Foxs fur is going to be super HD
Star Fox 64... again
>>736047029You could make the best F-Zero/Star Fox/Wave Race game ever, made in its predecessor's image. It would never be enough.Gamers don't have the kind of relationship with replay value that 90's Nintendo/AV made games in mind with.A lot needs to happen culturally to inspire people towards familiarizing themselves with,and even crave an experience rooted in, that context. (arcade design)"I want cheaper, shorter games, with worse graphics, more sustainable development and I'm not kidding."You can't do any of that when the majority of people come from that era of Nintendo fans,who were happy to see Star Fox turn into a Ubisoft Toys-To-Life AssCreed Tower game,or think the only way to save the series is "do what XYZ 3rd Party entry did but betterer and biggerer this time!".You gotta re-introduce missing context in design philosophy and appeal to the average Switch owner.
>>736047029Completely ignore Command and all of its horrible fanfiction, and make a sequel to Assault.
Star Fox suffers from the same issue that Character Action games suffer from.CAG's, even dating back to DMC1, bank on the idea of shoving high production value, world building, characters and such,into a narrow interpretation of Beat Em Ups, which eventually snowballed to the point of Platinum Gamestrying their hardest to appeal to casuals who only care about these superficial elements.CAG's are dead. They're going the way of Rail Shooters.It's partially because CAG's tried really hard to have their cake and eat it, too,making for a vague representation of arcade design, but casuals don't care about any of that,so you swim upstream and make them as fancy and expensive as possible, because at the very least the Action RPG elements make them accessible to casuals.Dark Souls pretty much took that appeal completely by being a better RPG, and being affordable enough to make (not even dialogue animations)Star Fox is in that exact dilemma.Yes, I do think players who care about Star Fox the story/characters/world/presentation are just as useless for the survival of the genre as the examples above.Star Fox will never survive trying to represent the casuals who don't actually play it for the score chasing game that it is,because the production value and such cannot undo a complete and utter lack of interest in arcade design that fundamentally exists in its conception.
15 years of internet history and me talking to people who actively made videos about star fox,And the moment they start talking about "what is the appeal of star fox?"Star Fox kinda just shot itself in the foot by being such a casual console friendly experience.It allows people to take so many aspects of what they like about it, especially because it can be played at that casual level endlesslywithout ever engaging with the scoring system Nintendo's deverlopers clearly hoped people would engage with.So you end up wanting more of those characters, the world, the music, the story.Every element that was tacked on to the arcade rail shooter score chasing gameto make it a marketable product was as accessible as the gameplay on a skindeep levelYou can just play Star Fox 64 as a childrens game with little engagement of its deeper elements.That nostalgia gets people attached to all of its art assets and more superficial elements.
>>736047029A straightforward game with no gimmicks to ruin it.
Oh the poor copy pasta fags. Gonna be working over time until that movie leaves the public noosphere. At least you'll have something to do now until the next one comes out in like 3-5 years (movie not starfox game).
>>736047029Miyu tits in 4K
>>736049475Realistically speaking, what mario game(s) are they even going to adapt in the next movie? the galaxy movie exhausted pretty much every mainline mario to reference from. Are they gonna adapt the next 3D mario? But if so, if the daisy post credits scene is true, how will they fit her in? Clearly they won't adapt super mario land if they skipped Odyssey and world. maybe sarasaland is a place you can visit in the next 3D mario assuming it's open world which would justify daisy's role?
>>736049996>Realistically speaking, what mario game(s) are they even going to adapt in the next movie?Mario games?>the rest of your postNigga if you actually think they aren't gonna pull the plug on that live action abomination that Sony is making. MARIO TO THE PAST LOL, WE'RE GOING BACK IN TIME MARVEL STYLE AND GETTING LINK ON THE BIG SCREEN
>>736047029A game with some mechanics from games like Starlink, no man's sky and Starfiled would be interesting. Just dont make it an arcade rail shooter, that boomerslop genre is obsolete as fuck
the Thunderbirds puppet art direction from the first gamemiyu and fay "canon"
>>736047029What I want and that Starlink semi touched it but not enough.ACE COMBAT, with Starfox characters and pilot special abilities.
>>736047029Starfox fags will hate it because it's not 64. Also what will the gimmick be. I betting it will ahipmqith some sort of starfox eye visor parapheal that will display your hud and tgere will be a mobile app where you'll get messages on your phones feom sloppy etc
>>736047029If they put Krystal in it, give her a jacket and ascot like the rest of the crew. Also, I'd love to see Miyu, Faye, and all those characters from the beta show up
>>736056071>If they put Krystal in it, give her a jacket and ascot like the rest of the crew.Respect. >Also, I'd love to see Miyu, Faye, and all those characters from the beta show upBased.
MORE FURRY BABES!
>>736049475I'm saving that and adding it to my wallpaper rotation
Sequel to Assault. No ground levels. I don't really care what they do, just make it good and try to expand on 64s multiple paths, I don't want ground missions or gimmick shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_jXfsJ_s4c This video is gonna age very poorly, isn’t it?
as long as krystal sexo...........im good..........
>>736058514Why would it? Historically, for as much as Metroid is a B-list franchise at best, Nintendo has always given way more of a damn about Samus than Fox.
Call me crazy, I just want them to expand on the original Star Fox. I prefer the obstacle course, hectic design of the original as well as the overall atmosphere to anything that came after. I just want a large variety of levels and no all range mode. It's a hell of a pipe dream though.
>SF 64 normies: Just make SF64 again lol, creativity is for faggots>SF Assault Brads: Just make Assault, but bigger and better>SF Adventures Chads: Make Adventures, but with Assault weapons and staff powers
>>736047029star fox assault x warhawk
>>736047029How about a Star Fox game like Mass Effect? Hang out on the Great Fox between missions, visit different planets and colonies, pick up side characters to join you on your journey, RPG dialogue options that lead you down different storylines each playthrough.
