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>>736027047
Both versions of them? Cuz I don't like bloodmoon all that much but the other one seems fine
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>>736013372
American Gators and Nile Crocodile aren't successful because they are "peak lifeforms" they are successful because we farm them. They are just about the only carnivore that is worth harvesting for meat, they also taste really good.
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>>736027176
The physical one is slightly overturned minmaxxed but tolerable and counterable. Blood Moon's design is retarded and it's way overtuned.
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>>736007024
he crab
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>>736011447
You say that, but there are people who genuinely think like this and assume evolution is false because there's a gaps without understanding not all things fossilize.
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>>736007024
Crabs have a huge pinch grip that's stronger than a gorilla's deadlift capability. Let that sink in. Train your grip = you will increase your deadlift.
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>>736027298
Black Caiman as well, just about every other croc species is pretty much left alone and they are in a bad spot
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>Pretty guud Thread
I wonder what they taste like
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>>736027298
I have the relationship with Crocodile meat similar to what others have towards blue cheese. (Love it or Hate it) I'm in the "hate camp" due to the way too strong game taste. I mean its edible just not for me and I enjoy organ meats usually. I prefer eating Roo meat. Leanest meat and similar to chicken or duck. (both goated.)
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>>736027119
As early as Homo Erectus we didn't have any natural predators
sure lions would opportunistically kill one of us, same way we'd opportunistically kill one of them but there was not a single predator who'd consider us even as a secondary food source once we got to the point we could fully walk upright and use weaponry

Homo Erectus and onwards were apex predators, and even if technically a bigger apex predator could kill one, it's just never worth it, it's why bears don't hunt wolves despite a singular bear being very much capable of killing a wolf or why lions don't hunt hyenas

remember, a predator doesn't just have to win from it's prey, it has to win AND be in a state where they're not badly injured and it's that last part that would have been a complete shitshow against humans in group

Also tf are jungles relevant, our ancestors weren't jungle animals, we're descendant from the last common ancestor with chimps who left the jungle
you wanna know what we'd call their descendants that didn't? CHIMPS

Australopithecus was a partial woodland expert and anything in the genus Homo is a dedicated savanna expert
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>>736007024
Crab is the top tier evolution line.
ez
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non ironic answer: legendary Pokémon have stats that are all very high. all 6 of them. the crab has literally just attack and all shit stats otherwise. he's slow, can't take a hit and his HP is low.
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>>736027721
Based as fuck anthropologist anon
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>>736023948
what did that bird think was going to happen
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>>736027176
nah it looks fucking retarded
especially the play-doh eyebrow "clouds"
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>>736027721
>Wewuzchimpsandkangsandshiit.
Post hands, one palm down, the other up.
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>>736027721
>why lions don't hunt hyenas
lions will very much kill hyenas if they can, but they usually don't actually eat it. guessing they taste like shit.
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>>736007358
Spiders are nothing like crabs, and they kinda suck, actually. Lots of costly mutations pushed to overkill levels like hydraulic limbs, overly developed primitive eyes, venom and webs, at cost of being slow fragile campy shits who can't swim, can't fly, and have such garbage digestive systems that they have to be on a smoothie diet.
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>>736028225
lions will only kill hyenas as last resort, the primary interaction between the 2 is one of intimidation
I'm not saying they can't kill a hyena, I very much said they did, I'm just saying as a predator if you want to eat something hyena sized literally every single god damn animal in africa roughly that size is better choice than going for a hyena

cause if the lion fucks up his bite (and remember predators fuck up a lot, most hunts aren't successful unless you're specialized for eating things 10x smaller than you) he's now, rather than dealing with a panicking antelope, dealing with an angry cornered hyena who can easily inflict a debilitating wound with his bite

