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>/v/...i'am FORGOTTEN...
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I wish and so does chink room
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>the new contender appears
I for one believe in the Polish autism
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>>736016683
Hopefully there's a quest to buy a blender from the 99p store.
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>>736016683
I can feel it'll be good
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>>736017036
It's made by people behind Robocop and Terminator, so you can expect a very soulful game full of AA jank.
But the devs REALLY want to make it this "Bloodlines 2 we've never gotten" according to all the interviews. All the power to them.
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>>736016683
>Same devs as Rogue City
they have my trust
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>>736016683
I hope it survives Nacon imploding.
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>>736017160
>It's made by people behind Robocop and Terminator, so you can expect subpar gameplay and a bad story
ftfy
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>>736017305
That's why they put the trailer out and "accidentally" leaked the demo build, to demonstrate public interest to what must be a very skeptical Paradox following the Bloodlines 2 catastrophe.
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>>736017964
To be fair, Paradox brought the catastrophe on themselves.
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>>736016683
It's gonna be great
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>even the janky medieval dynasty knockoff with vamps is a bettter vampire game than bloodlines2
In a better world someone would publicly sodoku for this
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>>736018143
It is supposed to have vampries, tabletop stats autism, im-sim mechanics, branching paths, romances, waifus, sex and nudity.
How can you fuck this one up?
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Does Hunter have any waifu potential? I generally think of hunter girls as sweaty tomboys that don't shave, so I'm skeptical, the RPG genre is carried by waifus.
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>>736018342
The devs confimed sex and romance, because unlike the Kindred, the Hunters fuck, so yes?
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>>736016560
I played through it once, its alright.
My suggestion is to cheat yourself points, instead of doing those bloodsucking radiant quests. Don't do it all at once though, unlock a few every chapter.
The main story is the same no matter who you are or what you do, which makes replaying the game strictly about the combat, and that's meh.
The city looks great, the fighting is kinda like The Witcher once stealth pops, and its like Dishonored before the stealth pops.
The character are good, the writing is generally good. The dialogues are well acted and well voiced. Characters react as you think they would.
The fashion is peak, I feel that if the game was more open and there was more reason to roam around the world, there'd be a lot more screenshots/clips.
Since you can switch skills on the fly, you can start with your stealth kit, and switch to combat skills if you are detected.
The few endings are something you should see on YouTube, rather than replay for. Arbitrary points in the game put you on one rail or another.

Overal 6/10, above average, would recomment for 1 playthrough for people who like Bloodlines or Dishonored.
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>>736018496
>Nix
Not quite as stupid as killing Ryong since doggie was kind of asking for it, but it left just as much "for what purpose?" feel
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I'm looking forward to the DLC. I'm also curious if they'll be able to fix some of the weird problems it has before they're forced to move on.
>>736018683
They added a new system in the last patch for resonant blood where you can find blood bags to power the unlock system instead of having to grind resonant NPCs or complete the undercooked sidequests.
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>>736018830
>They added a new system in the last patch for resonant blood where you can find blood bags to power the unlock system instead of having to grind resonant NPCs or complete the undercooked sidequests.
Much needed, that system is ass. Every time I've posted about the game, I recommended a mod to cheat it.
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>>736018768
Killing characters is good for storytelling. It makes you wonder who'll die next.
I wish we had some sort of resolution, including an optionately violent one, for our dear matron in the tower.
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>>736018915
The resonant blood thing is one of those v5 ideas that I don't think anyone has actually gotten working properly in a videogame. Swansong had its won version, and it was kind of lame, there, too.
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>>736018683
>>736018915
Talking of cheating its piss easy to ignore clan lines and have access to all powers. It is just that the limited slots for powers makes it mostly pointless.
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>>736018964
The lead writer said that they wanted to have a confrontation with Lou, but it just didn't happen for whatever reason. She also mentioned that they weren't really happy with how anti-Sabbat Phyre is railroaded into being.
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>>736019158
Two obvious missing endings are:
>you dominate [SPOILER] and kidnap her dark crusade and fulfill the prophecy or w/e
>you submit to [SPOILER] and become her tool as she imagined, except without the other guy for obvious reasons
We already have the city drowning in blood, those couldn't have been too difficult to include. Fight all the house leaders, just as big healthbar 3 round fights, with their class specific skills. All that already is in game mechanically and models-wise.
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>woke activists hijacks old beloved thing and turns it to shit
why does the west keep funding these things?
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>>736019323
If you think VTMB was a game about estrogen, and VTMB2 ruined it by doing estrogen wrong, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>736018683
>>736018830
They still pay you?
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>>736018328
easily
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>>736019158
>She also mentioned that they weren't really happy with how anti-Sabbat Phyre is railroaded into being
Especially when Phyre can be a FUCKING LASOMBRA. I don't think he got the memo that Lasombra are no longer Sabbat during his 400+ year old torpor.
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>>736018326
>the janky medieval dynasty knockoff with vamps
wait huh? what gaem
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The worst first person combat i have ever experienced.
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>>736019430
The one Lasombra NPC is a bodyguard in the hotel and has a chip on her shoulder about proving she's totally not with the Sabbat anymore and she's a good dog now.
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>>736018496
I'm curious. Does that tour acknowledge the objective fact that major employers were just straight up firing almost their entire white workforce and then immediately replacing them with cheap Chinese workers because the Chinese are so used to being treated as a slave class in their native land they were happy to have that happen in the west? Does it actually teach us a little history or is it just anti-western propaganda?

Yes, the massacre was a terrible thing but they tend to categorize this shit today as something just motivated by "racism" when it was pretty much entirely motivated by economics. The mass Chinese immigration genuinely was just hugely driving down wages and standard of living for the area. These people were worried about how they were going to feed their families after they got fired because their employer could hire Chang for half the wages and twice the hours.
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>>736019493
>the massacre was a terrible thing
let's not get carried away now anon

but you are correct. and it wrongly implies the chinese built the whole city
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>>736019358
after the epstein debacle, I'm willing to believe on the russia/china psyop conspiracy
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>>736019445
Vampires: Bloodlord Rising I assume.
You can create yourself a harem of vampire brides because lol lmao.
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>>736019323
WHAT YOUR MOTHER DID WITH ESTROGEN WAS HER BUSINESS
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>>736019358
it's amazing how so much of leftist discourse is just pretending not to understand things
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>>736019621
oh neato
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>>736019430
Doesn't Phyre have some implied pre-torpor falling out history with the Sabbat?
I played Lasombra for about a third of the game until I got bored out of my mind and it did seem to hint at it.
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>>736018830
How has this nigga not walked into a sunrise yet
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>>736019640
What leftist? What discourse?
You posted a joke from the old game, and a reference to that joke in the new game. Disliking the reference, you declared that the west has fallen and billions must die. You are mentally ill.
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>>736019445
>>736019621 has it right
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>>736019430
BL2 has a lot of baggage from its earlier drafts. Playable Lasombra was added super late, and was originally DLC. There's a lot of coulda, woulda, shoulda design and narrative choices that they got locked into.
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>>736019493
I don't remember honestly, I just took the screenshot while playing because I noticed they capitalized White.
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>>736016683
>Reckoning
I WANNA PLAY A HERMIT
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>>736019640
It's the only thing they have. That and screaming that you're not a "real fan" while being completely clueles themselves. Like all these faggots defending new Fable being full of niggers because the series had a couple nogs in it before. I also still laugh at how shills were defending the Gothic demake being censored trash and one of them hit me with "w-why would a work camp have sexy women in it?"
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>>736019712
It's implied, but I don't think the Camarilla should care. He's a 400+ year old Lasombra, he should on Camarilla's shitlist just for security reasons.
That's my big issue with BL2's plot. Everybody's waaaaaaay too trusting of one another. Vampires are supposed to be paranoid fucks.
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>>736019726
A "reference" that turned it into a opportunity to preach. You're proving his point quite expertly.
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I'm glad imbued are gone because I always hated the concept and thought it missed the point of being a hunter, but I do kind of miss the idea of a wayward and the whole thing with god45 stealing a nuke. I want to play a far-gone hunter.
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>>736019726
He's right and you’re pretending to not understand on purpose, despite everyone else fully understanding that the “new reference” is EXPLICITLY AND PURPOSEFULLY framed as though the previous joke needed this gay little disclaimer about how trans is actually a good thing, nigger.
Now go ahead and pretend you have no idea what anyones talking about stupid cocksucking moron.
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>>736019430
I think we are supposed to believe he was always independent/antribu because of the wanderer thing, but having that opinion of sabbat sort of doesn't make sense in general either way.
There are also other sabbat related holes like somehow the secret traitor is a tremere when sabbat tremere niggers literally glow on the dark and were supposed to have been exploded.
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>>736019474
There's layers to what is wrong with the combat. They pushed this game's release date back by a year, and they basically did fucking nothing to fix the feeling of the combat, the pacing, and the way it frequently just becomes chaotic button mashing. The TK mechanics are cool in a Half-Life 2 kinda way, but there's a reason HL2 never had you fighting large numbers of swarming enemies with the gravity gun. It's just not fun.

The tutorials are also shit. Multiple critical mechanics are not actually taught to the player. This is what happens when a game lacks coherent leadership or the leadership are fuckwits.
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>>736019885
We are not playing as the Imbued.
It's Hunters Hunted, but under a fancier name.
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>>736020046
FUCK
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>>736019963
Its a joke about the earlier joke. Do you want them to just repeat it?
The game has a woman turned vampire while pregnant, and her vampire-fetus forever stuck as a fetus, eternally living unborn, and other heavy shit like that. Do you think that's pro-abortion preaching? Or are you selectively outraged by whatever helps you "win arguments" on a hentai forum?
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>>736016560
The """"people"""" who worked on this should be blacklisted from the industry for life, but sadly they will fail upwards and then ruin the next beloved old IP.
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>>736020074
>Do you want them to just repeat it?
all 4chins does all day every day
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So when are we getting a woof RPG?
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>>736019963
NTA, but the delivery in-game makes it clear Fabien is joking about it too, in a "welllll alrighty then..." kind of tone. It's not serious.
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>>736016560
Genuinely might be the worst sequel ever made for a video game.
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>>736020074
Yes, we would much prefer for it to be left intact rather than have tranny preaching attached to it. Stupid motherfucker.
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>>736020197
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>>736020114
>The """"people"""" who worked on this should be blacklisted from the industry for life
Anyone working on the game who complained about how the project was being run or challenged the leadership at The Chinese Room on anything were at pretty strong risk of being blacklisted from the British industry. The Chinese Room has a history of using layoffs to punish dissenters, and getting anyone who kicks up a fuss about that blackballed. The industry is a nepotistic shitshow cartel.
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Seattle's music used to be better amiright guys?
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>>736020074
The “joke” is that trans is normal amd accepted now, bigot.
Fuck off cocksucker, I think trump is doing a dogshit job and is israel’s bitch but id vote for him a billion more times just to piss guttertrash like you off.
Worthless piece of fucking shit.
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>>736020247
Nope. Bloodlines 2 is far worse.
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>>736019971
>when sabbat tremere niggers literally glow on the dark and were supposed to have been exploded.
I can somewhat accept that she SOMEHOW survived the Revised edition, but I won't accept that nobody was keeping tabs on her. She's a Tremere, nobody should trust her by default.
Also, Tremere in Sabbat die very quickly and very violently, because Tzimisce. To the point even the "Sabbat" Tremere aren't technically a part of Sabbat, but a bunch of outliers led by Goriatrix that are loosely affiliated with Sabbat (they do merc work for them usually).
So, yeah, nothing about Safia makes sense.
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>>736020283
disliking a game on 4chan isnt political activism, in case you were confused
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>>736020196
Uh huh. It's always "not serious".
If it wasn't serious, they wouldn't feel the need to add their bullshit to it.
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>>736020074
I'm curious about why Dale was cut so late in development. He was originally a major character in the game, and your "companion". He owned the apartment was a thinblood alchemist. There was something important going on with him that is largely excised from the final product in exchange for a single conversation with him after he is already dead.
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>>736020381
tell that to the game journos
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>>736020352
Safia is cut content. The real Safia is the one you meet during flashbacks, the you meet in the modern day is a Tzimisce
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>>736020426
they cut the thinblood elixirs and just let you unlock all skills yourself
she he'd be a vendor for a system that was removed
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would've enjoyed 2 a lot more if the PC was an utter powertrip desu
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>>736020469
zero ingame reason to think this
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>>736020408
>If it wasn't serious, they wouldn't feel the need to add their bullshit to it.
This doesn't make any sense. They didn't "add their bullshit", they just referenced an old joke and winked at it. I think woke games are a big problem, but you're barking at your own shadow here.
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>>736020529
I think he hasn't played the game, and is just mad at a screenshot he saw on 4chan.
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>>736020529
No, they took this old joke and took it as an opportunity to prech about trannies. You are proving an earlier point.
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>>736020426
Dale probably shows up in the DLCs where you play as the sheriff and black toreador girl. Benny kills him.
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>>736020580
>prech about trannies
They aren't though, it's delivered like "haha what a weirdo well okaaaaay", I don't know what to tell you. When you retarded nignog faggots act like this though it makes discussing actual woke games a lot harder, this is why you have retards that do the "ha, you don't even know what woke means" routine so often, because you have other morons who are constantly in a mouth frothing rage at nothing.