>>736060051> option to join star wolf after becoming increasingly disgusted with the cornerian military> falco/peppy/slippy may go with you if fox has enough Relationship points with them> but to do this you also need avoid Injuring (empty hp bar) Wolf/Panther/Leon during any scuffles with them or else Negotiate your way out of fighting them
>>736060051This could work really well. Just replace the Mako with the Landmaster and make a quest system that lets you take jobs for pay like a real mercenary, and put all the space levels on the galaxy map.
They should design the gameplay around something close to rogue squadron 2. Big instanced areas to fly around and shoot stuff in with some set missions and optional objectives. Maybe have a few giant areas as well, and for multiplayer have a range of size of different maps including the ultra large ones for 32v32Just do not fully chase the on rails mission design. 64 is immensely fun but that's because it's short and doesn't overstay its welcome, that type of gameplay gets old fast and cant work for a 12-25 hour experience
You actually think you're getting another Star Fox after Miyamoto sabotaged the last one?
>>736060051I mean there is clearly a very obvious gap Nintendo could fill by making a 3rd person squad shooter out of Star Fox, especially given the number of crew would give a decent variety of different squads
>>736061509I still think it should primarily be a vehicle shooter
>>736060006FUCK i meant starhawk
Something other than SF64 for the fourth time.
>>736062851But we only had SF64 one time...
>>736047029i'll be fine as long as it is not another reboot/remake/reimagination
>>736047029My hope is for someone to make a really good game inspired by it after nintendo continues to do nothing with the series.
new Layeyez art
Slopfox was never good
the "gimballed cannons" of zero got me thinkingmaybe there is something to this omnidirectional aimingso i wanted to try something
>>736047029Revisit the nonlinear strategy map of 2 and Command. Different types of mission instead of it being the same thing every time; destroy X enemies, blow up X buildings, kill a boss, along with the infiltrating a base to blow it up missions from 2. Choose your pilot to hear different dialogue and use different special abilities, and choose from a wide variety of ships with different weapon systems.
>>736069864This shit don't make any sense unless they radically redesign the vehicle. Imagine an X-Wing's guns firing at something 90 degrees parallel to itself. If they include multiple ship options, it could be reserved for like a bomber Arwing or something with a secondary turret. At least depict the guns being able to physically swivel.
Krystal Ball
>people won't le buy a 30 minute game in this day and age!Make it a roguelite, there, fucking fixed
>>736073778Star Fox already has some of the typical trappings of a Roguelike anyway. Just lean into it more explicitly and don't make alternate routes solely dependant on score.
>>736047029That both the classic and possible adventure game sell better than Star Fox 64.Seriously, Star Fox needs to escape SF64's shadow. I do not care how. Sure, I have my own personal wishes for the game(s), but I just want a long-term future secured for the Star Fox brand. I want the game(s) to become series best-sellers and revive Star Fox as a series.That said, I do not think Nintendo would be about to make a massive Star Fox push like this if they were not confident.
>>736047029star fox 64 but betterI just need a good fucking rail shooternone of that "collect the 5 funkywunkies for the secret shit" like every other gamenone of those 40 minute levels with a gay gimmick nobody asked forjust give me a rail shooter with branching paths, a good scoring system, and make it GOOD.>b-b-b-b-but the franchise won't evolvethis is because japs would rather re-invent the wheel at the cost of making it worse when they already have a good, existing wheel.
>people think this is happeningLMAO
>new locations>lots of alternate routes and endings>stick with the main 4 or bring in the Star Fox 2 cast>multiplayer mode with online>no stupid gimmicks: not in-game, not with the controlsThat's it. Why is it so difficult?
>>736052373Honestly, Ace Combat, Sky Crawlers, Air Force Delta, etc, with some rail shooter or alternate vehicle sequences (that don't fucking suck) is pretty much right up the alley of Star Fox.>Corneria vs. either Andross or some new faction, actually try to not be black and white like Zero was lightly hinting at with Corneria burning Andross>but there's multiple sub-groups of aces, mercs, and squadron leaders making headlines in the conflict>Star Fox comes in and starts gunning down things as their reputation goes from "defunct" to "war aces", Star Wolf gets hired by the opposing side as the counter-op, and both squads get revered and hated, supported and hunted alike>explore the characters between missions, why they do things the way they do, who's got rivalries or friendships behind the curtains, who's got an actual leg in the war and who is just in it for the money, etcYou straight up have a formula for story and design waiting for it all, but people would complain it's not arcade enough.
I really want the comms style from Starlink to return.Instead of a small box with sprites used to make the character look like they are speaking, Starlink actually had fully animated models.You see your current pilot in the corner of the screen the entire time. And its really cool because you actually see them interact as you play the game.>Just cruising around? Fox will occasionally scan the environment with his scouter.>In the middle of a fight? You will see Fox lock in and cheer once the battle is won.>Crash into something? Watch Fox recoil from the hit in realtime.It allows you to actually see and feel like you are playing AS the pilot. Such a brilliant touch that I really loved in Starlink.
>>736077645This is a small touch that would build on what the original SNES/64 portraits were always trying to convey.
>>736077773Exactly. There is just so much more you can do with a living, breathing model you can see than just mugshots.
>>736047029I will see if I can get myself invested in Star Fox.I plan on buying myself a Wii U.
>>736060051I've said for ages that rail shooters might be the most untapped genre in terms of potential ways to "modernize" them and make them interesting to a non-arcade audience, but nobody seems to really want to promote the genre.
>>736078246>>736077645>Switch 2 has facial camera tracking>Turn players into furry avatars for multiplayer gamingAnon may actually be onto something.
>>736047184>who were happy to see Star Fox turn into a Ubisoft Toys-To-Life AssCreed Tower game,When did this happen?Is that what starlink battle for atlas is? Or did you mean to type zelda?