One wrong move and now one of the lion's legs is crippled and it doesn't matter if he technically wins the battle here, he's just as dead because he can't hunt anymore
that's why predators don't fuck with other predators and why they roar
and also why, this might surprise you, predators tend to roar at humans and make threat displays, they recognize us as fellow predators and go in "fuck off" mode, a predator who wants to eat you is going to do his absolute best to not be seen or heard
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>>736026858
And did any of them get a sweep? No? Then they aren't sweepers.
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>>736028001
they're just stuck on mud retard, it's a ground type, not eyebrows
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>736007024
Have you tried fighting a crab?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mHKHKR8x6A
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>>736007024
wait a fucking second this is just an /an/ thread
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>Fat cat
>outpaces Pokemon that can move at mach 1
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>>736028913
>you sure you wanna do that
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How we feelin' about bro-conut crabs?
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>>736029593
>look what this ultra beast has
snibedy snab :DDD
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>>736029832
forgod bigdure :DDD
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>>736029593
bug
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>>736027539
you do need grip strength so that you don't focus too much into grabbing the bar, but it's not really that relevant
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>>736009323
Jynx is based on the Yamauba and ganguro fashion.
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>>736029593
Would
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>>736028794
Okay, and? Still looks fucking retarded
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>>736007498
This happens all the time on a spiritual level. Archonic nigger mantids and greys fuck with people's perception who are too awake. We call them schizos and lock them up.
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>>736028935
Cat reaction times are insane.
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>>736007308
Moving sideways and hiding in rocks is busted in the ocean because so many marine animals dump all their points into speed and have no points in handling
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>>736007308
there's a lobster that walks on land that everyone calls a crab. forgot the name though.
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>>736031103
That bird actually lived BTW the filmmakers just baited everybody
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>>736026508
*doggy dog world
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>>736031591
yjk
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>>736031501
>>736031708
Fuck you, this is animal abuse. Of course it's a hot pot / wok, only chinksects would record such vile filth. It should be illegal to cook crustaceans alive.
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>>736031708
m-man, that onsen must be REALLY hot, I sure hope he comes back out to dry off soon...
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>>736031791
Holy shit that fish is way stronger than he looks
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WHY THE FUCK DOES DRAGONAIR TURN INTO THIS GOOFY FUCKASS
IF DRAGONITE JUST EXISTED AS ITS OWN THING I WOULDNT BE MAD BUT HOLY SHIT
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>>736032031
Why isn't he at least blue?
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>>736032031
Something like a togepi should evolve into dragonite.
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>>736031875
it wanted a hot bath~
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>>736031708
Right wingers should replace the penguin with lobster.
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>>736020843
>tried to domesticate hippos and failed
>tried to domesticate zebras and failed
>tried to domesticate monkeys and got mixed results (some of those assholes end up killing you)
>tried to domesticate lions and failed
Im confused, what good results am I missing here? Surely you arent talking about the fucking koalas
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>>736029893
I hate arms coming from inside the mouth. Imagine a jaw that wasn't designed to close completely and always have some airflow or opening to it, that sounds horrendous.
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>>736031256
Sweet Arceus...
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>>736031791
How soft is that shell I wonder
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>>736032031
You know the Venonat and Caterpie evolution line got mixed up in development of gen 1
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>>736031256
>hear me out
>what if it had higher offenses than Mega Rayquaza
>and it could use The Light That Burns The Sky, over and over every turn without a penalty
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>>736032679
Venonat to Butterfree? That's cool, I can see that
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>>736032679
That's a baseless rumor, it was never ever confirmed true, not even during the gigaleaks.
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>>736007308
Being a crab has to be come form of demonic corruption
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>>736011723
Only 4.50% of all 1025 pokemon sre competitively viablue
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>>736028935
>>736030748
Yeah, Speed is more reaction time and recovery than ability to achieve high velocity. Most mons with low Speed are slow, but not all, and most mons with high Speed are fast but also not all.
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>>736031256
Still nothing compared to the previous flavor of legendaries. You look at Koraidon and think its stats are nothing special, a mere 135 attack right? This is a mistake. Its attack is not simply 135, it's more equivalent to it having around ~220 (not factoring in held item, IVs, EVs, or sun boost by the way it gets even worse)
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>>736032031
piss colored barney lookin ass
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>>736007024
This image made me just realize that pokemon is just slowly turning into a shittier SMT with all of its lore powercreep pseudo-demigods/outright gods and demons.
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>>736032398
ONCE IT GETS YA
ITS GETS YA
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>>736032785
>have to get a 4x ice weak mon to half health without an easy item like sash before it gets access to mega
>switches from physical to special attacker when doing so
it's baisically the og zen darmanitan as a legendary, it's much better but it's still kinda shit
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>>736032398
>one day a crab minding his business suddenly and without reason died to a delta p beyond his capacity for understanding
>and the world continued to spin, completely apathetic to his doom
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>>736034001
Wouldn't have happened to an octopus
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>>736033924
zygarde 100% never was shit. also zen darma has the same hp. zygarde changes hp so it "recovers" it.
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>>736034154
see, neither is darmanitan. and that's why zen darm is so shit. why sabotage your set for a gimmick if you can just use regular darm, or regular zyg?
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cunny is that powerful (translator note:cunny is crab in Japanese)
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>>736034001
>without reason
False! The reason is simple: it walked over the crack and paid the price for it's hubris.
>but the crab had no idea
Nonsense. It lives in a 3d environment, it could have chosen an infinity of directions to move in all equally rich in plankton and algae, and yet it chose the one that would get it killed. Not only that, but every fiber of it's being should have been telling it to get the fuck away from that, yet still he approached.
The crab CHOSE this, it was not random, it was SUICIDE.
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>>736034349
Does the crab have awareness or sentience? Does a crab actually decide, or does it react to the hormones and chemical influxes of its mind?
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>>736007024
simple is best
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>>736032443
What is that?
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>>736007024
They're all special attackers
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>>736034341
Truth nuke
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>>736007194
>stats in Pokemon accurately reflected the lore
Gardevoir would be a walking apocalypse because it can create black holes. Pokemon lore is retarded.
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>>736035089
hoff crab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXpt8KcoczY
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>>736007308
>Crabs are the pinnacle of animal evolution
Crabs are the "pinnacle" of animal evolution in the same way a pit is the ultimate living space. Everyone wants to fall into a pit, right? That's why so many things fall into them. Animals keep turning into crabs because crabs possess a lot of convenient qualities that make life a little easier, but by specializing into crab they fall into a closed-loop (genetically) that they can't get out of. It's why some animals haven't changed for millions of years, because they get caught in a selective-pressure hell that refuses to let go. Like a crab claw.
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>>736032679
No. Caterpie is a literal cartoon version of a butterfly larva.
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>>736008267
Accurate power levels wouldn't just hurt competitive play. It would cause massive problems for the main game as well.
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>>736007024
So this is a case where getting crabs is a good thing?
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>>736007185
>>736007024
The reason?
HE'S MY FUCKING HERO
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>>736011660
absolute Yiddish nonsense
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I love the krab.
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>>736031591
>Why did God make me with no lips or muscles to suck when I got fresh tiddy right here?
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>>736034349
Show some goddamn empathy.
Imagine being human and having that happen to you
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>>736007308
Crabs is racist
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>>736025250
every animal ever started off with instinctual fear of the apex predator you stupid ass mongolid
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Crabs are powerful
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>>736007024
Why must you minimize the power of my friendship with my very large crab
>>736017480
They're not exactly a pocket monster if you can't catch them and put them in your pocket now are they?
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>>736032031
>Charizard doesn't get dragon dual typing because the type needed to be special
>Give it to a knockoff barney instead
I'm still mad.
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>>736031791
>This kills the crab
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>>736009387
>dogs evolved from wolves, so why are wolves still around?????
You are mentally retarded.
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>>736032031
Dragonairtrannies are the most boring people on earth.
>I love my heckin blue snake, fuck the dragon with actual limbs
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>>736007024
bros my kingler looks weird
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>>736009387
>t. high school dropout
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>>736012572
>Wow this is so nice and green and warm, I think I'll stay here. No need to build shelter or store food, it's warm and food sources are abundant!
>Six months later-
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>>736010874
slaking can be very good in competitive if used as an opener. one powerful smack to start the game can be enough to justify his existence. then be smart about swap outs and you can get more good use out of him.
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>>736019183
waruido
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>>736019183
>Niggerdo
there, fixed
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>>736031256
what the fuck is this gay ass design
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>>736039680
i do love my heckin blue snake, yeah
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>>736007308
>theorize that animals that have the same traits are descended from a common ancestor
>dna testing proves this wrong for crabs
>instead of admitting you were wrong, just say "wow, what an amazing coincidence that these unrelated animals became crabs? Isn't evolution cool?"
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>>736007498
WHEEEEEEN AAAAAAN
OCTOPUS GUY LATCHES ONTO YOUR EYE
THAT'S A MORRRAAAAAYYYYYY
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>>736041003
that seems like the normal response, since dna testing proved it right for other animals, and also many crabs
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>>736040706
the same design as 10 years ago but greener and with a cannon
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>>736041163
more gamefreak employees should be committing seppuku
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>>736020716
That's bullshit though. Coyotes and wolves are separate species and can create viable offspring. Humans and Neanderthals did too.
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>>736007024
balancing for competitivefags is one hell of a drug
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>>736041337
if we just killed all of them we could save the series
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>>736007024
yes the legendaries should have stats in the tens of thousands that would work swell
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>>736007358
Spiders can't live on the ocean floor, crabs can
your favorite niggerman is on the same level of crabs and that's a honor
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If a pokemon has less than 100 speed and less than 100 atk or special atk, it is a shitmon and i won't use it, simple as.
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>>736041405
the final boss of ZA has various appendages that serve as enemies. they only take 3 hits from zygarde, but they're programmed to have 25000 HP each, which is the absolute highest in the series.
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>>736041674
that's so gay
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>>736007556
Yoink!
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>999 attack machamp with iron ball, revenge and fling
yup. its gaming time
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>>736015965
It's like an Elden Ring build when you don't know wtf you are doing but you want to try all weapons and styles, your stats are all over the place, your souls fashion is an abomination, you don't even know how it works, but it works
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>>736016714
What this anon said. Having to plan for the winter in advance to not die (or low drinking water overall) plays a huge role on how society develops
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>>736014982
>they didnt invent the wheel because.. because they just didnt, okay?? there was no need for it!!
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>>736033924
A thought experiment
>if Zygarde holds a Booster Energy, it activates turn 1 and transforms him into Complete Forme automatically
Would people run it over the mega stone?