>>736020567
Probably, that's all /v/ is anymore.
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>>736020381
Lecturing your players about why trans is good isn't a “joke” dumbfuck.
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>>736016560
Who?
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>>736020528
Yeah, it's not in the game, that's what cut content is. But that's why her character doesn't make sense, they cut most of it.
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>>736020696
No such lecture occured. You'd know, if you played the game.
You are trying to debate a game you haven't played, with people who have played it.
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>>736020667
No, its delivered like “what Dale decided to do with their own body is their business”
Thats ACTUALLY how its delivered, not your dishonest leftist headcanon.
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>>736020524
The initial moment when you wake up and punch a dude across the room is really nice, and then you never feel that powerful again. Seattle has 25,000 anarch ghouls on every rooftop, and every single one is drinking straight from Caine since they can backhand an elder with no problem.
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>>736020718
Nah, she's consistently doing Tremere shit, including Thaumaturgy. That's not a skillset Tzimisce possesses.
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>>736020718
Her character makes perfect sense.
>she kept her ability to love into undeath
>she loves the old guy
>he discovers the government is doing stuff
>the government kills him for it
>she gets mad and leaves
>she discovers dark powers
>she comes back to take revenge
>its ambiguous if she's in charge or just taken advantage of
Pretty classic story.
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>>736020746
I have 80 hours in this game and that line made me cringe and has zero reason to exist other than to lecture the player on the updated cultural expectations.
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>>736020857
I don't believe you, because you'd have to be a moron to think that, and I doubt a person so stupid could hold a conversation for so long.
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>>736020807
>Nah
It's not up for debate, it's been datamined, she was a Tzimisce named Cemile until they cut it. And giving Thaumaturgy to everyone who wants it is one of many gay, lore destroying things they've done with V5. Nobody has anything special now.
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>>736020898
That's from the Hardsuit Labs, different character and different plot. They didn't even have the detective thing there.
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>>736020898
>Cemile
>turkish name (means beautiful) for the bad guy
>Fyre
>armenian name (meaning fire/light) for the good guy

KEEP YOUR POLITICS OUT OF MY VIJEO JUEGOS
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>>736021083
>phyre
>meaning fire
damn
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>>736020898
It feels to me like the original plot of the game, the big reveal, and the final boss battle revolved around your backstory in Turkey. That Cemile was a figure from your distant past. Maybe you wronged her or she felt slighted by something. Because Safia's connection to the Black Hand and the way she gloats about how The Black Hand has been the source of all your misfortune is very disjointed because Safia doesn't know you or the place you came from. This line made it into the final game, "The Black Hand locked you behind iron doors under Paris, and you only escaped the blade by crawling through sewage. You are no mere survivor. You are the plague rat, the harbinger of wretched misery."

And it's like, "What are you talking about Safia? You don't know me from a bar of soap." Safia keep saying, oh, I read about you, the stories, the stories, she was supposed to know you originally.
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>>736021032
...wasn't Safia based on Elif? And Elif was definately a Tremere.
Also, Jesus fucking Christ, the first skill Tremere learn is determining someone's clan and generation from their blood. That's why you don't pull this shit around the Tremere. It would be ridiculously easy for Phyre or that Primogen lady to determine who Safia really is in a heartbeat.
Unless that's the dumbest Primogen in existance that doesn't keep track of her own kin. AS TREMERE SHOULD.
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>>736020584
Dale was killed by someone he trusted because there was no sign of a struggle in the apartment. It had to be Fabien. There is an odd moment where Fabien in his flashback sorta glitches out for a moment because he can't remember why he knows where Dale lives, and then just shrugs it off.
>>736020857
I actually agree that the estrogen line is dumb. It's one of the few lines in the game that I feel hurt the immersion of the universe.
>>736020807
>>736020898
Safia's story is a little muddled because she is the product of several overlapping rewrites. She was originally Elif, and she was Fabien's minion. (Fabien was the villain.) She eventually evolved into Cemile, a Tzimisce from Phyre's past. This is why a bunch of things kinda point towards Safia being as old as Phyre. Because originally she was. There's even some cut lines from Willem rambling about it. Originally Safia turned into dust after the final boss fight.

The most significant rewrite came when they turned Fabien into a Malkavian detective in 2024. This had huge impacts on the rest of the story and characters. The flashback scenes were added, written by another writer. Gideon didn't exist until these scenes were added. So Safia's motivation was originally something else.

Also, Safia's personality shifts in the game where she starts calling you "my love" out of the blue was originally foreshadowing of her Tzimisce compulsion. She couldn't stop herself talking like that.
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>>736021261
She is written to be a fangirl, reading about your adventures in vampire fiction. You are a rockstar and she's in awe with you and knows all about you.
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>>736019493
>>736019579
the game is more or less implying that Lou imported those chinese to build her an 'authentic' chink-style pleasure palace.
And you can't just let cattle who know where your secret playground for letting your hair down is run around. Traditional ways of non-disclosure agreement were required
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Safia was based on Elif, yes. You can find leaks of Elif naked and covered in blood basically mirroring the final Safia fight, and Elif would have been the bad too. The Cemile stuff comes from TCR, not Hardsuit, you can find cut dialogue for it, Safia is referred to as RealSafia in various files and Cemile in others, etc.
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>>736021348
I would've had the murders plot be a Malkavian detective trying to investigate murders he himself commits, and the government trying to keep it from him, because they are worried how he will react if he discovers it, and using his situation for their scheming.

Bit like Memento, if you've seen it. ANd it would've been a sequel to the Malkavian quest in Bloodlines 1.
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>>736019358
Pathetic deflection attempt
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>>736021480
>I would've had the murders plot be a Malkavian detective trying to investigate murders he himself commits
I kept waiting on that to come and it never did, Fabian is the least insane Malk I've ever seen.
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>>736020896
>you’re dumb, you’re DUMB!!!
Riveting leftist take
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>>736021381
Before the final rewrite where they made her lovesick for Gideon, Safia was a very jaded 400+ year old vampire putting on an act where she pretends she's a scatterbrained, friendly vampire that just loves research. She also hides her true clan.

As the other poster notes the final conversation with Safia about the black hand and stuff reeks of her being directly involved. It's basically the vampire version of "I was always there, Puss," from Puss in Boots.

Also, the fact Safia mutilates herself out of the blue with the carvings on her skin is like... that's a very odd thing for a Tremere to do. Similarly, fleshcrafting an imitation of herself to fake her death is something a Tremere can do, but it's not typical Tremere behavior.
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>>736021680
I specifically wrote that you are not dumb in that post, you fucking retard. I guess I was wrong.
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>>736021465
>it's always the hot, waifubait ones that are evil
When will this fad end?
Hold me, Mandy.
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>>736019726
You are transparent.
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>>736021751
You won the argument long ago, he's just here to shit and piss.
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>>736021751
Actually, you said “if I believe what I wrote I must be dumb”
Anyway this is why all leftists deserve brutal unrelenting violence because when they aren't killed society devolves into this meaningless eternal bickering where they constantly pretend not to understand whats going on.
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>>736016560
I hope the shill that kept insisting that the game would be fixed by modders now has come to his senses, but probably not.
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>>736020352
You could say she just got into sabbat shit but never actually took part in the rites so the curse that should have marked and killed her never activated or she did so only after the event but second is clearly not true because she was planning it for a long time and first is just kinda silly and contrived.
I also think not all lines of tremere were affected by it, but being a cammy it seems pretty unlikely to be descendant of one.
Either way I'd accept some explanation why but none is ever provided and they clearly just forgot it's a thing.
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>>736021664
>I kept waiting on that to come and it never did
Fabien is the rebar killer.

Additionally, you ever notice that the game carefully avoids explaining what Fabien's job is? Like, what exactly does Fabien do? Why does Campbell tolerate him?

The answer is pretty obvious. Fabien is a hitman. He invents this bizarro detective personality for himself because that's preferable to being a murderous sociopath. But the mask slips from time to time. Like when you kill cops and he suddenly chuckles, "The thin blue line just good a bit thinner." And it's like "What?" There's something really off about Fabien. Many of his memories don't match reality. You ever notice that when you play as him, the scent trails Phyre followed in the modern day were completely different? That's because Fabien is full of shit. When he says, "I remember" he is not, in fact, remembering. The Pandora killing is extremely suspicious because his "memory" of the day is just him quoting The Raven. And when you speak to Pandora the shelves are lined with bottles of alcholic with ravens on them.
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>>736016560
you know this was never meant to be called bloodlines 2, right?
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>>736021884
There are some interesting new mods, but most people are waiting to see if they do an SDK. Also, no point trying to mod features that might get added officially.
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>>736016560
It was kino
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>>736021907
The studio strongly objected to the Bloodlines 2 name because they were big fans of the original Bloodlines and felt the game they were making was not going to live up to what a "Bloodlines 2" deserved to be. They wanted to change the name, get this game out the door with a focus on telling a decent story in the VTM universe, and then maybe get the funding to make a more appropriate Bloodlines 2. Paradox refused to listen to reason unfortunately.
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>>736021305
>wasn't Safia based on Elif
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>>736016683
I remember being confused as fucking shit when I played Hunter the Reckoning on the Xbox.
>you're killing monsters by the hundreds out in the streets and in parks
>"just gang violence and animal attacks bro"
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>>736021983
Great final boss (especially imagery-wise), but incredibly fucking abrupt ending.
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>>736021941
Jesus, you're actually still here and still this delusional? The game has next to zero modding activity. The original game is getting more mods uploaded on a regular basis than the piece of shit sequel.
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>>736021894
They directly state what Fabien's job is, to uphold the masquerade, typically through erasing peoples' memories. The detective stuff is his hobby.
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>>736020696
Where is the lecture? It's just a character voicing an opinion.
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>>736022183
>The game has next to zero modding activity.
Given that it's an Unreal Engine 5 game with no mod tools, it's doing better than most. There are way more mods for VTMB2 than for Swansong, which runs on UE4, for example.
https://www.nexusmods.com/vtmbloodlines2/mods/160
>The original game is getting more mods
The original game is moddable.

