Just finished Fallen Order and started Jedi Survivor. These games absolutely mog KOTOR
g_saberrealisticcombat 5
>>736023683dont forget to mod Merrins hair so that it is the same as in fallen order
>>736023683This is basically what I've always wanted from a Star Wars game. You don't play as a smuggler or Naboo Starfighter or something, and it isn't a turn based RPG. It's an action game about swinging a lightsaber.
>>736023683not sure if it mogs kotor but I had fun and wish they announce the third one soon. pretty much the only good nu-wars thing
>>736025915does enemies get lazored when I swing my lightsaber on them?
Every day I find fresh reasons to hold contempt for zoomers
>>736027151no decaps but there is limb dismemberment in Survivor
The indian shills are getting rowdy, sequel soon?
>>736027151They remembered that it's more fun if enemies have some health instead of dying in one hit, if that's what you're asking. You can cut an enemy in half, though.
>>736024815Fuck no, the dyke hair makes it way better when you bang her (lesbian correction is my fave)
>>736027257Cope. 90% of the good stuff in KOTOR is from the Tales Of The Jedi comics. Revans story sucks.
I barely remember the story of these gamesIt was so boringThe combat was alright but it was way too easy for a souls gamePlaying as Cal Kestis sure as hell didn't feel like playing as a jediMore like a guy who just picked up a lightsaber and uses it as a baseball bat
and JK and Academy mog all.
>>736028975oh its the baseball bat anon. you are in every star wars jedi thread
>>736023683Survivor was fun, but it did not felt lime a step up from Fallen Order, more like a open world sideloaded content tacked on Fallen Order ideas.
>>736028975No one asked for your dogshit opinion
>>736029454Next he's going to cry about dismemberment and pretend it was part of the base game for JK lol
>>736023683Second game is just not worth playing.Remember that scene showing how scary Darth Vader is? Like a force of nature, that you can't do anything about, and the only option is to run?Now imagine that Debra character who could do jack shit and got almost insta killed in Fallen Order is now SO powerful that Vader is her bitch and she almost kills him.
I hope they find a way to bring back battle droids again in 3. Make up some bullshit I just wanna see funny droids again.
>>736028626nah>>736028680what was this guy's major malfunction
I've been playing the first one, and my basic reaction is that it's very good, but I almost wish it was a real Soulslike, and I wasn't locked so hard into one style of gameplay. There's a point at which the game throws yet more enemies that I'm only supposed to tackle in one specific way at me, and my eyes kind of glaze over. I don't necessarily want to parry everything.A full blown Star Wars Soulslike where you can play Jedi, Smuggler, Mandalorian, Stormtrooper, etc, would be pretty neat.
>>736028975Yeah I guess someone who calls every video game a Souls game wouldn't understand much else, either.
>>736030261It's pretty much babbies first Souls, crossed with Zelda. It's not shy about showing it's influences.
>>736023683>These games absolutely mog KOTORNo but they are pretty good.
>>736029519It would be a step up if they just made another Fallen Order but longer. Stuff like the 5 complete fighting styles, when the previous game had 2 plus some special moves in a different style, makes it feel like an upgrade.
>>736023683Yeah, no. These games feel like the single most generic blueprint on how to make a default feelgood Disney Wars story with nothing to say and no bite. Cal Kestis is the most white bread protagonist I've ever seen, and for FO specifically you know where the story's gonna go from the beginning because it turns out there's no Jedi Order by the time of the OT so of fucking course they're not gonna make use of the holocron with all the Force sensitive kids. Survivor's plot is worse and you have and it's built on top of an empty open world at that.
>>736030562the fact that it's literally just Star Wars, and you actually kind of feel like you're playing a Star Wars movie is the appeal though.Not everything has to be a dark and clever subversion. Star Wars, at it's core is about strapping young lads going on adventures, and fighting evil. That's what endeared everyone to it in the first place.
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>>736028680>Tales Of The Jedi comicslmao. Years hearing people hype up Ulic and Exar Kun only for them to be legit unbelievably fucking retarded and deserve everything they get and more. Then you read the prequel issues and the same is true for Naga Sadow. They don't even rule for a bit or anything, just immediately crash and burn. Godawful stories.
Fallen Order is okay. Combat is janky, but could be much much worse, so no point in complaining. However, characters are complete dogshit, from the MC, to Debra Wilson, to the antagonist. I didn't care enough to play the second game.
>>736030869survivor has better combat but the maps are worse because muh open world
Survivor is really good even if the story doesn't get good until the 3rd act (The side characters are fun though even if they make 90% of them gay to "counter balance" Cal not being a faggot and banging Merrin)
>>736023683why does any game you guys like have to mog something else good. i enjoyed fallen order and survivor was a significant improvement and I also love kotor they're completely different games. im just happy we still get good star wars games occasionally.