If the answer is “no, mega is way too broken” then the Complete Forme transformation conditions don’t balance it
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>>736013372
I hate bigass reptiles, I think we as a species should kill em all or at least crocodiles and komodo dragons specifically. Mammal pride worldwide.
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>>736042827
who gives a shit
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>>736042932
Anyone worried about a restricted format with this running around
>>736031256
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/an/ threads on /v/ are always super comfy.
On a side note my PC died today and I don't have enough money for a new graphics card so, hello Jailbroken ps4 my old friend
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>>736007443
We were not talking about your mama nigga
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>>736043140
please find something of value to care about
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>>736033362
Only for 5 turns of sun, which can be weather war’d off. And Collision Course is only 100BP (133 if it’s SE), not fucking 200.
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>>736032443
The nourishing tube.
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>>736009387
The common ancestor we share with monkeys was something like a tree shrew. There were different branches of hominids, the most notable Neanderthals but they were wiped out, at least phenotype wise. We don't look like them but all modern humans have like 5% Neanderthal DNA. Most likely scenario that there was a combo of genocide/assimilation until only Homo sapiens sapiens remained. Now that gate is closed until we all die, assuming we don't fuck up the planet so bad we kill everything else too
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>>736012507
There's no point in discussing with people that are basically saying that a Cane Corso and a Chihuahua are basically the same. You just need eyes and common sense to realize
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>>736014314
The end goal of evolution is to survive. If you happen to evolve into a reality bending civilization or into a microbacteria that can survive in volcanic vent on the sea floor it's the same as long as it works
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>>736043758
nah we only split from the baboon lineage around 25mya at which point old world monkeys were already distinct old world monkeys
and we only split from gibbons at around 15mya, 18mya earliest, our LCA with them was pretty distinct proto-ape