I don't think you appreciate how hard modding an undocumented UE5 game via Lua scripts where every new patch by the developers breaks all the mods is. And why spend all this time on a mod feature that might get added in an official patch. People worked on the Fabien chapter skip mod, but they added it in a patch. So there's no point modding a new save system into the game because the devs are working on that. There's no point modding guns into the game because there's a chance the devs are working on that. And also the patches keep breaking compatibility with mods.
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>>736021941
There's nothing stopping people from modding every aspect of the game right now other than a mistaken belief that UE games aren't moddable when it's actually the opposite. There just isn't technical knowledge or interest. Every file, every animation and sound, every map, the ability to insert new blueprints, etc. In a lot of ways it's more moddable and documented via UE5 than Skyrim, all it lacks are modders who want to bother. That's something that gets worse with time, not better.
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>>736022179
I didn't mind it, but I kind of wish they had played Safia straight and let me practice the blush of life with her instead of turning her into a villain.
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>>736022254
>They directly state what Fabien's job is, to uphold the masquerade, typically through erasing peoples' memories.
Actually, no, they deliberately skip the scene where Fabien tells Lou what he will do for the court. They vaguely allude to him "helping Benny keep a lid on the masquerade". There is something very wrong with Fabien. The detective thing is a facade. He doesn't actually work as a detective, although he does hang out at the police station. He doesn't actually have an office. The court indulges his detective fantasies.
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>>736022354
You're on a level of copium that I've never seen before. UE5 mods are easy as fuck to make. Especially simple cosmetic swaps, which are what most of the mods were, yet even those people have already given up on. Because the game fucking sucks. It has zero replayability. Everyone has come to this conclusion: VTMB2 is a stain on the reputation of the franchise.
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>>736022374
>Every file, every animation and sound, every map, the ability to insert new blueprints, etc.
Uh, no, it is incredibly fucking hard to write blueprints for a game you don't have the source code for. For example, nobody has been able to figure out how to make the character's head render in third person. All attempts to make a photo mode mod have been stalled by this issue. There's just too much about the game that isn't easily parsable. To properly mod it, people really need the source code for the C++ stuff.
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>>736022685
>UE5 mods are easy as fuck to make. Especially simple cosmetic swaps, which are what most of the mods were, yet even those people have already given up on.
Because there's no point making those mods when each new patch adds a dozen new cosmetics.
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>>736022745
Shut the fuck up, asshole. I can't believe I've let you troll me.
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>>736022685
Bloodlines 2 crashes if you try to add fully custom cosmetics to the game, and nobody knows why.
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>>736022702
Uh, no, that's what you've been told on a discord with 2-3 low IQ techlets who have assured themselves nothing can be done because they and chatgpt can't figure it out.
>well you do it then!
No, I don't feel like it. That's kind of the problem with modding this game, basically nobody does. But you don't need source code given that UE5 already exposes it and you can bet both arms that everything in this game is a blueprint.
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>>736022842
Right, well then explain why nobody is able to add custom clothes to the game. They run into crashing issues.
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fake-chuddy is not even complaining about the right things in his rants.
"Sexwork is real work" stickers plastered everywhere were far more in your face than some castrate pills you have dig around for in an apartment full of shit and ded cat.
Also I am still happy the devs had at least the selfcontrol to leave it just a wry chuckle and confirmation from Fabien on Pyres "Does America have guns?" question
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>>736022045
I think people are really white washing TCR's role in this and trying to make it out like it's all paradox's doing. TCR shipped the game without a real save system. Not everything is the big mean CFO.
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>>736023126
Just be glad that someone at the studio vetoed the Brujah jackets having tranny pride flags on them. (I have the art book.)
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>>736018768
>Hunters tag Nix as Priority Alpha Omega entity
>Basically need entire division to take her out
>Dies to single shitty moonflower
LMAO, rip tho she was cool
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>>736023126
>"Sexwork is real work" stickers plastered everywhere
I guess I'm a little more tolerant of that kind of thing because it's 2024 Seattle. I'm okay with it for the same reason I'm not okay with a bunch of gay blacks in Kingdom Come, I like verisimilitude. A big west coast city in 202X having woke shit and homeless everywhere is fine, if anything it would stand out if they made heckin based 4chan Seattle instead.
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>>736023172
>TCR shipped the game without a real save system.
Why do you think it has taken them six months and they still haven't implemented a save anywhere system? Because it is really hard to do. You can mod the game to save anywhere and it constantly breaks if you do that.

Teyon's Hunter the Reckoning probably won't let you save anywhere either. RoboCop and Terminator certainly don't.
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>>736019368
Wasn't the second game made by a Chinese team?
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>>736016560
No one cared about Bloodlines 2 because it wasn't good but it wasn't terrible either.
Just a safe, mediocre game with a fancy licence attached and a single reference to the first title for nostalgia baiting.
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>>736023350
>it is really hard to do
It's not, pretty much every game does it. This game has a ton of really bad shortcomings that aren't from Hardsuit or Paradox but people just want to handwave it away and pretend like something that $0 budget indie games have is "really hard to do", like I'm asking for them to land on the moon.
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>>736023373
"The Chinese Room" is just company name derive from some philosophy stuff, they are bongs afaik
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>>736023350
It isn't hard to have a system to save anywhere. You store the character's location and every other important variable that you would save during an autosave. You don't even need to save the world state if you don't want to complicate it.
They just coded themselves into a hole by not making it a priority early on to set up. It's not complex.
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Phyre was the original inhabitant of the Ankaran Sarcophagus, shipped off to Seattle by Jack when he replaced her with dynamite.
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>>736021420
>highlighting narrative-friendly atrocities and then reassigning the blame for them to made up vampires
ok but legitimately why does this keep happening with this franchise??
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>>736022840
anti nude mods obviously
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>>736023857
Because that's the franchise, the real world with a twist it was vampires all along is kind of the whole idea.
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>>736023471
>It's not, pretty much every game does it.
No, very few do it.
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>>736023821
By that theory, the mummy in the ending scene of VtMB was just completely random and unrelated to the plot.
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>>736023350
Bruh you can savescum however you want with just a debug command once you have them enabled. I had maybe 1 in 6 of those saves crap out on me because you fall though the floor on reload and that is it.
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>>736019591
Damn straight.
Your family and my family are competing for resources. Your family has all the guns and you have bombs planted under my house. My family can't do anything.
Except convince all your kids that they are homos or the wrong gender and should chop their dicks off.
Also for some reason your family adopted loads of black kids and they're easy to rile up so lets get the white kids fighting the black kids.
Also the chink family two doors down (that you were pointing all your guns at) have jumped in on this now too.
boomers die and then it's GG
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>>736024017
It breaks dialogue, and breaks boss battles, and breaks a lot of other stuff in subtle ways.
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>>736023984
Are you fucking joking? Quicksaving is a staple feature of almost every RPG.
Pokemon has save anywhere and it came out in the 90s. On the fucking Game Boy.
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>>736022137
Old Hunter is pretty bad lorewise
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>>736024038
what does this have to do with video games, you inbred hick
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>>736016683
I'm overdosing on hopium, it seems like it has everything to be a good immsim RPG like Bloodlines.
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>>736024482
Harry Dubois?
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>>736024482
"The Bloodlines 2 we never gotten" is exactly what the devs are aiming at. I hope they have the budget this time around.
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>>736016683
>Hunter
Can't be worse than the CYOAs and I'm a sucker for regular humans killing superhumans
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>>736023172
>I think people are really white washing TCR
It seems that they have some shill or unpaid intern camping /v/ 24/7, every thread there's one poster making excuses for their technical failures.
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It's time to download the Companion mod and do another playthrough, cammie!
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>>736023037
I don't keep up with it, and going too far into it would sort of defeat the point here, which is that I and most people don't care enough about Bloodlines 2 to dive into it. Off the top of my head I would say they're skewing the bone count or not keeping the root hierarchy intact.
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>>736024768
Companions ruin the whole feel and aren't really reactive to anything. Just feels hollow.
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>>736016683
It's the Robocop guys, I actually have confidence in it
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>>736019358
if it didn't matter how did they bother with it
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>>736016683
whats with games having useless subtitles?
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>>736025012
If you just call it "Hunter the Reckoning" google will confuse it and the tabletop game. If you just call it "Deathwish" nobody will associate it with the tabletop brand that Paradox controls.
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>>736024000
literally just some corpse jack dug up
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>>736025012
Hunter the Reckoning is the IP name, there's already a Hunter the Reckoning video game and there's like 15 of them if you count the CYOAs
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>>736021261
The background and life story you choose actually determine what she says at the end when you’re captured. The way I see it, every background is basically canon, just spread across different time periods. In each of those, the Black Hand is either screwing you over or actively hunting you.

Safia knows all of this because she’s essentially your biggest fan, which is why there are already notes about you during the Prohibition-era New Year’s party where you meet Rosalind.
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>>736024950
The best thing about the game are those assets that were likely already in place before TCR came in, I often think about how environmental designers and artists in the game industry are operating at a much higher level than gameplay designers and writers, another example of this would be Cyberpunk 2077, breathtaking Oscar worthy mise en scene wasted on subpar games.
I wonder why that is exactly.
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>>736024934
Was Robocop really this good?
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>>736025267
It was a fun video-game.
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>>736019961
I just hope the game has True Faith with it being reckoning. I'd prefer Vigil but Chronicles setting is basically never ever getting anything again
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>>736018328
how much of that is hopium, and how much is dev confirmed?
Rogue city was okay, and they have to REALLY try to do any worse than BL2
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>>736020247
Man it was fucking stupid of them trying to make all 3 endings from 1 canon
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>>736025417
Vigil was really good, it's the definitive humans against monsters RPG in my opinion, old hunter and H5 are both extremes that go too far in opposite directions, although H5 is decent for what it is, it's just very limiting.
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>>736025430
All of it is taken straight from the dev interview. And thanks to the leak, we've already seen how the stat/skill screen looks like. It's very robust and very much in line with the tabletop/Bloodlines 1.
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They leaked a very early build of the game, it's confirmed unless they cut it later.
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>>736022278
The lecture is from the writer who gave the character that opinion you cocksucking piece of dogshit.
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>>736025576
This character sheet brings so much joy to me, I can't believe I'm allowing myself to be hyped again.
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>>736025576
Nice, time to restring the crossbow or w/e
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>>736021894
Fabien is a good guy though, it would make absolutely zero sense for him to kill all those people. Not to mention the timelines completely don't line up. It's as Fabien says in the end, that shit was orchestrated by Benny, Safia and Ysabella.
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...welp, that's some ambitious shit.
I hope Teyon has the budget for it.
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the leak is so unfinished that it's filled with placeholders so anything could change, but they're on the right track
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>>736024550
*Harrier
"Mr Kain is helping me find my gun!"
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>>736025267
If you like Robocop 1 and 2 it's a great love letter to it, exploring the police station to see where areas that are shown in film connect to one another was really cool to me, and the gameplay was a little repetitive but you really felt like a heavy indestructible robot cop that could blow off a dick with your service pistol from 100 meters in a half second. I love grabbing people and throwing them into the ceiling or out skyscraper windows.
It wasn't reinventing the wheel but I still really enjoyed it. Figure as long as the devs see Hunter as a passion project like Robocop, it's gonna be fun
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>>736025997
You don't need a budget, you have modern tools to make deving cheaper, you just nede talent and passion.
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>>736020256
Proof? Source? anything?
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>>736025543
I love Vigil, it's so good on being easy to run and play, and the system is awesome on being able to have fun playing something like a victim in a slasher film all they way up to somebody like Van Helsing himself if you want a bit more of a powerful character, and they're both equally fun
So naturally they had to kill it and leave us with the OK but not nearly as fucking good nu-Reckoning system because fuck Endowments and shit I guess
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>>736016683
needs more subtitles
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>>736026673
V5 Hunter is basically them just transplanting Vigil back into oWoD. The wits description here >>736025760 makes it sound like you're not actually with the inquisition proper, so you'll be a tier 1 cell vs. their tier 3 conspiracy
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>>736022069
SAFIA is the final boss
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>>736027216
I don't think I get it
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>>736026251
>Figure as long as the devs see Hunter as a passion project like Robocop, it's gonna be fun
The lead dev keeps repeating how much he loves Deus Ex and Bloodlines almost every second sentence in every interview. And I believe him, because even starting with Terminator, the imsim influences were VERY visible.
And the guys in charge of the game's actual narrative and lore are a bunch of Polish neckbeards who have been playing tabletop WoD for a living for 25 years.
So, I am confident they genuinely have the passion for the project.
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>release Q3 2027
There's zero chance of that happening if it still looked like >>736025998 in February
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>>736027596
It didn't look like that in February. That's an old build from before few months ago that has been "accidentally" leaked. The game's way more developed right now.
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>>736027426
Loreniggers, what is this?
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>>736027710
That's an on-shored call center employee from India
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>>736027761
Saar, not all Indians are tree people!
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>>736025110
And where would be have found a mummified body in Los Angeles? Why would it be wearing some fancy shit? Did he dig up a random unrelated corpse, dress it up like a pharaoh, prop it next to him to watch an explosion from the Hollywood hillside just for the hell of it? And not the way more obvious connection that the scene was trying to establish that "oh, the sarcophagus was just a regular old body after all"?
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>>736027975
uhhh there are literally vampires and ghosts in the game and you think its unrealistic to dig up a body lmao anyways that's why all the vampires need to be trans
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>>736027509
Man. Been a long time since I've been kinda excited over a new release, long as it ends up at least a 7/10 for me i won't be disappointed
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>>736027975
>the scene was trying to establish that "oh, the sarcophagus was just a regular old body after all"?
The original meaning in 2004, sure. But TCR at least toyed with repurposing it for 2024.
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>>736028476
That's called a retcon. If you want to suggest that, it'd be a retcon of previous events.
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>>736028859
No, I meant that the character of Phyre was conceived of by Troika in 2004 and they intended for all this to happen, obviously. Retard.
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>>736028951
I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic because that is the dumbest shit you could possibly suggest otherwise. If you want to say they retconned the story, go ahead.
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what if Wraith but it's one of those Sims adventure games
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>>736029229
>assume
Absolute retard.
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>>736025698
He's a malkavian but there's nothing obviously wrong with him, so something must be there
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>>736024934
I for one still remember that hype as fuck final mission of Terminator Resistance. I hope HtR gets something similar for its finale.
Because, holy shit, that music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwBKHkqcHxU
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>>736024146
>Quicksaving is a staple feature of almost every RPG.
Firstly, Bloodlines 2 isn't an RPG. Secondly, literally no VTM games in the past 20 years have quick saving.