>>736030938>better combat but the maps are worseQuite a tradeoff.
>>736030869they could use more fleshing out, but the basic characters are fine. I feel like they all become friends very quickly, and there isn't quite enough of a justification as to why.Debra Wilson even kind of looks like an alien, so she doesn't feel out of place.
Cal could easily solo both Revan and Starkiller
>>736028975It’s not a souls game.
Does this shit still randomly crash on PC or did they fix it?
>>736030735Id rather have it feel like the comics and I doubt I'm the only one
>>736031660I had no crashes last year but there are still big frame drops on the open world planet
>>736031665I read one SW comic ever, and it did almost nothing for me.
>>736031614ThisIt's an Uncharted game
>>736031104It is brown values.These creatures only value hierarchy.Young people all over have been told to idolize these things.So going forth, only those that put down others will be considered to have any worth.
The XCom clone is looking good. Except>Jedi limited to story character>Mandalorian limited to story character>No battle droid class
>>736031793Some of them were really good but the last time I read one was back in middle school so maybe that's nostalgia
>>736025915Is that why it’s so bland and lesser compared to kotor
>>736029736You didn't play the game, culture war tourist outing themselves as always
Both games are kino and the best Star Wars games to date.
>>736023683Wow how could you possibly tell that senator is a bad guy???
>>736031179>Debra Wilson even kind of looks like an alien, so she doesn't feel out of place.Haha true. What I didn't like is all the unskippable yapping about how aweome she is (I don't care), because the writer really wanted to make the plot about her.The rest of the cast I just didn't find appealing. Cal should have been a blank slate made in character editor. The antagonist is part of the Debra Wilson story which I don't care about. She should have been tied to "Cal" somehow. But this all comes from the inability of the writers to create a storynfor the player and to self-insert as the player. Merrin is alright because she's cute and friendly and for a change does not come as a sidecar to Debra Wilson.
I wish I was playing as Anakin
>>736030869To add, the plot is basically a bunch of secondaries (to Skywalker, Vader, Kenobi, etc) inventing an epic mission and failing (but pretending not to) it because secondaries (and moreover, any epic missions) are not allowed to succeed even if they are led by Debra Wilson. It would be more respectful to the player to set a smaller goal and let them have it.
>>736031491lol no he couldn't. The strongest video game jedi he could potentially defeat is maybe Kyle Katarn or Jaden Korr
I hate the era they are set in. Same with Andor. That era is too grim-dark and dystopian. To me, Star Wars is grand and bright and hopeful. Super cereal depressing stories don't capture the right vibes.
>>736023683>play Survivor>we are landing on a planet with a temple>instead of landing on a wide open space right next to the temple, land about 100ft away>because we landed 100ft away I need to now navigate a maze of ledges and shortcuts for hours to get to the temple>instead of you know .... landing right next to itYeah, no.
>>736025915and it's boring AFjust like jedi
>>736028510>more fun if enemies have some health>more fun if lightsabers that should cut through the vast majority of materials in the SW universe somehow take 10 hits to kill a fucking stormtrooper
>>736028680>comicsif you have to go to star wars comics for "cool stuff" then you're in trouble
>>736031491>Cal could easily solo both Revan and St-ACK!
>>736033390Well you have to consider the fact that the Empire is out looking for the Stinger Mantis in an attempt to capture or kill Cal and Cere, naturally you'd want to land your only hope for getting around somewhere well hidden.
>>736033089The era is bad, it should be right after ROTJ. Just like Jedi Outcast.The combat is very meh. Calling the lightsaber a baseball bat is apt. It really should be one hit kill, and able to cut through most weapons. A lightsaber getting cucked by an energy baton is such a shitty feeling.The overall atmosphere really doesn't feel like Star Wars at all. Coruscant in Survivor barely felt like it. The planets to follow were all very boring and barren. Seriously: Mass Effect Andromeda had better planets.Last, Cal and his power level. Completely lacking aura, his character is a flat line on a heart rate monitor. Compare to Kyle Katarn, whose temptation and return from the dark side was clear and motivated, Cal went through a deeply dark time yet shows no real growth or even expression. If Kyle was a car, Cal is a worn tire tread. Similarly, his power. Cal is powerful with telekinetics at best. His swordsmanship is equally cucked by enemy posture bars. Like I said, a lowly Stormtrooper with a stun baton can stand up to a "powerful" Jedi. Kyle was very strong yet still vulnerable in later stages of the game. Stormtroopers were able to swarm him and take him down with blasters, flechettes, and rockets. Same with droids.I'm a proud Jedi Outcast fanboy and do not withhold my bias. I'm mainly upset that the modern Jedi games, while still "the best" that's come from Disney, still fall short to titles released in 2002.
>>736023683the only good stuff to come out of disney wars.
>>736031491>Cal used Force Push! It's not very effective...>Revan used Force Kill! One Hit K.O.!