after that we had a LCA with chimps around 7mya and could interbreed with them up until about 5.5mya

Something super interesting is new evidence rising that our LCA with chimps might have been a facultative biped rather than a chimp-like tree dweller and the hominid lineage was the one that specialized more in terrestrial locomotion while the chimps specialized in arboreal locomotion
always remember, chimps are just as evolved as we are, just selected for by different pressures
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>>736019870
The most fascinating for me is parthenogenesis. To think an insect, not a bacteria, can pop out infinite copies of itself as long as there's food. I hate aphids . Then there's the sea slugs that will regenerate a full individual when chopped into pieces
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>>736045523
plants fucking love parthenogenesis
there's a flower who's sole dedicated pollinator bee went extinct like a million years ago and hasn't had sexual reproduction of any kind since then, just endless copies of itself
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>>736045635
one million year old virgin
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>>736045723
well no the OG flowers are long dead, the individuals don't live that long
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>>736045762
you can't prove that
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>>736020104
A lot of people praise our brain and language but humans as beasts evolved to stamina Maxx first, brain later. Predators are not supposed to be able to pursue their prey for days without stopping, that's because we don't overheat, we can sweat from all our skin and being upright means you take less direct sunlight.
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>>736045852
persistence hunting is a bit of a meme in how it's presented though
the real persistence hunting isn't charging after an animal for days to exhaust it, that's pretty wasteful