None of Teyon's games have quick saving. Hunter the Reckoning Deathwish doesn't currently have quick saving. It is not normal at all, and devs broadly moved away from it.
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>>736029580
I like that. Never played Resistance or the Robocop game, may check them out.
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>makes it sound like you're not actually with the inquisition proper, so you'll be a tier 1 cell vs. their tier 3 conspiracy
Yes, that's baked into the theme of new Hunter, it's not bad in itself, they released some fun story hooks and I like the desperation theme and mechanics, it's just that it's the only way you can play.
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>>736030164
Terminator is really fun. It's a bit jank and you can feel that AA budget, but the game has so much soul and care put into it, especially if you love the Terminator movies.
You even get a waifu and get laid. Twice.
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>>736030503
The devs don't hate gamers, that's all they need to get me hyped and to excuse their limitations.
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>>736017305
Paradox might just publish to get some WoD content out the door
I know they don't want to publish this sort of thing, but it's already in Alpha, so it's further along in development than Hardsuit Labs Bloodlines 2 was
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>>736027596
That was an old build from summer 2025
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>>736016683
Are the Imbued back, This will let me know whether this will be worth my time or not
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>>736031823
Nope, we're a bunch of normies from Vigil.
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>>736031823
I don't think so in H5 however, the trailer had some stuff that made me think the imbued will be in-game
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>>736031908
>>736031967

Thank you based hunterchads for the info I will keep my eyes on this
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>>736031823
no, thankfully
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>>736031823
>>736031967
Here's the excerpt from the interview:

>How familiar are you and your team with the TTRPG and the larger World of Darkness setting?
>Łatocha: I personally played a lot of the original [Vampire: The Masquerade] Bloodlines game. I love that one, but I didn’t play the tabletops actually. But we have a lot of guys in the studio that are huge fans. They know the lore from scratch.

>I didn’t actually know the older Hunter: The Reckoning video games – I just learned about them when we started this one. But that was a different approach, because it was more like a beat ’em up action thing, and we’re going full RPG.

>We definitely wanted to take an approach much closer to that of the original Bloodlines. So it’s the same world, based on the new 5th edition of Hunter: The Reckoning. It changed a bit because in the old [editions] they play characters who are “imbued” with special abilities. Whereas in 5th edition, there are some more general people who need to fight a stronger enemy, so they need to group into so-called cells. In our game, you belong to one of those cells.
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>Active in the Paradox forum day 1 begging them to do a faithful sequel and abandon the whole named/voiced protag with a voice in the head bit
>Get ignored by the devs and mocked by the Paradox dickriders
>After 3 months of trying to change their mind I give up
>Game releases and flops
I hope they all get fired, it's what they get for not listening to me.
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>>736032130
official forums are nearly always worse than /v/ and that's a hell of an accomplishment
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>>736032090
Okay, I was just basing on some background stuff in the trailer rather than any hard evidance
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>>736032090
>How is the gameplay generally structured?

>Łatocha: It’s a first-person game. We expanded a bit on the RoboCop: Rogue City formula, but this is a slower game with some investigation, with some romance options, companion bonding, a branching story, very different side quests, and very different approaches to solving problems. I believe it’s the best way to approach a cool RPG game. I would also say it’s a semi-open world game, where you have the main quest line, and then you have a lot of different side quests that you can take on. The main quest follows a rather linear path, but of course it has some branches. You can also build the bond with the companions you have, and you can influence their personal stories, so they can end up with totally different states by the end of the game.
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>>736016683
Hey guys remember when we had a million of inorganic Bloodlines 2 threads where shills kept downplaying the problems inherent to Paradox's rebooted version of the setting while focusing entirely on the past resume of the developer, heaping constant and unconditional praise on them?

Remember when every single concern about what was shown was brushed aside and ignored while shilling developer statements?

Remember when that game turned out to be an awful piece of trash, immediately memory holed and even the typical streamers and reviewers that like every piece of corporate unrealslop were struggling to say something nice about it?

No? Only me? seriously I have no clue what you fucks see in that trailer. It looked like painfully generic unreal 5 trash. It's also built off of the worst version of Hunter, a glorified pamphlet with less rules and options than a supplement for Vampire from 1992. No you can't convince me the devs will just magically ignore everything shit about WoD5, this exact same rhetoric was used for Bloodlines 2 and that game sucked. I'm getting deja vu.
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>>736032429
>remember when we had a million of inorganic Bloodlines 2 threads
No. I do remember some greasy, obese terminally online faggots who speak in meme pidgin convincing themselves that anyone who talks about video games on the video game board is a "shill" desperately working to capture the most prized advertising demographic on earth: unemployed neet pirates with no social circle.
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>>736032429
not him, and I can't say I lurked every single thread, but that certainly reads like gaslighting
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>>736026919
>V5 Hunter is basically them just transplanting Vigil back into oWoD

No, not even a little bit. First, it's not being put back into oWoD, because Paradox's WoD isn't oWoD. If you squint and are retarded, maybe you could confuse V5 with VtM, but with the rest? Fuck nah. W5 is an entirely different game. I didn't even like WtA.

Secondly, Hunter the Vigil has options for playing as an independent nobody hunter, a member of a regional at best mundane organization (a compact), or a large and powerful organization with some sort of X-Factor like actual supernatural powers or highly advanced technology. H5 only has options for playing a random shitter.
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>>736032752
>First, it's not being put back into oWoD, because Paradox's WoD isn't oWoD
That's what oWoD means, it isn't some invitation for your grievance schizo shit retard.
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>>736032429
Of course i remember it because the same deranged faggot who has an unreasonable amount of information about that piece of shit spammed the same shitty threads daily and spent hours talking to himself and trying to make it seem like there was discussion around it and that people were excited for it. And lo and behold when it was a confirmed flop he disappeared. Hopefully he killed himself like everyone said he should. As for this, by the way that one faggot responded to you already I’d say we will have a repeat of that. Whether paid or free shills will always be cancer especially when they try to make it seem like them sucking off a game which they have not only never played but isn’t even fucking out yet and trying to act like the general modern industry standard is not to pump out the most abysmal dogshit. And of course the cope will always be to cry about negativity while ignoring anything they can’t argue and just say that the people saying shit they don’t like will never be happy or some other gay damage control narrative like that. Normally i wouldn’t care but shills (especially on this board) are fucking cancer and are the most pathetic vile subhumans to every be shat into this beautiful world of our and act as what is effectively a curse upon any medium.
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Some of the most obvious samefagging I've seen in the last thirty minutes.
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Honestly as a tabletop fag even if they were okay video games, I still wouldn't buy them. I don't want to financially support the company that ruined my favorite tabletop IP. I wouldn't even pirate them because I'd constantly be getting aggravated by V5-isms that'd take the fun out of my playtime. If you've ever had an IP you liked ruined, I'm sure you understand. Can't in good conscience support the people degrading it.
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Oh it’s this faggot, are you going to gush to yourself about Gaybien and say how your shitty reddit detective poochie who never shuts the fuck up is actually a good character next you pathetic shit eating subhuman? Is this part of the “contrarian wave” you said you would start?
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The schizo will now post his collection of screenshots from various anons that he has condensed into a single nemesis anon for the purposes of his one-sided internet feud with nobody, treating a once peaceful thread as his litterbox and therapy session.
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>>736033501
>screencap of his pathetic declaration gets posted
>has to start crying schizo and getting mad to cope
Reminder that this retard did this shit for months and that its all in the archive. And that he is trying to say that all of that is crazy while getting unreasonably mad at something that apparently has nothing to do with him. A normal person would have just said "I am not the shill" but this desperate faggot not only went right fot ad hominem but has to say there is not shill at all.
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Of course, I am secretly nemesis anon. I've been sent here by AdvertisingCo to convince pirates with no disposable income to discuss a game 2+ years away, but I was no match for the superior wits of hecking based anon and his screenshots and his fallacy bingo card. I'm sure over the next few years I, the nemesis anon, will be spotted in 2-3 threads every day.
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ONE OF YOU EMBRACED THIS FUCKER
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I should be able to embrace Heather Poe
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>>736033989
Again this is how you can spot a shill, they never just say "no I am not a shill" they have to say the very idea of shills being here is crazy. Meanwhile shit like what this faggot has been trying to do has been going on for over a decade.
>inb4 noooo that doesnt count
> his screenshots and his fallacy bingo card
He really hates that people remember his bullshit and can post it since he figured he would do that gay contrarian shit completely unhindered. Maybe don't spam the same threads daily for five months. Also you started this with ad hominem.
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Again, this is how you spot unfalsifiable and untested accusation, they never engage in the behavior that a schizo says they should engage in just because, instead they engage in the behavior that a schizo says they should never engage in because...well, because they just wouldn't, okay? Nemesis anon uses periods, and this other guy did too, and therefore I know I have once again spotted nemesis anon, and I will file this away in my mind for future reinforcement about how great I am at spotting nemesis anon.
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>>736034504
So you go from trying to say that the idea if shills being here is crazy back to ad hominem trying to say I am crazy for pointing out how you have been shilling shit for a while. Even though you went fucking nuts when a single screencap was posted (which you didn't deny was you come to think of it you just started crying schizo).
>Nemesis anon uses periods, and this other guy did too
Except what I am calling you out for is specific shit and when brought up and shown you started having this fit.
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Damn, I almost got away with it but you were just too darn hecking based. Everyone who talks about a video game on the video game board is shilling, and they're all me, the Shillmeister. My evil plot to discuss video games with people who still feel the capacity for joy and human thought were dashed once again by [insert inapplicable fallacy here] and screenshots of people (I mean me) talking about other games. The real Hunter was you all along.
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well if someone is shilling: good job today, you got a wishlisting.
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>>736016560
Shill threads were funny.
I remember baiting one of them until he left to seethe and you could see the other guy instantly posting instead.
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>>736035479
He's going to type a hole into his keyboard for that one
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>>736033313
WoD has been shit on by everyone that got their hands on it, it's a setting with a lot of cool ideas and concepts, but even most of the oldschool writing is downright bad, and now that we have some people that have a chance of doing something cool with it, you decide to take a moral stand against it?
At least wait for the game to come out and try to judge it on its own merits, if you actually care about the setting you'll only hurt it by taking this absolutist stance.
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>>736035185
>Damn, I almost got away with it but you were just too darn hecking based
He has to act flippant and pretend he isn't taking this seriously because he has lost control. Which is retarded since he is continuing to flip out and make these passive aggressive tantrum posts where he alternates between crying how shills don't exists here and crying schizo.
>everyone who talks about a video game on the video game board is shilling
And here is the strawman, which is funny since I never said this and just pointed out how some faggot was shilling VtMB 2 for months and gave an example of shills on /v/. But he has to say this is what was said because he is fucked and knows it.
>My evil plot to discuss video games with people
Except you are not doing that, you tried shilling shitty DLC for a even shittier game and when you were called out as a shill you started going into the same defensive insecure bullshit you did in the other threads and that every shill goes into whenever they get called out.
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>>736033373
Oh yeah i remember that fag, shame I figured he fucked off.
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>>736035479
>>736035712
samefag
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>>736035917
nope
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>>736035941
I know what inspect element is homo.
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>>736035996
You don't, but you know it's the scripted standard reply here.
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>>736036059
>You don't
>doesnt deny using it
I do it is something in the browser which lets you alter the elements of a page. Like say deleting or adding text. Its used by samefags to get rid of (You)s.
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>>736016683
Time to Bachmaxx again...
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>736035793
I think I'm going to deliberately post some advertising-sounding VTMB threads for the next few days just to see how far into the insanity hole this guy can be driven. Remember to post the screenshot of this post so everybody knows you're in on the shilling and aren't just a terminally online schizo autist with a special topic.
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>>736036175
You looked that up pretty fast. What actually happens is that low IQ people randomly accuse others of "samefagging", and then when proof is provided they use the canned scripted reply of something something inspect element to try and save face. One thing of many that makes talking on nu-/v/ such a chore.
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>>736019963
You are genuinely mentally ill or retarded or possibly both.
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>>736035761
The setting has been changed into something I don't like. Did you read my post? I said even if the game is decent, I won't be able to enjoy it with all the ParaWoD-isms constantly popping up. Of course I take a moral stance against people putting out a skinsuit version of a setting I like and actively writing over the old material.