>>736047504>Every element that was tacked on to the arcade rail shooter score chasing game>to make it a marketable product was as accessible as the gameplay on a skindeep levelVery trueSo the obvious answer is to make a wing commander // freelancer clone with star fox characters
>>736047029I like the idea of a space mercenary team simulator, where you do missions around the Lylat System across different planets and sectors for money, which you need to upkeep the Great Fox and pay bills. Recruit new teammates from various places (either ex-military conscripts or seedy space colonies) and add them to your payroll, and have them do actual useful things during missions, following your commands. Buy different loadouts and upgrades for each arwing in your hangar, which can be different types of arwings (bombardier class, fighter class, scout class). Loadouts can change how your weapons work, you can swap a chargeable homing laser for a rapid-fire vulcan, or hyper lasers. They also change your powerup tree during missions (vulcan cannon, for instance, can have an increased number of barrels firing at once). I'd like to actively avoid open world meme slop, but perhaps there should be secrets you can find, such as secret missions, pilots or upgrades for your ship. But the core gameplay is very arcade style and doesn't make use of any lousy half-baked RPG mechanics.
>>736079050wouldnt it just be easier for there to be a star fox oc creator menu BUT it only matters for online play? so as to not bog down the story with (you) somehow being as important or skilled a pilot as fox or wolf
>>736047029There's a Starfox on Switch?Where was that confirmed?
>>736079290I think a good template for a (quasi) open world (galaxy?) star fox would be a look at kh3's gummi section.You can fly to any planet you like and theres secret upgrades or new ships to unlock piloting thru deep space, and even secret bosses.Id also be pro- straight up ripping off the gummi creator menu and letting people make insanely convulted arwing designs with myriad weapons or armors.
>>736064096Whisker squadron already exists
>>736073425Pondering my orb
>>736077645>Nintendofags impressed with technology used in fucking carmageddon 1
I just want to go boots on the ground again. Even in the classic game have a mission or two where you are Fox charging in on foot. One can be all-range like in Assault and one on-rails like Sin and Punishment.
>>736080914>the classic game have a mission or two where you are Fox charging in on footNo it doesn't
>>736079369>not bog down the story with (you) somehow being as important or skilled a pilot as fox or wolfVery few people would give a shit about this, probably just fags here on /v/ actually, just ot make token complaints. Sonicfags didn't get up in arms over Forces allowing you to make a donut steel who helps save the day and even saves Sonic's ass.Hell, as early as Star Fox 2 you could defeat Star Wolf and Andross as Slippy and Peppy while Fox sits twiddling his thumbs inside the mothership. Same with Command, although that game actually did change the story depending on which dialogue route you followed and which characters you were controlling. If Falco saves the day without Fox, it turns out he wasted his time going after some side boss scrub while Fox was still the real big hero.
>>736079478It's an unsubstantiated rumour that we're getting two different Star Fox games in the near future. The rumour mill is working overtime following Fox's confirmed appearance in the new Mario movie.
>>736079686The game that's so thoroughly abandoned that the team who made it no longer exists?
>>736081081Never said it did. Just that it could. SF64 had a single Blue Marine mission. This came could and should have one or two on-foot missions.
>>736081897You literally didn't say it could, did you forget to type the word out?
>>736082089> I just want to go boots on the ground again. Even in the classic game have a mission or two where you are Fox charging in on foot.My statement was a suggestion, not a claim that is has an on-foot mission.Basically saying that even in the classic game, they could have a mission or two on-foot. Would not be out-of-place if executed well.
>>736081624The rumors happened before the movie reveal...
>>736081897Supposedly 64 was going to include one or two stages involving Fox running around on-foot, and the multiplayer mode you get for earning all the medals on Expert is a leftover remnant.https://youtu.be/dQ7baJdOI8Q?t=66
>a vodya news site says Nintendo is mad that their plans got leaked >when all we have are rumors and no actual proof of anythingAnything for clicks, right?
>>736082243>Even in the classic game have a mission or twoIt doesn't make grammatical sense and comes across as if you think it has on-foot missions. try this instead:>Even the classic game could use a mission or two
>>736082442Yellow journalism of all kinds needs to be punishable by death
>>736082594I mean I assume he's referring to the leak mentioning that one of the games will be "classic" style. All he needed was a comma.>Even in the classic game, have a mission or two
>>736082743Thank you.
>>736082430Is neat that they still included what was left of it
Anything but an overpriced 5 hour long rail shooter
>>736077453well I also meant changing weapons for arwing, different models of arwings with different stats/ functions, ability to fly enemy machines like wolfen, and customization.Along with pilot specific abilities.So I could see Arwing V1 B with Fzero paint job with Falco, bombing an Andross base, and if you do special challenges you unlock Leon pilot/ his wolfen.
>>736082430Exactly! Have a few on-foot missions in the classic game to get players warmed up to it, then have a lot of it in the adventure game next year.Which reminds me, I really hope the adventure game is a shooter with fast-paced gunplay. Let us zip and zoom and shoot enemies while solving puzzles or whatever. Like a faster paced Zelda.And have vehicles. Let us traverse areas in the Landmaster and fly between areas in the Arwing. Going 90% on-foot is not the play. Star Fox should have both on-foot and vehicles.
Does the next Star Fox have a Halo-style online multiplayer mode with 20 player TDM? Experts say yes.
>>736083353If I could get something like Strike Vector but with arwings I'd die content.
They need to expand the cast with a variety of new and interesting characters. It's good for initial worldbuilding to have characters with small roles on the periphery that imply something larger (Kat, Bill etc.) but it begins to feel lacking the instant you try and tell a more involved story. This was one of the ways Assault came up short, since there were so few people to actually care about.
It's existed for over thirty years and almost twenty of those were spent with no meaningful new games. People must really love this series.
>>736084210its half love the game the other half love fox x (your fave)
>>736084051I would love to see a new invading faction. Not the Aparoids, but something like have Cerinia be destroyed by this Viltrumite-like race and they followed Krystal to Lylat to conquer it as well.