the actual use of our stamina in hunting combines with another distinctly human trait, our minmaxed upper bodies for throwing weapon
functionally this combo meant that hominids engage a prey animal from range without any risk to themselves, letting them do things like treat a herd like a target rich environment rather than a death sentence

and then if they didn't kill something outright, but wounded it, they could pursue it until it exhausted itself usually like an hour or 2 later and claim the kill anyways

another factor with endurance and bipedalism as well as not overheating was being able to cut up a carcass and carry away far more meat than they could eat to feed the rest of the group without having to defend a kill from other predators
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>>736046079
i mean, we did also famously run them off of cliffs
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>>736045523
Certain jellyfish can revert back to early forms of its development
>>736045635
>there's a flower who's sole dedicated pollinator bee went extinct like a million years ago and hasn't had sexual reproduction of any kind since then
Avocados were originally eaten by large herbivores before humans came in and killed them off and humans kept them around because they liked eating them. Without humans the avocado would just die off
>just endless copies of itself
Many bamboo species hav a built in clock when it blooms and dies and for this certain bamboo plant was 120+ years and unknown to the people that found it and cut ooff piece for clones for gifts to grow and when all the clones bloomed the same day and died right after
>>736045852
>Predators are not supposed to be able to pursue their prey for days without stopping
Not entirely true. Komodo dragons bite victims with their venomous saliva and then chase them down to exhaustion and will follow them for days at a time. What makes humans different we don't need to get up close to kill our prey. We can throw a spear, arrow or rock at fast speeds. One of the things that gave us an edge over the other hominids around us. Neanderthal never advanced its weapons past large stone tip spears good only for up close fighting hence their more stocky frame compared to humans
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>>736046357
yes and we didn't do that by pure endurance, we did that by being smarter than them, and setting up an entire herd to run off a cliff because we had fire to terrify them with and could set up tribe members ahead of time along the path to scare them

like, a bison can plan ahead maybe like half an hour at best?
Humans can make plans years ahead of time, it's just completely and utterly unfair to them, they were acting on instincts that would have worked against everything other than a human
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>>736028683
Bengal Tigers definitely look at humans as food. They stalk them for long distances and will wait for humans to attack them from behind. Harvesters in the Jungle wear masks in the back of their heads to prevent tiger attacks. Tiger piss stinks tho so it's easier to avoid tiger territory by smell
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>>736047028
Polar bears are also natural predators, will actively hunt people to the point that polar bear hunters don't actually "hunt" polar bears, they get into their territory and just walk until a bear starts following them. Terrifying.
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>>736047162
when you live in the fucking arctic you take what is offered
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>>736028919
We were (gladly) bamboozled again.
Mods are based and don't mess with /an/ threads even if they are off topic.
Bnuuy threads are also good. /tv/, anything that is NOT videogames basically
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>>736047028
only injured or starving tigers risk that though
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>>736031791
Eating the fucking pincers is wild. This fish must be related to the one that eats coral.
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>>736032443
>We need to let black crabs into our volcanic vent society that has endured for millions of years undisturbed or we will surely perish in the coming years
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>>736043758
>Most likely scenario that there was a combo of genocide/assimilation until only Homo sapiens sapiens remained.
wait until you find out what the proto-indo-europeans did to everyone else
the secret winning combo is neanderthal blood and steppe nomad blood
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>>736034341
I can believe it since we are seeing the cunnification in games right now. Pregnata, Re, Sakuna, Imoutos everywhere. Over time everything becomes an Anime girl.
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>>736007024
Gyarados syndrome. That's back when pokebuilding philosophy was less than straightforward and the STAB type didn't always match up with the dominate stat. When STAB was a bonus. Nowadays it's expected.
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>>736048178
aka Flareon Syndrome
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>>736041268
Viable offspring that can infinitely mate with each other is the issue. Mules are sterile (mostly) but they live their entire lives without problen. Ligers also,but have severe health issues because the growth hormone goes whack and reach unhealthy sizes.
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That's why I love my boy Shuckle, absolute highest defenses in the entire series and he's just a worm turtle.
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>>736045360
Based anon correcting my ignorant self.
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>>736045635
That plant is like me, wtf.
Except I never scored.



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