>but even most of the oldschool writing is downright bad,
Fuck off. Even the worst of oWoD was better than the crap they're putting out now.
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>>736036185
>>736036262
Do you ever get tired of this desperate shit? Like having to constantly sperg out like this because people have pattern recognition and then spend hours gaslighting and going into the most deranged copes and getting super fuck ass mad at something that would have been written off by like anyone else? I mean seriously who the fuck say shit like this?
>I think I'm going to deliberately post some advertising-sounding VTMB threads for the next few days
Like how fucking mad have I made you just pointing out shilling that you decided to do this? No regular anon would do this? Its not even about the reasoning but the effort alone? Like Imagine trying to pass off some dude calling you a shill as a reason to carry on some shit from days ago? And it all just boils down to you saying you will shill the game "ironically" to troll which is still shilling so in the end it just comes off as a huge cope.
>, and then when proof is provided they use the canned scripted
Post a webm of you refreshing the page, the edited elements are reset when you refresh, you are already going to all this effort to cry about it so that should be nothing.
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>>736026919
>makes it sound like you're not actually with the inquisition proper, so you'll be a tier 1 cell vs. their tier 3 conspiracy
WoD5 is pretty big on not working for anyone but yourself. They create this big coalition made up of generic spooks instead of OG hunter groups (these got lore raped btw) and won't even let you join them. If M5 ever comes out you'll probably be reduced to crafts or being all on your own.
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I miss the late 90s so fucking much
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>>736036627
Let's pretend that the game comes out and it's good, do you support the devs which are themselves just fans that decided to do something about it or do you maintain your defeatist stance and condemn wod to even further obscurity?
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>736036645
Your pattern recognition skills are truly unmatched. My evil shill campaign to capture the spending money of neets was no match for your superior skills.

But no, in all seriousness I just get tired of the way every other thread on this board turns into some low IQ spiritual african shitting his britches and shouting about imaginary shills, and his "proof" is always some other time he shit his britches and shouted about shills, it gets old. I know you're too retarded to understand though, I don't even know why I bother to explain other than the simple catharsis of telling the truth about what an annoying faggot you are. Anyways, back to mocking you.
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>>736036717
>won't even let you join them
if you're talking about the tabletop nobody is really stopping you, you don't have to run the premades. its just them trying to sell you another pdf for the hunter: big org edition later.
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I don't know about you guys, but I' just fantasizing about the available Hunter waifus.
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>>736036858
I don't know these devs personally so I can't trust that they're fans. Every developer says they're fans, people making crappy remakes of films say they're fans. No appeal to the devs is going to convince me. I'd honestly question their tastes as "fans" if they'd willingly work with the people that ruined the IP.

I fail to see what's defeatist about this. If I give them my money, Paradox gets a cut. Paradox now has more reason to hold on to the IP rather than sell it to someone else, or put it on ice. It's far more defeatist to accept a mediocre skinsuit of the setting.

Corporations are bad for IPs. Tabletop settings are inherently mutable. Tabletop settings don't die if a new licensed product isn't coming out every quarter. Far from it, they become more prosperous than ever because a company isn't dictating what can and can't be made. Look at H.P. Lovecraft and what a second life his works got from being public domain. That's what I want for all fictional settings.
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>>736037053
>But no, in all seriousness I just get tired of the way every other thread on this board turns into some low IQ spiritual african shitting his britches and shouting about imaginary shills
Not a nigger, also I posted evidence of there being a shill for vtmb2 and that shilling happens on the board and all you can do is bury your head in the same while also getting unreasonably upset that I did that.
>and his "proof" is always some other time he shit his britches
Except its not, first I posted a screencap from another thread where a shill (you) said you would continue shilling a shit game after it was out and you got super buttmad about that and the next was a screencap of a shill from a a decade ago.
>Anyways, back to mocking you
Is that what you have to call you trying to smug mask your way through this? Because so far this has just been you frantically crying and spewing copes while tear them down.
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>>736037241
Woofus
Mokoléfus
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>>736037341
>I'd honestly question their tastes as "fans" if they'd willingly work with the people that ruined the IP.
I'm a big fan of Star Trek. If Paramount gave me the chance, I'd do my best to make a great Star Trek game just to try and rescue it from the morons who want to make shows about Klingons that suck dicks. NTA you're talking to but this mindset seems insane to me. A real fan would, if given the opportunity, try to rescue the thing they like, not leave it to eternal redditorism.
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>>736037241
Anon, I know what kind of waifu you're thinking about. If you even think about not killing whatever you run into you're not a real hunter.
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Make sure you take a screenshot of me saying I work for AdvertisingCo and I am here to shill Hunter the Reckoning to the pirates of /v/ so you can have future schizo episodes where you notice "me" in several threads a day.
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At least you guys have to deal with loon today and the owlcat thread is pretty peaceful
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>>736037506
Hunter women are generally going to be physically active tomboy types, so sweaty, hairy, unkempt, not good waifu material. You need to get yourself ghouled by a Toreador girl.
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>>736037624
for now, they'll bounce back over when Expanse releases
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>>736037561
>Make sure you take a screenshot of me saying I work for AdvertisingCo and I am here to shill Hunter the Reckoning to the pirates
The shill now has to try and push a new narrative to cope with getting btfo. Which is retarded since everything he said is here in the thread and it started with him shilling the DLC for the shitty sequel to VtMB
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>>736037624
What loon?
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>>736037625
>You need to get yourself ghouled by a Toreador girl.
Well, I knew it but I tried to give you a chance.
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>>736037506
NGL my first thought on reading his post was
"Or if we get any bad endings that are nearly worth it"
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Hey guys, authentic fellow gamer here, did you know that the hit video game Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines 2 has even MORE of the exciting vampire adventure we all crave coming soon? It's true! Preorder your DLC today! Play Bloodlines 2, Bloodlines 2 is fun, don't walk, RUN!
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WoD has always just been "shit version of AD&D Ravenloft", honestly. The urboid setting is just gutter trash.
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>>736037825
Most vampires are evil, sure, but she's different. You don't know her like I do.
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>starts "ironically" shilling game
>filename shows he still seething hard
lol, this nigger is still going after fucking months of failure.
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>>736037493
You're high if you think they're coming to these guys and going "please save us, here's a blank check do whatever you want!". There's already the mark of V5 on it, we've seen as such in the trailer. They're not going to be allowed to ignore and retcon away all the foundational problems with Paradox's WoD.

In case you are unaware, Paradox cancelled all oWoD and nWoD/CofD books on the tabletop front. This isn't "the new stuff sucks" this is "the old stuff was actively stopped by the publisher and in some cases is being wholesale retconned and replaced."
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When will it hit ps plus/gamepass?
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>>736038140 (You)
Oh wow, I can't wait!
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>>736038140
>throwing more money into a burning money pit
This is some kind of money laundering, isn't it?
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>>736038215
If they aren;t evil then why does my True Faith in God burn them? Checkmate demons.
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>>736038283
>f you think they're coming to these guys and going "please save us
Nobody said they were. If I'm a fan and I think I have a real chance to get the IP and do something cool with it, obviously I would. I have no idea how to make a TV show so I can't just approach paramount, but if I made two moderately successful games and I knew the vampire game they bought the whole IP for turned to shit I might take a shot and see if they'd let me make something cool with it.