>>736032169He's not wrong.
>>736023683Disney fagots aren't allowed on this boardI'm afraid you'll have to go to /co/ or /tg/
>>736028510There should've been a dismemberment feature, where enemies lose limbs as their health percentage drops, to show that your lightsaber isn't just a glowstick except on final blows.
>>736032169shoo tranny
Reminder that the Empire was right, unironically.A million species, religions, cultures, and codes of law cannot coexist peacefully especially with bad apples like the Mand*lorians glorifying death and violence.The only way to ensure peace and compliance is the threat of force so unstoppable no one would dare defy it - the Death Star was an attempt at this, if a mishandled one. 99.9% of galactic citizens lived just fine under Imperial rule.The 'New Republic' changed nothing and brought back the old system with all its failings. Pirates and criminals rule the outer rim once more, aliens control your money, and Jedi can kidnap children again.
>>736029736>>736034335Turning Vader into Space Jesus is the worst creative decision in the history of the franchise. Now ANY time Vader is put on the backfoot fans piss and moan and go into hysterics because the phantom menace said he had the highest force power level making him the BESTEST and EPICEST most BADASSEST Jedi EVER and he can NEVER be defeated! Then they start crying about wokeness and jewish subversion of cultural iconography
>>736033929No, he's right. Since the Empire was on the lookout for their very unique, trackable, and massive ship, they should have traded it for something smaller and more subtle. Alternatively, they could hover low above the target, open the ramp, then the guy with super powers could air drop in.>>736033390The better example are the ancient and abandoned puzzle areas. Glide around using wild creatures to find a metal ball to conduct and redirect eternal energy beams. Spray conductive good using the droid friend you happen to have to carry purple macguffin energy to open a door. Maybe one ancient temple area is okay. I think they should've focused more on Imperial bases and outposts.
>>736034689>With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy!>REEEEEE NOOOOOOO THAT'S EVIL, I'LL NEVER JOIN YOU!!!Padme should've swallowed.
>>736034464That would look cool, but someone who has their arms cut off would have a hard time holding a weapon.
>>736032850nah, Katarn would slap the shit out of him.
Underrated Gem
>>736033089The 19 years between the PT and the OT is literally the only interesting setting they can make stories in. Think about it.They got rid of the EU so the Old Republic and the era 40+ years after ROTJ don't exist, meaning you can't have stories with good lightsaber guys and bad lightsaber guys fighting each other there. In both Disney's canon High Republic and the years immediately before the PT and after TPM, you can't have lightsaber baddies because it's an integral part of the plot that the Sith have been hiding for 1000 years, and everyone ridiculed The Acolyte for trying to change that. The rest of the PT has been covered in its entirety via TCW.Nobody wants to cover the setting between the OT and ST, and right after the ST, because it is a nuked toxic cesspool nobody wants to confront with a ten-foot pole due to how utterly setting-breaking the ST writing was. Nobody cares about building up the post-OT world because it'll be meaningless once our OG heroes do nothing when The First Order rises and becomes as powerful as the Empire with a weapon five times as deadly as the Death Star. We see Luke build his Order in Mando? Great, can't wait for when he tries to kill his nephew in his sleep after which the kid massacres all the students, Baby Yoda included hopefully, and the whole place burns down.And the setting post-ST? Come on now. What are you gonna do? 40yo Rey creating a Jedi Order out of thin air when she has zero fucking connection to anything that came before?So yeah, no wonder most stories are set between Episodes III and IV. Andor, Rebels, these Cal Kestis games, Rogue One, Bad Batch, the new Maul show... it's set during the OT Empire Era everyone likes, after the huge ROTS ending with Order 66 and Mustafar everyone likes, and you can have good guys and bad guys fighting with lightsabers because you've got both escaped Jedi and Sith Inquisitors. They set stories in this time period because they've literally got absolutely nothing else.
>>736033773God I forgot about the dark times of frequent QTE.
>>736035116Greenchads rise up
>>736034697You sound internet obsessed. The OT itself established Vader as the right hand man of the leader of the entire galaxy. The literal dark knight of this fairy tale story. The Empire's number one enforcer and leader of the Inquisitors. 40 years after his creation, you make up a random new literal who Jedi that is canonically established to defeat him within an inch of his life and he's left limping and wheezing. Don't get surprised when people call you out for hyping out your own OC donutsteel action figure toys.
Don't know why, there were a couple times where "take photo" didn't clear the UI fast enough, so it'd just be in the screenshot. Yes I see the "hide UI" button, but that's not the point.
>>736029736You have to remember that Cere is a former Jedi Master, and Anakin who wasn't even given that rank is no longer in his prime, with his suit being designed to not only restrict his movements, but also inflict constant pain on him to maintain his dark side anger. It would be no contest if this was Anakin in his prime, but with how fucked his body is now, it makes sense that he would struggle against her a bit. There's also some RPS fuckery when it comes to lightsaber combat forms that can make fights more favorable for those using a form that overpowers another, but the devs probably didn't think of that, so disregard what I said here. lol
>>736034689>99.9% of galactic citizens lived just fine under Imperial ruleDude went to prison for being sweaty.