>>736084870> krystal villain arcthis is how wolfoxfags can still win
you guys believe in the second game?
>>736078926The on-rail segments could be missions you select, and the boss at the end could be the bounty you're looking for
>>736079369After tomodachi life the last thing I want is an OC creator, the idea of pronouns and non-binary characters in star fox fills me with dread
Has it ever been confirmed if Nintendo are oblivious about Star Fox being a mercenary outfit the same way they thought Samus being a bounty hunter just meant "space adventurer"? Because I want a game where you choose jobs from different factions/employers for money in order to pay for upgrades and overheads. Because that's what Star Fox ought to be doing.
>>736086080Now anonwhat if the starfox theythemie is still an hourglass shaped womanyou surely fork over your sheckles to be a good hmofa poaster wouldn't you
>>736086219well since team starfox is all part of the cornerian military, yes, they think merc. means "adventure" with no clear "hired-gunrunner for any job for money"They got it right with Wolfs team though, bizarrely
>>736086219Oblivious? Not likely. The whole point of Adventures is that the team HAD to take the distress call because they refused to accept a stable military job and they were so strapped for cash that they couldn’t pay for ship maintenance. But in typical Nintendo fashion it’s always a possibility that they want to downplay or retcon all of that.
>>736076398Thing is it's a switch 2 exclusive, think the only switch 2 games that sold over 4 million were MK (bundled) and Z-A (barely) dunno what DK sits at currently but last I checked it was around 3 million, and star fox is more niche than metroid, DK, Kirby, Zelda and especially pokemon, so, for it to sell well it'd either have to have stellar marketing (it kinda already has with the movie) and/or have normiebait elements, like an open world or heavy online components like splatoon.
>>736086626If they want SF NU GAME to sell then besides multiplayer streamerbait slop the most successful parts of the latest big seller games are> character creator> romance mechanics> open worldso...if you don't want those in star fox, you got to be praying they have 500k maybe sales expectations
>>736084051Agree, one of the issues with assault was that it couldn't commit to character deaths, by introducing cannon fodder you could have character deaths without culling the already small main cast, and who knows? Maybe one of the new characters ends up becoming a fan favorite more popular than series mainstays, hell, krystal is more popular than Katt, Fay, Miyu and Fara and Panther is more popular than Pigma, Andrew and Bill despite being introduced later
>>736082442that was enough for pyoro to get killed, so
>>736087305well being fair Panther is a cat which is an objectively more popular species than pig or lizard and Krystal is the Smurfette of the franchise who only exists so the 3 OSA furries (sorry, hmofa!) posters that exist have their token woman of the decade.
>>736086823>open world>romance optionsI want these though, sure, it would be cringe to have the option to romance slippy and bill but it's worth it if I can romance Falco or Fay>character creatorI don't want this because of >>736086080regardless, BotW didn't need a character creator to sell well, and Fox is a strong enough template character like Link to not need one>>736086285Bold of you to assume I'm not a fursona self-inserter
>>736086365Adventures wasn't made in-house, though, I don't know how much input they had on how Rare decided to use the characters. You'll notice that Fox is kind of a douche in that game compared to anything else he's appeared, it took him a while to warm up and give a shit about the plight of the dinos.
>>736087554>so the 3 OSA furries (sorry, hmofa!) posters that existIt’s kind of wild that, by your own admission, the idea of “hmofa fans” is a niche minority of an already niche subculture, but their presence enrages people like you enough that you’re compelled to bring them up unprovoked whenever possible. Are the gayfurs really THAT fragile about having female presence in their games?
Please give us Fay, Miyu, and Faraday so the cast can stop feeling so bereft of decent female characters. Kat only shows up to do some Catwoman flirting and Krystal hasn't had a stable role since leaving her debut game.
>>736086080Yeah an OC creator would be something that instantly turns me away from the game. Even for a huge Star Fox fan like me, that would be too much.
>>736090552but what if (you[male]) could have a Romance with Fox?What if (YOU) could cuck the 3 most popular ships (falco/wolf/krystal) for Fox?
>>736086080What's with this hate for OC? You control the buttons you press, nobody is forcing you to make a bunch of trannies.
Starfox doesn't need an OC avatar maker that'd just syphon funds away from more meaningful development time. It Does however need an option to customise the clothing of the entire squadron, including colour sliders.
>>736079369I would fucking love an OC maker, and I'm sure that would sell phenomenally well thanks to furrybux, but I also feel like they're not self-aware enough to realize that fact. It's the kind of thing that would probably only exist in a world where Star Fox was already a super successful IP behind Zelda and the like, and it was implemented into some kind of side spin-off. Would pair great with a mode to design your own ship (or at least build one out of preset parts) and draw your own team logo.>>736091834Better not to have cool stuff if there's a chance people you don't like would also enjoy it, I guess?
>>736091929I'd say it's more important to be able to customize your ships, I want Star Fox to be Nintendo's Armored Core.
>>736092034sex creatures...
>>736091929Idc color sliders but if its gonna have any kinda like "walk around the great fox and talk to fellow crewmates for relationship points" then at least alt. outfits are a must.(its also easy Summer/Halloween/Xmas dlc outfit bait)Id give everyone their 64 uniforms and a casual "civilian" set to start and you unlock more completing missions.You get special outfits with unique abilities/buffs/new arwing customization options at certain Relationship levels with everyone.
>>736091834Because I do not want OCs in a Star Fox game at all. Whatsoever. None of them.Star Fox is not Mass Effect. Not a furry sim.
I’d say, reboot it again
>>736092034Well anonthe last time an incredibly minor under-the-radar nintendo franchise was brought back from the depths of obscurity, they did add oc makers....We mean, of course, FE Awakening.And we know what a roaring success that was.So it is possible.We can't even "oh too many furry species it'd be such an ordeal to implement" when Sonic did that.So it COULD very well happen. OC creators do get big attention and aid in sales, theres no denying.