I'm not saying it pay for it today, wait to see if it's good, a lot can happen between now and then, I just think this attitude of not playing it even if it's good is terminally online dumb shit.
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>>736038208
Fair, I'd take old editions Ravenloft over one a modern setting. But no way I am suffering anything that post2000 WotC had any influence in.
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>>736038208
>AD&D Ravenloft
dog shit
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>>736027710
A retarded Samedi or some kind of Wyrm pollution husk
(I only know 1st edition lore no need for anything else)
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>>736027710
what were the chaff enemies called in the old xbox games?
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>>736038717
zombies I think
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>>736038529
You seem to be missing the part where I said even if it was a good game (as in gameplay and stuff) I couldn't enjoy it because of the V5isms.
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>>736038921
>You seem to be missing the part
>the part is the thing being discussed for several posts
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>>736035761
Alfabusa and the gang made something good out of it.
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>>736038372 (You)
I can't wait to tell my huge social media circle that us /v/ anons are known for all about my latest Vampire adventures. One could say it's "in my blood", hahahaha, HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>added Oct 21 2025
This tard actually has the season pass and git it when the game released no less
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Do Hunters have any cool holy powers or are they just badass normal human beings?
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>>736038978
So you're telling me to like something I dislike because the developers might be fans of the IP? We've seen the V5 stuff in the trailer. Minute I saw Hecata mentioned I knew it wasn't for me.
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>>736039343
There is True Faith and the Edges but I don't know if they got rid of the latter.
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>>736039445
>So you're telling me to like something I dislike
No. I was telling you something totally different. Now I'm not telling you anything, I'm just sort of looking off into the distance and wondering why I bother coming here anymore.
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>>736039053
Eh, HtP is okay and it's largely held back by its WoD5isms. That and they wrote themselves into a corner.
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>>736039343
They used to, hopefully not here. Giving hunters supernatural powers was always stupid, the entire fantasy is being a human outmatched by a monster and still pulling it off.
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>>736039593
>That and they wrote themselves into a corner
How so?
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Did they ever update it so you could bang vampire christina hendricks (or even Ryong) and/or romance / side with the scientist?
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>>736039541
You were saying I should give the game a chance, and buy it if it is good. I explained I would not enjoy it even if it were technically competent, because it includes the V5 inclusions and retcons. I also stated that I want to boycott Paradox's WoD products to disincentivize their continued ruining of the setting. If they were to start greenlighting actual oWoD or even nWoD/CofD stuff, I'd fucking pre-order it in a heartbeat.

What point are you trying to even make?
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>DEI dev team
>everyone predicts it's shit
>released
>it's shit
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>>736033061
Okay good, I'm not going crazy.
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>>736039896
>What point are you trying to even make?
Something extremely clear and made already several times, but because I'm making it on /v/ I might as well be standing outside a monkey exhibit at the zoo and trying to argue the point there.

Every fucking thread is just retards and ESLs, and you can hardly tell who doesn't get it because they're stupid and who doesn't get it because they don't even understand the language. But either way you get a ton of these "so you're saying", "you were saying", "by that logic", "that means" and so on and always followed by nonsense. It's exhausting and I unironically don't know why I come here except for habit anymore. You people are just so fucking dumb.
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>>736039895
Vampires can't bang, they're dead.
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>>736039679
>Quadratic numbers of characters and plotlines when they can't manage even a monthly update schedule.
>Clear unwillingness to kill any of these characters off or to start closing said plotlines.
>Big D the Fraud.

They jumped the gun and introduced a new splat and a half-dozen new plotlines before resolving any of their previous ones. Now the story is moving in slow motion where a single night has stretched for over a year. Makes for very unsatisfying watching and they're not making any moves to start untangling things.
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>>736040124
You can absolutely bang and that's not counting shit like blush-of-life and other abilities Hell, even in Bloodlines2 the player character can bang most of the trainers including the gay biker,the old lady, the art hoe, the nigress lasombra etc. There are fade to black sex scenes with all of them with voiceovers.
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>>736040068
Have you perhaps considered that nobody understands you because you're not very good at conveying your point?

Either way I accept your concession.
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>>736040290
that's just blood drinking not sex
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>>736036858
By what he said it sounds like he still wouldn't buy it. Also its not defeatist to have a vote of no confidence when it comes to the modern game industry. I mean good games are the exception not the norm these days and when it comes to WoD its especially cursed.
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>>736040068
stop whining and being a fag
nobody fucking cares that you're a retard who though the game might be decent, and you don't need to post poetry about staring into the middle distance
you deserve to be beaten with a pipe and it's not 4chan's fault, it's yours
go back to your fucking discord or wherever you learned to talk like that you fucking idiot loser, you're sickening
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Hunter is unironically the least hit by the V5 retcons. Because 90% of the time, the hunters don't even know what vampiric clans are.
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>>736040339
Hunter was unironically hit harder you dipshit. All of the cool hunter organizations were swallowed by the gay ass Second Inquisition, and H5 only has extremely basic rules for playing typical indie street hunters. Hunters Hunted had more content than H5.
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>>736037625
>physically active ... hairy, unkempt
One does not imply the other, it's just your fetish.

Not so mention any military organization requires command center staff, public relations, medics, nowadays also drone operators, etc.
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>>736040321
....that's literally not the case. You don't pull out something like
>Here's something I learned in Capaddocia before the fall of Byzantium
during the fade to black if it was only drinking blood. The nigress lasombra also goes on and on about making phyre submissive to her sexually , the old lady talks about not having done this/been desired for an agetc et. Not to mention that drinking blood from each other has too many risks for vampires in this setting - it brings you close to a blood bond, and risks diablarism.
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>>736040314
>>736040331
>Have you perhaps considered that nobody understands you because you're not very good at conveying your point?
I considered it, but it's not true. The point is conveyed plainly and it's easy to understand. It's just that most of you are really stupid. This is evident all over this thread, but also all of /v/ and really all over the site as a whole. Most of you can't form a sentence without gay meme language, and hardly any of you can understand a sentence sent back to you in reply. The average person here is hardly a person at all, and one might have better luck conversing with their lunch than in trying to coax English out of the average anon.
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>>736040629
>I'm sad, in the five years I've coming to /v/, things have really gone down hill!
you're cancer
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>>736040629
lmao then leave already, butthurt fag.
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>>736040230
I get what you mean but TTS ended being in a similar place while it was still running. I think part of the issue is that they have to both introduce shit to the audience as well as the cast and they to have a complex narrative. Right now we are still on the Ghoul plotline to figure out what is happening with the Camarilla but now a woof got into the mix and Marc was dognapped. So they will have to get him back before continuing, though I feel like that will be resolved fast. There is a lot of set up, but I mean things need to be set up? I know it takes a while but if this were a regular tv show it would be what like a few episodes into S1?
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>>736040697
>>736040732
>thing nobody said or indicated, but in green!
A good example of what I mean. No, I've been coming to /v/ for about as long as there has been a /v/, and yes it has gone downhill tremendously. But even your strawman is retarded, much as you are, because /v/ HAS visibly gone downhill in the last five year. It has gone downhill just in the last year. As more and more of the third world comes online and they flood these discussion spaces in an attempt to practice their English, conversation becomes impossible because you can't discuss ideas without first teaching Sanjay the entire language the ideas are conveyed in. It's an impossible task. I'm not saying you're Sanjay for sure, just that you're possibly Sanjay, or possibly so dumb that you behave indistinguishably from somebody who doesn't speak English. It doesn't really matter which, the impact is the same. Talking to you inbred retards is like trying to talk to an old shoe.
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>>736040908
>a thing nobody said or indicated
>"I'm just sort of looking off into the distance and wondering why I bother coming here anymore."
you're a fucking FAG and you should kill yourself
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>>736040741
I agree but
>though I feel like that will be resolved fast.
Is in its own way unsatisfying. They spend a lot of time hyping up werewolves, arguably to the point of sucking their dick a little too much, just having them die and be swept under the rug is in its own way unsatisfying.

I just think they really mangled things with how they introduced all the werewolf shit and it'll take a lot of time and effort to unmangle it.
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>>736041060
>a thing nobody said or indicated
>an unrelated quote, apparently meant as some sort of rebuke
Fascinating, and again a good example of what I mean. Did you screw that post up because it was a real zinger in your native language, and something to lost in translation? Or are you just kind of dumb, and didn't understand the meaning of the words you were trying to use? It's impossible to tell with the information I have, but it doesn't really matter either, the result is the same either way: a retarded, tedious post. Like a teardrop into the ocean of retarded, tedious posts that you and people like you have made of this place.
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>>736041234
Explain what I screwed up and where the ESL-ness even is, and how you're not a fag for posting something like that in the first place.
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>>736025508
Maps as cozy and large as a Tropico bunkhouse definitely didn't help, but trying to make a big Unreal 2.0 game like IW play nicely with Xbox-amounts of RAM on ALL platforms didn't help either. VTMB2 not causing claustrophobia is a plus
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>>736041158
I don't think they will kill Mathilde either Marc escapes on his own or he convinces Mathilde to let him go. She pretty much failed her mission and probably took Marcus in hopes to get something from him or some shit.
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>>736041307
>Explain what I screwed up
I did, in the second green line. Can you see it on your screen? I'd ask you if there's a better word for "green" in your language, but I guess your translation software would just lose that too, so what's the point? It kind of just goes back to what I said about not being able to discuss points or ideas here because so much time has to be wasted trying to teach you the language that points or ideas are expressed in. Every conversation gets bogged down because one of you needs me to do the job of a multi-year public education program, in a language you barely understand if at all, and in less than 2,000 characters. It's a hell of a tall order. And in the meanwhile the board becomes littered with retardation and jeetisms, and apparently anyone simply making an exasperated note of this angers the source of said retardation and jeetisms who then start tard posting profusely. "Saar, explain at once needfully!" or "Durr hurr um ermm uh u explain kek!", over and over, forever. Imagine trying to fruitfully talk about video games in an environment like that. Imagine trying to talk about anything. You might as well try touching the moon.
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>>736038140
MORE DOF
MORE CHROMATIC ABBERATION
MORE TAA
GIVE ME MORE
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>>736041594
>unrelated
you typed some tumblr gay fag shit and expect to be taken seriously
paragraphs don't help
you sound like a fag, and calling you a fag isn't "ESL" no matter how much you might wish to dismiss my critque
you are a fag
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>>736041505
>not killing the werewolves
>after they trashed the arcanum's place and invoked all their Temu Second Inquisition pals + Pentex
>the notoriously unreasonable werewolves just let a hunter go
>now we have a whole pack of those fuckers running around with their own plotline, further gumming up the works.

Bro that's so much worse. We already have Kevin operating effectively independently from the rest of the cast, we don't need the adventures of dumbass werewolves eating up time and resources.
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>>736016683
Teyon's pretty decent. I just wish they could get away from (((Nacon))).
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>>736041679
>paragraphs don't help
I'm sure they don't. You're unable to read or think very well, there's no magic formatting that might fix that. I can't punctuate according to some magic incantation and suddenly abracadabra you're a real boy. That's sort of the problem we've been talking about, or I've been talking about and you've been howling over. We've come full circle, as these things always do, over and over and over again with you "people", hence why it's so tedious to deal with anymore.
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>>736041889
this whole deflection might work if you were actually willing to be hateful toward your phantom ESLs, you're being weirdly evasive and it seems like you don't want to say a "slur" or whatever
which would track with your gay poetry earlier and the fact that you were arguing why VTMB2 could've been good
like I said before, maybe this works on your discord, but not here
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>>736030020
>VTM games in the past 20 years
Have all been visual novels, a battle royale, and a VR tech demo. Nothing that normally has a dedicated quicksave key.
Manual saving anywhere and quick saving are not a lost fucking art. Cyberpunk 2077 has it.
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>>736042048
90% of what you wrote is some kind of non sequitur, either about other people, or things that never happened, and none of it really flows together. Is it because you're ESL and are trying to express an idea in an unfamiliar language that you used incorrectly? Is it because you're just subpar in the brains category? Impossible to know. All I can really know is the feeling of emptiness that comes from talking to you, which feels ridiculous, like talking to a bird. Not exactly a crow either, if you know what I mean. But of course you don't.
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>>736041719
Woofs are pain in the ass to deal with and they only have an idea of where their Cairn is. Not to mention there is only one woof we have seen so far, one we heard, and one we have heard of. So that’s three in total and it was more or less just to introduce them. The same will be the case to Inquisition. They will show up, do some shit and show the important players, then leave. Not to mention that Kevin shit will tie back into everything given he is effectively D’s Malcador.
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>>736042215
no
>"I'm just sort of looking off into the distance and wondering why I bother coming here anymore."
you're a fag
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>>736018328
>It is supposed to have vampries
Yea, you kill them not play as them.
>tabletop stats autism
To the extent that VTMB did seemingly
>im-sim mechanics
Probably on the same level as VTMB and Deus Ex HR/MKD but don't expect it to be much more than that
>branching paths
This hasn't been 100% confirmed and is highly unlikely it will be anything big even if
>romances, waifus, sex and nudity.
It will be Terminator Resistance levels of it, don't expect much
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>>736042301
>nothing ever happens

Man can I take a hit of the copium pipe you're hitting? Because what you put forward is just going to further draw things out. We need to close plotlines, not unsatisfyingly postpone them.
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>>736042417
Your flailing attempts at English certainly haven't answered the question. Why do I bother coming here anymore to listen to "people" who are basically barely literate pig-men squeal about whatever meme or retardation got into their head today? Is it habit? Boredom? Some sense of burden towards those less fortunate, some last ember of hope that one of you might develop into an IQ somewhere in the 80s and become capable of rudimentary conversation besides "t." and that sort of trash?