>>736034697>>736032169you're fucking retarded and you didn't play the game and now you are lying like a little bitch. Go fucking dilate and leave adults to do the talkimg.I don't fucking care if it was Debra character - I am complaining about VAST difference between how Vader is portrayed in both games.In first he is unstoppable force, showing how huge different between him, Cale and Cera is. Like with all the trouble Cale got himself through the game, fighting the inquisition getting stronger etc he is still nothing compared to real power or the size of the empire.And in second game they went all opposite, because 'we need to kill your mentor for emotional moment, let make her death a noble sacrifice and build a legend around her' retarded mess. And now suddenly Vader is just a push over, almost killed by barely know Jedi, while the other more important Jedi is just killed without a fight.Take a look at this scene, which was a great finally for Fallen Order:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gamt77-WBkYAnd now look how much of s bitch Vader is in second game:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V_dxz9WMA0E
>>736035061They'd have to make a second set of animations for every enemy where they fight with one arm, so it's unrealistic, but II still think it would sell lightsabers being dangerous again. Maybe leave them one leg so that they have to hop if you bring them to less than 10% without killing them.
>>736035474nah, if she was anyone important, Vader would just have killed her in first game instead of just tossing her aside like she means nothing. Or the empire would have hunted her down. She shows her face just fine and no one recognises her, so she was just nobody jedi, and that was fine. Neither Cera or Cas has to be some grand amazing powerful. It only makes their struggles more significant and interesting.But they changed it all down in second game to make her grander for retarded reasons.
>>736035474>with his suit being designed to not only restrict his movements, but also inflict constant pain on him to maintain his dark side angerIsn't that Expanded Universe lore from 20 years ago? Thus not canon.
>>736036025It makes sense that he would overpower her in the first game because Cere had cut off her connection to the force in fear of turning to the Dark Side, and hasn't really been training herself. By the time of her fight in the second game, she had been training for years and regained that connection. It also should be noted that Vader largely didn't take her seriously during their second fight, which allowed her to score a lot of hits on him and weakening him throughout the fight
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>>736025915>Locked into light path onlyJust say you like being a cuck.>Can't even kill a sith enemy>No dismemberment Enjoy your downgrade.
>>736028975You just made i-love-nu-disneywars zoomers mad, anon.
>>736034697I'm not going to claim the prequels had perfect writing. Even ignoring that episode 3 makes it obvious he led the mass killing of Jedi, the original three make it obvious he's a major threat. A rebel army is formed specifically because they would rather kill imperials than leave the empire in charge. Darth Vader is ridiculously high up in the empire, as in second only to the emperor himself. Plenty of people want him dead and actively tried to make that happen. The plots could be described as "the heroes try to kill Vader" and the fact that he went two movies without losing a sword fight and lost only to the literal strongest fighter alive makes it clear he's strong.
I really enjoyed it but that hub world. Everyone is gay and has a tragic backstory. Every single one. It's like all the trannies on the dev team tried to out trannie the others.
>>736023683Here's how to instantly improve that game of yours:https://youtu.be/S_D2FNNiRfc
>>736030562>Starkillergets fucked by either Vader of Palpatine>Calfucks his goth GF every day I'll let you decide who the real winner is here
>>736035613eh, he fucked around in that fight and didn't take her serious until the endhe was being overconfident, a bit too much Anakin a bit too little Vader and as a result she gets a couple good hits inAnd it's not like he's invincible, after all even in Ep4 he gets clowned on by Han
>>736035116More like overrated piece of shit.
>>736038049>StarkillerIs beloved and still widely remembered, talked about and referenced even two decades years later even though he hasn't been in a game in 16 years and hasn't been canon in 12.>CalWill die in his third game so there are no Jedi when Luke's around and the only reason people even remotely care about his games (read: not him) is because they are by default the only tolerablw SW vidya nowadays outside of the Lego one due to how absolute dogshit EA and Ubisoft have been with everything else (people still rather talk about KOTOR, TFU or Kyle's games in general).
>>736023683I was interested until I heard about that scene where the ugly bug eyed sheboon humiliates Vader. Now I:'m never touching that shit.
I'd rather play TFU again and I despise those QTE shitfests.
>>736038570starkiller is more mocked than remembered lovingly or hell used as a shining example of everything wrong with old expanded universehis star destroyer pulling scene is a meme for a good reason if you said Kyle you'd have a point here, but Starkiller is so much a meme he even lost his name to the Ep 7 mcguffin
>>736035613>I don't fucking care if it was Debra characterAnother anon, but I think that's part of the issue. They wanted to create a powerful and important character, but the character turned out to be trash (arguably of course).