>>736092327Incorporating the fox tail into the logo really should be retained as part of the visual design. I know Zero sort of brought it back with the brush effect on the kanji, but it felt removed from the actual logo itself.
>>736092071Being able to customise your ships should go without saying if Nintendo have any fucking braincells. Including being able to put together a logo/decals. But a costume option to dress Fox in shorts and a vest or Peppy as Santa may not be as immediately obvious.
>>736092437They could do a thing where only the player character is OC, you play a new rookie member of the SF team. Unlike the SF team, an OC character can be morally ambiguous and potentially join the bad guys, which would be good for a Mass Effect type game.
>>736093035imagine...krampus-wolf...Nindy could fund a lunar colony.
>>736047029all I care about is fox. I don't give two shits about his dumb wingmen that always need saving. least of all that annoying fat fuck slippy
>>736047029>star fox 2simple. multiplayer game where one side plays corneria/pepper/star fox and the other plays venom/andross/star wolf
>>736093147>They could do a thing where only the player character is OC, you play a new rookie member of the SF team.I really dislike it when games do this. Stories with a complete cypher as the lead don't feel like they have staying power. I'd really just prefer to play as Fox.
>>736047029Kid Icarus Uprising but with a scifi furry skin and character/ship customization.Anything else is a mistake.
>>736093425You seem to have tumbled out of a portal from 2007.
>>736092034A nintendo star fox OC avatar system sounds great on paper, but in reality would probably be really underwhelming
>>736092327Although other series have suffered under Miyamoto's mandates for minimalistic storytelling, I think the Star Fox series is one that suffers the most from his stubbornness to continue a story based IP. Honestly the story line was cohesive enough from 64 to assault with even Command being a decent branching point even if multi storytelling doesn't fit this type of IP IMO. I don't understand why he thinks reusing the same story 4 times now is going to attract a greater audience in what's already attached now.
>>736093669I can see it going to the team refers to the OC avatar as kid, newbie, or whatever and they take a junior apprenticeship under Fox and the team. Keeping them in the background scenes, asking them to do research and scanning, while we act as a satellite character to the main story. Maybe near the end the OC can break off and start their own smaller mercenary team which can get reference in future games so as to not being needed in future games.
>>736093518I disagree, I think this is exactly what the franchise needs in order to tell a different story. They're stuck in a loop where Fox has to fight the villain of the week and save the day, an OC could have a much more open-ended story.
>>736093540>you play as fox doing acrobatics with white angel wings while shooting arrows like cupidhaha gay
>>736093147I'd finally do a Bad Guy route in this type of game.Though a final battle with Star Wolf where Fox focuses on (you) instead of Wolf would be...weird, at least.Especially since (you) would invariably be a voiceless nobody and the fans adore fox and wolfs banter and relationship.Course, conversely, having (you) be the one to put down fox (assuredly nonlethal) would be pretty emotional for a lot of players if you spent like half the game as fox's trainee and doing missions with Star Fox.
>>736093893I think it's just an overall attitude that their franchises have to remain "evergreen" or whatever, that a new fan should be able to jump in and immediately comprehend anything and everything going on. Autistic Zeldafags rode their ass for years about an official timeline and they finally laid it all out in an official lore book, only to then ignore it completely with BotW and just say "idk lol, it takes place after all the rest." Pikmin barely had any plot progression at all, mainly just introducing new characters to get involved, and they still felt the need to reboot it for 4 so Olimar can explain the shit going on for the fourth time. I'm frankly surprised that franchises like Metroid have never been hit with it yet.
Guys Fox’s appearance in the movie is a cross between his outfit in Zero (Belt buckle, headset, etc.) and his outfit in Adventures (Sleeveless jacket)His appearance in the movie is going to be about the same as his appearance in the game, just like Donkey Kong from the first movie.This game will be a sequel to Zero. Zero is going to be the new timeline moving forward.
>>736094414Well you should feel like an asshole if you take the bad guy route, backstab your team and help Andross subjugate the system, it's kind of the point.
>>736094656So it will be called Star Fox One?
>>736094749Yes but!You're on Wolf's team...You're his biggest fan!
>>736094917Unironically possible. Or Star Fox “Zero-One”
>>736094949Maybe you're being manipulated by Andross, he's a smart monkey after all. He says some shit that makes a whole lot of sense, like he's trying to protect the system from an even greater threat and the Cornerians were the bad guys all along, but it turns out it's a big fat lie and then you blast his brains out. Now they're all dead and you're the ruler of the Lylat system.
>>736094589>overall attitude that their franchises have to remain "evergreen" or whatever, That still falls more on Miyamoto's control over his own created IPs, as you listed with his other games he helped created still had reset of sorts in recent years.>Autistic Zeldafags...official timeline.... ignore it completely with BotWZeldafags got what they deserved, as much as I love the IP the fandom can't get over the concept of cameos and Easter eggs can be just that in a game at times.>Pikmin barely had any plot progression at all, mainly just introducing new characters to get involved, and they still felt the need to reboot it for 4 so Olimar can explain the shit going on for the fourth time. The reboot definitely felt more like a Miyamoto order than anything else. The Pikmin universe works well with small contained stories DESU, rebooting it already when they could have continued the story with the 3rd game's team is a power showing.>I'm frankly surprised that franchises like Metroid have never been hit with it yet.Agreed but I'm still reluctant to give Sakamoto any credit considering the damage he did with other M still.
>>736094656>Zero is going to be the new timeline moving forwardI'd say that's probably a given. Even supposing they were to just ignore and overwrite the clusterfuck that is Command, Assault still came out like 20 years ago. I guess they could do the unthinkable and reboot it two games in a row. They'd have to be fucking imbeciles given tons of people were already annoyed with Zero for being a Lylat Wars retelling, but they could do it.