I don't know. I just know how tired it makes to say "two and two is four" and have one of you start saaring and insisting I said it was five, or "so you mean" and all that stuff. Really saps the soul.
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>>736042643
>someone was mean to me, therefore everyone is ESLs and I've having an existential crisis
no
you're just a fag
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>>736038496
iirc True Faith doesnt work on high humanity vampires according to lore (VTMB notwithstanding)
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>>736018342
>sweaty tomboys that don't shave, so I'm skeptical
Why are you gay
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>>736042510
Where the hell do you get nothing ever happens from? We had a fucking woof fight/reveal in the last episode. Shit is happening but it just isn’t going to be all bombastic. I mean we are still early in the story as a whole.
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nta, but
>"ugh, you foolish idiot lummoxes can't understand me, why do I even come here anymore? I should just leave..."
>refuses to leave

I think this guy's just a troll.
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>>736042710
I see you've entered the phase where you've become angry, and begin repeating the same phrase over and over again as though you're stuck. Very typical of a certain group of people, we've all seen the videos, and gives me some insight on whether I'm dealing with an ESL or a moron, not that it really matters I guess. All I can do is yawn.
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>>736042771
>The same will be the case to Inquisition. They will show up, do some shit and show the important players, then leave.

I feel like I'm talking in circles here. We're "early in the story as a whole", yeah. But it updates so slowly that it really should be less bloated, and focus on resolving plotlines rather than opening new ones/leaving extant ones for later. When you already have a slow update schedule, don't do things that slow the pace of your story down.
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>>736042818
Or he could be pretending to troll so he can make it look like he didn’t embarrass himself.
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>>736042824
>>736042710
SCHIZO VS FAGGOT FIGHT, LETS GOOOOOO, RACEWAR NOW!!! WOO!!!
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>>736043106
Samefagging to reply to "nta" is embarrassing
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>>736043063
It only seems bloated because of the time between, watching it all in succession it doesn’t feel off. This is only an issue now since we have to wait for it. As it is all of the stuff going on fits within the space of the narrative without being too much. Again TTS was the same it front loaded a lot of shit but as it went on it managed to deliver on a good portion and build up to something and only ended because of corporate fuckery.
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>>736042824
>U GOT ME FUCKED UP
>U GOT ME FUCKED UP
>U GOT ME FUCKED UP
>U GOT ME FUCKED UP
>U GOT ME FUCKED UP
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>>736037241
Battle nun is my hope but it won't happen. I'm confident in everything but the waifu game regarding these devs
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>>736043286
can they write?
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>>736043189
Looks like I hit the nail on the head. Retard was definitely trying to pretend he was trolling.
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>>736039593
Everytime I try to look that up it seems to be the worst kind of cringe forced comedy on the surface and I'm put off, but I keep seeing keep praising it, is it actually good?
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>>736043373
>Everytime I try to look that up it seems to be the worst kind of cringe forced comedy on the surface
Not a fan of TTS either I take it?
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>>736040480
tbf in vigil being part of an org was always a choice, you could just run the game as lone hunters against the supernatural, the problem is that H5 forces all groups to do that style of game instead of it just being a choice, V5 also had this problem where the designers expected everyone to play thin-blood anerchs and fucked over all other factions
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>>736043505
I don't know what that is.
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>>736043345
Looks like you're trying to deliberately sabotage your own attempt at trolling, maybe to help sell the idea that you were "pretending" all along. Very odd behavior, but then what do I expect from you people? Not much.
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>>736039343
Depends on the Hunter, it's a blanket term
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>>736043247
I haven't done a rewatch of the more recent stuff, but I don't see "oh it's only bad because of the upload schedule" as a good defense. A good writer should write a story around their practical limits.
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>>736040480
The story hooks in H5 are pretty good, I've always preferred street level stuff, so it's not a big loss.
Vigil could be quite silly, H5 maintains a serious tone all the time.
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>>736043671
>say he is pretending to troll
>cries samefag
>is proven wrong
>uhhh no u pretending to troll
Like I said, he needs to make it look like he didn’t embarrass himself.
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>>736043846
>fictional sequence of events, in green
You're having a break from reality. Maybe you had it a long time ago.
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>>736043776
There is nothing wrong with the writing though, you are trying to say that because of the intervals which episodes are released that things are bloated and poorly done but that stops being an issue once it all comes together and everything is actually out. That’s like saying that a book series is bad because you had to wait years in between books. In the end it came out and put shit together.
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>>736043930
>fictional
It’s all right here in the thread. Or is this you trying to pretend to be retarded again because you desperately need a bunch of random people to not take you seriously because you embarrassed yourself by sperging out?
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>>736043930
>>736044080
just fuck already
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>>736044080
>screenshots of other people
>vague appeals to the crowd for support
Interesting. I'll admit you probably weren't ESL, but just a run of the mill retard, partially based on this but mostly based on the way you started repeating yourself when angry. I regret making those references to your poor translation when I should have been commenting on your low IQ and nappy hair.
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>>736044138
>samefags to do gay copout
So pretending to troll failed and no you have to do this shit?
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>>736044080
When are you two gonna exchange discords? This is a match made in heaven, two stubborn retards meant for each other.
Love truly does bloom on the battlefield.
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>>736043949
Release schedule matters for how a show is perceived. Look at how netflix's batch release of Stone Ocean negatively impacted it.

More to the point, I can't know for certain if they'll stick the landing in the 2-3 years it'll take. However, what I have seen does not bode well. I'd be happily surprised if they did, but if they went with any of your proposals for how to resolve it, I wouldn't find it satisfying.
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>>736043339
Did OK with Robocop to me yeah
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>>736044138
>>736044291
>somebody is making fun of a retard on the internet
>I'd better step in and start writing gay fanfiction!
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>>736044236
>screenshots of other people
>post replying to post at the top has a (You) in it
You already failed to pretend to troll and now all you can do is double down on the retardation. I mean you are fucking stupid, but you weren’t trolling. You just got caught in the usual midwit trap.
>I should have been commenting on your low IQ and nappy hair
You need to stop projecting.
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>>736043810
Vigil could be silly but also it could be street. Taking away the option to be that high end Belmont tier vampire killer entirely is dumb
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>>736044401
how is three words fanfiction?
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>>736044401
He lost so has to pretend to be another person to try and bring me down with him. He will now cry samefag, and double down even after he is prove wrong.
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>>736016683
>2 years away
Why even announce it?
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>>736044471
>various meme phrases
Otherwise just kind of repetitive again. I'm not sure you're following your own conversation. But then that's par for the course here.
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>>736044567
The publisher is apparently having some financial issues, I wouldn't be surprised if the developer wanted to get it out there to maybe gin up interest from another publisher if needed. Maybe they even orchestrated the leak. Announcing it gets wishlist numbers and trailer views and so on that might make a difference. If they just announced it with nothing people would assume disappointment coming off of everything else Paradox has done. Having it leak a little first and letting people see what they're building might have been a good move.
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>>736044310
>Release schedule matters for how a show is perceived.
No it fucking doesn’t, especially when the show is made by a handful of people and not a professional studio with the backing or an entertainment company.
>More to the point, I can't know for certain if they'll stick the landing in the 2-3 years it'll take
They’ve done it before and the way things are going the quality hasn’t dropped a gets better with every episode.
>what I have seen does not bode well
You haven’t actually said what is wrong with the writing as a whole and just seem to say that the release schedule is the issue.
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>>736044475
I'd disagree with the notion that Vigil was even silly, but I'm 90% sure that guy is shitposting. The post he's replying to didn't even mention Vigil by name.

What you have to understand is that Paradox wanted to Year Zero WoD. Both the anniversary revival of oWoD and nWoD/CofD got cancelled by them so they could control what gets put out. I think they were trying to attract developers with a "simple, clean" version of the setting without 30 years of books and multiple settings... but the opposite happened. Nobody's interested in skinsuit WoD.
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>>736044851
>more meme phrases
Figures.
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>>736044571
>>736044851
Okay but which of you is gonna utter the cope end the argument phrase "I accept your concession" first?
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>>736044929
One of the illiterates already did back in >>736040314

Now it's just a matter of waiting for his mother to call him for dinner.
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>>736044851
wtf is a jamboy?
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>>736044920
>>736044929
>ESL doesn’t understand words
>calls them meme phrases to cope
>samefags to keep posting faggy copout
This is a new level of pathetic.
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>>736045015
Some shit about the British making jeets smear jam on themselves while they played golf so the bugs wouldn’t fuck with them. Don’t know if it’s true but it makes them seethe.
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>>736044736
I'm really gonna blow your mind here Anon. TTS fell off hard when it fully transitioned from parody to fanfic, midway through the Warp Arc. That's why I'm concerned. You say they pulled it off before, I say they already fell off once.

I'm also not inclined to post a multi-page breakdown of the cracks forming in HtP's plot for someone who is clearly very emotionally invested in the studio making it and thus wouldn't really look at it objectively. You haven't been giving me the benefit of the doubt on my concerns, so I see no reason to give you the benefit of the doubt that you'd listen instead of just deny and brush past what I'm saying.
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>>736045098
Which is your opinion which you are only expressing now after saying nothing about it when I brought up the show before. Tell me are you just afraid of admitting that your beef is trivial and a nonissue? Because overall you are not actually giving anything specific about HTP’s narrative or writing problems save the scheduling which again is not really a problem. Shit or get off the pot anon.
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Well to the 3-4 people on /v/ who still play games good luck trying to talk about Hunter from now til release. I'm taking a nap.
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>well fellow shills I am going to pretend to leave while i pretend to be 3-4 people and throw a tantrum if someone so much as implies that these threads are in organic
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>>736045502
>>736045350
you are brown + jeet + shill + cope + trans
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Hey guys new anon here just got to the thread for the first time, wow am I really enjoying the hot new vampire video game Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2, I really think everybody here should download it. Take it home in boxes. Take it home in cases. If your parents try to stop you, just throw it in their faces!
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>retard pretend to leave
>say he pretended to leave and will continue throwing a tantrum and samefagging
>does exactly that
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hot Tremere women
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The real tragedy was late night Bloodlines threads. Paradox cucks and shitposters ruined one of the coziest repeat threads on /v/.
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>>736046213
Coziness can't exist on /v/, it's like trying to preserve snow in the desert
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>>736046213
The fuck do you mean? We had a VtMB thread the other day with none of that shit.
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>>736046213
Nah. They're still comfy.
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>>736046207
Always
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>>736046283
The deserts gets very cold at night anon,
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>>736046375
so does your bed
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>>736046404
I know that's why I sleep with your mum
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>>736046283
Hotel Dusk/ Last Widow threads remain cozy the like once or twice a year times they're created
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>>736046328
>>736046331
well clearly I fucking missed it.
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>>736046342
Made for Big Tzimisce Castles (to be part of as a furniture)
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>>736016560
they should've spent much more time on bloodhunt desu, cause it had a fuckton of potential.
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>>736016560
and deservedly so
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>>736046516
Or did you? Maybe you were there all along (maybe you never have been)
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Tremere is so obviously superior to the other clans it's almost embarassing. Especially compared to the forever seething shit missy, who were mostly turned into or raped by gargoyles
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>>736046665
Uh, we dont have deep enough dementation to view that resolution, Scion of Malkav.
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>>736046342
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>>736046747
He he he, few do these days (They do). I was never here.
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>>736046671
Tumors are a Tzimisce bloodline
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>>736046927
If that were true, they'd have the Tzimisce weakness, but they don't. They have no weakness really, because they are the perfect kindred. They didn't embrace themselves with their blood, they magically extracted the curse and applied it to themselves. The Tzimisce raged and howled about it, but they couldn't even meaningfully threaten a brand new clan that had just lost their magic, and ended up getting boiled alive and turned into stone slaves for their troubles. Sucks to suck.
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Huh, that's weird. Thread quality shot up suddenly.
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>>736020197
It's a flashing sign (with blaring air sirens attached) of how pants-on-head retarded the industry is. You are told what is wanted, you are shown what is wanted, you have a previous game to pull directly from, and you still ignore that and choose to please literally no one after an eternity in development hell. Then you turn around and have paid shills try to convince the people you pissed off that this was all actually a good thing.
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>>736047384
The schizo got removed and people started posting Tremere women.
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>>736047069
Yeah, nah. Sorry to disappoint you, but the sole reason the Kikery clan ("""Clan""" Tumor) weren't exterminated was because another Kike clan (clan Venturd) decided to threw their lot with them to spite the Tzimisce during the Omen War. If it werent for that (and, I grant you that, the dickery between the Tzimisce), the cheap knockoff of Koldunic sorcery wouldn't be enough for Tumors to survive to get to the final nights to be assimilated by the eldest at the end.
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>>736016683
>Hunter
>The Reckoning
>Deathwish
>Chronicles
>Wolf Nigga Edition
>Gold