>>736038870hey at least the game had an actual fun mentor jedihim dying had me a lot more upset than Cere
>>736038598In the first game, it happens in the very end, by that time you either had your fun or dropped the game. You do have to endure unskippable negress monologues though.
>>736038713>starkiller is mockedMaybe by /v/ contrarians or literal redditors that still meme about the misinterpreted Star Destroyer as if it was 2012.>used as a shining example of everything wrong with old expanded universe Weird way to refer to Han convincing Leia to marry him with a mind control laser.>his star destroyer pulling scene is a meme for a good reason Oh. Oh reading this after writing the above is so much funnier. Oh no anon you sweet summer child.>if you said Kyle>Starkiller is so much a meme he even lost his name to the Ep 7 mcguffinAnon you don't wanna throw stones when Andor BTFO any other story about the sacrifice required to rebel and obtain the Death Star plans.
>>736038713>starkiller is more mocked than remembered lovinglyAnon people have been asking him to come back as an Inquisitor for years. There was a Rahm Kota reference in the Kenobi show and people lost their shit. Memes and fanart and shit is constantly being made even today. Force Unleashed is the holy grail compared with 90% of Disney Wars storylines.
>>736034689UNLIMITED GENOCIDE ON THE CORE WORLDS
>>736023683enjoy your capeshit retard
>>736035613>vader is genuinely challenged by a Jedi Master completely at peace with her death who has spent the last few years actually working to better herself>unlike their previous encounter when she had all but cut herself off from the force and was not at all ready to fight an inquisitor, much less himHow is this a fucking problemVader still killed her after basically fucking with her for the entire fight
>>736023683In terms of combat, maybe. But not in terms of writing. https://youtu.be/TWbt7dNkcw8?si=RaEKDQrERSp0bcFE&t=7
>>736038713Yet he's so in demand he gets new action figures.
>>736023683Mostly agreed. The KOTOR series was the Bioshock Infinite of it's era. Which is to say that it's god bad gameplay and it is poorly written, but retards thought it was smart. It's also completely antithetical to Lucas' vision. Fallen Order I thought was kinda boring. I didn't finish it. Loved Jedi Survivor though. It is incredible, assuming you don't have performance issues (which most people do)
>>736042567Did they ever fix the performance issues? Or is it just not viable to play on PC?
I like how you start the second game with all your powers. No bullshit reset
>>736042148>all the lightsabers he keeps on his beltKino.
>>736042913They improved performance. It still isn't amazing, though. This is a case where people basically brute force it with superior hardware to make it work better.
>>736034689>Reminder that the Empire was right, unironically.A thousand generations of the Republic: This is bad, wrong, unsustainable, unnatural, it can't keep happening20 years of the Empire: this is good, great, totally okay, ruling by threat of blowing up planets is completely normal and will work long term, every problem just needs more violence and guns introduced to solve
Survivor was an improvement gameplay wise, but I wish it was more planets. The big one, can't even remember what it was called, was kind of disappointing.Also, I didn't really care for the story or characters in the main story, it was pretty mediocre and the hidden planet thing must be some nu-wars shit forced into the story because it was very dumb.
>>736023683This game really showed what unreal engine is capable of in the right hands
>>736025915Ever heard of Jedi Outcast?
>>736034689>aliens control your moneyhumans are also aliens in star wars
>>736044831Yes, I've played the Jedi Knight games. Those are close to what I was expecting, but it often felt like they were trying to clone the popular first person shooters of the time, and threw in a lightsaber, too.
>>736035654>unrealisticdidn't metal gear rising do this?
>>736025915Force unleashed mogs this series if that's what you want.
>>736035426powerless schmucks call Vader a fucking lapdog to his face in the OT lol. He's Grand Moff Tarkin's bitch the entire runtime.
>>736026004>>736027423Will there even be one? The 2nd game went on sale after like a month. I can't imagine the sales were anything spectacular.
>>736030735>Not everything has to be a dark and clever subversion. Star Wars, at it's core is about strapping young lads going on adventures, and fighting evil.This.
>>736033089>To me, Star Wars is grand and bright and hopeful. Super cereal depressing stories don't capture the right vibes.Empire Strikes Back is bright and hopeful to you?
>>736029736I get it that people in third world countries don't have enough wealth to afford the hardware necessary to actually play the games they like to complain about, but couldn't you at least watch a gameplay video before coming to /v/ to spew your shit?
>>736046212ESB is dark because as the second part of a trilogy its narrative place is to have the heroes' noses bloodied so they can have something to overcome in the buildup to the big finale. ESB ends on a high note, positive and optimistic
>>736035426>established to defeat him>canonically does not defeat himPretty retarded argument anon
Loving the series now that I can play as a Twi’lek female in bikini armor with AI voice acting mods instead of Bland Mehstis.
