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This is the most exciting TBT game releasing this April.
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>>736026347
I bought Troubleshooter recently, so I'll be playing that instead.
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>>736026347
in theory it should be good but game and its graphic seems as exciting as tax form. Openxcom unironically seems like an upgrade
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Does this still have the dogfighting minigame from the first?
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>>736026347
>[Optional] Leave before reinforcements arrive in 9 turns
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>>736028275
>anon terrified at not being able to overwatch crawl the entire map
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>>736028332
Did Xenonauts 1 even have a dedicated overwatch? I think it was reaction shots instead.
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>>736028182
https://youtu.be/RC3WA3FREVc?si=QXB4dDTIgVzmcsDT&t=167
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>>736026347
What's that? UFO defense remaster?
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>>736028383
Xenonauts 2
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>>736028365
Overwatch makes sense only in terrible nuXCom 'two actions per turn' approach. Games with time-units/action points have reaction shoot instead.
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>>736026347
The graphics look not unlike shit
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>>736026347
How does this get visually mogged by the original that came out 30 years ago?
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>>736026347
it's over, games are done.
>but muh indy
half arsed crap doesn't deserve recognition just because. add some fucking graphics, faggots
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>>736030410
Play Menace or Jagged Alliance 3, they have graphics.
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>>736026993
>muh graphics
how /v/ has fallen
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>>736030567
>Menace
early acces is an instant no. too much abandoned crap out there.
> Jagged Alliance 3
a bit meh imo

I need more games like this with good game mechanics and graphics, not one or the other. lazy devs can suck it
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>every single post is about graphics
this place is actually worse than reddit at this point
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>>736026347
Been waiting forever for this shit to come out. Been having that XCOM itch too so perfect timing. Just hope it is good.
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>>736030893
go play ascii dorffort you fucking faggot
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>>736030410
too bad for you but the best tbt game to come out this year is coming in may and its going to be indie
mars tactics obviously
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I remember trying xenonauts 2 a few years ago and being incredibly bored, how has it improved? why play it over UFO defense?
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>>736026993
It is better
>>736026347
It's been out for years, it's just leaving early access and it still sucks
>>736028372
It's not the same without the kickass music
https://youtu.be/MLb8q3hhsuo?si=5ZxJzx4UetTEnmTp
>>736030893
Well no one plays it for it's dogshit mechanics
Why do I still play OpenXCOM? Because you can't miss at point blank even if it says 27% accuracy because of how weapon projectiles are handled. Vs a game like this where you can miss with 90%+ chance to hit at point blank.
Phoenix Point is like the only one of these nu-xcom likes that got it right; too bad the rest of the game is "mid/meh" mediocre. There is one really good mod worth playing it for, terror from the void, but other than that, there's no, like, long war or whatever.
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>>736031239
we'll see
>inb4 mostly positive
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>>736031239
But it will release as EA.
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>>736031627
will it? I thought the dev wanted to make a full release to clown even harder on the menace devs
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>>736031627
see
mostly positive at best

early acces sucks monkeycock
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>>736031770
No official word but I really doubt it'll be a normal release. Not long ago they were still itinerating with key elements like strategy layer.
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>>736031323
>There is one really good mod worth playing it for, terror from the void
Wrong, TFTV is what makes PP mediocre, without it it is simply awful and eitherway it is never worth playing
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>>736029167
JA2 had it figured out almost 30 years ago, in a way it worked like reaction shots like in og x-com but instead of your soldier auto shooting rpg into your own team like retard you had control over the reaction manually, you could use all available AP as you fit or skip turn. Idk how nobody did it like this since.
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>>736032020
I can respect this opinion, but the base game has gotten updates for 5+ years bringing it closer in line to totv.
>>736032226
Yep. Ja2 is perfect.
Ja3 is...ok decent semi good. better than the other 3 or 4 shit ja that came out between then and now.
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>>736030567
Jagged Alliance 3 was mediocre, not worth time or money
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>>736033805
>not worth time or money
that game could be bought few months ago for like 2$ in humble bundle sale and mogs majority of recent releases
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>>736032226
Silent Storm was the only other game that did it right
It is a shame, since nothing from the time Silent Storm Sentinels was released didn't even come close to to it, nor to JA2 which was better game
and no, JA3 is a pile of shit, so was nu XCom
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>>736033938
maybe, but it is not even close to J2
it inherited the horrible 'enemies have a free move a start of the combat to get into positions' mess from nuXcom, making ambushing impossible
it also has such a horrible weapons balance that the only way to play it is with complete rebalance mods
I actually enjoyed Gears Tactics much more - it is a silly power fantasy game, but at least it doesn't pretend to be anything more
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>>736032739
Overwatch is real nice in ja3 and how it should have worked in nucom.Pick a direction and get their remaining ap+1 actions with a reduced rate in a cone. Xcom is fuckin tile based this should have been the first inclination for them
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>>736032226
JA2 is such an ambitious game, you have both characterization that rivals classic CRPG series and deep tactical turn based combat that is still yet to be toppled.
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>>736034805
why do you even need cone? JA2, Classic XCom just had direction you're looking
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>>736028845
That's not Xenonauts 2. Xenonauts 2 has a comfy Sims 1 aesthetic.
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>>736026347
>been in early access since years
>still looks exactly the same as back then
>uses the same sound effects as X1
What the literal FUCK have these devs been doing all this time?
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>>736030840
its not about the graphics, its the shitty aesthetics, even the og ufo enemy unknown from motherfucking 1993 looks better with its comic book aesthetics

shit even the lighting looks better
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>>736037079
Its so you can set the range so you dont waste shots at ngubu running around a mile away
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>>736037610
Yeah it's crazy how OG XCOM still holds up yet xenonauts always looked outdated even day 1.
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I wish I liked pic related. It has some really promising ideas but the game isn't there for me yet with shit like the sec-ai directing guards and not to be a grafixfag but it looks like fucking Second Life at times
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>>736026347
Xenonauts 2?
Seems fun I liked the first one well enough.
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>>736028365
It did not.
If your units had enough TU to shoot they could potentially maybe if youre lucky shoot someone.
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>>736030232
Is it because you haven't looked at xcom 1 in 30 years and dont remember how it looks? I bet its that.
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>>736026347
Should I play xenonauts 1 first?
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>>736038951
From what I recall its an alternate universe. Setting may be similar but I don't think it is necessary.
Its pretty good though mechanically better than original xcom
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>>736038943
>he doesn't play modded UFO defense
Outed. Xenonaughts 2 is visually ugly, as a style. Not fidelity.
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>>736039248
>needs a mod to understand how to play ufo defense
Play it vanilla like a real man.
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>>736030840
Yes, graphics, music and sound design matter. One of the things that made the original XCOM so good was the atmosphere, which the art and sound contributed greatly to.
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>>736038702
Looks woke and gay.
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>>736039547
Have you played xenonauts or are you just assuming from a still imagine that the sound design sucks
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>>736038943
No
I saw it recetly and it's incredible how flat xenonauts looks by comparison.
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>>736026347
Why play this over OG XCOM or xenonauts?
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>>736042730
Campaign pace is a straight improvement over original where you don't get punished for playing good. Now, why play it over XCOM, that's a good question.
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How do you reply without sounding mad?
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>>736043435
What the fuck did he mean by this



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