Why do slavs name their games like this?
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Reminder that there is only one girl in the entire game who genuinely loves you and never manipulates you.
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>>736046342
cute nerd
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>>736016560
It was okay, too bad they are never gonna upgrade it

https://youtu.be/kiim0IPUAQc
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>>736047561
Torries are generally like this (bar Volgirre), but they are fleeting
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>>736047436
There was never a schizo, the faggot who was throwing a tantrum about being called a shill and cried how everyone that disagreed with him was an ESL limped off after embarrassing himself
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>>736047443
Ventrue threw their lot in with Tremere precisely because Tremere had grown powerful enough to be worth the alliance. They don't ally with riff raff. The Tremere had three separate clans warring with them while they were new, while they were redeveloping their magic, and not only did they fail to wipe out Tremere they couldn't even stop them from growing stronger. Clan Tremere is best pictured as a large adult male holding his arm out and restraining by the head Clan Shitmisce, best pictured as an obese child swinging wildly and ineffectually at the air. Goratrix could have taken the Sabbat from them too if he had felt like it. Who knows maybe one night he will.
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>>736047756
>There was never a schizo
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>>736047561
Yeah and she has red hair
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>>736047729
>Volgirre
I bet fucking Tziggers did this
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God, I want to be sucked dry by her...
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>>736047878
gross
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>>736016560
Have they put in a postgame mode where you can run around in the open world and finish finding the collectables? It was a bummer when I finished the game and it wanted me to go back several saves to be in the open world and finish that bit.
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>>736047819
Yeah there wasn't, unless you think the dude calling everyone an ESL is a schizo.
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>>736047982
They can't even put a save system in, ain't happening
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>>736047774
Venturds will sell their own souls for a few coins and a blood sausage, therefore, naturally, they would throw their lot with upstart kikes with similar treacherous nature. Of course, this didnt prevent Tumor Chantry being forcefully relocated to Vienna, cue the destruction of Ceoris. But alas, Venturd support, discord among voevodes and the fact that Tremere were Rein-Hagen's pet clan prevented full extermination.
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Any beginner tips I should be aware of for Vampire Requiem?
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>>736048183
I mean, my games are saved, I just don't want to back to the point where Lou leaves her tower and things start going to hell, since I found at least 10 collectables after that point and I don't want to go back and repeat finding them.
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>>736048205
>impotent dracula noises
hey look it's your sire
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>>736048312
Redemption*
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>Tremere AKA fake wizards vs fake wizards (forma the xenomorph)
Hey! Keep it to yourselves or you'll get one last tan. I'm making money here!
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>>736047443
>tz*misce
>m*kimafag
Horrendous taste
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>>736048330
>Implying Tzimisce give a slightest ounce of blood about their sires
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>>736020197
I would love this game so much more if it didn't claim to be a sequel to Bloodlines. It's fun as it's own thing and as part of the WoD.
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>>736048808
It's a 3/10 even without the name
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>>736019493
It's pro-Lou, pro-capitalist propaganda. The game all but tells you Lou made and wrote the entire exhibit to make her look good in the eyes of history.
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>>736048567
They took more than an ounce of blood from their sires once they formed the Sabbat.
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>>736049047
Touche
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>>736048939
I liked it. It was a 7/10 for me, and would probably be an 8/10 if I played it in a few years when it's complete.
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>>736048312
Nosferatu Tunnels are the great filter, don't get too mad at it.
If you see pic related, take it.
And if you leave a certain tower, try not to stick around for too long.
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>>736025576
Dontmakemehope.gif
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>>736048205
Giovanni plot armor is ten times thicker than Tremere plot armor and I'm tired of pretending it isn't. They did everything the Tremere did, to a larger clan (Cappadocian instead of Salubri), without the backing of a superpower, and they did it in less time. They somehow convinced both the Camarilla and Sabbat to leave them the hell alone, and they do all this while being inbred as fuck and somehow haven't broken the Masquerade despite embracing exclusively from this extended family.
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>>736047436
Disagree. I just stopped replying to people who wouldn't engage with me in good faith.

I also think the troll/shill/whatever actually did leave.
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>>736049802
they got it in the end
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>>736050071
How so? Please don't cite V5 slop lore.
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looks like he reset his router
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>>736049802
Just like the mob in real life.
We need Rudy Giuliani, vampire hunter.
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>>736049802
Good point. Though to support the Giovanni case (not really justifying the bullshittery, just playing the "devils advocate" here), Tzimisce and Ventrue were two Ruler Clans at war with eachother for centuries. Tremere being an useful proxy for the Ventrue and a bizarre artificial Tzimisce bloodline gone horribly wrong, and the ensuing escalation of conflict warranted international attention about the already existing power struggle.
Meanwhile, Cappadocians were more isolate clan that preferred to stay in shadows and nerd out reading books, praying and studying death. And Giovanni was a legitimate bloodline of said clan. So it was seen more as a civil war among a relatively weaker and politically detached clan that didnt spark enough tension for other major Vampiric actors to give a shit about it.
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>>736047561
Is that Susan?
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>>736051189
it's a man
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>>736050217
Never got banned faggot. But good job admitting you cried to the mods after getting btfo.
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>>736050328
What gets my goat is that there were already mobster character concepts in other clans. Combine that with the old money, incest, and banking and the Gios come across as a very specific Ventrue character concept with necromancy stapled to them.

>>736050339
It's a good enough devil's advocate, but where I'd still have issues is that the Gios did not stay in the lane of neutral nerdy occultists and philosophers. The Cappas even after the feast of folly were still much larger than the Salubri, and the Gios were immediately getting involved in merchant shenanigans which both the Lasombra and Ventrue also had serious slices of the pie of. They somehow got their neutrality put in writing at Thorns with a specific clause despite how many Princes had Cappadocian allies and friends.

And ever since then it's not like they've stopped getting up to bullshit. They routinely fuck around, but neither Sabbat nor Camarilla make them find out. I know the actual reason is that they were a later, originally entirely optional additional clan that the writers forget about half of the time, but they bug the hell out of me. The Tremere had to make SOME concessions and had to join a sect for protection.
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>>736048312
Don't bother with Faith much as human Christoph. It gives you exp, but the tradeoff isn't great and after a certain point it's a negative return (I forget when, but around 65 I think?), plus you high speed yourself to vamp levels (fledgling, neonate, ancillae) which is kind of lame.

If you want to cheat and break the game a little high speed rushing blood artifacts that increase your total blood pool so long as you wear them, e.g. the ring of blood or however its called, will perma lock in and stack if you are wearing them during one of the points where you transition these vampire levels. Like when you get enough XP to shift from Neonate to Ancilla or Ancilla to Elder. It's a bug. You can get a HUGE blood pool this way. Depending how many artifacts you wear during one of the key xp level turnovers, and how many times you do it, it ranges from a nice bonus that keeps you equal or greater than your companions to plain ridiculous
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>>736047878
Yuck
Do people really like her? Shes a hag
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>>736053121
Idk, haha. Don't mind me. I'm a newfag.
I just like her a bit in BL2. Never played the first game.
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>>736049802
I mostly agree, but

The Giovanni usurpation looks a lot more like an internal clan civil war from the outside. One were the more radical faction one and changed things a lot, if you care, but so what. I don't think in universe vampires are supposed to know much or care about other clan details, but even if you did all you would notice is Cappadocians started calling themselves something different, don't look like corpses anymore, started becoming more focused on Italy and insular, and if you're a real Cappadocian buff you know they changed their style of necromancy.

It might help too that Giovanni himself was a naturally selected late stage antediluvian child, and his consumption of the father is more of a coup than any coherent philosophy of regicide or sanctioned ideological vampire murder. Let's remember that the Sabbat hate all antediluvians and official policy of Camarilla is they don't even exists - and it might be hard to keep in mind from player perspective, but in universe the vast majority of world vampires under the age of 500 should believe this or be agnostic on it. The Giovanni are no ideological threat to non Cappadocian Sabbat and haven't actually done anything except make up stories according to Camarilla propaganda. They mostly stopped hunting/murdering others of their clan mostly by the closing of the Anarch revolt and start of the Camarilla, I believe, so they're not even guilty of that.

I never found the Tzimisce hate of Tremere that believable, even if its fun - especially since they're an anarch clan. An old clan Tzimisce maybe. But I figured their justification of it is that a bunch of disgusting kine actually hunted and cannibalized a revered elder as if vampires are raw meat to experiment on and consume and supplant all tradition. Outrageous. But Giovanni never did that, its all standard vamp on vamp.

What makes no sense to me is how complete the Cappadocian genocide really was.
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>>736047878
They did a good job making her repulsive in personality and threatening in her arbitrary power. Truly you can feel why elders are annoying as shit.

I played phyre as a simp for her initially and a straight camarilla booster, but by the very end I was pissed off and regretful hearing she survived everything, stronger than ever, in my epilogue, and I ended up her loyal sheriff. The boobs are worth decades of her shit. I wish I could get succed by Ryong instead.
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>>736054036
>I never found the Tzimisce hate of Tremere that believable
Well, they do occasionally get along (to the detriment of others. See "blood brothers")
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>>736054036
What makes it hard for me to believe is how when the writers actually remember that the Giovanni exist, they are being incredibly unsubtle about their "playing both sides". It's also inconsistent on how large they are as a clan. Sometimes they're treated as a major player, other times they're a glorified bloodline. It's a problem all of the Indie 4 clans have, they were created as narrow in scope bloodlines before bloodlines were a thing. Then VTDA had the unenviable task of explaining them. At least they're not the fucking Assamites.

And agreed on the implausibility of them actually wiping out the Cappas except for the dudes stuck in the underworld for half a millennium.

>>736054296
To be fair those were the Tremere Antitribu. Please ignore that the leader of the Tremere Antitribu was the guy who came up with the idea to juice a Tzimisce in the first place.
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