>>736046017Force Unleased is more of what I want, but moving Garry's Mod physics objects and having a lightsaber that was also full of lightning sure didn't seem like the movies.
>>736046104>powerless schmucksAll one of them that's actually as powerful legally as Vader is while on the Death Star? Vader is Palpy's second on the Force, Tarkin is Palpy's second on the Galactic Empire command and was in charge of the Death Star project after Krennic fucked up, and in charge of all the actual operations running the station.
>>736046647You presumably know what happens in Star Wars. Still, it's worth noting that their fight in Return of the Jedi is a victory for Luke. He just stops short of killing his dad afterwards.
>>736046647>>736034335
Have they fixed the PC version yet? Might pick up next time it goes on sale
>>736046732Each medium interprets Star Wars as a setting to its strengths. Movies do it one way, comics another, TFU just made use of videogames to turn the Force into a ragdoll superpower.
>>736047071nope. you can mitigate it by having a beefy pc and some perf mods but it wasnt and will never be fully fixed
>>736023683>lightsabers don't leave trails on surfaces it's slop
>>736033089the imperial era sucks because disney doesn't know/ allow the writers to make it make sensethe empire controls a huge chunk of the galaxy, but their standard troops are dimwitted buffoons, the inquisitors are a bunch of shitters who get btfo by any jedi above padawan level, and there are 10x as many jedi as there was pre disneythe only reason they're successful is because the plot demands them to be so until the ot happensdisney also making most of the rebels shithead terrorists instead of an alliance of people trying to restore the republic only striking military targets makes the empire look like the good guys by default, especially with how much the nurepublic sucks ass post rotj
>>736046112>In the United Kingdom, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor launch sales were thirty percent higher than those of Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order. >CEO of Electronic Arts, Andrew Wilson, wrote that the publisher was "overjoyed" by the game's commercial performance and added that its sales were pacing "strongly" against expectations.>In August 2023, EA described the game as a "commercial success".>It was the ninth best-selling video game in the US in 2023.
>>736035426>yells like an impotent retard after a ship is stormed by others and the danger is over>gets told to his face his religion is bullshit by a pencil pusher>gets told to stop acting like an easily baited retard by his real boss>tortures a 19 year old girl with the help of a droid>almost dies because he tries to be a badass and The Force completely fails to warn him a huge ship is about to crawl up his asshole>final shot is him spinning off impotently into the darkness of space, presumably to die because the only support he had just got blown upThe OT starts with Vader acting like or being treated like a bitch from the moment he appears to his final scene. It's not until he casually murders Ozzel and promotes Piett into his place that the audience is really sold the idea that this man is a feared pillar of the Empire to rival the Death Star itself.
>>7360475099th in one year isn't very good. It was going for half off within 6 months of release. They can say one thing but have been acting like another.
>>736047135>Han Solo has a WIFE!?!I don't know why they tried so hard with that particular bit, everyone knew she wasn't going to actually be his wife in the end
>>736047639nta but I think its pretty obvious that lucas had no plan with vader in the new hope. he was just a bad guy that might come back in a sequel (one that wasnt sure to happen). but nowadays its funny seeing vader as The bad guy and a killing machine in every single piece of sw media except for new hope. its also why I hate that rogue one ending with him going berserk. they could have at least bring him closer to new hope vader but no, reddit demands ebin scene
He will save Star Wars and you will apologize.
>>736041164every day i thank god that they didn't turn starkiller into an inquisitor despite having every chance to do sohe would've jobbed so hard to ahsoka or another one of filoni's shitty oc's i can only assume witwer shoots them down whenever somebody asks
>>736047639>yells like a retard after a ship is stormedHe commands orders after the first wave and strangles the Captain after interrogating him.>gets told his religion is bullshitAnd immediately proves the retard wrong by choking him telekinetically.>gets told by Tarkin to try and not make a mess on the brand new station he's commanding ftfy*>tortures a 19 year old girl with the help of a droid Ehm... based?>almost dies because The Force completely failsYou stopped to think that he survives precisely *because* The Force was, in fact, with him?>final shot is him spinning off into the darknessKino.
>>736048041I didn't know Filoni was jewish
>>736048041>Forces EA to put Ashoka into Jedi 3>Not so subtly makes her the lead instead of Cal>Cal gets backgrounded in his own gameFILONI I KNEEL
>>736046363go dilate tranny and go maybe disappoint your parents more instead of spreading your bullshit here again
>>736048041he's been actively ruining star wars since 2012 when he begged george to let ahsoka life and george threw him a bonenow that he has more projects under his belt we can see that he is a net negative
I'm getting back in Star Wars again after cooling off it the past 5 years via lego sets
>>736028975HOLY FUCKING TRUTH NUKE
>>736048470>spoilermy condolences to your wallet
Vader in Episode IV is an enforcer, not a politician. The only political power he has is derived from what the Emperor grants him, whereas Tarkin actually has political control over the sector they're in. While Vader is closer to the Emperor, Tarkin is legally the Emperor's Representative on the Death Star.Simple as.