>>736095563I am thinking this will be a retelling of Star Fox 2, reintroducing Fay and Miyu. Next game will be an adventure that either reintroduces Krystal, OR Krystal has a minor supporting role in this game, then we get her as a main character in the adventure game.
>>736047029Is it true that Slippy is a boy?
>>736079369personally id love a OC maker but I'd rather they do that after re-establishing the seriesUltimately I think a donut steel would make for a good way to really flex around, flesh out and interact with the various factions since you aren't beholden to any existing criteria so it doesn't matter too much if literally who becomes a top fighter of [insert army here], Fox/Wolf/etcs buttbuddy (metaphorical or literal) or just supreme gigacha space murderhobo that will blast any nigga for half a bottle of booze and some pennies
Tomorrow is the big day for Fox McCloud!
>>736095720If you had to reintroduce Krystal into the post-Zero timeline you don't even need to retell the events of Adventures to do it. She can just show up through other means with a different backstory.
>>736095720Would you be OK with a retread of Star Fox 2 retaining the fact that all of Star Wolf bar Wolf himself die?
>>736049996>what mario game(s) are they even going to adapt in the next movie? Mario Lands 1 and 2 of course, with the movies leading into Wario Land which would be hype.
No Krystal.Or maybe just a cameo of her getting vaporized by laser fire.
>>736095950Of course not, don't be ridiculous. Does this sound like a boy's voice?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Afs2IsFsT0
>>736094656>>736095563How often does a failed re-boot get continued though? Ghostbusters went back to the original timeline, so did DmC, and Prince of Persia went back to Sands of Time after the '08 game. Not a lot of people played Zero so it seems weird to use that as the linchpin of the franchise going forward.
>>736047029I probably won't be getting it (especially since I don't have a Switch 2 yet), but I'm glad to see Nintendo only players haven't been left out of this recent flooding of space games
>>736058682If they want Star Fox to succeed they’ll go all in with the Waifu Fanservice. I will kneel and bow down.
>>736059851With SFA, why just stop there, make Krystal more involved and a co-protagonist that’s occasionally playable with her own set pieces.
>>73604702964 again because fuck you
>>736096723We shouldn't stop there; make her a Taimanin.
>>736096723I miss her bra and loincloth
>>736047029 Just make a really well made solid tribute to Starfox 64. Obviously make it longer and higher budget with lots of multiple pathways and maybe some really hard unlockable difficulties. And don't charge $70 bucks for it, people just want reasonably priced smaller games.
>>736095397I mean I'd rather give the option to Wolf.And then you serve as his loyal as his loyal dickp- I mean second in command, in his royal armada, ahaha.
>>736096995I'm sick of bad looking phone games, I want something spectacular and expensive-looking
>>736059851I definitely think a game similar to Assault but actually designed around the singleplayer part and with branching paths would be pretty radbeen spitballing in my head something along the lines of:>first playthrough is Fox, preset route thats mostly Arwing with some on foot>next playthroughs are preset as Falco (almost entirely Arwing), Slippy (almost entirely ground) and Peppy (mostly ground with some Arwing) whose routes play out different. >Example: Fox route starts off on-rails into on foot base assault, enemy flagship escapes as you destroy whatever shit they have in there forcing you to chase it leading to the next stage. >Falco route: goes into all-range instead of on foot, you have to keep aerial reinforcements down while you blast the flagship down, taking you on a different path.>>736096723considering that was how Dinosaur Planet was originally going to pan out, albeit with them splitting playtime to roughly half and half, that'd be pretty neatReminds me how Krystals Cloudrunner partner got the biggest downgrade from co-partner to "press a to talk to people" tutorial
>>736096383I think the best way to reintroduce Krystal would be to have her appear in a mission on Sauria, like Katt and Bill. That way fans get excited to see her more in the next game. Plus she could be a playable character in the online multiplayer.>>736096520Just write is so they get shot down. They crash and burn in SF64, yet return plenty.
The planet Fortuna disappeared from all games after SNES, I want to see it again.
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>>736097610It was the second half of Assault's first level, faithful to the green portion with plants from the first game. Zero went on to incorporate it as well, giving it a redesign as an exotic "air jungle" planet with huge vines growing up through the sky. Star Fox 2 eventually came out, and that game featured it as the designated water level.
If they remake 64, I want a mode where you can visit every planet.I want to play both MacBeth and Titania in the same run.
>>736097132The switch is a fucking glorified phone you retard. What do you expect? Maybe you shouldnt be a nintendo fan.
>>736098632I'm not a Nitnendo fan, their consoles suck. They should become a third party developer.
>>736058682Come on. Not even Miyamoto demanding Krystal to stay sexy will be respected. Americans are PROUD of their homosexuality so they will cut off her tits and remove her ass leaving as sexy as an Adventure Time character. You don't understand how shitty North Americans are.
>>736094656>venom is now a small, artificial planetoidDead on arrival
>>736099253You thirdies make impressive strides in trying to become as increasingly insufferable as you can.
>>736047029Kid icarus uprising, but with fox. Simple as
>>736099547Venom in Zero was basically an asteroid that was turned into a dimensional teleporter.So use the teleporter to bring in a new Venom more like the original. Or just have the Venom from Zero be a moon.
>>736099723Keep suffering under the tyranny of the Jews.
>>736047440Rail shooters kind of have that modern Sonic problem where they require massive set pieces and resources for what are ultimately short bursts of gameplay.Any attempt at evolving the genre to modern standards becomes exponentially more expensive and time consuming with little gain.
No more than two minutes of cutscenes.
>>736060051>How about a Star Fox game like Mass Effect?Nintendo actually turned that idea down sadly, Retro Studios pitched the idea to Nintendo iirc
>>736076398>Seriously, Star Fox needs to escape SF64's shadow.But enough about Yoshi’s Games after Yoshi’s Island, Mega Man Games after Megaman 2, you get the point.