>>736048272>gets told by Tarkin to try and not make a messhttps://youtu.be/YnNSnJbjdws?t=109
>>736047770Why isn't it good? That's still millions of sales. Unless the publisher comes out and says something did less than expected, which happens often and is usually due to insanely high budgets that require unrealistic sales just to break even, then it is usually more accurate to assume that millions of sales is a good thing, and they publicly stated it was a success.It also sold better than the first game within their respective launch windows, before any potential sales, and the first obviously did well enough to justify the 2nd game.
>>736048813The fact that it entered the bargain bin within a year of release. Games that are selling well don't do that.
>>736048810>posts video of Tarkin telling Vader to not make a mess
>>736048041He's been mogged, I'm afraid. Too bad he would never accept the role.
>>736034689The Empire/Republic can suck my cock. Count Dooku was right and the only way forward is to separate ourselves from the inherently corrupt senate
>>736046948Is nearly the same as defeated? Did Cere lose? Or did she beat him?
>>736049407The official, canon novelization has Dooku as a human supremacist completely on board with what Palpatine eventually created: a human-centric and run military dictatorship that put aliens in their place
>>736049527Exactly. The senate represents every race in the galaxy but humans are the only ones that should matter
>>736046856Do you think Luke outskilled Vader during that fight?
>>736048041He betrayed Favreau.
>>736049108>no more Tony Gilroy Star Wars ever again and all we have on the horizon is endless Filonislop
>>736023683I'm playing Jedi Survivor right now. It's fun but it runs like complete ass even though my PC exceeds the recommended system requirements.
>>736023683I played this game back in 2020, there was so much of it eventually when I got to Dathomir I put it down and never picked it up. A thread on here last month made me want to play it again, this time using a guide so I could zoom through it. I just cleared Kashyyyk last night, so I'm up to the very point I put it down last time. I'm ready to take a break, but this time I'll remember the plot points and where I left off so I can pick it back up and finish the rest of the game.
>>736023683I refuse to touch these because I don't wanna play as a fugly ginger tbdesu
>>736049527>Human Supremacist Count Dooku>entire Separatist movement is crewed and bankrolled by Nemoidians, Genosians, Skakoans, and MuunJust like real life
>>736049797It's famously one of the worst PC ports.It stutters no matter what hardware you are using if you enable RT. Even without RT it's still both CPU and GPU heavy.
>>736049764QRD?
>>736050064>the entire Confederacy was set up to fail from the start>Anakin's first official act as Dooku's replacement is to kill all the alien leaders
>>736034335>Dies to VaderSo she lost like everybody else
>>736048041He will apologize to me.
>>736049505She beat his geriatric self within an inch and humbled his white ass, yes.
>>736049407Dooku was always as moustache twirling villain as Sidious and only a minority of EU writers pretending otherwise with "muh shades of grey muh he thought he was doing the right thing".
>>736049764Favreau shat out the Book of Boba Fett.
>>736032183>>736023683Don't fuck with this Senat-ACK!
>>736044754stutters?
>>736023683I'm playing Survivor now after picking it up for $10. Just got the cross-guard saber last night, it's been fun so far.
>>736050356So she lost.
>>736050443He petitioned immediately for Obi Wan's release
>>736049797Just force 30hz vsync e deal with the 30fps. It'll suck all the way through but at least it'll suck consistently instead of constantly distracting you with the stutters and drops.
>>736050443Dooku seemed semi-reasonable as opposed to Palps who wanted to cackle and shoot lightning out of his finger tips and Maul who was a nearly mute autist Palpatine found off the street.
>>736024815I both like and despise Merrin. On the one hand, hot slavic chick thirsting for cock. On the other hand, why the fuck do they need Cal when they have Merrin? She's so over powered she can take entire battalions of Storm Troopers and AT-ATs in the time it takes Cal to climb up a chest high wall.
>>736050803I'm sorry people saw right through you, Aaron Contreras.
>>736042030Shills and bots ignore these kinds of comments because marketing thinks narrative isn't the main reason anyone partakes in Star Wars media.Jedi Survivor is riddled with some of the worst writing I've seen in a AAA game including meta ludo infractions that are played straight.
>>736050975So just to confirm, Cere is 0-2 on fighting Vader?
>>736050443>only a minority of EU writers pretending otherwise with "muh shades of grey muh he thought he was doing the right thing".In the comics he sells the entire Togruta race into slavery
>>736032169nta but he's right, he's not even mentioning that you can't defeat the High Republic dark side jedi without letting the force ghost of a strong black woman possess you to do it.
>>736030813>Years hearing people hype up Ulic and Exar Kun only for them to be legit unbelievably fucking retarded and deserve everything they get and more.The perennial curse of never revealing legends to the audience. It takes very good authors to do a "legend" in a story or mythology justice. Usually the authors are too stupid, and make the characters retarded and incompetent, leaving the audience with the question, "How much more fucking stupid was the rest of the world/galaxy if this stupid motherfucker became a legendary figure of power and cunning?"
>>736024615>>736025915>>736027151yeah this shit is why I cant take starwars media seriouslyon the one hand there are cinematic fags demanding the canon be like the movies where no one has energy shield and every saber hit must instantly remove something on the other are the gamefags which want fights to actually last a bit longer so they can have fun with the system so they write in said energy shields
>>736051016Go to sleep, Contreras. Your redditor way of leading questions doesn't work here.
>>736023683>Jedi Survivorto bad its so boring
>>736050443aotc dooku actually had some nobility and class to him despite falling to the dark sideit's all the extended material that turned him into a saturday morning cartoon villain
Could Cal beat Dooku?
>>736052362noif we want to powerlevelfag cal he's about as strong as a lower tier knight meanwhile dooku could go toe to toe with windu, yoda, and anakin
>>736028975>frieren faggot talking about storylmao. kekarooni even
>>736023683>can't do an evil playthroughKOTOR won
>>736054986Being evil in Kotor is retardedYou are just an asshole for no reason
>>736055218Granted, KOTOR's evil is very cartoonish and not particularly satisfying, but it's about the simple fact that the option exists.I don't like that the Jedi games force me into playing the clichéd "wholesome underdog resistance fighter" without any flexibility. KOTOR wins purely for offering more roleplay options, not the quality of its options.
>>736055461it's probably because the jedi games can't be assed to an have alternate route for being evil, however slight those may be
>>736023683>Disney WarsNo, it's automatically shit. I'd tell you to get some taste but anyone advocating for Star Wars in the modern day is likely a shill before they're someone with bad taste.
>>736023683In terms of combat yes, but obviously in terms of roleplaying Kotor mogs and also in terms of lore/writing Kotor is more interesting especially for Kotor 2. They're very different games
>>736048415uh oh! melty!
>>736025915>What is Jedi Outcast?
>>736027151no, theyre all bullet sponges. Other fags simply seem to avoid this answer.
>>736028510>They remembered that it's more fun if enemies have some health instead of dying in one hithow about they block and you look for an opening to strike instead? Kinda like... Sekiro....?Imagine if instead of their health bar they had a "block" bar. That would be wild. But they will never invent such thing. Instead it will be Dark Souls 4 with laser swords
>>736056563I'm killing most stormtroopers and droids in 1 or 2 hits. How is that a bullet sponge?
>>736056691>cherrypicking the most primitive few enemies that were also in the first gameok.... how about 90% of the enemies? How about the boss fights and the robots and the frogs? Why bother with all them combos if all the enemies die 1-2 hits like you say, Mr. Goldberg?
>>736056830The animals die in 2 hits and bosses are bosses. There isn't really any combos unless I'm missing something
>lightsabers cant cut people for some reason retarded
>>736061130There's dismemberment in Survivor
>>736064154only arm dismembermentdisney is too pussy to allow leg/ decapitation on people
>>736056676Imagine if they both block and have enough health to survive more than one hit. Kinda like... Sekiro....?
>>736031491Revan isn't that great a fighter, his strength was Charisma, but Starkiller is too much
>>736028680This guy! I was really hoping he would be a secret boss in the second one. You technically don't see him die in the original. Maybe he'll show up in the 3rd one.
>>736056676Is this a joke post? That's already in the game
The same guy who wrote the story for these 2 games is doing the story for the xcom star wars game.
>>736046112EA themselves said they are working on the 3rd one.
>>736049797there's a reason why it's always down to like 10 dollaridoos every time it goes for sale, they gave up on fixing it and just basically throwing it away for chump changes
>>736068174revan was a decent fighter in his day, not the greatest but certainly not the worst starkiller was a good fighter but iirc his real talent was force aptitude both revan and starkiller both mog cal when it comes to force ability, and would likely smoke cal if all of them were at their peak at the end of their respective games
>>736068386I would rather fight that guy again instead of the actual final boss in Survivor. He's so fucking lame.
>>736068467the jedi games have a story?
>>736049797play at locked 30fps
Reminder that younglings are trained and deadly soldiers, and thus, legitimate targets in a war
>>736068605padawans are legitimate targets because the jedi promoted them to generals, but the younglings were not
>>736068605Killing children is never just
>>736023683>soulslikeKeep that bullshit away from western games.
>>736028975>picked up a lightsaber and uses it as a baseball batpretty much.Baseball combat not lightsaber combat.souls like, not jedi game.I was really mehhed by it. I rather replay Jedi outcast/academy again.