>>736086219I think Nintendo just likes the idea of their heroes helping governments, law-enforcement and such without actually being part of such organizations, so they reuse terms like mercenary and bounty-hunter without even mentioning if they get paid.It's basically what Mario does. Helping out kingdoms out of kindness.
>>736086626>>736086626Fair point. I just want the game to be deemed a big success by Nintendo and well received by audiences.
I played Starlink solely as Fox following SF's story arc. I cannot overstate how little I gave a shit about the actual story of the game and I don't remember a thing about it. Hell, I never even used any other vehicle but the Arwing.
Playing through the first game on NSO in preparation.
I was happy my franchise was dead and not filled with NCU tourists having dishonest discussions on how to save a series they didn't care about until 2 weeks ago.My hopes and dreams are no games and if there is a game it flops horribly so my franchise can rest in peace.
>>736103631Good Luck!
It would be such a Nintendo move to remake Star Fox 1 at 60FPS and that's it.
Starfox 99 in the style of the SNES games. Just huge dogfights in 16 bit polygons.
>>736047440Once the rumor said 'classic Star Fox', I already wrote the game off in-terms of turning the franchise back into a heavy hitter. The Star Fox formula can sell maybe 2-3m if it's good and priced correctly but asking for more than that in an era where rail shooters are a dead genre is a tall ask.
>>736047029-Nvidia hairworks fur-Not another remake of Starfox/64-About the length of a Call of Duty campaign (6-8 hours)-Great Fox as an explorable space where you can have conversations with the crew, crew member specific missions (like ME2 loyalty missions), mini games for ship repairs and upgrades, select next mission, etc>Missions are a combination of rail shooter and more open areas>All of the levels should be easily accessible in one playthrough. Don't waste levels on the branching paths gimmick, most players won't see them.>If the game only lasts 1-3 hours for a playthrough, they shouldn't charge more than $30 for it. Most people will not be happy buying a full-priced game and reaching the credits in less than 6 hours.
>Ravadaduvadava>Bit-birit bit-birit>Godongendur>Binobbin-binbonobin
>>736105474good luck
>>736104280have some faith
>>736105474>DADABADABDADDAB>dabble-dee-dabble>dib-dibbit dib-dibbit>dib dudub dib dudub
>>736105474Wing wingwing damage
>>736100861Maybe it's sacriledge to some, but just severely cut down with onrail parts so most of the game plays more like rogue squadron.
>>736105474>>736105679>>736107247>>736107312>Wan wan wan! Wan! Wan wan!
Fourth vehicle option- hover bike.Faster paced than the Land Master, and more maneuverable. Weaker, but rapidfire laser.Tight lanes, something more like the tunnels though Venom to Hard Route Andross, sudden turns that you can crash into, but there's always a sign for it.
>>736101645>looks at Metroid Prime 4I'm fine with Retro not writing a dialogue heavy game.
>>736107247Alain made some cool designs.
>>736047029starfox and especially starfox64 are the only good onesstarfox2 is okthe rest are ass
>>736047029>hopesspace furry game>fearsstarfox 64 part 67
>>736110195Command is a clunkier 2 with bad plot but its biggest hang back are the controls. Assault has shit sections like turret shooter and the ground controls were fuckin weird but it was okay. Adventures is a bad Star Fox game and an okay if occasionally irritating Zelda clone. And Zero is just a weaker version of 64 with dumb design ideas on top. Do I count Guard or ignore that? The series doesn't have the stinkers some Nintendo franchises have, but it never really was given a chance to breathe in any interesting ways past 64. People are kinda just pissed at anything that ISN'T 64, except when they literally retread it so hard that it's a worse 64.
My biggest hopes for the classic game:>Starlink commsBasically >>736077645 where the characters are animated models instead of mugshots like >>736078246>On-foot missionsOn-foot was in SF64's Versus mode and seemingly planned for single player. So going on-foot is not impossible, even for a classic game.At least one mission all-range like in Star Fox: Assault, and at least one being on-rails like in Sin & Punishment.Gameplay while on-foot needs to be just as fast-paced as regular Arwing missions. Zip and zoom around like in DOOM Eternal.Pic rel from SAROS is what boss encounters could look like. Bullet hell, but in a third-person shooter.>Variety of multiplayer modesDO NOT just copy-paste SF643D's multiplayer, where you get a random character and there is only one mode.Take a page out of Splatoon's book and have a couple of different modes. Including a co-op mode.8-man free-for-all, 4v4 team deathmatch, and 4v4 fleet battles with bots and mission objectives.And make it character-based. Give us a variety of characters to choose from, each with their own abilities and even skill trees.>Play as different characters in single-playerIf the entire Star Fox team is together for missions, then let me play as them!Either give each character their own perspective on a mission, or just have them trade places with Fox.Introduce unlockable characters as well. Unlock Bill and Katt by helping them out on missions. Unlock Star Wolf in post-game.>KrystalLike with Bill and Katt, have Krystal make an appearance during a mission on Sauria. Have her help the player out, but otherwise be a suspicious character we do not really know yet. Save that for the next game.And of course have her playable in multiplayer.
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>>736047029What is the hardware gimmick? The (good) Star Fox games have always been about showing off new hardware.Star Fox: Super FX Chip64: The rumble packCommand: The touch screen64 3D: The 3D screenZero: Wii U game padWhat would it do with the Switch 2? A mouse control gimmick?
>>736047029Let me use the Switch 2 Joy-Con mouse to pet Fay Spaniel.
A good game destroyed by a gimmick control scheme
>>736113480Graphics that aren't stuck in 2007
>>736113480JoyCon mouse controls will likely be a thing.But part of me thinks, if they're really going all-in with Star Fox, maybe the gimmick is that there IS no gimmick? Like they are just out to make Star Fox an IP that stands on its own again instead of just being a testbed.
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>>736047029There will never be another good Star Fox because they will always over correct on making games accessible when it comes to difficulty. 64 was actually kind of hard for kids, especially when it came to accessing the hard routes and pulling off those weird shortcuts
I was never super into star fox but I recently played my first ace combat game with ace combat 7 and if it was at all like that I would love it.
Please just give me Freelancer but star fox.
>>736117539Try Zero next, you'll love it
>>736118293Hell, just give me Freelancer.
>>736118362you mean ace combat zero or star fox zero?
Seeing the movie tomorrow bros, looking forward to it!
me and the boys on our way to boo at fox in the theater
I know you’re not supposed to judge a book by its cover but why the fuck would James and Peppy work with this guy, dude’s been oozing dirty bastard energy from day 1
>>736121815pigma is probably a charismatic fat bastard.Like yeah they know hes in it for the money but he was likable and skilled enough
>>736071118Man I hope EH doesn't get nintendo ninja'd. The Talan incident looks sick and the game in general is fun.
>>736121815There's all kinds of crazy lore about Pigma in the Jap supplementary material for 64; he used to work as a scientist under Andross, he helped design the Wolfen with Andross, and he's responsible for the creation of Star Wolf by way of manipulating Wolf into developing a grudge against Fox. He's even the one who came up with the Star Fox team logo.Zero retconned it so that he was never actually part of their team, instead just Andross' plant in the army who volunteered specifically for the Venom mission in order to fuck them over, which I have to say honestly makes more sense; if he was such a huge part of their life, Peppy and Fox would have to feel a lot more animosity for the guy for all those wasted years rather than just treating him like some mild nuisance, and would probably consider him their real arch-enemy. I sure as hell can't picture them continuing to use his logo design.
When is the next A Fox in Space episode?
>>736079160>>736118825>>736118293FREELANCER BROSI think I pitched this years ago here but because I'm an insignificant louse with no power it never went anywhere: Star Wolf Freelancer where you can pirate vessels and raid planets between shipping illegal weapons would be absolute kino. Funny enough the closest we ever got to a REALLY GOOD Starfox game that incorporated mechanics that most Space Sims have is Starlink. That game that came with a toy ship you could mix and match parts on that had a Star Fox DLC
>>736125037What the fuck why? that's great lore, especially from the fat pig who just seems to be in it for money.>>736122186>>736121815It's true, people still like him to this day despite the fact he was always the most spiteful member who's only communication with fox was "HAHAHA I KILLED YOUR FATHER AND HE SCREAMED"
>>736047029>Miyamoto: i remade star fokusu 64 again and this time you use your spread asshole to do barrel roll lolol *raughs*
>>736126021>buy the amiibo which lets you use the star fart
>>736126021>game comes with a special flightstick made to be inserted into your ass
>>736125331> 2016 was first episode> 2023 was episode 2 only 3~4 more years!!!!
>>736125827his assault voice was pretty great shame about the...ok-tier design.He looks so much better with a black patch instead of that ugly knockoff saiyan power scouter
>>736124064Dude's been a little too flagrant about advertising it imo, somebody at NOA has to have noticed by now. In that case it almost seems like they've been intentionally turning a blind eye, kinda like how they at least allowed AM2R to see the light of day and spread on the internet before bringing down the hammer. Star Fox also being a C tier franchise which doesn't sell well is probably the only thing which has helped it avoid their ire, but if Ninty really is going to be releasing official titles it's probably fucked.I guess you can never tell, though. As jewey as they are, they can also be weirdly choosy about which stuff they go after. Pokemon Uranium got DMCA'd years ago, but you can still download that shit off the front page of google, and afaik they've never gone after the thousands of Pokehacks and fangames continuously released since then. They've never gone after that fan Zelda maker engine, even though iirc it comes prepackaged with a recreation of Zelda 1.
>>736126294>Miyamoto: allow me to demonstrate
>>736127097I think Project Sigma being a fallback is what's making him more confident, and the fact that he finished both the Lylat Wars and Sauria campaigns, level wise, but I just want to see the full vision. Maybe it being in the freespace engine is somehow saving him, like they feel like realistically most people won't go out of their way to download knossos so it's whatever. Who knows, I just want more.
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>>736072054whether it would work in terms of gameplay matters more than whether they would work irl
>>736125331We should be getting an 11 minute prologue this year
>>736127939I'll take what I can get.
>>736047029Hopes and dreams?>Levels that have a mix of on-rail sections that transition to all-range sections and end in a level boss, kind of like StarWars Battle for Naboo and X-Wing Commander>Some objective based levels like "protect the houses from bombers">Ship parts that change things like lasers, bombs, charge shot, boosting/breaking, ect>More characters than just Slippy, Falco and Peppy>Being able to choose which characters go into a mission, changing things like dialogue and opening alternative paths and bosses>More underwater levels>Tow cable weapon that allows you to drag enemy units in all-rage sections, performing a somersault will fling them into walls and other enemies>Enemy units killed using this method starts a X2, multiplier bonus that can be maintained>Multiple medals for different achievements, like Score, Speed, No damage and Perfect (All 3)>Unlockable side story campaigns for the other characters>Some SF Assault arena levels that utilize multiple vehicles, and on-foot combat.>Each planet has multiple missions that need to be completed to fully liberate that world>Some lite resource management, like money earned from downed ships that can be used for various things, like repairing the Great Fox, or constructing armaments/warp gates for each planet>Star Fox 2 Overworld Management>Side quests, like races, score attack, Lex Wins rings, ect>Online modes like PvP, Capture the Flag, Area Control, Aparoid Swarm Survival, ect>Kid Icarus style unlockable at the end of each playthrough>>736047440Star Fox suffers from being too simple. People nowadays need more busywork mechanics to make the gameplay feel more fulfilling, which creates immersion. This can be done without butchering the original spirit of the game.
>>736047029they should stick with the starfox 64 formula instead of adding all this gay shit to it over the years. they could make a side game mode that's like star fox 2
